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Ep. 83 - Buffalo Bills Offensive Decisions So Far
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Weeeelllllllcome in! The boys, Nigel & Tom, chop it up and break down the Bills offensive moves so far this offseason.
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Introduction to Let's Go Buffalo Podcast
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You're listening to the Let's Go Buffalo Podcast, your new favorite podcast for everything Bills and Savings.
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Hello, what's going on? You're listening to the Let's Go Buffalo podcast, your favorite podcast for all things Bills and Sabres, with two of the pals today, Nigel and Tom.
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Episode 83 going to be coming at you all. Quick reminder, you know what it is. Go follow the socials. We're on all of them. You can find us with the handle at Let's Go Buff Pod.
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That's Buff with two Fs. Tommy,
Casual Chat: Year-End Reflections
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how are you doing on this lovely Tuesday, my guy? What up, man? I'm good. um so I'm fantastic. Having a nice little day. i'm excited to be here chatting with you and uh yeah dude yeah the things are good things are good we're getting closer to the end of the year the the teachers yeah i mean yeah you know how this feels like the the teachers kind of getting to the end of the year is like a mad sprint as you're hurtling down the the mountain and the mountains on fire and there's an avalanche coming too yeah but um but uh the end is in sight so that's a good feeling i'm i'm quite happy and content and
00:01:23
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It's sunny and blue skies and all that kind of stuff. So yeah, man, I'm good. Things are good. Yeah, yeah. By running, but yeah you also mean like kind of falling towards the end there. I just yeah feel like you just did kind of continuously falling over myself.
00:01:39
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It's the Doctor Strange thing where they kilts the world, you know, and all of sudden you're like, you're going, yeah, that's what happens. So that pretty much sums it up. Don't become a teacher, kids. um Just kidding. It's a very noble profession.
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um i I left it.
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But that's okay. That's all right. Oh, man. Yep. All right, pal. Everybody's got to do something. Everybody's got to something. And now I'm doing coffee and beer.
NFL Schedule Changes: Good or Bad Idea?
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Which, by the way, what are we drinking tonight, Tom? We're not drinking beer, but we are drinking coffee.
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Bean juice. Bean juice. Yeah. Anything cool about your coffee at all? No, it came out of a coffee pot, and I like it. And it's in nice Buffalo Bills mug. That came from a Patriots fan friend. Ooh.
00:02:22
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Ooh, okay. Okay. You know, cats and dogs can live together. Everybody. Good to know. Well, if you're a coffee nerd out there, like I am, I am currently drinking decaf because it's three o'clock in the afternoon where I am, but I'm drinking the sugar cane decaf from black and white roasters, which are out of one of the Carolinas. I want to say North Carolina, I think.
00:02:42
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Maybe, maybe think I'm right there, but anyway, Tom, there were a couple of things you wanted to, ah you wanted to kick around before we got into the meat of today's pod, which is going to be the state of the roster on the offensive side of the ball for the bills right now. But before we get into that, Tommy, what'd you want to chat about?
00:03:00
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I just wanted to pick your brain because every time Roger de good Goodell, NFL commissioner, you know, speaking to a microphone, he seems to want he has these grand ideas. I'm like, to be honest, I don't know if i want to see inside his head, but I kind of might be interesting.
00:03:12
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um The guy is always talking about more, and more, and more. And I'm sure the NFL owners are just seeing dollar signs just sprout out from Goodell's head. um But the two things I just wanted to throw around just to like, what would that mean for the NFL just in general, not even just like the bills, is ah the expansion from 17 game schedule to an 18 game schedule.
00:03:32
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And then even the possibility of like teams being based internationally. like Yeah. so um let's start with the international thing just because it's kind of the the the one closest to the front of my brain um every year we've been seeing games played internationally right i think it's been london we've seen them in germany uh brazil wasn't there just one in ireland ireland i think that was college i think it was college oh okay yeah that was college but still like the same idea right like they're trying to get the sport of american football in front of these like worldwide fans um and so i think we have like eight games nfl games being played internationally or something like that this season um
00:04:12
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but And then every time he comes up, like he's always constantly talking about trying to get teams based internationally. And a though the idea just seems wild to me. What do you think? Yeah, i so I'm going to be completely 100% honest, transparent. This is the first I'm hearing of them being based outside of the U.S., which... I'll find an article here. You keep talking for a second. Which seems which seems impossible. What I thought it was was the idea of...
00:04:41
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adding even more international games than there already are, which I, I absolutely cannot stand the international games. I don't think these fields are properly equipped to handle a football game.
00:04:55
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I don't think it's fair to the players dude, without giving them like extra compensation.
International NFL Teams: Feasible or Not?
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It's a massive toll on their bodies. Yeah. you know ah to go and like overhaul their body clocks like that. and and you know it just i don't know, man. i don't like the international games at all. I wish we didn't do any of them. The players hate it It seems like every time... i feel like every time the Bills go, somebody gets hurt.
00:05:21
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like didnt Wasn't the last time we went in London against the Jags and we lost Daquan. Who else that game? Daquan. Yeah. yep i mean It seems crazy. Like something will have to happen with sports medicine in order for athletes to be able to do this, like some kind of big advancement.
00:05:39
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You know, um I completely agree. I found a a quote. So this is from February. um ah The Associated Press um I've quoted on February 3rd, 2025, Roger Goodell.
00:05:52
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And I quote, I do think there's possible potential that someday we'll have an international franchise. If we do it, it would not surprise me at all if a Super Bowl follows and is played there. just So I think it's on his mind. I don't think it'll happen soon. and I don't think it'll happen.
00:06:07
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Who knows if it happens at all, but he's at least thinking about it. And the guys, I mean, he's the one lobbying for all this and kind of pushing the the league in certain directions. So I don't know. I mean, maybe it's not under his reign. Maybe it's the next commissioner is the one who kind of makes that happen or something. But um I agree. I just don't know how it would work. You know, if you're playing...
00:06:24
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like it's one It's enough it's ah for one international game a season, just like you just said, like everybody spending time you know flying you know across the but Atlantic Ocean to play in London.
00:06:36
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It's a big toll on athletes' bodies, but if a team is based there, they'd have to be flying all the time, right? That's multiple games a year. Yeah. Yeah, dude. It almost feels like...
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yeah if you're going to do that, like have a team stationed out there, yeah you would need to have like, like, like be able to pull the trigger on four initially.
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Yeah. So that they can also hold a vision. Yeah. Like also like play a little bit. Yeah. Right. And that way there's someone's not traveling every single week, you know, that you're asking team to bring his, you know, a player to bring his family to Barcelona, you know, like,
00:07:14
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Yeah, I don't know, man. I don't think it would be possible personally. i think it's outrageous. I think it's a crazy idea, but but it's it's at' at least out there. um Big shout out to our buddy Ethan. What's up, man? Thanks for hanging.
18-Game NFL Season: Pros and Cons
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We appreciate you. If anybody else is out there watching on YouTube, either live right now or later on, please drop a comment, drop a like, all that good stuff. We appreciate it. um Then ah so I think that's the more outlandish one. I think the other one, 18 game season. I think that's happening.
00:07:42
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I think that's absolutely happening within the next few years. Really? Yeah, I think it's guaranteed. I don't. Oh, man, I don't that. i't I don't like it I think you're, i don't think the players are going to like it.
00:07:55
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i think you're going to see, I think it's going to cause some issues with, with the players. Truly it's, I mean, god it's just such a grueling season, dude. It's such an unbelievably physical game.
00:08:07
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Yeah. Like, and if you do, you're going to have to infuse another, like it's to have to be two by weeks. You're going to have to. At least, right? Get another play week in there. Get the body some time. to to go there i i wanted I want you to know, just for the record, I'm with you. I agree. like I think even 17 is pushing it.
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Going from 16 to 17, I think, was a big difference. I think it's going to be a big difference from 17 to 18. I just see the way that the league is expanding, the way that the money is just being printed at at at will, i think I think there's going to be a big push for it.
00:08:41
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I agree that the players in the in the union is going to be ah they're going to be a big sticky point in making that happen. And I don't know what they'll want, what kind of concessions they'll want in return to make it happen. But um yeah, it just I think it's been already lobbied enough that I think with either under this CBA or the next one that comes up in 2030, I think there will be a push.
00:09:04
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Wow. That would be... I'm going to be surprised if it happens, honestly. um but i also wouldn't be like, mean, I wouldn't be shocked by any stretch of the imagination. It is more money and,
00:09:17
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yeah That's what makes everything go round. But I just feel bad for the players. Yeah. Go ready. One other plus that would push the Super Bowl one more week later, which is like closer to President's Day weekend.
00:09:32
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So we throw the Super Bowl on keep that Super Bowl on Sunday at national holiday on Monday. Everybody gets the day off on Monday. That would be cool. That's not bad. You don't need to make the players play one more week, though. I mean, you could just do two bye weeks in between the conference championship games, you know? You're so practical, Nigel. You're so practical. Who knows?
00:09:54
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Yeah, we'll see. I think it was a big stretch. and so It's also just so weird going from 16 to 17 with, like, the records. You know, like, oh, a thousand-yard receiving season isn't that crazy anymore.
00:10:05
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Like that's almost expected, you know? Yeah. um yeah I know you're going to have, you're going have to have like different eras of record books, right? Like, don't know, especially at 18. Right. And if we only had like four years at 17 games and then all of a sudden, boom, now we're at 18. Like that's so much more playing time. Right. Um,
00:10:28
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Yeah. Or do you build in more rest weeks for players? So it's kind of like, you know, like pitchers in baseball who don't pitchers don't play every game, you know, is do you have I don't I think that'd be and it would completely change how rosters are are are managed and put together. But yeah, like if you're the Bills, you're you're you're playing a team that's like two and nine or whatever. Like, do you sit Josh Allen that that week?
00:10:52
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Maybe because there's more games. Not all of them matter, but it's still, you know, like, I don't know. um It's yeah. Who knows? i hope know the players I hope for the players sake and for the sake of injuries, because injuries just just can so quickly derail an entire season.
00:11:08
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I think you would shorten careers with the with the decision. Yeah. so I think you truly would. i'd be i I'm going to be surprised if it happens, not shocked, and I i don't predict i don't predict that it will.
00:11:19
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I feel you. Well, anyway, so just kind of curious. We'll see what happens. we'll bob I'm sure at some point another you another quote will come out, and we'll talk about it again when it comes. Yeah. um Let's talk some Buffalo Bills.
Buffalo Bills Roster Analysis: Offense
00:11:31
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um The Buffalo Bills have made quite a few offseason moves through free agency, through draft, through all sorts of things. um And I think now is a good time. It's, you know, May 13th. We're approaching rookie camp is is live right now.
00:11:44
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um And OTAs are going to start happening. And then we get training camp. I think we should take a look and see like, hey, what does all these all these moves? What do all these moves mean for the the the roster? And I think, um like you said, we should start on the offensive side of the ball.
00:11:59
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um and talk through, like, are there ah position battles? Are there maybe scheme changes based on the certain personnel that was included? Like, what what what can we be expecting as we're going into this offseason to kind of learn more and more about um the ah the state of the roster?
00:12:16
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um What position do you want to start pal? I'll let you pick. um Let's start at quarterback just because I think this is so cut and dry. Okay, cool. So who's on the roster right now at quarterback?
00:12:27
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Right now you you're looking at Josh Allen, Mitch Trubisky, Mike White, Shane Buchel. Yep. um and Here, clearly, Josh is the starter, right? that's that Nothing's happening there. Shane Buchel, I think, is pretty well locked in as a practice squad player.
00:12:45
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And I think the one where we could see some movement is either Mitch Trubisky or Mike White will be the the backup QB, and the other will be Cubs. yeah Dollars and cents wise, you're hoping that Mike White wins out that job because ah you can you can still release Mitch Trubisky and save yourself, I think it's like two over $2 million if memory serves.
00:13:09
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um It's not an insignificant amount of money, which... you know That right there would go a long way in terms of making sure your draft picks are signed. and which i mean Hopefully all that's handled by the time you know a camp battle is decided. but it's It's good for the Bills' finances if Mike White wins out that job.
00:13:27
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Predictably, I don't think he does. I still think as rough as he's looked in recent years, I still think personally Mitch Trubisky is the better of the two. but you know that's why you have That's why you have training camp battles.
00:13:42
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Right. i'm I'm honestly glad that we have a QB to battle. I feel like for the last few years, it's kind of just been slotted in. Once the once the draft happens, we know who it is. Like, there's they're not even bringing in and making an attempt at a battle. So um I think that's good.
00:13:56
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um And I really think the the big thing is that who's Josh Allen comfortable with who is going to help Josh Allen prepare the best. that quarterback to position is yeah. The person who kind of comes in and pinch hit it, uh, excuse me, whoa, pinch hits when needed.
00:14:12
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But, uh, more importantly, every week they're helping Josh prepare. So who is Josh the, the one most comfortable with? And thankfully, but he's had experience with both. Um, I think he really enjoys Mitch, but I'm sure, you know, Mike White was brought in because he can also offer, have you know, have something to offer, but we'll find out.
00:14:29
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We'll find out. Um, again, if we lose Josh Allen, uh, what's the point? ah Sure. Totally agreed.
00:14:37
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yep totally agree right. Well, that was easy. You're right. That was the easy one. Yeah. um Running back. This was also pretty easy, actually. Not much has changed, right? with that in In theory, we're bringing everybody back. Did you see the quote from James Cook this past week saying, hey, he's not like he's least's leaving the door open to holding out for training camp?
00:14:59
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Meaning he's potentially considering it. He's not ruling it out. Yeah, he he was asked directly, hey, are you going to are you considering holding out for training camp? And I can find the quote, but it was essentially the long lines of, no, it's not ruled out. Like, that's not something off I'm not.
00:15:13
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Man, I didn't see any of that. Let me find it. talk Talk me through the Ty Johnson, Ray Davis, Frank Gore Jr., Darrington Evans. Is there anything interesting there? um No, ah really, really nothing to me. i think your running backs ah that are going make the roster are going to be the same three. it's get Well, unless he's traded or whatever, I guess i guess there's still – if he's potentially – considering holding out, I mean, I don't think we've seen Brandon Bean navigate those waters.
00:15:44
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um So we don't know how he handles that. Does he say absolutely fucking not and just, you know, and just get rid of him? But ah again, dude,
00:15:57
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I mean, James Cook has less than zero leverage right now in terms of holding out. Literally, like, would be would be getting fined more money than he's making.
00:16:10
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um So, like, that would be... ah To me, super unintelligent on his part. But I digress. Go ahead. Especially because he hasn't had multiple monster seasons.
00:16:23
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He's had his rookie season. He had a um a well decent year two season. And then a very good year three. He was very good. Yes. but he has not had multiple then it's like a lights out easy answer yes we need to extend him yeah um right he has not shown shown that and especially because he also hasn't shown that he's a you know three down back he's just he's not he's not and that and um you know saquon barkley the derrick henry's of the world those guys are right they are players who to be honest even derrick henry's making like eight million a year he's not like he's not breaking the bank saquon is saquon is up at the 20 i think he just signed his new deal um
00:17:00
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But Saquon will play 90% of snaps. Yeah. Right. And that's why. And he's ah and he's ah phenomenal at all parts of the game. And that's why he's being paid like that. um yeah we'll find out the the quote is is this um and I quote I necessarily don't want to talk about it right now because it's something I want the business to take care of and he also said he wants to hold in business and focus on his teammates so he didn't he didn't say he didn't shut it down but he also didn't say absolutely that's something I will consider doing he's not going to hold out dude there's financially it makes so little sense for him
00:17:39
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Yup. And then it'll be, you know, Frank Gore and Darrington Evans will duke it out for the practice squad. could i couldn't care less which one it is if i'm being totally honest i'm agree with you i agree with you i don't think either one is going to really going to make waves um but nice to think it'll be second year in the system so they know the team they know the system those are asked of them so that's good it's not just for bringing a complete you know a whole new you know whole new set of udfas yeah um so ray davis and ty johnson will be your two and your three and do it I'm excited for a year two Ray Davis. Let's get this kid some time in the system. too
00:18:14
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Let's get him some a full offseason. He is focused on being a running back for the Buffalo Bills. ah I think he could i think he's he's a very solid player. He showed more juice than I thought he had last year.
00:18:26
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um And I'm very excited. I think he's going to be a great contributor this year as well. Yeah. Yep. 10 out of 10 agree. I think he's going to continue to be great. He offers a lot in the past blocking game, right? Every aspect of the game. He's solid.
00:18:40
Speaker
Yeah. Same with Ty Johnson. So yeah. Yeah. a Great room. Love it. um Wide receiver. We're so currently sitting at Khalil Shakir, Keon Coleman, Joshua Palmer, Curtis Samuel, Tyrell Shavers, KJ Hamler, Jalen Virgil, and LaVishka Chenaultz. I feel like there's a draft pick in there that is not listed.
00:18:59
Speaker
Yeah. yeah the seventh round pick wherever he's at um kate and pray there yeah thank you um him as well um i to me this looks fairly straightforward unless a oh and um oh my gosh um the elisha more elisha more just got signed Oh, yeah, that's right. A list is not 100% accurate, folks. Yeah. ah ah So um to me, I'm watching this. I'm looking at this this list, and I'm imagining that the Bills are going to roster five wide receivers, right? That's entirely been where they're at. Last time they did six was because it was Andre Roberts, who was mostly a kick and punt returner.
00:19:39
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um Right. So not necessarily even a wide receiver. He just happened to play that position. So I think we got Khalil for sure. Keon for sure. Josh Palmer for sure. Curtis Samuel for sure.
00:19:51
Speaker
be honest with you i think elijah moore for sure right i think i don't know unless something happens in camp or and one of these other guys the tyrell shavers um pray their um hamler virgil or chernelt like shows out and gives the team a reason to need to roster them over elijah moore um i think he's the only one that could move um without injury but um otherwise i think again this is this is fairly black and white Yeah.
00:20:17
Speaker
Yep. I totally agree with you. And yes, I am also seeing our that our list is an issue in in one or two more spots too. So well well yeah. um But yeah, I, I, it's weird, man, because it felt to me like Caden Prather was, was drafted to be your wide receiver five, your special teams guy. Right. Right.
00:20:40
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And of those five guys you just named, right, Khalil, Keon, Josh Palmer, Curtis Samuel, um and Elijah Moore, I'm not sure which one of those guys is 100% your special teams guy.
00:20:54
Speaker
You know what I'm saying? Is it Curtis Samuel? Is it Keon Coleman? Like, I'm just not sure. I don't think it's close here. Isn't big, like a big a bigger body? I think Elijah Moore could offer some return upside,
Bills' Wide Receiver Lineup: Who Stands Out?
00:21:05
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but not like playing or fielding or blocking on kicks and punts. Yeah, but i'm thinking like I'm thinking like blocking on kicks and stuff like that. Like a Matt Collins meck hollins role. Yeah, exactly. And I struggle to see which one of those guys is going to be that because I would imagine that the vision for them is to have a bigger role than that. I wonder if it's like a maybe...
00:21:28
Speaker
It's kind of like a wide receiver for a wide receiver for B situation. And that quote unquote fifth receiver is a different player all the time. Or maybe it's six wide receivers and Caden Prather still your bottom of the barrel guy. I'm really not sure.
00:21:45
Speaker
That's a good point because you're right. There's not many of those guys that can offer much special teams. Keon seems like the most logical guy to me, but on that same token, I don't think they want to put him in that position and risk the potential injury or the other time away from just focusing on being a Buffalo bills wide receiver, right? You have to write. There's a lot of special teams is still a big time crunch and and a big devotion of time to learn the position and learn what to do. And, um,
00:22:13
Speaker
especially considering that there the kind of the verbiage used around key Honda's off season. They want him to focus and, and to make steps because they're expecting a lot of him. Sure. Yeah. So, yeah, dude. And I think, I mean, the rest of these guys, you know, Tiger Tyrell Shavers, KJ Hamler, Jalen Virgil, LaVishka Chenaultz. I mean, think probably two of those guys would make the practice squad, if I remember correctly.
00:22:38
Speaker
um i don't think it's more than that. It's probably, i mean, at a quick guess, it's probably Shavers and Caden Prather or probably Shavers and Hamler.
00:22:50
Speaker
Yeah. um But, you know, who knows? Maybe Lavishka Chenault has an unbelievable camp. i don't know, dude. Yeah, I think that would be but i stretch yeah um for sure.
00:23:03
Speaker
um Who outside Khalil Shakir? I think he obviously is absolutely the engine of this offense and we'll see lots of targets. Who do you think will be kind of the surprise so of, wow, this player is making a bigger impact than we thought?
00:23:17
Speaker
Um, well, I guess to me, I don't know how much of a surprise it would be, but I think Josh Palmer is going to be exciting. Um, I think having him on this team is going to be the, like a type of player that Josh Allen's going to have success with.
00:23:33
Speaker
Um, and I really think there's a lot of potential for that hookup to be solid. Um, I also feel similarly about Elijah Moore, again, a type of player that in the past Josh Allen has, you know, had success through in the football too. So, um you know, I just think that could be a fun a fun situation there. But I don't know how big of a surprise that would be.
00:23:56
Speaker
think Palmer's are going to be a i think for the general Bills Mafia, I think Palmer will be a surprise. I don't think people are excited about Joshua Palmer. Yeah, I don't think, I mean, he's not a big name, right? He's been on a ah Chargers team that's been, you know, who's had Keenan Allen and Mike Williams, you know, as the one and two. And yeah, you're going to be kind of, you know, under and underneath that. And Hunter Henry, too, who had a couple of big seasons for them.
00:24:21
Speaker
You know, so I think... you know, yeah, you're going to get kind of buried in terms of targets and and opportunities to show what you can do behind and two wide receivers like that. And three, if you include, you know, Hunter Henry as a pass catcher. So um you don't have and a legit number one wide receiver in and Buffalo. it's It's a place where we know everybody eats. And I think Joshua Palmer could have a bigger role here than he ever did with the Chargers.
00:24:49
Speaker
I'm excited. How excited is Elijah Moore to be be with Josh Allen now? The guy's got to be like, finally. yeah I can finally have somebody who can throw the ball.
00:24:59
Speaker
Yeah, somebody with a pulse at the quarterback position for him. Because, yeah, yeah I don't think he's ever had, i don't have a list in front of me. but He went Jets to Browns. So he had Zach Wilson. He had Sam Darnold.
00:25:11
Speaker
He had Deshaun Watson. He had the five quarterbacks who started for the Browns throw to him. you know Yeah, dude. That's that's absolutely unbelievable. The guy's probably just so thrilled.
00:25:23
Speaker
He's got to be excited. So thrilled. Yeah. ah Love it for him. All right. Move on to tight ends. Yep. Cool. So tight
Tight Ends to Watch on the Bills
00:25:31
Speaker
ends. We got a Duncan Cade, Dawson Knox, Zach Davidson, and then um the new rookie.
00:25:37
Speaker
Do you have the name handy on the top of your mind? do. Jackson Hawes. Jackson Hawes. um And I think this is a very easy, this offensive side of the ball. There's a lot. There's not much movement. The defense, when we talk next week, will be all sorts of new pieces and parts.
00:25:52
Speaker
yeah I think this is an easy Duncan Cade, Dawson Knox, and then Hawes. Yeah. Yeah. I believe there's one other name somewhere on the tight end room. Uh, that's like a practice squad contender, but, um, I'm not positive about that, but yeah, I, I totally agree. I think, um, Oh, Robert, uh, uh, Quentin, Robert, Quentin Morris, um, is, is, I think with the signing of Jackson Hawes, you essentially say your goodbyes to to Q Morris and you say, thank you for everything. And he was great for the bills, but this is going to be a more cost efficient option. Um,
00:26:27
Speaker
And a guy that I think he's going to have a lot of success, probably become a fan favorite in Buffalo and as a kind of nose to the grindstone, stick his face in a fan, you know, mauler type blocker. That's going to be a weapon in the run game.
00:26:41
Speaker
Yes, sir. Yes, sir. I think I I'm curious. Do we see more of him than the six offensive linemen or do we see both? Um, we probably will see both.
00:26:52
Speaker
I think it probably depends because you've still got Alec Anderson. Yeah. Right. Um, so I think it's probably going to depend on the run package. Like is there, is it a gap? Is it a zone? If it's a zone type situation, it's probably more likely you see a Jackson Hawes. He's got a little more athleticism to him.
00:27:07
Speaker
Um, then, then, you know, an Alec Anderson, if it's a gap scheme, maybe you see Alec Anderson cause the bills run a little bit of both. Um, So I'm not sure what that looks like for sure, but but so time will tell. It'll be interesting to to to see what goes on there.
00:27:22
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. I'm super excited for that room. I think Don Kincaid is going have a comeback year, dude. I don't know. I just have a feeling. Yeah. I also, you like I'm confident in the, the bills year three um burst for, for him this season. I'm looking forward to that. I think, I think a lot of his lack of success this season, ah let this past season could probably be put on Josh Allen in a lot of areas. Yeah.
00:27:47
Speaker
um ye And yeah, I'm there's way too many people that are dogging on Kincaid right now and I am ready to go spike the football there for sure. i I hope he figures out how to stay healthy.
00:28:00
Speaker
Right. And a little bit of an issue with him. But I i agree. It was a lot of Josh Allen thrown to him down the field and just uncatchable balls. I think he had one of the highest uncatchable ball rates in the NFL at the tight end position. He did. He did like Josh.
00:28:13
Speaker
Figure it out, buddy. This is yeah right. You know, help you help you help your boys out. You had a great year, obviously MVP year. But um yeah, I'm excited for that. um I think you'll have a little a bigger, bigger impact there.
Offensive Line Upgrades for the Bills
00:28:28
Speaker
but Let's talk offensive linemen. um The two big additions to this room are Kendrick Green, who is a free agent guard, and then um Chase Luntz.
00:28:40
Speaker
I believe I have the right... Yeah, Chase Luntz, offensive lineman, a six-round draft pick, um to who was also added at pick 206 in the sixth round. Yeah. um so but To be honest with you, I am so pumped that there is so much continuity from last year.
00:28:58
Speaker
Yeah, dude. I mean, last year the Bills fielded one of the best offensive lines in the league last year. And so I mean, ah major a major thing for me here is if it's not broke, don't fix it.
00:29:11
Speaker
And it kind of seems like they're just going to look to run it back here. um I think...
00:29:19
Speaker
I think the most interesting thing here for me is the lack of contract extensions for Connor McGovern and David Edwards. um Because both of these guys are on expiring deals.
00:29:33
Speaker
um and And I have to imagine that the plan here is to tap into this this depth because I think the offensive line room the bills is kind of an embarrassment of riches a little bit.
00:29:46
Speaker
Yeah. I think there are a lot of very competent players you've got. um I mean, I literally think you've got three to four guys here that could be legitimate starting players in this league. I think Alec Anderson could start.
00:30:01
Speaker
I think Ryan Vandermark could start. um I think SVP could start as a guard or center. um And from what we saw from Tylan Grable last season, that might be a little premature, but he's on that same trajectory.
00:30:14
Speaker
um So yeah i would agree. I just think the Bills have a lot to enjoy here. And I think. You have an opportunity to save money the offensive line room by taking advantage of some of this debt, especially if you plan to keep Osiris Torrance, who is probably going to be around $30 million when the time comes to sign his deal. You think $30? I think it's going to be outrageous. coming to the 20s for sure.
00:30:42
Speaker
I wouldn't be shocked. The cap's only going to keep going up. That's true. That's true. Money, money, money, man. I hope for his sake. I hope, I hope it is just because, you know, I think they all deserve to be paid out the nose as best as possible.
00:30:55
Speaker
um But I agree with you right now. Osiris is the only rookie contract on this line, right? This is an expensive offensive line. Which is good because thank God it works and it's very good. Right. Yeah, totally. Right. At least it's good in top.
00:31:07
Speaker
I don't know. In my mind, top eight in the league, at least um ah with, you know, Spencer Brown and Deion Dawkins on the ends. I think those guys are just lights out and of a governs been fantastic.
00:31:19
Speaker
I'm curious of where they put it because I don't know. Conor McGovern and Josh have just such a, a good chemistry. And this, yeah was this last year was a great experiment and boom, he was being, was proven right by letting go of Mitch Morris and scooching, uh, kind of McGovern in there. Like that was what a gamble and that, what a gamble that paid off.
00:31:37
Speaker
Um, you kind of want to just see that role, you know, you kind of want to see that role, but again, you know, yeah again, we're not in the room and, uh, we'll see. Um, they'll They'll make the decisions. And I, at this point, I'm ready to trust them who are to make those decisions.
00:31:53
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. And then as far, I mean, as far as the practice squad, I don't know. Do you remember off the top of your head, how many ah offensive linemen will make the practice squad? We'll make the practice squad. um Not necessarily, but I mean, and they have total of 16 spots.
00:32:08
Speaker
So I would guess three or four on the offensive line. That'd be my guess. I don't know. Well, Kendrick Green is interesting. um I also think it was kind of interesting for the Bills to take an offensive lineman. um I think for Chase Lund to even make the practice squad for the team this year, i think it's going to take an injury.
00:32:30
Speaker
yeah um I think that's ah it's ah that's a tough road for him. his but i mean The best weapon he's got going for himself is the fact that he's a draft pick. and and Bean will find every reason to keep his draft picks, but I just think that's an uphill battle for him. but We've seen a lot of these late-round draft picks end up being plucked.
00:32:48
Speaker
right we've it's been but Over the last few years, every year, there's a couple, one or two or three, that have been plucked and just hasn't made the squad just because you know this is a tough squad to make. Yep. R.I.P. Rashad Wild Goose.
00:33:04
Speaker
ah What but a camp darling. What a camp darling. Hey, pal, is that the whole offensive side there?
Offensive Strategy: Consistent or Changing?
00:33:11
Speaker
That is. So is there any overarching themes that you're seeing? Do you see anything like pointing to, hey, this might be different or this might be the same. We're locking in this. We're doing this again.
00:33:21
Speaker
Do you have like anything like giving you signs? I mean, i think the offense overall is taking a... we really did a great fucking job last year.
00:33:33
Speaker
Let's try not to reinvent the wheel. Obviously you have an entire season of film with Joe Brady as the OC that's out there now. So the offensive scheme has to evolve in some capacity or another, right?
00:33:49
Speaker
um What that is going to look like remains to be seen. I think you got a couple of new fun weapons for for 17 to work with. So, um you know, we'll, we'll see what that looks like, but I think you're going to continue to see the, everybody eats mentality.
00:34:05
Speaker
I think you're going to continue to see one of the best offensive lines in the league um put together really great, you know, spaces for these running backs to Excel. And I think you're going to see 17 continue to show why he was an MVP this season. yeah,
00:34:19
Speaker
um i think I think you're continuing to bet on 17 being special and driving the bus and seeing you know really what he can do. and Like you said earlier, we'll get into next week, and seeing if we finally have a team that can support Josh Allen in the playoffs on the defensive side of the football.
00:34:38
Speaker
yeah Yeah, that's really where we need it. but I think looking at these rooms, I don't think there's a single room that got worse. No, there's a couple that stayed very much the same, right? Uh, running back stayed very similar.
00:34:49
Speaker
Quarterback has, is going to stay very similar and a tight end will stay very similar. A couple, a couple changes, but, but slightly, um, but none of them got worse in my mind. I think if anything, we're kind of betting on some more development from like James Cook or, um,
00:35:05
Speaker
or Ray Davis and that, that room could get improved. um I think tight end, the addition of Hawes is, could be a kind of X factor. I think that could be, wow, like this, this whole room is now contributing in different ways and their, their strengths are kind of being emphasized.
00:35:19
Speaker
I think the only spot you could say is maybe quarterback too, just because at some point you got to have a spot on your team where, you know, you're not really leaning on anybody and that's a spot to do it. Cause you have Josh Allen and if i Josh Allen's not playing, then, you know, you're kind of up a Creek anyway. So, um,
00:35:34
Speaker
I think it's awesome that Bean was able to have an offseason, and I don't think anybody got worse. There was not there's nothing that really is emphasizing or at least popping out to me like, wow, like this is going to be a concern.
00:35:46
Speaker
Totally agree, dude. yeah i don't I think you said it perfectly when you said that there was no area of the offensive side of the ball that got worse. um yeah And I would make the argument that if anything, it got better with the additions of Elijah Moore and Joshua Palmer. Yeah. I think that's absolutely better than last year.
00:36:09
Speaker
I mean, we were rolling out MVS and Mac Collins and, you know, uh, think that was it. I can't remember. But like, you know, like that we were rolling out some yeah kind of hope ah hope hope to bees, you know, Matt Collins paid off. The MBS obviously didn't.
00:36:25
Speaker
Sure. and And when it comes to blocking, dude, like Jackson Hawes is also a positive addition to this football team, like yeah right off the bat. So like, i think if anything, I don't I'll say this.
00:36:38
Speaker
I don't know how anybody can make the argument that anything got any worse. Yes. Agreed. Right. So what a place to be, what a place to be.
Episode Wrap-Up and Next Episode Preview
00:36:48
Speaker
Well, folks, Hey, um, stick around for next week. We're going to check in and dive into the defensive side of the ball, which is a lot more kind of motion here. So there'll be some more kind of elaborate discussions going on that side. But, um, as always, thank you so much for hanging out with us and, uh, we really appreciate you.
00:37:03
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00:37:19
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