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Crooked River Cast Show 47
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- Life in prison for the man who tried to Kill President Trump.
- Judge blocks Trump from ending Haitian TPS.
- How corrupt is our judiciary system in Ohio? CLIPS
- Judge Celebreeze pleads guilty.
- Ohio Schools consider a different direction.
- Canton schools approve cuts.
- AxeTheTax.org
- Critter Corner:
- SB 341 Would stop under age marriage.
- HB 79 Would “protect” Ohio Referee’s.
- Hb 304 Would extend school recess.
- Who is getting paid from all the speeding cameras?
- Don’t eat yellow or white snow.
Good Things:
- Ohio hosting Olympic Events.
- It’s not winter without a good dog rescue.
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Transcript
Show Introduction & Groundhog Day
00:00:12
Speaker
Let's go.
00:00:24
Speaker
show forty seven for the week of february ninth two thousand and twenty
00:00:44
Speaker
morning again chilly morning again and you know i had all my hopes set for the uh what the groundhog would say
00:00:59
Speaker
And I've got mixed results. Why? Because he's right 35% of the time? Well, I got mixed results. i'm not sure who to who to believe in this case because we can go with, I think it's Buckeye Chuck a or Kazmir, the cat.
00:01:19
Speaker
Kazmir, the cat. Yeah. So Buckeye Chuck says, i think he said, um, less winter. It's going to be six more weeks.
00:01:31
Speaker
He had the good forecast. He said, oh, winter's going to be shorter this year. The cat says no, winter's going to be much longer than we predicted. i don't know who to believe, the cat or the rat.
00:01:43
Speaker
and ah And then it got me thinking, what a weird tradition.
Groundhog Day Critique & Satire
00:01:48
Speaker
mean, I've got some strange traditions, probably not the strangest one. But it is pretty strange. And i thought we could have our buddy, our buddy Bill kind of, kind of bring it back and kind of explain what, you know, this is kind of my thinking of Groundhog's Day.
00:02:03
Speaker
Then it's the same old shtick every year. The guy comes out with a big stick and raps on the door. They pull the little rat out, they talk to him, the rat talks back, and then they tell us what's gonna happen. This is one time where television really fails to capture the true excitement of a large squirrel predicting the weather. This is pitiful.
00:02:23
Speaker
A thousand people freezing their butts off waiting to worship a rat. You're hypocrites! All of ya!
00:02:32
Speaker
Love Groundhog Day. Tiny village of western Pennsylvania. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. As long as this groundhog keeps seeing his shadow, I don't see any other way out. He's got to be stopped.
00:02:45
Speaker
Got to be stopped, Tom. he's got and i think the next clip is him ah with the yeah with the rat on his lap as they drive off a cliff. is He's trying to figure out how to get out. you know It's a repeat the day's repeating. That's it. He's got to be stopped. It's like, what the heck?
00:03:05
Speaker
All because of a rat. Yeah, that was a good movie. Such a good movie. Why don't they make him look like that anymore? Lazy. lazy lazy.
00:03:17
Speaker
no No good writers anymore. I don't know. I heard there was going to be a remake of that one. It's like, can't they do anything original anymore? No, that's, and that is such a problem. i don't know. Is there, there's just too much. I think I, I i also think there's a lot of stuff that goes to streaming that would normally be movies.
00:03:36
Speaker
Maybe that's an easier easier easier avenue for a lot of people, a lot of writers and stuff. i don't know. You know, because a lot of these shows, they come out eight episodes. It's just a long movie or two long movies chopped up into eight episodes. Yeah, kind of.
00:03:50
Speaker
Could be a lot of that, too. that Some of the good writing is going somewhere else. They couldn't make it a movie if they took out all the woke shit. o okay It would only be two hours. Two episodes, you took all the woke crap. Yep.
00:04:03
Speaker
Yeah. i I didn't know we had a cat that also told the weather, but apparently we do. and he he had to go You have to go with the rat because the cat can give you toxoplasmosis. Oh, that's right. And that's probably what the problem is.
00:04:15
Speaker
But why is the cat coming out on Groundhog Day? It's very good. What, what does it, how does the cat identify? Please let us know. All all right, let's bring some, let's bring some news or whatever, some complaining to the people.
Trump Assassination Attempt & Judicial Actions
00:04:33
Speaker
ah We'll start today off with, it's I guess, some good news. so but This should be in the good things section. It should be in the good things segment. i think it's in the, no, it's not in a good things segment. I'll tell you why.
00:04:46
Speaker
So the story is man convicted of trying to kill President Trump in 2024, sentenced to life in prison. Now, I brought this up to my wife at dinner last night. And she looked at me and said, but which one?
00:05:02
Speaker
And I said, exactly. The other guy is dead. The other guy dead. But there't wasn't there three, I thought, or something like that? There was one who recently I heard. it I don't know. there's Well, i think I think a couple of things have been stopped. But this was, i mean, there was actually a rifle pointed at where Trump was going to be. so Yeah, that's right. forget the guy in Butler got, they actually shot. Well, yeah, they shot him. So the this is the guy that was hiding out.
00:05:29
Speaker
and his golf course are a golf course? Yeah, in Florida. In Florida, which I even brought up, with this was a strange one because from what I remember, this the stop at the golf course was an impromptu one.
00:05:43
Speaker
wasn't on his schedule for very long, if I remember. i don't i think I think what this guy was doing was going there every day for, or I think, four days. So I think he was just going there because he knew he was going to show up sometime. Eventually in the next week or whatever. Yeah.
00:05:59
Speaker
And they caught him with the rifle pointed at him. And now here's why it's not part of the good thing segment, I think.
00:06:07
Speaker
Because this this fine gentleman tried to save us a whole bunch of money. And he tried to off himself at the senten sentencing and they stopped him. They tried to off himself? Yeah, he tried to kill himself.
00:06:21
Speaker
Oh, I didn't yeah didn't even know that. It's not in the story, isn't it? Yeah. I know he was trying to give himself up to go to trade places with with ah with somebody who's been arrested unjustly and imprisoned in foreign land, I guess. Something like that.
00:06:40
Speaker
I can't. Says Cannon's courtroom erupted. is the judge, Cannon's courtroom erupted in chaos in September when Ruth... tried to stab himself in the neck with a pen shortly after jurors found him guilty of all on all counts. ah You know how much money he tried to save us?
00:06:58
Speaker
I mean, this guy is nuts, but he had some common sense. I mean, just take it. I think i would I would rather have him in prison. yeah i mean I'd rather have this guy rot. Yeah, rotting is nice, but it's going cost like, you know, thousands of dollars a year. It's worth it. Is it worth It's yeah totally worth it.
00:07:15
Speaker
Yeah, no, that's too easy. There's there's certain people that, you like for me, i you know, just evil people that I'd just rather see them rot.
00:07:26
Speaker
Don't let them take the easy way out. yeah Yeah. I can agree with that. You know, I don't know. This guy's going to go, this guy's going Going to go crazy. and I mean, even more crazy, I guess. i and Is this guy, I mean, he's obviously, he's got mental issues. Oh, yeah. He can't, he couldn't, I guess he couldn't um say he was crazy.
00:07:49
Speaker
Like, you know, the claim insanity. Well, he defended himself for most of the trial. Well, that's already a good indicator. Yeah. and so maybe he didn't, maybe he doesn't, if he doesn't think he's crazy, why would he?
00:08:04
Speaker
i don't know why do but I think you have to pass like to to to represent yourself. i think you have to pass the insanity thing. You like you you can't be insane. And and ah so he had to pass ah like some type of test.
00:08:19
Speaker
Well, after he tried to stab himself in the neck, they gave him an attorney. And like the attorney tried to get him a sentenced for 27 years, noting that he's basically turning 60.
00:08:32
Speaker
And the judge was like, no, we want to make sure you don't get out. Even at 87 years old, you know he was her he was trying to get 20 for the attempt. And then seven, that's for having well, he's a felon with a rifle, you know felon with the arms.
00:08:54
Speaker
Yeah, Palm Beach Golf Course. Yeah, it was. Okay, the West Palm Beach Golf Course it was at. And yeah, so he's he's going away for a while. And maybe we'll get a good book out of him here and there. We'll see. a lot of crazy people. well that's one thing I don't think should be allowed. but Yeah, it may not be in some cases. I don't know. That's a good question. But I doubt it.
00:09:13
Speaker
I doubt he's going to do anything. but Except write on the wall. He's going to do a lot of writing on the wall of this Well, no, you you know what? You get these weirdos who want to, ah like, ghost writers or or ah or a writer, you know, an author that will will put something together.
00:09:29
Speaker
You know, they they're allowed to go interview him and stuff. I i yeah imagine.
00:09:36
Speaker
Yep, yep. i I don't know. Hopefully we don't hear from again. see you later. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. bubye And we'll move on through the list as we usually are. And the next one is going to be a good one, Tom. Next one's a good one because they have a little more time eat the dogs. They're eating the cats. They're eating the cats. Because the judge, a judge, I mean, I guess we can...
00:10:10
Speaker
Still call him a judge because I'm not sure. i' More of an activist maybe, but a judge by by trade has ah has blocked President Trump's executive order getting are removing the temporary protective status for all the Haitians. Okay, Springfield.
00:10:26
Speaker
Last week I told you you could let your pets out. yeah I retract that comment. Bring them back in they're not bringing them back in Bring them back in. Close up your barbecues.
00:10:38
Speaker
Can't be out there. Good idea, because it might have been little premature. Yeah, I was i was excited. And this is Judge Anna Reyes.
00:10:48
Speaker
Yes. In Washington. She's from D.C., district around D.C. And ah i I looked her up real quick, just to let you know. She barely, she squeaked by when, you know, they vote on them.
00:11:02
Speaker
And two Republicans voted for her. She wouldn't have gotten in if she didn't get those two votes. And that was Graham. From ah Lindsey Graham, Haggett, and um Susan Collins from Maine.
00:11:19
Speaker
Did you see why the judge said? oh yeah, yeah, yeah. So Ray Reyes said accompanying 83-page opinion, accompaning eighty three page opinion that the plaintiffs were likely to prevail on the merits of the case and that she found it substantially likely that Homeland Security, Kristi Noem preordained her termination decisions because of hostility to nonwhite immigrants.
00:11:53
Speaker
That's funny. She's not a judge, you know, she's an activist. Yeah. So during, ah during, during this, she has a stay on it. So he can't do anything for the time being.
00:12:07
Speaker
yeah Yeah. Well, yeah he could. i mean, you know, the thing is Trump is really trying to go by the book where he really doesn't need to. Cause this is a, it's ah the precedent has been set.
00:12:19
Speaker
That's been overturned. How many times already? Yes. One of the various things that one of the few things that are specified in the constitution itself is the president, the executive branch has basically full control Yeah, and the other thing is, how many how many ah times has has a judge stopped, blocked something? And get overturned. Yeah, so yeah Trump's trying to play this nice, and I'm getting annoyed.
00:12:45
Speaker
I understand that. I think he's also, every move he makes... in this In this direction of putting more power in the seat of the executive branch scares me.
00:12:57
Speaker
I've seen it time and time again since I've been... What do you mean more power? I guess if he did it... He's the executor. ah get it. Why... why Why does Trump have to come in and write 150 executive orders? Because Biden came in and wrote 100 executive orders because before Trump wrote 75 executive orders. oh no, let me let me tell you why he has to do this because Congress doesn't do anything. Yes, and everything's getting put onto the executive branch. More and more of ah our elections, the presidential presidential election shouldn't really be that important. Congress and the Senate...
00:13:35
Speaker
should be the important elections in your state. well So that's kind of what, the more he does, i i get it, but the more more it gets focused on the executive branch, i don't know. I just think that's a different subject. I think this is not a, I don't, it was this a, this is not an executive order?
00:13:53
Speaker
he just He just stopped the temporary protective status. and is For freak's sake, it's called temporary for a reason. They've only been doing this since, um it it is temporary time, since 2010. You're right, right. It's 15 years. I'm just saying, i guess my point is more if he's, it's frustrating, but I do see him trying to use the system ah you know, go through the system. Don't just ignore a judge because you start ignoring judges.
00:14:23
Speaker
What happens when your opponent gets in and starts ignoring judges, that kind of stuff. But this, this isn't something, the this isn't something the judge can win. They're just doing it except to give people time to figure out where to go. If they want to try to stay criminals.
00:14:39
Speaker
Yeah. Right. I hear you. He's right. Well, I don't, I don't feel like this is giving them more power, like giving the executor more power. At all. This is this is what he's supposed to do. does she handle it?
00:14:51
Speaker
Just keep going. And ignore a court order. Yeah, totally ignore it. And then and then you set a precedent. And how many times has, yes, a precedent already has been set.
00:15:05
Speaker
That they always get overturned because he has the right to do this. How many times is he going to keep doing the same thing? And set the precedent. You already hear this precedent was already set.
00:15:18
Speaker
And you set another one. And this but this precedent is the the president gets to ignore court orders. Okay. So the precedent gets to ignore court orders after the 50th court order. Sure.
00:15:30
Speaker
Yeah. Okay. That doesn't make no sense. Okay. I get it. I'm not, I'm not saying he' he's wrong and he he can't do it Actually, I'm not sure if he can or can't or how much he can do when in this case. It's weak. I'm just saying, you I'm just saying you, you can't, you can't expect the other side not to do it if you do it too.
00:15:48
Speaker
So why they can do it we be better than them? Should we if you be better than them? should we be If you try, no, you know what? They're not playing by the rules anymore because they keep trying to block him when they know they can't. So then why have any rules?
00:16:00
Speaker
well you Do they play by the rules at this point? No, but somebody has to. we need We need to take it back. so breakrough rules so I don't think it's breaking the rules. The ends justify the means?
00:16:12
Speaker
ah if you Yeah, actually, this Now you're a Democrat. yeah okay yeah Now you're a progressive, because that's what they do. that's Yeah, that's what exactly, so it's time. I don't want to do that. No, I'm not justifying that. No, what yeah, keep keep doing it.
00:16:27
Speaker
Because we keep getting more and more, more and more and more and more. And before you know it, there are no rules. Yeah. It's almost that way now. Before you know it, there's no more a democracy.
00:16:38
Speaker
Before you know it there's no more republic. We're almost there now. Yeah. Well, that's what I mean. So, so we should we keep going or should we try to pull it back? because you're what we're yeah we are going You're not going to pull it back. Oh, well then, then what the hell we even talking about it for then?
00:16:52
Speaker
Not the way that, not the way they played the game. Someone has to be grown up in a room. I can't, you can't just, you can't just ah adopt their tactics to become your enemy. don't think that's a tactic because you're missing the point that I'm trying to make. What's that?
00:17:06
Speaker
They've already set precedent by winning. I mean, everything gets overturned. Like, so they're at this point, not playing by the rules. What rule is there?
00:17:20
Speaker
I understand. Okay. i'm And I'm saying, I get that. You're right. That precedent, precedent, precedent is already set. Why set another one and even a worse one? What, what other one?
00:17:33
Speaker
What would the precedent be at that point? Not to follow the judges' rules? Yes. well After how many tries? It doesn't matter, though. Yeah, it does. No, it to them it doesn't matter. they're not going Are we going to argue this five years or later that, well, Trump had, or no, it's goingnna they're going to say Trump ignored or ah ah a judge. Now we can ignore a judge. But we're going say, oh, but look at the details. And they're going say, what? I'm going move on to the next story. you'll see You'll see which direction this goes. That's just what's happening.
00:17:59
Speaker
We're not winning by following rules. I think we are, actually. I don't know. I think in a lot of ways we are. You can't throw it all out. You throw the whole book away to save the book. I'm not throwing anything out. Well, yeah, that's where we're going towards, though. You're still not seeing the big picture here that I'm looking at. The big picture is, the president is, I get it. I get what you're saying. They've already overruled this many times. So they're going to overrule again. So why burn the whole house down? Just wait. Just wait.
00:18:27
Speaker
oh wait I don't think you should just burn the house down. I think you should just keep going and fighting in court while you keep doing it. And you'll win. You'll keep winning right that way. There's no reason. There's no reason to to ignore the court and then start start doing this. Just wait for the wait for the um the the court to rule the way it's going to go. Wait for it to go up to the Supreme Court.
00:18:47
Speaker
And then you start doing it again. Yep. At some point, the but to me, the solution... when the Next time when the when the ah Democrats are in court and they pack the pack the courts, or next time they got power, they pack the courts, and then you'll never have anything again.
00:19:01
Speaker
That's just what's happening. And what's the difference of ignoring a judge order? You know what? we can Because we can save the republic. destroying the republic? No. It's kind of like it's kind ofing borrowing to get out of debt. By getting rid of their ways to cheat.
00:19:18
Speaker
By cheating. Yeah. Okay. If you, that' that's what you think it is. It feels like to me. i don't think it is. Just follow, follow the law. They've blocked you. Yeah. On a different case, but you, you so because of the different case, you can just ignore this one. No, it's not. It's a different case. Okay. All right. So now, now all you gotta do is wait for the Supreme court to rule in your favor because you know, they're going to, and then you go on and guess, then you don't have to burn the corner of the house down. 15 years. It's only temporary though
00:19:49
Speaker
I mean, it was i don't I don't see, i don't see, it it a
00:19:56
Speaker
it's racist. So that's the you're going to pull it back. The judge says it is. What about the 160,000 Ukrainians that trying get The that's details, Tom. They're white. No, they're not white. They're Slavic. In addition, ah you know, i people think I'm white, but I'm a Slav.
00:20:16
Speaker
In addition to the migrants in Haiti, haiti Homeland Security at Kristi Noem also terminated protections for 600,000 Venezuelans, 60,000 people from Honduras, again, brown people, more brown people, Nicaragua and Nepal, more brown people, and, I'm sorry, 160,000 Ukrainians. a whole...
00:20:35
Speaker
oh that kind of throws a hole
00:20:40
Speaker
wrenching your machine. Oh, I think the Ukrainian thing, we should go back to the 1990s and get rid of some of those. Some of the Russians too, man, those was evil Russians.
00:20:50
Speaker
Same thing. They're not, but ah you know what I mean. they're Yeah. you know some of them No, I think they're awful. Well, I think... And I have some very good yeah Ukrainian friends, but ah ah the little network of...
00:21:09
Speaker
non-tax paying business owners that there are. And there should be an into that. I don't know. I, these are just, these are just, just people, Tom.
00:21:20
Speaker
Let's, let's listen to a report from ah ABC six. He says out of what Springfield area and Dayton, maybe. And let's, let's hear, cause they had a prayer service and there's, there's been some tears.
00:21:34
Speaker
should This judge's order is exactly what the folks who gathered in Springfield yesterday prayed for, an extension of that TPS deadline, although it's not clear how long it will last.
00:21:49
Speaker
These are just people who are here because their lives are in danger and they're really helping our community. they ah They have done so much. to help us grow. it Pastor Carl Ruby says he has about 170 refugees from Haiti who attend his central Christian church. Church members who he says were petrified of being ripped away from their loved ones and sent back to Haiti. They are all afraid. They're terrified.
00:22:15
Speaker
They are. They're terrified that they're not to get free stuff. They're not going to get free stuff. They're just not coming out. Ruby was driving home when he heard the news. And I pulled off the side of the road and wept. He quickly shared that news with Haitian members of his church. I started right then calling some of them and telling them,
00:22:31
Speaker
And then there was weeping on that end of the phone. The mayor of Springfield in the statement said, this ruling provides clarity and stability for families who are already part of our community. Total clarity. reflects the reality that many individuals are working, paying taxes, raising families, and contributing every day to the life of our city. Maintaining that stability matters because unnecessary disruption creates uncertainty that serves no one.
00:22:55
Speaker
We respect the judicial process and remain committed to the well-being of the people who call our city home. Carl Ruby hopes this means Springfield will avoid major ICE enforcement, at least for now.
00:23:08
Speaker
He knows it's not a permanent solution. We've got to have comprehensive immigration reform. Donald Trump has done some great things. He's the first president. He's really taking border security seriously. That's really important. But when you go beyond that and you start arresting people that you don't even have a warrant for... oh And can storm into town with masks and, you know, dress like you're ready for World War III.
00:23:32
Speaker
That's not helping anyone. It's not helping anyone. It's helping me. It's helping me. Maybe the 170 you have in your church are the, the you know, the nice ones.
00:23:43
Speaker
But I don't i don't think you've got 15,000. I would love to hear from his ah ah congregation. Oh, they were there and in in mass supporting and praying. oh Oh, it's one of those. Oh, it's... What what was was this, like, a Lutheran thing?
00:24:00
Speaker
it is doesn't say what church he's... Do they have a rainbow flag? doesn't say what church he's in. I did not see any rainbow flags, but i actually, this is just the ah YouTube video that was pulled up while I was looking at stuff.
00:24:15
Speaker
I'm even sure what church it is. ah But yeah, I think it's one those progressive Progressive United. Yes, it's those progressive churches, yeah. Is it progressive United? no no. Oh, I thought you so you looked it up. Is it really progressive?
00:24:31
Speaker
Progressive under God. Yes. And he, he wept and suck a dick. We'll take you. ah Yeah. yeah
00:24:41
Speaker
While you're weeping. So temporary status definitely, like i guess the question is, do they does ICE need a warrant to arrest an illegal alien? I don't think they do.
00:24:51
Speaker
okay No. they All they need is an order of deportation and your name on it. Yeah. No, they can't just go busting in your house unless...
00:25:03
Speaker
they have probable cause to know, to think that that that person is in the house. They might be able to just bust in your house. ah Well, I see somebody running in your house. steve I think it depends on whether this is a wanted criminal, but not just ah when I say criminal, I mean like somebody wanted for a, Oh, has a warrant for doing some, something yeah like maybe didn't show up to court after, you know, of some felony they committed.
00:25:33
Speaker
That type of thing. Yeah. I think that's... I mean, masks and it's not... I mean, I don't know. I just didn't know which way to go with this guy. As far as I know, this pastor is trying to protect pedophiles and rapists. Well, he has, think, a skewed view of the community because he's got a couple of them that go his church and maybe they're super nice, but...
00:25:58
Speaker
To say that they're all here just helping, it they're they're dragging down your community in many ways. And I'm sorry, i'm I'm not saying immigrants drag your community down, but when you dump 15,000 from one place to another place, it completely changes the culture of that community forever. Well, that was the idea.
00:26:16
Speaker
Right. It just change changed the voting demographic almost, almost like they wanted to change the voting demographic. Yeah. 30 years down the line, it's ah it's a completely different voting demographic. What about all the jobs that What do they do for work?
00:26:30
Speaker
I can't imagine Springfield, Dayton, an area has a a overwhelming number of jobs. that yeah I mean, it's a small town in rural Ohio. You know, it's it's Springfield is one of those, the factory shuts down and have the people lose their job kind of place, or it was at one time. Well, i I think it was a lot of, you know, Springfield had a huge problem with drugs and just people not wanting to work.
00:26:56
Speaker
So they bring these, you know, the Haitians in some of these factories were able to reopen, but only because they're paying wages that are aren't, you know, somebody wouldn't wouldn't want to work for.
00:27:11
Speaker
Low wages, driving the wage low. Yeah, maybe, maybe. Well, I think then the next story we'll, we'll talk about what those, maybe some of those wages are, but know. I definitely don't think, yeah do you think Christy Noem went through in that? Yep. Give me all the brown countries. Let's get all those people out first. It's like, come on.
00:27:32
Speaker
Yeah. Tell us, tell us what you think.
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00:27:35
Speaker
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00:28:13
Speaker
right. Keep it moving. And we'll, we'll stay on the, uh, immigrant or illegal immigrant angle and go on to this next one. Cause this one hoof this week was, was, I had this last week, I think, and I had to hold it back because i had to look, look through it.
00:28:27
Speaker
And it started with this town hall article, townhall.com article. Um, It is exclusive. Bombshell footage claims judge can be bought with bribes in Ohio immigration courts.
00:28:43
Speaker
And I went, oh, really? So this is a 25-minute undercover video. of There's multiple different times and locations that this reporter has done this. So Town Hall basically had a reporter go in infiltrate this Business? it It's unclear.
00:29:09
Speaker
It's kind of unclear what business is. Is it a front? Does she get this person have a front? But anyway, so he's got under under hidden camera footage of migrants being taken care of in Ohio. um I guess they're from... um
00:29:26
Speaker
Moratorian. Yeah, it says it in the clip. you Pronounce it better. Someplace in Africa, I believe. Moritania. Moritania, that's it. um And this is in Lockland, Ohio. and guess Little Africa. little as As put in the clip. and That's not our terms. That's the 60-year-old white ladies. No, that's she and true, though. she said That's what they call it. Yeah, that's what that's what she calls it, Little Africa. I don't think she calls it that. they call I think it's on the map now.
00:29:53
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Official maps, Little Africa. So the footage includes, yeah, I think, is it, wait, what? i want look I want to see that. that's They put a zebra there. um Oh, oh that I seen that. oh I just thought it was a ah nature preserve or something. Nope, it's Lachlan.
00:30:09
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ah Footage includes allegations ah that some migrants are being coached. Oh, come on. ah How to navigate the asylum system, encouraging to fabricate claims and to meet to meet legal thresholds.
00:30:23
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Again, go out and watch this video because it's A, will infuriate you. But it it to me, it answers a lot of questions like, how do they get away with this? How does this happen? What's the, but how how corrupt is the system? And I still, am ah ah half of our federal government, half of our federal spending is corruption.
00:30:41
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Half of that, half of the federal budget is corruptched corrupt payouts. i every The more I learn, the more I'm convinced half are, half of our our budget every, every year is corruption.
00:30:55
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And I think what a couple noticed when these we play these clips, I got four of them here. So she, these people are very proud of what they're doing. And when the first clip, it's going to basically starts with this guy, the reporter, who's got a hidden camera on talking to one of the people that helps out.
00:31:10
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is I think they, say her name doesn't really matter so it's like she's like a mid 60s late 50s early 60s white lady helping he's he's donating water cindy rice cindy rice race or race and that's how this clip starts so we'll just start off with that is there a way to i can help the the newcomers the the more the people from noritania Oh, we got them all here too. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Did you guys, you guys are the ones that kind of took care of them? Yeah. Oh, bless you. My um my and my best friend, two game ones. They've been here for a little while now. Best friends will be here.
00:31:53
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Maybe a year or so. Oh my gosh. They've been um populating over here. You guys been able to handle that? um First it was overwhelming, but now we can't. How's your friend's boyfriend adapting?
00:32:07
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Long pause. um He's staying with us right now. But see, he he has his own place too. He's got a place with four or five other guys that he pays his part of the rent for. But he comes and stays with her. Right, right, right. That's how Mulberry may be. Yes, Lachlan. I call it Lil Africa. She calls it Lil Africa. call it Lil Africa. Right.
00:32:31
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because they stand out everywhere. They're all over the place. Right, right, right, right. And, and, uh, well, it is what it is. And fine. Welcome to America. Did they work? She got a job?
00:32:45
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She gets in the papers. She does. Oh, they get in the papers to work. She helps them. She helps them. All right. Is there a way to help with that? Mama. Hello, Mama. Do they need work? He's talking yeah he's talking about He knows but about Street. knows about all this shit. all So Mama is Patricia Golder.
00:33:07
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so mama is patricia golder And I don' know she's Jamaican or something She just seems like she has a Jamaican accent. That name has to be fake, right? us I mean, good chance. Golder from somebody in was with with her accent. I'm not sure. It's like a Jewish name or something. that's I don't know. That's weird. We're from Jamaica. She sounds like she's from from Jamaica. Yeah, it sounds like she's from Jamaica.
00:33:29
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And that's what this lady introduces the reporter to Patricia Golder, who is basically running this scam. And this next clip,
00:33:40
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Patricia starts explaining kind of what, what she does. And that's kind of what we started talking about. In this clip, she's going to let you, she's going to talk about how they, how they, how she, they coach these people.
00:33:56
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you know, to scan the system. And this is just scratching the surface. Again, it's 25 minute video, so can't get it all in here, but this is just scratching the surface. Let's go with clip two here. This is how ah ah it starts.
00:34:12
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So you've been over on Mulberry? I haven't been there. I just, you know, I heard that, you know, and I think I saw some people coming in. That's a big effort. I almost was going to bring the water directly there, but somebody said, don't do that. The what? I was going to bring the water directly in there, but they said, no, no, no, no. We're talking about maybe getting them some work. Yeah, yeah, that's what I'm going to do. And then the question is, can we, do they have papers or not? Some of them have paper, some of them. Some of them don't have paper. Okay. And what we could do for the one that wouldn't have paper, we could take cash. Okay. And then, like we can ask the session and say they volunteer. Say that again? Oh, say that they're volunteer. I guess can answer they volunteer, or you pay them. I hope there's other people doing it that way too. Yes, some people do it. Is there like a big company that they can work for?
00:34:59
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There's like couple companies taking them, but I have to sign for them. You have to sign for them. Which companies are taking them? Maybe I know people there. Yeah, have to say I can't do that because they cannot strip it that part. That's because of the ice. The ice. They don't have to drink. Right, right, right. Yeah, because ice will go there and take them away. Ice don't play. Right. Ice don't play. Anywhere. Another radar. Where? They have to work after the radar. Another radar. They don't have to people work.
00:35:24
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because they don't have the paperwork. I thought they were legal. People would tell me they're legal. No. Heck oh no when they go to When you go to Columbus, it's a court. There you go. You go to Columbus, you ask you questions. And they ask you, what do you want to stay in the United States of America?
00:35:39
Speaker
How you come here? And you tell them how you come here. They ask you, if you go back to your country, what will happen to you? If you don't have sense, and tell them, say, okay, they will kill me.
00:35:50
Speaker
Right. then they send you eyes back if you come with some little silly things they send you back right but if you can have something i say okay i can't go back because i'm gay and my country don't aspirate gay so they're going kill me right how did they get have to stay how'd they get here then in the first place How much did it to get here?
00:36:20
Speaker
coyote and when they come they cross that water that's where they made it chainley i human bodies for his others many people died many people how much is it there cost to get here Well, some pay of a $5,000 because you have to pay domestic and every care cause the matter.
00:36:40
Speaker
From Panama Canal all the way up to the border. Guess who doesn't control the Panama Canal anymore and for the past many years? The United States. Guess who wants to get the Panama Canal back?
00:36:54
Speaker
You know, that's one of Trump's pushes, right? Oh, yeah. I think this is one of the reasons. got it back, don't we? I don't know. I don't know. I think i think we made them an offer that we're going to repair it, and but we're going to control it. you What? An offer they couldn't refuse?
00:37:10
Speaker
i No, i'm just kidding. I don't know the details. I know we kicked we we got them to kick out China, basically, out of there. Yeah, there was a big something else. China was getting putting ports on either end of it or something, either side it.
00:37:22
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Anyways, this um this story is a little shocking. do you got more on it? Yeah. ah Okay, I'll let you go. out on but Yeah, I got more. So that's what we, so she starts off with just how they coach them.
00:37:34
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And they're, I kind of already knew this was happening. This is kind of the NGO kind of stuff. Oh, no, tell them this. Tell them you're gay. Tell them you're trans. Tell them you're gonna die when you get back. And then they can't send you back. Legally, they're not supposed to, I guess.
00:37:47
Speaker
And that's, but that's just, I mean, that's the innocent part. That's actually the very mild, as infuriating as that may be, The next part is even, again, she doesn't want to say much.
00:38:02
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And you can see though now the next clip is going to be, i think they're in her kitchen or something. And it seems like they've become friends because now she's very proud of what she does.
00:38:14
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Very proud that her brother taught her how to do this. And how much money she makes to what we were talking about before. Well, how does she make money?
00:38:25
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gotta say it was easy to get her to talk. geez Very easy because she's very proud about, she's very proud of about what she does. And that's usually where people go wrong. They want to tell. And a little dumb. They want to tell you how smart they are by acting really stupid and running your mouth.
00:38:41
Speaker
but This guy's looking for labor and he's like, um maybe I get him jobs and he's donating he's donating things to the cause. So he's really befriended him. It seems like, I'm not sure, it doesn't really explain how long this went on, but it's um it seems like multiple different times, she had different hairdos, different locations, all kinds of stuff.
00:39:01
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And 25 minute video that they cut up goes on to a point where she's talking to one of the guys from Africa And he's explaining to him how they get they get in with some of theses companies. And she names the companies.
00:39:18
Speaker
i know and I think she made in some these clips, but it's Tyson is one of the companies. Of course. And then some ah Brush Foods or something like that. Yeah, I think they should be taking a license, business license, away from these places.
00:39:31
Speaker
And I can't imagine how long this is going to take to get down or up the ladder, I should say. Yeah. Really? Did Tyson have a visit? what Okay. This is something that we've known about.
00:39:45
Speaker
We've known about yeah for a very long time. So it's like now we know who, now I can't imagine Tyson's has had, they had a visit yet. Didn't we close the Tyson plant down in ah somewhere in Iowa or something like that? i don't know if it was Tyson. Yeah, short time they shut it down. Yeah. yeah And got, you know, got rid of a ton of employees. Like, so they know about this.
00:40:06
Speaker
Right. Oh, yeah. I'm not. Yeah. They know what happens. It's now you have names and faces to to find. mean, it's one thing to go to Tyson and and round up a few people. But to find the actual people that are supplying Tyson would be to me.
00:40:19
Speaker
This is what this is what we're talking about. Yeah. No, this is small. Potatoes. i think they need to oh yeah I think most of it most of this happens ah across the border from like found you know from like money coming from the Soros Foundation and stuff.
00:40:36
Speaker
Well, it seems she's self-funded. Yeah, well, I mean. So she she she gets she gets this guy. You'll see it the it' ah in the article is the guy in the blue hoodie that's in the picture of the the clip of the article. She talks to him and with the guy, you know, in in her kitchen and it explain kind of breaks down how it happens.
00:40:55
Speaker
She gets them jobs. For example, the hospital in the area will hire some of these illegals. They get $24 an hour. To start.
00:41:07
Speaker
That's pretty good. Yeah. She gets $4 an hour. oh Oh, I see. She's self-funded. Yeah. Well, I understand what you're saying here. I mean, this this is shocking because it's happening right here in our in our backyard.
00:41:21
Speaker
I just think this is... maybe maybe not I'm not as much shocked as I am just intrigued on how they get it done. ah Okay. i mean, but I think most people find it shocking that, like, you hear this kind of stuff happening, but I think a lot of this stuff happens across the border before they come into the States.
00:41:43
Speaker
Meaning, like, I think they're taught how to... but could be stay in the country and stuff like that. And maybe, you know, they probably still need help finding a job. So then these, these type of criminals are out there helping them find jobs and making a, probably a pretty good buck.
00:42:03
Speaker
Yeah. I mean, I mean, you know, and she gets, let's say she gets a hundred people jobs and she's getting $4 from each person. That's pretty good. But the shocking part actually comes next and it goes further than that. That's where the judges come in.
00:42:17
Speaker
So how are these people becoming, they're getting green cards, they're getting social security numbers. How are they getting those? Well, I mean, according to this undercover video, judges are being bribed.
00:42:32
Speaker
and More activist judges or just judge greedy judges? um Well, let's talk about it. Let's hit the clip and then we'll talk about it. This next one, yep. See all these names?
00:42:45
Speaker
Yep. I have them in my book. I go to the bar like you were by church. I say, you work on this date?
00:43:00
Speaker
You like? Let me see my colleague that he's doing his phone. Yeah? What's your problem? I say, oh, God love these boys, man.
00:43:11
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I want you let them back here, where they work from.
00:43:17
Speaker
You better give me 50 G, 50 Gs. The judge says that? Yes, get little thing. so I'll pause here because it's a little hard to hear this part. The next part's better. Clip is off. Yeah.
00:43:28
Speaker
Next part is, next part's better. So she's explaining how she goes to the bars where the judges drink, even though she doesn't drink. And she buddies up next to him. She has a list of names. She asks, are you going to be working on this day?
00:43:41
Speaker
And, you know, and then he says, okay, what's your problem? And she says, I got to get all these boys in. They work for me. And he goes, okay. Counts the numbers up. Goes, it'll be 50
00:43:53
Speaker
Right. So who, but let's go to the next. key going you't want be a for bill just let me you come on How does the judge get paid? to be good Oh, no, no. You've got to help me. I'm going to come back and say, what we have this deadline.
00:44:07
Speaker
We need 50,000 hours. And then they'll just count them down. Calculate. You give me this, you give me this, you give me this. That'll make money. Right.
00:44:18
Speaker
We have 40,000. What you mean? $50,000. So everybody got to pay $200,000. But then you have to do the dangerous part of getting it too to the judge. Exactly.
00:44:30
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So you're like, it see something they call it, Lime? Lime. What's it called, Lime? Lime. Oh, it's an app. You can't chase back. So you send it through Lime. You send it through Lime.
00:44:47
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Tell me, everything's traceable. The line's not traceable. So that's what she does. And then they pay, she charges each. So she gets them jobs, takes a cut of the pay so that they can pay her $1,200 or whatever it costs to get your social security number.
00:45:04
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And she explains later on that, okay, if you get somebody in social security number in Cleveland and you send them to Cleveland, You can reuse that name, the social security number, but you got to send them to Cincinnati.
00:45:15
Speaker
You can't, you can't send them too close. Right. But they don't have a system that like communicates. I don't know. It doesn't seem that way or doesn't do it very well.
00:45:28
Speaker
Because they don't want it to, or because just, we don't have the funds to do that. I would think the want yeah is more of the lack of wanting. Um, and,
00:45:42
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So she goes on to explain the next clip that how, how many judges are involved. She's got names. She names names, but they censor it out.
00:45:54
Speaker
But there's one, they mentioned something that I wanted to dig a little bit further into real quick, but let's just go, let's finish this. A minute and 20. Is it this judge right here? Which one? I can't see it.
00:46:07
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see if you want after to them one of these judges see want contact another day one Talk to one? You only to talk to Because all talk to each other. i let it talk thats what you have and everyone anddely a little ca but have you ever talked to you talking ka no gave me the number back they asked me okay She's in charge of the entire, and she's the lead judge in the... You go back in her phone now, you don't say she's... You do like this?
00:46:45
Speaker
What's...
00:46:47
Speaker
This court paper they have that it idea this is this is a little bit later on, I guess, and they they there's he's talking to over the phone and he's kind of going, well, which judge should i talk to? And she's like go to the top one. And he's like, wait, what?
00:47:05
Speaker
It's important to me to look them up. If I found out who is a georgia the judge, then I can call the phone number and tell them this person going to this judge, S and Y, the dead. everything You think you could get judged? anybody me when me don't time to him is anything i but i ran on here you're free to sending about to and this is what we getting to the megraphography so yeah with me i we don't You're not afraid to go after the the the one on the top?
00:47:31
Speaker
if you would do that like the chief immigration judge in the country man you' fucking gangster talk to anybody who the chief immigration judge in the country and he keeps saying she
00:47:47
Speaker
She has her phone number. That's the ah implication here.
00:47:55
Speaker
Who's the top immigration lawyer? Why don't they give the name of the judge?
00:48:03
Speaker
Not sure. I would only guess to say... these are just allegations from somebody, you know, you're going to post that without verifying. i don't know. Yeah. Yeah. libel Laws, maybe something like that. I don't know if there is that much. He's a reporter, but they're unverified.
00:48:19
Speaker
Oh, okay. But I mean, you could always say yeah something like alleged. You know, it is alleged. I don't know. Yeah, I guess I don't. kind of struck my head and scratched my head about that too.
00:48:32
Speaker
But that's where I came in. I was like, wow you do you want, do you you don't know for sure. And you're go to throw all that. Who knows what, you know, I don't know. You start making allegations like this and people start showing up at judges houses. I don't Stupid, but I don't know. Some overly cautious, we been I guess.
00:48:47
Speaker
So this is from town hall, you know, media from, ah which is from Washington, D.C., I think. Yes, I do not, this is not a local, it's not local, yeah.
00:48:58
Speaker
and Amy Curtis is the author of this. And so when is, when is the FBI going to look into this? Yeah, that's, that's what saying. i hope somebody's getting visits soon.
00:49:09
Speaker
How far, that's what was saying earlier, how how long before this gets up the ladder and people start getting arrested? Because you've got names, you've got faces, you've got, I'm sure there's more video.
00:49:21
Speaker
Who's the top judge?
00:49:25
Speaker
Who is top immigration judge in...
00:49:39
Speaker
No, that's not... No. Misspelled. Who is top immigration judge? Teresa Riley, who was just appointed ah in December of 25.
00:49:54
Speaker
By who?
00:49:58
Speaker
it would be by Trump. I don't know if that's how. But the previous leadership was also. Cleveland and Detroit. Previous leadership was Sheila McNulty.
00:50:11
Speaker
Yeah. McNulty. McNulty? Get out of here. It's not McNulty, is it? I don't even see that name. yeah but I'm sorry. I'm looking in Google. I just, who is the top immigration judge in the country? And she replaced another woman.
00:50:24
Speaker
So Teresa Riley was appointed in December, ah serving as acting chief immigration judge and holding various leadership positions in Cleveland and Detroit.
00:50:36
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So she's a homie.
00:50:41
Speaker
Huh? But it might not be her. And the reason I say that, is in part of this video, she, this Patricia lady starts talking about her brother who is now a fugitive because he, he expired his 30 days to leave the country expired.
00:50:58
Speaker
And what was that? That was like a year ago when they put that, Hey, you can self-deport. You got 30 days of self-deport, right? Didn't they do that? Yeah. I'm thinking December of 25. This is, this is all filmed before December of 25.
00:51:13
Speaker
Oh, you know what? You know who ah initial appointment was? William Barr in 2019. Let see here.
00:51:28
Speaker
ah The attorney general. Yeah, but he said top immigration lawyer. Top immigration judge, not lawyer. Yeah. And it says here, at least the Google says, it says, what's her name? Teresa is now appointed in 25, but previous leadership was Sheila McNulty.
00:51:44
Speaker
So it was it was another woman. So I don't know. is Is it this person? i I don't know. She was appointed by William Barr and then probably appointed by her permanent appointment in December, 2025.
00:51:57
Speaker
Chief immigration judge under federal regulations. The attorney general is the, so who's our attorney general? ah Is that Pam? Yeah.
00:52:08
Speaker
Yeah. Oh, yeah. Right here it says Pam Bondi. So she was appointed by Pam Bondi. Thank you. But Teresa was. Yeah.
00:52:19
Speaker
Yeah, i don't think but but I don't think we're talking about Teresa. but Oh, okay. I think we're talking about the one before Teresa.
00:52:29
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i guess oh okay. I see what you're saying. Like i say in the video, she complains or she mentions her brother's now a fugitive because he, they gave a 30 day notice to self-deport. He, he's still here.
00:52:39
Speaker
And that was like beginning of Trump's presidency. Okay. So I think these videos are maybe, they could be as much as a year old. I see. Okay. I'm sorry. If you want, yeah, no, it's fine. that's I don't know if I explained it correctly, but there's multiple videos over timeframe we don't know because there's, they they cut in out a bunch of different, different times. You can tell like one time he's the one in clip we're looking at he's, he's videoing the phone that he's talking to her over the phone when she says, you know, a bunch of that stuff. So I don't know. I don't know. And I'm not saying that's either one of these people.
00:53:11
Speaker
yeah it's before Yeah, you were right. Sheila McNulty. that's regional deputy chief of immigration judge. Right. Chief of but they say top immigration judge in the country. Did he mean in the state?
00:53:23
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he made a He may have misspoke and said in the state because this is all about Ohio. And she's talking this whole time about judges in Ohio and, you know, moving people around Ohio. so maybe he misspoke. I don't know But it is coincidence. Is it a coincidence that the last two were women and he's talking about a she and the top judge and blah, blah, blah. so Merrick Garland appointed her. So yeah, previous administration. yeah That would fit.
00:53:46
Speaker
but I don't know. I guess. and Yeah, we're we're just kind of doing a quick search here. But ah yeah, Sheila McNulty, she was a Biden administration appointee.
00:53:58
Speaker
So check out this article. They do a good job explaining the article, explaining the video in the article. They do leave out a lot of it because it is a 25-minute article or 25-minute video. I think ah it's worth it's well worth a watch, especially you since you can they have the subtitles and I apologize for the eclipse, but I thought I would give it a try, but some of it came through. like I couldn't even hear some of the stuff. so Well, was she was low and also she's got thick accents. Well, it's all the background noise. That's the worst. i think that was a... ah He must have gone to the O'Keefe Media Group to figure out how to do sound.
00:54:32
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yeah Yeah. my what What do they use for the noise reduction thing on this show? I'm not sure. Some Adobe thing. don't know if you have to pay for it. got to check that out. If it's Adobe, you do. i Probably could ah Probably be definitely. I do pay for Adobe for some stuff, but I think, I think it could have used a little reduction. But anyway, you get the picture. Go watch the videos. it It is, it's quite shocking. Like you said, and that's when I get to the, when they're talking about,
00:54:57
Speaker
She had a list of, I mean, five or six, you couldn't see names because it was flashed in the camera. I'm sure at some point there was a better shot of it, maybe. i hope. But he she basically was saying, you only gotta to talk to one of them because they all talk to each other. Right. If you get one, you've got them all.
00:55:14
Speaker
So I was like, oh, great. um And but to keep on keep on judges. Oh, wait. No, that's it. Keep on judges.
00:55:24
Speaker
Okay. We're going to do a quick, quick follow-up to our favorite judge, Judge Celebrese. Judge Celebrese conveniently changed her plea. If you remember, she is under, or is in on trial for, actually, i think the trial is. It's over.
00:55:43
Speaker
she's She's waiting for the yeah judge, or the sentencing. Right. it's for some, it's not even for what we have talked about, really. It's not the original thing. This is for deviating funds, I think. of Well, what not deviating, but. For during or misrepresenting something on paperwork or something to that effect.
00:56:02
Speaker
ah I'm trying to find a. Record tampering. Record, that's it. That's the official thing, but. That's what kind of got her. She changed her plea guilty and she's really ah one of the only reasons to do that is because they know that she's not going to get jail time.
00:56:21
Speaker
Yeah. And the the judge, the judge has already said, i'm reserving the right to give you jail time, but probably just going to give you probation for three to five years. Yeah. But I thought the quote of the story really was this one, which it was the Cuyahoga County prosecutor's office who said, ah today's plea illustrates that nobody is above the law.
00:56:44
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integrity on Integrity on the bench is essential. Anything less undermines the very foundation of our courts. That's Lexi Bauer, the communications manager of the Cuyahoga County prosecutor's office.
00:56:58
Speaker
Has justice been done? What, what, what, Well, I think she pled guilty mainly because they probably had so much on her that there was no way to win the trial.
00:57:09
Speaker
So she pled guilty. and you know it's not a I don't think it's a plea deal, but it's kind of, yo kill you'll get lighter sentence. Yeah, I guess that's true. that She didn't really plea. She just changed her sentencing. But they knew. So she kind of knows that she's going to get a light sentence, and that's maybe why. um But how does this deter anybody else from doing it?
00:57:33
Speaker
Well, she's not a judge anymore. And they took they took away her ah license to practice law for a year. For two years, but probably be a year. Yeah, exactly.
00:57:44
Speaker
I'm sorry. I mean, that's a career ender, basically. Yeah. ah I think jail time would definitely set it. Yeah, it'd be nice. for ah Well, I don't really care too much. I mean, her career, she's not a judge. That's the most important thing. As far as I'm concerned, every lawyer is a Crook.
00:58:04
Speaker
So I don't know. It's all right with me. Except for lawyers that listen to Crook and Rivercast. Those, those people are good. Yeah. Okay. Um, no, I, I say that in general. I just think yeah a lot of, broad coming broad brushes but, uh, um, six months would be cool, I guess. Um,
00:58:24
Speaker
I don't think she needs more than that. Yeah. Even ah it'll be one of those cushy prisons. That's fine. I get it. She doesn't need to to like hard prison, but taking your personal freedom away really sets it. and And then setting her as an example is what I'm kind of getting at. They're not going to do that.
00:58:37
Speaker
It's a good old girls club and good old boys club. I think she should go to a hard prison for six months. I mean, she should be like the a lonely ah white dot in the field. Yeah.
00:58:52
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Hopefully she gets ah she gets put in a share shares herself with a trans woman. Oh. Make it even more exciting. and don't I don't think she's a woke judge. That'd be good for a woke judge.
00:59:07
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Still. ah Still be funny. Okay. So that's a little wrap up. She changes her changed her, whatchamacallit. Now she's guilty. She's going to get a slap on the wrist and hopefully we'll to talk about her anymore.
00:59:21
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I just don't want to see that name anymore. So it's been, so it's all my life. Yeah. And I'm old. but Yeah. yeah Public office and now this. Mm-hmm. Buildings.
00:59:32
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Oh yes. Right. But they sold it. Aren't they, is that the one they're selling or no? yeah I can't remember. Isn't it? Okay. Uh, yeah, I think so. All right. Moving on, moving on. oop where did that go? There it goes.
00:59:43
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Moving on to, well, you know, it's been a couple shows in the first of the year and this is as long as I can wait time without talking about school funding. Couldn't hold back any longer. And I built up a couple of stories in in the ah and the show notes here.
00:59:59
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And one is, i think, kind of interesting because some of the cities in Ohio, I think, might actually be getting the picture, getting the message, I should say, from their constituents.
01:00:12
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And I'm wondering what if they see the writing on the wall here or Is it just a way to like, cause I feel like you're going to get double screwed with this.
01:00:27
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Are they going to lower your, talk about the story. you We'll talk about it afterwards. Yeah. A frustrating as frustration mounts over repeated property tax defeats, school districts across Ohio, including new Philadelphia city schools and Parma city schools are increasingly turning to earned income taxes as an alternative to funding schools, funding themselves.
01:00:48
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um The districts are preparing income tax issues for the May ballot, according to WOSU. WOSU, yeah. Earlier this month, New Philadelphia schools in Tuscarora County voted to place a 1.5% earned income tax proposal before voters after four unsuccessful attempts to pass property tax levies.
01:01:15
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we've been We've been at the ballot four times. a Treasurer Julie Irwin said, our public, our community has voted down 60 to 40.
01:01:30
Speaker
And they are they have made it well known that they cannot afford it. There you see. They finally got it after four tries. 60, 40. That's a lot of these. That's, that's in my, in my community, it's, it's about that. It's usually you almost 70, 30 at times.
01:01:42
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I think they're talking about your community, right? No, I wouldn't. I wouldn't, I don't know what you're talking about. Erwin added ah that farmers and senior citizens in the district, especially cannot afford the increase in property taxes, which, which prompted the district to examine alternatives.
01:02:01
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Yeah, I think, and they bring up in the earlier article that especially farmers, because they have lots of land, which would incur large and property income taxes. and these You know what?
01:02:12
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Or property taxes. number They get a good discount on property taxes. And I mean, maybe if yeah I'm talking, you know, you would have to have hundreds of acres maybe. But, like you know, a small farm, it's not that bad.
01:02:23
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They got the whole CAV, C-A-U-V, which I forget what it stands for. from what What I remember is pretty lame, though, isn't it? Is it really that? I know, it's pretty good. at that Does it? Yeah. Well, you know, like if you if you're running a farm that's on razor thin margins and you got 400 acres, i don't I don't know. That's a little.
01:02:43
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Literally almost quoted it. Rural communities often have farmers who own lots of property. And so the value of the property is very high and yet their income isn't. Yeah, it's, I mean, if they're running on, you know, it's not easy to be a farmer. So you get a bad season that could really just screw you. but um Well, it's a good point, though. So they have a they have a discounted rate, basically, right? There's COV. It's it's um it's an agricultural ah discount. And like when I was looking at properties, I was only looking at like between, let's say, 10 to 20 acres, 10 to 30 acres, really. And it's it's significant. I mean, it cuts it in half, basically. Okay.
01:03:24
Speaker
But I mean, if you have 400 acres, that's, you know, that's, that's a half isn't enough. Even if it's, I don't think it's quite a half, but it's a good, good bit. Well, whether it's enough or not, I'm not, you know, I'm not even debating. I'm just thinking if you paid X 10 years ago and you get through your discount and you, and your property went up 60%, your prop, regardless of discount or not, it's still going to go up 60%. That's true. So they're still paying more. and you're You're right. They do get a, that's a good point. But then i think about it. Yeah. But they're still getting hammered with a 50% increase.
01:03:56
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Yeah. Of their discounted rates. Some things. Yeah. Cause it, cause it's, ah it's funny when it, when it goes into a,
01:04:05
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Property taxes are funny because it's it's like you're if you're how you're not being charged for your... You're being charged for what it's assessed for, which isn't usually what it can sell for.
01:04:17
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No. It's usually a little less. But yeah, I mean, I don't... You know, this is... And that's what and that's what we've kind of complained about is it seems as though some communities, the people adjusting the property values have some...
01:04:33
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influence or being influenced to maybe, you know, increase them a little bit more than to get to school to, you know, all that kind of stuff. Are they in cahoots together? That kind of, you know, im like no I don't know. i I think each, each county hand does it a little differently.
01:04:47
Speaker
So it's confusing. You know what I mean? Like it's, it's hard to, like, if I'm talking about somebody in Geauga, they'd handle it differently than Cuyahoga does. And it gets a summit is different and it's just all, it's confusing.
01:05:05
Speaker
So they want to go back to, they want to try something different. Yeah. And that different thing is an earned income tax to go on the ballot.
01:05:16
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And this doesn't include social security or, I forget, there was a, there was a retirement. Yeah. It wasn't really hitting retirees.
01:05:27
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Wouldn't make it worse?
01:05:31
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What do you mean? Wouldn't, What inc if you, I don't think the retirees should be paying more property taxes. They're not kids in school. No, I'm saying is property, but this, this thing, they're paying property tax currently. Yeah.
01:05:46
Speaker
Yeah. And if you switch to this model, they wouldn't be paying to prop. They wouldn't be paying into the system at all. I mean, I know know we still have property taxes. I'm just saying if you start moving to this model, you put more burden on smaller amount of people.
01:06:03
Speaker
Well, i I don't know how much smaller, but i i yeah I don't like this because it's not like you're, I don't think your property taxes are going to go down. That's where I'm getting at. i was i was wondering if they're scared because property taxes are going away, possibly.
01:06:25
Speaker
Going away or are um They are. and and some not i don't think they are, but I think, let's see.
01:06:37
Speaker
They kind already have in some ways, which they've mentioned in the article. What do you mean? So it says Parma, the board is advancing a 1.75 earned income tax credit.
01:06:48
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On top of what they got already. Parma is one of the highest taxes right earned income tax. Hold Let me finish. Okay. ah To support daily operations while also offering property tax relief by allowing three existing levies to expire.
01:07:03
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I pointed this out because my first initial was Are they really just letting them expire? Because I don't think they're allowed to renew them yeah with the current legislation. So there is some property taxes that will fall off that aren't going to be put back on because of these some of the new legislation.
01:07:20
Speaker
Right. But we're not talking about abolishing property tax. talking about some, they've changed how they can put levies on the ballot and restricted counties and and districts from doing emergency levies and all this other stuff. So there is going to be less levies.
01:07:39
Speaker
Right. Let's come with a point. Mm-hmm. But what I mean is if you go to the extreme, which is where I'd like to see is get rid of, but you get rid of property taxes. That's right. Yeah.
01:07:53
Speaker
And if you go with this model, you're putting the burden on a smaller amount of people, in my opinion. depending depends on I don't think so. because it Yeah, it depends on the community. You have more retirees in your community than you do then you do people working?
01:08:08
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That's what I'm... Yeah, yeah that's probably that again, that's a ebb and flow of society. But... ah ah You know, you could have three income earners in a home or more or two or one. you know, i think overall it's less burdened.
01:08:28
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I mean, this depends on the community. Per person. If you have an aged community, then maybe not. Yeah, again, that's... Why do retirees get to opt out of paying for services? For schools? They're not paying for services. They're paying for school.
01:08:42
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And services with the property taxes. That's property taxes. Right.
01:08:48
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But they're not getting rid of property taxes. They're just doing this to pay for schools. Right. Yeah, not yet, and I doubt ever. But ah ah hopefully... But yeah yeah, if they got rid of property taxes totally, that would that would have to be, you know, ah there would it would be calculated differently.
01:09:10
Speaker
but It would need to be, yeah. my My whole view of it is to spread it out more. I don't want to, I'll tell you the truth, I don't want retirees to be paying anything as far as property taxes go. They're on, they're most mostly on, on,
01:09:26
Speaker
income that's, you know, fixed income. I don't think they should be paying. But if you if you have a 401k that you're drawing from, you don't get local taxes off that? I don't, I don't, only get it I don't know. Not for this.
01:09:37
Speaker
Right. But I mean, if you, is it, you don't pay income taxes from that? Sure. Yeah. So why wouldn't this be part of that? Well, you already are paying. This is, this is on top of what you're already paying. Right. But they say, so you're, you're, you're paying two and a half percent right now.
01:09:52
Speaker
And now they want to add another one and three quarter percent. Yeah, depending. So I would think the additional one and three quarter would be um the retirees wouldn't be paying that, but they're already paying the 2.5%.
01:10:10
Speaker
And if it's if this is for schools, I don't think retirees definitely shouldn't be paying for this.
School Funding Debate & Tax Discussions
01:10:15
Speaker
Why? If it's just for schools. Yeah. Because they don't have kids in schools anymore.
01:10:22
Speaker
So? What do you mean, so? but yeah you shouldn't You shouldn't pay for schools. Then what's the difference between this and property tax? Well, nothing, except it would so it would spread it out over a more diverse amount of people. you like you might get you would get I already gave you my ah thought on this, yeah and you're not going to change my mind. I'm not saying i'm not trying to change your mind. I'm just saying asking why. But you're asking me why, and I already told you. they're already They don't have kids in the school system, and they don't they're mostly on a fixed income.
01:10:53
Speaker
I mean, most of them. i mean i'm not going to you know yeah I'm sure there's some retirees that are doing very well, but. Most people are on a fixed income. I don't want them pay more taxes. i'm not saying they should pay more taxes. I'm saying you you you get rid of, let's say you get rid of property tax.
01:11:07
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hey Should retirees pay? That should be a relief. To me, that's a relief. Well, if you get rid of if you get rid of property taxes, then there this has to be recalculated. this right that's what That's what I'm getting at. To me, I'm looking at this as a new a new way to look at things and to to on the road to getting rid of or severely reducing property taxes. Getting property taxes completely out of the school system.
01:11:30
Speaker
Maybe we still have property taxes for services. Yeah, I agree. This isn't that, though. this is I know, I know. more of just They're trying to figure out a different way to get money for schools. yeah And imp personally, if they did get property taxes, yeah, okay, so let's say they're paying 2.5% now, earned income tax, ah and they got rid of property taxes. Yes, everybody should, at that point, pay a little bit more.
01:12:00
Speaker
And then the people that are in that working class that are still working, that are still, ah that have, you know, kids in schools and stuff like that, younger people, then they could pay an an additional, I think they should be paying an additional amount for schools.
01:12:18
Speaker
So how, how do you, I mean, cause you, there you are paying for schools through the state. Right. Even without, but I don't think they should be. I think that's awful. Yeah.
01:12:30
Speaker
Well, it's per our constitution, the state should fund the schools. Mm-hmm. So you think only people who are in school, who have kids in spanish is school, should for school? No, i mean, I would, I'm paying, ah only working people. I think once you're retired, forget it. Oh, yeah.
01:12:47
Speaker
You know, you you already did you already did it. You put kids through school, you you worked your whole life, and then it's like, okay, keep bending me over. It's stupid.
01:13:02
Speaker
I think, and i'm not get I think everybody should pay. so I don't think everybody should pay for the services in your community. that Yeah, not towards schools. no I don't. So I just think schools are, that's what might as well have property taxes at that point.
01:13:21
Speaker
Okay. think I think, uh, think we found a ah ah good topic to discuss later on again. I'm sure we will. Cause I, I don't know. I, I, I think, uh, think it's good for everybody to have schools. and i think just had their I think once you're on a fixed fixed stin income, I don't think you should be paying school taxes. That's just how I feel. And that's how I think it should be.
01:13:41
Speaker
Well, I mean, good thing, good thing. You're wrong. Yeah. Okay.
01:13:48
Speaker
Moving on slightly, because I don't want to get past this clip because this is a good clip. I think this will, this will bring us back together, Tom, because I think I have a question for you on this, this next clip. This is a delirious school student.
01:14:00
Speaker
and Complaining about the cuts they've had to their schools because their levies keep failing. And he's, I got a question at the end. Maybe you'll, maybe you'll figure it out in the, in the, in the, during clip, but here we go, which is, here it is.
01:14:16
Speaker
The proposed cuts could mean layoffs, fewer programs, and scaled back student services. Students spoke up about how these changes could impact them. I've been in almost every club here. I've tried to attempt to do every sport from wrestling all the way to cheer. It's kind of scary to think that the thing you've spent your entire high school career pouring into and building up can be taken away.
01:14:43
Speaker
which Which one do you think he could sell that? Wrestling or cheer?
01:14:48
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and I have no idea what just happened. I tried every... What you mean? Where is that from? That's from ah just a clip I found from... ah one Looking at these articles, this is from another news story, but just thought it was funny. He's an Elyria school student that was complaining.
01:15:08
Speaker
And did you know it your high school time at your high school was a career?
01:15:15
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so all that time you've worked at your high school career for the last 18 months. Like what what the hell? What kind of people are we raising? oh my gosh.
01:15:27
Speaker
what What a little whiny little bitch. Hey, I've tried every sport. and i i haven't made any of them, but I tried all of them, even cheer. and They still won't let me in. What am going to do? I take it back.
01:15:38
Speaker
I think retirees should pay all the taxes for schools because they're the ones who raise the kids that are putting these kids into school. See, there you go. i'll See how told you we'd bring us together.
01:15:50
Speaker
i just, I couldn't handle that. I couldn't, I just thought I tried wrestling all the way to cheer. like eight You've tried every sport. Wow, you suck.
01:16:01
Speaker
oh And maybe ah maybe we'll move on quickly through this next story. This is Canton City Schools. They they approved cuts.
01:16:12
Speaker
They approved some cuts, Tom, and their people are not happy. Canton is cutting $18 million, $17.7 million or something to that effect, off their budget, which is almost...
01:16:26
Speaker
almost 9%, almost. have $180 million dollars budget and they're going to cut $17.5 million. dollars Now, what I did was a very, some very rigorous research on this topic.
01:16:41
Speaker
And when I met with the research was, i I typed a few words in into Google
01:16:47
Speaker
and, you know, what's the enrollment for Canton schools? Everybody's freaking out because they're cutting 17 million. They're going to cut all these people and poor teachers.
01:16:59
Speaker
Oh, my gosh. I think most of it's from attrition, too. A lot of it was. The last couple of years, they've been cutting attrition, but they're cutting deep. No, Tom. They're really cutting deep. they um They've gone from... Where where is it? Here it is. they've In the last 10 years, I should say...
01:17:17
Speaker
canton ohio Canton City School Districts in Ohio has experienced a significant long-term decline in student enrollment, dropping from 13,000 students in 2000 to approximately 8,000 now. Do
01:17:31
Speaker
you think if your if your class, if your enrollment gets cut by 40%, you need all the funding still? You need more funding.
01:17:40
Speaker
Oh, yeah by the way, currently they're shutting down buildings, but they're currently building two new ones.
01:17:49
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How,
01:17:53
Speaker
um, yeah, that's, that's about all have to say about that. what And what are you getting? I guess the other thing, what are you getting for your money in can? What, how do we grade schools? Do you remember? What's the best way to grade a school? Like what's the, what's that one metric that you can really just look at a school and say, whether they're doing good or bad.
01:18:10
Speaker
How many graduated, right? What's the graduation rate, right? I don't, yeah, i think so. um Canton City Schools, I think last I looked, it was 73%. Holy of their students don't graduate. More than a quarter of their kids don't graduate.
01:18:26
Speaker
What is the budget of Canton City Schools? de Oh, shit, i didn't pull that part. If I remember correctly, they were over $20,000 a student.
01:18:37
Speaker
For all their like all their grades? If you do the quick math, yeah, if you do the quick math, I think it was $180 million.
01:18:47
Speaker
Roughly 170, 180 million, something like that. But yeah, $21,000 a student.
01:18:56
Speaker
And the the reason that's so high. Yeah, retirees should be paying for that. that Everybody should be paying for that. If I got pay for it, yeah only for pre-taxed income, going to say.
01:19:11
Speaker
ah The reason that's so high Because they've increased and levies over the years as they decrease students.
01:19:21
Speaker
So now it's 20,000. Cleveland's like 19. Why can I go? I can go to a high school and in a lot of places in Ohio and pay like 12 or 13 grand to put my kid through school.
01:19:32
Speaker
Why does it cost so much in Canton? Why does it cost so much in Cleveland? Because no one's paying attention. No one's paying attention to the money that's being spent. Cut it all. Lop it off and start again. That's the only way to do it.
01:19:46
Speaker
You know who's paying attention? Retirees. Everyone's voting no. Yeah. Probably the only ones voting no when a levy comes in. So wouldn't it be better if they didn't pay any property tax and paid a lot lower tax for city services?
01:20:02
Speaker
and Because it was distributed to the entire city and not just property owners. That would be great. Yeah, that's great if they get rid of property tax. Right, and that's that's what I'm going after. i don't want i don't want just these freaking Band-Aids.
01:20:15
Speaker
Which brings us to what we haven't mentioned a while is the actstotax.org. Go to this site, actstotax.org. Go sign the petition. Get it on the ballot.
01:20:28
Speaker
make make your ah Make your opinion known because they are not very happy about it. Here is Serino. Serino. Jerry Serino, couple months ago, he yeah this is from Brian Massey's YouTube page. This is the guy one of the guys running the, I think he's lobbyistsforcitizens.com.
01:20:49
Speaker
And he's part of the group doing the ballot initiative for the acts of tax. And he just pulled this off his YouTube. This is Serino. Well, he posted it three months ago. Brian did. them Shortly after that, I'm sure this was.
01:21:02
Speaker
And um but kind of what we thought was right, what they're going to do. You can imagine property tax issues are number one are the number one issues that we're dealing with in Columbus, I think. But there's one thing, i one message that I want to share with everybody here, and it's been written about it a lot and talked about a lot, and that is the petition that's floating around to eliminate property tax, or to just to declare declare that they are it is unconstitutional. to collect property taxes is irresponsible.
01:21:36
Speaker
If you look at your tax receipts from July, take a look at all the institutions, all the groups that are levying the value of our property. okay It's not just the schools that seem that's the largest percentage for virtually every community.
01:21:52
Speaker
But we're talking about police levies, we're talking about libraries, senior citizens levies, in some cases Playroom Community College doesn't work. And I think it's an irresponsible proposal that they are floating around and they're trying to trade. Give that no weight at all. Give it no support. In fact, tell 100 people that you know that it would be ridiculous to support that. that look If it gets on the ballot, we're going to all have to work together to defeat it.
01:22:24
Speaker
Yes, tax me more. That's what i want. Tax me more. And then most recently, ah of course, we got to have our lovely governor, Michael DeWine.
01:22:35
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It would just be devastating to all kinds of local government, start starting with schools, but also police and fire and children's services and mental retardation levies. All of those would go away. And we would be in a huge crisis in the state of Ohio.
01:22:51
Speaker
a Sales tax would go up to 17, 18, 19 percent, 20 percent sales tax in the state of Ohio on products that you buy. So it would just be absolutely devastating.
01:23:04
Speaker
devastating, he says. 20% sales tax, he says. You're moron. Oh, wait, you're a douchebag, douchebag, douchebag, douchebag.
01:23:17
Speaker
Douchebag. That's our wonderful governor. So go to axthetax.org, sign the petition, go find out where it's at, get it on the ballot. Don't listen to Tom, it's going to pass, I'm telling you.
01:23:28
Speaker
Oh, if we get it on the ballot. that's It's not going to pass. Well, it's going to be fun to watch. Scare tactics already starting. Yeah. The wine scare tax. 20% income tax rate.
01:23:42
Speaker
No, that's not going to be the case. I don't think so. And as we've, as we've talked in the past many times, um,
01:23:53
Speaker
We need to hold these people accountable because $22,000 for a 73% graduation rate in Canton.
01:24:03
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Ohio Legislation on Marriage & Sports Officials
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01:24:53
Speaker
Check out what's going on in Ohio. All right. i think. You know what? um I promised people I would send a link to this. So X Ohio tax locations in their county. And I zoned out for a second here because I'm sending them the links.
01:25:13
Speaker
Oh, yeah. Sorry. I'm doing double duty. Yeah, if you go act to Act Attacks, the link we have, it goes right to the front page and i'll tell you. right. I think we got to take a peek behind this curtain, behind the door here and see what's going on down in Columbus.
01:25:28
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Critters are doing. Critter corner.
01:25:33
Speaker
These, i think I think all three of these stories, ooh, that kind creeps me out little bit. I think all three of these stories would go under what the hell, why? Really? Really, this is what you're doing in Columbus?
01:25:45
Speaker
ah Maybe one is slightly needed, possibly. i start with... This was a good lineup. Yeah. Start with SP341.
01:25:56
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SP341, passed, will make underage marriage illegal.
01:26:05
Speaker
I thought, what what? Wait, it's not? Well, it kind of is, except if you're 17 and you marry somebody who is less than four years older than you, you could still get married.
01:26:19
Speaker
Shotgun wedding. So this bill is very specific for a very specific number of people. But isn't it weird? Like how many people do this?
01:26:30
Speaker
I'm sure there are. but I mean, what's the difference between a 17 and 18 year old at this? Like, yeah I imagine it's mostly happening because somebody, they got preggo.
01:26:43
Speaker
And they want to do it right. Oh, I see. Nearly, according to 2017 report by Ohio Women's Public Policy to Network, between 2000 and 2015, nearly 4,400 girls age 17 or younger, some of the youngest 14, were married in Ohio.
01:27:01
Speaker
ah Oh, boy. Well, yeah, you get into the backwoods over there and Southern Ohio. 4,400 over years.
01:27:12
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Yeah, but I think they changed the 14-year thing little bit more recently. 300 a year? Okay. 200 and... That seems like a lot, but I guess 11 million people.
01:27:24
Speaker
People get pregnant. But as young as 14, they get married?
01:27:31
Speaker
When was... I think the last one was 2015 for 14. Okay. Oh. Yeah. So this really is is specifically if you're 17 and you want to marry somebody who's...
01:27:43
Speaker
22? Yeah. 21. You can't. But now twenty two yet now you can and they want to try to stop that. i ah Okay. I guess. I don't know. there I would think there's parents that want them to get married, especially if so want you know the girl got pregnant and they're in the church type of thing.
01:28:03
Speaker
you know In the eyes of God, they want them married. I'm okay with that. I mean... i I guess, but you know the worst reason to get married is because of a kid. yeah not Not if you're in a church and you're from a small county.
01:28:16
Speaker
I get it. I get what they're trying to do, but it it is a good sacrifice. for I mean, you're sacrificing your life for that for that child, which is great. i just it's I just think, yeah, I understand what you're saying. I think we're i think people that are growing up in in the the suburbs and urban areas don't really see a lot of this. This is a little bit more of...
01:28:38
Speaker
ah the rural area. Amish maybe even, you know? Yeah. Who knows? But they don't, this doesn't apply to them though. Probably doesn't. I don't know. Actually, they they have to get a marriage certificate, don't they?
01:28:52
Speaker
I don't know. yeah Actually, I don't know. Yeah. With Amish. don't know. And how is this going to stop anybody? Because you can still go to church and get married, especially in these little backwood type of congregations.
01:29:04
Speaker
It always, always confused me why I had to get permission to get married. Oh, I think that's just for, uh, I don't know if it's permission. I think that's just to get, make sure taxes and all that stuff.
01:29:17
Speaker
Uh, 17 year olds. Yeah. So that's, that's, that's it. That's really it. That's on that one. That's it. So, uh, kind of, but really, I mean, this is what we're doing in Columbus next is even better. I just want to they get better as they go.
01:29:28
Speaker
This next one is is kind of amusing to me because Ohio law continue, Ohio lawmakers continue to push for a bill. Oh yeah. We talked about this. Yeah. Yeah. Protecting sports officials after recent ah altercations.
01:29:42
Speaker
So I always, always. So a referee gets assaulted. Is that a different type of an assault? Yes. That's, that's of my point. Yes. How about just prosecute these people?
01:29:53
Speaker
Yeah, it's stupid. how I like it because it says this this law is going to protect. How is the law going to protect the ref? Is law going to come out on the on the court and protect the ref? No, it's not. Punching somebody, that's an assault. You can press charges.
01:30:07
Speaker
So how is this going to change anything? it's like i hate It's like hate crime. Oh, you know what? maybe Maybe the referee wouldn't have to press charges. It's just the state can't.
01:30:20
Speaker
Really, from what I can see is that HB 79, if passed, the law would mandate steeper fines and community service for anyone convicted of assaulting a sports official. Oh, okay. So it it really doesn't change. Like if if the ref doesn't want to prosecute, then it doesn't change anything. It doesn't say that, at least in the article. and i yeah That's what I'm curious about. Like maybe right now, like if somebody punches me in a bar, I have to press charges, right? Yes.
01:30:46
Speaker
Okay. So same with a ref, I would assume. Yes, probably. ah So does this make it so they don't have to, but the now the state can, like the the league can report it and then the state can go after him?
01:30:59
Speaker
It does not appear that way. doesn't, right? It does not appear that way. But rough crime is hate crime. Keep that in mind. Well, a punch in the face is hate. Trust me, I've i've had... In the moment. Yeah. Oh, yeah. that's That's always... Yeah, like, what's a hate crime? Yeah, i think I think when he was stabbing him to death, he was hating him. Yeah, I definitely don't think you need to maybe just make the crime in general more. Punching anybody... i don't know.
01:31:24
Speaker
But I really, I just think prosecuting some of these a little bit harder would probably prevent them. Maybe make an example out of some of them. i don't know. Again, I'm wondering, does the, yeah, okay. But I mean, what what did it?
01:31:38
Speaker
So it's, oh, it's mandating that the, okay. Maybe it's just mandating. Just making it because it's a ref. It's like the same thing. as so ah So if somebody punches me by a mistake in a bar, it's not worth as much as a parent punching a ref. I have cousins who did some coaching yeah ah for basketball.
01:32:00
Speaker
And he actually had to go on the court and separate a mother from attacking another kid. Not her kid, another kid.
01:32:11
Speaker
And he was a coach on the opposite team. And the ref gave him a technical because he went out on the court.
01:32:24
Speaker
The ref wasn't going to do anything, but my cousin went out there and did it. And he got, he got, the team got penalized because he saved the kid from getting swacked by this woman. Yeah. Yeah. So, you know, I guess you could, to that, to that story, you could say maybe maybe sometimes the refs deserve it, but, but he wasn't, I didn't get involved. And he's like, but the kid, these are, these are like, I mean, I think and under 10.
01:32:47
Speaker
Kids sports are so weird. Parents are so weird. Yes. I get, I get, i get it. But man, it's just not, it's not that, it's not that important.
01:32:58
Speaker
It's not your exit strategy. Don't have your kids be your your kids sports career, be your retirement plan. oh yeah That's that's where are that's a very urban way to feel it Well, yeah. You know, I think that's a lot of inner city school. well You know, you get a good basketball player. I think that is their exit strategy. Yeah. it's the art Or at least a way to get to school. A way to pay for school. Yeah. and Conveniently enough, or coincidentally enough, which is not coincidence, but and my cousin mentioned, it's only certain schools in in in the city. that And I think one of them might have been Canton. Yeah.
01:33:30
Speaker
Is that the one we talked about where the football players, where was that? No, that was mass. Was that mass? That was mass. Oh, the kids got pepper sprayed because, yeah because that kid had like a few more black kids than the other team. Apparently. Yeah. Macedonia or mass. Mass. I think I give it in my mass one. Yeah.
01:33:47
Speaker
Uh, next one again, doesn't get any better. So the next one is a HB three zero four. Again, these are all in committees and stuff. HB three Oh four. ah they want to pass legislation to extend recess for kids.
01:34:07
Speaker
We have to have legislation So we have to legislate school recess. That would be a good thing for the community to vote on, right? Or the parents to vote on.
01:34:19
Speaker
The school? Yeah, something. and yeah i get they have they want minimums and stuff. So now what the way it is now, they have a k k through 6 are required 15 minutes of physical activity a day. Two 15-minute periods. So a half hour a day. And the bill wants to extend it to K through 8, 30 minutes twice a day.
01:34:40
Speaker
Right. They want to put all kinds of stuff in there too. Like if you play sports, You can be exempt, be a waiver from PE because it's also currently high school kids have to have 120 hours of PE for their their high school career um before they graduate.
01:34:58
Speaker
And they want to open that up to more types of, not just school. Like right now, I think if you're in a football team, you don't have to take PE because you get your physical activity through practice and that stuff. And they want to expand that to like outside travel club teams, that kind of stuff.
01:35:16
Speaker
Okay. um Just, I still, i this is what they do in Columbus, people. This is what they do. I think 30 minutes twice a day for an eighth grader for recess might be a bit much.
01:35:29
Speaker
I think they could be spending that 30 minutes doing some schoolwork, probably. Yeah. For ninth grade. I think that's, I think it's okay for, ah well, it doesn't matter what I think. I don't have kids in the system. I think each school should be voting. I think for the, but I do think for the,
01:35:46
Speaker
uh, grade school kids. That's okay. Cause there's a lot of energy there for those young men. Yeah. I, I, I definitely recess is great. I just thinking of how much time they have during the day, it's already kind of limited. They've already, they're already cramming things in their schedules. It is. Cause they got, now they got, you got to do all this testing. Like, you know, we did it back when we were in school. It's now even more now, all these map tests and this and that. Oh, they're doing too much of that. I think.
01:36:12
Speaker
I think I get you're trying to balance the recess, get physical activity. I'm thinking while you're in school, you should be doing school things. Physical activity, let's let your parents handle that. I think getting, I think the grade school, especially seventh and eighth, I'm kind of like iffy on that. That's way much.
01:36:28
Speaker
That's way much. Kind of, yeah. I don't even remember having, 30 minutes is fine. I don't even remember having a recess when I was in seventh and eighth grade. No, I didn't have recess. I was in middle school. It was just from kindergarten to sixth grade for me. And, um,
01:36:42
Speaker
I think it's good to make kids. I mean, they look really soft. yeah I do. I mean, I see these boys. This isn't going to this is You know what? Make them climb. are I think some of the things they're doing is good. you know, bringing back some of those ah challenges that were taken away even when I was in school, like climbing a rope and stuff like that.
01:37:05
Speaker
yeah and yeah i think I think it's good, but i you know, this is kind of a... Yeah, it's got to be a state-mandated thing. No, it should be each each school, each community should have its own, not this broad brush. It doesn't work for every every place. Yeah, and and then the thing is, I don't, not every kid needs that. Or, you know, if I have a kid that's a total nerd in math, then I'd rather spend an extra half hour a day on math, I guess, you know.
01:37:34
Speaker
And then the other other big push was to get people who, students who play organized sports, like club sports or out-of-town sports, gives them, if they they don't have to do PE, they can have time to do schoolwork and all this other stuff. So there's there's there's a lot, there was a lot in in the article, to check it out.
01:37:52
Speaker
lot of, what you know, kids that ah do a lot in sports. There's one girl for hockey. But this is what we are paying our reps to do. Yes,
Traffic Camera Controversy
01:38:01
Speaker
that's not, doesn't seem all that important, but I guess let us know if we're wrong because I'm moving along because, oh yeah, we're running right on time, I think. So next we have, let make sure I'm following along here. Yes, Critter Corner is done. Close that door up. And next we're going to get on to this next story.
01:38:24
Speaker
I saw this come across a week or so ago, and it is a story on, Channel 3 is investigating who gets, who profits from speeding cameras. A couple weeks ago, we talked about, what did we talk about, Willoughby Hills, couple weeks ago?
01:38:41
Speaker
oh Yeah. $5 million dollars a year for the past two years. so Was it Willoughby? Was that a Willoughby or New? No, it was Willoughby. Okay. That 271 and 90.
01:38:53
Speaker
Oh, my that's right. Yeah. They've done it for the past two years. that's where And I asked, well, how does, because ODOT told the city, hey, you got some speeders in your area. And we were I was like, how do they know?
01:39:04
Speaker
what What system do they use to find that out? And they're getting, and we find out it'd be over $10 million dollars a year or $5 million a year for the past two years. And...
01:39:17
Speaker
This is, so I will look into this a little bit more. And the story kind of goes off the rails real quick as i as I did a little deep, a slight dive into it. And here, we'll just go what right with my clip here and we'll talk about it after.
01:39:33
Speaker
Our latest 3 News investigation discovered that depending on what camera catches you, if you can point it out a local mayor's company a local mayors comp a local mayor's company gets paid, racking up a well over a million dollars in speeding ticket revenue over the past few years.
01:39:47
Speaker
re newss investigators reporter Which mayor like has the story Speed trap tickets can put a serious dent in your wallet. But for Trevor Elkins, business is booming. So I bring the entire package together in a way that manages it for the municipality. Elkins was first elected mayor in Newburgh Heights in 2011, but resigned in 2022 after pleading guilty to campaign finance violations. Elkins was reelected in 2023. Seems smart. Why? But in a year and a half away from office, he developed Targeting and Solutions Limited. I had to look to use my skillset and my experience to- Skillset?
01:40:28
Speaker
Basically take care of- connections? My family. Oh. It's a traffic camera consulting business that claims to create safer, more efficient communities. What I do is use some of the experience that I had gained and learned in my prior term as a mayor to assist other municipalities with their speeding problem. Records reviewed by 3 News confirm targeting is a popular option for local communities.
01:40:53
Speaker
we obtained four active contracts. I asked Elkins to describe what's included in his company's services. The the number one and most important aspect of it is i engage the processor.
01:41:07
Speaker
Elkins isn't stopping speeders or writing tickets himself, but he coordinates with ticket processors, third-party companies who issue citations. He works to address issues in real time while also giving clients access to a local expert in case of potential audits or legal action. Processors are kind of disconnected.
01:41:30
Speaker
from the community and the neighborhood and the elected officials. So they come in, they set up the cameras, and then they run. But there's no local understanding or management of all of the rest of the stuff that goes with it, the legal aspect. The system is designed to deter dangerous speeding, and ticket revenue can sometimes generate major cash flow, sometimes going toward road repair and public service agencies. orier mail But it does not come free. yep Public contracts show targeting typically takes a $25,000 retainer.
01:42:03
Speaker
From there, the company is paid 38 to 40% of every ticket written from the cameras Elkins helps maintain, with municipalities raking in the rest.
01:42:14
Speaker
As I sit here right now, I am struggling to identify any real... ah strategic component of a traffic camera system.
01:42:31
Speaker
that would be worth paying somebody to help you exploit. Elkin's operation is legal, but is it ethical for a sitting elected official to make hundreds of thousands of dollars off taxpayer tickets?
01:42:47
Speaker
And what value is being added years after these systems are set up? That money is being siphoned away from taxpayers. It's a question that some local officials share. Yeah, questions.
01:43:02
Speaker
What do you think about that? I think the people in Newburgh Heights are retarded. They voted him in by 70%. He got 70% of the vote. This is ah the city that we talk about sometimes up 71 if you're going to Cleveland. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You got the guy sitting there with a camera.
01:43:19
Speaker
Yep. That's Newburgh Heights. And they but they went to court twice to defend being able to do that. And they they they I think they argued that they had to for it. They needed the revenue.
01:43:31
Speaker
I think that was one of their arguments. Yeah. I don't think they won and somehow they're still able to do it. No, thought they did win. Or maybe not. dont I don't I thought won both cases. remember. The main argument was how much of the highway do they really have? Mm-hmm.
01:43:45
Speaker
And wasn't, ah was it Lindale that was also, that was the one that lost. think. That was one that lost, I think. But that a long time. That was like late, early 2000s. That didn't deal with cameras. That just dealt with them.
01:43:58
Speaker
That was old school. Yeah. It was a cop in a car. Yeah, yeah. And boy, they were the type that would pull you over for doing a mile over. But they're the ones who lost.
01:44:10
Speaker
Yeah, because they were doing speeding trap. They were doing more of a hiding the cop and then... It it also had to deal with how much of the highway was really part of Lindale. Such a a sliver and then yeah they would probably pull you over and out of their jurisdiction and all that kind of stuff. Yeah, Lindale was horrible for that. i don't i I don't remember ever seeing... I don't remember seeing a ever ah i don't remember seeing any cops there recently in the last few years. I haven't seen... i haven't driven that way regularly, you know, on ah on the regular, but ah I haven't seen one there in probably 10 years at this point. Yeah.
01:44:40
Speaker
So here we have the mayor of a city, ah very small city, by my mind you, not that I don't know how much that matters, but it is a very small city. And he owns a business coordinating traffic camera companies with other other municipalities into contracts for speeding cameras.
01:44:59
Speaker
How is that not a conflict? Well, he's he's taking revenue from Peninsula. It doesn't say anything about Newburgh. From what I can tell you. Yeah, I don't know. The cameras they point out in the article or in the news story, and of course it'll be on the blog, can check it out, ah is they're they're like on on posts. Right, it's not the guy sitting there. But I mean i i don't,
01:45:24
Speaker
part Part of this is, you know, this is better for the cities because they they don't have to hire somebody. They have to hire a whole crew to do all this IT work and set it in all that kind of stuff. So they're hiring third parties, which I i understand to some point. um I don't like it. like I get why they're doing it. actually efficient instead of hiring a bunch of people to do it.
01:45:43
Speaker
but Yeah. So I would imagine those systems that they're using in Newburgh with, because those are like, like almost like binocular looking kind of things, like a gun that he puts up to his face and it connects to something. Why wouldn't he be in involved in that too? That's a system that they need somebody to administer and all that stuff. So I don't, don't know if it's limited to only cameras, you know, fixed cameras.
01:46:06
Speaker
But it does' it does not mention Newburgh. That's the point. But why wouldn't it be there? you think You're saying, i mean, owns his company. I'm not saying anything. I'm just saying there's a contract with Peninsula.
01:46:18
Speaker
Yeah. Why don't they bring up Newburgh? That's kind of weird. maybe Maybe they don't have one. But I'm saying, would he let the contract go to somebody else? I don't know. But i this whole the whole traffic camera thing,
01:46:30
Speaker
It drives me insane because they say it's for your safety and I don't believe that. It's not for your safety at all. Yeah. And that's kind of what they bring up in this article is ah and accidents have actually increased.
01:46:42
Speaker
They've gone up some years, they've gone down some years. And then last year they went up like 10%. And then they go, well, it's, you know, the accidents are better because there's people are going slower. So they're, they're better accidents.
01:46:55
Speaker
yeah ah Yeah. I mean, I just don't like, yeah, to me, like if you really want to slow people down, put a cop there, put a cop car down there and don't worry about tickets. People are just going to slow down.
01:47:05
Speaker
Yeah. you know it's I know it's not as as efficient, but at least it's, let's let's say, at least I believe, I'll believe you a little bit more if you do it that way that it's for our safety.
01:47:19
Speaker
And it's not, it doesn't become a revenue source as much for, because you don't have to, you you pay them 40% and you take 60. It seems like a good deal for the city. You don't have to pay a cop over time and pay for cars. You have pay anybody. You're just getting money, right? Yeah.
01:47:33
Speaker
Once it's set up $25,000 and i bet in the first six months you make all that back. Easy. Easy. in some In some cases they were going over, and and we'll have a video up there too. It's kind of how I started this was YouTube video from channel three. And then they had a report couple days later, but they're talking about a million dollars.
01:47:49
Speaker
over the last couple years, the last three years to Peninsula. But some of these, they're getting $20,000, $30,000 a year, which doesn't seem like a lot when you're talking about Willoughby Hills having $5 million or Peninsula having $1 million. But for a small rural community, an extra $20,000 is huge. That's a large amount of money to just flush into. So it's very...
01:48:10
Speaker
and It's very um inviting or it's very ah attempting for these cities to to take on. And in in the in the article and in some of these news reports, there are some cities that are saying, no, this is not about safety. This is about cash flow. And there's a ah shot of this guy, Trevor.
01:48:29
Speaker
Uh, at a city council meeting and the city council people saying, no, we it's just, I love the cash. It's loved to have this cash. He goes, it's, it's, it's at what cost? At what cost?
01:48:40
Speaker
And so there are some cities that are turning it down, but not many. They're, they're popping up all over the place. although A good thing in Ohio, I think they have to put up a sign that's something that states that there's camera enforcement or something like that. theater Yeah, I see that all over the place. They they don't do it with the um with the Newberg one, and I think that's because there's an actual human being. I'm using human being lately um doing it. Usually a big fat turd, but yes. Yes.
01:49:12
Speaker
Well, yeah I just, you know, I've told you this before. It's like, i can't believe that guy's willing to do that. He's doing this. He thinks he's doing a service. and No, he doesn't. He's just doing, cause there's a paycheck.
01:49:23
Speaker
Yeah. That's the service. He gets a paycheck. ah So yeah, check it out. I mean, it's, um it's pretty infuriating what they're doing. And the fact that this guy, I mean, how, there's gotta be something ethical, but there gotta be something you could do about it. I don't think there is, but i mean, he's, he's the total package. Yeah. He's just going, hey, mayor to mayor, come on, check it out.
01:49:44
Speaker
And he's got an in. He's not using his talents. What talents do you have being the mayor of Newburgh Heights to get him? so Your talents are your connections, buddy. Your talents are your connections.
01:49:55
Speaker
You know what's weird is like they had a mayor, Gigi Traor, I yeah don't know how pronounce that last name, from 2018 to 2022. Yeah.
01:50:06
Speaker
And she lost to him by, i mean, 70 25. She had to be terrible. I mean, geez, that's a big, that's a huge. That's a huge disparity there. Yeah.
01:50:19
Speaker
Huge difference. Yeah. Huge. I don't know. Apparently. Apparently she was terrible because this this guy got busted for campaign finance. Yeah. Jesus. Wow. I mean, that could be.
01:50:32
Speaker
Campaign finance is a lot of bullshit too, but. Sometimes. you're still If you're getting busted, there's got to be some, it's smoke. It's got be some. Yeah, you would think because a lot of it, there's a lot of campaign because it's so convoluted sometimes. Right. The campaign finance laws.
01:50:46
Speaker
And yeah. Yeah. It could be used against you. He could have been legit. He could have it could have been legit, a legit campaign finance fraud or he could have been used against them. Who knows? It could have been a legitimate mistake, too. Yes. i mean, it's easy to, because it's because it's like you said, it's so convoluted. It's easy to make a mistake. Yeah. And a lot of times that's why you get a slap on the wrist because they look at it like, oh, he just wrote the check with the wrong something on or blah, blah, blah. And it wasn't nefarious, but who knows?
01:51:12
Speaker
But your political opponents will use it to get you out of office. It could have been easily, but I don't know. He seems a little, little... little slimy to me. a little sus there. And in and another part of the the other clip I have, the YouTube article or YouTube video shows the Channel 3 reporter confronting the Peninsula mayor after a ah meeting. And he was none too happy.
01:51:40
Speaker
None too happy. And it's you know, it's like, just answer the questions, dude. when When he says, hey, can i answer some questions about those traffic cams? He goes, no, talk to Target of Solutions. That's who I hire.
01:51:51
Speaker
And you walk away, you're like, Dude, you you ought I automatically think you're guilty now. automatically i think you're slimy in some way. Like, why? i I get reporters are a pain in the butt, but when you do that, you just make yourself look horrible.
01:52:03
Speaker
Check it out. It's pretty interesting. And ah walk watch watch for check traffic cams. I get them all the time. All around the state. It's crazy.
01:52:15
Speaker
All right. Next, we have
01:52:20
Speaker
very important public service announcement.
01:52:24
Speaker
it's not just yellow snow. Don't eat any snow, Tom. Don't eat any snow. This is actually a Channel 3 article that they pulled from some their St. Louis affiliate.
01:52:36
Speaker
And it's basically so a story about don't eat any snow, it's poison. It's poison. And they use the ah a doctor from the Environmental Health Sciences at Ohio ohio State University, the American Lung Association, national Nationwide Children's Hospital, PDX department to ask questions on. Is this true? is because And my kids have had this. There's a lot of recipes online for how to take snow and make stuff out of it.
01:53:01
Speaker
And so this reporter decided to start asking questions and her answers were, yes, it's true. Snow does contain pollutants and stuff that picks up in the air. You got a clip?
01:53:12
Speaker
No. No? Oh. and But this is, it says, don't eat, it says it's okay to eat snow. That's how it finishes. Freshly fallen snow on less windy days, snow that's bright white, snow that has never been plowed, and snow that has never been touched the ground.
01:53:30
Speaker
What? that Oh, so snow that's on top of snow, basically. so Bright white is the most important thing. Bright white, it's not yellow. Right. No yellow snow. But,
01:53:42
Speaker
Are there kids that like eating like the black snow? sight It's chocolate snow. ah No, but there's, uh, you know, as the internet will do, you can go outside get some snow. You can make ice cream out of it. you can go out and get snow. You can make this out of it
Local News Stories & Olympic Events
01:53:57
Speaker
that out of it. I'm like, well, yeah, you can't, it's not going to kill you.
01:54:02
Speaker
I think that was the moral the story. here I was like, yeah, you could eat it, but it does have some pollutants in it. And it's not like something we'd recommend you eating. It's kind of like drinking rainwater on a puddle. You probably want to filter it first. so Probably not even, not even from a puddle. I i mean, no, it's even that bad. Yeah. Yeah.
01:54:16
Speaker
Yeah. yeah whatever Whatever. They need to write something. Yeah, exactly. I just thought it'd be, you know, I like the bright white part. Make sure it's bright white. What are you trying to say? They called Ann Alred. Hey, we need an article. Write me something. She Googled something for two minutes. No, she didn't even do that.
01:54:37
Speaker
She says in the article, if you read the, watch the report, she says her kids brought it up from the internet about making stuff out of snow and she wanted to find out. So she was like, oh, I pulled this right out of my butt and we'll use this as a story. That's exactly what happened.
01:54:50
Speaker
got fill We need some feller. That's funny. Okay, moving on to a final segment. We bring good things to life.
01:55:02
Speaker
And besides Trump's assassin going to life in prison, we are ah going to start with Ohio for the first time is set to host some Olympic events for 2028. Now, I would say the only issue i have here is It is soccer.
01:55:24
Speaker
Or as they call it, Olympic football. And I'm calling i'm calling bs on that because it's it's America, buddy. This is soccer. Soccer, not American. Not oh Olympic football. And what they're planning on doing for the 2028 LA Olympics is taking some of the matches, the elimination matches, the knockout matches, that kind of stuff, group stages, blah, blah, blah, and kind of spread them out throughout the country at the different locations. And one of them is probably going to lower.com field.
01:55:53
Speaker
It used to be Scott's Miracle Grove field in outside Columbus where the Columbus crew plays. And it's just out just north of Columbus. I pass it up every now and again when I'm going down there.
01:56:06
Speaker
And it's been the first time that Ohio's ever hosted an Olympic event.
01:56:12
Speaker
Unfortunately, it's for soccer. Can't have it all, got people. Can't have all. So they have a crew crew who currently has a stadium that holds about 20,000 people.
01:56:24
Speaker
And, you know, they got certain requirements they got to hit. And Columbus hits those. The other major league soccer venues will be located in New York, Nashville, St. Louis, San Jose, and San Diego. That's be pretty cool.
01:56:36
Speaker
I think ah this year the World Cup is in the ah States, right? I think you're right. Yeah, I believe so. Big year for soccer.
01:56:48
Speaker
Yeah, okay. Well, the World Cup's huge. Yeah, it is. I know. I just like to make fun of it because it's America. We always make fun of soccer, even though world makes fun of us for not watching it. Yeah, you know, it's just too long of a sport with ah not like not much going on.
01:57:03
Speaker
Yeah, it's similar so went to baseball. In a way, there's a lot lot of you know nothing happening for a while, and then all of a sudden... Yeah, guess, but it's kind of like, I think you have, well, like we that's a whole discussion. We're jointly hosting it this year.
01:57:20
Speaker
I am not, okay, with Canada, right? And Mexico, yeah. Okay, so it's a North America thing. Yeah. I see. um Yeah, soccer, I mean, those are some of the best athletes as far as like...
01:57:34
Speaker
ha geez, they run the entire 90 minutes. There's there's no... ah Oh, yeah, those fields are enormous. Yeah. They're huge. Like the soccer we're used to here or football, like the indoor stuff, it's it's a fraction of the size of that kind of stuff.
01:57:46
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yeah yeah It's huge. Yeah. nice so Soccer is a cool sport, but it's it's just nobody's going to watch it over here. Yeah, there's no violence. There's nobody nobody smashing helmets together and stuff. That's kind why baseball kind of fell the wayside a lot of it I think hockey and basketball is fast pace, you know. I think part of baseball, too, was just too many, two took started taking too long.
01:58:09
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and And all the pitcher changes, it was just so much cooler when it was, even in the eighty s it was cooler. It just had fewer... pauses to the game. yeah they've Yeah. They've gotten rid of some of that, but unfortunately don't baseball anymore.
01:58:23
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Yeah. And, uh, the thing that I think really ruined baseball and sports in general is just all the, the money grubbing from the players. It's hard to get back behind a team when the players are always different.
01:58:38
Speaker
Now the Cleveland baseball team, they just signed, don't know why we even got in this, but they just signed, uh, what's his name? Um, Jose, oh my gosh, can't forget his name. But our second baseman, shortstop, whatever, he's been from the parm system. He's staying the whole time.
01:58:57
Speaker
And that's the story because he's one of the few players that will stay with a ah team through his whole career. Yeah, one that's cool. That's just rare. Jose Ramirez. Yeah. Which, yeah, he just signed a deal with probably income for the rest rest of his career in Cleveland, which is kind of cool, but it's it's it's it's so rare it becomes a story. i Yeah, and i but I also think that teams just, I think we could have kept the players that we just were like, no, let's get rid of them.
01:59:25
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But it makes it look like the players leaving because of money. yeah Like we could have offered them Or they make a late offer. This is a whole baseball discussion. We can go into 1990s and early 2000s Cleveland Indians stuff. Yeah, but we can't because we have one more story to talk about. It would not be wintertime without a good old dog rescue story.
01:59:52
Speaker
Somebody got a new toy. ah And that's basically it. it's um It's from our friends in Claremont County. Claremont County safety ah found a struggling dog, got a call, but a struggling dog in Pierce Township after residents heard the dog, they called after residents heard the dog crying for help.
02:00:13
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And they sent the rescue team out and the dog is, they got the dog, he's all warmed up, but he's happy. They don't mention anything about the owner. Oh, he's going to the animal control, Claremont County animal control.
02:00:27
Speaker
And hopefully they'll find his owners. Animal experts advise owners to keep their pets on a leash when they're outside and never to go after your dog if they're in the cold water.
02:00:38
Speaker
did this We don't know how the dog ended up there. Nope. That's a shame. doesn't mention anything about smacking up the owners upside the head or anything like that. Nope. doesn't mention anything.
02:00:48
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And I mean, can we build a dog for the rescue? Because sure, that costs a lot of money. The city just can't afford it. a if you don't want to If you don't want to pay for it, then don't go out in their lake. It's obviously a runaway, right?
02:01:00
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Yeah, probably. Cute
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02:01:02
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looking dog, though. But yeah, got to watch those pooches, man. It's not just, ah I mean, could ran away. Who knows? happens all the time. But keep your dogs on a leash, especially in wintertime, because could be turned quite tragic.
02:01:18
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But that's it. That's where we end on a ah good old heartwarming dog story. And that's it. I would like to thank you everybody for listening. Thank you for your time. appreciate it. Please subscribe to the podcast. Send it to your friends. Send us email. QuickerRiverCast at gmail.com. Check out the blog.
02:01:37
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02:01:44
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And that's it, Tom. I think god i think we're done. i yeah I talk to everybody next week. Peace.