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Episode 6: The New Player Problem
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A long time ago… in a windy city, far, far away… Your hosts Nick, Manny and Andrew take a dive into the new player problem. How do we introduce and retain new players in X-Wing? Why is it a lot harder than we might think?
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Transcript
Introduction: Meet the Hosts
00:00:02
Speaker
You are listening to the 312 Squadron podcast. My name is Nick Sperry. I'm Manny. And I'm Andrew.
Main Topics: Barriers to Entry & Rebel Y-Wing
00:00:11
Speaker
Well, guys, we got plenty to talk about this week. We're going to talk about a big topic, barriers to entry for new players and just the new player experience at large, which will be a bit of a short series coming up here with the podcast. We're going to talk about the Rebel Y-Wing kind of soft spot for all of our hearts, especially those original trilogy fans and much more.
Personal Stories: Halloween Adventures
00:00:31
Speaker
But first, Halloween just happened. When this episode comes out, we'll have been a couple of weeks removed from spooky time, but we were just talking about and reminiscing about our fond Halloween memories. Andrew, how was your Halloween? What'd you do? Yeah, had a really fun Halloween. My cousin actually threw a murder mystery party, which was a lot of fun. Wow.
00:00:54
Speaker
Yeah. One, I think it was a great idea just because Zoe and I were meeting her friends for the first time. It's a great way for a lot of people if they don't know each other to really feel comfortable just hanging out and talking because you're in character in the beginning when you're meeting people. So when the murder mystery is done, it's really easy to just talk to everybody and meet everybody.
00:01:17
Speaker
The murder mystery itself was a blast. I thought I knew, figured out who the the murder was like through the whole thing. And then it threw a wacky curveball at the end that I did not see coming. It's the way it has to be. It's like directed by Ryan Johnson. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's like exactly a movie for him. It's called Last Onion. Yeah. What's the next one going to be called Titanium Turnip?
00:01:41
Speaker
That sounds awesome. That's going to be the third installment of the Knives Out series. It's awesome. Titanium turnip sounds like if you ever follow an Instagram like whenever like Chinese like whenever they like translate something into English and it's just not quite right.
00:02:04
Speaker
I could see going to like a Shanghai grocery store and seeing like titanium turnips on sale. Yeah, plenty of titanium turnips. Speaking of turning up, Manny and I went out. What a transition. Wait, I have to give you credit to that transition. Usually, I want to crap on you for this, but that was actually great.
00:02:28
Speaker
Well, I don't think I can, I can't, I've peaked. I don't know if I shouldn't even talk anymore. It's all down here from here, folks. Just like, don't listen to those podcasts ever again. It's all downhill. Yeah. And people just use that out of context, but well, they said not to listen to it anymore, so I stopped.
00:02:44
Speaker
Yeah, well, we many many nine a few of our friends dressed up and went out about the town in Andersonville, which is a close to where Manny and I live, kind of the northern part of the city, a nice little province of Chicago. I was Oppenheimer. I dressed up as Oppenheimer. And I thought honestly, I thought I pulled it off. I looked like Al Capone, though, going into work the other day yesterday for Halloween, like wearing that costume with the gloves is really cold.
00:03:13
Speaker
Yeah like the people just like like understand your costume or did they have to ask you most people I mean there is a couple people that asked sometimes I get annoyed when people like have like really did really bad guesses like really dumb I'm like what are you talking about you got there was one I there was somebody at stab chat that asked me
00:03:36
Speaker
What I like if I was from I don't remember I'll have to it's hard to I'm trying to think about what she said but I was just like I'm like no that's not it at all.
00:03:46
Speaker
I feel like Oppenheimer is a costume where you need the gloves to and that and the cigarette really pull it off. You got to have the hat. You have to have the hat. I have the hat. I didn't have the fake cigarette, but I did have the button, the K6 button from Manhattan Project. But people who see the movie would understand it if you hadn't seen it. I think that's right. The people who hadn't seen the movie probably wouldn't get it.
00:04:06
Speaker
But I feel like if like just by commercials and stuff, you should probably have some idea, right? But it just didn't reach the mainstream to the level of Barbie. So a lot more people dressed up as Barbie, which is, you know, was not surprising.
00:04:21
Speaker
Yeah, no, because we saw like what two cans, including the one that we had, including Mark. Yeah, exactly. Manny was spot was Spider-Man. What version of Spider-Man though? Spider-Man 2099, a Miguel O'Hara. I just basically looked for a kid, called him a anomaly and told him that his father has to die because it was a canon event.
00:04:44
Speaker
He just found a kid and told him his father has to die. So to complete the costume, yeah. I'm not sure how I see that, but... I don't know if you visualize that, but... Yeah, everybody at home. There you go. Yeah, it's kind of spoilers if you haven't seen the film, so I'm sorry. But I highly recommend it. Race periods over. Race periods over. Yeah, it's like, what, three or four months old?
00:05:08
Speaker
Yeah, at least. Yeah. But yeah, it was it was a great time. Halloween was great. I appreciate everybody. I posted in the Discord the other day about, you know, show me your Halloween costumes. We got some amazing pictures. So I appreciate you all and part of our community showing those off. I thought you all looked awesome. Yeah, that's great.
00:05:28
Speaker
Yeah, that was fun. And we look forward to the holidays continuing on is, you know, pretty soon we'll have our turkey trot store chimp right before Thanksgiving. And then, of course, we'll have December rolling up with Hanukkah and Christmas and Kwanzaa and all that good stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Twenty four. It's there already. Yeah. I'm seriously. Absolutely. No. Well, I went as a pirate.
00:05:51
Speaker
Uh, since I still have the, the eye patch from the, from the Bell's policy, I don't have to wear it anymore, but as like, since I had it, we, Zoe and I already planned pirates. Yeah. Is there. So that was a lot of fun.
00:06:04
Speaker
Oh, great. I have to shout out Ian, Andrew Ian, the writer at our at our company used to work for those of you that don't know. Andrew used to work for the company work for now. So I say our company, his former company, my current company. Anyways, he dressed up as Dr. Strangelove and it was absolutely amazing. And he even had the glove on and he was like choking himself with the cigarette the other hand and the glasses down. It was just phenomenal. Yeah, those glasses are hard to find to really appreciate it glasses.
00:06:32
Speaker
If you haven't seen Dr. Strangelove, that's another costume. I think you'd have to see the movie. Well worth it, though. One of my favorite Stanley Kubrick films. Yeah. Oh, it's so funny. So funny. Peter Sellers. All right. Anything else about any? Actually, you know, I'm going to ask one quick question. Are you guys are you? Are you a big, big turkey fan for Thanksgiving or is there something you know that's going?
Thanksgiving Food Preferences
00:06:55
Speaker
I'm actually pretty different growing up in a
00:07:00
Speaker
In a Mexican family, turkey was not really a thing for Thanksgiving. It was usually like other dishes. But yeah, I'm pretty indifferent, but it's not the greatest thing in the world. I go for something else. I love turkey. I love dark meat on any form of like of any like chicken. I'd rather have the dark meat. Turkey is one of those things where like I love the dark meat of the turkey. Like I'll take the legs and thighs like all day. Yeah, unfortunately, that's like 10 percent of the bird.
00:07:30
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, that's true. I don't mind even like the white meat though for sandwiches, like afterwards, but if I'm just having turkey, man, I really love turkey. Big fan of Thanksgiving foods. My favorite though of all the fowl would be duck. And so that's always good, but yeah, no big fan of turkey.
00:07:51
Speaker
Yeah, I'm curious. You all should let us know if you have any hot takes about Thanksgiving foods. I always love these conversations. For me, it's like I have to equate Turkey to like when somebody like in college is like, man, you got to listen to the song when you're tripping on acid, you know, like I'm like, OK, well.
00:08:09
Speaker
It's like the acid is not really that good. So it's like if there's a song really that good, if you need to slather it with cranberry sauce and gravy and all the other good fixings that I love, they're great. Delicious. Is it really that good? So that's really my thoughts on Turkey. I would rather have ham or something else. But I get why some of you do like it in the dark meat part of Turkey is good. But unfortunately, a lot of it isn't the dark meat, especially when you carve into it and you had a big group of people eating the bird.
00:08:36
Speaker
though. Yeah, I just appreciate that conversation with you. It's everyone's fighting over the dark meat and I mean, I mean, I think everybody would rather have that or most people would. My issue, Andrew, is that like most of the turkeys, it's just it's just really dry and flavorless. And that's why people love to pour gravy all over it. Like you get into the white meat, if you're like you bake a sandwich with it, I'm like, great. But let's let's say you can't do any of that.
00:09:01
Speaker
Like, I would rather have something else. It sounds like you just haven't had a well-cooked turkey. I hate when people say that. That dries me. I bet so. Oh, my God. That is like, that is literally like I could put a trillion dollars on that. It's not supposed to be dry. Where are you getting all these dry turkeys? It inherently is dry. It is. It's a very, very, very big thing to cook. It's just naturally going to be drier as you get into it further.
00:09:24
Speaker
Oh, they I've had every part of my family. They all cook. My dad is a owned a bakery. He loves to cook. He loves Turkey. I've had so many different people prepare it and brine it and, you know, everything. And I give them credit because it's it's hard. It's a laborious process. And yeah, I just still don't appreciate it as much, which makes me feel bad because they worked really hard. But I just don't like it. Just I guess that's just what it comes down to. That's fair. I mean, the great thing about Thanksgiving is there's usually just a ton of other casseroles and other dishes around other things that I feel like.
00:09:54
Speaker
Thanksgiving is always like a greatest hits album of like fall food. Okay, well speaking of we're talking about X-wing usually but we got time to do that. Favorite side. If I'm putting together a 20-point list for Thanksgiving.
00:10:11
Speaker
That's amazing. That was potatoes. Six points at least. I'm right. You that's that's your six. Your six point ship is I just made it. You just made it six. It's doing the heavy lifting, right? It's like your seven point six point main or side is going to be doing the heavy lifting in your list on your plate. So I'm putting together a 20 point plate. You know, I'm going to go with that. That turkey thigh is
00:10:37
Speaker
That's going to be my my main. I want that as like my my six point ship. I am going to go for my aunt makes a really good green bean casserole. I'm going to put two points on that is my really doing this. This is quite a bit like it. I'm going to put four points into these yam like like you're at 13. They're they're yam.
00:11:04
Speaker
like muffins that you can make, which is great. But I feel like you can switch that out with a sweet potato casserole as well. So you can go either one on that. And let's see. What are...
00:11:24
Speaker
And then mashed potatoes, I think it's just good around all around four point of, you know, ship. It can carry objectives. It's a good objective carrier. Yes. If your objective is you're bloated, it plays the field. You know, you can it's maneuverable. It can it can work both sides of the objectives. Yeah. I mean, the most beautiful thing about Thanksgiving is that we're we all have we all get to share in the IBS together. Right. We're all bloated and feeling a little gross at the end after we've eaten all that food.
00:11:49
Speaker
Ooh, also, you know, big fan appetizers. I think everybody has like a different like appetizer starter course. And I'm going to put the rest of my points in there. Usually some cheese plates, usually some, you know, while everyone's charcuterie. Yeah, charcuterie. Everyone's getting around like they're they're not. And I'm going to say that that's going to carry it because like it's part of the the pre meal, but I think it still counts.
00:12:08
Speaker
That's pretty good. Manny, what are some other shout outs besides mashed potatoes? You shouted that out very well. Like mashed potatoes is the best. It's like the best one. It carries, like it carries almost all of them. It's giving like for me. But, uh, man. Yeah. But, but, uh,
00:12:26
Speaker
Pumpkin pie. That's pretty good as well. My favorite actually. Yeah, pumpkin pie. Time to give that 10 points, a mashed potatoes, 10 points. They're 20. Boom. Yeah. You have to think too hard, right? Yeah. Double fire spray there. Yeah. And for those of you at home who don't want to worry about sourcing all the ingredients, you could buy a standardized list of, uh, of upgrades slash sides and all your Thanksgiving meal. You go to your grocery store, you could buy it all. What would be like the standardized?
00:12:56
Speaker
Like gravy is the loadout points, right? Like, you know, potatoes, like the, the, the loadout pull value is going to be like, do you like extra garlic? I like a garlicky mashed potato with chives in it too. I must say, I must say hearing in my talent slots.
00:13:10
Speaker
I would probably go for the budget. I would go with ham at five points. I'm a ham guy. I'd go ham at five. And then I would do Brussels sprouts for three. And it's eight. I would do four points for mac and cheese. That's 12. And then I would probably what? Yeah. Is mac and cheese like a Thanksgiving food?
00:13:30
Speaker
It can be. Oh, absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. I love stuffing. I don't know if I put stuffing on my list, but I do honorable mention, but I'm a big scalloped potatoes guy. I love my like baked in the oven. You can even put a little cheese on top. Made it out. Gratin. So that's where I put the rest of my points. But I think we're all we would all enjoy each other's food.
00:13:51
Speaker
Yeah. Is what it's coming down to here. So there's no there's no like red hot takes with like alarm me about you guys where I would need to call the FBI or anything which is good. What would that be? It would have to be like a really nasty casserole or something probably.
00:14:09
Speaker
If you were like, uh, like, I don't know. I, I think the thought of like having a tuna casserole for Thanksgiving would, would frighten me, but straight to the game. Actually, how an American more than anything. So that would actually be okay. Thanksgiving sounds like a you problem, Nick.
00:14:29
Speaker
No, no, no, I know I was now recording from the Gulag. I'm definitely alone on a lot of what I eat on Seafood Island. I mean, when I say I love seafood, I love almost all of it. Yeah. So if you're a fish out there and Andrew gives you that side eye, you better better walk fast. Yeah, seriously. No. Yeah. They're a fun fact, everybody. Andrew. Andrew is banned from the shed aquarium because he brought his table set with him and he tried to dine in.
00:14:59
Speaker
Yes. Yeah. And he eats tuna that's not dolphin safe. What a monster. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I can't believe I've been pressing one of that long. You can't just accuse me of an international crime. Yes, we can. That's what we do here. That's what we do here now.
00:15:17
Speaker
Absolutely not. This is never a dolphin. I never want to eat a dolphin. Look, if you're in the ocean and you're a mammal, you're safe. You're fine. I'm not eating mammalian sea life. If you are not endangered and you are a fish that I can sustainably eat, yeah, you're in trouble. For the 3% of podcast listeners who are underwater in the ocean, you can breathe a sigh of relief.
00:15:47
Speaker
for all the dolphins that are listening. We're all our dolphin listeners out there. Yep. Oh, that's amazing. Oh, that was so good. I love that bed with counting up the points for your food, for Thanksgiving, international crime, being accused of committing. I love it. It's great. Yeah. So a lot of, a lot of spice. Yeah. So I mean, what a better segue than to talk about some X swing about break it or buy it.
00:16:12
Speaker
I would say get in the chat or find us on Discord and let us know how you would build out a 20-point plate. For Thanksgiving, how are you planning on loading out your 20-point dinner plate?
00:16:29
Speaker
All right. It's it's I think it's time for now. I think what's now we have to call our second favorite segment after whatever that just was because that was amazing. X-Wing break it or buy it. We're going to talk about the Y-Wing, the rebel Y-Wing. I thought about maybe doing scum or a public. But here's the thing about the Scum or Republic Y-Wings.
00:16:48
Speaker
They're actually getting a little bit of play right now. Sure, it's only a couple of pilots, but they're they are more budget friendly in terms of putting in a list right now that I would say most of the Rebel Y-Wings, although there are some cheaper options that we might mention. I highlighted three pilots. I've highlighted Dutch Vander, Nora Wexley and Horton Salm.
00:17:10
Speaker
The only man I have here in a while. Yeah. Yeah. Horton here's a who. The only pilot that in the Rebel Y-Wing pilot, I think that you might see in lists as whole Oaken at three points standardized with an APT at I-4 and double-bodied opportunity is why whole Oaken is sometimes in Rebel lists. But everybody else, especially the ones we mentioned, kind of fallen out of favor for a while now.
00:17:36
Speaker
So does anybody have a anybody want to start us off? Sure. Well, yeah, I can. I can start us off. But man, I just want to say for an iconic ship, it's something that I you kind of want to see in rebel lists like it just feels good to fly why wing. It feels good flying. I think when anybody brings a why wing, it's kind of exciting, right? Like that's cool. It's iconic. Yeah. And I do want to preface what Break It or Buy It is for people who do not know.
'Break It or Buy It' Segment Introduction
00:18:02
Speaker
Yeah. Skip that part.
00:18:04
Speaker
So break it or buy it, we take a chassis, we pick a few pilots and we ask, would you break it or would you buy it? If you were to break it, you would change the loadout or or something about the ability like you would do an errata. Fundamentally change the pilot.
00:18:20
Speaker
And what they can load out with slots everything like that or you could buy it and you could buy it at the same price Or you could buy it at a cheaper price So usually we opt to not buy at the same price and not change anything because why would we be talking about it? But it is an option So who wants to do Dutch?
00:18:39
Speaker
Yeah, I can, I can get us started with
X-Wing Gameplay: Dutch Vander's Role
00:18:41
Speaker
Dutch. Dutch is a, a Y-wing pilot that I feel like we saw quite a bit of in 2.0 and also at the start of 2.5 Dutch, I felt like I saw Dutch in a lot of lists. It has a great pilot ability. I think Dutch is probably one of the most played Y-wings that I've seen on the field. Now you really don't see it anywhere else. And.
00:19:05
Speaker
We're just going to get into that. The Y-Wing is after you perform the target lock action, you may choose one friendly ship at range one to three, and that ship may acquire a lock on the object you locked, ignoring range restrictions. So this is a key piece in setting up those double modded shots where you can go in, take a target lock, and it's at I4.
00:19:30
Speaker
So it's a great way for those lower initiative ships to get those double locks or for the higher ones as well. Cause you can lock it. And even if like Luke hasn't moved yet, or even if, you know, Han hasn't moved yet, you get that target lock, then they can move into range and choose something else.
00:19:48
Speaker
And then they can get into better firing position by boosting barrel rolling, things like that. So Dutch just gives you so many options. And target locks, double-modded shots is definitely the name of the game. As many as you can get these days is what will give you the best chance to win, I would say. I'm going to just throw in and quickly interrupt, just throw in the stat line for the Y-Wing and the dial. So the Y-Wing has a native two attack dice primary front arc attack,
00:20:14
Speaker
one agility, it has six hole and two shield and its actions. It has a focus, a target lock, a red barrel and a red reload.
00:20:26
Speaker
And then the dial, it's one banks are blue as well as the one straight. We also have the two hearts are white, two banks white, two straight is blue. Then you have three hearts that are red, three banks that are white, three straight that is white. And lastly, a four straight that is red and a four K. Sorry, Andrew, keep going. Yeah, no, no worries. So it's really hard to get stressed for any reason, hard to recover that with those blue maneuvers.
00:20:56
Speaker
And also, it's got the six hull, two shield. It only rules one evade die. So it crits matter a lot on the Y-wing and hard for a ton. Ions. Yep. To roll out of trouble can be ionized. So Dutch is starting off at four points, which is where we see a lot of the meat and potatoes of lists these days. But it's an I-4. So there's...
00:21:24
Speaker
While we're kind of in a meta where you can start getting i5s at four points, having a four point, like i4, it's fallen behind a little bit there, it has 12 loadout points.
00:21:37
Speaker
And that's pretty light. Doesn't leave you with a lot of options as far as torpedoes go because, you know, Dutch is relying on that target lock. So heavily, you basically have just enough points to put on proton torpedoes and nothing else.
00:21:55
Speaker
because Dutch doesn't want to dive in, I feel like, and doesn't want to get in the mix too often. And those advanced proton torpedoes maybe aren't doing enough heavy lifting for you. It's only got one talent slot. But it can take bombs, but I would... Because the ability is so good on Dutch,
00:22:22
Speaker
It's tough. It's not the easiest thing. Yeah. I would say if we were like I could see keeping the load out as it is and going down to three points. Sure. I think Dutch becomes so I'm going to I'm going to buy Dutch at three.
00:22:45
Speaker
OK, just because that ability is so powerful, something that's worth mentioning to you. You touched on it briefly with a lot more high and a couple of two things. What with high initiatives is that Dutch has to then go. He has to overextend himself to actually be able to get those locks to use his ability a lot more often right now, just in the current scope of the meta.
00:23:05
Speaker
The other thing is the rebels like three point five point seven point options right now. The only good viable four point option that we see is Boudica comparison in Boudica, of course, is a thing. So just a lot more difficult to kill versus a Y wing at the same initiative, same price. Yeah. So those are the two things I wanted to throw out there. Yeah, that's fair because you're comparing this to. Yeah, to a Boudica and I for
00:23:35
Speaker
I feel like at three points, this is where that becomes interesting where you might want to shift around your list, even if you're using things like Bodega or it might enable, you know, those strategies. Like even if you keep Han is seven points and then you can add Dutch.
00:23:52
Speaker
It gives you a little more options with that final 10 points on how you want to fill it out. And I think Dutch becomes a lot more interesting at three. The loadout is fine. And, you know, I think it's totally okay if you're just like, Hey, uh, Dutch, and if I get off, I'll take the proton torpedoes or advanced proton torpedoes. They had the regular ones. If I get one of those off, it's great. Um, I feel like that that's a good value and it gets to be a piece where Dutch can really play that support role without feeling like.
00:24:21
Speaker
I it's these only support role right now, right? Right. Yeah. And I think that's what it's designed to be. I don't think, you know, Dutch isn't I don't think designed to be the star of the show. No, that's a great deal with a pro tour. A single model pro tour. So it just feels like four points. It's there. Oh, yeah. Toss up. Yeah.
00:24:39
Speaker
Yeah. And no, but I think at three points, that's when that's when this becomes a key piece where you can really sit on that ability. Yeah. Yeah. I agree. You can build around it and even, you know, it might give you the other options. I'm trying to think of like Han is just so good right now.
00:25:00
Speaker
probably don't want to remove Han from any list. But I think there might be a build that doesn't rely on Han that could have Dutch in it. I think with the segment, it's important for people, especially listening to know that this is kind of in a vacuum when we're talking about this. It's easy to be like, oh, if you do that, then the whole landscape of things change for the faction.
00:25:22
Speaker
I mean, in some ways we do make decisions on like if we break her by based on what defection needs. But in other cases, it's also just based on the chassis and the fact that it doesn't really get any play. Yeah, it's like, you know, it's designed just to make it playable. And I think just judge's ability, even at the current Lotus 12, I think is fine. And if it's at three points, I think it becomes interesting and becomes a ship that I'm actively looking at putting in lists. Yeah.
00:25:47
Speaker
So that's a small question, though, a three point. I believe you could put our three on him. Yeah. So what a three point why we need to give two ships all mods. It's just the first the first target lock. So the action triggers the ability once. And then the second lock is just his law. Oh, OK. All right. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, and also, I mean, you don't have to never mind.
00:26:13
Speaker
Yeah, but it's always good having two locks. I think that there's definitely a build with that. I think 12 points is totally fine to load out because you can go the R3 Astromech. You can take plasma torpedoes. That gives you enough for a payload upgrade or you can also put on.
00:26:29
Speaker
a dorsal turret just to give yourself some, you know, a little extra protection there. Yeah, just a little more coverage, throw on an expert handling and, you know, maybe you're not going to be burrowing too much, but you never know. There's other stuff you can do with that. Is he able to take chaff missiles? Yes, absolutely. Throw on some electric chaff missiles.
00:26:54
Speaker
Yeah, I think I mean, I like the idea of if if you were to keep them at four at four points, then I would I would say, you know, giving a four or five more loadout would seem pretty reasonable as well. You know, I think you could go with three points and keep the load out or you would give him enough so they could take a pro tour but an R3 and make himself a little bit better. But then he is now single modded.
00:27:16
Speaker
Unless you have like Aaron Kraken or you're building a list around him having double modded protorps. He's really just a support piece that can threaten but won't do too much otherwise. Yeah. Yeah. Especially at at I for.
00:27:29
Speaker
Yeah, and and four points, though, because it's a ship your problem. You could lose really quickly. And I mean, it's so easy to ionize. That's the problem, too. Ion tech is really good right now, too. Right. And in, you know, with Vader, with his ion missiles, you take ion torps or anything like that. We saw it in, I think, top four at Worlds, where it was a there was a Dutch list. You set up all the shots. You set up everything you needed.
00:27:56
Speaker
But then Gaelic just fired an ion cannon and not like destroyed everything like all. Everything's hard to fall apart. And that and that knocks off the target lock. Yeah. And it shuts off his ability. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, absolutely. Manny, which one do you want to take the we have Horton or Nora? I'll take a Norwex Lee. Yeah, I'll take her. You don't mind reading her and her ability.
00:28:19
Speaker
Yeah, so Nora Wexley, her ability is whether you defend if there's an enemy ship at range 0 to 1, add a 1 evade result to your dice result. So you basically have a evade every turn if you're in range 1.
00:28:35
Speaker
And yeah, I five with worth five points. Yeah. Yeah. Is that 18 loadout? Yep. Eighteen loadouts. This is a tough one, man. Five. Yeah. I believe a list did pretty well with her, right? Recently, am I crazy or the arc 170 version of Nora, I believe is five as well.
Pilot Abilities: Nora Wexley & Horton Salm
00:28:57
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Yeah. So, yeah, I think it might have been arc 170 Nora. Oh, OK. All right. Well,
00:29:04
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Having 25% of your opponent's win condition on a Y-wing sounds not great, to be honest. Sounds like you're throwing the game. Yeah, a little bit. I mean... The mob's gotten to you. Yeah. Like, she's got a range one, but also you... Wait, you didn't stop where you want to be with a Y-wing! Exactly, yeah. It's a bit counterintuitive. I mean, in 2.0, I kind of like flying her.
00:29:32
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But I'm 2.5. Yeah. I mean, this counts as if she's, this counts as she's past somebody of like, she's over flown past somebody you're right next to whatever. Like there are situations where she can use her ability getting shot up by someone else. And she's like happens to be at range one. Yeah.
00:29:50
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They kind of want to take Waiwing to be a support role. I don't know where she really fits as a support ship. I mean, in terms of loadouts. So would you break it or buy it? 18 loadout, 5 points. I would buy her at 4.
00:30:07
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Yeah. Yeah. At 18 lowdown, that seems pretty, pretty, pretty aggressive, but in a good way. Yeah, I think no torpedo slot, though. There's no torpedo slot. Oh, the people use on her to like break in by all those.
00:30:24
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And that's that's pretty silly. I mean, it's like, OK, Nora here. Take take an ion cannon turret. It's insane. Yeah, this is a ship that you really want to advance proton torpedoes on or just a torpedo. Ion dorbs plasma is broken over.
00:30:40
Speaker
Gunner slot. Am I reading that correctly? Yeah. Yeah. No. OK. Yeah, she's got a gunner slide. So you could do like Iron Cannon turret veteran turret gunner. That's against you at eight points of loadout. And then you could do like proton bombs and then you could give her our three astromech and then you have like two points left over. So you could be like, cool, I'll take.
00:31:02
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Marksmanship or something. I don't I mean expert handling boom. You're at 18. That is that is not a very sexy loadout No, yeah, like oh a torpedo slot really hurts her like yeah going for five points is a bit too much Yeah, cuz you would rather take at the same price. You take arc one loop or all day Yeah, if you had to pick another Nora the other of the two options total
00:31:27
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Yeah, I think I think we all agree on Nora for sure. But yeah, it's I mean, I think it might be both a break and a buy.
00:31:34
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Yeah. Yeah, I agree. Rounding out break it or buy it, we've got Orton Psalm. I love that name. It's just such a great Star Wars name. Orton's three points has seven loadout and is an eye for his ability reads like perform an attack. You may reroll one attack life for each other friendly ship at range zero to one of the defender. So it's kind of similar to Lieutenant Blount. It's the same trigger as Lieutenant Blount's ability, except instead of getting an additional attack that you get to reroll.
00:32:02
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a number of die for each friendly ship range zero to one. So it's actually a bit better than blounce in terms of how many opportunities. So interesting. I think Horton, if you were to like immediately think about what you could put him, like what types of lists you'd want to build with him, it would be like fang fighters or like a wings, things that like to go fast and plug up people's lanes and be aggressive because then he could he could use his ability for his he can use it for any type of attack, special attacks, turn attacks, primaries, whatever you name it, you can use it.
00:32:32
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Seven loadout, though, at three point seven loadout isn't atrocious, but for a platform that really kind of needs compensation for its chassis, it's still too low. So I would I would actually I would buy him a three, but I would actually break his load out. So there's a little bit of breaking by again.
00:32:51
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And I would let me just compare. I'm going to go over to Holokens standardized car really quick and just kind of read the upgrades again and see what roughly that load out comes out to be. APT is eight points. Dorsal would make it ten. Precise Astromech is hard to put a price on that. But honestly, I would make precise Astromech is worth at least six or seven points because it allows you to get double modded shots.
00:33:13
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So that's I would just round up to 18 points of loadout. So I would give Horton 12 or 13 allows him at three points. You could be a torque carrier, which there aren't a lot of pro-torque carriers and rebels besides Luke right now. So that's not really a huge deal. You could take missiles with him. That would be.
00:33:34
Speaker
pretty interesting. You just do concussion missiles and are three astromech. You could put size mix. So, yeah, I'd say 13 loadout. Keep them at three points, but break his loadout. Yeah. Thoughts. I mean, honestly, I'm just I'm thinking I think you can actually make all of these three, three points. Even more. Yeah. I mean, or a tow down. I mean, the thing is, I mean, the thing with with with the like with Nora, too, though, is it's like if Tomax is three points.
00:34:01
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you tone down the loadout on Nora. I think it would also be totally fine. It doesn't freak me out. Yeah, you just need to be mindful of the loadout. Yeah, you can tone that down. But Horton too, I think that's fine at the three points. This one, it has to stay close to everybody else, so this one's getting more benefit from that. It's forcing you to fly a certain way. He doesn't have to be. It's each other friendly ship. It raises your honor to the defender.
00:34:25
Speaker
Oh, of the defender. Oh, OK. Yeah. So no, that's just as long as your buddies over there just hang back. Yeah, I think also totally fine at three points could definitely use like a bump in and bump up and load out if I'm building a list now to. Yeah. Ships like Horton is kind of what I'm looking for for something like this. I would actually another two to add.
00:34:48
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to the the break it part of this. I would actually add a cannon because his ability like getting free rerolls is great, but he's still firing a single modded attacks unless he is a coordinator. So if you could give him like heavy laser cannon or ion cannon or tractor beam, then he can focus and then reroll his attacks with that is ability. I just feel like he'd be more efficient. That just seems kind of fun. Yeah, no. Yeah. And the theory and getting dangerous there.
00:35:14
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Yeah, yeah. Right. I mean, again, with not a ton of life with, you know, twelve load out, he could take it. No, I mean, I think it's that's totally fair. I for it's going to be even with the high initiative, like it's still going to be tough to get those bullseye shots. Yeah. And that also makes him a little less ion proof himself. Like he doesn't have to take locks and then lose his his special attacks automatically when someone looks at him. So, yeah, just food for thought is kind of cool.
00:35:42
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Yeah, so if you guys ever have suggestions of other chassis in the game, it can be extended as well as standard legal or break it or buy
Listener Feedback Invitation
00:35:50
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it. We'd love to hear from you and always drop suggestions in our podcast section of our Discord. Appreciate everyone that has given us feedback and been a part of our community, especially listening to the cast. Very proud of where we've where we've gotten so far. And we all kind of unanimously love this section. This segment is a lot of fun.
00:36:08
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No, yeah, this is one of my favorite sections. And let us know, too, what your builds and loadouts are for ideas for the Y-Wing. What would you do to help put them on the table? But thanks again for listening, too. We definitely wouldn't be doing this without you. Shout out to the Gold Squadron veteran, of course. Gone, but not forgotten. Yes.
00:36:29
Speaker
Oh, wait, I'm sorry. What? The Y-Wing pilot. The generic. The Gold Squad. Oh, OK. All right. So like, I thought you were talking about the podcast that something happened. I was like, wait, what? GSP is doing just great. Yeah.
00:36:45
Speaker
Yeah, it's like another one bites the dust. Oh, no, they're very they're they're good friends. It's actually a great segue because the topic from the audience is from Jason Graham, a member of Gold Squadron podcast of Gold Squadron, him and I
Barriers to Entry in X-Wing: Community & Resources
00:37:00
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are buddies. I met him for the first time at Worlds this earlier this year. Jason, basically, we're moving now into new players, right? Barriers to entry for new players.
00:37:12
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So before we dive into maybe some specific things that our audience has mentioned in Discord about things that they've noticed are barriers for new players. If you guys had to name the biggest one that you think is the biggest barrier for a new player to get into the game of Xing right now, what would it be? Manny, I'll start with you. Oh, pick one. I know.
00:37:35
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So this used to be a pretty big play for me. Since it released the new starter sets, most of my concerns about this have kind of been resolved. But if I had to think of one currently existing, it would be how a person who doesn't know about any of those quad building apps will have to go to the AMG
00:37:57
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yeah websites and just like look at a bunch of pdfs to assemble their squad and it's just like you know not a great time
00:38:07
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No, it's actually going to discourage people from playing. It's not much of a tedious venture that is. Especially if there's a points update. And I don't think AMG highlights what has been changed. Not consistent, or have been achieved with that. Yeah. Yeah. So that's probably my biggest thing. Andrew, what do you think is the biggest thing, biggest barrier to entry?
00:38:34
Speaker
I mean, honestly, I would I would say for most people, I feel it would be finding, you know, somewhere to play, getting ships to the table if you don't live in near like a major city. Mm hmm. Is finding rural areas. Yeah, like like like a play group that regularly meets or one that meets on your schedule, you know, because it's even though lots of places have like X-Wing nights. I feel pretty fortunate. Chicago is a is a great hub for X-Wing. But I know there's a lot of places that, you know, aren't
00:39:04
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aren't as much.
00:39:06
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That's what that would be my guess. Yeah, I I would I would agree. That's a that's a really good one. I would say the it's not definitive, like the product that you see around the core sets. You see a core set that is still for sale. That isn't the course that you should get, but has the faction like has like the factions that you could get still. And it's not clear which course that you should get. There's the newer ones that are more expensive, but maybe you want to save some money. So you're like, I'll get this one instead. And you might think.
00:39:36
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It's a more budget friendly option. It'll get you into the game the same way. Yes and no. And how do you know, how do you, how do you figure that out without like being proactive in researching and Googling and knowing where to start. This is the past, like the thing that, uh, separated 2.0 from, from, uh, the previous one. Was it the color of the box, right? I believe these new boxes are still black. Yeah. Uh, I totally, when I first started playing bought the 1.01.
00:40:03
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not realizing that there was a two point. Yeah, I didn't know either until I asked around and I was told that, hey, if you want to play with the group here in the city, we're all playing this version of the game now. I'm like, oh, OK, I'll have to look that up after I spend hundreds of hundreds of dollars on point of stuff. Yeah, it's brutal. Yeah. Oh, but fond memories. But yes, also brutal back when I was more naive and more willing to throw my money away. I'm still throwing it away, but just. Yes, I want to say.
00:40:33
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Yeah, we run a we run a tight ship, but ships are cheap. And the community, these are the three main things that I pulled from the discord.
00:40:43
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Isn't is and we've had we've already mentioned these but just specifically one of them being engaging with the community As you said like Andrew Do you live near a community hub or a game store that actually supports actually league nights local nights? Is that a thing? Arrata's the second one Arrata's in the squad building. There's no yeah
00:41:03
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AMG has basically without explicitly saying, they endorse and want people to go to yasby and launch bay, they've done that that that is they've given up on an official squad builder, which I think is a bad idea because this there's no alternative that they see, but that make it unclear as to where you build your squads.
00:41:24
Speaker
The solution to that is either you buy one of them or you just give in and give a resources link or something in a PDF or a pamphlet in the core sets so that people can actually play the game that you're trying to get them to buy into.
00:41:39
Speaker
And the third one is if you find realize that there are seven factions and you don't want to play rebels or empire there, we were told that there's a strong possibility that we get all seven factions represented in core sets at some point. Do I actually think that's going to happen now? No, I just don't think that that's going to be a priority, but it would be great. I think that would be the best possible thing for this game is to have all seven represented in core sets. But what if you don't want to play rebels or empire at something to think about like?
00:42:10
Speaker
Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, that's something to think about. I mean, has there been any word on any future? Oh, we would hear all about it and we would be talking about it right now, too, if we did.
Squad Building Challenges for New Players
00:42:21
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We're we're we're we're thirsty for some news. Yeah, for sure. We've been in a drought for a while now, I feel for quite a while since since the Depticon pretty much.
00:42:31
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But yes, that's true. If you don't want to play Rebel or Empire, starting is a lot more difficult for you, for sure. And I think the squad building is probably the biggest thing, the biggest barrier to entry, because it's just the fundamental. You need it to play the game.
00:42:49
Speaker
You can play the game at home with your partner or with your brother or roommate or whatever. It might not be a community, but you can still play the game at home. So engaging with the community is very important, but it's not going to prevent you from trying the game and playing it. If Rebel Empire factions only, again, you can still play the game and get to know it. But squad building can't play the game in any capacity if you don't know how to put together the squad.
00:43:13
Speaker
As Manny said, you go online and you start going through these PDFs. It's going to feel very archaic and very tedious to have to. And you don't even know what you're looking at. You're like, I've never heard of the I don't know what these things do. That was my. You know, I was like, I don't know what these cards are. They good. Are they bad? I don't know. I'm going to try it. I don't know. Yeah. Yeah. I feel a lot of that is is for any game, though, to the learning part. I remember like is something good or bad. Yeah, that's for sure.
00:43:44
Speaker
But it's overwhelming when it's in conjunction with a really poor way to put together your squad, like having to go on a website and look at PDFs, right? Yeah. Oh, sure. There's a way easier way to do that, but it's just currently not
00:44:00
Speaker
So I'm not right. The amount of flack that the official squad builders got there, there were two versions of it. I get it. They were bad. They were buggy. They but they kind of need it like if that they did it out of necessity and it just didn't work out. And when they announced that it was going away for good and it got the kibosh, I think a lot of people kind of rejoiced like I kind of.
00:44:27
Speaker
Sarcastically, but like, no, like, if the alternative is having no idea how to put their squads together, I want an official squad builder, even if it is a little buggy or crashes sometimes. Like, yeah, you know, and this is nothing against Stephen Kim or Andre Lind of Yasbi and launch pay respectively. Like they do amazing work and I do prefer their apps. I prefer their apps over any official anything. We always will always have always have always well. But at the same time, there needs to be something.
00:44:56
Speaker
Yeah, but I mean, boy, boy, what a service to the community. I mean, one, it's a ton of work for them to put that together. That's free labor that AMG gets to have support in their product. And so if they had an official squad builder, I think that would be a huge boon.
00:45:20
Speaker
give some options for players, you know, to write just our code, like download our app, put together your squad and get on the battlefield, you know, the star map today, like something like instead of just opening it up and being like, how do I do this? What is what is going on? I'm confused.
00:45:38
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, so I appreciate the community. There recently a soft post putting together a basically a one stop shop, like, you know, not a one-sheeter, but just a few pages of just like helpful tips and guys resources for getting into the game. I love that. That's good to hear. But at the end of the day, like, yeah, that's not our job. But that's right. Exactly. It should be. The community has done the heavy lifting, the heaviest of lifting and done an exceptional job.
00:46:06
Speaker
Yeah, yes, but it is inherently unfair for for atomic mass games to kind of just be able to be like, well, oh, some communities hard to work. We're not going to legally we don't and we can't really say go, you know, do work with the unofficial stuff for us, but they are piggybacking off of it.
00:46:27
Speaker
Yeah, and I know I know they can't just say hey like use this unofficial stuff But if that's the case like make your own app buy them out Yeah, buy something just like right. Yeah, because like these guys update the app clearly at least 24 hours after
00:46:43
Speaker
after an update happens. It's kind of insane. You got to love the dedication that these guys have. And they're dedicated players. They play for both of these guys playing. They're like Atlas, who's holding that excellent community above their heads. Right. That's a good reference. Because I don't think events would be as big if it wasn't for these two guys. Because it would be such a drag to just create squads.
00:47:06
Speaker
Well, yeah, I mean, there's so much that lives on the XWS platform. And it goes beyond that. It goes to stream overlays. Yasby, again, Yaso, yet another squad overlay, is from Stephen Kim. That's how you watch your X-wing streams. Andrew, when you and I do commentary together, that overlay is another community-created resource. There is no alternative. That's the only thing. And it's perfect. It's so nice and easy to follow and clean.
00:47:34
Speaker
and roll better. We have world's open qualifiers using roll better as the way to facilitate tournaments.
00:47:44
Speaker
So, I mean, it's yeah, it's just worth, there's a micro, we should be putting our microscope on this, because this squad builders are, sorry, the core sets have just rolled out, but only two of them. We want more of those, we want more everything, but this is something that they really need to try to emphasize and figure out. How do we make this less confusing for people who want to give us money and who want to play this game?
00:48:09
Speaker
Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. So, Jason, thank you so much for for dropping that question, that topic. Always appreciate that. Again, we always ask before our next recording, what do you guys want to talk about? What do you want to hear about? And we are going to continue talking about new players. So this is perfect. Appreciate it.
00:48:30
Speaker
Well, I was gonna say, I don't mind just extending this. Oh, I'm not done. I wasn't closing it. I just wanted to thank him again. It's helpful. Go ahead, though. I didn't mean to cut you off. Yeah, no, that was a great question. I was gonna say, Manny, since you're not a new player, but you're the new player. He's a noob. I can't cut myself as a noob. Well, just for all the people.
00:48:56
Speaker
on this podcast, you know, you've only been playing for two or three years now and not even a year and a half to. Yeah. Yeah. Is a year and a half. OK, so yeah, but fairly, you know, newer as well. So what was what was your experience like coming into? Yeah, so I had no idea what the hell I was doing. I so I got an excellent because a game store opened up close to my parents that.
00:49:26
Speaker
sold x-wing stuff and I was just like oh I was born like I've always been interested in this game is there a community here and The community was just a single person Lloyd. He told me everything I knew but if I didn't have Lloyd I probably would not be this deep into the game right now because I because my first question was like well, then how do you build a squad like how do you choose your upgrades and I don't believe the the the
00:49:56
Speaker
manual that came in the 2.0 box said anything about that. So I probably would have had to sub on my way online and, and just find the answers through the community. Yeah. It's everybody needs a Lloyd, right? Yep. Yeah. Yeah. That's for sure. So you did, you had someone that was guiding you in then through the process as well.
00:50:18
Speaker
So, and then what was your experience like, you know, when, when you were coming to Chicago? Cause I remember I, I believe I first met you. Yeah. Yeah. So, um, uh, so since I'm in Andersonville, uh, DICE Jojo is close by, uh, so once their Facebook group,
00:50:40
Speaker
Uh, and, uh, I, I created a post to ask, it was like, Hey, yes, X Wayne still a thing here. And then some random guy just told me to text to reach out to a prick named Nick Sperry. And work goes fast when someone's looking to play X swag, man. Yeah. And then one, and then one, one thing led to another and I'm here, hosted a podcast with X Wayne. So yeah.
00:51:11
Speaker
You had no idea when you were going on to Facebook, being like, oh, this is a fun game that it would then become a cold. Oh, yeah. Like traveling and just like stuff that I do outside of work. Yeah. Yeah. Right. That could, you know, for the listener at home, that could be your story, too. You could be me. You could be me. Oh, man. Like my trajectory was ridiculous. I'm like, oh, I'll just like casually get into this game and then I'm like streaming like out of state for like double two day tournaments.
00:51:37
Speaker
Yeah. Oh no, I didn't think, you know, when I, when I was getting into X-wing and, uh, and met, you know, all of you that like,
00:51:47
Speaker
I thought, oh, I'm going to play this fun tabletop game, not thinking that, oh, I would be meeting some of my best friends in the world and traveling all over the country and like, you know, meeting cool people from like all over, all over the whole country and having just like so many good times. Like this is like one innocuous, like, oh, Barnes and Noble is having a sale. Ex-Wig stuff is going to be this
00:52:12
Speaker
defining the moment in my life, you know, at the time, I know there was a meme where it's a guy that's like trying to line up a bunch of dominoes, but like each domino gets progressively bigger. That's how I like, that's how it feels. Yeah. That's the X-wing iceberg. Yeah. You really see at the top of it. Yeah. Cause I was going to say there's a, I forgot the RPG, but there's a, there's an old, old school RPG. I believe it was plain skate, but don't quote me on that. Um, uh,
00:52:42
Speaker
where there's a quest that you go help a farmer collect 10 apples. And that quest is one of the most crazy, the story that comes out of that is one of the most crazy wild stories in the entire game.
00:52:59
Speaker
Like it's just totally innocuous thing that, but then you go through these series events that you end up going to a different dimension and like all this other crazy stuff. So I felt like X-Wing was one of those gateways for me. There was something to be said about how the type of friendships that are cultivated in this community versus maybe some, not to say that you wouldn't get this in other communities, but I think it's extra special with a loyal.
00:53:23
Speaker
X-wing people are to each other beyond just their X-wing lives. But, you know, personal lives, everything. I mean, Andrew referred me to the job that I have now. So it's just kind of crazy. Like, you never know how you can network, as they say. Like, just like you make some lifelong friends doing sometimes the most silly and random thing or fun things in this case.
00:53:44
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. And I will say the one thing that is not a barrier to entry is the community itself. Like I have never met just like such a warm, welcoming, you know, awesome community to be a part of. But before I close out, Nick, because you were well into X-Wing when I when I met you, when I first started playing X-Wing, I watched Nick being one of the judges at Worlds in Minneapolis, St. Paul.
00:54:10
Speaker
and so i was like oh wow this guy is you know knows everything about it i was always curious what was what was your first experience like getting into the game yeah i it's so funny that one of my old roommates the name is gannon he now works for the baltimore aureals in the analytics department which is pretty cool
00:54:27
Speaker
He for Christmas, he casually bought me the Force Awakens course that he's like, you know, we play board games with each other. He's like, I just looked like funny like Star Wars. So I thought, why not? And then like he's like, dude, I can't. And then like fast forward to be at world is like, dude, I can't believe you fell this hard into this freaking game. I had no freaking idea. Like what have I done?
00:54:46
Speaker
Yeah, it was it was great, man. And I was still pretty new to the game. Like I was probably eight or nine months into X-wing when I judged world. So they know I asked if I could judge some events and he invited me to do worlds. Matt, Matt Holland, shout out. He used to run OP for FFG. He's like, would you want to do world? So I'm like, well, I don't have as much experience. He's like, that's fine. You wouldn't be the head judge. So I knew a lot, but I was still learning a lot. And it was a really, really fast.
00:55:13
Speaker
experience to like enter that world and that community through the scope of a lens of a judge was pretty wild man so when I yeah so when I met you you still weren't even in your full your first year I think by the time we met I was about like I just hit like a year into the game but it was still wow that's I
00:55:32
Speaker
Man, I thought total season long term that. Yeah. Well, that's wow. At least that came out of the way. I guess you look like you knew what you were doing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. I appreciate that. Yeah, it's it's cool. It's definitely nice to reminisce about these things for sure.
00:55:52
Speaker
Yeah. And we're still here. And that's that's the coolest thing. We're doing so much more. We went to Squadron exists born kind of right before Covid and then really grew through the pandemic and then exploded the last year, year and a half. So and we're doing a podcast. Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, I don't see X-Men going anywhere anytime soon. Well, we won't let it anyways. Exactly. That's how stubborn we are. No, no.
00:56:21
Speaker
Well, I want to do before we wrap up, I want to do a couple of just quick shout outs for upcoming events. First off, we sold out our Windy City trials already. Like that's that's awesome. I wasn't worried about it, but like we got we hit 22 already. So I don't even have to worry about players right now. And Manny even got in, even though he was. Yeah, right. He was slacking. Oh, look at a hard bro. I was like third on the list. Like they're on the wait list, I believe. Yeah, not not third.
00:56:48
Speaker
To register, like the last person to get in. Pretty funny. Bro, just like, have more spots, bro. That's a pretty easy problem to solve. Yeah, I'll talk to good games about doubling the size of their store.
00:57:02
Speaker
Yeah, easy. Yeah, right. And I have five dollars. Yeah, game. Packs unplugged is December one through three in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, as they're looking for another big world's open world's open qualifier. That'll be the second to last one of the Opie cycle before Worlds. It'll be this one and then Elvio, which Andrew and I actually will be at. So let's see there.
00:57:26
Speaker
That's right, I bought a non-refundable plane ticket so I'm there in that shortly. The 18th through the 21st is the Las Vegas, so in Las Vegas, Nevada. So I see you there. Really looking forward to that. Any last words, guys, before I do our little outro? I'll probably bring my Oreo cheesecake to the Tookie Trot.
00:57:54
Speaker
Yeah, I'm going to reach out to players and be like, bring sweets and goodies if you want. Yeah, that would be amazing, dude. I'll just steal the whole thing. Like a potluck. Yeah, it would be awesome. That's that's the plan for sure. Andrew.
00:58:07
Speaker
Also, don't bring natural turkey. If you're listening, if you're listening to I I'm bringing turkey. I was if you're listening to last episode, Nick and I joked about we were going to do a gauntlet v gauntlet match. We did it that match Nick Nick wanted it with the empire. I decided to go for a scum build, but it was a really close side slipped with heart. I felt bad.
00:58:29
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You know, we're dead. My gauntlet stayed around a little bit longer and I took out your gauntlet with. Yeah, it kills the gauntlet. Mine, the gauntlet versus gauntlet games. Yeah. Right. It felt right. It felt like I wanted to side slip with Captain Harkett. There were stuff in the way. It was a bummer. It was kind of. I replaced the obstacle. So I felt so good about that stuff. Oh, my God. It was, of course, it's a big traffic jam when you bring it. Oh, yeah. It's in there. Yeah.
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gaming group and community out there. Love you all very much. I appreciate it. Do your first breaking news. Breaking news. My name is Nick Sperry. I'm Andrew. I'm Manuel. And we appreciate you all listening to episode six of the 312 Squadron podcast. We will see you later. See you later.