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Is Your Bow Even Stabilized – Earl Stroh – Cutter Stabilizer
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This week Drew has Earl Stroh from Cutter Stabilizer on the podcast to talk about building a stabilizer company from the ground up and how to make an old product better for todays hunter. Drew and Earl talk about Cutter Stabilizer and they also dive deep into archery hunting set ups and good ole archery hunting. This is a good podcast to listen to if you’re and archery hunter or want to be an archery hunter. @cutterstabilizersofficial
CUTTER STABILIZER
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TRICER USA
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Transcript
Introduction to Tricer Podcast
00:00:01
Speaker
You are listening to the Tricer Podcast, where we talk all things hunting, gear, and the great outdoors. Before we begin, let's start things out right and put God first.
Spiritual Invocation for Listeners
00:00:10
Speaker
Lord Jesus, I thank you for Tricer, and I ask that you can use this podcast as a way to bring joy to all of our listeners. We lay Tricer and this podcast at your feet. Amen.
Meeting Earl Stroll at TAC Event
00:00:23
Speaker
Next up everybody, another another fun one. One of the cool things about doing like all these shows we do and these TAC events is just meeting like really like-minded people and other entrepreneurs. And so when I was up at TAC in Utah, I met Earl Stroll with Cutter Stabilizer. He's about to shoot around attack with TAC with him, hang out with to him and his girlfriend. And they're just people who I definitely would share fire with. And I'm a very like-minded dude who's just busting his hump to create some bitchin' products.
Guest Introduction: Earl Stroll
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So Earl, how you doing?
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Doing really well, thanks for having me on, I appreciate it. Yeah, man, I'm excited to have you on
Challenges of a Small Hunting Company
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it. Just like even getting to shoot with you guys and see what you're doing, it it was encouraging to see that and see you guys are like, like so many of us in this industry, I mean, there are these behemoths, right? There are these sitcoms and these couyous. Most of us are just like dudes trying to make it, right? Like I had a guy get pissed off at me. Like you you don't return my message on Facebook fast enough. And I'm like, dude, there's only four of us, you know?
Innovations by Cutter Stabilizer
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Like it's, it's, it's hard when you're, when you are,
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Speaker
When you are marketing, shipping, everything, it's a it's hard, man. People don't see what you're going through to do it. You're really making some really cool stuff. I'm excited to have you on to talk about it because there's a lot of companies making stabilizers, but you guys really are kind of pioneering some stuff with some micro-diameter
Origin Story of Cutter Stabilizer
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stuff. and some You have some new stuff coming out, like a new bipod type thing for all tripods.
00:01:49
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bows so Yeah, dude, tell me about Cutter. When do you start that thing? Yeah, so basically started Cutter in 2019. It sort of started as just a passion project type thing, right? Something that I grew up in the bow hunting world and always kind of wanted to achieve that, how do I make money doing this thing that I'm passionate about? And like I said, Cutter just kind of started really small and It actually picked up traction super quick and it was kind of like I and didn't have a choice to to keep it going. you know The growth was so crazy and I think people were just just getting behind it because like you said, you know it was starting the dream of figuring out how to how to make money in this this hunting world that that we're so passionate about. and you know Having a good product was a big part of it.
00:02:43
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And we are very, very diligent upon like testing the products before we bring them to market. So all of our products have been through so much testing and that's like field time, right? So like actually being out there hunting and using the products that we have, that's that's kind of a big piece of why we're so successful and why we've grown as fast as we have is we're hunters just like our customers.
00:03:09
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Yeah, dude. And that really makes a difference too,
Supporting Small Companies
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right? I feel like a lot of these big bow companies or rifle companies, they've kind of gone like venture capital style, right? And they're kind of just making things that are going to be gimmicky or and they're not necessarily hunting. I mean, they are hunting products, but it's not like you get a guy like you who's got a fresh set of eyes. It's not just thinking about bottom line and creating good gear.
00:03:33
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It's easy
Passion to Business in Bow Hunting
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to get behind you. And that's one thing I've realized with the hunting industry and with my customers is like, they want to see you succeed. Like there's not many dudes out like, do we all want to see like, I know for me, for sure. Like I want to see Earl like full time doing cutter stabilizers and hunting all the time and just creating bitch and stuff. And like, it's good. It's cool to get behind that because we all want that dream. I think it's like, I bet you almost everybody listening to this podcast, like their dream job is getting to like, do what you're doing right now, you know? Yeah, for sure.
00:04:03
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And I think it's it's helped a lot because, you know, previous to Cutter, I was pretty much a full-time bow tech. So like I worked in that that archery world with tuning bows, setting up bows, suggesting and recommending products for for people to to use.
Earl's Expertise in Archery
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And all of that experience kind of came together with a little bit of manufacturing experience. And that's kind of what what led to to cutter is the Botec stuff mixed with some machine shop stuff. And that's that's why we're able to to kind of make that happen and put out such a good product.
00:04:41
Speaker
Yeah, man, it's very evident like when you see it and talk to you. um I bought a new Hoyt this year, so it's got all the integrated stuff in it, right? So I don't have your stabilizers on there, but I got my partner, a bow, Warrior of Attack, a new bow, because he was shooting this freaking whisk. You shot him with them this whisker biscuit. like I don't even know what this bow was. I got it at Walmart like 15 years ago. I have no idea. But it was embarrassing for me. You can't own Tricer and be walking out of that bow.
00:05:06
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um So I bought him id actually trained a bunch of stuff. trade um Traded a bow from a guy who owns the bow hitch, Armando, and then I went and got some sights and other stuff. I wanted to talk to you, just because like after shooting with you, like you took his bow
Customer Experience with Cutter
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and you're like, oh, put acu board was like put a 12.8 on this thing and put this weight, this weight, and this weight. And I picked it up and it was like, holy smokes, it's level.
00:05:30
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like you just It was so evident that you were a Botek and you understand archery. and That was so neat for me to see that. and I was like, dude, I want to support this guy like however I Yeah, that's a part of it, right, is is it offering experience and expertise. you know you're You're not only paying for the product, but you're paying for the knowledge behind the product. and you know That's true with a lot of stuff in in the trade world. is you know, for good custom, you know, blue collar type work. Like you pay a lot of money and it's not only because of the materials, it's also because of the time that it took that person to learn that skillset to provide that service. And you know, that's, that's no different in the hunting industry, you know, and it's, it took a while to figure out what these products had to be and had how durable they had to be, how adjustable, how lightweight and tough they all had to be to be
00:06:27
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in the category that they are, which is a premier top of the line product. Yeah. and like One thing I really thought was kind of cool and like kind of humbling is you're still going down and putting a day in the bow shop like every week. Yeah. Definitely. i mean It's fun. you know it's It's all my buddies over there and it's pretty easy to to spend a bunch of time in the bow shop just hanging out. and I think it's important that I do keep kind of that that presence in that local space because we're we're lucky that the shop that we have here in Denver, it's called No Limits Archery, it's it's a badass shop. like You got 40 yards indoor, you got 105 yards outdoor with a bunch of 3D targets and 4x4 blocks outside. like that's It's cool and not to mention you know the 2000 square foot pro shop. like it's
00:07:20
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it's a destination for people to go
Local Bow Shops vs Big Stores
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to for sure. So being able to to stay in there and kind of keep my face around and you know hang out with my friends, it's it's awesome. it's It's a cool place. so Yeah, man, I can't emphasize enough using your local bow shop over I don't want to bash like big over some of these big name companies or buy stuff online. like There's something we said about having in a good local boat shop where you know the guys. and like something I have yet to go to one. We have like three in San Diego. I have one that I go to all the time.
00:07:54
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But I've yet to go into a bow shop where they're just like a bunch of dickheads. like i Normally it's just dudes like you that want to hang out and talk. And like my poor wife, dude, like if she'd we'd share our vacation, right? If she sees him in the bow shop, I'm probably going to be there for three or four hours because it's like almost going to the bar. You're just like sitting there and your buddy's hanging out and talking. I'll walk in there for a... I always make an excuse to stop by. I'll just stop by. I need a windicator. I'll be in there for four hours just kicking back with the owner Bruce and my friends. and and Then every time you go in there, someone else walks in the door and you're just like telling stories and just having fun, talking shop. Yeah, it's it's easy to do. and i mean this this is our This is what we're passionate about. so it's It's very easy to to start talking and then
00:08:38
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A lot of times, unfortunately, it leads to spending a bunch of money when you didn't really even know you needed anything, but I mean, that's that's all part of the fun, right? Yeah, I mean, I guess, like I ended up buying, I bought a flagship last year, I ended up buying another one this year, which I told myself I never would do. But it's hard not to spend money when you're friends with the guys, right? And like, I will definitely go spend money down there, over going down to like, we have a sportsman's warehouse down the street over here. Like, I don't go there and buy stuff, even if I can save 10 or 15%, because I'd rather buy it from my buddies and and support those guys, support local boat shops. So that should be a sticker, support local boat shop. I probably already out there, but that's for sure.
00:09:17
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And you also, I mean, like you're still doing all this. If you still have like at your house, do you have like a bow press and all that stuff that your house still like a draw board and like, are you doing everything on your own bows still? Yeah. So I actually have it here, um, at the cutter shop. I mean, you might, you could probably see it just set up over there. We got it all set up and I got the draw board. I got a press. I got a saw paper tuning jig. I got the whole thing.
00:09:44
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Really? Yeah, we're going, my buddy Joey, we call him, I call him Joe Tech. We're going elk hunting next weekend in Colorado. We're going OTC. He's actually bringing like a draw board, bringing everything with him because it's like if something goes wrong, he has it there to do it. So he's kind of like, he actually just got an archery like two years ago. And shout out to Joey. He's going to listen to this, I'm sure.
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um He's just gone like headlong into it. like i I do my own arrows and
Enhancing Hunting Experience through Equipment
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stuff, you know what I mean? But like when it comes to messing with cams, like I don't want nothing to do with it. like I'm like, bring it to the bow shop or bring it to Joey. But Joey's figured it out. And there's something cool about it. it's something like ah I love reloading. like I've been reloading for probably over a decade now. um It's very similar to reloading. When you work on your own bow and you do your own arrows and clutch your arrows, and yous something you feel more a part of it. Like when I like when i shit like i shot and shot a pig in Hawaii last week,
00:10:34
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um It was with my arrows, you know what I mean? That I built, like that's kind of cool all the time into it. I think when you know your equipment they're that good, it makes you a better hunter. For sure. that is That's a cool comparison with the with the reloading stuff.
00:10:49
Speaker
Cause it's at the end of the day, like reloading is very simple, right? You're following a recipe and you're doing the exact same thing every single time. You know, working on bows is kind of like that because 99% of the time there's a quote unquote recipe that you follow to get a bow in tune. And sometimes it's just not overthinking it in your own head to get that bow to tune. You know, you got to check these,
00:11:17
Speaker
several different bullet points to get it in tune, and then that's pretty much all there is to it. But knowing the recipe is super important. I want to talk a bunch about bows, but we definitely want to talk about your
Performance and Design of Cutter Stabilizers
00:11:30
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stuff too. So let's talk about yourself first. So cutter stabilizers, exactly what it sounds like. You build like probably the most fitting stabilizers in the industry now.
00:11:39
Speaker
A lot of guys build stabilizers, probably, I'll let you know, 40 people, I don't know how people, a lot of people build stabilizers. It's just a carbon fiber tube with some weights on it. Why is yours different? Why is yours better?
00:11:53
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So one thing that we really wanted to make sure that we were able to accomplish was take every material, piece, part, component, process, piece of labor, everything, and source it from within the United States so we don't outsource or import anything. So even all the way down to the very last screw is coming from within the country here.
00:12:14
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um take that and we went with a micro diameter carbon tube, so sub half inch. So same idea as shooting a micro diameter arrow, right? It's gonna perform better in the crosswind, which when we're at full draw on a target and the wind's blowing like crazy, we want our pin to sit in the middle where we want it to hit, right? If the wind's blowing it all over, that's really hard to do. So shrinking that outside diameter kind of decreases that resistance.
00:12:42
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um Something you'll see a lot with other micro diameter bars is they'll have the small tube, but then they'll have a great big rubber or vibration dampener on the outside of the bar. So we have this big thing again, that's going to catch wind. We took that and we put it inside of our carbon tube. So all that vibration damping material is inside of that super small carbon tube. What that does, it keeps the bar, the weight overall super duper light.
00:13:09
Speaker
and keeps the structure of the bar super strong. So we have the lightest possible carbon bar that we we can build basically to make that weight work more efficiently. So rather than making the bow heavier for no reason, we're making the weight that we do have on the bow work for us and make it stabilize the bow, which at the end of the day, that's that's the goal of a stabilizer is to help us aim better and balance the bow more efficiently.
00:13:35
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and Are you building only hunting stuff or you're also doing target stuff? No. So we do a full target lineup as well. So we got the hunting lineup, which we do a six inch, eight, 10, 12, and 15. And then target stuff, which is a little bit of a stiffer carbon, because generally you're going to use a little bit more weight for for a target setup. So we do that from 12 inch all the way out to 30 inch for the target stuff.
00:14:01
Speaker
Really? And then you make what separates your back bars because I'd pretty much think like if you're going to shoot a bow now you need a back bar. Like a back bar just sets that bow down and stabilizes your bow. I'm a big like once I started using a back bar it was just like I feel like it just there's something about like it's almost like putting a um A plumb bob, you don't hang a plumb bob from the ceiling. That weight of a bow stabilizes that bow out for you, left to right versus the front way front to back. That back bar really helps me out a ton. You guys say back bar as well, correct? We do. We have a full lineup of mounting solutions.
00:14:42
Speaker
So we have our front quick disconnect, which will let you you know take the bow, the bar on and off. Oh, we should talk about that. We need to talk about that too. Yeah. We need to talk about that too. That's slick, but it's the back bar. Yeah. Go ahead. Sorry. Yeah. So the back bar bracket, um we're basically just getting ready by the time this podcast comes out, it'll probably be released already, but we made a few revisions to our back bar bracket to make it even better.
00:15:06
Speaker
So essentially, if you haven't used a back bar on your bow before, what it's doing is it's getting rid of all of the input from your hand that you have to put into the grip of the bow to level it, right? We have our bubble level in the site.
00:15:21
Speaker
um Hand torque is not repeatable. We can't do the same thing with our hand every single time. So we're putting that weight on the other side of the boat to not only offset our accessories, you know left to right, but we have that forward to backward balance as well. So especially when you're shooting uphill or downhill you've You've probably seen it your pin will get stuck Below the target and you always have to push that pin up to get it into the target Just just how gravity works, right? It's always pulling down so we can make that bow perform exactly how we want Not only left to right but also up and down So like I put a bunch of weight on my back bar to help push that pin up into the target So I don't have to fight so hard to keep that pin where it should be Yeah, and um
00:16:09
Speaker
I was a
Customizable Stabilizer Systems
00:16:10
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pet all around. Now, another cool feature is your quick disconnect because that was a slick thing. Is that not kind of stock or is that an upgrade? I can't remember. So you're all kind of pieced together separately. So there's lots of companies that do like the pre built kits, essentially. My thought with that was I didn't want to limit the options. Like you can pick any length bar for front and back.
00:16:35
Speaker
you could piece it together to be exactly what you want. And then the back bar bracket is separate as well. So that's what will allow you to adjust the angle. So you know you're in and out, you're up and down with that back bar to get it to do what you need to.
00:16:50
Speaker
um And our bracket is a little different than the other ones that are out there because it uses a system that's very similar to like a CV axle on a vehicle. So it's splined. So once you lock it down, there's there's no moving. it's It's constantly gonna stay where you set it. Because generally if your back bar moves, it's not gonna be when you're standing on the range shooting by the truck. It's gonna be when you're two miles from the truck and you don't know where it is and then you lose your confidence in your setup.
00:17:20
Speaker
Oh, my background moves all the time because I'm a big fan of like crawling with my bow and stuff. that's what i That's why that part moves on me. and I'm like, oh, I'm close enough. Just pulled this back a little bit. I know I moved it. Just bring it back a quarter inch or whatever. I need to take a silver marker and mark it so I can actually know where it is because, yeah, dude, i that's one thing. that's That's really neat to have a spline on there because i I need that right now because I do it all the time with my books. I use that. um Yeah, dude, we can we can get you taken care of.
00:17:48
Speaker
that site say I use that site saver, you know, the you can crawl through bugs in that. Yeah, those guys are really cool. But then like, yeah'll let those guys up there. Oh, they're super nice dudes. ah But I'll use that and then I'll push my bow down. ah And it's no way now. Push my back bar down. ah You're doing that. Are you guys only D to C or you guys in in retail? Well, as well, my bush ops.
E-commerce and Retail Strategy
00:18:14
Speaker
So we do, e-com was kind of how we got started. The goal was always to be kind of e-com with dealers. So we're in a bunch of different pro shops. And then the only like box store that we do is Shields, which is a little different than some of the other box stores because it's essentially when you break it down, it it's a pro shop funded by a box store, right? so like Shields is cool because they're sending their guys directly to the manufacturer for training, which which I thought was badass. There's a lot of pro shops that don't even do that. you know So that was kind of cool that we were able to link up with them.
00:18:55
Speaker
Yeah, we work with Shields as well, and they've been a phenomenal partner. I actually just flew back to South Dakota a couple weeks ago. I did a training with them on, like, how do you use a tripod? How do you, what is this for? And they really have kind of like taken over when it comes to, like they've got initial set in there, they've got some glacial, they've got a safaro in there. I mean, they've got like all the brands that I care about are in there. Or if I go to some of these other big, big box stores,
00:19:21
Speaker
Like I don't want to bag on real tree, but dude, I don't want to buy some bad land stuff for some real tree stuff. You know what I mean? I want to buy the stuff that the Western guys are using. and I want to buy the more CPL stuff. I want to buy the the cutter stabilizers, right? You know what I mean? Like I want to buy the they're they're selling the good stuff is my point. So.
00:19:36
Speaker
whatever, if you're using real trade, I'm sorry. I'm just saying, like, they, she'll, she'll just sell all the stuff that like three toners are using and they're selling it in there. And it's really cool to see them do that. And I don't know. It's been a push the last couple of years, but they've just like picked all of us up and just been a phenomenal partner to work with. Yeah. Yeah. They're cool. It's, you know, kind of my thought with, with the box store thing is like, we had the chance to get into Cabela's Bass Pro Sportsman's all that type of stuff, but you get a,
00:20:07
Speaker
You get a premium product in there and expect someone that's covering the archery department that normally works in the shoe department to sell your premium yeah product. They're they're not gonna know how. you know So then what happens is it ends up not selling. They put it on clearance, somebody sees it, and it's this top of the line product that's now on clearance that someone associates your good product with a shitty product because it's marked down. You know what I mean? Oh, I get it, man. like When I go to my local sportsman's, like I don't even ask anyone for help because you ask them and they don't know what they're talking about. When you go to Shields, they don't know what they're talking about. I shouldn't be bagging on sportsman, but it's the truth. It's like going to Walmart sometimes. You go to the Walmart or you go to Home Depot and you're asking for a public thing. Oh, dude. I worked at sportsman's. Yeah, exactly. You proved my point. Look at that.
00:20:56
Speaker
oh so du ah so D2C, so if I wanted to get you into my local bow shop, which I do, I would just go tell them, like, hey, you need to call my buddy Earl up, and you can get it, like, you you like looking at local shops too? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, um we're always looking for new dealers. I've got one of my good buddies that's that's handling all of the the dealer relations stuff, and he does the social media stuff. So um still, like like you, they're very few of us that are working on this thing right now. you know I'm still doing 90% of the daily operation stuff. But yeah, i mean you could give them my phone number, you can refer them to the website and there's ah there's a contact us thing that that we can get in contact and I'll send them send them all the dealer stuff that they need. um But yeah, i mean pro shops are are what's going to keep this keep this thing rolling, keep this industry going.
00:21:49
Speaker
and others a lot of bad information on the internet and you can really screw somebody up by sending them down that internet rabbit hole. Yeah, dude, so if you're listening to this podcast, like when I get off this podcast, I'm going to text my bow shop owner, and I'm going to text Earl at the same time, I'm not going to give you Earl's cell number, but text your bow shop owner, text him Earl's website, and be like, hey man, sign up for this, this guy is legit, and make rad gear, because they do make some of the best back bars and statewide industry, hands down.
New Product Launches
00:22:19
Speaker
Dude, so tell me about your your new stuff coming out, because there's some new cool stuff that I got to play with a little bit more out there.
00:22:28
Speaker
Yeah, so we're um it's always it's always fun to try to launch new stuff right before hunting season because there's not there's already enough shit going on. but um So we've got, like I mentioned, the new version of our back bar bracket. um That's going to be coming out.
00:22:47
Speaker
the versus stand is a universal bow stand. It's mounted to the front of the bow, um adjustable legs that you know extend just like a tripod. And you could actually set the bow down on the the legs and then your front bar and keep your cam out of the dirt.
00:23:06
Speaker
And the whole system is super light. it's It's less than five ounces. Like I shoot with mine on the bow all the time. It doesn't change how the bow balances. And then the legs unscrew for if you're throwing it in your case or on your pack and then you can can store them that way.
00:23:21
Speaker
Yeah, so he uses the he uses the front bar uses the front bar as a stabilizer as one of the legs of the tripod and the other two legs pulled out. So just imagine like a tractor tripod on the front of your bow. So you just kind of pull that thing down and you stand your bow up and nothing is in the dirt. Your cams aren't in the dirt. Nothing's in the dirt. It's just up in the air on this thing. It's pretty slick system. Yeah, they're sick. And I just, um so it was unfortunate because we launched this thing and then we had a material failure kind of like,
00:23:51
Speaker
right in the beginning, which it could have been worse. It could have been down the road. But essentially what we had to do is we had to pull this thing that was selling like crazy from the website, which kind of sucked. But at the end of the day, I don't want to sell a subpar product to anyone. So we had to kind of go back to the drawing board, figure out what was happening, and fix it. And like I took the new version out, Antelope Hunting, which I'm crawling around on the ground. you You're beating the crap out of your bow. It's bouncing around in the truck while you're driving on those two tracks. like That thing is good to go now, and it's it's awesome, and I'm stoked, and we're gonna we're going to bring them back this this coming weekend, the weekend of the 24th of August.
00:24:37
Speaker
That's awesome. And something I know about you guys too, similar to us, like if somebody has a failure, I guarantee you you're not like, oh, well that sucks. I guarantee you it hurts, like when somebody has a failure, it hurts me.
00:24:50
Speaker
Like it, I feel like I am responsible. Even though we've sold, I'm gonna be no 10,000 tripods this year or something. I don't know. It's stupid. Like if one fails, even though it's like point zero zero one, I'm like, dude, send it to my house. I'm going to give you a new tripod. I'm going to go and I'm going to continue an extra. Here's a hat or here's a by note after whatever. Cause like, I feel bad. So like if what happens is something, but we buy a stabilizer from you and that thing over time comes loose on us or something breaks. Cause it happens. I know it happens. It happens to everybody.
Lifetime Warranty and Customer Service
00:25:21
Speaker
Yeah, so that's one another thing about us is that we decided to warranty all of our stuff for life And I mean that's that's whatever you know I mean when you're out there hunting like shit happens you you slip and fall you fall on your bow um One of my buddies Brian from Eastman's he ended up flipping over his dirt bike and he had his bow in his backpack and he snapped his front bar off just like you never know what's gonna happen right like when you're out there and you're not really worried about taking the best care of your gear, you're worried about filling your tag. So getting to be able to focus on that and knowing that we have your back is is huge. And I mean, that's that's another another reason why people have kind of got on board is you know we we understand what it's like out there. We understand shit can get a little Western at times and we got your back.
00:26:15
Speaker
And what I tell my team is we have like team meetings, you know, once a week, I tell them people paid for a premium product from Tracer, even if they did something stupid, like fall off the dirt bike and break it. That's an expensive hit. Like I know if you're spending 500 bucks for a full Tracer set up, like Most dudes, that takes some saving to do, and it's expensive. like I want to take care of you and make sure you're okay as you do it. So even when we do have a failure, a lot of times those failure letters actually make us make customers more loyal than before, because we just say freaking go out of our way to help them. Because ah you make a commitment to buy one of my things, I want to help you out. Even if you do run it over in your truck and it's something boneheaded, I want to help you out.
00:26:55
Speaker
yeah Customer service goes a long way. Yeah. All right, so you can go to cutterstabilizers.com.
Cutter's Online Presence
00:27:02
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What's the website? Yep, cutterstabilizers.com. CutterStabilizers official is on the Instagram. Trying to do better with YouTube stuff too. Getting into the camera world is, it's been overwhelming. Me and you both, my friend. Me and you both. I like it though. That shit's fun.
00:27:24
Speaker
It's terribly expensive, which is the worst part. I'm just like, I would like to have one hobby that's not ridiculously expensive, but I don't know why I haven't found one yet because they're all expensive. I got into playing golf. Same thing. Fucking terribly expensive. Yeah, dude. I yeah i stopped doing golf.
00:27:45
Speaker
I started doing 3D shoots because I always say that 3D archery is like golf but not gay. So it's like it's like golf where you can like talk to people's back swings and like talk crap to your friends. So many people in golf are so serious. and like archeries it's very sos 3D archery is actually very very similar to golf. like it's like Normally it's like three or four of you and you're just talking smack, I don't fuck with your buddies. like It's a good time. But yeah, golf's a fun one, man.
00:28:11
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But ah yeah, dude, the the camera thing has been a killer for me. So I'm actually filming all my hunts this year. We're gonna put, actually put Tricer Films out this year. I'm actually paying a filmer to come with us. I have the nice cameras, but like for me to like, it honestly kind of ruins my hunts for me, me doing it myself.
00:28:29
Speaker
but I have like, I feel like every time I buy a camera and he gets another one, like I'm like, dude, I bought this camera, I got these lenses. And then you we have a mutual friend, Luke Duesenberry, and he's like, oh yeah, you get a full, frame my camera's on a full frame camera or whatever, it's only like a,
00:28:42
Speaker
partial frame, you know, so I need to go buy this. I'm just like, yeah I'm gonna get through this season with what I have. cause like Honestly, like I feel like for me, like Sony Handicam, which is like 1,200 bucks, is like the best thing. It's like the most retard-proof way to film hunts. My buddies that live in this outdoors use them for years in all their videos. like because the The biggest thing with content is getting the content. If you get too overcomplicated with like crazy cameras and crazy things, then you're not gonna get content. and like That's not good.
00:29:10
Speaker
ah you So with me, the Handicam, it's 4K. All I got to do is press record. It records for me. It's got a gyro in it. like That thing is just great for me on my hands to get to get content and get things done. And then also the GoPro. No, I got like a basically like a step below the professional Sony camera or whatever. so i mean it's It's way more than I would ever need. but i mean It's cool. It takes nice nice still pictures and it's 4K video. and i mean it's It's a good camera to learn how to do this stuff. and i mean ah Without even thinking about it, you know I'm three grand into the hole with this stupid thing. and
00:29:52
Speaker
Now i'm I'm out there, antelope hunting, taking pictures of freaking cows and horses and stuff and sunsets. This is kind of addicting, again. you know And I was just like, antelope hunting is probably the hardest hunt to film, for sure, because there's nothing to hide behind, and the lenses that you need are really expensive to be able to to zoom in far enough to like see what's going on.
00:30:19
Speaker
You know, most of the other stuff, you're you're closer, but like, antelope hunting, you're either filming through your spotter, or you're filming from 300 yards behind the person, otherwise you gotta worry about hiding two people from an antelope in knee-high grass, you know? So it's, there's it's very logistically challenging. I brought one of my buddies out there to try and help, and he did his best, but it was still super hard, and the footage is not,
00:30:48
Speaker
Not the best. I mean, it's just tough. Yeah, I ended up buying, I'm using Nikon, which I probably shouldn't have what I was selling, but I already bought Nikon as it was. So I'm buying Nikon now. what you You have to kind of commit to your brand because your lenses are transferable. So the lenses are the expensive part. Like my camera is only like 800 bucks. It's not the best camera. Like I said, I can upgrade that.
00:31:09
Speaker
But I ended up buying a lens this year for like $1,800. It goes from 20 to 400 zoom. It's super small, but it zooms out zooms in, so you can get those long shots and stuff. The lenses are where where the money is in these cameras, man, because you could go down a $5,000, $6,000 rabbit hole real quick with the lenses to get those good shots. I do really enjoy the picture taking and stuff. But it's just funny how like i went we went to Hawaii, me and Brad Hunt last week from Gritty, and we filmed um We did everything because we were bow hunting and we didn't want to you know ah just we don't want to ruin the hunt. We hunted pigs with knives and it was the most bitchin' thing like I've ever done.
00:31:49
Speaker
like it was like It was like you felt like you got into a fist fight with your buddies, like high-fiving. Once you get these pigs down, you stab them in the throat, and like you're just tackling these pigs, and the dogs are going crazy. But I ended up part of my GoPro for most of it. But then Brad's filming with his, I don't even know how expensive, camera from Brian, $10,000. And he's getting so much more good content of like the B-roll stuff, and like the dogs in the water. And I'm like, dude, that's why you're good at this, and I'm not. like They just see things, like Lou Dusenberry,
00:32:19
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just sees things that I don't see. Yeah. I mean, that's, that's one thing about the camera world and for the hunting industry, for that matter is like, it's really easy to tell what's good content and what's shitty content and like people won't watch shitty content. Yeah, man.
00:32:40
Speaker
um Yeah, my stuff must be pretty shitty because I don't get a lot of views on YouTube. But but I'm trying. like I think the biggest thing to do is that is just do
Creating Content and Improvement
00:32:52
Speaker
it, right? so like You pause all the video I put together of our our shoot together, like the biggest thing to do is just start doing it and start getting content together and then start making films and you're going to get better at it. Don't go out and buy, like it's like something with hunting. like Don't go out and buy all the gear. like go you know Foreground on Kuyu and all this stuff. Just buy something
00:33:15
Speaker
and start doing it and you'll get the gear to go along, right? You'll be able to add a camera on this year or a lens next year, right? Like I've had the same camera now for two years. I've been adding to it oh and just start doing it. And I feel like I've gotten a lot better at the content stuff and like it's getting, my videos are not as bad. I also paid somebody to edit my videos for me now because my videos were not good. The editing is like probably the most hard part about these things. And it just takes me way too long where someone else can do it pretty quickly.
00:33:42
Speaker
But um what i've been able to do it is just start doing it like get a camera and know start filming and figuring it out and don't have an expectation like i don't expect to ever be. Put now like you know luke dusenberry films on my own on my own someday i'll hire you to go on to me but. um and But what I can do is start doing it and learning how to do it. But it's so important for me, like with the content creation, because a lot of myself, I can handle the content stuff right now. like and That's what I think I'm good at, right? It's like going to the three cameras, do a video about a tripod. I could do all that stuff on my own now. I never could have done that two years ago. I have all the mics, the DJI mics, the lav mics, the boom mics.
00:34:22
Speaker
but lighting I can do all that stuff now and like that concert was doing it and now I'm learning the other side, and which is the hunting side, which I'm sure by the end of this year, I'll be pretty good at you know and i'll I'll have a better understanding of and just keep doing you got it. You gotta remember these guys like Luke have been doing it for 20 years. you know I've been doing it for two. Right. Yeah. I mean, that's for the the spot that you and I are in.
00:34:46
Speaker
like if you have the idea. You're like, I need to do this video real quick. like It's nice just to be able to go do it yeah while you have the idea in your head rather than like, hey, I got to call this guy and he's not available until XYZ date and I got to wait until then. Whereas if I have an idea, I did it yesterday.
00:35:08
Speaker
I went and I recorded a video and edited it and sent it to my social media dude and he posted it last night. So it's just like the ability to be able to do that is is sweet for for a business owner.
00:35:21
Speaker
Yeah, for sure, and it's necessary now. like Anytime we have an issue or say someone calls and they're like, how do I do this? I'll make a video myself and then I'll send it off and we'll get it on YouTube. right like It's good to go to have that. like Anytime someone has a question like, how does this knob work? I'll make a video about that knob specifically. even It's only a minute or a minute and 30 seconds. I'll make it and i can I can edit it myself, put it on YouTube and it's done. And then I give it to my customer service rep. They're like, hey, here's this video now. If no one asked that question, it's right there.
00:35:49
Speaker
Even the most, like the stupidest things in the world, like how to install, whatever, a Bino step in front of binoculars. That's a video that, you know, we have out. You can do it. um All right, we talked about video, boring everybody's art video stuff. People might be excited about
Joy of Archery over Rifle Hunting
00:36:05
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that. So dude, let's talk about archery because you know a lot more about archery than I do. I really i had a bow for like 10 years. I really didn't get into archery until like the last year. And over the last year, I've just like fallen in love with it. I honestly would probably rather hunt my bow than my rifle right now.
00:36:23
Speaker
um It's just so fun. It's cathartic. I love shooting my bow every day. When we get off this call, I shoot my bow before I go to the gym. um But there's it's like anything and there's so much more to it than just picking up a bow and shooting it, man. Yeah, definitely. I mean, that's i've been I think this is my 21st year bow hunting, so I kind of started as as young as I could when when I was a kid. and Grew up doing it with my dad. So he he kind of taught me taught me the the basics of bow hunting and It took a while for me to to kind of find the final love for it find the obsession with with shooting a bow and I would say it it happened kind of about ten years ago now was was kind of when the bug bit me really really hard and I kind of went full send into
00:37:16
Speaker
working on my own stuff and doing all my my homework and becoming a student of the game rather than ah pick up your bow a month before season and and shoot it and make sure it's good and then go hunt type of person, which if you're that person, that's fine. you know And it's not, I will tell you if you wanna become obsessed with shooting a bow and bow hunting, you need to turn that into your lifestyle. there's you know I don't go on a lot of vacations that aren't related to hunting in some regard. And that's that's the way that I've chosen to structure my life. And that's okay. you know if If you wanna go and hunt for 60, 70, 80 days a year, you gotta to do some some shit in your life to make that possible. And it's not for everyone.
00:38:04
Speaker
okay Yeah, man, for sure. My poor wife, like I'm always like, whoa, can we hunt there?
Learning from Experienced Hunters
00:38:10
Speaker
We do do like one like beach thing a year. like We'll go down to like Mexico, just me and her together. But like we're going to go next year, and I'm going to rent a house in Hawaii on the Big Island for a month, just so I can bow hunt.
00:38:21
Speaker
right so the family will be there probably bo behind it's like finding a way to bring them into it because like I am not Brian Barney and I'm such a late bloomer to the archery thing like it's freaking hard and I'm so obsessed with it like I actually was texting Brian this morning and I'm like dude Brian I'll come and film for you and not hunt and just learn from you like I'll freaking carry your backpack just learn from you because like there's such a learning curve there for archery it's so much more difficult than than rifle like it's not even I don't think anyone's going to come in here and be like, oh, rifle hunting is harder than archery. It's just not. It's just not. Other than you can hunt elk in the rut, which is kind of cool. and you get You get some better season dates. You can hunt Arizona in the rut with a bow. But just because you see animals, then you can kill animals. So like yes, you can just see more animals with archery sometimes, but it doesn't mean you're killing more animals. and i mean um My girlfriend, Sydney, you met her. We shot up there. like
00:39:14
Speaker
She's got the bug as far as like shooting the bow goes. So she hadn't shot a bow up until... about nine months ago. And I mean, she's learning from me. She's learning from all the guys at the bow shop. So like she's she's set up really well. And it's hilarious because when she doesn't shoot well, she gets so pissed. And it's like, listen, you started shooting a bow less than a year ago and you're expecting perfection, which i mean is partially my fault because I hold her to a really high standard with with the skills that I've taught her.
00:39:48
Speaker
um But she's she's legit. We went down to Texas in June and she killed a pig out of a ground blind at one in the morning in the pitch black when she shot a pig with her bow and you know perfect hard shot. and it was It was pretty sick. So she's going to go on two whitetail hunts this year to kind of kind of get her something, a quote unquote real big game animal killed with her bow.
00:40:14
Speaker
and and She loves it. She shoots her bow without me a bunch, which is sick. and i mean you can't You can't fake it. You're either going to love shooting a bow or you're going to shoot a bow as much as necessary to be proficient and sometimes not even that much. Yeah, dude. That's the thing like I deal with like with of my kids. right so My kids all have bows. My three oldest boys do.
00:40:40
Speaker
And my 10-year-old shoots a little more than the other ones. My other boys never shoot their bows. like they just don't like It's like, you have to want it. ah you can't like i like this This isn't the piano lessons that I paid for. You never did. This is archery. like I'm not going to take your archery ah archery hunting if you're not going to want it. like like You could tell there's somebody who wants to be good and somebody who just wants to go out on a hunt with you, right? Like, my boys don't pick up their bows. Like, you're not gonna go hunting. Like, you literally homeschool, you can do it every day and you don't do it.
Family's Role in Archery Passion
00:41:09
Speaker
So, like, you're not gonna go, like, we have an arc system that opens up in a couple weeks in San Diego, like, you will not carry your bow on that hunt because you have not shot your bow more than five times this year or whatever. You know, you shot it tacked a couple times and that's it. Like, you have to want it and Sydney wants it. I can tell you for sure, dude, she's a super sweet girl.
00:41:29
Speaker
She is one of the best archery shots. i I shoot a lot of women. ah She shoots freaking great. She's beautiful, and she likes to hunt. You have got to put a ring on that finger, dude, like sooner than later, because she's a keeper, dude. I was super stoked hanging out with her. Definitely batting out of your league, bro. I know. she's She's a badass, and I got lucky on that one for sure.
00:41:52
Speaker
and like that's One thing I like made super clear to her is like I'm not going to force you to do this because I don't want you to like hate it and resent me for it and then all that kind of shit. so like I kind of put the ball in her court. like I gave her access to all of the tools to like have a really good bow. She's got a fucking $2,000 bow for her first bow. You know what I mean? like Not very many people have that option. You know what I mean? So she's got top of the line stuff. She's got top of the line people to rely on for for knowledge and to learn from. like If you want to take this, then you can take this as far as you want. But if you don't, then I'm totally cool with that too. Yeah, and she's into it and she gets it, which is awesome. So we just talked about that. We talked about the Bose thing because a lot of you guys started out with a cheap $500 bow.
00:42:43
Speaker
I bought both my partners, like basically flagship bows. My one partner that you didn't meet, I bought him a flagship. And dude, like he started shooting it and he was shooting pretty phenomenal. Like the bow does play a role. Like nice bows do shoot better. Like I'm not gonna like, I switched over, I was shooting a Bowtech SS34, which is a phenomenal bow.
00:43:05
Speaker
But I switched to a Hoyt, and I know the day I shot with you, I shot terribly. But dude, I'm shooting better than I ever shot in my life right now. Like, I'm just freaking drunk. Like, I love that bow. And I know a lot of it is just me shooting my bow every day. But a nice bow and nice equipment, it does do a lot on our tree.
Advanced Technology in Bows
00:43:25
Speaker
Yeah, for sure. i mean it's The archery industry is very logical. like If it costs the company more to manufacture, than then you're going to pay more for it. And generally, like a lot of that upfront cost is for R and&D and for technology.
00:43:40
Speaker
So having more technology on your side as far as efficiency from the bow, like efficiency is huge, right? You can pull less poundage and get more arrow speed. More arrow speed is the equivalent to more caliber with a rifle, right? So I mean, you can kill ah you can kill an animal with a 243, but you can kill an animal a lot farther at more angles with a bigger gun. you know So it's it's very similar with a bow. And getting the most efficiency out of that bow, it comes down to comes down to technology. It comes down to the time that that company spent developing that product. So we should talk about that, arrow speed and everything. because
00:44:26
Speaker
I'm shooting a 4.65 arrow. therefore I think it's 4.60 now because I cut some off of it. 4.60 arrow. I'm shooting a 2.94. I feel like I got this freaking sweet spot for an arrow and a speed, especially for elk. What are your
Optimal Arrow Setup
00:44:42
Speaker
takes, dude? Are you a heavy arrow store guy? Are you like a lighter 400 grain arrow fast guy? And why?
00:44:51
Speaker
um I'd say kind of I kind of build my arrow set up based on the speed that I like to shoot. So I like to be 290 or faster basically is where I like to be. um So for me generally at a 28 inch draw length that means that I'm going to shoot 80 pounds. it just it is what it is. So I'm shooting the 80 pound bow with a 460 grain arrow and it's doing 300 feet a second. That's kind of that 290 to 300. It's kind of right where I want to be. um My thought there is
00:45:25
Speaker
I would rather have better trajectory, meaning that my pin gaps are tighter together because generally the hardest part about killing an animal with a bow is the transition from ranging to see how far the animal is and shooting, right? So if I'm off one to two yards, I don't want that arrow to completely miss the animal because I was one to two yards off on my range. I want to have that forgiveness to still be in the vitals if I don't get my range perfect or if that animal moves.
00:45:58
Speaker
yeah i do i can speak to that because i definitely missed the biggest bucke oft the trip i with my bow cause i was dommy I had
Importance of Accurate Ranging
00:46:05
Speaker
blown a couple of stocks. i could easily they have They're very similar to Antelope. They're like these axis gear. I had got within like 40 yards and a couple of deer. and like I was trying to get my rangefinder up and they pinned me and they take off. so I'm like, screw it. like I see what 40 yards looks like. The next one, you know I don't need to range them, which is stupid.
00:46:24
Speaker
um so i freakin got I saw a giant buck and I freakin' make like an awesome plan. or opinion jannipers they They look like... Imagine pinion junipers, like big bushes in the middle of this field. So I like play these trees, got in there, and this freakin' buck steps out and just pins me. And I'm like, I can't arrange this buck. If I arrange it, he's gonna take off, which I should have just arranged the buck. So I was like, oh, he's 50 yards.
00:46:49
Speaker
and he was 40 yards and I went right over his back and then he went back a little bit further, set one more arrow and he, I've never seen an animal jump the string so greatly. It was like the matrix dude. It went like right for the vitals and this thing like did like almost like a 180 backflip right past him because I rushed it, I didn't range, like there's a process. And you, afterwards you're just like, what a dumbass. Like what was I thinking to not be the rangefinder? Like I have a rangefinder on my chest right here. Just range it real quick, drop the rangefinder, pull the arrow. It just, you just feel, I don't know, you turned a little kid sometimes, man. You just fall apart. Oh man. I mean, those guys that can, that can guess range, like that's, that's a skill that is very, very limited.
00:47:36
Speaker
in the world. like There's probably a handful of people that can accurately guess range out to 60 yards. That shit is hard, man, and I'm ah i'm a rangefinder baby. I got to use that thing every single time. like I can't guess yards to save my life, so I got to use that rangefinder every single time.
00:47:55
Speaker
Yeah man, I wish I had that one back. It's like, that's one thing with the Archer hunting, man, it's like the highs and lows, and there's a lot more lows, I feel like, with that sport. And, i like, you just look at it and you're like, man, if I would have just ranged him, I probably would have got a shot on him. Maybe you would have taken a couple steps forward, but I would have known that he was 40 yards, not 50. But I want something right on his back. But that's, that that transition, I'm glad that you said that, that transition is tough. What bow are you shooting? Curious.
Earl's Preferred Bow and Setup
00:48:24
Speaker
so I'm shooting the PSE Mach 30. It's their carbon bow. I really get along well with that Evolve cam, um which I think is super important. you know When you're picking out a bow, you should shoot every single bow that's available because that that brand loyalty thing, I think that's that's one of the dumbest things. you know yeah If you're missing out on a bow that you could potentially shoot better,
00:48:48
Speaker
Just because of the brand like that's you're not doing yourself any favors, you know, so i've shot a little bit of everything over the years And just kind of found out that that I shoot that evolved cam the best out of out of any other bows so i've been shooting pse for two years now and Unless they screw something up or get rid of that cam i'm probably going to shoot a pse again next year Yeah, the um The only thing I have seen different is the is the back wall and some of these bows are a little different. like My hoist is a lot more aggressive than my bow tech. I'll accidentally let off sometimes with my hoist, which i'm learning not I'm not doing it now, but I'm shooting a bow tech for a year and a half straight and then going over to the hoist. I'll draw back and if you let off a little bit, you're going for a ride. You got to catch it again. I saw do that a couple times. You want me shot.
00:49:40
Speaker
Yeah, i'm like I'm getting used to it. I've only been shooting that bow for like two months. One thing I did too is I really liked the 30 inch bows over the 34 inch bow. like I had that big 34 and even though it was like a Cadillac, and like that's only the only way I can describe that bow tech. It was like a Cadillac. It's so easy to shoot. It was 22% slower than this Hoyt with the same arrow. It was a 34. But ah yeah the 30 inch bow, I feel like it's more like for me, for Western hunting,
00:50:07
Speaker
I really like it. It is compact. It fits in my pack well. I i can move around the well. I feel like I can tree saddle. It's a lot more spacious for me. ah I like the 30 inch bow. I think I i only want everybody to go back to a 34.
00:50:23
Speaker
Yeah. and i've Generally, kind of that 30 to 32 inches is where I like. I do a lot of hunting out of a tree stand or out of a saddle.
00:50:33
Speaker
and Having that extra maneuverability is great. And also, like if you hunt in Texas, chances are you're probably going to be sitting in a box blind, like a wooden box blind. It's what they use out there. you know There's not a ton of trees that you can put a ah tree stand in. And those deer are also super spooky. i mean that's That's one step down from axis deer is a Texas whitetail. And if they see any movement, just like an axis, they're going to run away really fast.
00:51:04
Speaker
Yeah, I ran a 34 in a blind in Sonora this year. And it was so hard to get that thing like you almost had to have it perfectly in the front of the blind and perfectly like to so you don't like especially if I have a 29 and a half inch drawer. It isn't super long, but it's longer than a lot of guys. oh To get that drawn or not have it hit the top of the blind the back of the blind like the 30 inches much better for that.
00:51:28
Speaker
and That could be kind of why I'm letting off too. is it It's a little steeper of an angle. It's probably why it's making me let off a little more too than the 34. The 34 is a Cadillac, it really is. what um What errors are you running? yeah Yeah, for sure. This year, I'm shooting the AXS long range, the 4mm.
00:51:48
Speaker
um So I've got, it's a 300 spine axis long range. I cut them pretty short. So they're like 26 and a half inches. And I put a ah victory taper lock 75 grand insert on the front. Um, and then three fletch with the, uh, AA max stealth veins, which is, you know, a longer, longer profile vein, and then broad heads.
00:52:14
Speaker
For most of everything, except for elk, I'm gonna shoot in the G5 Mega Meets, and then for elk, I'm gonna shoot those Sever Hybrid 1.5s. So very similar for me, I'm shooting the Easton Access 300, 4mm, same veins. I'm using their aluminum out-cert. They sent me much of their titaniums, but their titaniums weigh 100 grams. I didn't want Dick with making my arrow that heavy, and it would just mess everything up for me, so I stuck with the aluminum. I haven't really had an issue with bending any of them with the new style. I'm shooting this, I shot the beast, the beast broadheads over in Hawaii.
00:52:49
Speaker
They were devastating, that's for sure. The only thing I could say about them that I didn't like is that, like, if you're putting them in your quiver, they'll spring open. Like, you gotta be really careful when you're putting them in because the springs are so touchy. Like, I didn't like that. I did it a couple times. I didn't like that. But, like, flight-wise, they fly literally like my kill points, which is pretty crazy.
00:53:12
Speaker
um And then I am shooting the severs. So when I go out cutting this week, I'm going to be carrying the severs with me. The one and a half, I don't think they're the hybrids. I think they're just the original one. they I got some from maybe May or something. But it's the auction, I'm sorry, it's a two inch. The two inch severs, they're regular ones. so ye We issued those for Elg this year, and see how it goes. I really don't have a purpose between the two of them. They both fly really good, and they both are various lethal broadheads. So I'm going to probably bounce back and forth between the both from the broad season and see how we're
Using Different Broadheads
00:53:43
Speaker
trying to like more. I can tell you that I ended up putting a second shot on this pig, um because I had hit her a little far back. like kind of went She was quarter more than I thought through the brush, and it kind of blew out through her back lungs, or the back of her lung and through her guts.
00:53:58
Speaker
And then I had to get an honor and she was like five yards from me and I put an arrow into her, like through her front shoulder facing me and it went all the way through that pig. And it just came out the backside and just those things are gnarly when they hit animals. I get to see like what it does to them. It's, it's, they're pretty cool. It's two inch cut diameter is pretty neat. Yeah. Oh, it's crazy. Yeah. Those mega meats are pretty gnarly. I think they're probably bigger than two inch, but like I shot a deer with one of those.
00:54:28
Speaker
frontal and like this the hole was the size of my hand like it was pretty graphic and I Mean the problem with those, you know, super gigantic broadheads is generally there They're one and done, you know, you shoot them and they're they're trash after that But I mean honestly like with broadheads I'm just not gonna be that guy that's gonna replace blades and sharpen blades and and do that. It's just like Why you know, there's Yeah, they're really not that expensive and as long as they work the first time then that's they did their job, you know, I got my $10 worth. Yeah, they are Brad hunt use this mega meets on his deer. They definitely are pretty disruptive. He shot an actress with them when he was over there in Hawaii. He's a big fan of those as well. If you guys are really liking those those broad hits.
00:55:21
Speaker
um Yeah, dude. So we, uh, that's a lot of archery talk. I don't need to go in much. We didn't talk about your site or anything. I know, what I know what stabilizer you're using using the cutter stabilizer. That's for sure. So, uh, we always like to add to the hunting story, dude. Doesn't have to be your biggest handbook would be any story you got. Can't fire story. Uh, his would be hunting story.
00:55:46
Speaker
Um, Well, I could tell the tell the story of my my biggest whitetail that I ended up shooting last year in Nebraska. um So we basically we have we have a few different properties that we can hunt out there in
Targeting Specific Bucks
00:56:00
Speaker
Nebraska. And last year I kind of made the decision that I was going to shoot one of three bucks that we had on camera and nothing else. So I kind of went out The first time I went out was around Halloween, so I hunted like October 31st through November 3rd or 4th. I ended up seeing one of the bucks the first morning, and it was my first hanging hunt with a saddle. and just It was a shit show. like The tree I picked out, my straps for my sticks didn't fit around.
00:56:38
Speaker
So I had to find another tree. It's like 10 minutes until it starts to get light. So I'm scrambling, trying to find a freaking tree to climb. I find a tree, run up like one stick, look up, and there's like a bird's nest of branches above me. So like I can't go higher than one stick. so You need to bring a saw. like I either need to bring a saw with you on the tree saddle, because I'll send you a video.
00:57:00
Speaker
I got, tethered sent me a whole, the whole deal, like $1,500, $1,200, $2,000 with the tree saddle stuff. And dude, like, for one, it scared the hell out of me doing it. Like, like i was until I got used to it, I was like, huh, I had to get used to it. Once I got used to it, it wasn't so bad. But dude, like, it's definitely like, if you buy a tree saddle, like, go practice before you go out. Like, it's not like you just go out there and do it, dude. Yeah. Which, like, I did, I practiced a bunch in my backyard. Like, I probably climbed the tree in my backyard.
00:57:30
Speaker
you know, 15, 20 times and then went out there. And I mean, it was like, it was a scramble to go like get up this tree. So I'm one stick up off the ground. I'm five feet off the ground in the saddle. It starts to get light. And I start to see deer immediately. So like this, we call him the big eight. He's like a hundred and 145 inch eight point.
00:57:54
Speaker
comes in chasing does and he stops like 25 yards away from me and stands there for a minute and a half and I don't have a shot because of all those stupid branches that were hanging down. So I'm like watching this deer is one of the ones that I wanted to shoot for a minute and a half just like cussing and in my head because I can't shoot this deer. um So that was the first day. um The rest of the season I went out another time like Mid November, I went out for Thanksgiving. I went out the first week of December. I ended up seeing that big eight point one more time on the Thanksgiving trip, um like 60 yards away, didn't didn't have a shot. um Come home after that December, that early December trip, which I sat two all day sits. I didn't see a single deer for two all day sits. So I came home, put all my shit away.
00:58:52
Speaker
kind of was just like i'm I'm done with this. Like it's the years over and I'm just kind of, you know, getting back into the swing of like being at
Perseverance in Hunting Success
00:59:02
Speaker
home. I'm like, this is dumb. the The season is still open. I need to, I need to get out there and and could be a bitch and I need to get back out there and at least go hunt. So I go back out December 29th, sit in the tree and right at, right at last light, there's a little,
00:59:21
Speaker
a forky that comes in. He walks right underneath my trees like five yards away. um He ends up turning around and going back the way he came and like maybe a minute or two minutes later I see a deer coming off in the distance. and It's like almost dark at this point. So i'm like I said stupid forky coming back again.
00:59:42
Speaker
So I don't set up the camera. i I had my bow in my hand at least, but he gets to like 50 yards and I realized that it's not that forky. I'm like, shit, I don't have the camera running. Like not going to get this on video. And it's, it's a big deer. You know, I thought it was at the time. I was like, this is the big eight he's coming in. He comes in turns, end up shooting him quartering away at 13 yards. He runs off. Um.
01:00:10
Speaker
I go find him and I got it on, I was on the phone with my business partner and I'm like, yo, I just shot the big eight. I walk up to him and I'm like, holy shit, it's not the big eight, it's the big 10. And it was this 170 inch, non-typical 13 point buck that we had one picture of all year. And I ended up shooting that deer on December 29th. Season closes on the 31st.
01:00:33
Speaker
Man, that's awesome, dude. And that's what it's about. And what I'll tell everybody listening right now is when you want to quit this year on your hunts, I'm going to get my buck kicked next week and you in Colorado. We're going to spend about two weeks over there. Don't quit, because you're going to spend the whole year thinking about that hunt and wanting to go out. like we're We're buying gear. We're training. We're shooting our bows. And then you get out there, and you only get to hunt for a certain period of time each year.
01:01:01
Speaker
Don't quit, because I guarantee you in January, you'd be thinking, man, I wish I was sitting at a tree stop, freezing my balls off right now, looking for deer. You'll never regret staying out there. You'll always regret going home. So yeah, that's a great story. Yeah, and I mean, that's... Yeah, and you might you can see him. He's over my shoulder there. That's that's him. but Still waiting on the the cape to get it get the mountain done. and
01:01:31
Speaker
He's a stud. He's a big deer. Oh, dude, he's got a kicker off the back on both sides. Three, four, six. He's a tank dude. So he's straight tan on this side. Got that blading there. And then he's got the double kickers on that one side. Dude, and gigantic eye guards. I mean, like five inch, six inch eye guards or something. I mean, they're gnarly. Huge, yeah. Bigger than your hand, that's for sure. Yeah.
01:02:01
Speaker
Yeah, so he he taped out, he had like 39 inches of mass. I mean, this shit is crazy, dude. like i can't that's I can't get my hand around that. you know he just He's a big deer, big freaking deer. Dude, that Coos gear that I shot in Mexico this year, he's 108 inches, but he has 33 inches of mass.
01:02:23
Speaker
it's just He was all masked. I like masked. I like weird gear, man. Mask is cool. All right, dude. It's an awesome podcast. If you guys want to put a stabilizer on your boat, cuttersstabilizers.com. Cutters Stabilizer is official on Instagram. Reach out to Earl. He is going to be the one you're probably talking to or you know you'll get in touch with. ah If you have a local bow shop, go show them Cutters Stabilizer because they should be in local bow shops.
01:02:50
Speaker
It's all the Earth people, a big fan of him and Sydney, and I wish you the best, Earl, and I'm just stoked to get to know you, and hopefully we can get out and do some more shit together next year, and maybe do some hunts. And there's a lot of whitetails. Maybe I'll go out and do some whitetail or something. I got to do that tree stand thing at some point in my life. Heck yeah, dude. ill I'll warn you, you'll get hooked on it. and That shit is addicting, man. It's awesome. but I appreciate you having me on. I appreciate you chatting with me and getting to know me. and I had a really good time shooting with you out there in Utah and hopefully we can do it again soon. Thanks, bro. Thank you for listening to the Tricer Podcast. Do us a favor and like and subscribe on whatever platform you're listening on. Give us a follow on Instagram and Facebook at TricerUSA and go and check out all of our innovative gear at www.tricerusa.com. Until next time, shoot straight, have fun, and always put God first.