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Ep. 70 - 5x AFC EAST CHAMPS
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YOUR BUFFALO BILLS ARE FIVE TIME AFC EAST DIVISION CHAMPIONS. JOSH ALLEN IS THE FRANCHISE TOTAL TD LEADER. Enough said. GO BILLS!!!!
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going on everybody?
Introduction & Social Media Engagement
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You're listening to the let's go buffalo podcast your favorite podcast for all things bills and sabers with the bells Nigel will be joining us and jake episode 70 coming at you folks You know the joke big reminder of all the social medias. You can find us on all of them with the handle at let's go off jake i'm gonna have sir in the handle my guy to who two F's in the handle we're on all of them instagram x youtube tiktok if you're watching on youtube do us a huge favor drop a like drop a comment really helps us out with the algorithm that goes for any of y'all that check this out if you could take 10 seconds and go and just spam the youtube page a little bit same handle at let's go above buff pod whoa at let's go buff pod super helpful just kind of helps us get going with the algorithm a little bit there
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And let's get all around here and say hello to my
Thanksgiving Experiences & Beer Talk
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buddies. Jake, what's going on, my guy? Hey, I'm good, man. Good week. Thanksgiving last week hosted some family and friends. So it was nice, man. at A lot of a lot of shit and got back to the gym yesterday. So how are you? good Good for you. How are you doing? Nice man. Yeah, I forgot. I hope everybody had a great Thanksgiving. Probably would have been a good way to start.
00:01:44
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ah Yeah, dude, also had a great holiday. It was just me and my honey. We stayed down here in Nashville um and we made ourselves a kick ass breakfast. And then we rotted on the couch watching Harry Potter. Well, we did get some work done on the old laptops while we were hanging out. And then we got some takeout from our favorite dive bar, dude. So kind of an unorthodox Thanksgiving, but I was here for it. That's so relaxing. Dude, the the Harry Potter movies in the fall.
00:02:11
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ah Yeah, that's awesome. It's different. dude Yeah, so it was a good one, dude. Um, ah Jake, would you believe it? I actually, for real this time, have a beer. Would you like to? I would love to. Look at you. Beer toting. I know, dude. Unbelievable. With that said, we still do need a punishment for you because this, this might be an anomaly.
00:02:37
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I do have some, I have some thoughts. So but we'll talk about them in just a second. All right, here we go. Ready? Three, two, one.
00:02:48
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Cheers. Well, hey, you you picked him up. What do you what are you drinking? What's on the app? Yeah. So um there is there's like a great little beverage spot by my apartment here in Nashville. um And ah tonight was actually the first time I had ever been in there. Tommy, ti we just opened beers, buddy. Would you like to join us real quick? I have my glass of milk with me. Yes.
00:03:13
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at my eggnog. You can't see it with my cool little background here. Oh my god, Tom, I wish it was just lukewarm 2% milk. that you Yeah, that would be that would be even better. enough nows Cheers. I got eggnog season, baby. sesec Love that. Well, I was just discussing my beer when Tom joined us. Tom, first of all, real quick, how was your Thanksgiving, Bill? That was lovely. Very quiet. I had a couple extra days off of work, which was lovely and just hang with the family. We got some snow and some ice. So just hung out and turned on the the the wood stove and we just hunkered down. It was nice. So hell yeah, dude. Awesome. yeah Glad to hear it, brother.
00:03:48
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um Well, so I was just talking about the beverage center that is by my house, really a nice spot. um But and I've never been in there until tonight, but I was like, man, I'm sure I'll be able to craft my own six pack there. No. So I grabbed a um on one IP assortment of from one of my breweries that I know I like down here. So um tonight I am drinking the Homestyle IPA by the company Bearded Iris down here in the South. So that's super delicious, nice little IPA action. um And I want to touch base real quick on my punishment situation. and okay In this assorted IPA pack, um there's 12 beers and there's six of them are double IPAs, okay? Now, I would like to request that it's not on like a Monday night. But if we can manage to get a pod where I don't have to work the next day,
00:04:41
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I think I should have to crush two, maybe three of those doubles over this man of a one hour podcast. that Hell yeah, bro. Yeah, let's do it. I feel like shotgun one of them. Yeah. yeah yeah the The beer, the beer popping. If that we do at the beginning, that's a shot. but Okay. All right. i'll I'll agree to shotgun one of them, or at least try to. I think my shotgun and days, it might be a little rusty boys, but I'll absolutely do my best. And I think that's also fair. I should have to shotgun a double. So I'm signing up for that. If that's, if that's agreeable by everybody. I agree. I
Buffalo Bills: Triumphs & Strategies
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agree. We'll try not to do that for you on a Monday night when you got to get up at whatever time. and Yeah. Early enough. That sounds like a hip round, but yeah.
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Hey, what are you doing? Oh man. Uh, I'm drinking a repeat, uh, to be honest with you guys, it's, it's planning an escape. Uh, much like you after watching the savers over Thanksgiving break. Uh, it's a hazy IPA from a brewery in my town. Uh, so yeah, it's a tasty little guy finishing off the four pack. Oh yeah, dude. Love that. Tell us about your nog, your noggin. Oh yeah. It's a little bit, uh, hood.
00:05:53
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Nog, just straight from the, you know, oh yeah nothing, nothing to to high ends and just a couple of fingers of cracking a dark rum. And it's delicious. it's It's this is the season. This is my month to have some eggnog. So also, do you kind of put your own together there, Tom? Yeah, I mean, I buy eggnog. I buy a carton of eggnog from the store. And then I had you add own i add my own stuff. Yeah. Oh, yeah. It doesn't come spiked. You know that, right?
00:06:22
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Well, you can get the Evan Williams nog that will that will come spiked. That's I got to be a connoisseur. All right. Yeah, that's that's. I'm learning new things. That's my Christmas Eve drink is the Evan Williams. My uncle typically brings about, oh, I don't know, six bottles. um And we usually do make a pretty good day. So, dude, my dad goes to ah like an eggnog making party every year and has it around Christmas time. And it's like they're making the eggnog and adding the booze. It's it's really good. So if he's listening, save me some for Christmas.
00:06:51
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Yeah. Oh, hell yeah. I've done that once and it's really good. It's just hard. So it's probably not as hard as probably I was just years ago. So I'll have to try that again. But yeah this is the season, boys. Yeah, dude. I know. it's I know. It's your drink of choice this time. here you should You should make some. All right, boys. Well, hey, cheers. Let's talk some Buffalo sports, eh?
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Yeah. Well, Tom, since you're here, should we start with with the fun side of things? Because the sabers are back to being super shitty. Tom, nice. Hey, nice hat, buddy. Hey, what does it say? Nice. Oh, hold on. time I don't remember. Let me look real quick. at my so say it and He's champions. What's your say, Tom? My, my, Hey, also AFCE champions. boy Wait a minute. I don't see any green on those hats. Are you guys sure you bought the right ones? No, no, we got it. We got the air force controller. Yeah.
00:07:39
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but the yeah The airline controller is also telling me the same thing and also as well as the dolphin keeper so um yeah yeah no dude voice I almost ah I almost opened the pod today with congratulations to the Miami Dolphins on winning the division Yeah, it's nice. Guys, this is like this is stuff out of like wildest dreamlands, right? Yes, quote, Joe Miller. Like this is this is wildest dreamlands. This is the stuff that we'd see Tom Brady and the New England of Patriots do for years and years and years because the division stunk. Well, guess what? The division still stinks, but we're on top of it and clearly on top of it. Right. Like so fun. Guys, this is the time. This is it right now.
00:08:23
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Yeah, it's it's and I get like you're touching on and the so the like the thing that's really important here Tom and that is just to remember to enjoy soak up every moment because we as bills fans know we're so jaded do like things are things are great and we're like enjoy it because someday it's going to be bad again.
00:08:40
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um But yeah, dude, like we know what it feels like to suck. And for once, for once, dude, the guy that everybody wishes was on their team is on our team. And dude, the fact of the matter is, like and i kind of I kind of put it towards the beginning of my notes here, the difference of everything right now, like the the the main difference comes back to you this. This is the bottom line when it comes to the bills.
00:09:08
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We have Josh Allen and you don't. Yeah. And that's pretty much what it can be boiled down to, thought which is, yeah which is just, yeah, I don't know. Should we, um, should we talk about some things? Like maybe it's going to take away of something we liked or maybe even did not like and throw it on the horn here. Jake, you want to start with the not like, yeah, get out of here with that. You will be on stage.
00:09:32
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ah Well, Jake, what's something that you enjoyed from the game? Yeah, I mean, there's plenty to go around there. I'll i'll take the very low hanging fruit. And that's ah the MVP of the NFL, Josh Allen. It seems that way. MVP. MVP. Dude, what a game. I mean, he's been playing really well this year. And and that was just another level. like Like somebody let him out of the cage last night.
00:10:01
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I'm kind of speechless. so it was it it was It was dominant. And his like he didn't have a fuckload of passing yards or running yards or anything like that. But just the way he distributed and and just toyed with that defense was incredible to watch. I mean, were you were you guys just like bouncing in your chair watching that game?
00:10:21
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I don't think I sat down the entire game, dude. i was yeah And that's mostly just because I'm an anxious sports watcher, but like, I mean, dude, like, I mean, the the play, the touchdown, we all know what I'm talking about.
00:10:35
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I stood there speechless and like looked over at my roommate. We were hanging out watching the game and like look back at the TV and my jaw was just on the floor, dude. Like that was all like I couldn't get anything to come out. No, there were no sounds or anything like that. My jaw was just on the floor and I stood there like an absolute idiot. I don't even begin.
00:10:57
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i mean dude josh is absolutely tapped in the head dude i mean like i mean like this dude is berserk absolutely mentally nuts tom And he doesn't think twice. The guy just ghosts. It's so cool. it's Yeah, that that play was amazing. The guy has two of the best plays, the top two plays of the season um of in the NFL, um to two games in a row, bye week in the middle, but two games in a row. Josh Allen owns both of them. um that That play was um unfreaking believable. It was just so much fun. I agree. I was also just, the baby was asleep at that point, so I had a whisper yell. But oh my god. yeah Oh, it was so cool.
00:11:37
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um Josh Allen, it starts and ends with him. um i also I want to shout out the running game. I think our three running backs. I love the fact that Joe Brady is getting all three going. All three showed some spark last night, um had well over four and a half yards per carry, all three. um And just it was it was a dominant performance. um Clearly, both sides of the ball could run, right? I think that was the big thing we heard. We heard Tariko and Collins were talking over and over again. Hey, like,
00:12:06
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the D line was having trouble getting off the ball right that on both sides of the ball so it was but it was great to see that the bills were able to capitalize and keep that going regardless of who was carrying the ball James Cook looked awesome that 65 year old scamper down the down the right sideline fastest play he's ever had in the NFL um the guy looked awesome Ty Johnson looks, looks, ah looks fantastic. Ray Davis punched one in for a touchdown. All three. I think that's a such a great sign for more of these style games in the future. Yeah. And, and not to, not to get too far ahead of us here, but looking ahead to next week, LA is another team that can be had, uh, in terms of running the football and offense. So, uh, let's, let's keep that fresh there. Um, yeah, dude, a hundred percent agree, Tom. the I mean, over 200 yards rushing, it's, I mean,
00:12:56
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You can't, right? you can't against what You can't complain. No, no, you can't. um My thing that I was super stoked about, um and I tried to really keep a close eye on him last night, but um and came away kind of not bummed, but just like nothing to really hang my hat on, I guess. um And that changed when I got a good opportunity to watch a good chunk of film today, which doesn't always happen. um So we'll talk about some things there. But boys, Matt Milano looked a lot like Matt Milano, dude. Hey, OK. The guy was closing gaps quickly in terms of space. Like there was one play in particular um where I don't remember who caught the ball, but but it was probably like eight yards in front of him. um And there were other guys that were closer, like guys on defense that were closer to the ball carrier. But did Milano just being.
00:13:44
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the the processor that he is and the athlete that he was or that he is that click and close and not only the click and close but the click and close to take the right angle and take out this this ball carrier's feet immediately for like maybe one yard after the catch I mean dude like it was outstanding I watched him I was obviously concerned thinking about the strength of the bicep watched him pull guys down into like in tackles really flexing that bicep hard looked great doing that got right up no you know shaking of the arm or anything like that um the iq was still there man he's there was one particular zone cutback run that i saw um where he pursued it perfectly he didn't over commit and as soon as um what's his face the san francisco backup running back made his cut into open space malano was right there to take him down for like a two-yard gain
00:14:36
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I mean, and he only got better as the game went on, dude. He maybe looked a little bit shaky to start, but have no fear about Mamelano, folks, because he looks nice way yeah ahead, way ahead of what I thought he would look like first, first game back. Heck yeah. I mean, it was a lot of snaps, right? He ba lee played every snap that wasn't a dime look, meaning yeah that ah another ah defensive back came in and they pulled the linebacker off the field. um Was not expecting that. I was expecting to him to have 15, 20 snaps and you know, hop in there and and look good, but this was awesome. So I think that that what that says is the bill's training staff is very comfortable with knowing where they are on his recovery. um ah Otherwise, they wouldn't have asked him to do this, right? We've seen other players come back from big injuries like him in and have a different kind of ramp up period. So I love it. That's awesome. Good for him. I agree when I first was watching from, I have not had time to watch film yet, but I'm just watching the game. I didn't see anything like that splashed out, but I also didn't see him get had anywhere. So I was like, all right, Matt had a solid game and I, you know, let's keep going and looking for it. But it's cool to hear that he yeah flashed more than maybe I thought.
00:15:39
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Yeah, no, I wouldn't even say flash. Just just played solid. Just just good, good work that you could expect from from a man. Milano. So I think that's worth mentioning. Oh, yeah. um Can I can I shout out Mr. Taylor at Mr. Guy? I was ready to write off at the end of last season and say, I don't know what Sean McDermott sees in this guy. um He seems to be a liability. He is flying around injuring our own players. um This was all last season, folks. I'm not not talking about 2024. This is medicine today.
00:16:08
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Night and day, I will absolutely I will sign the card. I will tell me what to say and I will happily apologize. The guy's been playing great every year. i Sorry, every game this year he's he's just been showing up and doing playing solid, which I think is exactly what Sean McDermott is expecting of his defensive backs, right? Go in, play smart, know what to do, make plays on the ball. He had two plays that essentially erased 14 points for the um the Niners last night.
00:16:33
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He had the little shoestring tackle on Christian McCaffrey, who would have been gone. That guy, he was the last line of defense, and it was by the tip of his tippy finger. And he got him, got him down. That took seven points off the board. And then the punch in the fallout when Jordan Mason was literally like half a yard from the end zone. it was That was going to be a touchdown. If that wasn't punched out, it was a touchdown. Punched out, Christian Benford picked it up and was able to have a big return.
00:17:00
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like That's an electric play for him to be able to have that sense of being able to be at the ball make those plays I love it. This is I want to shout out to their app. He was a big he made some big plays last night 100% deserved dude. Yeah, I mean that peanut punch dude. I mean he squared up and through one Hell of a right hook, dude. I mean, yeah just uncorked it. And then, yeah, great athleticism by Benford to be able to manage to not only pick it up and run, but like, I mean, I can, imagine I can see my dumb ass like trying to catch that ball and immediately slipping. Um, so yeah, dude, just, you know, just, just, just an awesome turn of events there. Um, Jake, did you want to shout out anything else about the, about that Bill's game? I got a couple notes that I want to go through here, but I have some more.
00:17:45
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i'll I'll take one. Yeah, I noticed on the broadcast they were talking about the Bills defensive line and they they mentioned Greg Russo's name and then he came out of nowhere with a huge play. I forgot exactly what he did, but he he stopped a play. ah Cold dead in its tracks. um that that dude's That dude's a monster. he He's due for a big big pay raise when whenever it comes.
00:18:09
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Tom, was that one of yours? Greg Russo or no? It was on the list. Yeah. That guy's so good. Just playing out of his mind. Um, his ability to defend the run and get off of a block and they close is just scary. It's terrifying. That sack now, now here's the thing. Okay. And I, Greg Russo is obviously a menace and he's going to get paid and he's going to get paid by the bills and as he should.
00:18:36
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He should have had like three sacks last night. And unfortunately he only had one. There was one that was like an egregious mess and one that like, I think, ah like if it was scale of one to 10, 10 being, he absolutely should have had it in one, like it would have been a hell of a play. Probably put it at like a four or five yeah somewhere in there. What would have liked to have seen him have it. But I mean, dude, the one sack that he did have,
00:19:03
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Yeah, I mean six seven two sixty seven coming at you at that speed bro. It was I like it was one two three steps by Greg Russo Purdy on the ground and in that time it took Greg Russo to take three steps Rock pretty took about 15, bro it was I mean I said I was watching the tape today and sent sent a little video in the group chat dude like That was ah astonishing that humans, the here an athleticism to move that fast at that size. I mean, dude, I'm going to say it again. Three seven, right around 270 pounds. That's a freak, dude. That is a freak of nature. Yeah. Gregor, so problems. And Purdy's not. hes He's a good athlete. That's part of yeah his his strength is being able to scurry around and scramble and make plays and, you know, play outside of structure. That's part of one of his strengths. So, yeah, absolutely.
00:19:54
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um One thing I want to shout out is that, uh, when it's too tough for them, it's just right for us. yes sir The bills were clearly ready to play in this snow. It was not a problem. Yes. They slipped around a little bit. I think they, um, we heard Collins worth say a couple of times that they would kind of seem like they were not playing a hundred percent speed football, which I would agree, but the bills are ready for it. They Josh Allen is weatherproof. I never wanna hear anybody say anything again. If, oh man, it's gonna be windy. Oh no, it's gonna be rainy. Oh man, it's gonna be negative seven. um I don't care. Josh Allen's gonna play um just out of his mind.
Josh Allen's Record-Breaking Achievements
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He's weatherproof. The way that he was able to sling that ball, there's a couple of down the field of shots to Dawson Knox that were just gorgeous.
00:20:38
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Brock already couldn't tie his freaking shoes. and And Josh Allen could do whatever he pleased. He played just how he wanted. And um Josh Allen wasn't the only one, right? The rest of the team, this defense was able to show up, make plays. We saw the Niners slip all over the place. 65 and sunny is not the way to prepare for a ah ah and know ah snowball game here in Buffalo. So I love that. um Yeah.
00:21:04
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That was like they were ready to play in this weather. The supporting cast, too, I think, played a big part. Like, obviously, Josh Allen's the the star and and made it all happen. But the supporting cast was great that that receiving touchdown that Josh Allen had. Amari Cooper reached behind him to get that ball.
00:21:21
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and you know just made an insane athletic play back to him. Matt Collins... In this weather. Yeah, Matt Collins was covered and and leapt out to greg grab that corner ball. He got some good results from the the supporting cast around him. They're not they're not superstars. like yeah no Nobody's picking Matt Collins to be the star of that game, but that touchdown was a big turning point. like that That put him up. um so yeah i mean The whole offense was kind of clicking last night despite the not-so-great conditions.
00:21:49
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Yeah. And don't forget, dude, it was clicking in the not so great conditions without Dalton Kincaid and without Keon freaking Coleman, dude. So there's still room for this team to, you know, do better. You know, it's like, it's we're still not playing, still not playing like our best football, which, I mean, it's still not time to play our best football, but like,
00:22:15
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Yeah, dude, like, let's like, I mean, that throw to Amari Cooper that ended up being the play, like, what was that, dude? It was a horrible throw by Josh. It's not good. He even said it in his post game press or like man he was he was following the ball because he didn't want it to get tipped and intercepted. He was going to help, like, make sure that play like died. Josh Allen went towards that ball to run a pick six. That's what Josh Allen did. Yeah, he just happened to be there. Amari Cooper had the wherewithal to send it, you know, just to toss it back. And then Josh Allen's a freakin nature to just Superman his way across the the end zone.
00:22:45
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I dude, I'm trying to imagine like if you're a Mario Cooper and you're looking back at Josh Allen right there, getting ready to lateral that ball. Josh Allen's got to be standing like looking there, just kind of like like smiling a little bit like like exactly you like over the ball i mean anyway. Got it. yeah Just so good. So good. I just it was fun. That's all I took away from this game. That was the biggest thing is like, my God, how fun is this team? They are clearly having fun, right?
00:23:15
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Guys, Sean McDermott, I know angel he's uptight. He's not Bill Belichick, who's just a grump in the Grinch. Right. But he's also not a you know overly expressive guy. He's doing snow angels on ESPN with Josh Allen after this game. Yeah. you Kidding me like this team.
00:23:33
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The vibes are at all time high. This team is playing for each other. They love each other. They love what they're doing. They love this game. And that's all you can ask from this team. And I think that's what's propelling this squad, which may not be as talented as what we've had in the past. That's what's propelling, right quote unquote, talented. I would have totally agree. I think there're they're magnifying each other and just building each other up in such a beautiful way. And it's so fun to see. And how cool is it that we get to root for them? It's so easy to root for this team.
00:24:03
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Talent's great. You need talent, but talent does not make a good team inherently. So good. Look at the jets.
00:24:13
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Look at the dolphins. Can't see him. Sorry. Too far down. Can't see him. Can't see him from way up here. Dermot absolutely should be doing snow angels, dude. That stadium looked like a riot. Oh, my God. I was having some FOMO last night.
00:24:32
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Yeah, we got to get to one of these games at some point, boys. We got to do it. We know games are the snow games are different, dude, if as long as it's not like a like if you can just wear like, ah you know, a couple layers and be comfortable, like as long as it's not like a shit snow game. yeah Like I don't mind the snow coming down while I'm there, but like this starts to like rain while the snow. Yeah. Yeah. that gets yeah anyway Yeah. Yeah. Dude, I had the game. up my My dear wife was like, oh, my God, look at all the snow. It looks miserable out there. And I was like,
00:24:59
Speaker
Meghan, I would give anything to go out in that snow with all those best fans, dude. I showed, Tom, you said a clip in the group chat yesterday of those guys off the snowbank through the table. yeah and i And I showed my girlfriend, and I was like, oh my God, oh my the vibes are good they're so good. Everyone's having so much fun. And she's like, oh my God, it can be so stupid. And I'm like, yeah, I've never done that in my life. oh like Never once come through a table. Certainly I never jumped off it or jumped onto it while it was on. fire, have done, have done. I don't think she's going to listen to this. so right well that's That's probably why we're all still in a relationship, that's right all three of us. um Can we also just talk about Sean McDermott? I'm sorry, to like I know we're completely tangential.
00:25:47
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This is too much fun to contain. It's too much fun. That guy has been coaching his ass off. i I am. I also owe him an apology. There was a time where I was, you know, we we we talked about it on this podcast into these microphones that ah he was entering hot seat territory. He's completely. It's gone. It's gone for me. I don't care. um The guy.
00:26:08
Speaker
While he, yes, is flawed. There's no coach who makes every decision correctly. Nowhere in this league, nowhere in the history of this league has every coach made every right decision ever. This guy has shown his ability to grow and make new changes, change the way that he approaches the game and the way he approaches coaching.
00:26:27
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and He's brought more out of these players than I think we ever could have imagined. I think what Brandon Bean set him up with and then he's able to mold is incredible. And I think Sean McDermott absolutely has a case for coach of the year, considering what was expected of this Bills team and the injuries that we've sustained and come back from. So I just shout out Sean McDermott. I love your buddy here. Cheers to you, dude. And you can be the coach in the Buffalo Bills for as long as you want.
00:26:56
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, he does deserve a shout out. He has been pushing all of the right buttons lately for sure. I think the only thing that can honestly be preventing him from getting a coach of the year candidate is the fact that Josh Allen is putting up the MVP bid that he is. i feel like I feel like people can make the argument that it is difficult to win.
00:27:15
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or difficult to lose when you have a Josh Allen. Um, that could be the only thing, but I mean, you're right. Everybody and their mother predicted either the jets or the dolphins to win the division this year. And we want it on checking my watch here December 1st. So at least he's being the conversation, you know, like, yeah, he probably won't win it. Cause it's usually it's a low, it's a low, you know, low fruit team, low hanging fruit team. And, um,
00:27:41
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not necessarily a team as high flying as the Bills, but you know, I still want to be in the conversation. I want to give them a shout out. You don't think people predicting the Jets, Dolphins to win the division and predicting the Bills to stumble will factor into that? I think it will. I guess I haven't put what much thought of who else could. So that could be another conversation for another day. Maybe if we need to fill some time at some point, but um Yeah, I just wanted to be part of the conversation. um Shout him out. He's he's been coaching his butt off this entire staff up and down. The whole roster has been awesome. Yeah. Yeah. Brought the bills to their fifth consecutive division championship. And that's a franchise record. I mean, it's historic stuff. And there's another historic thing I think we should talk about, too. No. Yeah. Laid on the streak.
00:28:30
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No, no, no, someone else. got I don't want to misquote it, but I know it there's a hair there's two. There's two. The first is that Josh Allen is the first quarterback to record a passing touchdown, a rushing touchdown and a receiving touchdown triple threat in one game. He's the first quarterback to ever do it. There have been other ah position players to do it, but ah he's the first quarterback. And I think that's that's just another stick on the wall sticker on the wall for Josh Allen's MVP.
00:29:00
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you just imagine just a big old wall full of just different sticks yeah i don't know i did gives me a microphone
00:29:11
Speaker
that's great metaphor right now it's the thing now we got make it a thing boys yeah yeah the sentiments yeah yeah for sure yeah
00:29:22
Speaker
Thanks for amusing me guys, I appreciate it thank you So there's one. And then number two, Josh Allen is now surpassed Sir Jim Kelly for leading the entire NFL. Sorry, the Buffalo Bills franchise in ah in touchdowns, total touchdowns for the franchise and franchise history. So.
00:29:41
Speaker
Um, he has, uh, 247, I believe, if somebody can maybe, uh, find that number, but just ridiculous. He's young, right? they get The guys, he's going to reset that. And that, I don't think that will ever be broken. I don't think we're going to see anybody come close to that. Whatever he's going to end up, it's, it's going to be gargantuan. It's going to be a high number. That is, yeah that is for goddamn sure. Because I mean, in a perfect world, Josh Allen's got, I mean, another 10 years.
00:30:08
Speaker
I did. Yeah. Sign me up. I'll write the check. Well, Tom, you can write a check. It won't get off. It won't cash, but I'll write it. I will write a massive number on this check. It'll be useless, but. Yeah. Yeah, it's asking. Look at it, but.
00:30:23
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's going to, it's going to completely rewrite the record books, um, hopefully for the bills and then hopefully for the NFL. Like I think the guy's on a trajectory. That's just unparalleled. I think we, we just get numb to the first ever to do this kind of thing. Right. I feel like it's multiple times a season. We hear Josh Allen has done X, Y and Z that's never been done before and setting a new NFL record for most times to do this or to do that or
Bills' Defensive Tactics
00:30:50
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franchise rec. Like it's, it's multiple times a season.
00:30:53
Speaker
that this guy is just smashing the record books, and it's it's just commonplace for the guy. Yeah, it is commonplace. You're absolutely right about that, Tom. It it is something that is mentioned pretty much every year yeah with him. Thorpedo, you mentioned to me a little... Did you ask a question about defense and stuff like that, or did did you do that already? No, but I... Yeah, I wanted to talk about that for a minute. We've seen... Yeah, so we talked about the...
00:31:22
Speaker
defensive line, you know, your, your, your Greg Russo's Von Miller's causing a lot of chaos in pursuing the quarterback and disrupting them from their flow. But we've also seen the same defense give up some big run plays. And I know that's kind of the Bill's DNA, giving up light boxes, allowing teams to get the run going. But this is, this is more a basic question, kind of pulling the microscope back, but what What part of the defense is is most responsible for run defense? like Are those guys kind of expected to factor into that or are they more about the pass rushing? Can you just talk about that a little bit? It's just kind of a general question I had. For sure. Tom, do you mind if I go? Yeah, please. I'll i'll chime in when you're when you're done.
00:32:06
Speaker
Yeah, so um so we've talked before about how the the bills run out of tip what is called a nickel defense, meaning they carry an extra defensive back on the field ah compared to most teams, as most teams run what is called a 4-3 defense, meaning four down defensive linemen, three linebackers, and then four defensive backs. What the bills do is do four down defensive linemen,
00:32:30
Speaker
two linebackers and five defensive backs hence the nickel name right nickels worth how many cents top by Excellent. Good. Good math thing on this podcast. So that inherently in and of itself would on paper lead teams to believe that running is going to be the option against the bills. Now, what they don't account for is that that nickel guy, that fifth guy, that defensive back is a guy by the name of Taron Johnson, who is probably the best, if not a top two nickel back corner in the league. And what makes him different than the rest of the nickels in the league is that while he is under the category of defensive back,
00:33:07
Speaker
He plays downhill like like a linebacker. Now, he's not the size or frame of a linebacker, but the guy plays like an absolute nutcase and will blow up anybody that moves. So you have a mentality there from a defensive back that usually belongs to maybe that of a linebacker.
00:33:26
Speaker
Now, despite Taryn Johnson's tendency to be a great run stopper, you are still talking about a guy that is a defensive back with a lighter frame. So when teams are going to run and they're blocking with, you know, at least five down offensive lineman, maybe a six jumbo tight end, you know, out of these power formations, you still have high 200, 300 pound guys that are blocking your nickel corner like Taryn Johnson.
00:33:52
Speaker
So, you know, the bills are always going to be susceptible to the run because they just have smaller guys on the field. Now, they're smaller guys are better than everybody else's smaller guys. And that's why it gets they get away with it. Right. The other thing we're finding and why the run game is taking an extra hit this year is compared to the last two years, Daquan Jones and Ed Oliver are simply shells themselves.
00:34:16
Speaker
Sorry, that might be harsh but Daquan Jones in particular as the one tech is not playing at even remotely Close to the level that he played the last two years I'm watching him get blown off the ball kind of a lot and it's affecting at Oliver because at Oliver and this goes for Terrell Bernard and that Milano as well are the most effective when we have a ah ah one tech that is able to soak up some blocks and keep those guys free and Right? So with Daeke Jones taking the step back that he did and getting blown off the ball. Now you have blockers quicker, more quickly getting to that second level, getting hands on Terrell Bernard, getting hands on Matt Milano. And I don't think Ed Oliver's film last year did him any favors for for teams preparing for him.
00:35:00
Speaker
this year. So to the short answer to your question is the bills intentionally choose a smaller personnel grouping that makes them more susceptible to the run. What is the most important thing with that personnel grouping stopping the run? It is your one-tech defensive lineman being able to soak up more contact than we're seeing Daequan Jones soak up right now. How do I do? Tom, anything you want to add?
00:35:22
Speaker
Yeah, no, that was great. i um I want to take a different kind of like take like ah look from a different perspective. um What is the thing that wins NFL games? What is what makes you win a game? The line of scrimmage. Cool. And then what do you do when you get to the end of the field? You score six points. Cool. So the bills with this ability and willingness to um to play light boxes and dare you to run the ball, they will give you what you want between the twenties. There's, it's kind of a phrase in NFL kind of, um, coaching and philosophy is between the twenties, you can do what you want, so but we're going to crunch down and we're going to hold you at the red zone and not let you score. um How many points did the Niners have? How very many how many points did the Bills have?
00:36:10
Speaker
lot 35. So um I as the the math maths there right where the bills will allow you to take some time and let kind of give you what you want to let you play and make you try and sustain a drive between the 20s and then boy oh boy challenge you to put the score in the red zone.
00:36:29
Speaker
Now, their red zone defense has not been as stellar as it's been in the past, but I think it's starting to heat up, especially as we're getting healthier. um This game in particular, they did great, held them to 10 points, right? A touchdown and a field goal. um So I think, um but that's just a one example of, hey, we'll let you have what's in the middle, but we're not going to let you score at the end. so So um and that's the kind of another philosophy take of it. ok Now that once you get down in the um below the 20, good luck, and we're going to try and hold you to three, or even less, and punch the ball out for a peanut punch, and take the final recovery. So um that's that's another philosophical kind of just approach that the Bills take, where they know they're going to let you have what you what you want there, and then essentially force you into doing other things. And then then just to put a bow on it,
00:37:20
Speaker
We've talked about it before, but you as ah as a fan of the bills, you just have to go into every game knowing that they're going to concede rushing yards. It's the way they're designed to operate. They're designed to operate to take away the pass. And then you have a unicorn like Taryn Johnson, who can be a lot closer to a linebacker than 98 percent, 99 percent of and other nickel cornerbacks in this league. So um you just need to be OK with that as a bills fan. And we saw last night, like Tom just said, I mean, they both up in the red zone like crazy.
00:37:50
Speaker
so yeah you know to put a bow on Nigel's bow we got another point we're doing so good here Nigel this is good we're taking them to school I like it y'all are just getting ready for Christmas god damn yeah no this is good yeah I got bows coming up my butt um um the other thing is is that I have to talk now don't I you are a gift Tom thank you thank you you're welcome yeah yeah you're welcome um And the, the bills also designed their defense to play with the lead, they're expecting Josh Allen to go out and Josh Allen and put up points. If a defending an opponent is behinds, they're less likely to be able to run and be willing to run because they need to move the ball quickly and score. So they're passing, which guess what leads right lets plays right into the bills hand of
00:38:38
Speaker
All right, great. We're going to play light boxes and we're going to have a better passing defense and we're going to let your run all you want because guess what? That soaks up the clock and honestly helps us because we're ahead and we want you to have less possessions to we have less opportunities to get back and ah give ah
Preview of Upcoming Bills vs. Rams Game
00:38:52
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recover a lead. So it's another just philosophical way that they approach the game to let the defense and the offense and the special teams um play complimentary football and support each other.
00:39:03
Speaker
thank That's nice stuff, guys. Thank you. But you weren't expecting all that, huh, Jake? I think I just picked up a college credit or two, I think. Yeah, there's going to be a quiz at the end, so get ready. Oh, fuck. So anyway, I think, we wow, we've talked quite a bit about this ah this game. um Such a fun game. but Folks, go watch. Go to YouTube. Watch Search Bill's Niners Highlights, and just watch it again. Enjoy it. You should do that for, honestly, many of the games this season. Go enjoy it. and Have fun with it.
00:39:32
Speaker
um we are Next week, we're going to LA. We have two road games coming up. We're going to LA to play the Rams. And then after that, we're going to Detroit. That'll be a fun game to talk about, but we'll save that for next week. um This LA Rams, they are a kind of in the middle of their division in the NFC West. they're ah they They can be lethal, but they're also kind of a shell of what this team was that went to the Super Bowl a few years ago.
00:39:56
Speaker
um Their defense is not nearly as potent because they don't have the best defensive player of our debt of our generation, Aaron Donald, playing for them anymore. um And the the offense can get going, but I think it can be had, right? I think it's Matt Stafford, it's Kyron Williams, it's Pukadukua, Cooper Cup. But again, if if you can find ways that their their offensive line cant can be had.
00:40:20
Speaker
So you can get after Matthew Stafford and really affect him. And then all of a sudden he's not, you know, he's in his mid thirties, right? The guy is cannot what he used to be. So if you can affect him and kind of get him off the ball and get him off his spot, he can be really good and really lethal, but you can also affect this offense and push, um, and kind of, uh, have your way with them. Yeah.
00:40:42
Speaker
Um, a couple, I mean, you know, the Rams are there six and six. Um, I think, did you mention that time? I don't know. Anyway, it doesn't matter. record No. Yeah. So the Rams are six and six. They're, they're a team. You know, I feel like I watched them one game. They look great. And I watched them another game and and everybody looks lost, but just a couple of numbers on the Rams. Um, offensively they're 18th in total yards. They're 11th in passing, but they're 26 and rushing. So, you know, just to touch on what we were just talking about with the bills, this is a game where the bills defense.
00:41:09
Speaker
right the way they structure their defense shapes up well right a team that is not much better against the in terms of passing the ball which makes sense you got an absolute gunslinger like Matt Stafford not so great in the running game you know you're gonna want your team to be equipped like the like the bills defenses i think this bill's defense goes into this ram's game super ready and super outfitted to have a productive game against them Um, a couple more numbers there, um, offensively, they are dog shit on third down. They're only converting 32.6%. That's 30th in the league. That is bad, bad, bad, bad, bad. So, you know, don't let them get, or let I mean, if they, if they get to third down, you know, don't let them, don't be the team that they crushed that number against.
00:41:51
Speaker
um And then defensively the Rams can be had in the rushing game, you know, they're 28th in rushing defense. They're averaging 144.2 yards a game. Hello James Cook. Hello Ray Davis. So I mean, I think the script is very similar to the one it was against the Niners.
00:42:08
Speaker
let Jimmy cook, let Ray Davis run and Josh, throw on the cape when you need to. But yeah, Tom, you said the big ones, Pukin, Akua offensively, you got to stop him, Cooper cup. And then I, I, Kyron Williams. Yeah. But I mean, I don't know that rushing offense just doesn't scare me.
00:42:25
Speaker
Agreed. I think it's, um, a it used to be more potent. I think, um, Sean McVeigh is a brilliant offensive mind. And when he can, you know, scheme up the right game plan, he could be dangerous, but they're just have not been able to put it together. So I think the bills just need to go in and stay, get healthy out of this game. Um, I think it's really important to to remark that with no new injuries out of the Niners game,
00:42:47
Speaker
um I think that's huge and let's continue that trends, right? Continue to to get more and more healthy so we can push in and have, I think the Detroit game is going to be the last big, big game on our schedule and then kind of figure things out for the playoffs. Yeah, exactly.
Transition to Buffalo Sabres Discussion
00:43:03
Speaker
Always say anything else on the Sabres real quick? Or Scott, Jesus Christ, anything else on the bills real quick?
00:43:09
Speaker
No, no. freud Freudian slip because they're both so good, right? Yeah, that's it, dude. Every time I'm talking about really good and positive and productive and consistent things, I think about the Savers. Well, i well with that segue, what happened in Savers Land?
00:43:26
Speaker
Well, now to quote Rob Schneider in Waterboy, oh, no, we suck again. Yeah, we're terrible. um We dropped three straight. um and The last three games that we talked about that we were going to play, we had a game against Minnesota, a game against Vancouver, a game against the Islanders. And we lost all three of them. I guess you can try to take you know a little bit of positivity in that the game against Vancouver was an overtime loss, yeah but And maybe I'm being a little bit too critical because here's the God honest truth.
00:43:58
Speaker
That game against Minnesota, and Tom, I think I was texting you about that during the game. They looked unreal. The Sabres played, yeah truthfully, so, so well against Minnesota. It was a complete team game. They had great offensive chances. I thought they played well um defensively. Shows from the scoreboard, right? i mean we lost So we lost that game 1-0. And folks, if you didn't get a chance to watch the game,
00:44:25
Speaker
You got to know that the boys were buzzing. We just got stonewalled by a goalie that was on that day. And Gustafson just absolutely, I mean, he stood on his head. He made some unreal saves. The chances were there. They were great chances. They were chances, you know, very low in the slot. um And Gustafson just, I mean, kind of similar to what I was talking about, UPL, that really great game that he had.
00:44:46
Speaker
Um, they were great chances that he made look like easy saves because he was just, he was just reading what we were doing so well, constantly in the right position. So, you know, I honestly, even though we lost that game and it sucks to get shut out and I feel like losing one, nothing is somehow even worse. Like yeah you couldn't even get one to force overtime to get one point. Like that sucks. But it was a game that I was honestly able to walk away from and be like, yeah, this law sucks, but carry that into the next couple of games and you're going to walk away with some dubs.
00:45:16
Speaker
Let's take it to Vancouver. Now, I'm going to level with everybody right up front. This game happened in black or on Black Friday, and I work in retail. So I watched what I could. I had the iPad right next to me. But you know I couldn't watch this game as closely as I wanted to. The things that I could take away there were this, once again, this team clawed their way back, um came back from a 2-0, excuse me, down by two goals, came back from a big deficit there, forced overtime, and then just I mean, the overtime goal that was scored was just like, what are you doing? Where is everybody? What do you look at? that okay Like, I don't understand. I know it's so i know it's overtime is 3v3, but like, how do you let somebody just get so wide open? You know, unless, and I think the thing with 3v3 overtime is usually the transition is where people get caught.
00:46:03
Speaker
But I mean, Vancouver had possessed the puck for a minute in our in our offense or our defensive zone, and we just lost track of somebody. and And that's how that game ended. It was heartbreaking. We were down 3-1. We scored two great goals in the third period, late in the third period to tie the game, went into overtime with all the momentum, and somehow lost.
00:46:23
Speaker
so You know, so that go ahead, Jake. Yeah. I was just going to say, yeah, it's it's good. They they pushed it to OT. I'm happy about that. You get the point. But it seems a bit more hollow given the the great effort against Minnesota, like you said, but getting stonewalled by a really great young goalie, Gustafson. And then but we'll get to the Islanders game more in a second and then getting blank three nothing by the fucking Islanders. It just makes it makes that OT loss staying a little bit more if they if they won.
00:46:51
Speaker
You know, if they, if they got another point against Minnesota and beat the Islanders, I don't think we're complaining about the Vancouver game at all, but it just kind of, it's, it's a microcosm of other issues that cropped up in the other games. Yeah. And Jake, sorry, I kind of sped through here. Did you, was there anything you wanted to touch on with the Minnesota game? I apologize. I disregarded.
00:47:09
Speaker
and just no No, no, no, you're you're fine. I mean, i'll i'll I'll say again, I think Philip Gustafson is a really excellent young goalie. He's such a good, ah you know, compatriot for Flurry as he kind of ages out of the league. um And yeah, I agree. i caught I caught most of that game. I think the the the sabers look good they they had a lot of opportunities they were getting a lot of shots on gust of sin he just he straight up beat up and sometimes that happens um stings that that they weren't able to get a ah goal a goal out of him but it is what it is they played well and it it unfortunately i think maybe hurt their confidence so or they ate too much on thanksgiving but they looked a little bit more flat against vancouver and then
00:47:53
Speaker
I think we should probably get into the Islanders game. my ah god I wasn't able to watch it, but I caught some highlights and they just they that there it didn't there wasn't a lot of highlights of Sabers offensive
Sabres' Performance & Trade Rumors
00:48:05
Speaker
chances. I'll put it that way. um Just looked flat. i For some reason, I just hate the Islanders so much. I fucking hate the Islanders so goddamn much.
00:48:14
Speaker
ah Their personnel can change their coach can change but they're still the same boring fucking team. I hate watching them I hate competing against them they scrape their way to the playoffs by loser points because they're a loser team with loser fans and then they get fucking swept by the penguins the canes the Rangers the Devils I don't care who they're gonna get swept if they make the playoffs and I hate them That's my tirade to take it away nige what else no dude I appreciate that dude because I also I can't even it's it's their play style. It's the fact that they choose to just be so defensively sound it's death by a trillion paper cuts playing against the Islanders is what it feels like and
00:48:58
Speaker
Yeah. Fuck. We seem to lose to them all the goddamn time too. Yeah. And it stinks because they're, they're, they're in the thick of the playoff on it. When it comes down to the wire in April, they're going to be a team that you're battling for. And so you're giving up points. Exactly. Yeah. And that's, you just took the words out of my mouth, dude. You know, the Islanders are going to be right there.
00:49:17
Speaker
Like, you know, when there's 10 games left in the season, the Islanders are going to be right there, one to two points out of a wild card spot, because that's just where they live. That's where they always are, it seems like. And yeah, God, no, it was it was a flat game. um i You know, I don't even rhyme or played that game. I don't even feel like I can put a lot on Reimer's plate there. I didn't think the goals that he let in were.
00:49:41
Speaker
Agrigiously bad. I thought it was poor play in front of him and then god dude like yeah, just offensively Completely absent and and that kind of leads me to my next thing Jake um and I want to get your take on it I mean, and I'm seeing it and I'm seeing it a lot on social media. I'm seeing it on a couple podcasts Jeff Merrick is going it seems to be whatever his scandal was that got him off the show with Elliott Friedman and I have no idea what all that was. um But whatever got him booted off that show, he has gone on a podcast spree. And I feel like every podcast he's on recently, he is mentioning something about the savers being in trade talks. So the conversations are out there. But um I have to kind of feel like with us getting shut out in two of the last three games and not replacing the Jeff Skinner money in terms of the salary cap.
00:50:33
Speaker
The noise for a trade is going to start to get louder than even it has been. um And um I think we're seeing that already. Jake, do you have thoughts on that? it It should be. I mean, i we talked about it in the offseason that they deserve some flack for not spending some of those dollars. It doesn't have to be a player that has $10 million dollar hit for the next seven years, because I know that they are worried about ah some extensions coming up. But at the same time, there are there are options out there that you can make work. The cap is going to rise exponentially over the next couple of years. So it it is a failure, in my opinion, still, to not go out and get a scoring talent for your forward group. um So yeah, they absolutely should be in trade talks. I know they were they were one of the few teams that was involved in the David Earechek trade from Columbus to Minnesota recently. So I'm sure that's where some of that noise was coming from. but they really should be out there trying to add to the team. With that said, I think i think they've they've they've put themselves in a tough spot. Big trades for you know household name players, scoring players, big
00:51:50
Speaker
you know players that can push you over the line to get to the playoffs that doesn't really happen mid season around the trade deadline sure you can see one or two but in December it it just doesn't happen so the time to do that has passed it was at the draft it was in June it was in July August not in December so i Jeff Merritt can talk about it all he wants. But until until something happens, it's it's kind of meaningless. And you know other teams are going to pick up the phone and and listen to Kevin Adams. But as far as pulling the trigger,
00:52:22
Speaker
I don't, I don't see it happening. I don't know who's out there trying to trade a player that would really slot into the top six at this point in the season. it's And that's just it, man. Like, and we, and we've seen, you know, like that you're the blues won the cup. They were last in the division or excuse me, last in the league at Christmas and then had an unreal remainder of the season to go on to win the Stanley cup. So yeah, dude, like anybody that's got ah like like, even if you're in the very bottom,
00:52:50
Speaker
of the standings right now, like you're not looking to train anybody because you're like, you can just, even just that, you can point at that and go still could be our year. you know or Nobody's, nobody's letting go a star player that could help them get to that point at this point in the year. Yeah. You're right. I, brother, I agree with everything you just said. and Sorry, sorry, sorry to cut you off. I'm excited. like The teams at the bottom, are you going to trade with Chicago? Chicago doesn't have a player that would that would really add to your team. Sure, that they have Bedard, but you're not fucking trading for Connor Bedard. You look at Nashville. Nashville is a team that has a ton of older guys that are more established, but which of those massive contracts are you taking on? You're probably not. If if you are trading for another player that has
00:53:36
Speaker
ah a more friendly contract and is a player of that caliber, that they don't want to trade them. they're They're trying to battle their way out. They're trying to be St. Louis from five, six years ago. So there's like there's there's not really any teams for you to make a meaningful deal with at this point in the year.
00:53:53
Speaker
I'll say this, if Nashville wants to come up with a deal for Tommy Novak, I'm in like Flynn, dude, but yeah, that's not going to happen. Agreed. Yeah. it So, you know, it's, it's, it's, this is the thing with trades, right? Like it that you can't just, and this is why, like when fans are like, why is it the general manager trading? It's not exclusively up to the general manager. a trade takes tango two it It takes two to tango. Thank you, Tom. Yeah. You need to have another willing party.
00:54:22
Speaker
to make a trade with. And you know ah did to add on to that, don't forget, the Sabres still suck. Every good player has a no trade clause, and I'd be willing to bet you any amount of money that 90 to 95% of those players with no trade clauses or limited trade clauses, the Sabres are on their no trade team. Nobody wants to fucking come play for the Sabres because they're not the Bills yet. There is not an amazing culture that's leading to wins.
00:54:52
Speaker
which Which could have stopped some deals over the summer. We don't we don't know. Absolutely could have. And it sucks because it's just like, how do you how do you turn that around, right? You just need something to stick and start pushing the other direction and make it a desirable place to play in a place that players want to come and they can be their best their best selves, right? Like that's what you want, but you have to turn the ship around
Sabres' Upcoming Challenges
00:55:15
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somehow. It's just a slow, and it's slow.
00:55:17
Speaker
I think that's a lot of small little actions that eventually lead to a turnaround. And holy shit, it's hard. Yeah. Well, that agrees. The next ah next couple of games for the Sabres here. I mean, fucking not great, dude, at least these next two in particular played tomorrow night at seven p.m. Eastern time against Colorado. I don't know if you guys remember, but Nathan McKinnon and Cal McCar played for Colorado. So that's tough.
00:55:45
Speaker
um Thursday, December 5th against the Winnipeg Jets. If my watch is right, Winnipeg broke the NHL record for the amount of games that they won to begin the year. So they're pretty fucking good. Was that not to mention? No, no, no, no, you're correct. Not to mention they have not to mention they have Connor Hellabuck, who's one of the best goalies in the league playing against a team that's had trouble scoring. So that should that should be fun. But but, you know, the NHL so silly sometimes watch them put up seven against Hellabuck, you know.
00:56:13
Speaker
Yeah. and And that is what this neighborbers team does, dude. Like that is, Oh God, Jake, this next team, uh, new to the NHL this year, um, the Utah hockey club 10, 10, and four. So I would even say, I mean, they're right there.
00:56:29
Speaker
if If nothing else, they are as bad as the Sabres because they're 500. But I think they're honestly ahead in the standings because they have more overtime losses, which is at least still getting them a point. So if nothing else, this Utah team um is right about the same place as the Sabres. Jake, da have you watched any Utah games? I don't toss this unit to put a pressure on. I don't know anything about Utah right now, to be totally honest. I'm wondering if you do.
00:56:57
Speaker
i haven't No, I haven't watched a lot of their games. I'm excited to watch them play Buffalo, but they they're they're not the Arizona Coyotes of of old. ah They're a much more complete team, I think. And yeah going back to trade talks, any any players that Buffalo's in, I think they're going to be in on too. They're a new owner. They're looking to make a splash and looking to make the playoffs in their new building.
00:57:17
Speaker
for sure. And then um I guess you can make an argument that things get easier, although we play in the Detroit Red Wings, um which is a team. Again, we've said it a lot recently. We've played Detroit a bunch so far this year. It's a team that's in the same bucket as Buffalo, right? Like, when are they going to make the move and get out of the the bottom of the basement? Well, I guess we'll find out Monday, 12, 9, 7 PM Eastern time as well against the Red Wings. So that's our next chunk of games here.
00:57:45
Speaker
um All at home. I want to point that out all. Oh, yeah. They've been playing better at home this year, but not historically have been a good home team. So in these next four games, I think you need you need five points for me to be satisfied, not even happy. I was I was going to say, just given the fact that the first two games are against the abs and the jets, I feel like if we came away with four, I would I would be honestly pretty fucking stoked.
00:58:12
Speaker
Fair enough. if If it's four, two of them better be against the Red Wings and it better be in regulation. ah yep I'll put that qualify on it. Yeah, dude, if we i mean if we have four overtime losses, I'm not going to be happy.
Conclusion & Social Media Reminder
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Yeah. Well, now that I've ruined my mood and talked about the hockey team that I love more than anything in the world, Tom, do you want to get us out of here? Yeah. yeah yeah All right. Hey, love you, boys. Have a good one.
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