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#5- June Ahern
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June Ahern has authored four books; two novels and two non-fictions, and written two screenplaysYou will also see June 's paranormal investigation at reported haunted sites around San Francisco's Bay Area in historical videos with The Haunted Bay on Amazon Prime, AsianAmericanMovies and Youtube.
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Introduction to the Jimbo Parris Show
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Hi, I'm Jimbo Parris and you are listening to the Jimbo Parris Show. And we should get started right now.
Meet June Ahern: Psychic and Medium Career
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Can you give us a brief introduction of who you are and what you're about? Okay, so my name is June Ahern and I am now retired
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But for over four years, I did psychic readings and mediumship work. And now I'm involved in some paranormal investigations with the Haunted Bay. I'm also an author of four books, and two of them are nonfiction and one is on the subject of
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paranormal, how to talk with spirits, seances, mediums, and ghost hunts.
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And that's what I'm doing. And I give monthly Zoom talks on the metaphysical.
From Private Readings to Teaching and Research
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And you've been doing this for about 40 years, correct? Well, actually, I started in 1975. Yeah, that's a long time. So you have a lot of experience, correct? Yeah, it's a long time. I love it. But I did stop doing private readings, private sessions. Okay. So why did you stop doing private readings?
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Well, you know, it's just like anything else in life where you get to a time where you know something's over. And although I enjoyed it, it was taking a lot more energy than I had. I had other things going on that seemed to be more pressing.
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I just, it was just time to change and I was doing the paranormal investigations and talking about my books and I went back to teaching a little bit more. So it was a decision. How do I, what do I want to do here? And I decided to let go of the majority of my clients.
Near-death Experience: A Turning Point
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So speaking of your paranormal books and your teaching, what kind of first welcomed you into this whole lifestyle? Oh, I had a near fatal accident.
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And when I came back, I went to, I died for a short time in the ambulance. And when I came back, my life changed just drastically after that. I knew things about people by looking at them, by hearing about them.
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And I began to say, why is this happening to her in my life? It wasn't something I was real comfortable with. I didn't understand it. I mean, I was a child of the sixties. I got all that LSD and all that stuff, but this was a little different. And it took me a long time to be able to even tell people that I died and went to the other side.
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and had an experience there and came back. And that's what started me in it. And I got interested in the tarot cards. I wanted to learn about them and what it was about. And I started reading for people. And then people asked me to teach them and I started teaching people. And it just seemed to, I never advertised the life of its own. Right.
Reintegration and Spiritual Challenges
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So can you kind of elaborate more on this special experience you had, this sort of life after death scenario? Yeah, you know, you remember back in the 70s, people didn't really openly talk about it like they do now. It's just something and I grew up in a very religious household. And it was certainly not something you would talk about, you know, anything outside of the parameter of your religion, right, what they told you to think about. And
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My experience is I did not see the light, so to speak. I didn't go through a tunnel. I found myself standing in front of an ornate gate. It was a white gate, you know, about chest-high or around here. And on the other side, I saw people that were relatives.
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There were a whole bunch of people, some I recognized from photographs that my mother had. I never met them. We were immigrants to this country when I was a little girl, so I really didn't meet a relative of my parents. But I did meet my grandfather because he came to America once to visit.
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And he had passed and he came up and he was holding my grandmother's hand and they greeted me and I wanted to go in. I had never experienced, and since then I've done meditation, learned it. I had never experienced the divinity of peacefulness, beauty, and the calm joy. And I wanted to go in over the fence. I wanted to be part of that group. And my grandparents said,
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Not now, June, not now. Go back, go back. I did not want to go back. And when I went back, when I woke up, I woke up in the hospital and lots of stuff and tubes and things happening to me. And so getting better, I just put that up then. I died, I went to the other side.
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And it was really rough emotionally. You know, as a young person like you, I just wanted to fit in and go out with my friends and get high and go to a party to ponder upon. And I no longer fit in with my group of friends. And, you know, and I was left with a lot of facial scars. At that time, they were really bad and young from their peers, you know, so my life changed a lot.
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Right. So can you kind of elaborate on how this divinity of peacefulness felt? Was it a feeling? Was it a sight? What occurred?
Spiritual versus Religious: A Personal Journey
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What was happening? That's what I'm trying to say.
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Well, the beauty of the site, if you will, the sunny day, but even beyond that, you know, when they talk about bathed in light, bathed in white light, it was very glowing. The green and the grass, the pastures where they were, like they were having a garden party, I guess, all the colors were amplified.
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In the feeling of the greatest joy, and we've all had joy, or most of us have experiences, everything in your body was so relaxed. Everything just felt so good. You were happy.
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That's how it felt, you know, it was divine. This wonderful feeling of love. And that's how it felt. You were very calm, very quiet. Even when I would hear the people on the other side, the relatives of people having with each other, but very quietly.
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just laughing. I've really never experienced, and as I say, I belong to different spiritual groups and go to the Buddhist temple, but never the same as I did then. Bliss. I think a nice word would be bliss. It was blissful. Maybe when I transitioned out of this body... Speaking of
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this spirituality thing. Do you consider yourself more of a spiritual person or a religious person? What do you think? Spiritualists. You know, I've had relatives ask me, my mother asked me, you've fallen away from our religion. It was not fulfilling me. I wanted to find out more. I wanted to know, was there another way to say praise God, if you will?
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Or how could I connect differently? Did I have to go to somebody like a priest to tell me what God is saying? Or could I experience God on my own? Could I communicate with God on my own?
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And so I consider myself more of a spiritual, but he wants, that's fine. If it brings them joy, gives them peace, but it's not for me to be in an organized religion any longer.
Respectful Client Interactions Across Beliefs
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So how do you actually deal with religious clients? Do you think they're a little bit superstitious or a little bit weary?
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No, no, I respect other people's religion. I have, you know, people of all kinds from all walks of life have come for readings. Let me think if I can explain anybody I came, you know, of all different kinds of religions. And I treat them with the same respect that I would treat anybody that was looking for some kind of insights.
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You know, I believe that we have these insights on our own, but it's like, you know, when you know what to do, but you go ask your, I always say, a couple of your friends who tell you what you already know. Well, that's how I look at going for a reading. You know, you know what's best for you, but sometimes you have to hear it from somebody else.
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Especially someone who doesn't know you. So what kind of motivated you to just be reading specifically?
Psychic Readings and Intuition Development
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Well, I was cured after my accident and how I began to know things. Like we could call it a deja vu. This is before you knew who was calling you. You just had to pick up the phone to find out. I would know who's calling me. I would know who I was going to see on the street. I could look at somebody and know something personal about them.
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And then if I was like, well, how do you know? I would know things. And so I was curious and wanted to find out how did I know this? Before my accident, I went for a card reading because all the girls were going, you know, and the woman told me you're going to be in a car accident. And this was about six months before the accident. There's going to be two men at your side. You're going to have to choose. Well, I was dating one guy, I guess, going out. And
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I went out with another guy who I got, how did she know this? And those were the playing decks, ordinary playing deck of cards that she was reading. So I became very curious. How did this happen? How did she know I would have an accident? And other things that she had said. But those are the main, that's the main one I remember. So that's how I got into, I didn't know what the Tarot cards were, but I saw a class being offered.
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And I thought, well, it's set the tarot cards, what are those? So I went to that and that's how I got involved in the whole tarot cards and finding out, you know, how do they know things about people? So I began to study them and I'm still studying, I'm studying the Kabbalah and the tarot relationship now. What are some of the most interesting readings you've done? Oh my God, I've done so many readings for so many different people. I once read for the, back for the,
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secretary to the mayor of San Francisco. And I could say, right, it's private. It's like going to a therapist or a religious leader. You're a religious leader. You can't tell anybody. That was an interesting reading. I mean, he was making financial decisions for the city of San Francisco. And so that was interesting. I don't know if I had told you, but I worked with the police on some murder cases and a missing child case.
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It's not something that I enjoyed at all because it's very difficult. For one thing, it's very difficult working with other suspicious of you to begin with. And it just is very difficult to have spiritual experiences like spirit coming to talk to you, especially if it was a murder victim and you had to give information to the police.
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You're technically a psychic detective in a way, right? I've had so many different readings. Go ahead. With that, with those cases,
Notable Cases: Missing Persons and Crime Solving
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yes. I've had the police call me when there's been thefts, a missing child. I was so happy to be able to reunite that child with his mother. The father, who unfortunately was a schizophrenic, had taken the child. And I was able to find that child by location, which
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I can't guarantee, I never guarantee anybody anything. I know you're the real thing. Let me do the best I can. How do you deal with other people that make your job a little bit harder that maybe pretends that, you know? I had a guy that would score me on, well, that was good there. You batted right. I got to first base. Let's see if you can get me to second. I'm like, oh, Jesus. Well, you know, when I began, I had a, when I was younger, I had, I had to have people believe in me.
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And as I got older, I was like, whatever, don't come for a reading. I've had people get up and leave. I've told people to leave. The way I look at it, I began to respect what I had, this particular ability. I know people call it a gift, and it is a gift, meaning I got to meet people throughout the whole world. I had people
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bring me places to read for them and in that in itself and help more than anything I got to help people that were in difficult places I've had people write to me thank you I felt that my life was over you really helped me like that so when I came across people that didn't believe Iceland was like great don't make an appointment I don't need to read for you I get a little I'm a little sassy I've been told
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And so I just said, well, whatever. I've had people make fun of me in front of me as though talking to another person saying, get this one. And I don't come from that neighborhood background where you disrespect people easily and just do it. And I would tell them. I would just speak up.
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You don't have to come. I'm not making fun of you. Why are you making fun of me? But yes, I've gone the long way. I know you have your skills, but building a business is an entirely different story for everyone.
Balancing Business with Spiritual Mission
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How is it like transitioning your skills into a money-making system? Well, to begin with, as I said, I never advertised for reading, ever. When I would do a reading,
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I still believe it was something that God wanted me to do. And I still use the word God, the all intelligence, but God is an easy word, three letters you can say it. And I believe that this was something I should give to other people.
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And so I would hold jobs for the first X amount of times doing this all the way up until about 1990 something. So you figure 1975 was my first paying clients and I held jobs because I thought, well, I'll do this, but I should really have a regular job. My jobs were never all that regular. And so
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I didn't advertise. People would tell other people about me. And even that's how I got to work with the police. It was all word of mouth. But for my classes, I did, there was no internet. You couldn't go on there. Come to me like that. And so it turned into business. What do you charge people? I was never very good at that money thing. And I would read, some readers were charging people $400 or $500, and I'd pay that. Normal blue collar.
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But I learned, well, if I'm going to do this and be available to people and still raise a son, I was a single parent, keep a roof over her head, I had to charge something. So money was not my motivator, but I certainly had to move into the business world. I did have to get a business license if I was going to go downtown to the corporate world and I had to pay taxes and things like that.
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You made it work. Give it to Caesar. Give it to God what is not. You made it work. So can you kind of tell us a little bit about your books now? What are your books about? Are you trying to teach people with your books or it's more of an autobiography? Well, I have four books, two are fiction and two are nonfiction. So my first book was called, well, that's how to get out of a psychic reading. What is it all about?
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I wrote that because a friend of mine said, if you write it, I'll publish it and such. And I took all the questions that people would ask me, how do you read? Why do you use it? Everything anybody asked me, what kinds of questions do I ask? How long is the reading? What should I pay? Professional psychic reading as alternative counseling, which is kind of curious because I used to read for a lot of therapists come to me.
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So that was part of why I named it alternative counseling. And that was to teach people, as you said.
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You know, I always have a great desire to give something back. If my life was a bit better because I did this, I would like you to have a better life, a more fulfilling life, more successful. People use the word success. I don't use that for fulfilling. And so that's my first book. My second book is a fiction book, and it is a little bit of autobiography, but set in a fictional framework. I made a little story around it.
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and it is about a psychic child and how difficult it is to be a psychic living in society and especially living
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The reviews by many people reviewed this book and read it. People would relate to that and say, I know how hard that was because it was hard for me too. So the third book I wrote was another fiction book. And I wrote that not to teach anybody anything because an actor down in LA asked me to write a book for her or asked me to write a screenplay for her, which I was doing. And then my sister, my best friend,
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passed on, died suddenly. So I stopped writing it. The time I came back, she had already moved on. That's the way they are down there, I've learned. And so that's how I wrote my third fiction. And then when I wrote the last book, How to Talk with Spirits, I wrote that because a friend of mine said his angel came to him and said, I should write this book. Several times I said, no, I'm not writing another book. It's not just writing a book, it's marketing a book.
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is really hard. Oh, you're self-published. Yes. Yeah. And I'm glad I am. And I'm really glad I am. And I tell writers, if you're going to, you know, be self-published, you don't have to jump through a lot of hopes, agents, the guts to be self-published.
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and you have the motivation to be, because you got to work really hard, even people that are published, even well-known authors, have to get out and market themselves. And this because I went to a lot of writer's circles, belonged to people, and they said, just because you're published by a publishing house, there are even authors now that have been published for years that are going to be self, that are going to be in self-published.
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So there's a lot more control over being self-published and I'm really glad that that I am.
June Ahern’s Life Story: From Books to Film
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And the fourth book I put out and How to Talk of Spirits and it has taken me along a whole different road than I ever thought about going down on Amazon Prime.
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It's on AsianAmerican.com. They're a screenwriter, producer, a screenwriter in LA who's already had movies out, won some awards for indies that will be made based upon my life and murdered my publisher, to my agent, to me. He came directly to me.
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That's where my life has gone. If I could share, that's what I'm doing. Yeah. So I think the next thing I want to ask you is that how is it like getting your first customers in the door?
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I know you weren't like advertising yourself, but you had to have some way of actually bringing people to your front doorstep, you know? My first customers were three sisters. Twins and their younger sister were a friend of a friend of mine. So I had all my people I was trying, you know, I would read for everybody, friends, sisters, brothers, anybody who came to me, I would read for them because I had to learn. And she said,
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I have three friends that want to come and get a reading from you and they're going to pay you five dollars. I go, they're going to pay me five dollars each? Wow. Okay.
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And so they came and I did it at my kitchen table to, you know, they waited in the living room and then they would come in one or the other. And so they went out and they told their friends and they came and paid me $5 and the neighbors are tired, right? So I don't really know. But anyway, they came and they told their friends and that's how it happened.
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People just started showing up and coming to me. So what kind of motivated you to kind of move on to, you know, more of the mainstream stuff? Like the TV shows, YouTube channels? Was it more spiritual or was it more business-based?
Venturing into Media: TV and YouTube
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I began teaching because people said, oh, it was opportunities. That's what it was.
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Usually I listen to the advice of some close friends, you know, like, oh, get in touch with people are talking was a television program in the 80s.
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Or someone would hear from me and say, well, I do, like you, I do a radio show. They used to have little radio shows. Would you come and be on my radio show? The Haunted Bay Ying is passed on. And then when she got involved with filming Paranormal, start up at state college, it was a project for her. And she wanted to do something. They wanted to do the Zodiac. So she said, I'm contacting you because I know you're the real deal. Would you like to come and do this investigation with me? I said, well, I won't do the Zodiac.
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because that's very intense, but I did something else. She found another place. You know, I didn't get paid for any of this. I went out of an interest. I still don't get paid for this, you know, to do the paranormal. And I'm not asking them. I love the group, but I enjoy what I'm doing, and it's interesting to me. And so I would go out.
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and meet them, meet Ying and Cody and Matt and all of the ones involved there. And they would be filmed. So I didn't do it out of a business. I did it out of interest. I volunteer. Career of this has started out as an intern. I volunteer. I wanted to go. I didn't want to charge people a lot of money like the other readers. I started out like that. I did it because it's my interest and it is part of my spiritual growth, very much
Paranormal Investigations: Spirits and Entities
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so.
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So working with this paranormal team, you're a lot more, um, you have a skill set in theory as well. So, you know, also about the spirits outside that are humans either.
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Can you kind of elaborate on how you would work with them? Yeah, well, some are really easy to work with and some are not. Well, the crew is really good. They give me free reign. The last logical question is, Matt Abaya was on the filming crew. He has his own movie out now.
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And he didn't really believe in it, but he came along. He eventually, we did enough ghost investigations that he turned around and said, wow, there's really something to this. I divide just for the sense of clarity. Spirit is you and I. And when we pass on, our spirit doesn't, you know, our spirit is our spirit of who we are.
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And then the ones that stay around, I call them ghosts, but they truly are spirits. And the ghosts stay around because they're just too attached to their life. Maybe they had a violent death. Usually that's often what it is. Maybe they have three of them are willing to talk.
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be seen. Some are hide and seek, you have to kind of find them. But usually when someone like me comes along, and they're talking to me, they're like, oh, wow, somebody could hear us. And we can talk to them. So I asked them what they want. Why are you still hanging around us when I say, you know, I read this, everybody says, oh, they should pass on to the other side, send them to the light. Well, I began to learn there's some there's some ghosts that don't want to go to the other light sheets.
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that are not nice entities. They are not here to do any kind thing to humans. You know, you have the victim ghost, I was killed. I want everybody to know I was hung and I shouldn't have been. And then you have entities, and they are dark. Sometimes there's shadow entities. Yeah, so non-humans, if you are. Sometimes they are up to no good for the living.
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And yeah, well, yeah, yeah, some have been maybe human and then there are non human entities and they will want to invade a living being. So I don't like the idea that people think it's a gay, it's not a gay and you should know what you're doing.
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So I do pick and choose like there's some places that I don't want to go like as I said to the zodiac circle where horrible things happen to people and they a lot of blood and crying so I will I've turned the the haunted bay down a few times that I don't want to go to certain places at all so
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I kind of want to keep it cheery and happy, like the happy medium. Though I did get caught in the last place they took me and I told Ying. I said, I told you I didn't want to go to this place. I can't talk about it because it hasn't come out yet on video.
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but it was horrible and I almost fainted. They almost had to carry me out of the room. It's quite interesting you know you get these people that say I don't believe in any of this stuff and then the minute you tell them if they want to go to a haunted house they're like oh no no I wouldn't do that you know yeah yeah they're like oh yeah well people make it up there are some I can't stay they're giving they're giving me those bad names
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is the way I look at it, you know. But yeah, people tell me that, you know, I don't believe in that stuff and what they want me to do is prove it to me.
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and i'm like well you go to one of these spaces i go to and you tell me how you feel well you know that that's also the other philosophy and you attract what you believe you know and a lot of times these people that you know they don't believe say at the end when you're leaving this body you're leaving this life there's been more people that cry out oh god oh god saved me and they are atheist and so it's hard
Empowering Clients Through Psychic Guidance
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And I think everybody should find their own beliefs. I don't like pushing. I don't like anybody pushing stuff on me. But like I said, you know, when Matt and I did the differentiation building at San Francisco, the building, he was not a believer. And when I, and his grandfathers, I said, are you grandfathers both in the military, whatever message I gave him? And he said, how do you know that? I said, well, Matt, why are you filming me?
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If you don't believe, begin to say, wow, there's something to this. Experience it for yourself. That's what I tell people. Do it yourself. How do you think most people would do it themselves? Do it yourself. Find out for yourself. Don't do it because I told you.
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I believe it was Buddhists that even Buddha that even don't, you know, don't believe in the philosophy of other people. Don't follow their teachings. Find out for yourself. And that's the experience it because you can, you can experience it if you keep an open mind. Yeah. So another thing is this. I've been thinking, how do you actually bring in a positive message to the psychic community? What do you think your contribution is?
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I want readers to remember that that's exactly what you are. You are a reader of that person's unconscious mind or acoustic records, everything about their past life, their history. Everything's put up there in these little, we'll look at it and we'll think about Golden Doors with little records on it. You are not the greatest person.
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you are not the one that is going to change this person's life that person has to be willing to change their own life that's all you are is to give them information you personally i don't believe you should answer any or involve yourself in any questions that say when am i going to die
00:28:39
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You do not want to string people along. No one should come for a reading really within a year's time, maybe two years' time. People that encourage people to come back for readings, no. Readers do not have a power that you, readers should empower their clients to think and make decisions based on what the reader is picking up. You should empower the person.
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That's my message of like it says. Oh, yeah. Well, I'm able to do this and that. No, you're just an instrument You're an instrument. That's what you are and that's why you should be humble. That's the gift So seems like there's a little bit of back and forth between which philosophy is better, you know one thinks they're in control the other sees them more as
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the instrument. And which side do you think will win in the end with that? There are going to be people, there are always going to be people that want someone else to tell them what to do. That's life. As Colbert, Robert Colbert said, you know, they're sheeples.
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And I've had people come to me that, oh, June, tell me, should I? And I'm like, whoa, wait a minute, let's look at it all. I believe that there will be always people going to readers to tell them what to do, and they will praise the reader. I've heard the praises.
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oh my god they're the best you want to go to them and then there will be readers who like myself says can i lead somebody to their own awareness can i enlighten them when i i told my mother i was probably in my 30s by then i said i don't want to read anymore and my whole reputation was built on how accurate i was i mean people were like oh she's the best and and i i said i would rather
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spiritually enlightened people, because my own practice was taking me to a greater place of that kind of thinking. And so I asked you if you don't read the other way. I said, well, that's the gamble I'm going to have to take. And I took the gamble and I attracted really interesting people that truly wanted to grow within their own self.
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the spirit of the self, I still got the other people. I got the ones that still wanted that, but I handled it differently. When they would say, should I get in this relationship? And I said, well, here's what the relationship could give you. Here's how you want to heal something of your own thoughts in order that you work this relationship more fulfillment.
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And they're like, but should I? And I said, I can't answer that for you. And so that person wouldn't come back, right? Well, there you go. There were always, I had a list, people were waiting two and three months to see me. So it was okay for me to let go of somebody and attract, as you said, attract the right person for me. And it worked, it worked, it worked for a lot of years. And speaking of that, why do you think, so most of your clients generally
00:31:49
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What do your clients really want from you? Because I don't think we've elaborated on that yet. So the clients that I had toward the more ending than the beginning of my profession transitioned as I transitioned into other ways of reading. What my clients want now, because they know I'm not going to tell them whether
00:32:12
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So what they're looking for is to understand their own ability to attract what they want in life. I mean, I still do metaphysical coaching. I got out of the life coaching, you know, corporate people and such like that. I do metaphysical coaching where I continue to teach people how to use attraction, how to use their own life, how to understand what is involved with the law of attraction, you know, the hermetic principles,
00:32:40
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really truly fulfill their own self. As you know, why are we here on planet Earth? What are we supposed to do? How can we be a better person and then share it with other not for your own gain, you know, for the purpose of your, you're the greatest, you know, he who dies with the most toys wins or something. Some guy said that to me and I go, Well, you're dead, you're dead. Who cares what toys you have. And I have
00:33:07
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great clients that have fulfilled their life in ways they only had hoped for or they didn't think was available to them. Just like me. I didn't know my life was going to be like this. I had no idea I'd write books. I had no idea there would be a movie made about me. None of that was on my little list of, my thing was, I hope I could make the mortgage and get my son up into adulthood.
Family Acceptance of Psychic Career
00:33:34
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I was kind of simple.
00:33:36
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How does your family... I'll get into your family now. How does your family think about your whole lifestyle? In the beginning, it was difficult. As I said, we're a pretty religious family. We're quite religious. It's really hard. My mother was an extremely sweet, loving woman. Whatever her kids did, and there were some bad kids. There were eight of us. Some went off to prison and some went off to...
00:34:03
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And so she would accept whatever we were doing, as long as she kept saying, but do you still believe in Jesus? Do you still believe in God? And I would say, yeah, Mom, I do. It's just different. But my father, oh my God. And I have another brother. I call him a born-again Catholic. He did his time in prison, so he got out and he became the born again, right? And they were calling me, you must be working for the devil. The devil's got a hold of you.
00:34:29
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My, my sisters, my sisters were cool. They're like, Oh, don't give me reading. Give me reading. You know, they thought it was fun and funny. So that was good. It took a while.
00:34:41
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for my father to come around. He came around before my brother because he said to me, and this was a couple of years before he died, he said, I heard you do past life stuff. Would you do that for me? And my father was a very hard man. He was a typical old country father. I mean, he ruled with an iron fist. Back in those days, you could beat your kids and nobody called the cops.
00:35:05
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You know, he thought he was doing the right thing. And so once I did that, and then he gave me Raymond Moody, Dr. Raymond Moody's book on life after life, which I had not known. So he acknowledged that he believed I did go to the other side and I did have something. My brother took, it wasn't until the last few years that my brother, who's a very strict, strict Catholic, that he read my book, How to Read with Spirits, and he said to me,
00:35:32
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June, I'm sorry. I had no idea. The rest of my family supported me. And some of my sisters, of course, have the psychic abilities I have. My mother had had psychic abilities, but she didn't speak about it openly until later. And so it evolved over time. It evolved over time how they began to accept me. To my mother, as long as I kept believing in God and Jesus and Our Lady, I was OK. Yeah.
00:36:01
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It was hard. It was hard. It was sad for me to be rejected, you know, in many ways. We're a big family, like I said, an immigrant family. And immigrant families really stick together, I think, sometimes more than most families. Right. And what would you consider your power? Probably too much family, isn't it? Oh, God. Your power, is it more clairvoyance, maybe mediumship?
00:36:26
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Yes, in the beginning it was clear buoyant. Correct. In the beginning it was clear buoyant and then it was somewhat clear audio. Certainly not as much clear sensing, but in time it evolved over to a sense of knowing. I have to call it just knowing now. I still do get images. I do hear messages. Some of those messages translate into my own voice.
00:36:53
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Some are clearly not my own voice at all. Sometimes the language is more like what we would call old English, and I have to bring it into this way of speaking. So I would translate to be able to talk to a client. It really has evolved to the place of knowing. That's how I look at it. When I speak with spirits, it is more clear audio. And so I speak to ghost or spirit. I'm asking them
00:37:21
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I don't always see what they look like completely. I may see a portion of them. So I cannot describe them fully. I may describe them in parts like they have certain eye color or they're big or they're small like that. So all parts of it.
00:37:38
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clear sense is probably, you know, my least forte, my least power.
Managing Empathic Abilities
00:37:45
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And I think it's a good thing. I've worked with clear sensing people empaths now that speak more about empath and they have the greatest problems of maybe becoming ill.
00:37:56
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or attracting an attachment of a ghost or a low grade entity. So I really work with clear, sentient people to be less clear, sentient and maybe clear audio or clear voice. Good question. Thank you. So have you ever had to work in teams with other people to handle big issues? Yes, absolutely.
00:38:18
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And I like it. I've actually solicited other psychics to work with me and some say no and some say yes. Especially when I worked on the murder, one particular murder case, actually two, I did solicit some other psychics I knew and I did pass by my staff. Well, first I asked them for theirs and then we kind of compared notes. And then since I was working directly with the police, I would take what we both said and I would try to make it reasonable and give it to them.
00:38:49
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uh the paranormal we've done a few videos that i asked yin i said could we ask the psychic to you know this other medium could we ask that medium to come and work with with me because i don't know did i really pick it up or is it my imagination i still question myself
00:39:05
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I like proof. I don't like anything given to me before. Even readings, I would say to people that, you know, people want to give you the, tell me, I don't want anything about you other than your coming, your name and your coming. And then, then I can find out, am I really on the right track? But yes, to your question, I enjoy it. I'd like to do more like that.
00:39:25
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I actually asked a recent recently asked a medium to come with me on this particular investigation that I'm doing privately. I'm doing a private investigation. Right. I asked. I said, I'd like to bring another medium with me. I don't need. But I really don't. Right.
00:39:43
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So another thing I found pretty funny is that I noticed a lot of times psychics would be like, tell me about
Ensuring Genuine Readings and Feedback
00:39:49
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yourself. And they would use that extra information to kind of fish out more answers. But what you do is you really just get everything from what you do. Yeah, it's, for lack of a better word, it's kind of a fun game for me.
00:40:04
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I want to know how much I know. I want to do it myself. I mean, I've had people say, oh, you're wrong. If someone really thinks I'm wrong, I don't ever charge them. I just send them on their way. But I don't give them much more of my time. To me, my time's too precious. Yes, there are psychics like that. Some psychics will ask you for your birthday because they do work off of the birthday. That's reasonable.
00:40:28
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I believe if a person is saying they are psychic and you're going to them, they should be able to pick up something personal about you, whether it be a name, whether it be a place, whether it be a time of your history, like I often say to people, at the age of 10, I see that you really felt you had to take over the family life because something was wrong. They go, yeah, that's when my parents divorced, like that.
00:40:54
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I do to me, we're not genuine. Even the investigations that I do with Ying, the haunted bay, I tell her, invite me to go, say it's a building that I want you to go to. It's been known to be haunted.
00:41:11
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It's in another county. Would you drive there? Because I hate driving at night now. But don't tell me anything. Don't give me the address. Don't tell me the name of the building, if it's a well-known building. Let me just come there. I don't want any of this psychic mind to know something.
00:41:28
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it pisses me off when someone says something and i've already picked it up want to tell them now i feel like why tell them you know they already told me so i like not knowing and if i need to know something i'll ask you and usually i'll say i'm picking this up does that is that right and the person who says yes or no if they say yes we go on if they go
00:41:47
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Well, you're kind of off. You're not really right. I say, what I say to them, do you want me to go on with the reading or not? I'm pretty, I guess that's a little blunt, but that's, you know, do you want me to do it or not? It's up to you.
00:42:00
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I don't charge. So you don't charge them either? Okay, bye. Thank you. So you are, I don't charge if a person, if I tell a person something in the first say five, 10 minutes, I give them what I pick it up and they say, no, then I don't continue with the reading. They say, no, that's not right. Then I say, well, why go on with the reading? I don't charge them. No, I do not charge them. It didn't feel ethical to me.
00:42:20
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to take money from somebody for a service that I was not able to provide in the first five or ten minutes. I won't go on. I won't give them any more of my time. I do agree. I think that's fair, don't you? So what types of situations would something like that not work? Would it be more of a spiritual thing within them or is it more on your end? What do you think it is? Well, it could be both. It could be I'm not the right reader for them.
00:42:44
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you know, they could go to another reader. I've had somebody say before after a reading, she said, Yeah, it was okay. But could you recommend someone else? At first, I was like, what? I got over I got over my ego. I said, Yeah, actually, I do. I like this woman. I go to her myself. Now I've turned my clients I turn them over to a few other readers that I've had readings with. So I don't mind. So what happens is I begin to tell you I meditate before you come.
00:43:11
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I've already got all this information. And so when you sit down, I start right away. I go, okay, I'm picking up, I'm picking up that you are good with your hands, but lately you've been feeling really kind of clumsy, like you can't get things done. And I begin to tell them, and if the person says, how will I know if your information is correct? I said, you'll either know it mentally because you resonate with it,
00:43:36
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or you just feel it. You're just feeling in your heart. And then if the person says, well, you're a nice lady, but I don't think you're right. And I don't even question them. I say, well, it's up to you. I mean, it's up to you. You want me to go on. You don't want me to go on. Sometimes people are very linear.
00:43:55
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They need you to tell them exactly. What is that person's name? How does that person look? What is my job going to be like? Oh, that's not my job. Well, I've had people actually, and this is true, contact me 5, 10, 15 years later. This is the truth that said to me, when I came for reading, I thought you were really no good or you were really off or whatever. But everything you said is exactly what happened in my life. But it took 10 years.
00:44:24
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And I say, well, you know, if it took you that long to get it together, well, there you go. You know, I can't take you out and tell you when it will happen. So how do I, you know, that's how you know, you just know. I've gone to Renee's before where I've sat down and went, oh my God, I wish I was out of here. The person was so off. And I didn't lie, I just said the person, I don't think you're picking me up right. And that can happen. It could be both. It could be the client.
00:44:52
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and it could be the reader. So here's another thing. When you say you need information, right? What's the little bit of information that you actually need usually when you're working with clients? So you said birthday. What else? Is that it? Sometimes I might take the birthday. Usually I ask because I don't know the terminology, but I do do some numerology. You know what? I actually don't want anything other than their name.
00:45:22
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just make your appointment. Now I do tell people before I give an appointment, now I can email it back in the olden days I had to spend time on the phone. And thank God for emails like that. I tell people how I read, listen to reading and what I expect for them, meaning don't ask me if you'll fall in love. I don't know.
00:45:43
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But you can ask me, what will I do to attract to me someone like a life partner? That I will answer. So before anybody even comes to me, they know how I work. But I don't want anything other than, well, I don't do readings anymore, but that was how I was doing them. Just make an appointment. Do you agree to my terms? That's what I say. I do have a cancellation policy. I finally got that. Just don't care right away.
00:46:10
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That's not working. So I had to throw, you know, don't call me up and say, you know, it's not a good day for me. I'm like, well, I put this day aside for you. So I did, I started taking deposits. Cancellation meaning if you give me the 48 hours, I just return your money. But keep somebody's money, you know. Anyway, so that's that.
00:46:32
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so yeah you definitely did and i think the final thing i want to ask you is um what are some remarks you have to give to anybody listening right now remarks to to somebody that what what remarks you have to give to anybody regarding what anybody that's listening right now about what you do what your message is as a psychic like do you have any you know suggestions about how to reach their own psychic spiritual level i mean
Advice for Seeking Honest Psychic Readings
00:46:59
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Oh yeah, I have a lot of suggestions of that. Come to my monthly Zoom talks and we'll go through a lot of that. What I suggest to people is be open to your own psychic mind. If you aren't going to find a psychic, just don't go by what they charge that they're any better than a psychic that may charge, you know,
00:47:21
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I mean, they have to charge something because that's their time. They could charge $100, you know, maybe $150, but you don't need to go to a $500 psychic. They're not going to give you any more information. You could even go to a fair and meet a great psychic. Why do you go to a
00:47:37
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give the psychic should give you information to set you on a better course of life. They should not be warning you about death or evil people or I can light a candle and you know give me your money and all that bad thing. Psychics are really a good part. I've I've read for people that took their readings to their therapist and went through and did some healing around a certain thing. I've read medically for people trust
00:48:07
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And you trust that psychic because they do really do what I'm doing today, answer your questions. They should not shy away from your questions. They should direct you and to fulfill your life better and help you grow your psychic mind. We all have a psychic mind. I love teaching people and they love learning it, you know.
00:48:30
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Wow, I can do this on my own. And then you serve humanity. You serve other people with your psychic abilities to make their life better. That's my message to people that we need to grow more psychically into our own spirit because spiritual people use their intuition and psychic much more than people that are not following a spiritual path. I think that's
Conclusion: Thanking June Ahern and Audience
00:48:54
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all. All right. Thank you again.
00:48:56
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Thank you for your questions. You asked really, really direct questions. We're going to tune out now. Thank you all for listening. This is the show. Thank you for listening to the Jimbo Paris show.