Introduction to Hyperbaric Oxygen Therapy
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Happy Monday, and I'm here at the Thirst Trap, Under Pressure Hyperbarics with Nicole Garrett, the founder and CEO.
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And today, today, you gotta listen.
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We're gonna be talking about the cheat codes to recovery.
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So Nicole, how you doing today?
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So tell us more about, you know, underpressures.
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Is it hyperbarics or hyperbarics?
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Hyper means increased.
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And then barrics is pressure.
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So we increase pressure.
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Increased pressure to?
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So if I, when you think about hyperbaric oxygen, if I were to just put you on oxygen right now, not going to do a whole lot for you.
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You're otherwise healthy.
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What we do with hyperbaric oxygen therapy, we put you inside a chamber, we pressurize the chamber, and we can manipulate how we get oxygen into your body.
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So we're dissolving oxygen into all your body fluids.
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You don't even need your red blood cells anymore.
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And that oxygen goes to all your tissues, all those injuries, that shoulder you just dislocated.
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It gets in there and pulls that inflammation down.
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We throw some stem cells at it and recover.
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Hey guys, that sounds like a lot, but I promise you it's good.
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But before we tap into that, who is Nicole and how did you get started into like, you know, the barriers?
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Like, where did it all start
Nicole Garrett's Background and Experience
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Yeah, so I was a commercial diver by train.
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So hard hat diver, kind of underwater welding.
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Diver like in the ocean?
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Yeah, like the big steel helmets, you know, that's why it's part of our logo.
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And from there I went on to work at UCSD.
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We worked in trauma for a long time, so a lot of big crush injuries, massive blood loss, kind of big things.
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Went on to do traumatic brain injury research for the Department of Defense.
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And then from there I started opening hospital-based facilities all over the country.
Demographics of Hyperbaric Therapy Users
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hospitals don't own their chambers.
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It's kind of a lot that goes into
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Putting this together so they contract it out.
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So what people with the demographic of people use the chambers the most?
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Is it the elderly?
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Is it you know people who construction workers like injuries like cool?
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Yeah, it's anyone who needs to recover so
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By default you do get a lot of elderly.
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Just because as we age things don't heal as well as they used to.
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There's a ton of research going into dementia and Alzheimer's and actually lengthening the telomeres on your DNA.
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So anti-aging on a DNA level from this.
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But outside kind of a hospital-based
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I mean we're in LA, we treat all your stunt people here because they come bouncing out of the chamber going, I feel amazing.
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And we're like, don't re-hurt yourself.
Mechanism and Benefits of Oxygen Therapy
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yeah, it's just like I said, it's a cheat code for recovery.
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So if you can go in, get the therapy and then come out feeling amazing.
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Yeah, I mean, I was here not too long ago.
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I'm thinking July, I came from my shoulder, I dislocated it.
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You put me in, I think I was in there for like an hour.
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Me, because I've done it multiple times, like I understand the feeling it does for me, but what is the actual process that's happening while I'm in there to my muscles and my body when I'm under pressure?
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Yeah, so kind of like I said in the beginning, when we put you in the chamber, we're compressing your whole body.
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Now anything that you breathe,
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is concentrated and it's dissolved in all your fluids.
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So like, think of a soda that's carbonated with all those little bubbles inside there.
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Well, now that concentrated oxygen's in your joints, and it calms down the inflammation, it stimulates collagen synthesis, it stimulates stem cells to be released,
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And your body just goes, okay, where do I put this?
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And your whole body's in there, so it's going to start healing everything.
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Not just the shoulder.
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Not just the shoulder.
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And how often does someone with an injury or, say like people, I know people who have like lower back problems, right?
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How often should they come in?
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Once a week, once a month, several times a month, like,
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How consistent should they be to kind of get the full benefit?
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That depends on their specific injury.
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And when people come in, we do a full consult and kind of get their whole makeup and figure out what the best plan is for them.
Comparing Hyperbaric Chambers and Athlete Usage
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have kind of a long-term nagging injury lower back, a lot of times you can find a good maintenance dose.
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A lot of our referring surgeons come in after a long day of surgery because they're hunched over the patient all day to get that same back pain.
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They come in once and they're great for another month or two.
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If you're really trying to heal an injury, like our athletes or fellow athletes that come in, you want to come in every day.
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It's like your antibiotics.
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You don't skip a dose.
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And get that compounded.
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So do you like the professional athletes that play big time?
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Suppose I say someone like LeBron James.
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Does he use this equipment or technology every day?
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He has what's called a mild hyperbaric chamber.
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So this is a can of worms where people are going to start getting really upset on the line.
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Mild hyperbarics was developed and approved for treating altitude sickness only.
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So for our wildland firefighters that go up in the mountains and fight fires, they get altitude sickness.
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They're working hard, they're breathing heavy, there's not as much oxygen in the mountains.
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They can put them in those soft-sided mild chambers to bring them back to sea level or so and treat it on the mountains so they can go back out and fight.
Additional Health Services Offered
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here, it's not enough oxygen
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to be dissolved in your tissues to drive it into those injuries.
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So you really need kind of these more powerful chambers.
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So that's what he was using, that's part of the reason his injury took so long to heal.
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You take someone like Mo Bamba who had the same injury,
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And Obama is an NBA player, right?
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NBA player on the Lakers.
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He came in here every day and had some of the same co-therapies with the Hyperbarics and was cleared by the playoffs to go back in.
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So that's just much more powerful.
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So, you know, I know not only you got the hyperbaric, but you have a lot of other, you know, services here.
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You know, for me, I went to France this past summer.
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You guys had a jet lag trip.
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You know, I felt incredible with my time on the plane when I got off, when I came back.
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So along with the hyperbaric, what else services do you guys provide that benefits the whole ecosystem of the body?
Impact of Gut Health on Recovery
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we do do the IV therapy.
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high nutrient IVs, the advantage of doing an IV versus just taking your multivitamins, depending upon your gut health and your ability to absorb those vitamins, doing an IV, we bypass that.
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It's in your system.
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It's quicker, but you also are guaranteeing absorption.
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Okay, work that down.
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You're not going to take absorption when I'm not taking my vitamins?
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When you eat your vitamins, it's got to go to your stomach, it's got to be broken down, your small intestine, your large intestine, they all start absorbing things.
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But if that's not optimized for whatever reason, then you can't absorb everything.
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So is liquid vitamins better than like capsules?
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It's still largely dependent on your own gut health.
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And so, you know, everyone's got inflammation right now.
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Our diet's a huge component of that.
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If your gut's inflamed, you're not absorbing everything.
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So then you're just going to pee it out.
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And what keeps a person gut inflamed?
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Is it like just hereditary, DNA?
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Is it lack of rest?
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Well, stress is probably the biggest trigger of inflammation in the body.
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Over everything else.
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But then you've got to look at what you're putting in.
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You can't put in 85 octane, 87 octane into a high-performing body and expect to win the next F1 race.
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It's just not going to happen.
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So you can't stop the packaged foods, stop the processed foods, just get real food.
Exploring EBOO and Its Benefits
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for someone who travels a lot like myself, like I'm going to Cancun in a month, what type of drip should I come in and get?
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I would do the jet lag IV preemptively or the immune IV, just because you're on a plane, touching a lot of communal things.
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You just want your immune system to optimize so you don't get there and then get sick.
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And part of the benefit of IV too is just hydration.
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And what's the ingredients in those IVs?
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It depends on which one.
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A lot of it's heavy on B vitamins.
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That's great for your immune system.
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We'll do glutathione.
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We do that as a push too through the IV.
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Really good for liver cleansing and growth.
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Do you get IV drips?
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A week or a month?
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Well, anytime someone calls out and we already mix their bag, it's kind of a race to see who gets it.
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But sometimes about once a week just to get that high dose.
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And I do take daily multis.
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And so you got that.
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You just tell me about this machine here, people.
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Is the oxygen therapy a Hebrew?
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So this is our newest oxygen under pressure delivery system.
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It's extracorpioal blood oxygenation and ozonation.
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So... What's that?
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Can we break down the terminology?
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We take out your blood.
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It goes through actually a pretty powerful filter first.
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So they already use it to take cholesterol out of your blood and help lower cholesterol.
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After it goes through the filter, we oxygenate it.
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And you will actually see your dark deoxygenated blood coming out on one side and healthy bright red blood coming back in.
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And then we can also dose ozone.
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So you clean the blood.
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We're cleaning the blood.
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So everyone knows like O2, it's written everywhere, every logo you see.
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Oxygen's a really stable molecule in pairs.
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add a third oxygen molecule on there, it's not stable, we put it in your body and it throws off that extra oxygen and
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helps to grab free radicals, grab toxins, pull it out.
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And specifically biofilms, so bacteria, viruses, part of the reason our immune system struggles to get to those is it can't get through the biofilm, they're little protective shields.
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So the ozone, and same with the hyperbaric oxygen, that extra oxygen takes away their shields.
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Now your immune system
Recovery as a Health Priority
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has a better chance of penetrating.
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And would people, so all people come use this?
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A little bit louder.
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Yeah, so for the, what's it again?
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Much easier just to call it Eboo.
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And it benefits, you know, cleaning out your blood, your blood cells, right?
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Clean your blood cells, cleaning the toxins out of your, you know, it's not just red blood cells in your blood.
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It's all the nutrients we just threw in that IV.
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It's all the toxins.
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There's bacteria in there.
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So it just cleans all that out.
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And how often should someone come and clean their blood once a month?
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Usually, if you're a pretty healthy person, you do it on like a quarterly basis.
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Or even twice a year.
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If you're overcoming being sick, having COVID especially, you know, everyone's got long COVID right now, those long-term symptoms, then you can kind of do it every week for a month.
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and then go back to something like fingers.
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So this is like helps if you have COVID you're saying?
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Cause COVID weakens your immune system because your body's trying so hard to take care of the COVID that your underlying sicknesses come out.
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One of the big ones we see is everyone at mono or Epstein-Barr as a kid, we're seeing a huge resurgence of that.
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That's because the COVID took down your immune system.
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So now that it's been hiding in there is coming out.
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And the thing is, you know, I think the biggest thing about what you guys do is beneficial not only for the body, but for the mind, but for the entire, like, body.
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But what I've noticed and what I understand from the world at large and people out there is that the lack of information, the lack of education, you know, we had a lot of terms in here in this discussion thus far.
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I want to kind of take it back and kind of like break it down to make it make sense in a way where people feel comfortable and confident in coming and getting an hyperbaric chamber, getting an IV drip, you know, cleaning out their blood.
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What can you say from your perspective,
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to make people feel safe that they're coming to a place that's going to benefit them and not hurt them.
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Because I think when people think of the things we've talked about, spoke on, they're like, oh, that's what you do.
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You work out and you're a recovery guy.
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And it's like, no, this is for everybody.
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This is open to everyone.
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So what is it that you can say or give people so they can understand why it's so important to recover your body and put your well-being first?
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Yeah, well, I think we're seeing this everywhere right now, is people are great at finally getting in the gym or starting to change, but they don't give themselves the proper recovery.
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They don't have the rest.
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They're not getting the nutrients back in to rebuild what you just stripped down.
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And then again, our favorite, most recent disease process everywhere, COVID, it just strips a lot out of you.
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And so coming in here or somewhere like here, as long as you have the right training and right equipment or right staff, I mean, it's very safe.
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All we're doing with the hyperbaric
Conditions Treated by Hyperbarics
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oxygen is pressure and it's oxygen and we're letting your body do the rest.
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We're just using that pressure to kind of manipulate how we get it done.
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Yeah, I think on this worksheet that we're providing here, we're talking about people like post-surgery, people who have cerebral palsy, a lot of these things.
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Oh, here it is right here.
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So diabetes, cancer, autism, Lyme disease, recovery from plastic surgery, sports injury, stroke,
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traumatic brain injuries usually helps when they come through the chamber, right?
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Yeah, I mean on a fundamental level, all of those things are being treated the same way.
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So we're getting oxygen to areas that it was deprived.
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If you had surgery, we literally cut the oxygen supply off because we cut those blood vessels.
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When we put you in the chamber, we're re-oxygenating that area.
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And with hyperbaric oxygen, it's the only thing we have in medicine that will regrow new blood vessels.
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So if you have a damage from surgery, if you have damage from a traumatic brain injury because your brain hit the inside of your skull and you'll have a giant bruise on your brain where all those little tiny blood vessels have been ruptured, now we put you in the chamber and we just get oxygen in there.
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You had a stroke, it's a little blockage of the blood flow in your brain and it cannot get past there.
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So we flood the area of oxygen and then when you come out, we take it out every day.
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That's what stimulates your body to go, wait a minute, I had something there a minute ago.
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and I don't have it, I'm gonna create it.
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And how long does it take for someone to notice recovery when they do the chamber?
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For our athletes who are in tune with their bodies, they come out literally after one treatment.
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Jumping around, bouncing around.
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For us more regular people that aren't like on your level, you don't always notice it right away, but surgeons will tell you they can see it in the OR after one treatment.
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And it's happening.
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Yeah, I wanted to say, you know, it was two years ago,
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I was done hyperbaric at a different place.
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And I was just like, let me try.
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I didn't feel anything.
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But there was a moment where maybe I thought I got COVID.
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I was like freaking out.
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My lower back was hurt.
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My upper back was hurt.
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And I was just like, my immune system is breaking down.
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And I got in the chamber and I felt totally different.
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And I was just like, what happened?
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Like, I knew my body changed and I felt better.
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I'm like, oh, it really works.
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You know, sometimes people think this thing can be a placebo effect, right?
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It's gonna tell you, you believe it, it works.
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No, I mean, we can see it on a cellular level.
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We have data to show we go this deep for this tissue and we go deeper for muscle and even deeper for bone based on time to get the oxygen in there.
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We can see it, but to feel it.
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Sometimes it feels slow.
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We're a, I want my magic pill society.
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I want it to heal like right down, right away.
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I got a few people that I know, and I don't know if hyperbaric will change or help this, where they're having a lot of tension in their face, like in their jars.
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Does oxygen help with that or loosen that up?
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Well, that's good.
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I mean, on some level, yes, because you're going to get the inflammation down.
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But if they have a lot of tension in their jaw, they probably are grinding their teeth at night or sleeping tense.
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And so sometimes a night guard can help.
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Botox and your insurance will usually even approve that will help you do Botox around the crown the jaw down here helps migraines I would look into that as well.
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It'll make them feel better getting treatment But then if they stop doing treatments it would come back.
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That would be something I'd say look into the cause.
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And so they probably would have to kind of be consistent.
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Coming back to that.
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What about like knee injuries, like right underneath the kneecap?
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Like tendonitis or like elbows.
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You know, I have clients that are older and they're always having tendonitis issues.
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So anytime you have itis, itis means inflammation.
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Okay, so yes, this means inflammation very anti-inflammatory And so that and that stuff will subtly go away when you're coming in and then you'll stop treatment and we've actually had a lot of patients get off their arthritis medications because they get the inflammation down but again if you're not stopping the trigger the inflammatory foods or the
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poor habits, sometimes it's posture related, then it will come back.
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So yes, we can get it to go away, but it's a band-aid for some of that.
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Now if it's an injury and you have a lack of oxygen and we get that blood supply fixed, you're great.
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And what is like the most common issue that you or challenge you guys see here on a day-to-day basis or weekly basis?
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As far as what people coming in, like coming in for, is it like migraines?
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Or just overall just immune system weak?
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We're seeing, well, we're seeing a lot of, you know, I don't know if it's necessarily long COVID or just post viral in general after the flu.
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We do see a ton of post-surgery, and we are in Beverly Hills.
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So that's a huge area of specialty here.
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But I would say surgery and traumatic brain injuries are probably the two most prevalent for us right now.
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Is it because the surgery just put too much inflammation on their body once they made the transition?
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No, so you can have complications after healing.
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Usually it's where they bring the tissue back together and those edges don't heal all the way.
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But also you can prevent scarring and treat scarring with the chamber because you get that inflammation down and you get the oxygen in there right away.
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So are you saying people should come before they get their center?
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You should do one to three treatments before.
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And then do seven to ten after if everything's going perfect.
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If there's complications, sometimes you need more.
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If you had a lot of surgery in that area before, I would actually do 10 to 20 before your treatment.
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Get all the blood supply fixed before they go in and cut it apart again.
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Do doctors that do this type of surgery, do they prefer patients to do that?
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Or do they prep them before coming in?
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Most of our surgeons in the area now tell them,
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If they're not smokers come in for a couple treatments before, if you have a smoking history, again, you've got blood vessel damage.
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So that's due 10 to 20 before to make sure the surgery will be successful.
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Otherwise we know when we cut, it's going to fail.
Cultural Perspectives on Health Investment
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would you say hyperbaric is more like a deep meditation for the body?
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Because I feel like when you're in there, your body automatically resets or regulates to its normal self.
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You're more like, not depleted, but...
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You're not tense, you're not thinking, you're more like, I always fall asleep.
00:19:40
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Yeah, well most people are very relaxed in there, you can remove your cell phones and any stimuli, so in that sense it's very forced.
00:19:47
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A lot of our patients like to listen to frequency music and meditations while they're in there and get the dual benefit.
00:19:53
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But there is some benefit to just that much pressure being on your body.
00:19:56
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It's kind of, you know, you get some lymphatic drainage, you get like a big hug.
00:20:01
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You know, for the world we're living in today, my intention for the world is to be healthier, to heal, to be better, to be stronger, wiser, you know, to help the equal sets of themselves.
00:20:12
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What is your intentions for under pressure, hyperbarics, and how do you see things moving forward for humanity from your lens?
00:20:19
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What do you want to see?
00:20:20
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Well, more prevention.
00:20:22
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We're still a very reactionary society when it comes to health care, personal health.
00:20:28
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We wait until something's wrong.
00:20:29
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I need to get it better.
00:20:31
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How do we do that?
00:20:32
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Well, some of that's culture.
00:20:34
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You know, that's all, that's just how it's been forever.
00:20:36
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We're not a society of prevention.
00:20:38
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Our insurance companies don't support a lot of prevention.
00:20:42
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If you're going to do a lot of that preventative stuff, it's out of your own pocket.
00:20:45
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So they wait until it gets so bad they have to go in and then, you know, outs of prevention is a pound of cure.
00:20:50
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If you can come in, if you can keep the inflammation down on your body, keep yourself hydrated,
00:20:56
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get adequate rest, you probably never progressed to that, oh no, I have this very big thing wrong with me.
00:21:02
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Or if it happens, you're going to recover so much faster.
00:21:06
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And what is, there's a frequency, there's a paradigm around holistic well-being and preventive care.
00:21:16
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Like I said earlier, like people are afraid, unconsciously.
00:21:21
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Even like if my parents came to town, my mom was here like last summer.
00:21:24
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And I wanted to take her to cryo.
00:21:26
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She didn't want to get in the chamber.
00:21:27
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And then it's like she just was so resistant, which I get because she's not comfortable.
00:21:33
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But it's a stereotype.
00:21:34
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It's a paradigm that why is it like that?
00:21:37
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Is it because it's too attached to like being in a hospital or being less or sick?
00:21:43
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I think even with cryo and some of those, I think there's just largely a fear of the unknown.
00:21:49
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With hyperbaric oxygen therapy, there's often a fear of claustrophobia.
00:21:53
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You know, that's part of the reason we have those clear acrylic chambers.
00:21:57
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I wish we had one of here right now.
00:21:58
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It's a little loud.
00:21:59
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Go to the page right now.
00:22:02
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The clear chambers, you can see out.
00:22:04
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We can communicate the whole time.
00:22:06
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And sometimes it's just education.
00:22:08
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Being comfortable with the unknown and diving in.
00:22:12
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It's not something, I mean, a lot of people look at this and go, you're going to take my blood?
00:22:17
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Or even getting a drip and you got to get some blood out of it or stimulate it there.
00:22:22
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Another thing that I realized is that investment, I always say the greatest investment we're making in life is in ourselves.
00:22:28
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So people might not want to pay for training.
00:22:31
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They might not want to pay for a vitamin drip or a hyperbaric.
00:22:34
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but it's better in you, the vibration of you.
00:22:38
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I guess this goes back to what you said before because we're programmed not to invest in our health and well-being.
Integrating Recovery in Fitness Regimes
00:22:46
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that intention for us to be that way?
00:22:49
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You know, it's like we're going to eat unhealthy food, we're not going to work out, we're going to drink, we're going to party, but we're not going to invest in the health of our body.
00:22:58
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I don't have the answer for that.
00:23:03
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Just look at most of the US compared to Europe where you just came from.
00:23:06
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We work, like live to work.
00:23:10
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Where they work to live.
00:23:12
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There's a huge balance where they take time off midday and do your siesta.
00:23:16
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That's their self-care.
00:23:17
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It's also putting the big meal in the middle of the day and some right before you go to bed.
00:23:21
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Their programming is different.
00:23:23
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Their culture is different.
00:23:24
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Our culture is work.
00:23:28
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Work, grab some food as you're running down.
00:23:30
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I'm a victim of this.
00:23:32
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I mean, I eat at my desk while I'm working.
00:23:33
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The last time I took an actual lunch, I couldn't help.
00:23:37
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Yeah, we got to stop that.
00:23:38
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I just want more people to be healed and have the information about Hyperbaric.
00:23:42
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So what part of LA are we in right now?
00:23:45
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We're in Beverly Hills or West Hollywood?
00:23:47
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We are right on the edge.
00:23:49
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Technically, Beverly Hills, a couple blocks from Cedars.
00:23:52
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We're right on the edge.
00:23:54
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So you got the IV, you got hyperbaric.
00:23:58
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What else do you guys have here?
00:23:59
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We do peptide therapy.
00:24:02
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Peptides are kind of hard to explain, but peptides are something, not like stem cells.
00:24:08
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Peptides are something, though, that's inside your body that you have, but you can supplement with.
00:24:14
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The most famous peptide right now is cypaglutide.
00:24:16
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That's what's in those endics.
00:24:17
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That's the big one that's helping all the diabetics lose weight, get their sugars under control.
00:24:23
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But it's not a drug per se.
00:24:25
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It's something your body makes and we're just supplementing more of it.
00:24:28
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Those are all mostly injections every day though.
00:24:32
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And why are people using it?
00:24:33
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I see a lot of people losing weight here in LA, Hollywood.
00:24:37
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Is there a side effect to that?
00:24:40
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The second gluten does have some side effects.
00:24:44
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And again, just like anything, you can have too much of something.
00:24:46
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So you have to be careful.
00:24:48
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If someone has any history of thyroid issues, they can't do that.
00:24:51
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It can cause thyroid issues.
00:24:53
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And you have to watch your pancreas a little bit.
00:24:55
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So it's working with our insulin system that's driven by our pancreas.
00:24:58
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So it can cause some inflammation in the pancreas.
00:25:01
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So it's not one you just want to, like, jump into.
00:25:03
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You want a doctor to be monitoring your labs and making sure we're not stimulating inflammation during that process.
00:25:09
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Yeah, well, people, be aware.
00:25:11
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For the peptides, those types.
00:25:13
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But anyway, what is your ideal client as far as like health and well-being, like what they should eat, what you recommend they do once a week, a few times a week to be, you know, fully healthy?
00:25:24
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Well, I think our ideal client is just someone who is an active participant.
00:25:29
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And that's true of anything in health.
00:25:31
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You have to actively be doing all the things you need to do outside of here to maximize the effort, the money, and the time that you're putting for being here.
00:25:39
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This is a great anti-inflammatory.
00:25:40
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It's going to stimulate stem cell release.
00:25:42
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It's going to get you where you want to be.
00:25:44
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But if you walk out the door and go eat a cheeseburger and french fries and a soda full of sugar and carbs and fats and salts, then you're undoing the benefits.
00:25:55
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So you want to put everything in place and you'll have amazing results.
00:26:00
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Yeah, and I, you know, like you said, we're so programmed to do the opposite.
00:26:05
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Because I think social media, the media has pushed out all the unhealthy things that we think we need or want.
00:26:13
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And sometimes it's not food.
Promoting Holistic Health Practices
00:26:14
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You know, sometimes people get married or
00:26:16
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get a college degree or buy that home and it's not sustainable for everybody.
00:26:22
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I want to say that I think it's important if you can three times or four times a week move your body for 30 minutes.
00:26:29
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Even if you just power walk in, you go on a hike, you're spending time in nature, right?
00:26:34
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Try your best to eat as clean as you can, right?
00:26:38
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And understand what is your blueprint and your program when it comes to health and well-being.
00:26:41
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And more importantly, what is health to you?
00:26:43
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Because everybody's concept around health and well-being is totally different.
00:26:47
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I know people say, I can eat what I want because I work out five times a week.
00:26:50
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Okay, but that's that concept.
00:26:52
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It doesn't mean it's going to work long-term.
00:26:56
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But I just think recovery, even when I just got a certification of my NASM cert,
00:27:01
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was nothing in the certification that talked about recovery at all yeah it's something about overtraining yeah but they didn't talk anything about recovery why is recovery such a hidden factor when it comes to the physical training for the health of your body like how do you don't how's it not out in the front like you know i have a client she says she's all about longevity over vanity right because fitness look at me yeah but no one talks about
00:27:28
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healed or i'm recovered why is it not why is it not pushed out enough is it is it becoming a new thing now it's the society is changing as a whole people are kind of waking up to this people are starting to look at prevention anti-aging um but that's actually a good concept for her because you can do the fitness and look good now but as you age if you're not doing the right things to recover and replenish it's gonna show
00:27:54
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It's gonna show in your tissues, your collagen's not gonna last, it's gonna sag.
00:27:58
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And you're gonna be forced to do something to compensate versus again, just preventing it, doing it right the first time.
00:28:03
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And I think these things should be in school.
00:28:05
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They should build them in curriculums.
00:28:07
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They should be, you know, I said before that she should come up with a book, you know, cheat codes.
00:28:13
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Cheat codes for, what do we say?
00:28:17
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Because if you know how to recover your body, then
00:28:21
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I always say, you know, in nutrition they teach you how to add and not take away because when you start adding the right things, the wrong things will start falling off.
00:28:31
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So I feel like if people knew the benefits of recovering their body, they'll understand, you know, the benefits of moving their body.
00:28:39
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But if you don't know me, there's like, why would you do it?
00:28:42
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So I just think, you know, we need hyperbaric chambers in every university, every school.
00:28:47
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I'm not sure if they have any.
00:28:48
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Maybe they do in the major D1s, but I know when I was in college, I don't remember having this type of equipment or ozone therapy or vitamin drips.
00:28:57
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You don't need a vitamin drips, you just hungover.
00:28:59
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It's like, why is that?
00:29:00
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Like, why not just weekly or monthly or quarterly that we should get these drips?
00:29:05
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I think it's something that we should definitely be moving towards.
00:29:08
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But there has to be an acceptance for it.
00:29:10
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How do we accept it?
00:29:13
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I feel like you have the answer to that.
00:29:14
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Well, I think allopathic medicine has to accept it more.
Hyperbaric Therapy for Athletic Enhancement
00:29:19
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Allopathic is your traditional medicine, which is what we primarily use in the U.S. Yes.
00:29:25
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It's not more the holistic, where we look at your whole thing.
00:29:27
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We go, you have a knee injury, I'm going to send you to an ortho, he's going to look at your knee.
00:29:31
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Whereas you go to someone who's like a chiropractor, they're gonna say, yes, you have a knee injury, but did you know your foot was partially dislocated?
00:29:37
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So every step you take, you're putting undue stress on your knee.
00:29:41
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Or like half the pro athletes I've seen in here for knee and ankle injuries come in, not for the first injury, but because the other side is now starting to do the same thing because they've been overcompensating.
00:29:51
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They didn't treat the source.
00:29:53
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So getting that recovery in the first time would have prevented the secondary injury for them.
00:29:58
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Yeah, I mean, recovery people, recovery of your body.
00:30:02
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By the way, follow Under Pressure Hypo Barracks on Instagram.
00:30:06
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Do you guys got anything going on for like, you know, this fourth quarter?
00:30:10
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Any programs or discounts or anything in particular that people should look forward to?
00:30:15
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Yeah, this month we're really... By the way, are you doing anything virtually?
00:30:17
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Because, you know, we are in L.A.
00:30:19
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Yeah, we do virtual consults.
00:30:21
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Obviously, our facility's here.
00:30:22
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But if you're looking for a good program and then, you know, you live in Atlanta or you live in New York or whatever...
00:30:28
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We do do telemed consults to at least help you build a plan.
00:30:31
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We can do some of your initial nutrition and hormone testing, mail that out.
00:30:35
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and then set you up with a good clinic.
00:30:37
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Our goal is to open more under pressures.
00:30:39
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We have a couple in the works.
00:30:42
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And how important is hormones for a person's individual body?
00:30:46
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Because you've got people who go to the gym and they work out, but then they can't drop the weight or they bloated all the time.
00:30:52
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And it could be something in their hormones or in their blood that they don't know about.
00:30:56
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Blood work helps tremendously with figuring that out.
00:31:00
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Because a lot of that prevents recovery.
00:31:08
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And then we also take it here, but we can mail the kits to your office or set you up with LabCorp or wherever you're at and then interpret the results and give you a plan.
00:31:20
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But your hormones are important.
00:31:22
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They're like on and off switches for everything in your body.
00:31:24
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And so if those are off, they're going to be a huge factor on why you can't lose weight or why you feel you can't recover.
00:31:32
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I mean, I just think in general, I've been
00:31:34
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Recovering and working out for years, but what I do know, I always say is the most undervalued thing in the world is rest.
00:31:42
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We don't get out rest.
00:31:46
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Like we have to rest.
00:31:47
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And I think recovery is the cousin or the form of rest, right?
00:31:53
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Because you're allowing yourself to let go and receive.
00:31:55
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It's like when we're resting, we're receiving.
00:31:57
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When we're working out, we're going, we're giving.
00:32:00
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Well, when you sleep is when your body does all its repair work.
00:32:03
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So if you're not getting adequate sleep and adequate rest, then all that work you put in, you can't recover from it.
00:32:09
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There was a pretty famous study for athletes done.
00:32:13
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Nike sponsored it, the Nike Project.
00:32:15
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But they took a bunch of athletes.
00:32:17
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They had them train at sea level, but sleep in a hypobaric environment.
00:32:23
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So it's like sleeping in altitude.
00:32:24
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It's kind of like all of our fighters we know go train a big bear.
00:32:27
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And they all improved their times.
00:32:30
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And it's kind of like a legal way of blood doping.
00:32:32
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By depriving your body of oxygen at night, your body's forced to make more red blood cells to carry.
00:32:38
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The problem with the study they also found was everyone had more injuries and most of them couldn't fully finish because at the most important time of repair, their sleep, they didn't get enough oxygen.
00:32:50
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So like if you lived in like Denver or in Colorado, would that be the case?
00:32:54
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If you're born there, your body naturally adapts.
00:32:56
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You guys have the cheat code embedded in you.
00:32:59
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But if you or I went there, because we're not used to living there,
00:33:03
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yeah it's a factor and why is that i remember when i was in mexico city i think the altitude was maybe like four or five thousand and i was working out like wow i must be tired yeah yeah what is that is because the air is like thicker there or no it's thinner it's thinner so there's less atmospheric pressure on top of you so right now we're basically at sea level in los angeles 21 percent oxygen we're breathing here when you go up to altitude say 4 000 feet you have less atmospheric pressure we're only getting 19 percent oxygen
00:33:30
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Every breath you take, every move you make, your body still wants to use the same amount of oxygen, but it's not there.
00:33:36
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So that's kind of what the hyperbarics does.
00:33:38
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We just bypass all that and dissolve in your fluids.
00:33:41
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But you go up to altitude.
00:33:43
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A lot of those athletes end up sleeping in an altitude tent or going to train there and then getting a hyperbaric treatment during the day to compensate for the loss.
00:33:51
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I think Canelo was training in a Colorado place.
00:33:55
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And so that benefits.
00:33:56
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But does they stay there the whole time?
00:33:58
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You live there the whole time.
00:34:00
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You have to be in that environment at least 10 hours a day to kind of get that benefit.
00:34:05
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So usually it's just a little, if I'm going to be stuck inside this environmental sleep, but again, that's your most important recovery time.
00:34:11
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That's when your body starts head to toe.
00:34:14
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That's when you clean out all the debris and chemicals in your brain.
00:34:16
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That's why you don't sleep well for a while and you feel brain fog.
00:34:19
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You're just, you're literally not able to clean it out.
00:34:22
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Well, this was a beautiful discussion.
Conclusion and Future Directions
00:34:27
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What you got there, Sheila?
00:34:29
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They're discussing me.
00:34:32
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So, Eboo, if you guys want to know a little bit more about it, and I am not the absolute specialist on it, we have someone that comes in every week to do it for us, but there's different forms of ozone that you can get.
00:34:44
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So, some people will just get ozone injections in joints.
00:34:48
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Oh, you can do that.
00:34:48
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You just put it right in the joint, your body takes that oxygen, and again, it's kind of like working a little bit like stem cells, but it's also got a powerful cleating factor.
00:34:57
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The next is just to take out a pint of blood.
00:35:00
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inject the ozone in it and then re-infuse it.
00:35:03
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And they have some of those called the 10 pass, where they'll do that 10 times.
00:35:06
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Most people don't make it a full 10 times, your blood's gonna clot off.
00:35:10
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With this, because it's a closed system, we can do half of your blood all at once.
00:35:15
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And the reason we like this system over the others is one, the manufacturer of this was very good about
00:35:22
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researching the products they used, the tubing, because oxygen is corrosive.
00:35:27
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So if you're not using the right components in the machine, you're going to oxidize it and you're going to overdose someone with ozone.
00:35:33
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So they eliminate all of that.
00:35:35
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But also you have the filter on here and that filter is about half the powerhouse of the EU.
00:35:40
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We're pulling blood clots out of people that just had COVID and you can see it in the lines.
00:35:45
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When we run the full system, you'll see we can pull extracellular waste off of your cells.
00:35:50
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So everyone that does eBoo is like, I feel amazing.
00:35:53
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I slept for the first time.
00:35:54
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They're starting to lower some of their medications.
00:35:57
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Again, it's powerful just lowering your cholesterol, too.
00:36:00
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What is the average cost for something like this for someone who come in who get this?
00:36:04
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Yeah, I think they're about $1,800.
00:36:07
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And what about hyperbaric if you want to come in?
00:36:09
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Hyperbaric, if you can't use insurance, we start around $350 an hour.
00:36:16
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And if someone has asthma, is hyperbaric recommended for them because they have trouble breathing?
00:36:21
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It's not going to affect your asthma negatively at all.
00:36:25
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If patients really want to take their inhaler and we can do that.
00:36:28
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But your inhaler works like a vasoconstrictor to kind of reduce the inflammation in there.
00:36:34
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That's what this naturally does.
00:36:37
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With oxygen therapy, other than recovery, what's some other fun facts that you can get from HBO?
00:36:44
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Fun facts from HBO.
00:36:46
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I mean other than recovery, it stimulates collagen synthesis.
00:36:49
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So anyone who's been working a career in hyperbarics, everyone's always like, you guys look so young.
00:36:53
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The coolest research I've seen in oxygen therapy or hyperbaric oxygen therapy in the last couple years came out of Israel and they took 40, I believe it was 40 people with a median age of 65 years old.
00:37:09
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took out their DNA, mapped out their telomeres.
00:37:12
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Their goal was to kind of prevent the degradation of every year your telomeres get shorter.
00:37:16
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That's your tails of your DNA.
00:37:17
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That's what we have to replicate to make new skin cells, new pancreas cells, new brain, whatever.
00:37:22
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And they gave them 60 hyperbaric treatments for two hours, remapped it out, and not only did they
00:37:29
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halted regression, but they actually re-grew the length of their telomeres.
00:37:33
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So on a DNA level, they were 40 years old.
00:37:36
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So they took them from 65 to 40 years old on a DNA level, which is groundbreaking.
00:37:42
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We always knew it made you look younger and you feel better.
00:37:45
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Yeah, I've never heard that.
00:37:46
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But to have your DNA show the benefit was pretty groundbreaking.
00:37:51
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So we got to get people to come in.
00:37:52
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You want to look younger, feel younger, be younger.
00:37:55
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We're all younger.
00:37:57
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And Eric, who's on your shirt?
00:37:59
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Oh, MJ Fadeaway, the greatest ever door, the GOAT.
00:38:02
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You know, I got that energy on today.
00:38:05
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But yeah, Nicole, this was amazing.
00:38:07
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I'll definitely be here to get a vitamin drip.
00:38:09
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And also to try, I got to do another hyperbaric chamber.
00:38:13
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Only thing is my ears pop.
00:38:18
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So you got to, it's just for those of you that haven't done it, going on a hyperbaric chamber, it's, we call them dives because you're just like a scuba diver, you're diving.
00:38:27
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But it's the exact opposite of flying.
00:38:29
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So it's like landing in the airplane first.
00:38:31
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You're going to feel that pressure on your ears.
00:38:33
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You got to clear them.
00:38:34
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How do you clear them?
00:38:36
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I can't do that for you.
00:38:38
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Now, unlike a plane, because we use single-person chambers, we can stop.
00:38:41
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We can wait for you to catch up.
00:38:42
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We can even go backwards.
00:38:45
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Most people just kind of wiggle their jaw, yawn.
00:38:46
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You can vallisalvo where you pinch your nose, puff out your cheeks.
00:38:51
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Well, swallowing helps.
00:38:55
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Well, this was amazing.
00:38:56
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Thank you, Nicole.
00:38:58
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I appreciate you coming out.
00:39:00
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Guys, follow Under Pressure Hyperbarics.
00:39:03
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Are we sure on Instagram?
00:39:04
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Do you have a personal page?
00:39:05
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How can people get more information from you?
00:39:07
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Yeah, you can find us at Under Pressure Hyperbarics or underpressure.com.
00:39:13
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And get more details, more info, more information to better your situation.
00:39:17
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And listen, we're going to normalize recovery.
00:39:19
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It's going to be normal.
00:39:20
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It's going to be the normal comedy thing and things to come.
00:39:24
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So thank you everyone for joining and listening.