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Ep. 37 - All of King Midas' Silver
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Boy oh boy do the pals go in on this episode. Grab something to drink and some popcorn, opinions are shared with adandon!
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Introduction and Social Media Promotion
00:00:09
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You're listening to the Let's Go Buffalo my guest. Your new favorite my guest for everything bills and sabers.
00:00:22
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What is going on, everybody? You're listening to the Let's Go Buffalo podcast, your favorite podcast for all things bills and savers, maybe just the bills these days with the pals, Nigel, Tom and Jake.
00:00:39
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episode 37 coming at y'all. Don't forget to follow our social medias. You can find us on all of them. You know what they are. We are at the handle. Let's go buff pod. Make sure you throw two F's on the word buff. And with that, let's say hello to the fellas. Tom, how are we doing, buddy? Boys, I'm good. Nigel, what day of the week is it? Tom, it is Friday.
00:01:05
Speaker
Thank you. I'm very excited to be here with you on a Friday. You're such
Casual Chat and Nostalgia
00:01:09
Speaker
a dickhead. That's just for the three of us. Nobody gets to enjoy that, but us. That was rude. I respect it. I'm so excited. I'm great. I'm good, guys. I'm so excited to hang. It's kind of a dreary, just rainy evening, and I'm pumped to hang out with you guys. Yeah, dude. Jake, what's good, homie?
00:01:35
Speaker
I'm good too. It's nice to be here on a Friday afternoon.
00:01:41
Speaker
Yeah, no, five weeks, a little, a little stressful week, but we're, we're coming off it now. I get to talk about my favorite non-stressful topic and that's Buffalo sports. Yeah, dude, never causes issues whatsoever in any capacity. No, sir. Yeah. Boys, there's going to be some things that I am sure as hell going to need a beer for maybe two. Although I do have a tall boy here, so we'll see what happens. Um, you guys ready to crack a bit of rash?
00:02:09
Speaker
Yeah. Here we go. Fellas ready? Three, two, one. Nice. Let's see. Uh, anybody want anybody dying to go first?
00:02:22
Speaker
I have big owl beer. This beer is called Ark of Petals, and it's from foam. Again, another foam from Burlington, and it's delicious. It's a pale ale. No, IPA. It's an IPA. It's delicious. I've had a couple this week, and I wanted to save it for the pot.
00:02:49
Speaker
I'm sucking down this complex patterns of rainbow can from threes brewing down in Brooklyn. It's a food re fermented my box. So what was that? I don't I didn't I heard understood three of those four words. Food fooder. I think it's fooder food ray.
00:03:09
Speaker
F-O-U-D-R-E. I think it's food ray, but it's like a big wooden vat that was popular in France and it's made from oak. That's the extent of my knowledge on food rays, but they're used for fermenting a lot of things.
00:03:26
Speaker
That sounds fancy as hell, dude. I think that can is absolutely stunning, dude. You have a gorgeous can, Jake. I've been holding that before. Thank you. Dude, I've got a three heads beverage here. Not the kind, though. They did a specialty beer for our good pals, the Rochester Nighthawks. I'm drinking the Nighthawk Hazy IPA. I'm going to be totally honest with you guys. It's pretty damn delicious.
00:03:56
Speaker
Sweet. Yeah. Let's go. Let's go across. Well, I have absolutely no idea a fun story about the Nighthawks though. Um, so I used to be major, major, major lacks, bro. Um, and me and my buddy Jake, shout out Jake Lee, you'll probably never ever see this or hear this, but was a really, really, really good buddy of mine in our younger days. And we both played the cross together and us and our parents went to the home opener for the Nighthawks one night.
00:04:24
Speaker
And damn it, wouldn't you know it? We both that night through a giveaway won season tickets for the rest of the season. So the season, Jake and I went to every single game together. It was freaking sick. That's really fun. That's awesome. Yeah. What is that? A one in a million chance. It was crazy. Separately, like two different giveaways. You won one set and he won another set.
00:04:46
Speaker
yes it was like one it was like a big it was like it's like seven eight people whatever in the crowd that night we're gonna win season tickets for the rest of the season and jake and i were two of the seven or whatever oh shit yeah it was crazy bro super fun nine ox games are a good time um back when i was there the announcer was incredibly annoying but i digress
00:05:06
Speaker
Dude, that's what did that's happened to me too before we're like I've won two separate contests at once Do you remember this Tom? My sister and I both will hold into a radio station and we both independently won blink 182 tickets on the same day Crazy and I was a lucky beneficiary. So yes, I do Banger dude banger. Yeah, bro
NFL Draft Humor and Rival Player Picks
00:05:37
Speaker
I love it. Well, hey, guys, I want you to know I'm going to announce this now. I'm very excited to kind of put this out there. I am. I am not declaring for the NFL Draft this year. Damn it, Tom. So you guys are stuck with me. I will not be entering myself. So don't pick 28. I won't be there. How selfish can you get next year's my year?
00:06:02
Speaker
You are unbelievable, dude. The people asked for it. I had you going in the first round, bro. Oh, yeah. Trying to explain that one to the fan base, eh? All right, boys, should we get into get into some stuff here? Tom, you had a question. You wanted to post the voice here. I had a query. I had a query for you. And this is kind of just fun, a little thought problem. You.
00:06:31
Speaker
Nigel and you, Jake, have a chance to steal a player off of a division rival. Who are you choosing? And you could also choose to go either NHL or NFL on this one, your choice. But you can't put the NHL player on the bills or the NFL player on the savers. Fair enough. No stipulations, any player. Does the contract come with them?
00:07:00
Speaker
Sure, but it has to be in division. Good. I have mine. While you guys are thinking, I have mine. You go first. I had one that is like, kind of like, especially because we need a wide receiver. It's like, oh, you should go get Tyree Kill. But I think the guy's a schmuck in a scumbag. So not Tyree Kill. I'm going Jett's de-tackle Quinn and Williams. Oh, OK. I thought you were about to tell mine.
00:07:25
Speaker
Nah, I want to line up right next to Ed Oliver, Quinn and Williams, and Ed Oliver, and we would win every trench battle you could ever imagine. It would be so much fun. That is probably, I'm really trying to go through very quickly in my head, maybe objectively the best pick. I didn't even think of that one. I'm super disappointed in myself.
00:07:50
Speaker
Um, Tom, did you want us to do a hockey and a football or just one or the other? I want whatever your brain will do. I don't know if you have both Nigel, go do both. Okay. So I, my first thought was, was football. Um, and I had the exact same thought process, dude. I was like, okay, Tyree kill, but he's a piece of shit. So, um, not picking him. I am going to pick Jalen waddle though.
00:08:14
Speaker
I think Jalen waddle would be a really nice addition to this team With that with that speed that he's got dude. I think I think he could probably be a number one wide receiver in the NFL I think Jalen waddle is crazy. Good. I think his route running is insane. His speed is insane. His compete is nice I don't know how he is as a run blocker, but as a wide receiver that boy is nice. That'd be really fun. Yeah. Yeah, I like it
00:08:40
Speaker
And as far as the hockey world goes, dude, this is a tough one because the division is the Atlantic division in hockey is is absolutely huge. I think I think for me, Jake and Tom, I would go Mitch Marner from the from the Maple Leafs. All right. Yeah, I'm a huge Mitch Marner fan, dude. What position does he play? He's a center center. Yeah, I'm curious. What what made you what made you choose him?
00:09:09
Speaker
I think, okay, so like obviously Matthews is the goal scorer there, dude, but I'm just so into these guys. Like we've got a goal scorer in Taysh Thompson. Didn't do it so much this year, but I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt and blame his lack of goals on an injury because in the last month or so, I think in terms of goal scoring, he has come on. I think he came back from that broken hand just
00:09:34
Speaker
It was like Adrian Peterson coming back from that torn ACL in like six months ask like just came back way too soon And and I think he looked like it. So I think we've got a goal scorer But Mitch Myers vision dude, like the way I watch that guy set guys up dude is just Absolutely unreal and his stick handling is crazy. He's good for I mean
00:09:58
Speaker
Feel like on average he's good for a minimum point of game in the season like he's just I just think he's such a good player And he's got some good compete to him
00:10:06
Speaker
Yeah, I agree. He plays the wing, by the way. He's a right winger. He's usually on the wing for Matthews, setting up Matthews at center. But dude, I think that's huge. The one I had was a different position. I did choose a center in my head, and I chose Alexander Barkov from Ford and Panthers. Underrated as hell.
00:10:30
Speaker
Criminally, yeah, he still gets talked a lot. He has a lot of accolades. I mean, he's I think he was their all-star pick, but he's still an incredible player. He's got an incredible sense of. The defensive side and two way play in the NHL, and that's something that the Sabres are missing. I think they they've displayed that they have the offensive firepower two seasons ago. They displayed they have some defensive chops this year. They need to put him together and there's no better player in my mind to do that from the division than a two way guy like Alexander Barkov on the top line.
00:10:58
Speaker
I would be just goddamn elated if Barkov were to become a saber, dude. I love that pic. This is all fantasy land, but I love the question. This is excellent. You crushed the fun questions. Your brain works in a great way, man. I love it. I'm a fun guy. I did find this on Twitter, so I'm not going to somebody on Twitter. Nobody anybody would know. I apologize if that person is one of our zero viewers right now. So.
00:11:25
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But so yeah, that's fine Maya runner-up would have been also wide receiver would have been Garrett Wilson from the gym Yeah, do you match him for Josh Allen thrown to Garrett Wilson? That solution he'd be the stupid dig solution that rolls us right in as my little segue you like that If so last week
00:11:54
Speaker
Um, Jake Dana and I spent some time just kind of like, honestly, probably like unwrapping the shock from our brains of this step on digs trade to Houston. None of us thought it was possible. It wasn't a thing that was even like, we thought like, Oh man, like the digs thing, he's clearly unhappy. It's kind of like, it's getting the situations a little hairy, but it's like,
00:12:15
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there's no way. I think I was probably even saying on this podcast, there's probably recording of me saying there's no shot that he's traded. And alas, here we are. We're now a week out. Some other news has come out and more context has been provided.
00:12:31
Speaker
But I thought this would be nice kind of time to go back and like let's reiterate what happened here. Nigel's reaction and then kind of unpack of like, where do we go?
Stephon Diggs Trade Analysis
00:12:41
Speaker
Right. I mean, all of this was made with decisions in mind. Right. Bean does not make decisions lightly. So he clearly has thoughts here. And we want to kind of like maybe make our predictions of where we're going. But nice dude. What do you think? Stephon Diggs, Houston Texans. OK, so
00:13:02
Speaker
I am, all right, I have two takes on this and I'm gonna give my more unpopular one first because I know that I'm, there's, if people could crucify me for this one. I have a really hard, if Stephon Diggs genuinely did not believe that the way this Bill's team was operating right now, that they couldn't get to the next step and he wanted out,
00:13:26
Speaker
I don't necessarily blame a player for sticking to their guns. If that's what they genuinely feel and they don't think the job can get done and they want out, I have a hard time blaming a guy for making that call for themselves and asking for a trade. And this is unpopular, I recognize.
00:13:49
Speaker
In a way, I have a tough time blaming him for that. Okay. Because look at what we've done the last couple of years. We keep getting stuck in the same goddamn fucking position. And it's the same shit every time where I think we can all look back and recognize that at least for me, and I've, I've said this on the podcast before, a lot of the issues in these playoff games were coaching.
00:14:11
Speaker
right, or defensive lapses. Josh Allen and the offensive always, nine times out of ten, put us in the position to be successful in these playoff games, and it's either been a defensive lapse or a coaching buffoonery that has ruined it for us, okay, now.
00:14:31
Speaker
Was Diggs part of that though? Was he part of the offense being put in a good situation? Cause I don't think so. And that's where, okay. So the way all of this was handled was terrible, dude. And like when you're, I'm so sick of this, like all wide receivers are going to be wide receivers.
00:14:49
Speaker
fucking stop dude you are a representation of an organization and a fan base that is paying you an exorbitant amount of money dude when somebody asks you about your quarterback and he and he was always good about this you gas that dude up you
00:15:07
Speaker
Don't go on Twitter and fucking tweet cryptic shit that just gives anybody any potential ammunition for speculations. Just stop, dude. Just don't do that. And I can't. He can't. He can't stop himself. And I am. I'm just like everyone's like, oh, you know, wide receivers are divas, blah, blah, blah. Fucking miss me with that shit, dude. I'm I was getting so sick of that.
00:15:34
Speaker
Like that irritated the absolute hell out of me. Just don't. Just be quiet and go about your business and let everything that you do on the field do all you're talking for you. And he couldn't do it. He just had to do stupid little shit to instigate everything. And honestly, dude, it's nothing more than a distraction.
00:15:53
Speaker
so honestly good riddance I'm fine with it yes the dead cap this year is hurts like a motherfucker right we're gonna pay him 31 million dollars to go and catch however many touchdown passes from CJ Stroud and and I'm gonna put this out here right now okay
00:16:13
Speaker
He's going to score four touchdowns against us when we play him. It's going to happen. I know it. I know it's going to happen. And it's going to be terrible. And we're going to pay him $31 million to score four touchdowns against us. That being said, it frees up like $37 million next year.
00:16:28
Speaker
He, you can, you can miss me with all the diva shit. I want guys on this team that work their balls off, go about their business, care about one another and play for the logo on the front and not the name on the back. And step on digs is in the last two seasons has not exemplified that rant over.
00:16:46
Speaker
That was the whole thing when Bean and McDermott kind of took over. They wanted guys that wanted to play in Buffalo and didn't necessarily care about getting the best players. They wanted to get the players that wanted to be part of the solution, not the problem. And he clearly, clearly fell out of that in the last year or so. And I think that's a big reason why he's gone. He hit the nail on the head with that new thing.
00:17:07
Speaker
Yeah, I don't know. And Josh Allen made Stephon Diggs. Stephon Diggs made Josh Allen. I think it's a symbiotic relationship. It's a two-way street, yeah. It's absolutely two-way. But he wouldn't be the wide receiver that he's known as without Josh. So what world is he living in? What world is he living in that he thinks that he can just, ah, it just drives me crazy. The thing that really just really gets me
00:17:34
Speaker
Nine months ago before the 2023 season, he went on record in an interview saying adamantly, I want to retire a bill. Yeah. He signs two years ago, a huge four year extension, paying him as one of the top five wide receivers in the NFL, playing for a perennial Superbowl contender with arguably the second best quarterback of like it currently in the NFL. And he was upset.
00:18:04
Speaker
Yeah, bro. Wait, get out. Get out. I'm done. I'm honestly done. I like he's not. I'm putting some more jerseys up on the wall and I got bees back there. I got a true Davias white jersey to put back there to Jordan Poirier jersey. Dix is not going up there, at least for a while. It's going to take some time for me to want to put him on the wall because I'm burned. Like, yes, he was here and he played and his statistical production was one of the best of the bills I've ever seen.
00:18:33
Speaker
But man, I don't know. The cool thing about the Bills that I'm one of my favorite things is that these players, we start to really connect with.
00:18:43
Speaker
We really start to get and believe in and want to root for. And I think it's partly because Sean McDermott and Brandon Bean tends to prioritize players who want to come to Buffalo and be part of the process. I know that's a buzzword, but it does kind of correlate to players being people who wants to be part of the team and be part of the community and be players you want to root for and you believe in and you think can do it.
00:19:11
Speaker
Man, he just he immediately took that all out for me. I don't believe in him. I don't believe any word that he ever said that he wanted to be here. I mean, there's he was on the cover of Sports Illustrated for kids as Josh Allen's best friend two years ago. Yeah, I forgot about that. That sucks. I was a Sports Illustrated for kids kid. That was me. I love those magazines. I read that for like 10 years straight. That was me. Tom, you can read.
00:19:55
Speaker
the the the
00:20:02
Speaker
But like, like, you know, like these are things that these are people that kids look up to and I, I'm going to have, I'm going to have a kid here soon. I don't want my kid looking up to a person like Stefan Diggs. No, thank you. Every freaking day. I hope, I hope my kid does, but just step on digs. No, thanks.
00:20:20
Speaker
Yeah, he's just, it's weird, man, because in the NFL, winning is king, right? And we see that all the time with these guys that get accused of domestic violence and all that terrible stuff. And they're back on the field three weeks later, right? We see that winning is king.
00:20:43
Speaker
At some point, somebody's not gonna give a shit about character, right? And Stephon Diggs now has run himself out of two organizations. I don't know what you can honestly sit back and say about this guy's character in a positive manner.
00:20:59
Speaker
And that's like if you're if you just want to win and you're determined to just put the best possible physical players on a field. Yeah, Stefan takes is great, dude. But if you like, I don't know a successful team that doesn't have a wildly successful locker room.
00:21:15
Speaker
and character counts at a locker room. And I can't imagine that in this kind of, this is a very important thing that we talked about. Have you guys seen anything from the players? Not a single thing. I saw Daquan Jones go live to talk about it. I didn't go to the live. I was, I didn't sit on it, but I saw that he went live that evening. Outside of that, dude, I didn't see a lick. I saw Cole Beasley tweet and be like, don't like this guy's a dog. He works his ass off.
00:21:44
Speaker
But which is fine. Like, yes, he is. He does work hard. And I would agree. He's a dog. I would agree with that. But man, I don't think. Yeah, I don't I don't want him. I don't want him anywhere near Buffalo. I expect it's just just infuriating. What didn't Colby's leave on? Not the best of foots either with some. He just he just because anti-vaxxer bullshit. Yeah, that's all it was. He was he was. Yeah, he. Yeah.
00:22:10
Speaker
If there's no COVID, if there's no COVID, Colby's maybe retires a bill. Like there's just that whole thing. He just stuck to his guns and we're not here to get political, but I can at least respect somebody that, despite all the bantering it.
00:22:27
Speaker
sticks to what they believe in or not bantering ridicule. He at least stuck to what he's what he believes. And I don't agree with that. But he was he was more upset. I mean, yeah, I think I don't think he believes in. Anyway, we're going to get it. We're going to get it. We're going to get it. Let's not go down that road. But he was I think he was more concerned with what the the NFL COVID protocols were doing to the players at the bottom of the roster.
00:22:48
Speaker
He was worried he was and he felt he had a voice because he was a veteran and he could stick up for that, which I respected the hell out of truth. And I respect that. Right. Because he's looking out for the guys who were because the practice squad guys kind of got kind of got the shaft. Yeah, those guys have no voice. OK, before we get into any kind of hot, hot, hot, sticky subjects, we should move on to more digs things, because it also came out this week that in order for this deal to go through,
00:23:16
Speaker
the Houston Texans gave up a second round pick for Stephon Diggs in what was it, a fifth and a sixth from us or something like that? Yes, all ship for essentially a one year rental of Stephon Diggs. And they've the Houston Texans have, I think, done a little bit of revisionist history.
00:23:32
Speaker
And they're trying their hardest. I you know, God bless them. Go for it. Have fun, buddy. That they have essentially nullified the last three years of his four year contract, meaning that Stefan Diggs is now on a one year contract. And they're saying we want to get the best version of Diggs so he can go out and get the next big deal. Whoo hoo. Yeah, good luck, guys. He's going to Dallas.
00:23:54
Speaker
Yeah. He's going to go play with his brother. Um, Houston gave us a second round pick to have him play for their team for one year. And then he's going to retire a cowboy. Um, so whatever. I mean, which I mean, makes me feel a little bit better about the return. It does. It does. Unless the scales to, to the, to the bills. And here's, here's one place that I go very quickly. Have you looked at the current Houston Texans roster?
00:24:23
Speaker
It is filthy. It is. Yeah. So goddamn good. Watch them go and win a Super Bowl this year. Man, I'd be so upset. But man, they're young. They're young. Yes, they're good. But they're young. Yeah, they're young. But CJ Strava doesn't play like he's young.
00:24:41
Speaker
Yeah. Okay. I don't, I, you think he's going to go. He's the one who's going to get past the patch of her homes, dude. It would, with the weapons that he now has, I mean, in between the running game, Nico Collins, Stefan Diggs, the tight end situation, dude. I just, it wouldn't shock me. The guy, the guy showed, he looked like he'd been in the league for three years last year.
00:25:02
Speaker
Sure. So did Justin Herbert playoffs are different. You're right. So did Justin Herbert. Justin Herbert had the best rookie NFL rookie quarterback season ever. And then he has not looked the same. So I'm not ready to crown him. I also cannot wait for Stephon Diggs to be the fourth passing option on that Texas offense. You have like 60 fucking targets, two touchdowns and like 30 catches. So have fun, buddy. You would burn the facility to the ground.
00:25:28
Speaker
That's what I want. That's all I want now. That's all I want. I am hammering every under on Stephon Diggs for every bet I can make. I will stand my ground. And then when he sucks, I will absolutely wear his jersey on this podcast and just flaunt it.
00:25:49
Speaker
I respect that how out of it time. You're almost as petty as I am, which is saying something. I learned it for the best, buddy. I learned it for the best. Really? Gotcha, petty. Yeah, dude. Well, it's a bummer, but it is what it is. And yeah. OK, let's sum it up. Can we sum it up in one sentence or a couple of words for each of us? Oh, the last 20 minutes of ranting hasn't done it. Hasn't yet, right? For me, it's a good riddance.
00:26:16
Speaker
Okay. That's all it is. Yeah. Good riddance. I'm ready to not have that distraction around the team. I think I agree. I think my sentence would be, I'm excited to see what the next solution is. Because I trust in this team and this organization to have a solution in mind. So I'm excited to see. This is going to be a different looking team than we've ever seen under Brandon Bean and Sean McDermott. And I'm excited to see what they do.
00:26:41
Speaker
Yeah, for sure. Jake, do you have any, any thoughts or anything to add or should we roll into the next? I'll give you a follow up with one word and that's opportunity, opportunity to see what Josh Allen can do without Stefan Diggs. Cause like Tom, I think Tom said it like they kind of made each other kind of blossomed both careers a little bit. So this is his opportunity to come out and say, I don't need this guy. This guy was a diva. I can, I can sling the ball to anyone. Um,
00:27:08
Speaker
My God, can you imagine he goes out and has a career here without stuff? That would make me so happy. He's going to, bro. He's going to. Can Kade and Shakir going to have the freaking best year of their lives? I was just going to say it's not just opportunity for 17 either. You got one boy named Khalil Shakir and another boy named Duncan Kade, who are ready to catch some goddamn targets, dude.
00:27:30
Speaker
They're sitting at home, just rubbing their hands together, licking their chops, like, okay, this is the time that they can go make, like, career money for themselves with this season. Right? Absolutely. Shakir's going into year three or four? Three.
00:27:47
Speaker
You're three so he's he has two more years on his rookie deal and then he's setting himself up And he's this is his opportunity to go do it in Kincaid. Yeah, man. Okay, so We yeah. Wow. This is gonna be a lot of ranting. We have more ranting to do later folks. So another beer Yeah, it's gonna be fun. This is a fiery episode. I love it. What do we do next? So does this change our priorities
Draft Strategies Post-Diggs
00:28:09
Speaker
in the draft night?
00:28:10
Speaker
Um, I, I definitely think it does. Yeah. I think it skyrockets the need for a wide receiver because as of right now, objectively, right. And I'm not saying that it isn't Khalil Shakir. We've seen fifth round picks before or fourth round picks become number one wide receivers. Um, that being said, I don't think there is a legit number one wide receiver on this team now.
00:28:34
Speaker
I do not think that if you stick at pick 28 in the draft, you are going to get the opportunity to draft your number one wide receiver, at least not this year. Whoever you drafted 28 is not going to be your number one wide receiver this year. You would draft them to be possibly your number one wide receiver next year, right? So that begs a huge question here now. And just two weeks ago, we were on this podcast,
00:29:02
Speaker
talking about how I think we all pretty much universally believe that the best draft philosophy to us is to let the board fall how it's going to set yourself up before the draft so that you don't need like an absolute must have at one position and are able to take the best available player, right? Don't box yourself in. Exactly. Losing as Stefan Diggs, I think
00:29:30
Speaker
Pushes the need for a wide receiver more towards the top. However you guys and and and I Can't stress this enough. I am a complete idiot, right? I'm not I don't I don't I don't analyze College players full-time, right? I do it while I'm on the John and when I have a little bit of downtime Right, and I'm not playing tell divers with Tom. Yeah on the John is
00:29:54
Speaker
approaching full time. So here's what I'll say. I've got four wide receivers. No, excuse me, sorry. Three wide receivers with that I think are objectively first round talents, and they're going to go in the top 10. To me, Brian Thomas Jr. is not and I say Brian Thomas Jr. because he's like the pretty universal
00:30:17
Speaker
Fourth wide receiver For the majority of people I don't see him as a first round talent and if he is he's late late late late late first round and I know we're picking 28 It's a difficult thing man because yes, you need a wide receiver But all we're hearing about this draft class is how deep the wide receiver class is today
00:30:41
Speaker
Not going to say when I did it, but today I did approximately 20 mock NFL drafts. It was right between period four and period five of elementary music. I'll see. I thought he was doing it. I thought he was up at five a.m. Run through some mock drafts. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
00:31:00
Speaker
That's it, Jake. I was up at 5 a.m. I stretched, I did a quick resistance band trigger session, and then I got on my laptop and was banging out some mock traps. That's when I did it. 5 a.m. OK, so, boys, there was not a single time of those 20 times where one of these three guys did not fall to pick 28. Byron Murphy, defensive tackle.
00:31:25
Speaker
Johnny Newton, defensive tackle, or Cooper Dijon, insane, all around, crazy athletic, strong, fit, ball-hawk, secondary player. He's the kind of defensive player where even if you don't need a safety, you go and you draft this guy if he's available at 28.
00:31:42
Speaker
Did not get a single my draft for one of those three did not drop to 28 I'm gonna tell you guys right now one of those three guys drops to pick 28 You make that pick you don't draft ad Mitchell or leg it or lad mcconkey You pick one of those guys because they are legitimate high first round talents
00:32:04
Speaker
You pick the best player available. One of those guys is available at pick 28. They are the best player available. I promise you. So you make that pick. Tom and Jake, thoughts on that?
00:32:18
Speaker
Can I go, Tom? Yeah. Because I totally agree. You don't need to know a lot about the NFL in general to talk about draft strategy. And you don't need to box yourself into a position where you must pick this type of player. You pick the player that is the best at the spot that you've rated them. That's why you do the scouting. That's why you do the pre-draft boards to know who you're picking is the best player for your team at that position.
00:32:48
Speaker
wide receiver like you you can find excellent wide receivers in later rounds and like you said this is a deep wide receiver class so
00:32:58
Speaker
maybe there is a better option there in the first round. And then you go and search, maybe you double down in the later rounds for a wide receiver and go more quantity over quality and give yourself dart throws for down the line. You never know who comes out of those draft classes. So I totally agree. Yeah, take the best player available, but prioritize getting some wide receiver depth in this draft.
00:33:22
Speaker
Tom, thoughts? Man, I agree. And especially, I think I'm going to kind of take the next step for Jake's thought here of you do take the next best player available. That's why you do all this pre-draft work, and particularly when you have a multitude of needs. If we take a quarterback at 28, it's insane. That's stupid, and that is terrible draft strategy. However, at D tackle, D end, wide receiver, safety,
00:33:49
Speaker
Those are the positions I would be, I would be okay with taking it at 28. And the more I keep hearing about it and thinking about it and hearing other great content makers kind of talk about it, I'm getting closer and closer to wanting them to trade back and get two second rounders and get two players between pick 32 and 60. And, and maybe there's two wide receivers, particularly, um, because some, um, Joe Marino, I'm trying to find the tweet and I'm going to post it. I'm going to send it up here.
00:34:20
Speaker
Um, uh, oh, here it is. Okay. I got it. So, uh, I'm going to share my screen. The list of players who are the top white paid wider NFL wide receivers right now. Before I, before I, before I even say this, you're going to kind of, you can, I'm kind of leading you to an answer out of the top 10 paid wide receivers. How many of them were picked in the first round? Do you think Jake, before I present, I share the screen. Oh, I don't know. Probably. I feel like you're leading me somewhere. So I'll say three. Okay.
00:34:49
Speaker
Here we go. Last share screen. I want that one. This this blew my mind. I know exactly what time is talking about, and I almost. So it's top paid wide receiver Tiger kill round five. Number two, Devonta Adams, round two, Cooper Cup, round three, AJ Brown, round two, DK Metcalf, round two, Deebo Samuel, round two, Michael Pittman Junior, round two, Calvin Ridley, round one, pick twenty six. That's kind of right right near twenty eight. OK, there's one.
00:35:18
Speaker
Terry mcclaurin number three and good old Stefan Diggs round five one singular player single, none of them top 10. Um, and yeah, I mean, you, you have to account for in the next few years, Justin Jefferson, Jamar chase. Um, a bunch of these guys are going to go and they're going to get big money. So they will hop this list and be on there. Sure.
00:35:43
Speaker
There's a punch that are not. And I think this is where we kind of get into a little bit of an issue, though, because like these players, yes, they were kind of.
00:35:55
Speaker
They were not top first round picks, but they also took several years to become the alpha wide receivers. I don't remember many of these guys immediately becoming impact elite number one wide receivers on their team. So you kind of then have to marry that we need, we do need a number one wide receiver.
00:36:13
Speaker
I just don't think we're getting at 28. So my thought is that's trade down. And if you ask me, ask me today what I want to do, I want to trade out of the first round, go get picked 35 and 60 or something like that. And then you have two picks in the second round and take two shots at wide receiver.
00:36:30
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, for sure. I listened to another of the Joe Marino episode that I think you're referring to, but he talked about the Green Bay Packers, and I think they're a great example. They don't have a single first round wide receiver invested, but they have an excellent, excellent receiving corps. And they're young. And they're young and but then my confounding
00:36:52
Speaker
problem here is that they weren't immediately good. They were, none of those guys were like, oh my gosh, rookie season. Boom. They were other than elite number one wide receiver. And I don't think we can expect that.
00:37:03
Speaker
I don't think we can expect that, right? I don't think we should. I don't think you can ever expect a rookie wide receiver. I don't care if it's Marvin Harrison Jr. You probably can't even expect Marvin Harrison Jr. to come out and immediately be your number one wide receiver. This is the National Football League. It is not the SEC or the Big 10, right? Like these are the elite of the elite. Think about it. These SEC schools, Alabama, right? Alabama is, or at least in the last
00:37:31
Speaker
100 years when same has been the coach are universally regarded as as the best college football team in the country in any given year, they aren't even in the double digits of the amount of players.
00:37:45
Speaker
that were drafted into the NFL, right? So that in and of itself puts it into perspective how elite the NFL is, right? This is not going to be the big 10 for Marvin Harrison Jr. I don't expect him to just be able to step in and be a number one wide receiver. I just don't think that's feasible for a rookie. It's too much of a jump from the college game to the professional game.
00:38:09
Speaker
So yeah, massive, but you also you don't need like you don't need that you don't need to have that like bonafide number one stud wide receiver, at least at least in my very uneducated opinion, there's other ways to generate good offense, you could you can keep your two he's going to be relied on a lot more as a pass catcher.
00:38:27
Speaker
James Cook kind of exploded a little bit last year so hopefully that continues and develops a little bit more like if you have other threats then that opens up other doors for your maybe not number one wide receivers to start catching some balls for you yeah absolutely dude it's it's just yeah you can't put that kind of pressure on on
00:38:46
Speaker
You know, a rookie wide receiver to just be the dude right away. It's not feasible. Um, so yeah. And it's, it's especially not feasible at pick 28 in the goddamn NFL draft, because here's the, here's the honest to God truth, right? Any given NFL team.
00:39:02
Speaker
has at the most, right? 20 first round grades on players. There's 32 picks that have to be made, right? So no matter how you slice it, the teams towards the back end, there's a very little chance that they're legitimately getting a first round prospect, which is why I say if one of those three guys that I just mentioned, and again, that's Byron Murphy, Johnny Newton or Cooper Dijon falls to 28. And I'll guess I'll piggyback on that by saying,
00:39:32
Speaker
I'm in the camp of stick and pick. I don't want to trade back. I also don't want to trade into the top 10. I think trading into the top 10 is going to cost you borderline. All of King Midas is silver, right? And you're all you're doing realistically is just removing dark throws at the board, right? And we've seen the way this this organization drafts Christian Benford six round pick step. We didn't dress up on big takes, but fifth round pick.
00:39:58
Speaker
Right. Like these guys that we get in later rounds that are helping our third round pick. Khalil Shakir, Feds Round Pack. Right. Like we could do this for a minute here. So, you know, I don't want to, I don't want to take away Brandon Bean's darts for a guy who has legitimately played zero NFL snaps. Right. I know or didn't say neighbors and Harrison Jr are regarded as generational wide receivers.
00:40:24
Speaker
I don't want to take away four of Brandon Bead's dart throws for a guy that's never played in the NFL. I am firmly in the camp of stick at 28 because I've got a feeling, dude. I don't know that the NFL draft is crazy and unpredictable, and it's the wild freaking goddamn West. I can't shake the idea that there there's I think there's a good chance that either Murphy or Newton fall to 28. I don't think Cooper Dajon will.
00:40:53
Speaker
I think there's a shot that Johnny Newton is there at 28. And man, imagine what that would do for this defense at Oliver and another stud, like D tackle rookie. I'm a rookie deal with Daquan Jones can learn from Daquan work next to Ed Oliver and just like, just set us up for forever. Right?
00:41:15
Speaker
I'm okay. I'm coming around to being okay with it at first. My initial thought was my official, like my monkey brain was like, Oh no, we need a wide receiver. We're going to suck. It's going to be terrible. Like Josh Allen's going to do nothing next year without step up and it's like, no, that's relax. We're good. We're okay. That's not, we will figure that out. And there's such a high hit rate of wide receivers becoming elite wide receivers outside of the first rounds that
00:41:41
Speaker
I don't feel the absolute necessity that it has to happen. If it does, okay. But if it doesn't, I'm okay with it. I agree with you. I do not want us to move up.
00:41:53
Speaker
I either want to stick and pick or trade down slightly, trade down five picks or something like that. Right. Don't trade down huge. Get another day to pick second round, third round pick or pack up some of these day three picks that we have and move up in this and this day to something like that. Yeah, I don't know. We'll see. Yeah, it's it's going to be I can't wait for the draft. I love the NFL draft.
00:42:18
Speaker
So I'm gonna announce it here. We will be live for the first round of the NFL Draft at least and possibly more depending on how much fun we have. So come and hang with Nigel and I on the April 25th, Thursday night for a little draft extravaganza.
00:42:34
Speaker
We will kind of hang out. This is going to be so much excitement. There's lots, not only for the Bills, this is a really exciting NFL draft class between the quarterbacks and the wide receivers and the offensive line. Like there's lots going on and there's a lot of needs around the league. So it's going to be really interesting to see who moves where, what's going on. It's going to be fun. It's going to be a lot not to see outside of just Bills things. So it will be a good time.
00:42:58
Speaker
It's been, I, I've been loving us picking in the late first round, dude, like watching the way the board like comes apart and comes together. Like by the time they pick there, like I just, I love watching the way it all transpires, dude. I know that's the nerd in me, but like, I just think it's so fascinating.
00:43:20
Speaker
Well, so yeah, we'll see what happens I at this point and I actually I texted my buddy Ryan about this today I don't think I came from the last draft that I flip-flopped this much between like Sick and pick trade-off sick and pick trade back like and like right now I'm saying stick and pick I tomorrow morning I could wake up and be like so help me God if what dunes day is not a bill I'm gonna freak out
00:43:41
Speaker
Yeah, so yeah. No, that's what I was the earlier this week. I was like, let's go. Let's go trade with the bears. Let's go get a dune's day at nine. Trade up. Do it. Just make the move. They are the most likely candidate. I think so. I think them are the Falcons.
Live NFL Draft and Sabres' Season Reflection
00:43:55
Speaker
I think Falcons at eight or bears at nine. Oh, OK. We will be talking about this more before a draft. So don't worry. All of that will come out.
00:44:03
Speaker
Whoo. And yeah, boys, before I serve you guys up some some shark chum, some spoiled meat. Yeah. Yeah. Do you guys have any last thoughts on any of these bills, topics that we've talked about this evening?
00:44:20
Speaker
I think no, no, this isn't the conversation for a later time. Nope. OK, so my two friends, my two buddies, the Buffalo's Sabers have been officially eliminated from the playoff race this past Tuesday after losing to the stars.
00:44:39
Speaker
go and guaranteed to finish significantly points wise below where they did last year. They had 91 points at the end of last year. They're at 81 points right now with two more cracks at the whip. So max points if they went out would be 85. They're guaranteed to finish six points below last year. That's not a small amount given where we expected them to be and where the expectations were for them. Nigel, what do you think?
00:45:07
Speaker
Do you want me to go now or do you want to, do you want to go first, Jake? No, I want to, I want to hear your unfiltered thoughts, man. Like an out word and edgewise. Cause now's your time. Okay. So I don't know. Everybody can see my, my little banner here underneath where it says Nige, where it says undoubtedly a better coach than Don Granado. Um, that is something I believe firmly in. And I think I could walk outside and pull.
00:45:33
Speaker
a drunk idiot off the street and say that they're a better coach than Don Granado. Okay, the last week or so I've been feeling like bummed, frustrated, upset, you know, sabers, 13 years, no playoffs. I don't know what the hell happened between this year and last year. Jake and I have thoughts, Tom and I have had thoughts. We think about it, we talk about it, but it's a massive, incredibly massive disappointment. I almost had a heart attack, didn't I?
00:46:02
Speaker
or the other morning when I woke up and I saw Don Granado's presser after the Dallas Stars game. And we'll start there. So Don Granado had the nerve to say that he was proud of the team and that he thought where they were was really great.
00:46:21
Speaker
And that he's happy that the expectations are high because look at where they've been the last several years. And he said that he wouldn't change anything. And that he was so proud of the guys for locking down the defense against the Capitals. And I'm here to remind you that it's fucking game 80.
00:46:40
Speaker
Who gives a shit that you're doing that at this point? You're like, you cannot, you cannot be the head coach of a hockey team that has missed the playoffs for a record setting 13 years and come out and say that you're fucking happy. Oh my God.
Criticism of Sabres' Coaching
00:47:00
Speaker
What a range complete fucking clown, dude. That made me so mad. It felt like somebody stuck their arm up my asshole and like wrestled around my organs and then just pulled everything out, dude. I was I was absolutely.
00:47:22
Speaker
I don't even have the words dude. I was so fucking mad. I just couldn't believe it. Like dude, where is your spine? Where is your competitiveness? Like I am someone who is ultra competitive dude and just listening to those words come out of the mouth of the guy that is in charge of the hockey team.
00:47:43
Speaker
No fucking wonder these guys were never ready to play a goddamn game. This guy has no balls. He's just a bitch, dude. I have nothing else to say about Don Granado other than he just has no spine, dude. There is no oomph there. The guy's just a wimp. I think he's a great player developer, and that's where he should be, is in player development, and that is it.
00:48:12
Speaker
The guy is not cut out to be the head coach of a hockey team. I don't care what happened last year. I know there were a bunch of guys that have career years, but dude, when your players come out as flat as they have in some of these must-win games recently, that is a direct representation of the coach. And the guys in the locker room will say that it isn't.
00:48:33
Speaker
And they're just they're just trying to cover asses, dude. I'm sorry. I have never had. That's not true, because Ralph takes the cake. I've never had less faith in a coach in my entire life. I just the.
00:48:49
Speaker
the lack of fire like I just can't fathom it dude and this is an emotional game you have to be fiery you have to be passionate if the three of us are on a line in the NHL together and somebody comes in cheap shots me I expect you to whether you saw it or not I expect you to to come and punch that guy in the face because that's the way that hockey is you play for the guy next to you always
00:49:14
Speaker
Right? And like, there's just no, there's no fire on this team until game fucking 80.
00:49:24
Speaker
when the buzzer rings and now Tate Thompson wants to start punching guys in the face and now Rasmus D'Alene wants to start scraps with guys and punch guys back and show some fire dude miss me with that shit I needed to see that 30 games ago dude why is it game 80 why are we doing it at the end of game 80 when we're eliminated
00:49:47
Speaker
I don't understand, dude. His voice, oh, Nite, you just went into the stratosphere, bro. He was blown away by it, dude. Where was any of that jam and that ash and that fire? Honestly, dude, and Jake, I think you'll disagree with me on this.
00:50:08
Speaker
20 games into the season when we were sitting right around 500 and we were all starting to see that this season wasn't going to be it, that is when that shit should have started to come out in my opinion. Send a goddamn message. If you're not going to be the same offensive team and you're going to be a 500 mediocre team, at least make teams worry about playing you.
00:50:31
Speaker
I want teams, I don't care what the record is, right? And it should have been better this year. But at one point, I'm sure we were 21 and 23 and three or something along those lines. At that point, dude, I want in the locker room for somebody to step up and say, you know what, boys? I want everyone on that opposing team's lives to be miserable tonight. And from that game going forward, when people see the Sabres on the schedule, I want them to go, fuck.
00:51:01
Speaker
Like we might win, but we're going to get our asses kicked physically. Or or or damn, these guys are these guys are going to play with some serious jam. The corners are going to be a battle. The you know, when we push, when we push Zach Benson, Erasmus, Dolly or Tish Thompson, someone's going to come and fucking say something about it. And they're like it. None of it happened until game 80 when literally nothing mattered. Nothing. And I'm just.
00:51:29
Speaker
All you can do is throw your hands in the air and say, what the fuck? I think that's it. I have a lot of thoughts. I don't disagree with you. I completely agree with you. I think there's there's a certain style of player that I think you're a lot more bullish on than me. That that is like the Ryan Reeves type.
00:51:53
Speaker
But to me, it's not about having a player like that. It's about having the mentality in your room to play for the guy next to you that seems to be lost a lot of the time in Buffalo's room. So I completely agree with you. Yeah, I want to see that. I wanted to see that 30, 40, 50, 80 games ago. But it's not been there. I completely agree with you that I think it is coaching. I think
00:52:17
Speaker
And I want to preface this by saying that the failures of the franchise are not the failures of this coach or these players. It's not necessarily their fault that the team hasn't made the playoffs for the last 13 years, but it is absolutely their fault that they did not make the playoffs this year. That should not be excused, and that is inexcusable.
00:52:40
Speaker
I agree with you. I think Don Granado is a great coach. I think he's an excellent coach, but a player development coach. I don't think he has what it takes to coach a bona fide NHL team into the playoffs. Maybe he does have the chops, but he did not show it this year. And goddamn, he fucking should have. He signed for an extension that kicks in next year. So their hands are a little tied. I don't know if,
00:53:08
Speaker
If he wasn't signed to that extension, I don't know if he's coming back in the fall. But Terry's already shelled out the oil money to him. So I think that there's a good chance that Don Granado is behind the bench on game one. With that said, I have a question for you. But the other thing first too is,
00:53:27
Speaker
It's clear that they're not ready to play. The most recent example of that is against Detroit a week or so ago, where they were still kind of in the race. They were there. They were right there. And they're playing against a team that is, one, a division rival, two, battling with them a few points away in the standings. And they came out so flat. They were down 3-0 in the first 10 minutes of the game. It's inexcusable. It's on the players, for sure.
00:53:57
Speaker
It's on the coach to motivate the players. Obviously, they're NHL players. They should be getting motivated for a game that they're getting paid thousands to go out and play. But at that point, you see it routinely. It's not clicking. There's something not clicking in the room, and that starts with coaching to me. You can't fire every player. You can get a voice in the room that's going to kick these guys in the ass and get them fucking prepared to play an NHL game. And it's not a game or two here and there. If it was a game or two here and there,
00:54:27
Speaker
I'd say, OK, you know, the boys had an off day, but it's it's like every every week or two. There's a game where they just come out flat. You you expect them to be down a goal to three goals in the first period. So anyways, yeah, that's coaching to me.
00:54:43
Speaker
I want to circle back to what I said about, I think there's a very high chance that Don Granada is behind the bench game one next season. How many games, how many games into the season next season does it take for them to fall on their face early in games, to get down in games early and not stick up for one another, get behind in the standings by game eight, nine and dig yourself a hole. How many games does it take until we see a coaching change that this team probably needs?
00:55:14
Speaker
OK. So if Don Granado is behind the bench game one, and Jake, I hate it, but I agree with you. I think there's a chance. I think Terry Pagula, if Don Granado is on the bench game one, Terry Pagula is going to run himself out of town. There is no clearer statement to me as a fan that
00:55:43
Speaker
You, I'm not going to say don't care, but you're not willing to do whatever it takes to win. Then Don Granado still being the coach of this team next year. I know he got the extension. I'm pretty damn sure that there's a chance. We're still paying Dan fucking Biles, ma, some money from being a coach a hundred years ago. We are paying so many coaches, so much money right now. And I'll be honest. I don't give a shit because Terry Pagula is a multi billionaire and none of these with a B.
00:56:13
Speaker
None of these coaches are making that much money. He could pay them all out today and not lose a lick of sleep over it. Not even feel the slightest dent in his bank account. He could write them all a check to
00:56:29
Speaker
pay them all out right now and would sleep like a baby. But if he chooses not to, there's no clear sign to me that Terry Pegula is not willing to do whatever it takes to make this savers team successful and he needs to let go of the team. That being said, if Granado's behind the bench next year, who's to say what his leash is because Terry has already indicated that he doesn't really care the way that we all want him to?
00:56:54
Speaker
I would like to think that his leash is exceptionally short and should be no longer than 15 games. If we are losing, if we have a losing record, and I don't care if it's, you know, you know, I don't know, whatever, if it's losing by a little bit. I'm having a brain fart and I'm not, I'm not bathing well.
00:57:15
Speaker
If he is, if he has a losing record early into the season, I don't care if it's by one game, he's, he's got to get the X because the team showed enough last year where we know what they're capable of. It's a good team that is horrendously underachieving. The only team that's underachieving more right now is New Jersey. And that's a separate issue in and of itself. But what did they do? They fired their fucking coach.
00:57:39
Speaker
Yeah. And they did not. It's hindsight is 20, 20. They also ignored their goaltending issue for far too long. True. That's, that's an issue in New Jersey, but that's another team. I fully expect them to be back in the playoff hunt next year. That's another team you're, you're battling that you didn't have to battle this year. What's up? We got, we got. I had three questions. Number one, how often
00:58:04
Speaker
How often does a NHL coach get fired mid-season? Fairly regularly. Don Granato is the sixth longest tenured head coach in the NHL. Okay. That's significant. He only got hired a few years ago, two years ago maybe, something like that. So yeah, it's often, it's a revolving door. If you're not winning, you're out.
00:58:26
Speaker
Okay, so then I have more questions um that often I was just trying to relate to what I know in the NFL it happens at least once a season out of the 32 teams at least one two three four five coaches get the axe mid-season and You know regardless of where they are in their contract um so does
00:58:52
Speaker
This is me trying to figure out Terry Bugula, because it's really interesting that Terry Bugula is the owner of both the Bills and the Savers, right? Like, I don't know how many franchises have this kind of situation. It is kind of interesting that he is the owner of both. I don't know if I have a ton of... I think he locked his way into Sean McDermott.
00:59:14
Speaker
and Brandon Bean, I really do. So I wonder if, will he take what is done on the NFL? And I guess it's clearly done on the NHL too. So I didn't know if it was a common denominator. Is it possible? Will he cut bait? I mean, NFL owners will cut bait on a coach that they owe multiple years of many tens of millions of dollars to. They'll cut bait and move on.
00:59:39
Speaker
Is that something that happens in the NHL? We've done that in our last four coaches. We're still paying coaches from like eight years ago. Okay. And there were seven, seven coaches in the NHL that got let go mid season this year. Yeah. Okay. Okay, cool. So, so the thought process is here. So if this doesn't happen, I think then we have to look at Terre Bregula, right? This is like at some point it's like, okay, hello. You got a doofus running the team at head coach. You got to just cut bait and he's not doing it.
01:00:06
Speaker
It's Terry Pagula and it's Kevin Adams too. Kevin Adams has repeatedly stuck up for Don Granado and to a degree I agreed with him and I really do genuinely like what Kevin Adams has done as general manager but I think it would be a big mark against him if he sticks by the same coaching staff.
01:00:28
Speaker
We'll see. I mean, I would love to be proven wrong, but I have a feeling it's going to be Don Granado as the head coach. And they're going to ask one or two of the assistants and bring in two assistants and make them the scapegoats. And I just think that's not enough for it to move the needle. But I think that's what's going to happen. I'm going to leave you with Jake. I want to leave you with one thought here. And this is I'm not exaggerating when I woke up at 2 a.m. the other night thinking about this, the fact that we let Michael Pekka walk to the Rangers.
01:00:57
Speaker
I can't think of a type of player that I would love to be behind the bench in any capacity, assistant or head. I can't think of a style player that I would like to be behind the Sabres bench right now more than a Michael Pekka. And we let him walk for nothing.
01:01:15
Speaker
yeah it's actually it's i'm getting pissed off about it literally right now he was that's that was a tough tough tough guy to lose yeah i think you want to talk about a two-way player when he when he played dude like that guy played with some fucking jam yeah he was definitely definitely yeah the the only the only other kind of
01:01:39
Speaker
I'll leave this out in the open too. I wonder if, if they do make a change, I wouldn't be surprised if it was a very short coaching search and they go with someone new who's never coached in the NHL before and is currently in the system. And that's Seth Apert coaching the Rochester Americans. What are your thoughts on that? I don't know. I mean, I,
01:02:04
Speaker
I think he's a good, I think he's a good coach too, but he's unproven. He's similar to Don Granado and never really coached the NHL. Um, it is usually a league that recycles head coaches with good success a lot. Like, like, look at Peter Labiolette came into the Rangers organization and they're, they're going to, they're, they're in a, in line to win the president's trophy. Like.
01:02:22
Speaker
I mean, there is a reason some of these guys are recycled. I think it's marked as a bad thing often, but it's not. They're at that position for so many teams for so long for a fucking reason. It's because they get the guys ready to play in the NHL. Tortorella.
01:02:38
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Lindy Ruff. I mean, the list goes on. So yeah, I wouldn't love it. But I'd be willing to give it a chance. But again, it's not so much the X's and O's that you coach. It's mentally preparing these guys for 82 grueling games of hockey. And that's hard to find.
01:02:59
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Yeah, I don't think Seth Evers the answer. Um, if, if I was going to handpick my coach right now, I'm sprinting to Garrett Galant's house. He, he's my guy right now. I just sitting at home and took that Vegas team in their first season of the Stanley Cup finals.
01:03:16
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Uh, like that guy, I got in for that guy, but I digress. That would be a good episode to do at some point, Jake, potential coaching, potential coaching. Yeah, we should, we should deep dive on that a little bit. Yeah. We're, we're pretty much out of time today, but yeah. Yep. You don't want to do another hour on coaches right now, but we, we certainly could. Yeah. We can talk all about, we can talk all about Craig Barubi being out there.
01:03:35
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I'll get another beer. I'll get another beer. Let's go. Oh, folks. Hey, this is a fiery episode, right? There's a lot going on. Um, we, uh, we have fun here. So please tell your friends, tell your coworkers, tell your dog.
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01:04:18
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