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Ep. 77 - The Bills lose to the Kansas City Chiefs in the AFC Championship
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Join us, Bills Mafia, for an our therapy session. Thanks for hanging with us this season, there's more to come!
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Introduction and Social Media
00:00:21
Speaker
Oh, what's going on, everybody? You're listening to the Let's Go Buffalo podcast, your favorite podcast for all things bills and sabers with the pals, Nigel, Tom and Jake. Episode 77 coming at you. You know the drill, folks, the social medias. You can find us on all of your all of them, excuse me, ah with the handle at Let's Go Buff Pod, Instagram, YouTube, TikTok. If you're checking things out on YouTube, please leave a like, drop a comment, even if it's not live, really helps us out, just kind of gets us out there with that algorithm.
Host Introductions and Banter
00:00:58
Speaker
And with that, let's get around here and say hello to the fellas, Tom. How we doing, buddy?
00:01:06
Speaker
I'm just here so I don't get fined. Yeah. Yeah. it's right That's right. I think, I think that's a pretty, uh, pretty all encompassing vibe you have there. Uh, I got some scar tissue to air out and then start to slowly, put some gauze on and heal up and some, uh, all that good stuff as we go through this week. But I think tonight will be a good step in that direction. Yeah, for sure. Jake, how's it going, buddy?
00:01:33
Speaker
It's not bad, but you know how I am. Let's, let's get to the crack in a beer party. How are you? I am good. Thank you. Yeah. Yeah. I'm, I'm definitely, I'm definitely sad. I'm definitely sad, but yeah, let's, uh, let's have a beer fellow, shall we?
Celebrating Second Season
00:01:50
Speaker
Hey, before we, before we crack, before it got us down here, I will say this, it was as, as always, this is our second season doing this now for the bills. ah It is a pleasure to do it with you gentlemen. I love you guys. an honor Cheers to another great season. Yeah. I'll go first. then I got something new.
Craft Beer Highlights
00:02:12
Speaker
Yeah, here we go. So this is um the the hop executioner IPA from Terrapin Brewing Company in Athens, Georgia, kind of a kind of a neat game with like a turtle fishing. oh Yeah, hop executioner. So we'll see how that goes. There's like, I think I kind of there's like eight different hops in this beer. Well, it's Yeah, it's quite the smorgasbord.
00:02:36
Speaker
They were just cleaning up the closet. It was kind of seems like, yeah, like it's kind of like like like what's like the one of the the last dinners before you have to be before you go grocery ummbler whatever or whatever. It's like, yeah, whatever I've got, make some kind of casserole. This will do. I always call that shit in a bowl. There you go. Yeah, exactly. Really, really appetizing. If anyone wants to come over for dinner. That sounds good, though. they exactly Yeah, I promise. I promise.
Cider and Life Updates
00:03:03
Speaker
I'm Jake and I go.
00:03:05
Speaker
Um, another harpoon back to my, my roots here. I've a, I think it's a little poetic that I was out of Buffalo beers for last podcast. Um, and maybe I should have bought a fifth. Um, the, uh, it's harpoon. It's actually a collaboration with LL beans. So, uh, go get your, uh, your mock boots and, uh, it's called harvest locker. It's really good. That sounds awesome. I didn't know that collapsed with that little bean. Yeah. Kind of cool.
00:03:31
Speaker
So last week I did not drink a beer even though and I said blame me if if lost in a Superstitious way so I will take all and full blame but this week I'm drinking I'm switching it up. I have a cider tonight from nine pin a local Cider from i better be comfortable It is. It's called shit in a bull cider. Nah, it's, uh, but yeah, the apples are grown in a town right next door to mine. So it's a nice little, nice little, yeah. You don't take, I am going to add your name to the list. I got a whole long laundry list here of people I have some issues with and you're, you're now one of them. So yes, if it wasn't at the top of your list already, then your list was wrong. It's not the top. No, it's not the top. Don't worry. You're, you're safe from the top.
00:04:19
Speaker
um ah Jake, are you fully all moved in to your new place? I don't think I've officially asked you that. From the very dark background behind me. Fully moved in, completely settled how I want to be. No, and that probably won't happen for many months. Okay, cool. work i wasn't I wasn't sure where you were in that process. Cool, dude. Yeah.
Season Reflections
00:04:43
Speaker
Well, fellas, should we should we start by just like maybe um like ah like a prevailing thought on whether it be specifically the game or the season or just kind of like anything you need, you feel you need to very quickly, urgently get off your chest here? I want to say something quick. Just just ah on a positive note, this is the second season we've done this and we've gone to the playoffs both years. We've done it. It's been fun covering it. The team is fun.
00:05:11
Speaker
We have Josh Allen as our quarterback, just I don't know, like doesn't all have to be negative. That that is something I'm thankful for. And we will get into more negative things, but I'm really grateful for that. Yeah, for sure.
00:05:24
Speaker
Yeah, this is the time, right? These are the games that we, I'll stick with the positive things. These are the games that we as fans want to be part of, right? This is, if you told us 10 years ago that we would be, you know, a divisional, well we we play in the playoffs every single year and we'd be playing to the wildcard and the divisional round and the AFC championship, like with a great team, we'd be all about it. We signed it up for a 10 times out of 10.
00:05:46
Speaker
It just, it does, but then it comes, you know, the larger they are, the bigger they fall kind of thing, right? Like it just feels worse when there's possibilities and the other doors start to open. So I agree. I agree, man. No, absolutely. Like you guys already said, this has always been super fun and what a cool way to kind of express our fandom, you know, to do it together, which is really freaking awesome. So yeah, go Bills, I guess. Yeah. I mean, like it definitely,
00:06:17
Speaker
It definitely sucks, right? it sucks for It sucks for a ton of different reasons that that is that is familiar to to all of us as as Bills fans. um I have one like sort of different pivot um like sadness kind of feeling this year, though. I feel a lot more sadness for, like, everybody else and when I say everybody else I mean like yeah I'm sad for me like as a lifelong fan of both Buffalo sports franchises like I feel like I paid my dues and I and I'm i'm ready for ready for a goddamn championship but that being said
00:06:58
Speaker
ah Like I'm sad for like I'm sad for you guys my friends I'm sad for all of bills mafia like I'm sad for all of us that put so much time and energy and and Care into this to to once again feel like this when it feels so much like it should just be our turn Like I mean there's stats flying around right now, and I don't remember specifically what they are That's not what this podcast is if you want data go someplace else but the the numbers were that like Josh Allen's numbers are like touchdown numbers or whatever are the highest for any quarterback that hasn't played in a Super Bowl of all time you know and it's just like it's just like damn dude like
00:07:42
Speaker
That really makes it feel like it should be our goddamn turn. And it just sucks that, you know, the Kansas City Chiefs are doing what they're doing, you know, at the same time. And I'm i'm just I'm sad for everybody that puts in so much time and care du because it just so much.
00:08:01
Speaker
feels like it should be our turn. And we're all going to be right there in the same spot next year. But, man, dude, I just feel so much sadness for everybody else this time around. We just we just deserve it, man. Like, it's our fucking turn. Apparently, it's not. Apparently, that's my fucking problem with it, bro. I sorry to let you finish your thought. And then I kind of pick up where you left off. Yeah. And it's just it just it it's not. You're right. But it feels like it should be.
00:08:29
Speaker
And it just it hurts, man. it big You know, it's it's because it's the same team. It's the same dragon that we just can't fucking slay, dude. You know, it's fun to dunk on Dolphins fans and it's fun to dunk on Ravens fans. But like at the end of the day, none of it matters until. Well, I'm not going to say that because it does matter. It's fun to dunk on those guys. We had fun this season, dunking on Dolphins fans and Ravens fans.
00:08:57
Speaker
But, uh, fuck dude, like now we got to take our medicine. And I guess that's where I'll end for right now. Yeah.
Team Performance Analysis
00:09:06
Speaker
I think you touched on a good point is that like, there's just so much care and thought and heart that goes into being a fan of this team. And I think Sean McDermott was been talking when he's been defending Buffalo these last few weeks with those slanders comments that come out, you know, like this team lives in breeze football. It's this, excuse me, this city lives in breeze football for this team.
00:09:26
Speaker
right it's it's just It's so different. Being a Bills fan is a like a characteristic. It's a personality trait. it's You wear it on your sleeves. You wear you know you wear your all your merch out in public all the time, no matter where you are, you no matter where you live. And just go Bills and anywhere. you know If you catch another Bills fan, absolutely, every single time. And it's just and the players and the the front office, like every all of them are stand-up dudes that you want to root for.
00:09:54
Speaker
right? These are guys that you can get behind because they stand up for something that is, that is just really good. And it sucks. And it sucks, right? It just hurts. It just hurts. So yeah. Um, did you guys have any other kind of other opening thoughts? Or I kind of wanted to start to see a new directions into more specifics here. Steer us. Yeah, drive the bus, baby.
00:10:18
Speaker
So um there's a couple different things that also really hurt. And I think, Nigel, you put it on it, is that it's the same damn team in the same same situation. right It's the worst form of Groundhog's Day that we could ever come up with. It's not like, hey, we make it to the playoffs. And this year, you know it was there was the we was the Chiefs. It was the Bengals. This year, ah you know we lost to the Ravens.
00:10:43
Speaker
Or, oh my God, this our super hot Chargers team came in and just went straight to the Super Bowl and they got to win. No, it's it's the same fucking team who's beating us and sending us home and then trots on off to the student Super Bowl and they're playing for their fourth Super Bowl in six years. like it that's ah That's what's making it feel worse for me. And it's the specific team and it's the specific monkey that's on our on our back and this team is back that for some reason we can't shrug and I don't get it.
00:11:13
Speaker
Yeah, dude. And it's, I mean, okay. I guess I'll throw a question back at you, Tom. And it's one that I'm not really sure. But what, what happened this time around? What was it to you that that caused us to lose this game? I think I know where I land on this, but yeah. Um,
00:11:37
Speaker
There's a couple different things, um and maybe we can drill down into that and get there tonight. um For me, it's a consistency and ah a but of ability to consistently execute in every situation, right? That's what we see this Kansas City Chiefs team doing.
00:11:55
Speaker
We see Andy Reid, Spagnolo, right? All those players, they're able to, sure, everybody was saying this is the year they could be had. They were winning by one score games all the time in weird situations. And man, this is the time. But guess what? They turn it on when they need to. And they do what's needed at the right times. And I think that the Bills had too many situations in that game where they didn't execute exactly how it needed to be. And something fell through.
00:12:24
Speaker
I think then we also didn't execute enough to then make it and be able to get over some of these other weird situations that I want to get into going coming up later on that we in theory like shouldn't be able to dictate a game but did because we didn't execute in other places um and left the door open for some weird situations and other ah other parts of the game to influence the outcome of a game. um And so it was not being able to really affect um ah Patrick Mahomes, right? Yeah, sure. We got up the middle and Oliver got there. ger Can we talk about Jordan Phillips just absolutely owning a large human being for one run rep? Like, where did that come from? Like, that was really fun to watch. i um
00:13:06
Speaker
I mean, ah yeah, dude, i I thought that gave us a chance to go and win the game. Yes. That was one of the biggest plays of the game, right? It back them up towards the 20 and made them kick the field goal. And then we, you know, they're only up three and we had three and a half minutes. It was um the not not Duncan Cade.
00:13:24
Speaker
not catching a ball two or three different times. It was Josh, missing Curtis Samuel on that low scoop that could have been a ah runaway go, right? It was Greg Russo, buddy, where are you? Right? He got caught. And then Mahomes got out on his side probably three, four or five times and for 10 yard rushes, it was a tire.
00:13:46
Speaker
um What planet was he on? did he like Is he playing football? I don't think so. I don't think he's playing the right sport. right It was a whole slew of these and that's just a the beginning of this laundry list of different execution errors that led to it a spot where other things could influence this game and wasn't we weren't able to put them away. that That's where I'm sitting right now and I'm sure there's more. Where are you guys at?
00:14:11
Speaker
Jake, do you want to do you want to touch? Yeah, you're shaking your head. but a rule I mean, no, no, I'm shaking my head because I think Tom made some really, really great points there. Like I guess for me, if if we're going back to the question of where was the game lost? It's tough to say, like, I don't know. I think there was a lot of good things that came from this game. ah they They were perfect in red zone efficiency. I think about three for three. yeah I thought they made good decisions. I came down to some like Tom alluded to some some plays and decisions that shouldn't impact the game but maybe did. um i don't I don't know. yeah I really don't know where like where things went wrong. I agree. like One of the things that comes to mind is I don't feel like they got to and affected Patrick Mahomes enough. um it seemed like he could It seemed like they were able to kind of generate chances at will a bit.
00:15:02
Speaker
um You know, it's a tall task to to to shut him down, but but I did think that was an area where I noticed not a lot of trash. And it didn't help that we didn't have an answer for their answer to us, right? We didn't affect Patrick by Holmes because he was getting the ball out like so quickly, right? He was getting the ball out. And then the couple of times where he did hang on to it, we were trying to play for something different, right? It was the Andy Reid and Patrick by Holmes were ready for what the Bills were going to deal them.
00:15:31
Speaker
And it made it more difficult, at least in my mind, of that's why he was able to get on those scrambles because we were trying to cage rush him and something got changed. You know, something ah Greg Russo got caught, pull got pulled in and and caught up field. Then boom, he's gone or he's getting the ball out and you can't get to him. what You can't expect a D lineman to get there in less than two and a half seconds. You just can't. Right. Like if he's
Critical Game Moments
00:15:52
Speaker
getting the ball out that quick, there's nothing you can do. So I don't know. Yeah. Nice. So what what's your prevailing thought on on where we lost this game? I think this is you have you skewed this up for a reason.
00:16:01
Speaker
Well, not really so much a reason, just kind of wanting to get everybody's take, I guess. but And this bums me out because i it's it bums me out because it's a privy it's a but it's something that sticks out in my mind very intensely. And it's I'm not going to sit here and say it's the reason that we lost the game. But at 3 minutes and 33 seconds, I texted you guys something in the group chat. And that something was, Josh Allen has a chance to go and be great right now. Right, dude? and like I just, uh, dude, like I'm just going to say it. Like I needed Josh Allen in that office to come through on that drive. Like I just, I just flat out.
00:16:46
Speaker
I needed that to happen for so many reasons, dude. I needed that to happen for Josh Allen's own defense as a player in this league. Not that his numbers don't speak for themselves, but I mean, God, dude, you go and you lead a touchdown drive right there. I mean, it just does everything to, to, to silence the critics into and to, you know, secure yourself as Oh, man, it like it just feels like the the chance was right there, you know, for us to go in and punch this dragon in the fucking mouth. And we just. Yeah, sure.
00:17:27
Speaker
I didn't put it in the group chat, but I said to myself, I'm sitting at home watching a few times when that play or when that drive is about to start, the door is open. Please walk through it. I know you had every opportunity. That was exactly what we needed, right? We needed the defense to finally figure it out. They forced two, three or two punts in the um e comment a coming out of the half, held them to just three on that final, on that final drive that the um this final scoring drive that the Chiefs had. which was huge. That's what they needed. Right. That's what we wish that, to be honest with you, that's what the bills that the door that the bills had left over and for the chief so many different times. Right. Oh, man, we couldn't get seven. So we just put up. We just kicked the field goal. Now we give them all back to Patrick Holmes. And boom, that's that's it right there. You finally had a chance to give them a taste of their own fucking medicine for a change. And you fucking fumbled the bag, dude. That kills me, dude.
00:18:21
Speaker
Like we're like. And I think it was I think it was Josh's execution. I think it was play calling. Right. There's a couple of different weird play calls. I think it was situationally. I hated the first down call on that drive. I hated it so much, dude. The toss to Ty Johnson on the outside. Are you kidding me? You need to put the ball in 17's hands. Every play, whether he's scrambling or throwing the ball. No quarterback design plays there.
00:18:51
Speaker
You're dealing, you're letting him deal the ball or he's scrambling and you hand, you do a toss to tie Johnson on first and 10 that goes for a one or two yard loss or something like that. Oh, I wanted to throw up, bro. Yeah. Yeah.
00:19:10
Speaker
Let's talk about that final the final toss that fourth and five play um because I know that's really that's the hot hot ah one of the one of many hot money plays hot button plays. Excuse me. um I think I think it was when you're setting when you're lined up fourth and five.
00:19:27
Speaker
Chief defense defense was not showing the blitz that they sense, right, they were showing something different than they sent it from the other side, which is just iconic and that's that's a key thing for key part of Spagnola's defense like you kind of know that that's something is coming right you could see that from there. I think it's.
00:19:43
Speaker
I think the requesting and hoping that Josh could have figured that out of what to do in a loud Arrowhead Stadium, fourth and five, not seeing it coming. I don't necessarily know if he could have truly done anything at the before the snap to actually get the protections right. I don't know. Maybe maybe they can. i'm not I'm not a player. So maybe maybe I'm wrong. But i don't I think that's asking too much.
00:20:06
Speaker
um It's really hard to see that. I mean, so Josh clearly saw that Dalton was open, right? He he saw him come across the field, somehow got it up to him. And it sucks that he hit Dalton Kincaid in the hands. It just sucks that he hit him right in the hands and Dalton needs to come down with that.
00:20:26
Speaker
Um, it also sucks that clearly Shakir on a little orbit motion route out to the left was definitely open and available at the time that the, there's some screenshots of, um, of, uh, of that play. And at the time when the, the, the the blitz was coming.
00:20:41
Speaker
Um, Shakira is still like just barely passed Josh's left. So I don't know if he could have actually seen that as an option, but that should have been known that like, Hey, that's how you beat the blitz, right? You, everybody knows you learned this in high school football. You, you replace the ball, the blitz with the ball, right? You get, you, you get the the ball out of like wherever they're blitzing from, put it there and then boom, get it out and open. Um, and that was, that was the answer that that could have been the answer. I don't know why it wasn't, um, I don't know. It was a, it was a comedy of errors and within that whole play.
00:21:13
Speaker
Yeah, dude, and and I'm sorry, dude, like I I think that's a really tough catch to asking Gabe to make. I do. Totally. He should have got it. It did hit him in his hands. It did have very ominous to step on Diggs drop vibes last season. Yeah. Yeah. Right. no Totally honest. Freakin poetic.
00:21:40
Speaker
Yeah, i but I'm sorry. My blame goes to Josh Allen on this one, because A, I do think it's on him to recognize where that blitz is coming from. and and But even i actually, that should be B. Let's say you have no idea where the blitz is coming from. Let's say you get it completely wrong. right You think it's two guys coming from over here and it's two guys coming from over here. Doesn't matter. Josh has as a quarterback, he's supposed to know every route that every player is running, right? And then at some point it becomes backyard football, right? When Josh extends plays the ways that he can and does, at some point guys just run to open space like we all did when we were eight.
00:22:21
Speaker
Right. But that being said, and I just kind of lost my train of thought here. Hold on a second. He's got to know the different place. He's got to know that he's got to know. better know it So when that heat is coming, dude, he's got to fucking know where his help is.
00:22:37
Speaker
right he's He's got to know that, okay, my my escape here is Khalil Shakir on the orbit motion, right on that orbit route. So like even if he like even if he doesn't quite like see him right away, he knows he's over there. He's got to get that ball over there, dude. He just has to. like I don't know what he's trying to do there with those guys coming.
00:23:02
Speaker
like that couldn't be That couldn't have been like his plan as soon as he saw those guys. Okay, I'm gonna i'm gonna buy enough time until Dalton Kincaid can find some green grass and then I'm gonna huck it. As opposed to, okay, the heat's coming. I know Cleo's right over here on the orbit. like that I put that one on Josh almost exclusively.
00:23:24
Speaker
I'm sorry, Dalton, yeah, should've caught the ball. And then we're and then it's a totally different conversation, but I bet you were still bringing up the fact that Khalil Shakir was wide open. yeah because there was no Go ahead, Jake. It wasn't fourth and 15, it was fourth and five, maybe five yards. Find the easy button, Khalil, that you know can get you some good yards after he catches it, probably two. Exactly. And you've said that a bunch of times in different in different places, haven't we?
00:23:51
Speaker
And, and aside from his yards after catch ability, there was nobody within 10 yards of him. Yeah. Yeah. The, the other, the other thing that this kind of reminded me of is third down efficiency too. They were put in a lot of situations where they had to go for it on fourth down. They they attempted six fourth down plays. They were, they went four for six. Don't want to get into that. The play before that third down, they went, oh yeah ah but well, yeah but we'll get into that in a moment. I should have said, um, third, third downs, they went five for 14 on them. It's just not good enough.
00:24:22
Speaker
Right. and And it felt like this was one of the issues that i've I felt with this team going into the postseason is that, man, okay, yeah, we can play this efficient ball. We can dink and dunk. We can get a, we have a great run game, right? The great run game was awesome. We should talk about that in a couple of minutes. Um, but there's no solution to break this, this ball down fields, right? The downfield threat was not existent on this team. ah In my mind, it should have been like a guy like Dalton, it should have been,
00:24:51
Speaker
Keon or Amar. I don't know. I don't know. There's no real true downfield threats. So we couldn't get... I felt like every drive that we had that that we that we played um last night, it it was just, you just struggled and fought and just mashed your way through to get to these third and shorts and fourth and shorts. And you're right, Jake, the efficiency wasn't there. So why can't we just get a first down and second down? Right?
00:25:16
Speaker
That's what we saw the Chiefs do all night. They were getting theyre ripping off 7, 8, 9, 10 yard plays. And boom, they didn't get into many third down situations. Didn't get into many fourth down situations. And ta he had to. 10 combined. 10 combined. 10 combined third and fourth down situations. yeah Yeah. Thanks for the numbers. you're good Thank you. um It makes me feel worse. um but And ah you know like it just felt like we struggled all the way down and we didn't have an answer for that. um And I think that was a That was a theme throughout the year.
00:25:50
Speaker
Fuck this blows, dude. I know I'm so tired of having the same fucking conversation, man. I know. What is it going to take? Oh, well, we're wallowing. Can I bring something up? Hmm. Does it hurt more that x Xavier Worthy slashed us for 100 plus yards last night?
00:26:11
Speaker
No, I got to be honest. I don't give a shit about that whole thing. but That only hurts any any bit at all because the bills traded with the chiefs and he's in that was the player they took. I you could both of those wide receivers are 21 years old, dude.
00:26:28
Speaker
We could be in a situation that, sure, maybe Xavier Worthy is better early on, but then Keyon develops into a really great big body wide receiver and buries him the rest of his career. Or maybe Xavier is better the whole time and it sucks forever. Who knows, man? But it I mean, it stings like it's not cool. It's one more thing that chiefs have to dunk on us with. And it does get under my skin. I'm not going to lie. I can't go on any social media right now. But I mean,
00:26:59
Speaker
Fuck, dude. Like, who cares? The. The fact of the matter is you won by three points. Like if if if the bills win in that game, are you still trying to brag about how much better x Xavier Worthy was? Like all the fucking matters is the win. And your chief's got the win and that's an extra sprinkle they can throw at us that hurts. But it's all it is. Yeah.
00:27:25
Speaker
I agree. I think it does show me that, man, I read need production from the top picks of the drafts of the last couple of years. We needed Keyon. Where was Dalton Kincaid? Where was Greg Russo? Where was Kyra Elam? Where is Kyra Elam, right? Like those, those top picks in the last couple of years, Groot had an awesome year. I feel bad for dunking on Groot. I do. I love the guy. He's a great player. He did not have his best game last night.
00:27:52
Speaker
um He on is just developing, right? It was like, man, I don't know if we could expect him of this year. So he has a slight bit of a pass. Kire Elam, I want him to go play rugby. I want him to go play wiffle ball. I don't care what the fuck he plays, but don't play in Buffalo anymore. um And Dalton, he's got to figure it out. This was supposed to be his year. He was the guy. He was the guy who was supposed to be the funnel of this offense.
00:28:15
Speaker
No, he wasn't gonna get 160 targets like Stefan Diggs did, but he was supposed to get 100 and he just didn't have it. He and Josh just for whatever reason, just it never got on truly the same page. They were in the same book, right? They were in the same chapter, but no, they'd never hit the same page and they'd never gotten destroyed and that was what's supposed to be it. And I think so though their impact or lack of was felt tonight or last night, excuse me.
00:28:42
Speaker
I, the so I think you bring up a really interesting conversation, Tom, and that conversation is Brandon Bean's early round picks, right? Because yeah, we just mentioned four that, and you're right about group, great season, but like, come on, brother.
00:28:58
Speaker
like you gotta seal that damage edge kind contract here buddy they go go prove why you need to stay in Buffalo for the rest of your career and make all the all the money anyway like but like ah we just went through all those players dude
00:29:15
Speaker
like I'm not ready. I think there's there's obviously still a chance Keon Coleman could be great. We've seen flashes of brilliance. but I think there's a, there's a, ah I mean, fuck you guys. Can you think back to us at 21 for a second? and I mean, Christ almighty. Yeah. Like let's not even. So like, yeah and then I try to imagine us being professional athletes suddenly making millions and millions of dollars. Like.
00:29:45
Speaker
He's got some growing up to do. healthl I remain confident that he will figure it out. I agree with that. yeah um Dalton King Cade. You know, of course, too way too early to, you know, use the B word on him, but definitely a disappointing season. I mean, borrow no questions asked a disappointing season. and He was supposed to have the best hands of that draft no in all pass catchers. Yes. Every pass. He was supposed to have the best hands. That is. Have we seen it? No.
00:30:16
Speaker
yeah I think we've seen moments of it, but not in the big, not, we haven't seen it in the biggest moments, right? He's never had a hundred yard game. Yeah. And then Kaya Reelam dude, I, show you you yo yo yeah which then leads to another interesting question. And this is probably more off season talk, but like, I don't think we're sold Douglas is coming back. No, I don't think he should. I don't think he should either. So Kaya Reelam is your, is your bet there? No, no. He should be off the team.
00:30:45
Speaker
OK, then you're either signing or you're drafting early. Both. But then, you know, don't you also have an early draft needed defensive tackle? Oh, yeah. So. Oh, yeah. No, I'm seeing the problem here. Yeah, you're running out of resources. But the issue is um you're just in a sunk cost fallacy when you're trying to hang on to Kyrie. You're trying to say, hey, we but we put a first in, so we need them. No, you fucking don't just cut losses, cut bait and move on. He's not the answer.
00:31:12
Speaker
Dane Jackson started over him last year, guys. Dane freaking Jackson. That's a good point. Over Kyra Elam. I don't know what to tell you. Stop trying to. He's not a fit for this system. He's not a fit. Something about him, something about um something about the guy and he's just not a he's not a true startable NFL quarterback and he shouldn't be in the conversation.
00:31:35
Speaker
Sure. If he wants to stick around and be quarter quarterback for next year. Awesome. You know what? Fine. Um, but we need, you're right. We need Christian Benford, re-signs, we're still Douglas is going to walk. We need to go get another free agents, kind of like a real soul or soul Douglas, you know, 28, 29 somewhere in there. And then we need to make a draft pick. It's going to be a really interesting off season.
00:31:58
Speaker
It makes me all these talk about, hey, you know, these last couple of draft picks, like we don't know if that they're not really panning out. I think one thing that is in Brandon Bean's favor is that we're picking 28, 29. We're picking 30 this year, right? We're good we're picking 30. Like that's hard to hit. That is not like a top 10 draft pick. That is a much more reliable, hey, home run. it's It's hard. So I'm going to give them that. But you know what, dude?
00:32:23
Speaker
go sell that pic, go get a known quantity. Go get me Miles Garrett, baby. Like, you know, like let's go sell that pic. Don't try and even don't even try and waste it on a draft pick. Like just go sell it to somebody else and go get a known quantity. That's where I'm at right now. Well, and that interesting off season for sure. And I think that just reminds me of so many conversations that we had over this past off season of how, oh boy, look at all the dead cat money we have. this This could be kind of a rebuilding year. I mean, it wasn't just us saying that. um you know I think there's a lot of opportunity for the team to go out and improve through means other than the draft.
00:33:01
Speaker
by throwing around that cap money. Is that a fair thought as someone that is not really in tune with how front offices work? do Do you guys think that is a big selling point for the team looking forward? I think it's certainly, I mean, that was one of the reasons that we call this year a rebuilding year, right? We didn't have the meetings financially to go and get anybody of any kind of meaningful impact. Now we did get some, I think. I mean, I think overall, you know, Curtis Samuel was overall a positive. I think Mac Hollins was. I mean, oh, I mean, Mac Hollins, dude, best best wide receiver last night. Yeah, 73 yards from Mac and a touchdown. Yeah, Mac Hollins can sign a lifetime contract for as far as I'm concerned.
00:33:52
Speaker
But yeah, now you've got, and I don't remember what the exact numbers are, but you got money to go and play with now, this season, and and and money enough to, I mean, if memory serves, go and get somebody that matters, right? I think I saw some numbers go by by a guy like Greg Thompson, friend of the show, um who, uh, acquaintance of the show.
00:34:19
Speaker
wherere we're we're Yeah, we're a little too big for our break. We bullied Greg into being on our show once before. he's even From what he's saying, he's a cap extraordinaire. So please go follow him at Greg Thompson on Twitter. um And he he seems to think that we could easily get to... Right now we're negative two and a half over the cap. We could easily get to 25 million under before doing many big recidings and things like that. but There's a whole slew. We got some, uh, homegrown products like Greg Russo and Christian Benford and Khalil Shakir. And there's a whole slew of guys that, uh, are going to be on that docket. So that's an awesome off season conversation as we get into, at least we have fun things like that to think about. Um, and, uh, but we'll get there. So yeah. Um, guys, I have to go here.
00:35:09
Speaker
I
Officiating and Fairness Debate
00:35:10
Speaker
have to go here. I'm not going to be the guy. I'm not ready to say that the NFL is hashtag rigged. that's there is That there is, there's a conspiracy theory, but boy, oh boy, oh boy. Is it too coincidental for me to not have the back of my hair back up and hit. Wow. The hair on the back of my neck start to stand up. It's too coincidental. There's too many.
00:35:35
Speaker
Crucial calls that happen in crucial moments of almost every game this season and in the past seasons That have fallen the Chiefs way. I I don't I don't I don't even know what to do about it anymore I don't fucking know what to do about it anymore Um, there's, uh, that false start by, uh, at Oliver, you go back and see the replay that guy timed up that Pat, that, that rush, like nobody's fucking business, the best in the business. You see miles Garrett, you see, um, all the, all these guys go ahead and do that and play like that. What are we doing? What are we doing? We see at Oliver get, he got, he got pretty much hung up to dry. He got harangued by the neck. No call right in front of the ref.
00:36:21
Speaker
that That call of of that catch to Xavier worthy, right, right? that This guy over here, that's a catch. Ball hit the ground. My eight month old daughter can tell me that's not a catch. And then fourth and one, are you kidding me? Duncan K kay got there on the third down, first of all, and then second of all, Josh Allen got there. What are we doing?
00:36:43
Speaker
Um, I don't know. So i let's open this can of worms. Cause I think it's deserves to be talked about. Ref conversation aside, I don't understand why a multibillion dollar organization can't have a camera that goes over the line of scrimmage to see that, to help make that decision a known entity. You can, you can do that. You have the technology, you have the overhead cameras, put one over the play. And I understand that they don't want the ball to hit the camera, whatever.
00:37:14
Speaker
if If it's fourth and one and you know that they're going for it, put the camera over it so you can make a definitive call. That one bothered me. We can see the goddamn space station. We can get a camera that's above the the stadium in 8K. We could see that thing. We could see every day goddamn freckle and pour in every one of those players from the top of the stadium. I don't want to, I don't even know. That's like Hit the hit the hit the fucking hit the fucking camera. I don't try yeah anyway what I like there's like there's already a chip in the ball. I don't remember what the chip does I think it like determines how fast it's moving or shit. like someone Well, that's cool But like dude, there's there's already a chip in the boy like use that technology Like if the if any part of that ball gets the spot where it needs to go Like Bing Bing Bing a Bing green light turns on it's a first down. It should be that simple. I two old guys with a bunch of chains that they can argue and somebody can override. Yeah. And instead we got who one of them said it was good. The one that could see the fucking wall. And the other one who said it was bad was behind. Yeah. Those guys were a half yard apart, dude. Yeah. my Fucking God. Now, here's why go ahead. Go ahead. Here's why I can't.
00:38:22
Speaker
I can't allow myself to even remotely buy into what you're saying, Tom. and And my reasons, I feel like I mentioned them before. They're completely, completely selfish. If if I were to find out that the NFL was rigged and that it was all scripted,
00:38:45
Speaker
it would be it'd be like 32 years of my life were just we just wasted. Like, what am I believing in? Like, dude, I like for my own mental sanity, I cannot allow myself to believe for a moment that I have invested so much emotion and time and stress and money into something that was already predetermined. I have to believe that my team always had a shot. I just have to. I have to believe that, too.
00:39:17
Speaker
No, man. And I think that's 100% healthy. And I'm exactly there with you. i I'm not ready to get anywhere close to saying that the it's scripted, that it's rigged. But I am ready to say that there's too many hot button calls made for the Chiefs in a hot button situation. It is. I am ready to say no. Yeah, it's not. It's beyond weird. it's quince It's too coincidental. And it sucks that we can sit at home on my fucking couch and I can see it on the screen and we nothing can be done about it.
00:39:45
Speaker
Now, this is where my brain went today. And this is where I'm going to be really fucking upset. um Do you guys remember the last time the bills were on the short end of the stick ah for some crazy rule, NFL rule and a playoff game against the Kansas City Chiefs?
00:40:01
Speaker
was this over time rule. Remember when, uh, Josh Allen never got to touch the ball. The next year, oh everybody gets the ball. Guess what? Doesn't fucking matter because we didn't help us at the time. Guess who had helped the goddamn fucking Kansas city chiefs and for Travis ah Patrick, my homes, Travis, Kelsey, and Andy Reed to waltz on over to the Superbowl. I don't want to hear, I don't want it. I do not want to hear that next season, this off season, they're going to put a chip in the ball. And that's how you determine a first down.
00:40:30
Speaker
because guess who fucking got the shit into that stick again? The Buffalo Bills and the, in Bills Mafia and Josh Allen and Sean McDermott. I don't want to hear that. I don't want that. I don't, I give it two years, then sure. Change the rule. I don't want this in the off season because, Oh, we're going to change it now. Cause you look at us. We're being so great. You know, so benevolent.
00:40:51
Speaker
ah that's That would drive me fucking bananas. I that would i would lose my mind. Does that remind you of anything, Nigel? Good. Ducking into hockey for a minute? but i Oh, hu yeah. Yeah, good call, Jake. Wow, I never thought about that.
00:41:07
Speaker
That is very an interesting. Can you share with the class and give context for us? non hoy know In 1999, the Dallas Stars and Buffalo Zebras were playing for the Stanley Cup. It was game six. Dallas was up three games to two. They needed one more game to win. It was over time. It was like triple over time. And at that stage in the NHL, if you if any part of your body was in the blue paint, the crease, and you scored a goal, automatic, no goal.
00:41:33
Speaker
Brett Hall, a prolific great player, put the puck in the net and there's an overhead cam that shows his foot. It's not a toe. It's not a blade. His foot is in the blue crease inches. The Dallas stars celebrate. They, the refs call it a goal. Buffalo is furious. They're like, what are you doing? That's not a goal. And essentially the response was, uh, we called it already. Sorry. Uh, and then that summer.
00:41:59
Speaker
The rule changed. No more if your body part was in the, the rules got no more. If your body part was in the crease, it was a no goal. You were allowed to score if your foot was in the crease. So it's a very Buffalo thing to have happened. well And I, oh my God, that sucks. That sucks so hard. I don't want to hear it. I want it to be, I want another year of old guys and chains to coming out in stripes and trying to measure this ball, but with their eyeballs. That's what I want. I do not want that in the off season to change.
00:42:24
Speaker
Here's here's the other thing that needs to happen, dude. It just being a referee. And I think this probably goes across all sports. Right. in And in baseball, they had what's his shit. that There was the umpire that everybody hated. um Angel Hernandez, I think his name was. um He was a baseball umpire that the whole baseball community hated. There's bad baseball on this podcast. Look at us. There's bad. Surprise, surprise. There's basketball referees that everyone hates, dude, like Being a referee is far is is just a very subjective thing. And I think this should happen across all sports, but I mean, at least in football, the one that makes the most money. and It just feels like every call needs to be reviewed.
00:43:10
Speaker
like if you're gonna make a call, like even just something as simple as like the difference of like encroachment or offsides or false start or offsides and false start, right? Like why would you leave that up to the referees that are just literally human beings that are just watching, like not knowing that something is going to happen, just kind of expecting or or waiting for something to happen. and Right. And then they get together and they talk about it. It's like, what did you see? What did you see? What did you see? And then it feels like it's just like majority rules is what they go with.
00:43:49
Speaker
It just it just feels like they should all be reviewable by camera. Hey, everybody moved before the ball snapped, but we don't know who went first. Let's take it to the camera so we can call the right penalty. We know there's a penalty that needs to happen here, but we didn't actually see for sure who did it. So we're going to look at it again. Like, like, why is why can't that just happen? I'm going to unfold my own tin foil hat.
00:44:16
Speaker
With the rise of partnerships with companies like FanDuel,
00:44:23
Speaker
I'm curious how much that goes into how accurate they want refing and- Oh, what a can of worms, dude. I'm not saying anything definitive. I'm wondering aloud. And I don't think it's look it's it's real loud. it's It's a business. It's a business. They are they they are classified with the IRS as an entertainment business, not a sports league. And I think that's there's something to be said with that.
00:44:48
Speaker
I'm going to be sick, dude. I know I fucking hate that because like it feels like it's like something from like 1982. Right. When they're all that when the when the watch what you watched on the screen on your ah your old television back at home on Grandma Grandpa's TV it was all grainy. You couldn't actually see. They didn't do really root replays all that often. Cool. right Let the refs call it. Fantastic. But it's fucking twenty twenty five. I can see it from my couch. It shouldn't be the same. I saw the best by the best solution I've ever heard for the reffing problem is get every single ref.
00:45:19
Speaker
On the field, there's seven them seven of them on the field, double them. Everybody has a partner up top who is helping them, not trying to correct them, not trying to big boy them, just trying to help make them to get them the right with the right call. every And they they're the ones who get every view from every camera, every single one. They get every view. The guy makes the call, he throws a flag. The guy in his ear immediately goes in, ah, right call. Good job. Or, nah, pick that up. That's not a flag. We're good to go. Keep moving.
00:45:46
Speaker
Like it's that simple ah double, double the refs, get everybody cameras. So everybody, so they they have somebody in the ear who could immediately tell them what, if there was the right call or not and keep moving.
00:46:00
Speaker
I, I, my only concern with that is it just brings up more subjectivity or more people. Yeah. No, that's true. So it's not like that. would Like that could be too many cooks in the kitchen. Maybe. Yeah, it could be because, because like, what about a play where like there's sometimes plays where refs will throw multiple flags, right? And then that you got to tag in all their buddies too. It's like, Oh boy.
00:46:22
Speaker
but But currently, is there a video ref that somebody that sits in the press box that watches video feed and and is there to kind of help aid in reviews? I think there's the all knowing one in New York, right? They're always saying, hey, we're going to New York with this one. um But I don't actually know. That's a good question. yeah it um that Like a middle ground, have a kind of definitive one or two ref panel that sits in the press box that is able to see those those video calls in real time. I don't know. Want a Democrat, want a Republican.
00:46:55
Speaker
Oh, boy. Now I really get it. Oh, man. So, yeah, let's keep moving. Let's keep moving. Anyway, I just needed to get that off my chest. I'm already feeling a little better, boys. I don't know about you guys, but I feel feel worse somehow. Yeah, I'm just so sad that we're doing this again, bro. I know. I know. Here we are. Can we talk about James Cook? He played a fucking game.
Player Highlights and Future Prospects
00:47:20
Speaker
I can't believe it took us to the third quarter to figure out that we should just run the ball down their throat and big boy. And like we have all season, I don't understand. I don't understand. I don't understand. I don't understand. I don't understand. Why why did that take so long? we And it's not like, Hey, Oh man, are we actually good at running? No, we've known we're good at running the ball. Dude. He ever was like over eight yards of carry. I think it was. Yeah. Or eight yards a touch, something like that. Oh my God. And then ah yeah, it's going to,
00:47:50
Speaker
It's going to really suck when James Cook signed someplace else. You know, Brandon Bean is not signing this contract. He's not doing it. You're on that. You're on that hill. I am slowly tiptoeing my way off of that hill. No shot. He's going to command 10 to 12 million. Yeah. There's no way Bean's putting that in the running back position. And we got and we are. We got him in the third. Right. We got him. No, we see a second round pick. Second round pick. Yeah.
00:48:16
Speaker
8.4 yards per touch. nigel includes Hey man, I'd send it up. i'd say Six and a half just rushing for, uh, so good. he had What a year for that guy. At at least thank God we have him for next year, right? He has one more year on his, report one more year. And then we go from there. Um, what the, we'll have to see this, but
00:48:44
Speaker
He's going to command so much money. He's going to get the bag. It's going to be, it's going to be a lot, but yeah, dude. I don't know. Fuck. I'm just so sorry that we're doing this again, man. I just, I just, I'm just sad to be doing this again. I'm sad. to be I'm sad for all of us. I always said earlier, that's all I feel like I can keep going back to.
00:49:06
Speaker
I got I do got one more bone to pick actually. Fuck. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Get busted out. What do you got named? I'm sorry. I know that, dude, going into last night 20 for 21 on the tosh push this season. Oh, but my God.
00:49:22
Speaker
Couldn't you couldn't you guys feel i maybe it was i the only one that felt early by push push number two that we had to get away from that play that it wasn't going to happen that night. They had an answer. Yeah. Or they had an answer. Can we please fucking like have do a variation? Something different. Do something is something different. I was I couldn't believe that we kept coming back to that.
00:49:47
Speaker
But it was it like, dude, it was the way that Kansas City was stopping us on those like it like they were bullying us. Like we were getting our asses kicked on those plays, dude. And we kept going back and I'm like. dude I couldn't believe what I was watching. I was getting so frustrated watching us run that play over and over again. The only time it fucking worked, Josh Allen jumped over the pile and almost fumble.
00:50:13
Speaker
I was so pissed about that, dude. That one I put exclusively on Joe Brady. You've got to recognize that that isn't happening. Bail out of that. Get into something else.
00:50:26
Speaker
Oh, that was that was yeah something that was so frustrating. Yeah, that chapped my ass. There is absolutely an argument and I see it right. I get it. And I hear the information and I understand where you come from. But I disagree. But some people are like, dude, it's it's I mean, it was the most successful play we ran all season that you have to keep going back to it. And it's like once again, like, dude, the eye test, like, look at the way that they were fucking like stopping us on those plays.
00:50:54
Speaker
It was it was absolutely egregious, dude. So I, um yeah, dude, I don't I don't know. I don't know. Jake, did you have any feelings on that um that like just them running that play over and over again? Uh, yeah, I mean, I agree. Like it put mix it up, put in a variation or run, run, ah run a not a real play, but like run a different play.
Defensive Line Weaknesses
00:51:21
Speaker
Um,
00:51:24
Speaker
I don't know, man. Yeah, just, just after, after I agree with you after the first one or two, try something new, try something different. It's clearly not going to get you across the line on this one.
00:51:35
Speaker
Yeah. I guess I want to get into, I had one last question that I was going to ask you and Tom. And Tom, I'm going to step away for a quick second here. But I'll toss it out there anyway, Jake. And then I'll answer as well if Tom's not back. But Brandon, being his famous post-season quote is, the game that you get eliminated always highlights what it is that your problem, your biggest weaknesses.
00:52:04
Speaker
Right. So I guess looking at last night's game, and if you would like me to go first so that you can think about it for a minute, please feel free to say so. But is there something you can find from last night that you can identify as the biggest weakness?
00:52:22
Speaker
I don't know. I guess I don't know if I'm qualified to say, but I guess for me, based on what I said earlier, I'll i'll say defensive line, maybe. Yeah. Yeah. Where were you thinking, dude, it was, it was defensive line, but man, all of a sudden after last night, I I'm cornerback is suddenly very high on my list. And, and the reason it's sudden is I guess there was always a bit of me that was holding out some hope for Kyra Elam.
00:52:54
Speaker
Like I saw enough moments of of really great play from him in key situations where I was willing to give him another shot. Um, like he just kept doing enough for me to be like, you know what? There's enough there where like, I'm ready to like, I'm willing to give him another shot. And I think last night, dude, he might've really, he might've really blown that for me, for even me last night. And I was a pretty.
00:53:22
Speaker
pretty consistent guy or Elam supporter overall. Um, yeah. And that, and that's definitely a bummer. I think even for those of us that were looking for a reason to stand by him, I think he probably burned a lot of those bridges last night.
Future Defensive Focus
00:53:39
Speaker
If I had to guess. Yeah, for sure. Well, and look, look at who we were playing. They spent, uh, spent and spend a lot of draft capital on the defensive side of the ball.
00:53:48
Speaker
and That's a reason they're so successful and and for Buffalo this year I think I think we proved that Josh Allen does not need grade a top tier Targets to be impactful and effective. So I totally agree with you Spend spend your resources on on some help on the defensive side this offseason Yeah, that's and that's where I that's where I land in terms of that cap money dude like and you and you just hit it on the head Jake like we showed and that we don't need, you know, the $30 million dollars a year wide receiver for the offense to be great. And I mean, truly, I mean, historically great as this bill's team, this bill's offense was this year. um So given that,
00:54:31
Speaker
I think, yeah, go, go spend the money on the defensive side of the ball, be able to stop the other team from scoring any way that you can. Whether that's, whether that's, you know, just like, uh, like a Cooper de Jean type player in the secondary. Like I think for the bills with, with, when we're going to be picking best defensive player available, because you can use them everywhere. Cause I got another guy who's a free agent right now who I would be fine if he didn't come back. And that's tomorrow. Hamlin, who was the starter this year.
00:55:02
Speaker
Right. So you need, you sure you need an impactful defensive player on all three tiers of the defense. So for me, you know, and Tom, I'll talk i'll talk just let you know where we're at here. Brandon Bean's famous post-season quote, your elimination game exposes what your weaknesses are.
00:55:19
Speaker
And I just asked Jake if there was anything that he, um, that's something that really stuck out for him. And he said defensive line. And I agreed with, but I also mentioned the fact that I think after last night, assuming that Rasul Douglas isn't coming back and seeing what we saw at a Kyrie Elam last night. And he, he's who I mentioned, I think lost whatever remaining supporters he had. Cornerback is officially a concern for me.
00:55:44
Speaker
yeah this football team absolutely which is why i say you know with the pick that we're going to have your best defensive player available i'm dude i'm sorry for if comparatively the season cooper de jean had versus the season that keon coleman had would have rather have had cooper de jean 100 times out of 100 e He's been fucking sick for Philly, dude. And just playing for his Super Bowl this year. Effective. Yeah. ah fast So effective. Yeah. Yeah. And then I'm about it. That's going to be fun. It's going to fun for us to debate and think about and and figure out. But I totally agree. did you Yes. so Are you on the in the same camp as us? Did you have any other thoughts? I got a bunch of camps. um I think the places that I feel good are the O-line, quarterback,
00:56:32
Speaker
and running backs if we can get Ty Johnson back and linebacker. That's about it. So you could get meme and convince me we need defensive ends, that we need interior defensive line. You could convince me that we need safeties, that we need cornerbacks, that we need wide receivers.
00:56:52
Speaker
I think tight ends probably we fine too. we I think that's fine um for the amount that we use them. So in the amount that's already invested into that. So um I think any one of those spots, I could i could make a case for where we need we need some some some support. um i think it's I think it's got to be de-lined. I think it's got to be de-lined.
00:57:12
Speaker
um I think that's just so effective and they're so hard to find. so That's the thing that sucks. It's they don't grow on trees, right? You can't just go get a ton. You can't go get one, right? they They're not around. The fact that maybe Max Crosby and Miles Gadd are available is what's telling me, send them a first and two seconds. What do you then, you right? Like go send them. Send what you can to go get one of those guys.
00:57:37
Speaker
And the thing that stinks is in order, in order to draft a guy like a, like a Crosby or a Garrett or a Hutchinson, you had to be dog shit. You had to be picking second, right? Yeah. and we're and And thank God we're not, like, you know, the how miserable we we would we would we be, right? If that's what we were doing. Like, but this would be not a fun podcast with the savers and the Buffalo Bills both sucking at the same time. um Like, so ah yeah, they just don't, I don't know how you, I don't know how you get that.
00:58:09
Speaker
unless you just get lucky, right? You just get lucky and get somebody in the end of the first or the second. You get it. I mean, honestly, we're really you lucky that we got Groot at what 28, right? some like A guy like Groot for where we picked him. That's awesome return. That is awesome return.
00:58:25
Speaker
Man, but you know what? Like, look at what like Kansas City, pink, picked on Trent McDuffie, like twenty eight, twenty nine, twenty seven, somewhere. They traded it right in front of us before we got Kyra either. Right. They traded right in front of us before us that year. Oh, my God. To go get because that's right. Can you imagine if we got Trent McDuffie and Trent McDuffie instead of Kyrie? I know. Oh, dude, dude, we're going way down this fucking rabbit hole now. Come on down, buddy. Come on down.
00:58:58
Speaker
I did forget that. Yeah, they got. Yeah, that would have been sweet. That would have been sweet. To be honest, probably would have been our pick. And then Bean, they traded in front. They picked them and Bean panic picked.
00:59:15
Speaker
Can't go down that road. Can't go down that road. Nope. I'm I'm good. I think we have I think this is enough. Well, I think we've we've got we've been at enough cathartic therapy this evening.
00:59:29
Speaker
Hopefully. Yeah. Well, the things I know, I love you boys. o And, uh, I'm so glad we're doing this. So here's another year. We'll see you guys in the off season where we're here all year. So come hang out. We got lots of cool and fun things and goofy things to talk about and think about. And, uh, uh, we'd love for you to join the ride and have a good evening. Go bills, go savers.
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