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This week the boys are talking Wrestlemania 39, The Collective and more of the nonsense you know and love!
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Vince McMahon's Return and Speculations
00:00:35
Speaker
Hey everybody, welcome to another episode of Predetermined, a Pro Wrestling Hangout. I'm your host, Garrett Callender. And with me, as always, Chris Migs and Jimmy Fax. Uh, and, and of course in our hearts, Vince McMahon's mustache. Um, cause he, he looked at us and he said to everyone, to everyone who's a wrestling fan, I have three words for you. Eat it. Yeah. And it is his mustache.
00:01:06
Speaker
And we ate it. We ate it. Yeah. So let's let's just start with that. So like Vince is back fully. Right. I mean, like for sure. Like there's no way you can watch that mania and be like, no, Vince had nothing to do with this. I have a theory actually about this, about the mustache in particular, which is that for the past several months, the three of us have been making jokes.
00:01:32
Speaker
about what I thought would, maybe what I thought were jokes about Vince McMahon consuming pure cut Colombian cocaine through his penis. Now I thought, hey, it's a funny image. It's a funny idea. But when you see that man with that mustache go on national television. And the hair. And the hair. The dyed hair I think is actually so much worse, right? The whole combo.
00:02:01
Speaker
Because a mustache can be like, oh, he grew a mustache. But it's like, we know what you look like, Vince. This dye job isn't like, you're a very public figure. We are aware that your hair has gone gray a very long time ago. But again, if you had to describe someone who snorted cocaine through their penis hole,
00:02:21
Speaker
That's what you'd see. Exactly. There's no way that anyone would have the confidence to come out like that had they not been snorting cocaine through their penis hole. It's the only it's the only logical answer. So I think it's just proof that we we weren't making jokes. We were just telling truth. I mean, he really does look like a guy who is trying to not get recognized at a jerk off theater. And but I'm trying to think like, I mean, he's for real, like for
00:02:50
Speaker
anyone who grew up in the 90s watching wrestling, he's one of the most recognizable television characters of all time. Like that would be like if I'm trying, who is even, I don't know, fucking Walter White shows up in the jerk off theater. Like if, if Cranston shows up with a shaved head trying to not look like it's like, Oh, it's
00:03:12
Speaker
He just rubs oil on top of the shaved head. And his hair was salt and pepper gray when we were children. Right? Right. He's like 90, right? Isn't he like pushing 90? Isn't he 80 something? He's 106. He's 106 years old. No quads. He's running on two metal legs. I would love to see him do the hair like Gary Oldman in Bram Stoker's Dracula and just go full like, yep, I'm undead.
00:03:40
Speaker
He's eventually just a powdered wig, man. Yeah, just you're right. So did you notice in all the stuff about WWE being sold to Endeavor, they mentioned how he has a two year contract. That's what's been listed, right? A two year contract to kind of, you know, be the chairman of WWE or whatever his run WWE still, essentially.
00:04:02
Speaker
And I'm thinking that all parties agreed on that two years because he's already got a plan that two years he's done. His retirement is he's just buying every asset of every type that Rob Black owns. He's always won WWF New York.
00:04:25
Speaker
Right, he's always wanting to get into the restaurant business. American cheeseburger is his next big thing. The problem is we started too big. Times Square, too difficult to manage. Syracuse, Syracuse. I realize I haven't made a lot of mistakes, but one is China made a lot of money in porn and I didn't get a cent of it.
00:04:52
Speaker
If I just had my own porn company, I could have made so much more money off these people. At some point, they're going to have a MAGA butcher going up against a mystery opponent. Fucking Roman Reigns walks through there. Just fucking devastates American cheeseburger. Everyone in there is going to cry. And then on his way out, of course, he gives the most devastating Superman punch to Dilfoy. And a total shoot one. It's like the first ever
00:05:22
Speaker
Shoot running punch. It's gonna be a very similar punch to the one that Snoop Dogg gave the Miz. Jesus Christ. He called a fucking audible and walked in and punched the Miz in the face. I do really like this scenario here with Robin because I think we can get to Shane McMahon versus Schlack. And that's what I want for my professional wrestling.
00:05:53
Speaker
deep down in my soul. There's adrenaline in my soul. Or there was. And Vince probably knows very little about international wrestling. So he would definitely call his major event of his XPW, he would call triple mania. But it would be because of triple X, because it would just be fucking, his schlack would fight chain and then they would both just fuck people in the ring.
00:06:19
Speaker
He goes to Saudi with it, and he's like, you know what the Saudis would like? To see this fucking maniac just eviscerate my son in a cage.
00:06:34
Speaker
That would be great if like the crown princes, his son is like super into current indie wrestling. That's like really hardcore and death matches. And then like 20 years from now, the big Saudi shows are like, they're bringing like a 60 year old Nick Gage out there in front of 80,000 people in Jeddah. Well, do you think that if the crown princess son
00:06:57
Speaker
was this like, there's gotta be blood. We paid you $15 billion or whatever the fuck that they would bring in a schlack. It's like, well, maybe it's an actual lights out match and it doesn't air on peacock. But, you know, there's gotta be a little blood. I don't know if schlacks tattoos are allowed in Saudi Arabia. It might have to be MAGA butcher. I'll go so far as to say, I'd be really surprised if legally speaking schlacks allowed to leave the country.
00:07:28
Speaker
So I have a question here. I have a question, which is we all know from a episode a few weeks ago that Bax, you are a shareholder in WWE.
WrestleMania Reactions and WWE Booking Strategies
00:07:36
Speaker
And I just want to know if you've done the math today on this merger. Do you now have the ability to pay hush money like a pro? Yeah, are you fucking rich now? I mean, like I'm doing OK. So I'm doing OK.
00:07:53
Speaker
I'll definitely make, make some shekels on this deal. Although the endeavor stock is down today with this news. Um, it might go up when they see the main event of raw tonight. Chris was just telling me what that is. What's that? I have it's Brock Lesnar and Cody against Roman and solo Roman. Oh, and solos. Okay. It'll be fine. I feel like your brain processed that too fast. Like Brock Lesnar is tag teaming with Cody Rhodes facts.
00:08:23
Speaker
I mean, all of it is, so that would have been more surreal if Cody didn't, what happened to Cody last night wasn't exactly what I thought was gonna happen to Cody, which is just, let's build him up and then, nope, make a big thing if he's gonna finish the story and he sure isn't. And we're not even gonna have a satisfying, like even if he had just lost cleanly and had like a Pyrrhic victory of standing up to Roman, but no, it was just a shitty match
00:08:52
Speaker
I mean, it was an OK match with a stupid, shitty, shitty thing. One of the I would say the worst finish of a main event WrestleMania history, possibly. I mean, because even with the Miz and Cena, the Rock was there and, you know, the Rock back in, what was that, 2006, something like that, 2007.
00:09:13
Speaker
11, whatever. And but still seeing the rock and then setting that up for him and Cena, you were kind of like, OK, that sucks. There's a DQ finishing that the miss is walking with the title. But, you know, we're going to get the Rock versus John Cena. That's pretty cool. I will say when I was thinking about this today. And just in case anything batshit insane happens, we were recording this on Monday this week, just while Raw is happening, just in case like J. White just shows up at the end right after we finished something.
00:09:44
Speaker
So I was thinking about this today and, um, really honestly shame on us for thinking anything else was going to happen. So I'm wearing a t-shirt today. Um, I just panned down to my friends. See it's for survivor series 2001 and I'm not just wearing it because it's a sweet shirt from our friends at wrestle buds, but.
00:10:05
Speaker
It's because was there any fucking way that the AEW guy was gonna beat the WWE guy at WrestleMania? This is fucking Triple H and Vince McMahon, right?
00:10:21
Speaker
is that they made us think that it might happen. And we fucking believed it like a bunch of dumb pieces of shit. I mean, I almost feel like they made the last two matches of Night 1 so good that it kind of was like, oh my God, this is like a great WrestleMania. We're actually getting it. And what would be the perfect finish on an all time great WrestleMania and then just Night 2 shit all over it.
00:10:48
Speaker
But I do need to go back to something Chris said, is that if by the time listeners are listening to this, they know what happened on Raw and J. White does show up, I'm going to say right here that if J. White showed up, he almost certainly lost to Austin Theory. Because there's no way the new Japan guy
00:11:11
Speaker
I mean, also, by the way, where were Nakamura and AJ Styles? Are they still in WWE? Are they going to be on Dynamite this week? What's going on there? Styles is hurt at the moment. OK. I think he should be back in the not crazy distant future. Nakamura is just surfing. I think he's just he was having dinner with Muda. He was in L.A. He was I saw a picture of him and Tana brunch. It's cute. What do you think they were ordering?
00:11:35
Speaker
Do you think they went like a West Coast kind of brunch? Or do you think they were at a very serious Japanese restaurant? That's a good question. Tana's kind of in a soup mode right now. Is there a good breakfast soup? Chooin's really hard for him. I'm sure you guys saw the picture of that. I think he's got really soft eggs. Soft eggs. Yeah, maybe some breakfast. Maybe a French onion.
00:12:05
Speaker
Hmm. Yeah. Could be nice. Like a little maybe like a little green chili soup, a little green chili chicken soup. That's the other thing I was thinking was they go you go Mexican, right? You do maybe like, you know, like a tortilla soup kind of thing without the tortilla frittata at this moment. But it almost seemed like the point like like it was just like, again, by the end of night one, I was riding a high. I was like, wow, that was really good. That exceeded my expectations.
00:12:35
Speaker
And then it felt like by the time you get to the end of the night, too, it was like, oh, the whole point of all of this was just to make the fans upset. I think I can't see what the other because otherwise, like, again, if you're going to have Roman beat Sammy, why not do that at mania? Well, did you? I wanted to eat it. He wanted us to eat it. Three words, three words.
00:13:03
Speaker
Did either of you watch the press conference afterwards? I did not. I watched like a minute of it and I saw like a couple of clips this morning. Anything specific you're hitting on Garrett? So Triple H came out last. And maybe the first question was like, okay, let's just get it out of the way. And somebody asked about Endeavor. He was like, can you talk about it? He's like, no, next question. And eventually he gets to the main event. And the question was worded
00:13:31
Speaker
in a way that I was like, that's ballsy to word it that way to Triple H, even though I don't think the person asking intended it to be an insult. Also, just quickly, Garrett, press conference, so, spinny, said press conference.
00:13:47
Speaker
Which you gotta give him your drink for the show in a little bit. But the person asked Triple H, what was the point of this? Like, was it to drag on the, he phrased it, was it to drag out the Roman story further? And he's like, well, when you say drag out, it makes it seem negative. But here's the thing, when I'm in bed at night,
00:14:10
Speaker
and I can't sleep. I've got these thoughts racing through my head. And I know how the story ends. You guys don't. You just gotta wait and see. But there's no way he knows how the story ends. Vince hasn't told him yet. I just feel so bad for Stephanie at this point. She's like cuddling. They're like cuddling. And he's just like, oh, uh, maybe, uh, you think, uh,
00:14:39
Speaker
that we can get the rock back. She's like, go to bed, Paul. He hasn't had an erection in months. He's like, he's got a whiteboard and at one point he circles the name Seamus and then just like, no, no, no, no, and crosses it out like that's not right.
00:15:02
Speaker
He has a big poster of himself from like 2005 on the wall. And he just has a sticky note on it that just says, make heart better. That's the plan.
00:15:21
Speaker
It's him versus Roman at WrestleMania 50. At that point, Triple H is gonna have his own mustache, a dyed mustache, and a beautiful head of just jet black hair. He'll have a brand new pig heart. It'll be great. It's interesting though, because we were talking at the end, why I said to you guys after it was this, you know, midway through, I'm thinking to myself, you know, we're all, we think we're gonna go to Mania weekend next year. It's in Philly.
00:15:51
Speaker
Love, love me some Billy, lots of indie wrestling. And I was like, Hmm, maybe I'll be at least sort of interested in going to mania. Maybe I, maybe I'll be trying to figure out what kind of tickets we can get. And then the end of that, I was like, no, no.
00:16:08
Speaker
I mean honestly if like Sunday morning when I was still riding that night one high if they were like tickets were just released and you messaged me like facts it's gonna be a thousand dollars for seats but we can get these good seats I got a connection right now I would have been I would have then mode you before the phone call finished
00:16:27
Speaker
Now, and my response to that was, I can't imagine what could be on that card that I would go for free. And I fully intend on being in Philadelphia for mania weekend, but I still don't think I would go for free. What if the main event was Walter versus Roman? Again, I'd want to see Walter versus Brock more. But again, if it was Walter against Roman, because you know Roman's going to win.
00:16:58
Speaker
and probably in a shitty, not clean way. Here's the thing, Fax. Maybe this is the time. Maybe this is what's been keeping Triple H awake for months. Months. How can we rewrite the end of World War II where the Germans win? That's what the fans want.
00:17:23
Speaker
That's EAT, brother. He just ends up, he's like, Mox had a good idea, just, let's steal a Rocky. Which one? Four, but we flip it. We flip it. He's gonna fight that robot from the Rocky movies.
00:17:42
Speaker
Yeah, our friend, our pal, my buddy Paul from Backdoor Barbecue was in the house and he was like, Cody is so over right now at the beginning of the main event. And the afterwards he texts me, he's like, everyone's really sad now.
00:17:58
Speaker
I wish I could have seen your face live. It really bummed me out, because you were so excited. You were so excited. You talked a lot about how Cody's your guy, and you were excited for your guy. I was like, that's going to be a cool moment. Again, I want to be clear, just because it's fucking WWE at this point, right? So I wasn't deeply let down, but there was a moment where I was like, oh, come on. I don't think it was over the top. It was just more of a like,
00:18:28
Speaker
Let's turn this off. Let's. My pal Beth and I watched weird sports afterwards turned on. I don't know. Just like. Fuck this shit. Let's talk about something else. I mean, I also feel like the the actual.
00:18:44
Speaker
I think my biggest disappointment wasn't the code he lost. It was just how shitty the finish was. That was the bigger thing. And I was texting you guys about this in real time. I don't know who that referee was, but it was the worst referee job at a big match I've ever seen in my life.
00:19:01
Speaker
Cause he kept every time Cody was going for pin Paul, even early in the match, it would go one, two, and he would stop his hand. He would never even go for three. And then when Roman would do it, he would go one, two, and he would kind of get like, he was still bad, but he would go a little further. And I'm like, Hmm, well that's kind of telling that he's way more conservative with an accidental three count when Cody's going for the pin. So like five minutes into the match, I was like, Oh, so Roman's winning.
00:19:25
Speaker
Um, cause the ref has given this away. Oh yeah. Cause I was literally, I was, I was wearing a Cody shirt and old American nightmare shirt. I was with my buddy. He was wearing a Roman shirt that he also, neither one of us bought these shirts. He was actually wearing a shield shirt just to give you the vintage of how deep back we had to go for a WrestleMania relevant attire. And then like, and he, he legitimately was like, no, Roman's going to win going into it. I'm like, really? Like, I don't, I don't know about that.
00:19:53
Speaker
And then like a couple of minutes in the match, I'm like, OK, you win. You're going to win this one. Roman's got it. What kind of underwear are you buying him? We did not make a wager for this. We just want to do a mistake by Johnny mistake. Big big mistake by him. Because you could right now be watching hours of grim. And you know what? If I had to bet on this match, I'd be watching fucking grim right now, too, because I was like, yeah, you know, we're going to tune in and watch Cody win.
00:20:22
Speaker
And, uh, but man, they really pulled us in like, you know what, let's get these fucking AEW marks to tune into our show, get us the biggest ratings or like the most viewers we've ever had for a WrestleMania and then tell them to fuck back off Wednesday nights. And, and particularly when you think about the timing of the sale, right?
Impact of WWE's Sale and Future Plans
00:20:41
Speaker
Which now becomes, I remember texting you guys, you know, that all finds out that Sunday morning, right? Just when everyone's talking about it, we're talking about it Sunday morning. And I'm like, that timing is really curious, but then it's like,
00:20:52
Speaker
They're just like, I could see like the meeting in the back with creative. So Vince, wait, you want to have a really shitty finish and Cody loses. Like what is the, what are we building? Like, what's the point? Like, you know, ratings might go down. We sold to endeavor. What do I give a fuck? I just want to fuck those cons, including Nick Khan. We've got to continue. We've got to see through Paul's vision.
00:21:19
Speaker
Did I just sell the company for $10 billion? Yeah? Do we have enough cocaine to fill my penis? Then why are you asking questions? Get the hell out of my way, let's go. I just want to talk about the merger here for a second again, because Dana White was asked for his opinion about this, because now that he and Vince are going to be part of the same company.
00:21:43
Speaker
And where does slap boxing fit into this? Do we know yet? Well, that's actually a great question. I mean, Vince has promoted a lot of dumb things. Maybe the two of them together can work on some slap fighting. With bodybuilders. With bodybuilders on. Ah, see the problem. The problem, Dana, is you didn't get them jacked and oiled up. You got to get them good and oiled, put them in a man thong, and then have them slap the shit out of each other.
00:22:09
Speaker
You wondering where Cody's gonna be next WrestleMania? Do you remember the arm wrestling they had? Didn't they have that at WrestleMania at some point? They're like, almost, get over here. Cody, you're in a slap fight. We've got a cross promote.
00:22:26
Speaker
But here's the Dana White quote about Vince was amazing. He was like, that guy's a savage in the wrestling space. And I'm like, what a amazing use of words there, because we all know Vince is a savage in other spaces too. We're just legally not allowed to talk about it. Yet. Yet. Yet. Our non-disclosures haven't lapsed yet. He actually, I mean, I shouldn't say this, but I killed a guy a few years back and he helped me out.
00:22:56
Speaker
He's not so bad. Just you and John Cena, right? You understand that Vince is on a journey and you guys are friends and everyone makes mistakes. Everyone makes mistakes and Vince understood that you made mistakes and you understand that Vince has made some mistakes and together happiness. You bought a lot of t-shirts for me over the years, pal. I got you.
00:23:26
Speaker
So, uh, yeah, there was plenty that we did. There was some really, it's, it's funny that we like just start out complaining. Cause that used to be the, uh, the original predetermined, like in the early, early days was like, we aren't going to complain. We're going to find the positive.
00:23:45
Speaker
A lot of positive in that main event. And again, the night one, Rhea Ripley, that was awesome. It was really weird after the match and Charlotte's just a very bizarre character, but that match fucking killed. The tag title match fucking owned, which is also, I'm still figuring, but the main event title match is because you have both of the tag title teams in there. If you were going to do something schmazzy and dumb,
00:24:10
Speaker
Why not do it with the most popular guys that just fucking tore the roof down the night before? Why do you have the solo who why was even out there with Roman in the first place, quite frankly, and he gets kicked out like none of it makes any goddamn sense. But Night One was great.
00:24:28
Speaker
Yeah. The meaty men slapping meat on, um, on Sunday night were delightful. Yeah. I wish it was longer. I do too. I do too, but I was in a, uh, a group text and Derek asked me, I didn't remember saying this, so I have to go back and watch this. Apparently before the other night, my favorite WrestleMania match ever was Shane McMahon versus miss.
00:24:54
Speaker
Uh, according to Derek, I don't remember this match at all. And I feel bad. Apparently it was my favorite. Did you make a hot take? Is the hot take or something? I mean, I don't really remember this. I know. Well, you were there for that. Facts and I were there for that match. That was in, okay, in New York. Yeah. That was the one where they brawled around and miss jumped off something. I don't remember. I have big recollections of this match. Same night as punk taker.
00:25:20
Speaker
No, no, no, the 2019 one. It's like memorable this match was. We're struggling. We were there. We're like struggling. We were there was only four years ago. And again, you just tell me that match. I assumed it had to be longer ago than four years ago. Well, I mean, I was a big Miz fan for a long time. And it sounds like I got some good payoff in that match that year. I was like, this is the happiest a WrestleMania match has ever made me.
00:25:50
Speaker
quickly came and went in my brain. So the meat's lapping. But that was good. That was the only good thing at night too, because even Balor Edge was violently mediocre. Yeah, it was a weird... The color-coded sticks were... That was particularly strange. They were like, you know, everybody jumps off the cage. So what we're going to do is have Finn Balor jump off something less tall.
00:26:16
Speaker
that will really get them and land on his feet. Oh my God, the agony of landing on his feet. Fuckin' tell that to Dante Martin, the agony of landing on your feet. Yeah, I will say it was a, I mean, what was your, what was your favorite? Well, let's, again, let's, let's dwell on something nice. What was your favorite show of media weekend? Hmm.
00:26:44
Speaker
Honestly, if I can choose just night one for me, I think it's not even close. It's WrestleMania night one. That was Logan Paul, Seth Rollins was also night one, right? There were three really, really good matches and nothing that I can remember was that bad or if it was, it was pretty quick.
00:27:06
Speaker
And I got to learn about prime energy drinks, cinnamon toast crunch and into a Turbo Tax. Mm hmm. I'm still convinced. Dammit, I forgot to get a prime for tonight. I'm still convinced Jimmy Lloyd was in that prime outfit. I know they they kept telling me it was somebody else, but it was it was Jimmy Lloyd. Well, and I think that's the other reason for me. I think it's easily to say mania night one is that, well, there was no
00:27:33
Speaker
truly bad shows there really wasn't like I didn't watch the the the the WrestleCon show. So I think that's the only like really big show I didn't see I saw most of the GCW shows I saw the big GCW shows I saw Ring of Honor and they were all like fine. They're all solid but like none of them were exceptional. Yeah, I mean, I think
00:27:57
Speaker
Ring of Honor was a good show, but you did feel the lack of a classic. Again, all three Tony Khan Ring of Honor shows had stone cold classic tag team matches on them. And this show did not have one of those. Had a lot of other very good things. I liked Eddie against Claudio. I liked
00:28:19
Speaker
I liked the ladder match. That was pretty good. I liked, uh, obviously the Viking match was fun, but it wasn't like an all time classic ladder match, right? It was just a normal workman, like really good multi-man ladder match. Like there's not a lot of multi-man ladder matches with good teams. That isn't good. Right. Like, and that one was not particularly going to be memorable year.
00:28:40
Speaker
My friend John was in attendance for that one. And I said something about you're lucky you didn't see that spot up close like us idiots on TV. And he said where he was sitting was where they next to where they wheeled Dante Martin out. And he said that they did everybody in that was in the audience the service of covering his leg with a towel so that they no one could see it as he went by.
00:29:05
Speaker
Yeah, that's why I mean, in fact, I disagree there. We're going to remember that because of whatever direction Dante Martin's like with it, unfortunately. And his career, those those Martin boys are not the luckiest when it comes to durability. It appears it appears they trained in a wrestling ring on a Native American burial ground. And that Native American hunting them.
00:29:33
Speaker
They're being haunted by the Pope's exorcist. Coming to peacock. Get those boys Russell Crowe. They need the crow man. They need some crow in their life. What's funny is I didn't even consider until you asked what the best show of the weekend was.
00:29:53
Speaker
And I think I do agree with facts. I think that every show that I watched had something worth watching. Like there was good shit on every single show I watched, but nothing had as many good matches as WrestleMania Night One.
00:30:11
Speaker
And it also does feel like with GCW and, you know, listeners of this know that we're obviously big fans. It does feel like GCW, like Janela spring break didn't feel as big. And it also felt like they kind of spread some of their big matches out, maybe a bit too much. Cause like by Kingo, by the time he had worked that he had so many matches already, he was like kind of blown up early in that match with, with speed ball, right? Oh wait. Yeah, that was speed ball. And then like.
00:30:38
Speaker
Uh, Koda and Joey was really good, but it like, and I think that was probably better that that was Koda's second match. Cause I think that blood sport being his first match was, was a good look. Cause like, it was kind of a good way, like almost like training wheels for heading back on. Cause it's working more of a shoot style short match, but like, that was one of my favorite of the entire weekend. Like I really loved that blood sport match.
00:31:02
Speaker
Yeah, but blood sport kind of sucked overall. All blood sports kind of suck. No, they do. I'm not disagreeing. It's always a one match. It's a weird fucking wrestling. Like I don't know who it's for that. There's like some tough guys out there that don't like all the pageantry of regular wrestling and want it to look more like UFC. Well, it's they want to control their narrative. They want to control their narrative, Gary.
00:31:27
Speaker
They do want extraordinary, but it's pride, right? Like Josh Barnett was in pride. Yeah, he's a pride guy and he's doing shows that he's doing pride shows. I'm trying to control your wrestling company, not not Effie's pride. Right. Definitely. Although I would love to see Effie do a blood sport. Hmm. Oh, that would. Yeah. There's always next year. They should combine big gay brunch and blood sport and into a big gay blood sport.
00:31:57
Speaker
You mentioned control your narrative and you just made me realize that many months ago, I pre-ordered a comic book I never received. And I don't believe I ever got a refund or an email or anything. I think EC3 pocketed seven bucks or whatever and went on his way. Sorry, content back to wrestling, but EC3, what the fuck? I thought we were bros.
00:32:21
Speaker
Speaking of control your narrative, I will say that our friend Paul did at one point get to have a drink with Braun Strowman and would neither confirm nor deny that he cried with him. It's easy to get in his head. Hey, Braun, how you doing? He just starts sobbing. What are you asking me this for? The bad man talked to me too long at a bar once and I have PTSD.
00:32:51
Speaker
Oh, the bro just came back, rode a scooter down to the ring. Oh, that's great. Good, we'll see him excited. Sorry. That's another good sign Vince is back in power. He's like, what'd he do? Come on, bring him back.
00:33:10
Speaker
He's just hanging out with porn stars. There's nothing wrong with that. Honestly, the only reason Marty Skurl doesn't have a contract with them is that, you know, he denied it at first. He's like, no, you got to own it, Marty. Go even younger. What about you, Chris? What was your favorite show of the weekend?
00:33:34
Speaker
I don't want to, I don't want to be in full agree. I guess I'll go the ROH show. I think I like that a little bit better than WrestleMania night one, but I'm with you guys that WrestleMania night one was a pretty strong, um, was a pretty strong show.
00:33:49
Speaker
And I did again, I did not think I was actually one of the things I was thinking about. I was texting you guys. And this is why I love you as friends, is that, you know, I can just it can just be like Sunday morning. And I just like, look, guys, I have stray thoughts about wrestling that we may go watch a year from now and I'm going to share them with you. And you guys don't delete me from the thread. So. But it did make me feel like, man, like,
00:34:15
Speaker
Obviously I love GCW. I'm not sure how essential the collective is. You know, I feel like you got to get around town. I feel like this was, it tells me you got to get around town and it's taken a lot of different stuff and not lock yourself in one room with GCW. Yeah. A hundred because I was in Dallas last year, right? And I feel like last year I was still totally on like, well, the collective is priority. Number one, I really want to make the new Japan show, but that's about it. I didn't even go to ring of honor because I didn't want to miss any of the collective, all the GCW stuff.
00:34:44
Speaker
And I definitely feel like if I were in LA, I definitely would have gone to the Ring of Honor show. And I think that next year going into Philly, I think it'll be real interesting. I definitely am not buying a full bracelet of the collective. I'm definitely buying a la carte. And again, I'll buy tickets to stuff and maybe not even go. It's better to have than to want. And you can't overdose on wrestling from WrestleMania weekend.
00:35:11
Speaker
Yeah, I don't, it'll be real interesting and particularly like, if there's still going to be a Ring of Honor show, if there should be new Japan stuff, does new Japan stuff get even bigger? Does MLW run something? Cause that's the other thing too, is you have a lot of these big companies with big Northeast presence, right? Not a lot of traveling needed. Maybe House of Glory puts on something there, you know, like there's a lot of, a lot of different promotions that can, can show up pretty easily in Philly.
00:35:37
Speaker
Well and I think some of that probably shows up in the collective. Some of it does. Some of it, yeah. But I think what I was thinking about was like given the relationships that Impact and New Japan seem to have with the Arena, I'm guessing WrestleCon is the, their shows are the ones that get the Arena slots, ECW Arena I mean.
00:35:56
Speaker
Um, which means you gotta figure out some way. I mean, I don't know what the other viable option is for GCW. Maybe they run that rec center that our way that our weights used to run back in the beginning. Maybe they run like, um, a concert venue, like the electric factory, which is apparently the Franklin music hall now, which is a terrible name. Terrible name guys. That's the electric factory. I'll always be electric factory to me. I hope GCW just runs that bar that they'd ran during the pandemic shows in the very beginning of lockdown. Just do that.
00:36:26
Speaker
I'd love that balcony that Alex Zane was doing flips off of and stuff. Yeah. I mean, they were running that even pre-pandemic. They were. They were. But they had to run Philly post-pandemic.
00:36:41
Speaker
which is insane. Because they did the whole 24 hour show in there. That is the room that Jordan Oliver, like Jordan Oliver, he tore the, yeah, it's a, they actually can't run anything anymore. It's considered, considered a historical monument. It can't be touched. The smell of him still lingers. It's been consecrated by Russell Crowe and no one but Richard Dreyfus may set foot there.
00:37:14
Speaker
But so let's go back to Koda. So Koda, it did seem like he seemed like weird, quite frankly, when he came out, like he didn't know how to interact with crowds anymore. That's what I seem to notice. But once his engine got going in those matches, it was like, God damn, man, this is great.
AEW vs WWE: Talent and Booking Debates
00:37:33
Speaker
I hope he's in AEW like by the end of the week.
00:37:37
Speaker
you know, or somewhere. I don't even care if it's AEW. I just hope it's there somewhere that I can start seeing Kota Obushi Bangers on a regular basis again. He did some pretty fucking dangerous stuff with Joey. Like Joey is a weird person to pick first to let him have, you know, your life in his hands. Like the spot they did, didn't he do like a German suplex off? Like he basically did the gauge spot from a few weeks ago, but landed it.
00:38:06
Speaker
Yeah, kind of. They kind of landed in just enough, just enough to not die. But yeah, I don't know. I mean, if it'd be interesting if Bush is one of those guys, if a Bush showed up in another Japanese promotion, I would almost certainly pay for a month of their streaming service.
00:38:25
Speaker
Mm hmm. Yeah. 100%. All Japan DDT, Noah, whatever. You give me code to a bush, like three code of bushy matches, you'll get my, you know, 999 yen.
00:38:38
Speaker
I'm okay with him not signing with AEW, but still popping in now and again, like Suzuki or Ishi. I think that's the, probably the optimal thing. Like I don't see him being like a week to week character, but I do think if you can find a big moment with Kenny.
00:38:56
Speaker
There's something, and you can explain the backstory to people that aren't as deep into it. I think there's a lot there for that one. I get what you guys are saying, but I don't see how it would make financial sense for either party to do anything but an exclusive contract, right? Because if they're going to do big stuff, they got to pay him big money, and then are they going to just let him work wherever else he wants and do whatever else he wants, including in the States? So he's got to at least have a US exclusive, you'd think.
00:39:23
Speaker
And it seems highly unlikely he's going back to New Japan, so where else is he getting a big money offer that it would be worth it for him to keep his options open? Isn't he independently wealthy? I thought he came from a rich family or something, and that was part of the deal, is that Kota Obushi is pretty fucking rich already.
00:39:49
Speaker
money might not be like an issue as much. That's what I, that's what I remember hearing like years ago is that Coda was like a trust fund kid or something and like was pretty well off. Interesting. I mean, I certainly look, Max, if the only way I can enjoy Coda Bushi is if he signs a contract with AEW, I guess I'll have to watch a Coda Bushi match every week.
00:40:11
Speaker
Yeah, I'll even watch again. I'll even watch an episode of dark for that. Here's my one. Just one. Here's my pitch. Here's my pitch. Right. Kodobushi on the surface might not seem like a Vince guy, right? He's 40. He doesn't speak great English, but I five. But but. The AEW guys want him.
00:40:37
Speaker
And B, now with this endeavor deal, maybe you signed into a hybrid deal, he works a couple of big shows for WWE, slap fighting. He's done mixed martial arts. He's done pro wrestling. This is the last frontier. How do we get these marks back at 40? Codaabushi versus Roman Reigns. No, no, no. Codaabushi against Man Bun Slapper. Whatever his name is, I don't understand.
00:41:08
Speaker
Powerhouse, I don't know, whatever the guys are. But you can see a bushy being into slap fighting. He's like, oh, I can do that? And he I feel like he'd be good at it. He would just be destroying people. He'd be just like just stoically just. Yeah, yeah, I can I can I can take this guy. He doesn't seem like nothing. And he like slap someone and they're just crying. That man is Braun Strowman.
00:41:40
Speaker
I mean, I mean, if they signed if WWE signed him, you could have a bushy and ricochet. Right. Well, even it would probably be an episode of main event, but who cares? I guess I don't know. I mean, AEW, I'm thinking like a bushy Bandito, a bushy commander. Like I'm thinking some of the lucha guys I would very much like to watch a bushy go against.
00:42:02
Speaker
Yeah, and I also wouldn't hate it. Again, if you even look at some of the even Japanese women, that they seem to be really comfortable with saying, hey, Com, we'll do some tours, but you can have ample time home. And that doesn't sound bad either, right? That you start getting maybe an Ibushi match every other week for a two-month period, then maybe you don't see Ibushi for a month or two. And I feel like that would also keep him fresh, only do really big matches, but he could still be on TV often enough.
00:42:31
Speaker
He could do pre-taped stuff that they could just put on Rampage or whatever to build stories with or against Kenny. I think there's a lot of good stuff they could do. I'm trying to walk through for those who didn't consume as much wrestling as us as we can. Losers. Losers. Things you guys would recommend outside of
00:42:53
Speaker
the big shows, I will toss out obviously, uh, by Kingo and commander at ROH was really good, but also available wrestle con super show. And, uh, this is free with a, at least a trial for the, uh, for high spots, um, had Viking go against commander against, uh, black Taurus in the main event, which was really, really good. Um, and worth seeing.
00:43:19
Speaker
One thing I didn't expect to happen to me this weekend was get burned out on Vikingo. Well, I think Vikingo got burned, because again, by those last shows, he just looked like he was barely able to physically hold it together, which makes sense when you look at how much he worked and how intensely he works.
00:43:41
Speaker
Yeah, I actually wasn't surprised by that. Just because I do think at this stage, it seems like the guy's got a thing, and it's an incredible thing. But there are only so many variants, I think.
00:43:56
Speaker
that he's got. And so you watch him a few times in a row. And there's, again, this is not a knock. I think that dude's amazing. I also think that he is someone who I think I enjoy more when the production quality is better. And I think it's because a lot of times on indie shows, he's moving in different ways. And the ability to really capture in a clean way what's happening isn't there. And so sometimes you watch him on a GCW show, and it's not
00:44:26
Speaker
I don't think it's his fault, it's just that if you don't capture it well, it's not as exciting. You watch him on ROH with multiple camera angles and you're like, oh yeah, this is insane. I can really see how incredible what he's doing is as opposed to on, yeah, just like a GCW show or WrestleCon or whatever.
00:44:43
Speaker
By the way, and I think that that does kind of hurt GCW and the collective at WrestleMania Weekend is like, now that there are more of these really well produced shows, it does kind of like, like literally, we all watched Ring of Honor.
00:44:59
Speaker
And then it was what, like 20 minutes after Ring of Honor ended is when Spring Break started somewhere in that ballpark. And it was like, and for me, I came in like an hour into a little under an hour into Ring of Honor. So I finished Ring of Honor and then went back and watched the Commander match.
00:45:16
Speaker
And then went directly to spring break and it was like, it's quite a downshift. It's like, you know, all of a sudden your internet slows down and everything just pixels out. And, you know, it wasn't as many issues as that St. Patty's Day show where we missed half of the match I was most excited about.
00:45:34
Speaker
But it is something that normally I'm OK with the production value of GCW because I'm just watching GCW or other indie wrestling. But like when you're going from like Ring of Honor to to GCW to WrestleMania, it's it's pretty noticeable.
00:45:52
Speaker
I also think the Ukrainian Cultural Center is not one of their best looking venues for TV yet. However, they shot. I think it looks like people are having a good time. But whatever the issue, whatever the lighting is there or whatever camera angles they have, I I never think the shows there look like the actual wrestling looks that good.
00:46:12
Speaker
I agree. I actually agree. I think the light, I think it's too bright, maybe like it's. It's like hammering. With this one, I did notice they had actual lighting rigs like it looked like set up to the ceiling, which I don't know if they normally do. I don't think so. I don't remember ever seeing them at a GCW show. Yeah.
00:46:35
Speaker
I listened to anyone I have not actually gotten. The one thing I'm sad I have not gotten to watch is I think somewhere online. I think it's online. I hope it's online. I know they were streaming a lot of stuff.
WrestleMania Weekend Highlights and Side Events
00:46:45
Speaker
They may be the Minoru Suzuki karaoke thing, although it appeared he was mostly just judging karaoke, which seems less exciting than I wanted it to be. And I had heard he did. It seemed like he wasn't having a good time.
00:46:58
Speaker
It actually seemed like the Circle Six stuff got weird. Like, was it you that sent a photo of what was happening at Circle Six and there was a show happening to zero fans? I did not see. It wasn't me, but that does not surprise me. It really felt like they did not. They have like a lot of shows happening and some of them, they were outside and I think it was raining.
00:47:22
Speaker
And some of that shit was like a lot of those shows were like six dollars. They were like the cheapest show you could be at. And we're still bringing in like maybe 20 people to a bar in Hollywood, which wouldn't be if it's in Hollywood, it wouldn't be too terribly far from where the Ukrainian cultural center is. Hmm. I didn't watch a single one of their shows, so I I did not either. Do we know what what what Joey Ryan was doing for Mania Weekend in Hollywood?
00:47:51
Speaker
I mean, he may have been at Universal Studios, the Super Nintendo World Open. He's there as a spectator. He can't push the buttons. He was doing catering at the SoFi Stadium, hoping to get into Vince's locker room to see if they could, you know, if he could convince him of some things.
00:48:14
Speaker
Him walking in like a room and Jimmy Lloyd's like, what do you call these? And he's like, these are little hot dogs with toothpicks in them. And he's like, huh, I've never had those before. Eats the whole tray. I don't know what, I'm looking at this list of other stuff. The emo, I will say emo fight two. The one in New York, not super great from what I remember. Emo fight two, pretty fun. Oh, go ahead.
00:48:44
Speaker
No, I should say I haven't actually caught that one yet. The vibe of it was very funny. Like some of the some of the wrestlers went like hard in on the the emo gimmick. And let's see with the opening match of it was a scramble and everybody that came in basically did the Raven spot.
00:49:05
Speaker
So it was like Jimmy Lloyd and black eyeliner, who else? Like Billy Starks, whoever the fuck, like four people came in with eyeliner and all just sat in the corner. And so it's just a ring of people sitting in every corner. And eventually everybody starts fighting and Jimmy Lloyd never got up. People are just fighting around to sitting Jimmy Lloyd. The funniest person in that match though, B-Boy went hard into the emo thing and had like,
00:49:33
Speaker
Cause does he normally, is his hair black? I think so. It felt like his shit was dyed like Vince McMahon style. Like he just seemed, and he was like laying down in the chairs and just seeming really bored. Um, the CISOs went hard into it. One of the funniest though, Jenai Kai.
00:49:53
Speaker
She had a hoodie on and after her entrance, she did the Raven spot, sat in the corner, but was just like playing on her phone and just being like not paying attention to the match, like playing on her phone instead of paying attention to the entrance. And she ended up beating the other person in a finisher. And while she's choking it out, she's just like piddling on her phone. And I don't know, there was a sense of wackiness to it
00:50:21
Speaker
that I missed at a spring break, which spring break tends to be one of the wackier shows. Like, you know, they cut the cluster fuck. They didn't give us like a legacy wrestler that's having a weird match with somebody current. You know, I don't know.
00:50:37
Speaker
It was kind of a weird weekend for the collective. And I thought Emo Knight, the music still sucked horribly. But the wrestling ended up being kind of fun. Not necessarily comedy matches, but comedy elements within them that gave it a sense of it being its own show and something different than the rest of the collective. It's weird because it's surprising to me that
00:51:03
Speaker
you would get more of the spring break wackiness from the warlord and the barbarian against Dilfoy by a pool than you would from actual spring break. Really, I was doing you a favor when you think about it.
00:51:20
Speaker
I think I think the one spring break match that got kind of almost a little bit there was was Machi death kill. Yeah. And I think they got a they got a I think that that's the perfect use of Nick Gage right now is I think Machi death kill should be a thing for a little while. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was honestly, I think you're right. Like other than
00:51:43
Speaker
As far as just having a fun vibe to it, that was 100% the most fun match on that show. And Ally and Effie seemed to have a lot of fun with it too. Like everybody seemed to have a lot of fun with that one. And yet a lot of blood too. Speaking of those two and blood, maybe my favorite match of spring break weekend was the main event of Big Gay Brunch.
00:52:06
Speaker
It was a six-person match. It was Thrussy, so Bussy plus Dark Sheik, and Charles Mason, Pero, and Billy Dixon on the other team. And they had a lot of storyline going into it that the commentary explained. There was a lot of blood from Effie. And at the beginning of it, Mason said, he's like, finally, you finally sell this show out, and how do you do it? You have a straight guy main event, the show.
00:52:38
Speaker
And he played heel so well. Pero was very funny. They said that on commentary they announced that his pronouns were daddy and sir. But there was a whole storyline where they had signed Billy Dixon on a contract because his mom's sick and he needed the money so he couldn't turn on Mason and Pero and
00:53:02
Speaker
ladder spots, they would end up, it just ended up being a really good, fun match, like really a nice spring break moment. Not spring break, but collective moment, WrestleMania weekend, I guess. And I heard there was actually brunch this year.
00:53:18
Speaker
Ooh, that's exciting. I did watch some of the FTR live podcasting. That was pretty fun. Who was on that with them? Well, well, Cash was on. They answered some questions together and talked about wrestling. It was nice. They had Hobbs on. They had where they at like the rest of the club in Hollywood. Yeah. Sean Spears and Wardlow.
00:53:48
Speaker
We're involved, Sean Spears was quite funny. And they had a special appearance from the ass boys. Ooh. Calling them out. Spitting out. Yeah, just, you know, setting things up for for this this coming Wednesday, which again, you'll you'll by the time anyone will hear this, it'll happen. So we won't talk about it. But and you both will be there. We'll be there.
00:54:12
Speaker
They should we will be there. Yeah. Are you excited? Like, are you are you pumped to go to an AEW show? Like, are you happy with the card? I'm very hard. Yeah. And honestly, like I'm kind of like everything about this weekend made me more excited and not just because I'm excited about wrestling, but it's just kind of like, oh, yeah, higher production values and better storytelling in TV wrestling than all of the Indies. But I'm not going to get pounded in the ass the way that Vince does.
00:54:43
Speaker
Although, I mean, there were some complaints, but from TK's booking, but our, of our ring of honor that both Mark Briscoe and Eddie Kingston lost. Yeah. But, and here's a crazy thing that Shabbata won the pure championship. What the fuck? Like, which is just an insane thing to have happened. And like, might Shabbata be there on Wednesday? Like, is he just in ring of honor now? Like.
00:55:10
Speaker
Are you guys going to get Ring of Honor tapings at this? Yes. Yes. Oh, shit. Rampage is going to be live this Friday. So we're getting Ring of Honor tapings, I guess before and after. I assume at some point, Mox and Shabbat are just going to come out and headbutt each other for fun. Yeah. And I'm not going to match or anything. They're just going to be like, let's do this. Which Mox did open himself up this weekend with his one match headbutting headbutting during Bloodsport.
00:55:40
Speaker
And that was good, too. I would say, again, for anyone interested in blood sport. So it's nine matches and only like two hours and 10 minutes long. You should still fast forward. But I would say definitely watch a bushy and watch mocks. And I think that are they back? No, there's matches in between those two. But just watch those two. The rest are the same. If you watch the first one, all the other matches are the same. There was. Is there one I like?
00:56:10
Speaker
is there a match your most like if looking at the card I was super stoked to see best friends versus house of black I think that's gonna be super fun yeah yeah I think that's the one um that I wasn't aware because like I've been I'm up to date in um AEW but I've definitely been fast forwarding a lot and I fast forward through the non wrestling non
00:56:31
Speaker
Promos by people I enjoy so I might have fast-forwarded through that getting announced on dynamite or something But I was announced over the weekend because I saw it on the ring of honor card I was like, ooh because on the ring of honor card they announced like they went through the entire dynamite card. I'm like, oh shit That's actually a really good card Yeah, I mean for the Jamie Hader match Jamie Hader and Rio should be great I'm I'm really interested to see where they're going with
Upcoming AEW Event and Show Predictions
00:56:55
Speaker
this FTR thing. They've really built up that like
00:56:59
Speaker
regardless of the outcome, they're going somewhere with this. And I'm so very interested to be there for that live. Well, I would imagine, given they said that they'll never challenge for the titles again, right, if they lose. So I would imagine they lose, then go to WWE and Vince has them lose to the Usos after building it up for a year. Exactly.
00:57:27
Speaker
I was that was it. That was one thing, by the way, that I thought after Cody lost to go back to the big one is I was just like, well, you hear these rumors and I don't personally think there's much to it. But like, and some of it's probably just made up. There's people that are like, oh, you know, the box and Kenny actually don't. They're having some issues, blah, blah, blah. They might they might try to get offers from WWE. Once you get that offer, you might have to take it. And part of me just went through my head and back. That would be something if the person to meet Roman was Kenny.
00:57:57
Speaker
Yeah, that would be. But again, again, facts, you're coming back to this. It's far more likely that it's going to be Braunbreaker. It's a hundred percent Braunbreaker. When you brought that up over the weekend, I was like, holy fuck, they're going to they are going to carry this out for like three more years. Here's the one problem with that. And it's the only one because otherwise it's flawless. Well, it's that I don't think Vince can go three more years without putting the title on Brock.
00:58:29
Speaker
So unless, I feel like they also might just add two more titles, right? Just do the old add more title. No, no, we're going to keep Romans and keep both titles, but then we're going to add two more titles for Brock. And he's going to hold those. Roman's going to have the Mid-Atlantic title. There's already that. I will say, well, just one observation, just I don't want to go back and dwell on WWE stuff too much, but like,
00:58:54
Speaker
It does feel like they've forgotten what got them there. Like, no, except for the fucking first night, Rhea Ripley and Sandy Zane fucking rolled. No, but I mean, we're like with, with baby faces, right? The thing about baby. Well, even that though, here's, here's my think facts. Do you remember Hulk Hogan's epic chase of the title?
00:59:19
Speaker
You don't, because it lasted six weeks. He came in, they put the belt on iron chic. He got the match with chic. He leg dropped chic. He then leg dropped people for four years fucking straight. And they made millions of millions of dollars. He dropped it a couple of times and won it back the next year, but there was no chase. He basically just went away for a year and then came back and got the belt back.
00:59:40
Speaker
We had to make fun of this bullshit. Yeah, there was none of this bullshit where it's like, oh, you got to make them earn it. It's like, no, people like baby faces who win. People hated Roman for years because he kept losing. People started liking Roman when he started beating everyone. Now they're like tribal chief. Yeah, you should acknowledge him. Yeah, because he started fucking winning all the fucking time. Make the guy win that you want to be the guy.
01:00:06
Speaker
It's not that hard. And it's just weird. I feel like even with the Sami Zayn thing, right? Yes, he got a win, but like you just made him job in his hometown a month ago. Yeah, I mean, and that's why Brock won in like 90 seconds. Yes, yes. Because Brock is the guy. He was our youthful young baby face of the future. Exactly.
01:00:28
Speaker
He's gonna show Cody how it's done tonight. Yeah. And he's bright red from the penis hole cocaine. He invinced it immediately after the match. That's why he went on first last night. They needed a good two hours of the penis hole cocaine before they could properly enjoy the main event.
01:00:51
Speaker
So I do want to bring up something. So last week, I felt bad about something, Chris. You punished me in a way that I didn't like. And I said something that stuck in my brain as a person with anxiety. I said, you don't know me well enough to hurt me this bad or whatever I said. And I take that back. I think you do.
01:01:21
Speaker
Um, we've known each other for quite a while that we've talked a lot over the years. We've had, uh, you know, real conversations outside of wrestling conversations. And I, I just felt like that was a hurtful thing to say, even though, like you didn't have to go to high school with me or grade school to fuck me up that mentally, you know, it can just be a few years, but we, we have a good connection. And I think that next week.
01:01:46
Speaker
Just to prove that we do know each other, we're gonna have a newlywed game with you and I. Questions about wrestling and our personal lives? Ooh, that sounds fun. I like a good trivia game. Facts, you're gonna get to find out the strangest place Chris and I have ever made whoopee together. Mm, I can guess though. The butt.
01:02:14
Speaker
Uh, well, I will say Garrett, first of all, um, I knew you were lying when you said that I knew you were just trying to hurt me. I didn't bother me. I knew you were wounded and I knew that I knew you well enough to, to, to hurt you. Um, and make you feel pain. Um, but yeah, I love, uh, I love answering questions. Um, if you ever, if you want to see me in facts, answer questions and you type in pro wrestling melee on YouTube, you can see us doing that.
01:02:42
Speaker
A lot. Shout out to our friend Angel who just had a baby the other day. Well, I guess his wife did. But like he's the dad. So that counts. He was part of the second child born on a WrestleMania weekend. So wrestling fan.
01:02:57
Speaker
really query what, I mean, the timing here. I mean, you just gotta, you gotta think more about that. Happens once, you know, shame on you, but happens twice shame on me, you know? I really like my first thought was that's so nice. And then I felt like, oh, he fucked up his whole weekend. The whole weekend.
01:03:16
Speaker
And it was a good one this year, too. Although that could be short term because, you know, Chris, your birthday is near you. You've actually had your birthday on the day of a WrestleMania on more than one occasion, if I'm not mistaken. And next year, next year, next year, it'll be again. And maybe we'll be there. I feel like that could be a good thing. If this kid grows up a wrestling fan as a parent, real easy birthday present that you can plan around the as a kid, like I get to go to WrestleMania or something like that, like,
01:03:46
Speaker
Or I get to have my friends over and we have to watch WrestleMania together. Like I think short term, you know, it's going to be rough law and I and we know from experience with Angel's first child that he's not been able to join us for WrestleMania festivities. But I think long term having a couple of wrestling fan WrestleMania babies is going to be a good thing. Yeah, I agree. I think he's he's a man who plays the long game.
01:04:13
Speaker
Yeah. Now what you don't want is to have your baby around backlash in Puerto Rico, because once that thing becomes a national, uh, every, every year event, then it's going to be bigger than WrestleMania in no time. Right. And of course, um, you mean WrestleMania backlash presented by the Puerto Rican board of tourism Snickers and the olive garden. Cause when you're here in Puerto Rico, your family.
01:04:43
Speaker
They're like an unlimited breadsticks triple threat deathmatch. Yes. Yes. They're going to paint the breadsticks different colors and they're going to hit each other with them. They're going to tape them on the ropes like they're light tubes. I wonder if Bad Bunny is going to actually murder one of the wrestlers.
01:05:06
Speaker
I saw he was fighting punishment Martinez tonight. Like they they went back and forth and shoved each other and it looked like Dom hit him. So. Hmm. Hmm. I will also give credit to Dom from this week. A first I thought that match was I don't want to say it was great, but I thought it was solid. I thought Dom held up his end of the bargain, which is I mean, that's a pretty solid standard to uphold when he's wrestling a literal Hall of Famer and his dad.
01:05:35
Speaker
Yeah, but our friend, again, our friend Paul met Dom this weekend and he took a picture with him and Rhea Ripley and said, well, I guess I'm in the judgment day now too. And Dom said no. And I was like, solid heel work there, Dom. Solid heel work. A little jealousy about Rhea. Rhea might legitimately be the only person in WWE I would buy a shirt from right now.
01:06:02
Speaker
I like mommy. My wife got sick of me calling her mommy all weekend. Wanted me to buy your wife the on your mommy shirt. Hmm. I guess, yeah, because then I get to look at it at least. Yeah, exactly. It's really it doesn't work. I mean, I guess you could wear it and that would be that'd be a really weird turn in your relationship, but. You OK, facts, you look like you're crying.
01:06:30
Speaker
Yeah, it's just, I was thinking because I would love a Sammy or a Kevin Owens shirt, but, uh, I'm left for you. Well, and just also like the kill steam kill is one of the great shirts of all time. So I just am like, and there's some good generico stuff. I just can't see how even with this rage, raging popularity that WWE actually produces a shirt good enough that I would, you know, put those in a rotation over any of the other ones.
01:07:00
Speaker
I just realized something. I got your facts. Don't worry. Yeah, it was interesting. I don't know. On the whole, other than the crushing disappointment that WWE delivered like no one else can. I had a good time this weekend. I had a good time. I ended up watching, you know, way more wrestling than I thought I would. I did watch a lot of baseball, too. Did not talk to my wife very much at all. You know, but it was it was a good time.
01:07:30
Speaker
I'm, you know, I wouldn't want the time back. It was great, but I'm kind of glad we're through it. And now we get to start building some other stuff. Yeah. I mean, it was, it was good. We, uh, my kid had, uh, it was, my kid was sick. My wife had the flu. So in between, uh, running back and forth for them, I got to watch some, some grabs and, uh, you know, that was, that was a nice distraction.
01:08:00
Speaker
Yeah, but now there's again fun wrestling ahead. I'm going to, you can see, uh, apparently beast man and Becca on the same show. Very exciting. Yeah. Um, a week from now I convinced my wife to go to a wrestling show with me because there's going to be a performance by a Tony award-winning singer as who is doing a song from that musical that Matt Cardona was in.
01:08:23
Speaker
Like I sent this to her and she was like, we should go to that. And I was like, sure. We're love of Broadway. My love of professional wrestling colliding in a brewery in deep Queens. What promotion? Outlaw. Outlaw. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. So Matt Cardona is going to be there, but also someone named Roman, Roman, Ramon, Ronan. I don't know. Uh, Karimlu. He's a singer. He's a Broadway star and my wife's a fan. Well, I hope, I hope he's good at bleeding.
01:08:57
Speaker
Have you met Cardona before? I haven't. I haven't. I don't think I've met him properly. No, I don't think so. I have. Are you going to wear a Cardona gear to this show or like what? I could. I've got a Cardona shirt. I could. You're going to tell me you love his podcast. No, I'm going to I'm going to tell him he's the deathmatch king. I'm going to tell him I loved when he spit on when he spit on Mittens.
01:09:27
Speaker
That is a good opening line. But then you can turn heel and be like, but, you know, I prefer Grimm's Grimm's Toy Show. If I'm watching about.
01:09:42
Speaker
Yeah. If I'm watching wrestling on the, uh, toy shows on the internet, I like grim's toy show over years. Matt, he's like, I bet that would hurt him. I've, I wondered, do you grim Stoico probably has more subscribers than Cardona. Oh yeah. I, I would say it's not even close. Cause the kids don't like Cardona. They like grim. Grim has the voices. He's got the naughty names.
01:10:09
Speaker
By the way, I kept looking at some of those numbers you were sharing. You realize that the numbers of subscribers he has for whichever one was his top subscription. That's more people than watch raw or dynamite in a given week. Yeah. And that's on TV. Well, I'll tell you this Snickers has never sponsored Grimstoyco. There you go. Not yet.
01:10:39
Speaker
And it's in the fucking marketing is right there. Just are you hungry? We got three words for you. Snickers, I guess four words. Eat it. Yeah. Buffalo Wild Wings could maybe get him, you know, do some cross promotion with the Appalachian wrestling. Come for the wings. Stay for the wrestling.
01:11:00
Speaker
So I thought you were doing cross promotion with Buffalo Wild Wings and grit yet with grim. It's like, what could make your Buffalo Wild Wings die a real worse? Watch this. All right. So just cause let let's go with this. Let's, let's, let's maybe go to a super happy note. Let's not talk about WWE. Let's just say.
01:11:20
Speaker
Next year, the collective, Janela Spring Break, what is your, has to be somewhat realistic, right? Can't be like Roman against Joey or something. What would be your one year advanced noticed Joey Janela Spring Break main event wish list? What would be on there? That's a good question. Moxley versus Beastman.
01:11:49
Speaker
Well, but Moxley couldn't, right? He's only able to do these dates because they were dates he owed from when he was in rehab. He said that on the podcast. That's why he was at UTT. I thought it was OTT. It was OTT, but he he at least implied that that was the bloodsport one as well. Oh, he's completely done then. I believe he now is under exclusive contract. Well, but I mean Beastman versus CM Punk. That would be interesting.
01:12:21
Speaker
Maybe get Mercedes in there against somebody. I'm trying to think like who Mercedes Monet would, cause I don't think she's exclusive to. Joey Janela against Vince McMahon. Cause there's no way Vince gives a fuck anymore. And I think he just wants to wander around Philly and just, just take it all in. And I think, I think he's like, yeah.
01:12:49
Speaker
Bring it, Joey, let's do it. Let's go hardcore. No, I'm going to go with Garrett's and I'm going to be realistic because that would be a line of cocaine on a pole match that you have taken your penis. But I would go Mercedes and Tankman against Maki Death Kill. You got a year to build that up. Ooh.
01:13:15
Speaker
You probably get somebody better than Tankman. I'm just trying to figure out who would maybe be a good big heel we could put with Mercedes. It was nice to see Tankman this weekend. I feel like we just don't get him anymore. Is he at the show in New York this week?
01:13:34
Speaker
I don't know. You might. I haven't paid that much attention to the MLB card. Here's my here's my other pitch, guys, that could happen before WrestleMania weekend. But I feel like would be something Tony Khan would try to make happen by Kingo versus Will Ospreay. Yeah, I think Tony Khan could make that happen. Yeah.
01:13:54
Speaker
That would even be like a really sick match for like forbidden door. Hmm. Yeah. But they couldn't for forbidden door and that match probably couldn't happen at all because of CMLL. Unless by Kingo is science full time with AEW.
01:14:11
Speaker
Ooh, that's a good point. Right. Because they're not going to let Will Osprey work against the AAA guy. But, hey, this is what fantasy bookings for. Who knows what could happen in a year and the power that maybe Nick Khan joins AEW and he can smooth over some of these things. We got all three cons on the same side. Honestly, you know what legacy wrestler throw Triple H into the cluster fuck?
01:14:37
Speaker
One hour, three hour Jordan Oliver Iron Man match. It's just one of the collective shows. Again, it's Jordan Oliver versus what's the DDT doll name? Yoshi for it. Yeah, for three hours. Oh, shit. All right, guys, I think it is time to sign off here. Yeah, I mean, yeah, I mean, I could talk more about people that
01:15:06
Speaker
Jimmy Lloyd versus his demons or something like that. Actually, how about just a Jimmy Lloyd on a pole match and it's Lauderdale having to get his little buddy back. I love it. Viscera. I don't know. Viscera is probably not with us anymore. I can't imagine. He's definitely not actually. Maybe Midian. Is he still alive?
01:15:28
Speaker
Help, help. Actually, it's just a copy of the fucking Good Shepherd on a pole. I mean, tugboat looks great when you see him. So he's somehow not only alive, but looks fucking dynamo, even though he's got to be in his 60s. They really just got to be walking through WrestleCon and being like, and you. Yep. Oh, fuck. Well, it was a good weekend. Always love a WrestleMania weekend.
01:15:58
Speaker
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