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There Can Only Be One (Winner)! - Ep 25
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It's the 25th episode of And My Trowel, and to celebrate, Ash and Tilly decided to have a battle of wits in order to see who could remember the most from the last 24 episodes. There can only be one! (Or can there...?)
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Introduction to Episode 25
00:00:01
Speaker
You're listening to the Archaeology Podcast Network. You have my sword. And you have my bow. And my trowel.
Discussing Quest Breaks and Quiz Introduction
00:00:10
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Hi, you're listening to episode 25 of And My Trowel, where we look at the fantastic side of archaeology and the archaeological side of fantasy. I'm Ash. And I'm Tilly. And so remember how we decided to take a bit of a break of from questing? Yeah, I believe. If I remember correctly, I think there was a quiz mentioned. You're absolutely right Tilly, there was. Because we're already up to episode 25 about my trial, not including obviously our special bonus episode, Second Breakfast, which is available for APM members. I thought it would be a good time as any to have a look back and see how much we can actually remember from all the episodes we've done so far. Oh boy, I do not foresee this going well. Well, we're both going to have a chance to, you know, embarrass ourselves. so
00:00:58
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So first of all, I'm going to ask you some questions about our past episodes, and then you're going to have the chance to question me. And then we'll see who can remember more. I like it. So are you ready? I'm ready. OK. Also, for everyone listening in, why not play
Quizzing on Past Episodes
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along? I mean, we'll be sharing the answers at the end of the episode so you too can find out how much you've remembered.
00:01:19
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i All right. Okay. So the first episode I'm going to question you on is episode three. Okay. Our ghosts and ownership. And I want, this is a very specific question, but do you remember what gift was given to you at the end of episode three by the ghost? Oh, the gift that was given to me at the end.
00:01:41
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Who is it? Hang on, I'm trying to remember if it was a diadem or a necklace. oh Is it the necklace? Yes. What type of necklace? Oh boy, a big necklace. A big necklace. A glinting necklace. It was glinty. With like a jewel? It was made out of something. Gold? Silver? No. Bronze? No. Should I like take away points as we're going? but Oh God, I honestly can't remember. Jade. It was Jade. Jade, Nicholas, that's
Exploring Episode 12's Mythical Hag
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the one. Yeah. But I thought that would be a fun opener. But I also have another question. so um I'm just like sneaking in another one if you want it. I'm just checking the rule book here. It's the rule book of this quiz. The rule book of this quiz that we've literally just made up now. Yeah.
00:02:30
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I've scrolled easily down some questions. Well, do you remember what the definition was of ownership? Oh, gosh. Oh, man. You're going with these kind of questions, huh? I know. Ownership was the... living is something to do with living. That was important and having the... in your possession was something to do with that as well. Yeah, it was owning a static object. A static object, okay. And a historical object too, so it depended if it was a historical object, because then it would depend on the chronology of the ownership and the provenance of it as well. So it was a bit of a hard question
Vampire Burials and Ownership Questions
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that one, so sorry about that, but I thought we'd have a fun one and then a really hard one. I didn't get either of them right. You got like half a point. That's fine. I think I'm not going to get any right. So don't worry about it. I was like, I don't even know my episodes as we speak. Yeah. Yeah. You can be like something really difficult.
00:03:31
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What did Saruman say to the page does the next one? I thought I'd look at it again with Jen Demover. Right. So do you remember what archaeological approach Jen suggested for helping the ants?
00:03:46
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I remember she used a couple of different ones. I mean, she is an archaeobotanist. So, archaeobotanical approach. approach I feel like dendrochronology was used. Yes. Well done. Ding, ding, ding. Yes. Dendrochronology was the one. And then I thought a fun question. I've been asking you two questions each time. and I'm really sorry. Okay. Well, I just thought this one was a fun one and sort of relates to something that we're maybe doing as well later on. Surprises.
00:04:15
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Also, so would you remember what society we helped in that episode?
Taverns, Pubs, and Inns Quiz
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Oh. um
00:04:23
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Short answer, no, but I really want to remember. Oh, it was really cute. It was like the Huggle Bush something. um Was it Huggle Bush? It was in the historical Hubble Bush Society. Hubble Bush, that's it. Yeah, there you go. OK, I'll keep it try and keep it to one now. I enjoyed it. Yeah, it's quite fun. And then I thought I'd go to a specific episode again and look at episode 12, right? So in episode 12, we helped kind of locate a divine sash mythical hag. What was her name? Oh, God. Not Kaylee. Kayla. Kayla. You're close.
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I just had to get you to pronounce it.
Symbols of Power in Episode 14
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That's mean. Don't get me to spell it. but yeah ah Go on, smell it then. Next point, go on. Go on, bonus point for spelling. Oh, geez. I actually can't, but I'm going to go for it. C-A-I, no, C-A-E-L-A-I-D-H-G. Oh my God, are you just spelling the name Kaley? I don't know. I don't know. You actually close. yeah Hang on, don't tell me yet. We'll do it again. Go for the first one that you did. So you had C-A-I. C-A-I.
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i yeah It must be L. Mm-hmm. I'm trying to work out if it's a double L. Mm-hmm. Double L. Kai A-I-C-H? E-A-C-H. E-A-C-H. Yeah. Okay. I suddenly realised, of course, we said we'd share the answers at the end, so we should... Oh, yeah, well... I forgot about that as well. I was just excited to get something right. Yeah. I mean, that is really... We have to answer it in order to get the question right.
Deviant Burial Discussion
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yeah so yeah we'll we'll do it this way and then we'll just share the results at the end yeah right we'll do it all together all together dark lord ah episode 14 we talked a lot about power and the different symbols and examples are of archaeological power so kind of specifically different landscape ones and things, but I was wondering if you could name an example of power that we actually talked about. Oh boy. um
Magic Mirrors and Archaeological Approaches
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Now I'm trying to think back. Do we talk about like control of resources? Do you know what's a really good question? Cause I don't know. I was maybe? Yeah. We must've done.
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stiff i don't have that one written down i'm like i'm gonna look get that's great did do do like a with thought what's on order of the exs elevate
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dadede italyly me um but no we didn't talk about that. Oh no. Control of resources or land ownership. Yeah. Yeah. We did talk about that. So landscape and kind of the power of the landscape and how you can, well, I suppose it is holding resources in that way. so from ugly Yeah. Yeah. No, that's fair. That's fair. Maybe we should do an extra episode on that one. That one would be quite good. Yes. Power.
00:07:48
Speaker
that sounds like one I mean, to be fair, all of our episodes, I feel like we could expand them all out. That's true. That's so true. Next, I thought episode 17 and 18 at vampires. so oh yeah with Jessica. and So we talked a lot about the
Werewolves and Archaeology Theories
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different burials and real historical burials that feature vampirism. So I've got two questions for this one because it'll be quite fun. I'm a kid you name. You and your you know what's fun? More questions.
00:08:20
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All right. I just want to get overboard and I got excited. So yeah. So well, this means you could get double points and you can beat me. So really I'm actually handing you this trophy because clearly we're getting a trophy up there and do this. right So could you name a burial example that we used? Like a specific burial, like a name? Yeah. Can you, can you remember one of them?
00:08:44
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No. like Honestly, no. I'm so bad with names. And these ones were not ones that stuck in my mind. I'm trying to think. I mean, they were they were in there was a couple in like Eastern Europe. So I'm trying to think of a... I'll give you a hint. There was one beginning with a V. but Vampires, definitely. Vampire burial. I think the answer you're looking for is a vampire burial. Oh, that's sneaky. Well, actually, it does have vampire in the title, the one I was thinking of, and it also shares a title with a Doctor Who episode. Oh, it also doesn't help me. That one was in Italy? Yes, you close. Yeah, yeah. In Italy? Mm hmm. Oh, gosh, I can't remember the name. A vampire of Venice. Oh, I was thinking it was like an unknown so half caused, a vampire in Venice. Oh, that's a good one. i
00:09:40
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And then I thought, as archaeologists, do you remember what we we, if we find a vampire burial, what do we call these types of burials that are different? That one I know, it's a deviant burial. Deviant burial. There we go. Deviant burial, I got into my vampire. Counteracular.
00:10:02
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but Now this one I thought was quite a good one to do because it really summed up this episode. So episode 19, taverns. Do you remember what the difference was between tavern, a pub and an inn? of Okay, it was to do with whether you had lodging, whether you had food, whether you had drink. yes So the pub, no, an inn was with lodging and food and drink. A tavern was with food and drink and a pub was just drink.
00:10:38
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Yeah, well done. I feel like you can get three points. We talked about how pubs should actually be called taverns. Yeah, because you can get food at them. Yeah, exactly. And the next one is hordes. Now there was
Oldest Mirror and Cultural Significance
00:10:53
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a lot of stuff we could have gone into with the hordes one, but I thought I'd keep it simple. It's really not simple. Do you remember what Ejune was talking about with hordes? And do you remember what maybe the classification of a horde was?
00:11:05
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Oh, i yeah yeah I do because it's too it's in the title. Two or more objects. Yeah, well done. Or like deposited together. Yes, exactly. that yeah that was ah But then then we could expand it out further as well as we did in the episode. So please listen to that one if you haven't. Episode 21 and 22 was very good. And then Damsel's are our latest episode.
00:11:28
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One of. Episode 23, Damsels in Distress. what Was there a difference between gender archaeology and feminist archaeology? Yes, but there was also a lot of overlap, but yeah, feminist archaeology was looking at archaeological interpretation through a feminist lens, so striving more for the sort of gender equality and other sort of feminist ideals, whereas gender equality isn't necessarily focused on that side, it's more looking just at the past through the perspective of gender.
00:11:59
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Well done. um Yeah. I think that was one of the most recent of ones. Yeah. I actually don't know how many go out there. I didn't even count. Didn't like ticket or anything. I think I'll just do one point. That's okay. And then you got many points. well um Okay, great. as Well, so now it's my turn. Give me a few minutes. Just need to ah edit and update my questions and and we'll be right back.
00:12:25
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Welcome back, everyone. So, Ash, are you
Historical Context of Taverns and Inns
00:12:28
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ready to see how much you can remember? Hit me. Wait, what? No, not literally till you put the sword down. Oh, sorry, sorry automatic reaction. Right, OK. So I went through and did, of course, all of the episodes that you didn't ask me questions on. So first of all, we're going all the way back to episode two, which was looking at golems and object agency.
00:12:52
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Again, I've now added two questions in. Let's do that. So first of all, can you remember what is the kind of origin point or like what cultural origin is the myth of the golem?
00:13:08
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It's Jewish. It is. It's Jewish folklore. Exactly. yeah Very good. So I thought, you know, an easy one to get you started. And then another one. Can you remember one of the earliest written fictional accounts of golems? Absolutely not. Absolutely not. um The 1400s.
00:13:31
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I don't know. I'm thinking more novels. Yes. No. I thought it may be where it's the golden. Oh, dear. 1915 by Gustav Mayrink. No, I definitely didn't remember that. See, this is my memory is like a sieve. So this is not going to be very good. but consider be Great for quizzes.
00:13:58
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And there's just like something I hyper fix it on, like absolutely nothing. I can tell you every single thing about the Sims, but can I tell you like why yesterday? and No. That's like we see this meme for it's like, oh great, I can remember all of the lyrics to Summer of 69, but I can't remember. it is on my topic list Yeah.
00:14:18
Speaker
yeah yeah Okay. So next one, we're going to episodes four and five, which was about werewolves with our werewolf specialist, David Ian Howe. So werewolves are one of the most common examples of the kind of humans turning into animals mythology strain. But can you name two other animals that were discussed during the episode that are also associated with this kind of mythology and this legend in other parts of the world?
00:14:46
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Oh my,
New Archaeology Concept Quiz
00:14:48
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what are these questions? A dragon. Do you want me to give you the the parts of the world? Yes. So i the ones I came up with were in Africa, in the Arctic.
00:15:02
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A polar bear? Yes, that's right. And a lion? Well, I think they're probably worse than for a lion. No. A leopard? Different species. Oh, God. Elephant.
00:15:20
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A wet elephant. but but There's a romance novel out there. I need to write that book. Can you imagine? Oh, blast. Oh, no, it's a fool. What would it be? I don't know. I don't know. You've come across so a but like a watering hole and suddenly it's like a puddle. where Every time I step in a puddle. Oh, no.
00:15:42
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That would be a brilliant book. Oh, that sounds good, right. I think, if I say, I don't know. Hyena. Oh, Hyena. Oh, that makes sense. Yeah, right. I was just going to the Lion King to be fair. Me a cat, or a dog. I was like, what? What animals were the, you know, Simba's reveal?
00:16:08
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All right, so moving on. Are we moving forward or are we moving backwards? Because we're going to episode eight, which was our time travel episode. So we talked about a couple of different ways that you might be able to ascertain whether an object that was kind of obtained through time travel was genuine. Can you name me one of those ways? Were you carbon yeah yeah dating? I have dating or age. Yeah. looking so Do you want to go for bonus points and see if you can remember any of the other things we talked about? Like work? Like if it's been worked? No? I think we sort of mentioned that in passing, yeah, as a thing. There were sort of three main kind of points that we covered, I guess, would be saying. Hmm.
00:16:59
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yeah go
00:17:02
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It's not great when you're in a quiz.
00:17:08
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No, I will skip that feel like I need a countdown. So we looked at also things like sort of style or depiction, you know, like what's actually, yes and also the material or the content of like the thing. So like different paints. and Yeah, all right.
00:17:32
Speaker
Oh my goodness. It was very vague, it was a very vague question. Okay, moving on to the next episodes, which are episodes 9 and 10, where we were joined by the wonderful Alex Fitzpatrick to talk about dragons and zoo archaeology. So this one, ah oh yeah, well, we'll see. What material, so this is an archaeological one, what material is the earliest 3D depiction of a dragon made from?
00:17:59
Speaker
Stone? Mm-hmm. And can you narrow that down to a specific kind of stone?
Magic Use in Skeletal Remains
00:18:05
Speaker
Do you mean like the type of stone? The type of stone. Sandstone? Lime? Stone? No. Change? Yes! Change! Yes! Bonus point. Finally. Can you, for an extra, extra bonus point, can you remember where it was found? Absolutely not.
00:18:29
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It comes back to the Hongshan culture of Neolithic Mongolia. Oh, there we go. Learn a new thing. I was about to say you learn a new thing every day. You re-learn things that you've already learnt before every day. I really do. I'm going to say I really do. I'm surprised I brush my teeth most days.
00:18:47
Speaker
There's definitely be some days, especially I go i get to like lunchtime and I'm like, I feel like there's something I'm missing. And it's like, oh, I'm still in my pyjamas. Great. Yeah, I'm actually... Tell you don't even laugh, I'm in the pajama bums. And the thing is, I've dropped my kids off and everything, right? They've like, sent them off, you know, and other things. Like, oh god, okay, anyway. um So now we're moving on to episode 13. Okay. Where, if you remember, we had to help some wizards who were having a bit of a fireball argument. Yes. And teach them all about different archaeological theories.
00:19:22
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So I want to ask you, in what decades did the kind of theory of post-process realism first emerge in archaeology? It was 70s. 60s and 70s, right? Yeah. 70s, 80s. Yeah. Well done. Well done. Well done. Very good. Yes. Ding, ding. You got it. The theory, you got done practice. I learned that in a first-year university. There you go. I think I did as well, actually. Yeah, I think it is. It was like second, maybe. No, I'm sure. Like for me, I'm pretty sure it was Kenny Brophy at Glasgow University telling us about this. And he had all his pictures of like Gordon V Child and everything. Oh, yes, we had Gordon Noble was us and Aberdeen Uni, and he was sharing them as well. He also used to put pictures of Lego in all of his presentations. He was slightly obsessed with Lego. So there always used to be some random Lego memes in the presentations, which kept us involved.
00:20:15
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Yeah, there was always a picture of Hodder and Oz, Hodder Hunt. That's what we used to do. I think I've totally developed. All right, so and getting there. We're going to winnily winnily done. Okay. So you got then episode 20 is the next one I'm going to chat about, which was all about magic mirrors. Magic mirror. And my question to you is, what is the oldest mirror that's ever been found made from? I know I have a lot of material-based ones in here, I'm sorry about that.
00:20:43
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ah Glass? Glass? Sort technically? Polish stone. Well, a mixture of the two, I would say.
00:20:58
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Does that give a hint? It confuses me even more, for some reason. People are always screaming at me right now, like, oh my God, I do not remember this. You literally talked about it. And I'd be like, boom. I'll give you a clue. I distinctly remember telling an anecdote about my time at a certain famous Turkish archaeological site where I experienced one of these objects. Name drop. Right. Jaddle high.
00:21:29
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I don't know if that helps. I know I tell a lot of long anecdotes so it might not help. He told me this times. as do do So it's a combination of brewing glass and stone. So it looks like a polished something.
00:21:47
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Yes. Oh my god. but dont know Oh no! I'm too bloodstone, lithic, kind of flint. You're gonna kick yourself. Oh no. Because you're saying all the right things. Oh, just tell me. Obsidian. Obsidian for God's sake. I hate myself. You're dating to around 8,000 before present in Anatolia, so modern.
00:22:16
Speaker
I would do that. I hate myself. I feel it in my gut. I'm like, oh, gosh. Okay. Last question. We're nearly there. Until you've one ended already. This was our last episode two weeks ago. Not that I'm saying you need to remember it. but
00:22:39
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Just saying. Okay, and technically it was only one week ago because we're recording this week in class.
Axes in Prehistory from Episode 15
00:22:46
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Although to be fair, we recorded the other one a couple of weeks ago. so Anyway, yeah so that episode was all about magic and how to recognize magic in the archaeological record. So how would, hypothetically, you be able to tell from skeletal remains which hand someone one had held their wand in?
00:23:03
Speaker
I mean, he could have marks, muscle. Yes. Yeah. There we go. That's what I want. Muscle attachments. That's a key word. Yeah. Yes. Muscle growth pathology. Yes.
00:23:21
Speaker
And do you know why I remember that? Because someone in our book club brought it up. Yes! Which actually... Oh, where's my... yeah We should say, Svenja, one of our amazing book club members, yeah who is a gladiatrix, which is just like... Very cool. Awesome. and We should totally have her on at some point. Yeah, Svenja, are you listening? Are you listening? Can I come on? Yes, we should totally have Svenja on at some point, which, you know, to talk about gladiators and fighting. Oh my God, fighting! we I mean, fantasy. We definitely have to have her on at some point. Oh, yeah, definitely. She'll listen.
00:23:50
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come Come chat with us about things. That would be nice. Where is it? Her her message. Here it is. So yeah, she said, you know, listen to the latest episode. She said she loved it. It's fantastic. She didn't. I'm bit. I'm implying it from her message. um where we're told We were talking about the bones of archers, where you can see that they used like one arm to draw the string of the boweler. And she says that similar traces on bones have been found on gladiators from aphasos. So by having extensive sword training, they appeared to have something similar to a tennis arm So, you know, you can find that a lot from, from those kinds of things. She also said you can find out so much from bones. They also did an analysis of trace chemicals and stable isotopes to find out what they ate and saw traces of healed wounds. So, you know, that was very cool. Very, very cool. So yes. So I got that one, right? Yes, you did. Yes.
00:24:41
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Oh no, hang on, I missed a question. Next question is episode 15 and 16 where we had Dr. Amber Roy talking to us about axes. So this one should should be a nice easy one.
00:24:58
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see that I'm just going to say, if you get this wrong, then I might judge you. I feel like I mean i am judging myself already. so So what method did Amber Roy suggest could be used to determine the past use of a prehistoric stone dwarvish axe?
00:25:18
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What, in my career? Yeah! There we go. Do you know what I mean? I would have definitely done it. Because I have the one and all about my career every single episode. I do be honest, I thought about like playing it out a little bit more, but I didn't. I want the point.
00:25:37
Speaker
I think. Do I got two points then? Two points, the last one and the first one. um I suddenly thought I should have done a bonus question on Terry Pratchett. You could do one now if you wanted. I can't think of one, hang on. Okay and actually even though I have now said that I've forgotten one question, I forgot that one question and had to come back to it, I've just realised that I think I asked one less question than you did.
00:26:04
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So I'm going to give you a bonus question. And I'm making this up off the top of my head right now. And you know what? I'm even going to give you double points for it if you get it right. Don't pity me, Tim. Can you? I know. I know how you can get the two points. So first of all, can you guess what this question might allude to?
00:26:30
Speaker
Tilly, is this a riddle? What's going on? What might be the topic of my question? What, Terry Pratchett? Yeah! OK, right.
00:26:44
Speaker
Of course. Because I thought this will be the one episode where he isn't brought in in some way. Great, so you just shoehorn him in. Why not?
00:26:56
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So yes, my question is, what is the name of the, for want of a better word, planet or or world that Terry Pratchett's largest series of books are based in. Discworld. Yeah, well done. You got it. You got it. Okay, I've got a question for you then, Tilly. Oh, boy. All right, this is not for any points because you've got too many already. So, in Lord of the Rings, who could we classify as an archaeologist? The wizards.
00:27:33
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Yeah, but who is the first archaeological wizard of Middle-earth? Saruman? Yes, well done. Saruman. Yeah, because I remember we talked about that with Adrian. Yeah, we did. It was really cool. It was a good one. its a good but Well, I'm really curious to see who
Quiz Reflection and Tiebreaker
00:27:54
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remembered the better. I think I know.
00:27:57
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Well, let's tally up the scores and share that final answer and results. Don't be too nice to me, by the way, because I definitely got a lot wrong. I think you were nicer to me than I was. Tilly, you did not. You really did very well. i mean
00:28:13
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Okay, so I've finished scoring your answers. And I've finished yours, so let's see how we both did. Shall I go? Shall I go? Yeah. you and So I and asked you 11 questions. and Technically I asked you 12 because I did ask you about the Lord of the Rings question. ah But you got 8 out of 11.
00:28:39
Speaker
Are you kidding? Yeah. I'm not kidding. That's what you got. What? Eight out of 11. No, I did not. I was rubbish. No, you did. You got eight. I did not. And I was even like, ah harsh and didn't give you the ones that you were like, um but stone. Yeah. So you didn't get that one. You got eight. That includes the Terry Pratchett question.
00:29:04
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I think I should get a double bonus because of the were elephants, to be honest. I feel like that's a really good idea. That's so rare. Yeah, I'm amazed that you knew that one. Even I didn't know that one. But were elephants really need to brush up on your mythology. Shouldn't really tell David about that. I know. By the way, David, you forgot to talk about the were elephants. The were elephants are really important, actually. Sorry. That's so funny. But you see, that just goes to show, you know, both of us thought that we hadn't remembered anything, but actually, like, yeah, surprising amount. Those two, you technically got nine though, because of the Lord of the Rings one, but I didn't see you. Well, you technically got nine out of 12 as well, because you had the double points for the Discworld. Guess who I was going to talk about, Derry Brat.
00:29:51
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good you know um um car nice very sweet I mean, oh we should have had some backup tiebreak questions. Maybe we should do a tiebreak question. Should we just do a spontaneous tiebreak question? Yeah, I think so. How do we do that though?
00:30:08
Speaker
Should we ask each other a question? I've actually got a question that I didn't ask you. Okay. So this was episode 12. Episode 12. Which was... Which was... Can you pronounce it today? Kalach.
00:30:21
Speaker
Kyeth. Kyeth. Kyeth. Yeah, it was the Kyeth, right? And I was going to ask you, what did her husband ask us to give to her and why did she want it? I actually remember this. We were supposed to give the dirty washing. Yes. Because when she... Hang on, God. Now, this part I can't quite remember. I can't remember if it's when she does the washing and hangs it out to dry, then that means spring's coming.
00:30:48
Speaker
So when she washes it and it turns white, it means that winter will continue a bit. Yeah. Oh, it means it continue a bit. Yeah. So she will be forever in winter. Yeah. She'd throw her cloak over the, or her plaid over the hills of Scotland and Ireland and continue to be winter forever.
00:31:06
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So she had that she was devious, wasn't she? She was devious. Yeah, well, you got you got a point for that, so... Oh, exciting. Yeah. Then I will look at the... Hmm, which one shall I do? I'm looking back through our list of episodes to see you which one. Please go easy on me. I'm trying to think. Well, I don't want to do it too far back. Hang on, I'll go look at episode 13, because that was just after the one that you've done.
00:31:30
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Let's have a little look. What is another title that was used to refer to the theory of processual archaeology? What was it also referred to as? so hu
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Oh my God. Oh my God. I got you? I think you got me. I can't remember it.
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Oh my god, it's right there. Oh, Tilly. ah
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Do you want a clue? Oh, no. My pride won't take it.
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Like scientific? No. Well, I mean, it was more scientific. It was a scientific term, but that was like the term that was used. Oh, first year, Ashley's screaming at me. Oh, go on. Just put me up my misery. It was an old archaeology. It was. It was a new archaeology. Oh, can't swear. Can't swear.
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Oh, that's so annoying. That's so annoying. I hate you, Tilly. I hate you. I should not have had a new plaid in comparison to new archaeology raging at myself. I'm sorry. Raging at myself.
Future Episodes and Listener Interaction
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I mean, technically I i only got like, by yours was a very vague question. Like, so I feel like you were nicer to me in terms of like the broadness of the answer I could provide, whereas my one was very specific.
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I still feel like we're pretty cool. Nah, nah, you won. You won. You won. I will but ah i bow to your knowledge. Your archaeological knowledge. I bow to it. Is it bowing to my archaeological knowledge or is it bowing to my wyliness in choosing horrendous questions? To be fair, you didn't choose horrendous questions. I just don't remember anything.
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And yes, if I ask you for, you know, all the main characters of, I don't know, what series or something, you'll probably be like... Oh, yeah. If you ask me to tell you every single cast member of The Mummy 1999, I will ask you to know that. Unfortunately. ah Yeah, maybe it is more important than new archaeology. Yeah, right. I mean, we need to know that stuff. Yeah, nobody needs to know that. What would be, out of curiosity, what would be your like mastermind subject? I was actually thinking about that when you asked me questions because I felt like I was on mastermind for a sec. It would... Oh, that's a really good question. I think it actually would be The Sims.
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Okay, yeah, I don't know why but it's like the Sims like franchise just sticks right in my head I could probably name you nearly every expansion pack in order which is well I've played it since I was 11, so yeah. What about you, Terry Pratchett? Probably Terry, I was thinking this, because it would have definitely, back in the day, it would have been primates, because I knew anything and everything about primates. But it's been a while since I've kind of kept up to date. like I used to know all the scientific names, I used to know all the like, yeah, I used to know pretty much everything. But yeah, probably Discworld would be the most likely one.
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But it does make me realise how much, i know I know a lot about a lot of subjects, but not enough about one subject, you know what I mean? Like it's sort of, I'm not so necessarily super specialised in one thing, I just have very vague like shallow understandings of lots of things. So, which... Yeah, no, i'm i' I get hyper fixated on things quite quite quickly, and I become obsessed with them, and then I disappear. Actually, I was just thinking as well, movie soundtracks.
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Oh yeah. Yeah, i'd be um I'm very good at movie soundtracks. I actually, I make my partner play that all the time because I know how to win. a I guess the soundtrack. Guess the movie soundtrack. Oh for God's sake. I even did it in an archaeological dig. I was like, I'm going to play these movie soundtracks. Actually. Do you mean like classical or do you mean like Bridget Jones? Oh no, not even, but like, yeah, any of them. Yeah, all of them.
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Usually it's from like 1990,
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2015. So if you play them, I'm usually like, Oh, wait, okay. Or Jane Austen, actually, I used to be very good at knowing all the characters and all the, so I did win a pub quiz. I got, only yeah, Jane Austen, but it was all about Jane Austen and it was an archive. It was like on an archaeological dig.
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on And ever all there was a team of lads and a team of girls and we were like, yeah! And the lads were like, why are these questions? I hate them. be My favourite ever quiz anecdote is when I was like 12 or 13 and it was the last day of school and we were playing one of those games where you had to listen to music and basically you'd be given the clue and then you had to sort of bet how little of the song you needed to hear to hear in order to guess it. And whichever team like bet the lowest, they got to listen to it and guess first. See, I'm really bad at betting. Well, we were we were neck and neck. And then it was the last one. And we were tied. And the theme was and I was so rubbish. shit I knew nothing about like modern popular music. I was really out of date. And the clue was ABBA, which I was like, guys, I got this. so Worry bet as low as you want we can do this and I think it was something ridiculous like one second or you know Of the song that you needed to hear to and I got it. What was it? It was ah What was it? I think it was the name of the game or something like that, but it's just because they have such
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the cause is just so recognisable. And I just used to listen to Abba on repeat at that time. So yeah, that was my that was my moment of fame being super uncool as a 12, 13 year old and knowing that Abba won me that Chris. and My team was so happy.
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that's very cool see if i'm ever in a quiz and some it's like not people that i know from archaeology or any kind of sphere and um the history question comes up i hate when people look at me they're like oh you should know this and i mean no i don't i don't know anything about world war two like please don't ask him this question i'll tell you about you know the paleolithic yeah i'll talk about that
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But will I talk about anything else? No. I have no clue. Where an emperor's noob, like ancient Egyptian pharaohs, noob. No idea. No. Unless it relates to the mummy 1989. I don't know anything. Which case have we got this? It's alright guys.
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i' got problem
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Well, I think that that's about it for this little special edition of ah and my trial celebrating 25 episodes, which is very, very exciting. We hope that you enjoyed this episode. How many questions did you get right? Let us know in our APN discord chat. The server link is in our show notes or send us a message on our Instagram. We are excited. Yeah, we'll be very interested to hear how how many people got right. And in two weeks' time, we'll be back again with another quest. So keep an eye out for that. As always, if you have any suggestions for topics for future episodes, if you have any feedback or comments on past episodes as well, we're always very happy to hear them. Do get in contact with us via email or social media, all of our contact info. And we don't have any references today, but usually further reading, et cetera, can be found in the show notes.
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guests or something. to like Oh yeah, we can bring our old guests back on. Oh my God, we do a leisure and we'll be like, can you remember what we talked about? We'll be no.
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I'd be like, sorry, who are you? I don't know who you are. What's your name? What's your name? Do I know you? Are you talking about Lord of the Rings and Terry Pratchett all the time? Yeah, I thought you were a archaeologist. Anyway, bye everyone. Bye!
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This episode was produced by Chris Webster from his ah RV traveling the United States, Tristan Boyle in Scotland, Dig Tech LLC, Cultural Media, and the Archaeology Podcast Network, and was edited by Rachel Rodin. This has been a presentation of the Archaeology Podcast Network. Visit us on the web for show notes and other podcasts at www.archpodnet.com. Contact us at chris at archaeologypodcastnetwork.com.