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Episode 186: "The Conjuring: Last Rites" Review! The End of an Era!

The Popcorn Podcast
The Popcorn Podcast

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This week on The Popcorn Podcast, Tommy and Ryan confront the chilling finale of Ed and Lorraine Warren’s story with The Conjuring: Last Rites. From its oppressive atmosphere to the emotional weight of closing out one of horror’s most successful franchises, we explore how Last Rites balances heart-stopping scares with heartfelt goodbyes. We break down the film’s terrifying set pieces, the performances that ground its supernatural chaos, and whether this conclusion delivers the send-off fans have been waiting for. The Conjuring: Last Rites In this episode, we unpack how James Wan’s universe comes full circle, the legacy of Ed and Lorraine’s battles with evil, and where the franchise could go — if anywhere — from here. Episode Highlights:  The Warrens’ Final Case: How the film closes their chapter.  Emotional Core: Performances that give the horror weight.  Atmosphere & Dread: The scares that stick with you long after the credits. Franchise Legacy: What The Conjuring has meant for modern horror.  What’s Next: Can the universe continue without the Warrens? Special Thanks:  Huge thank you to our sponsor Snack Crate for making this show possible! To thank them for making sure this show is possible, visit  SnackCrate.com and use our discount code: Popcorn for 50% your box and free shipping! Connect with Us: Tommy: @Tommy_Cresta Ryan: @Foran12 The Show: @The_Popcorn_Podcast Editor Colin Gallagher: @colingallagher.3  Available now on all platforms. Grab your popcorn — and your Snack Crate — and join us as we dive into the haunting conclusion of The Conjuring saga. The popcorn’s hot, let’s press play.

Transcript

tommy cresta: Welcome back everyone to the Popcorn Podcast.

Ryan: Yeah. Last Rites. Last Rites. Last Rites.

tommy cresta: I am Tony Cresta.

Ryan: Last Rites.

tommy cresta: One of your hosts across from me is the other host, Ryan Fran, who's repping a new haircut that he got, his biannual haircut that he gets.

Ryan: r

tommy cresta: And yeah, welcome back to the Popcorn Podcast.

Ryan: and yeah

tommy cresta: In this week's episode, we will be reviewing the last film in the Conjuring franchise, which is the Conjuring...

Ryan: last

tommy cresta: The Last Rites?

Ryan: yeah

tommy cresta: Yeah. Is it The Last Rites or just Rites?

Ryan: that's right

tommy cresta: Last Rites.

Ryan: last writes

tommy cresta: Last Rites. And we have a sponsor.

Ryan: and we

tommy cresta: yous Most of you saw it on the Instagram. But it's a snack crate.

Ryan: Yes.

tommy cresta: We'll get more in depth about them.

Ryan: You get a soda. You get a nice soda.

tommy cresta: But they sent us a first snack crate, so we'll be trying some snacks from their box this month.

Ryan: Yeah. You're going to be burping all over the place.

tommy cresta: It's from Spain. But, yeah, so me and Ryan are very excited to try some of the snacks that they sent us.

Ryan: It's going to be adorable. Yeah. yes

tommy cresta: we have Each of us get three snacks, and I get to try because, you know, I get to show it because, you know, I love my my little burp water.

Ryan: you get a soda get a nice o yeah

tommy cresta: No, I'm not. What is it?

Ryan: you're gonna be burping all over the place it's gonna be adorable

tommy cresta: No, was laughing because I think it would be funny if

Ryan: yeah No, I was laughing because I think it'd be it'd be funny if it was The Last Rites. They just doubled The Conjuring, The Last Rites.

tommy cresta: hold color agree ah last conjuring the last rice.

Ryan: Yeah, that'd be great.

tommy cresta: Yeah, that'd be great. But, what what was this again?

Ryan: What was this again?

tommy cresta: This was apple?

Ryan: This was Apple?

tommy cresta: Yeah. Kas manzana. Intense sabor congas.

Ryan: Yeah.

tommy cresta: I can't speak.

Ryan: You don't know Spanish.

tommy cresta: I can barely speak English.

Ryan: Yeah, you don't know Spanish.

tommy cresta: It's actually pretty good. Is

Ryan: Is it?

tommy cresta: Would you like the fountain zone?

Ryan: sounds Yeah.

tommy cresta: Yeah. Have a sip.

Ryan: I'm going to have a sip.

tommy cresta: gonna have sip. But while Ryan is doing that,

Ryan: but we're mr actually jump You know what that tastes like?

tommy cresta: i ah For most of you... Actually, I don't know if we... Have we talked about... What does it taste like?

Ryan: Apple soda.

tommy cresta: Apple juice?

Ryan: That's crazy. Who'd have guessed?

tommy cresta: Apple soda? Oh, I don't know.

Ryan: I don't know.

tommy cresta: They don't probably use all the preservatives that the U.S.

Ryan: They don't probably use the preservatives in the U.S.

tommy cresta: uses.

Ryan: foods. There's Red 40 in there.

tommy cresta: There's red 40.

Ryan: Red 40 adds flavor.

tommy cresta: Red 40 adds flavor. Do we think that there's red 40 in this?

Ryan: No, it's not red.

tommy cresta: No, it's not red.

Ryan: What are you talking?

tommy cresta: We thought that was joke.

Ryan: I was joking.

tommy cresta: Oh, It's clear.

Ryan: Yeah.

tommy cresta: No, read the ingredients, Tommy.

Ryan: No, read the read the ingredients, Tommy. What language are they in?

tommy cresta: What did you just call me? Tommy.

Ryan: Tommy.

tommy cresta: You never call me Tommy.

Ryan: I know, it's been a while.

tommy cresta: always call me Tom.

Ryan: It's only when you're really fucking stupid.

tommy cresta: totally when you're really fucking stupid.

Ryan: I'm like, Tommy, stop it.

tommy cresta: I'm like, Tom, stop it.

Ryan: The Spanish ingredients.

tommy cresta: You have Spanish spirit.

Ryan: I wonder what's in this.

tommy cresta: Yeah, that was stupid.

Ryan: You don't know i how to read it. Yeah.

tommy cresta: Yeah, I'm not going to attempt to say that. um ah I really haven't talked about it the podcast. I'm doing a ghost investigation. Ryan's not doing it because Ryan's the smart one between the two of us.

Ryan: No.

tommy cresta: Can I tell you my dad came out and he was like, so Mr.

Ryan: Can I tell you, my dad came out and he was like, so Mr. Cresta told me you bailed out of doing some some ghost.

tommy cresta: Creston told me you bailed out of doing some ghost.

Ryan: like yeah

tommy cresta: He didn't bail out of it.

Ryan: I know.

tommy cresta: I know. mind My dad was like, I bailed out of doing a haunted house.

Ryan: My dad was like, you bailed out of doing a haunted house? And I was like, it's not a haunted house like fucking Bates Motel.

tommy cresta: And i was like, it's not haunted house, like fucking Bates Motel.

Ryan: It's like an actual haunted house.

tommy cresta: It's like an actual haunted house.

Ryan: My dad was like, oh yeah, no, I wouldn't do that shit either.

tommy cresta: My dad was like oh yeah, wouldn't do that And I have said from the very beginning to my dad that I have not given you any hate for it.

Ryan: i

Ryan: and No.

tommy cresta: I've not given you any, like, I never pressured you.

Ryan: Yeah. Yes.

tommy cresta: I mean, you have been very like agreed upon you've never had to be forced into one these.

Ryan: he yeah yes

tommy cresta: And if we do the Conjuring house, which I hope that we get to do one day, that you would come and do the tour during the day.

Ryan: i would

Ryan: you come and do the to Yeah, I'll come during the day.

tommy cresta: Yeah. and they

Ryan: and then

tommy cresta: And then at night, you'd go back to the hotel, and I would i would be...

Ryan: Yes, I will.

tommy cresta: i will i will conduct the interview ask you happened.

Ryan: I will conduct the interview and ask you guys what happened.

tommy cresta: Like how it went. Yes.

Ryan: Yes.

tommy cresta: Yeah. But October 2nd, all the equipment got to the house, so I've been testing it out.

Ryan: You have equipment. What old you get? Okay. Okay.

tommy cresta: you have equipment?

Ryan: Camera. equipment

tommy cresta: yeah I have like did get?

Ryan: what old you get

tommy cresta: REM pod. Okay.

Ryan: yeah

tommy cresta: I got a spirit box.

Ryan: lock

tommy cresta: Okay. Got an EMF reader. got a camera.

Ryan: camera

tommy cresta: Camera? I got a camera. Like a Polaroid camera?

Ryan: Like a Polaroid camera? I think me and Joseph are going to film during fall and winter.

tommy cresta: No, like a video camera. Because I think me and Joseph are going film during the fall and winter.

Ryan: Me and Joseph are going to take a short roll of the camera.

tommy cresta: Me and Jess are going to make a found like a short little like found footage movie in the Ohio woods.

Ryan: Yeah, nice. Oh, that's a bad decision.

tommy cresta: I know. You don't need a haunted house.

Ryan: You don't need a haunted house. Just go there.

tommy cresta: Just go there. But yeah, we're going to the Britain Lodge, which has lots of ghost investigations done there.

Ryan: But, yeah, we're from the Britain Lodge, which has lots ghost investigations down there.

tommy cresta: 6ABC even went there.

Ryan: Stick that can see in the left there.

tommy cresta: Lots of histories.

Ryan: Lots of issues.

tommy cresta: 300 years of history there.

Ryan: 300 years issues there.

tommy cresta: And...

Ryan: And

tommy cresta: So me and I were getting ready for that, and my brother decided it was a smart idea, since we're doing the Conjuring review, to to make his – he remade the picture of Valak from The Conjuring, and it looks amazing.

Ryan: He's a fucking idiot. Yeah. Crust

tommy cresta: yeah it

Ryan: of the Creations.

tommy cresta: My brother is extremely talented. He has an Instagram page where makes all this stuff.

Ryan: Yeah, Crust of the Creations.

tommy cresta: Crested Creations.

Ryan: Very genuinely.

tommy cresta: Crested Creations.

Ryan: He did a skeleton the other day.

tommy cresta: He did a skeleton video the other day. That was just one of the crappy, like, plastic skeleton.

Ryan: That was just one of the crappy, like, plastic skeletons a Party City.

tommy cresta: And he just – He got this – he called it the video.

Ryan: He got this. He called it the video. I liked it.

tommy cresta: I liked it.

Ryan: He was like, cheap mask.

tommy cresta: He was like – cheap mask.

Ryan: I don't care about this.

tommy cresta: I don't care about this.

Ryan: And he like fucking heat dried it with rapid.

tommy cresta: He like fucking heat dried it. Rapid.

Ryan: Dude, look scary as shit.

tommy cresta: Dude. yeah What scary shit. now

Ryan: The kid is.

tommy cresta: Very talented.

Ryan: He's fucked Yeah. Nice. But.

tommy cresta: He's making, so for the found footage, he's going to make like a dead buy.

Ryan: made it. While I was in my picture of it on the Instagram.

tommy cresta: That's why I'm going go like into the woods to try and find. But he made it. And Valak was in my basement and I'll put the picture of it on the Instagram. And it was creepy.

Ryan: And it was creepy.

tommy cresta: Ryan can vouch for I sent it all my friends.

Ryan: Ryan came out for us and saw all the You also put it in the darkest corner of your basement possible.

tommy cresta: You also put it in the darkest corner. Joseph put it there.

Ryan: It scares me.

tommy cresta: I didn't put it there. It's terrifying, but it looks really... It has like the hands coming around and everything. It looks fantastic. Joseph did great job. I told Joseph that me me and him almost came and put it in here without telling you.

Ryan: just

tommy cresta: He just came in and Bollock was in here.

Ryan: yeah

tommy cresta: um

Ryan: good

tommy cresta: But then, Joseph's never been scared of anything he's ever made.

Ryan: then just

tommy cresta: It's now not in my house anymore, and we'll get to that in a second.

Ryan: not in house

tommy cresta: But Joseph has turned it away in the garage that it's not looking at him because he's so scared of the picture.

Ryan: it was turn it away Yeah. Yeah.

tommy cresta: Yeah.

Ryan: sp

tommy cresta: There's spiders in everyone's house, but there's these big ones that live in my basement that freak me out.

Ryan: there's a big one take me

tommy cresta: And I took a video of it and I sent it to Ryan because one was in my basement.

Ryan: any my my

tommy cresta: And I didn't see Ryan's response at the time.

Ryan: i

tommy cresta: And I then took a video of it because it was – and it wasn't like a normal spider.

Ryan: and yeah and it wasn't the good

tommy cresta: Like, you know when you run – like, if you're, like, trying to get a spider go away, it's trying to get away from you.

Ryan: like its where you it's trying yeah

tommy cresta: This thing was being defensive as hell.

Ryan: Really? this thing was facing me like so not Yeah.

tommy cresta: Like, this thing was facing me and, like, backing itself up but like enough that, like, it was, like, looking at – it was freaking me out.

Ryan: and do like half the fucking roll.

tommy cresta: It was big and I hate spiders.

Ryan: Yeah.

tommy cresta: But not to the point you do.

Ryan: No, I can't do that. don't like bugs.

tommy cresta: Like, i'll I'll go up to them and, like, smack them my hand if need to get them away.

Ryan: Yeah.

tommy cresta: you

Ryan: you know i get

tommy cresta: ah apparentlyly a roll

Ryan: i'll grab your rollload toilet paper and do like half the fucking roll okay

tommy cresta: Oh, no, like, I'll grab it with my hand and, like, throw it in

Ryan: yeah no i can't do that i don't like bugs i

tommy cresta: But this one was big enough that I was kind of even like, oh, fuck this thing.

Ryan: yeah

tommy cresta: So i was in my basement down by the Volic poster originally.

Ryan: so it's in my

tommy cresta: So I didn't even think of it at first. And then it started going up each step, and I was trying to get it away.

Ryan: they are planning

tommy cresta: And it got into the kitchen, and then it stopped. And, like, it was just sitting in my kitchen.

Ryan: like you might take this

tommy cresta: I got a flashlight to, like, not lose it And was like, oh, dad, come grab it while like so I don't lose it while try and grab something.

Ryan: was like oh so I don't lose it while I something.

tommy cresta: And my dad grabbed it.

Ryan: Yeah.

tommy cresta: And I looked at my phone, and and Ryan was like, oh, see those shiny things on his back?

Ryan: And I look at my phone at times like, oh, so there's shiny thing on his back of the day.

tommy cresta: They're eggs.

Ryan: Don't crush it.

tommy cresta: Don't crush it or they're going to get they're goingnna hatch and go everywhere.

Ryan: And my

tommy cresta: And my heart sunk because I thought I saw like a piece of fuzz fall off of it.

Ryan: Because I thought I saw the buzz pull off of it. Mm-hmm.

tommy cresta: And my dad's like, I saw the same thing.

Ryan: And my dad's like, saw the same thing.

tommy cresta: And we get the flashlight, and we go down, and there's baby spiders on our floor.

Ryan: And we hit the flashlight and down and falling.

tommy cresta: And I tell Ryan, and Ryan's like, It's Volek! It's the nun! It's cursed! And I was like, oh no And he's like, you to sacrifice Joseph. this

Ryan: This picture was up for, what, three hours?

tommy cresta: Yeah, three hours in our basement.

Ryan: Nothing. you get

tommy cresta: Never seen a pregnant spider in my house.

Ryan: You get baby spiders in your basement.

tommy cresta: Yeah. And...

Ryan: And the video had never spiked in my basement.

tommy cresta: The EMF reader had never spiked in my basement.

Ryan: all

tommy cresta: It all of a sudden keeps spiking in my basement.

Ryan: che she

tommy cresta: And it's freaking me out because i was trying to show Sam all the equipment because Sam's super interested in all that.

Ryan: bridge and yeah and

tommy cresta: Hadn't spiked, all of a sudden just keeps maxing out in my basement.

Ryan: son That's good.

tommy cresta: It's freaking me out. But I'm going to – You're not allowed to bring that shit to my house.

Ryan: you're You're never in my house, by the way.

tommy cresta: I'm I don't want to anger Mr.

Ryan: Yeah, no, don't do that.

tommy cresta: Bernan.

Ryan: He's good guy.

tommy cresta: Sam's just fine. Let me just message her.

Ryan: Oh. No, but the answer it.

tommy cresta: answer it. You want me to answer it?

Ryan: Yeah, say hi to Sam.

tommy cresta: Yeah, say hi Sam.

Ryan: Tell her.

tommy cresta: Tell her. You're on the podcast.

Ryan: Hi, Sam.

tommy cresta: my God. Hello. Ryan wanted me to answer it.

Ryan: Yeah.

Ryan: sir

tommy cresta: It's okay, sweetheart.

Ryan: Oh, oh, what a sweet guy.

tommy cresta: ah It's okay. do you want Do you want me to call you back after?

tommy cresta: Okay. love you. I love you

Ryan: See you, Sam.

tommy cresta: Have fun.

Ryan: Bye.

tommy cresta: Bye.

Ryan: Did she ever shut up? nocha but so

tommy cresta: Hey! I'm joking.

Ryan: She ever not call you?

tommy cresta: But yeah.

Ryan: Jesus Christ.

tommy cresta: She's so sweet.

Ryan: She is very nice.

tommy cresta: She got done. so I think she just got done the gym.

Ryan: No.

tommy cresta: so I think she was just driving.

Ryan: know

tommy cresta: and And what?

Ryan: I'm trying to flex on you. What? I'm trying to flex on you.

tommy cresta: I know. She was like. Did she bench more than you

Ryan: She benched more than you yet? I'm sure she's close.

tommy cresta: I'm sure she's close.

Ryan: No.

tommy cresta: No. No.

Ryan: i Yeah, it's a today.

tommy cresta: But yeah. So it was a little wild day. And Joseph.

Ryan: And Joseph, me and Joseph wanted to make, were going to make an avenge to do all the Conjured things.

tommy cresta: Me and Joseph. Joseph wanted to make. we were going to make like a bench. And do all of the conjuring things. it was going to be like the music box.

Ryan: We were going to do the music box.

tommy cresta: From the first movie. Volek.

Ryan: Yeah.

tommy cresta: And then stuff from the other movies. Yeah, that that has now been agreed upon that we're not doing it.

Ryan: Yeah, that is a lot of things. scale

tommy cresta: So, yeah, it was a wild day.

Ryan: so you yeah

tommy cresta: And now we're terrified that we've brought a demon into the And you're going to the O'Hara Woods to film local thing.

Ryan: And you're going to the O'Hara Woods, too. but By the way, local thing. But that place is fucked up.

tommy cresta: But that place fucked up. Yeah, they arrested Satanists there.

Ryan: Yeah.

tommy cresta: It's a whole history around those woods.

Ryan: is it's It's a very scary world.

tommy cresta: And the Brin Lodge has a

Ryan: I mean, there's like...

tommy cresta: entity that's like a shadow figure that they I mean there's like clips I went and looked there's like clips of people catching like shadow things and stuff like that I'm very excited Connor was like Connor's the one who's going Connor's been on the podcast before Connor's the one who's going with me um Connor's like he's like what so like are we leaving like if we catch like something i was like no i was like you can go wait in the car I'll finish the whole thing by myself um but yeah I'm very very excited the camera's infrared so like

Ryan: one like shadow

Ryan: ah i

Ryan: He's like, what? So like, are we even like, we can't do it now. No, you're saying. Yeah. Yeah. It should be good. Just one cameras.

Ryan: Connor get a camera too or no.

tommy cresta: We'll be it in the dark.

Ryan: Yeah.

tommy cresta: I'm very excited though.

Ryan: should be good just one camera is conor get a camera too or no no

tommy cresta: Just one camera? Is or not? one camera. And I think where're the way we're going to it is that the REM pod is going to be in the doorway of most of the rooms.

Ryan: i think we're the way we're going do

tommy cresta: so I have cat balls too. So there will be like marking. Because it's going to be dark.

Ryan: so couldn yeah so we are

tommy cresta: So the way I'm going to use cat balls on like the staircases. So in the dark, it will light up anywhere.

Ryan: Yeah. It goes up.

tommy cresta: I've been testing out this equipment.

Ryan: Yeah.

tommy cresta: When I've seen the REM pods go off in videos, I'm like, okay.

Ryan: Really? Yeah.

tommy cresta: Like, if someone's if someone moves their leg within 10 feet of that REM pod, it could go off.

Ryan: so

Ryan: it goes out yeah

tommy cresta: The REM pod radius is this far.

Ryan: so

tommy cresta: Like, if the mic's the REM pod, that has now made me so much more scary.

Ryan: that

tommy cresta: If that REM pod goes off, I'm going And the cat balls, I had it on my concrete floor.

Ryan: yeah had

tommy cresta: You have to, like, stomp to get those things to go off.

Ryan: really

tommy cresta: Yeah. And I think I'm going to video at the beginning of the video. going to show everyone how the... I got...

Ryan: yeah

tommy cresta: I evan have someone editing it, too. It's like, i don't have worry about anything an actual no like an actual like youtube editor make it look all nice and fancy yeah yeah october 2nd britain lodge very nervous fingers clear great i'm doing i'm bringing holy wood i'm not getting got but yeah that was a long intro oh what snack did you want to try while we're think i'm going to start with these uh the barbecue onion rings

Ryan: ah You pay somebody in Colin or an actual editor. Nice. Yeah, sweet. Yeah. You're going to do great, sweetheart.

Ryan: It's going to be gone. It's going to be fun. But yeah.

Ryan: I think I'm going to start off with these onion ring looking things. Yeah. Barbecue ah ring things.

tommy cresta: I think I got to try the those spicy mango things that we...

Ryan: Go for it. Yeah, the ones you open already.

tommy cresta: We opened these before we started recording.

Ryan: These are the most gluten-smelling.

tommy cresta: We didn't try any of them yet. They're spicy mango gummies.

Ryan: They're so strong.

tommy cresta: And what I'm telling you, i'm these aren't even that close to my face right now.

Ryan: These things are way smaller than I thought.

tommy cresta: And Brian can also vouch these. These are the most potent smelling gummy candy.

Ryan: Yeah, they're fine.

tommy cresta: i They are so strong.

Ryan: but these things are way smaller than

tommy cresta: These things are way smaller.

Ryan: yeah fun

tommy cresta: one

Ryan: All right.

tommy cresta: right

Ryan: I would finish this.

tommy cresta: officers be my first choice

Ryan: It'll be my first choice, but not bad at all.

tommy cresta: but um better

Ryan: Not bad.

tommy cresta: I'm gonna

tommy cresta: one this is a good this is good moving by yeah this is this

Ryan: I'll try one. Let me try some of those. this is a good This is a good movie podcast and just eat. is This is movie theater snacks.

tommy cresta: Yeah, these are definitely I would actually take these to the snacks you're not gonna like these They actually got some I like them they got do got a little kick to them though.

Ryan: these are This is exactly this. Yeah. Mango chili gummies. They're fine. I like spicy.

Ryan: Yeah. I like spicy.

tommy cresta: Oh, yeah, I thought you were like mayo spicy white

Ryan: yeah

Ryan: No. No. No,

tommy cresta: no

Ryan: it's good.

tommy cresta: These are good.

Ryan: Yeah.

tommy cresta: They're like, um, you ever have a corn?

Ryan: like

tommy cresta: Corn nuts? Yeah, they're like a big army snack.

Ryan: Yeah.

tommy cresta: They taste like corn nuts.

Ryan: yeah steve Those things are pretty good.

tommy cresta: I like these.

Ryan: It's not like youwi it's just kind of like lingers the spice on your tongue. You don't taste the spice. tastes like mango. But then just swallow it. You're like, whoa, those were hot?

tommy cresta: yeah cool like

Ryan: I like it.

tommy cresta: and just just save so because i say um to joseph um let have some

Ryan: Yeah. alright first snack down.

tommy cresta: I like these. First night down.

Ryan: Winner.

tommy cresta: Winner.

Ryan: That was a winner.

tommy cresta: That's a winner. Those were good. good

Ryan: was good. i like them.

tommy cresta: I know I'm going to fucking hate this thing.

Ryan: I know. The lemon bites?

tommy cresta: The lemon bite.

Ryan: it's It's lemon cake.

tommy cresta: one

Ryan: You're going to be fine.

tommy cresta: I hate lemon.

Ryan: Why?

tommy cresta: I've never let it.

Ryan: You like lemonade? Yeah.

tommy cresta: Well, yeah.

Ryan: Okay. was going to say, who the fuck doesn't like lemonade?

tommy cresta: like done like That is true.

Ryan: Here we go.

tommy cresta: But moving on, we have a news. We have seven bits of news I want to go over. Let me show my mic's actually facing me.

Ryan: Mm-hmm. Acoustic?

tommy cresta: I went old school.

Ryan: Yeah.

tommy cresta: went acoustic.

Ryan: Okay. Oh, yeah.

tommy cresta: I actually printed out my outline today.

Ryan: They should. Yeah, sometimes they don't.

tommy cresta: Yeah, I went acoustic.

Ryan: Yeah.

tommy cresta: ah First off, the Phillies begin a four-game series today against the Mets. They are currently up seven games in the NL East. Phillies are down, though, three their players. And by the time this episode comes out, they actually, three of the games will already be done, I think.

tommy cresta: No, two of the games, today and tomorrow.

Ryan: oh yeah

tommy cresta: I don't know if they – do they play tomorrow? They should.

Ryan: ah sure and

tommy cresta: Tuesday is always a weird one because they don't always play on Tuesdays.

Ryan: like yeah sometimes they

tommy cresta: um But, yeah, I think the Phillies are going to split the series now with the injuries.

Ryan: yeah

tommy cresta: would really like them to sweep. And just making 11 games up and just really punch it out.

Ryan: would be nice. Yeah.

tommy cresta: Really nice if the Dodgers lost another series and we just...

Ryan: Yeah,

tommy cresta: The Dodgers are falling apart.

Ryan: yeah because the bullpen is terrible. That dude, the Yamamoto game, I was watching it like on my phone and Nate's, it was so funny.

tommy cresta: thank to the yo That was one of the most heartbreaking losses. and like my phone

Ryan: I was so happy.

tommy cresta: I can't believe they lost the game.

Ryan: I know.

tommy cresta: I felt bad. at it I was like, oh, poor no. I said the same. was like, oh, no hitter ends. And I was like, oh my god, Sam, they lost. Yeah.

Ryan: Yeah. I knew was going to end too.

tommy cresta: I knew was going end too.

Ryan: Cause immediately, I mean, yeah ESPN put out like three notifications of, Oh, watch out.

tommy cresta: Because immediately, I mean, ESPN put out like three notifications. So, I'll it. Watch out.

Ryan: Yomoto's got a no hitter.

tommy cresta: Can't say it.

Ryan: You can't say it.

tommy cresta: Can't say it.

Ryan: You cannot say it.

tommy cresta: Break the rule. First reviews.

Ryan: go ahead. Yeah. Yeah.

tommy cresta: Oh, I'm sorry. cut you off. um First reviews for Wake Up Dead Man. Called possibly the best knives out yet with a darker and more emotional story. I'm very excited. thought the trailer looked good.

tommy cresta: Both of them have been great so far. We liked both of them.

Ryan: yeah

tommy cresta: It's been fun because... The first one's definitely more of like an old-school style mystery film.

Ryan: second

tommy cresta: The second one's definitely more fun. I feel like more comedy-style mystery.

Ryan: Yeah.

tommy cresta: And this one, they're going to go darker, more twisted-style story. But it is really good. i like seeing Jeremy Renner back acting again. Especially after the accident and everything like that.

Ryan: Yeah.

tommy cresta: So I'm excited.

Ryan: it's like and we

tommy cresta: And, yeah, I can't wait to see the movie. I don't remember the release date.

Ryan: Yeah.

tommy cresta: but I neither do I.

Ryan: ah Neither do I, but it should be, it's, is it still Netflix releasing it?

tommy cresta: Why? It should be. Is it still Netflix releasing? Yeah, but I think it's doing like the same thing.

Ryan: Yeah. but Yeah.

tommy cresta: It'll have like a shortened run.

Ryan: The theatrical. one Yeah. But Netflix trailers are always like a month before it comes out.

tommy cresta: trails Oh, really? 16 minutes.

Ryan: I mean, you it's usually soon.

tommy cresta: Standing ovation, can.

Ryan: It's not like a normal theatrical release where you get like seven months out, you get a first trailer and you're like, all right, well, this is going to gain steam for about a day and then lose all of it.

tommy cresta: That's a good one. seven months out first this is gonna gain steam for about a day and then lose all of it

Ryan: Yeah. Netflix does it well.

tommy cresta: um excited for frankenstein

Ryan: Frankenstein. I pray to God.

tommy cresta: sixteen minutes

Ryan: It has to be good.

tommy cresta: standing ovation i cant

Ryan: 16. Nice.

tommy cresta: sixteen a good one

Ryan: Apparently, um what's it called?

tommy cresta: fairly to call

Ryan: Smashing Machine got 15.

tommy cresta: Machine got 15.

Ryan: Yeah.

tommy cresta: Yeah.

Ryan: Yeah.

tommy cresta: He's going to win an Oscar.

Ryan: If he does, ah for his speech would be so funny.

tommy cresta: thousands of button review His speech would be so fun. Yeah.

Ryan: You rock.

tommy cresta: The Rock. He just already agreed to do. He just signed on for another Ben Safdie movie.

Ryan: Really?

tommy cresta: Really? He's playing a 77-year-old man.

Ryan: Okay.

tommy cresta: Okay.

Ryan: Sweet.

tommy cresta: Sweet. Dude, I'm so down for The Rock to just take on age twenty four movies.

Ryan: Real roles. Yeah.

tommy cresta: We got our first trailer for Marvel Zombies. I thought the trailer looked so much fun.

Ryan: Yeah.

tommy cresta: Yeah. I love that the way that they did like the this is rated and then it hit the thing as it said TVMA.

Ryan: me me

Ryan: yeah tvm um very yeah yeah well i mean the only thing they really had was the what if stuff in terms of like marvel oh yeah yeah for sure yeah um

tommy cresta: I'm very down. i I'm excited. I like Marvel's new way of doing animation. I think they're finally catching up to DC a little bit. not Not catching up, but I feel like they're improving when I feel like for years it wasn't even in the same universe.

tommy cresta: yeah well mean the only can get really

tommy cresta: I meant like the like early two thousand s what like when it was like Disney XD's animation style and stuff.

Ryan: But yeah, the Marvel zombies look fun.

tommy cresta: yeah the marbles on

Ryan: i The what if stuff.

tommy cresta: what if

Ryan: I watched the first season.

tommy cresta: i watched the first season i don't remember the second season but whatever the zombies won in that

Ryan: i don't remember the second season. But whatever the zombies one in that, that was a fun episode.

tommy cresta: episode

Ryan: know So you do a whole thing in TVMA.

tommy cresta: Yeah. They do a whole thing. TVMA might be good.

Ryan: It might be pretty good.

tommy cresta: Yeah. And Elizabeth Olsen got top credit on it.

Ryan: Sweet.

tommy cresta: Sweet. So I guess she might be the main character of it.

Ryan: Yeah.

tommy cresta: Yeah.

Ryan: Yeah. we

tommy cresta: We got a surprise announcement for a release date of Man of Tomorrow. I dropped my pen.

Ryan: Yes.

tommy cresta: ah Which is July 9th of 2027, the sequel to James Gunn's Superman already.

Ryan: which

tommy cresta: Which I love that they have a turnaround date already.

Ryan: which yeah Oh, yeah.

tommy cresta: Oh, yeah.

Ryan: And that it's still before Batman 2.

tommy cresta: And it's still before Batman. The Batman 2. Oh, my God. But what's crazy is that me and my dad were like looking at it.

Ryan: But when it's crazy, it's crazy.

tommy cresta: It's crazy how long we've waited for the Batman 2. And it's still, i know it's a long time, everyone.

Ryan: so And it's a long time ago.

tommy cresta: Like I know we all want to see it. It's not that further than the wait we did for the Dark Knight and Dark Knight Rises.

Ryan: It's not that long.

Ryan: Really?

tommy cresta: It's only, think it's like eight.

Ryan: It's only, it's like eight. Because eight months.

tommy cresta: I know it's eight months. It's a long time.

Ryan: Which I think is pretty long.

tommy cresta: But I think it's eight months longer. Because it was four years almost.

Ryan: It four years.

tommy cresta: to the It was a little bit longer than four years between those two.

Ryan: Really?

tommy cresta: Which I know different circumstances with the death of Heath Ledger and all of that.

Ryan: which i

Ryan: Yeah.

tommy cresta: Yeah. But still, I'm very excited of Man Tomorrow.

Ryan: so Yeah, I mean, all three of them posted the pictures of them together, so.

tommy cresta: I think it's going to be cool to see Lex because I think they are going to do like the armored up and everything. and Yeah, i mean, all three of them both been pictured together. Yeah, very excited. And I mean, that means that they're going to into pre very soon.

tommy cresta: Yeah, they have to.

Ryan: Yeah, they have to. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, he must have had a script ready to go.

tommy cresta: Yeah. I mean, he must have had a script ready to go.

Ryan: If not ready to go, then like an outline at least, yeah you know?

tommy cresta: If not ready go, it's like an outline. Yeah, he must have been writing it while this was already happening.

Ryan: Because I know it's not true.

tommy cresta: Yeah. ah The paper comes in certified fresh in 86. And I will say the trailer that they did during Thursday Night Football was hilarious.

Ryan: You've watched it multiple times.

tommy cresta: So I think I'm going to watch it. As much as I'm not the biggest Office fan, I think I'm going to watch this. Even though Ryan doesn't believe me when I say that.

Ryan: line i

tommy cresta: I'm not. I've watched The Office one time.

Ryan: ah

tommy cresta: i don't know why you think I've watched it so many times.

Ryan: i know it's not true

tommy cresta: Because not

Ryan: you've watched it multiple times

tommy cresta: You've watched it multiple times. I have not. I've watched The Office one time.

Ryan: so

tommy cresta: There's only been two shows that I've watched beginning to end more than once.

Ryan: Friends?

tommy cresta: Friends. And?

Ryan: don't

tommy cresta: don't

Ryan: know.

tommy cresta: know. One trail, baby!

Ryan: definitely

tommy cresta: um But yeah, I'm excited for the paper. i think it's going to be good. And I mean, the reviews seem pretty positive on it.

Ryan: Yeah.

tommy cresta: Yeah.

Ryan: I always thought it looked pretty funny.

tommy cresta: I always thought it looked pretty fun.

Ryan: I think it'd be fine.

tommy cresta: Yeah. think it would fine.

Ryan: But, um yeah, I guess we'll have to just see if it's actually funny.

tommy cresta: But yeah, I guess we'll to see if it's actually fine. You know mean?

Ryan: You know what mean?

tommy cresta: Because I feel like the reviews for a comedy show like that, where it's going

Ryan: Because I feel like the reviews for a comedy show like that where it's going to be, you know, it could be highly rated for the heart.

tommy cresta: could be highlightd for the heart

Ryan: It could be highly rated for the comedy.

tommy cresta: highlyre rated for the comedy

Ryan: And if they can get that mix of both like The Office did, then it'd be pretty good.

tommy cresta: if they can get that mix of both like Man, the heart's fine in the office.

Ryan: I'm going to clock you in the face.

tommy cresta: I'm excited for the paper.

Ryan: Yeah. um'm I'm excited for the paper.

tommy cresta: I think it's going to be fun.

Ryan: think it's to be fun. It's going to be a nice show.

tommy cresta: It's going to nice show. um I'm excited to see.

Ryan: excited.

tommy cresta: i saw that Vance is in Vance Refrigeration.

Ryan: so

Ryan: Yeah, Bob Vance.

tommy cresta: That's what I'm excited to see. I'm excited to see like how much of a callback it really does. like How much would do we actually see?

Ryan: Yeah. I feel like we're going to get a lot.

tommy cresta: I feel like people are going to show up.

Ryan: I feel like people are going to show up now and again.

tommy cresta: I think Steve Carell shows up.

Ryan: No.

tommy cresta: No.

Ryan: I'm sure they're going ask him.

tommy cresta: I'm sure they're gonna ask him because like,

Ryan: He's like, can I just not?

tommy cresta: can i just not

Ryan: No. now

tommy cresta: Does Jim show up?

Ryan: Probably not, but maybe.

tommy cresta: Probably not, maybe. Just say hi to Arthur.

Ryan: Maybe he just shows up he's like, fucking you guys again?

tommy cresta: Maybe he shows up he's like, fucking you guys again?

Ryan: No, it's the camera guy that was flirting with Pam for a little bit and they got fired.

tommy cresta: it's a camera guy who was flirting with pan for a little bit and then fired.

Ryan: and He's like, motherfucker. Is that guy's back?

tommy cresta: I hate that storyline.

Ryan: I hate him.

tommy cresta: Yeah. Later seasons of Office are terrible.

Ryan: Yeah. They're bad.

tommy cresta: um We got our first trailer, it's something I didn't even notice until today when I was making the outline.

Ryan: we got

tommy cresta: Oh, we got our first trailer for 28 Years Later, The Bone Temple.

Ryan: Yeah.

tommy cresta: Yeah. I didn't see it.

Ryan: didn't see it. You didn't see it?

tommy cresta: didn't see it? No, until today.

Ryan: No. It's been like every ad on YouTube for me.

tommy cresta: It's been like every ad on YouTube for me.

Ryan: Good trailer.

tommy cresta: YouTube Premium? YouTube Premium.

Ryan: YouTube premium, little son of a bitch.

tommy cresta: Son of a bitch.

Ryan: You do.

tommy cresta: You do. It's great.

Ryan: Great.

tommy cresta: It's the best money I've ever spent.

Ryan: Yeah. The best.

tommy cresta: I love YouTube Premium. um It looks, I'm so excited.

Ryan: Yeah, it looks very good.

tommy cresta: Yeah, it looks great. I was surprised.

Ryan: I was surprised. that I knew it was coming out kind of soon, but forgot how soon.

tommy cresta: that I knew it was coming out kind of soon, but forgot how soon.

Ryan: january Was it January February?

tommy cresta: January. January.

Ryan: january

tommy cresta: January. It's just impressive.

Ryan: It's just impressive. like

tommy cresta: And then, and I mean, was that when's the next one coming out then? Oh, no, they haven't greenlit it yet. They haven't filmed it yet.

Ryan: Yeah, no.

tommy cresta: Yeah. yeah

Ryan: But

tommy cresta: Because they need to get this one to make money to get that one approved.

Ryan: boaton yeah yeah but Bone Temple looks good.

tommy cresta: But Bone Temple looks good.

Ryan: For sure.

tommy cresta: It does.

Ryan: It does.

tommy cresta: I'm excited it.

Ryan: i'm I'm excited for it.

tommy cresta: Do we think we get a Killian Murphy in a in a trailer to get people liked so they can get more money in butts in seats?

Ryan: Yeah. Yeah, they'll put him in the trailer.

tommy cresta: they'll him the trailer.

Ryan: Second or third trailer.

tommy cresta: Second or third trailer. Yeah, one of those final trailer ones.

Ryan: For sure. Yeah.

tommy cresta: Yeah.

Ryan: I also, I still don't think...

tommy cresta: Also, I still don't think...

Ryan: Is he going to be like a main character, they say?

tommy cresta: Is he to be a main character this? No, I think he's going to show up in like the third act.

Ryan: No. i knew you was me Yeah, he'll just show up and be like, hey.

tommy cresta: like Set him up to like be like the one of the main ones. of the

Ryan: Third one, yeah.

tommy cresta: Him and the young kid be the main characters.

Ryan: Yeah.

tommy cresta: and The final bit of news here is that TASC, the follow-up to Mayor of Easttown is certified fresh at 85%. Sweet.

Ryan: Yeah. Sweet.

tommy cresta: One of the actors in Mayor of Easttown follows us on TikTok and Instagram. that

Ryan: Does he? Yeah.

tommy cresta: yeah Does he?

Ryan: Shut up.

tommy cresta: Yeah. It's from Hell House follows us. You know the family member The Carmichael's, the one who like owns the property.

Ryan: um

tommy cresta: The guy who's like, it turns out he's bad guy.

Ryan: The guy who's, like, it turns out he's a bad guy?

tommy cresta: Yeah.

Ryan: Yeah.

tommy cresta: He follows us.

Ryan: He follows him.

tommy cresta: and Yeah, he's family chef.

Ryan: Does he? Yeah, he's guy in the quarter zoo?

tommy cresta: Really?

Ryan: Yeah.

tommy cresta: Yeah, a fan of ours.

Ryan: Really?

tommy cresta: Nice.

Ryan: Yeah, he's bad guy.

tommy cresta: You know who else is a fan of ours?

Ryan: Nice. Who's that?

tommy cresta: Who's that? The mom in Skinner Mering.

Ryan: The mom and skedamerink. The mom and skedamerink?

tommy cresta: The mom in Skinner Mering? Yes.

Ryan: You creepy bitch.

tommy cresta: You creepy bitch.

Ryan: What's wrong with you? Fuck that.

tommy cresta: Fuck that.

Ryan: don't like that one.

tommy cresta: I like that one.

Ryan: um kicking that.

tommy cresta: Yeah, she's a fan of ours.

Ryan: Okay.

tommy cresta: She messaged us on TikTok. Does she?

Ryan: Does she?

tommy cresta: Yeah.

Ryan: That's very nice.

tommy cresta: Because she saw a clip where we talked about that that's one of the most traumatizing scenes.

Ryan: she Yeah.

tommy cresta: songs And she's like, I'm a huge fan. She's like, thank you.

Ryan: no That's very nice.

tommy cresta: i was like, god work we love that scene.

Ryan: I'm sorry for calling you a bitch, but you are a scary bitch.

tommy cresta: You are a scary bitch in that scene. There's nothing against you as a person. But that scene, scariest scene ever.

Ryan: gar Yeah.

tommy cresta: I'm sure you're very nice.

Ryan: I don't like it. I like that one. I'm sure you're very nice.

tommy cresta: Yeah, but that scene, terrifying.

Ryan: Yeah, that's

tommy cresta: um And yeah, that's all the news we have. And before we go into the kind of review, we still one bit before we do. And that is our stu little are start and cut.

Ryan: This is the latest we ever did this. 22 minutes in.

tommy cresta: Hey, we had the – we ate – Oh, well, we have to do another snack.

Ryan: we got well yeah We had to eat snacks. You had ghost adventure things. oh We had to do another snack? Alright.

tommy cresta: So what snack are you going to this time?

Ryan: I'm going to do Cheetos.

tommy cresta: I'm going to do a cheetah.

Ryan: But they're football Cheetos.

tommy cresta: They're football. I'm going to do the lemon bite.

Ryan: It's called soccer.

tommy cresta: It's called soccer. It's overplayed.

Ryan: historically Just clear.

tommy cresta: I'm doing my lemon bite. Wait, what? It was called like a moist lemon bite though, wasn't it?

Ryan: It's a lemon cake. don't

tommy cresta: Oh, it is wet.

Ryan: oh

tommy cresta: know what it tastes like?

Ryan: You what this tastes like? Cheetos.

tommy cresta: Cetus. Cetus?

Ryan: Cheetos? Cheetos.

tommy cresta: Cetus. You said cetus. You're talking my mouth.

Ryan: I'm talking in my mouth full.

tommy cresta: these are This is wet.

Ryan: This is wet. It's supposed to be moist.

tommy cresta: coffee It's wet through the package.

Ryan: It's fresh.

Ryan: That's some cheetos.

tommy cresta: That's a pretty good one.

Ryan: That's fruit.

tommy cresta: I'm not a lemon person, that's...

Ryan: not a lemon fruit. It's lemony.

tommy cresta: It's lemon. It's like refreshing lemon.

Ryan: like It tastes like the Girl Scout cookies.

tommy cresta: Never had it.

Ryan: The lemonade ones? They're good.

tommy cresta: People talk shit on those, but I like those lemonade go stuff.

Ryan: People talk shit on those, but I like those lemonade Girl Scout cookies. The mints are still the best.

tommy cresta: They maybe sold that.

Ryan: Always gonna Me.

tommy cresta: Damn. Those are good cheetahs. They don't taste like one with cheetahs, though.

Ryan: don't taste them?

tommy cresta: They're like...

Ryan: No, little different.

tommy cresta: I like them.

Ryan: like

tommy cresta: Probably less cancerous kind of stuff.

Ryan: Probably less cancerous chemicals.

tommy cresta: I looked at the calorie things for the whole box.

Ryan: like them. Mm-hmm.

tommy cresta: This box is the same amount calories as if you had a three-pack of crumpets and one honey bun.

Ryan: this box

Ryan: Yeah, this is what is this 45 grand wait calories in this 40 I don't need

tommy cresta: Like if you ate everything. yeah That's how bad U.S. food is for you. I'm not going to lie.

Ryan: forty five wait and be calories in

Ryan: forty

tommy cresta: how it works.

Ryan: um

tommy cresta: Spain? calorie I just know what Devin gave me. He told me the info. Thank you, Devin.

Ryan: don't know if they have some some different kind of like measurement system for food.

tommy cresta: Shout out to my boy. I'm excited for this thing because I know this is just simple.

Ryan: They could. him

tommy cresta: Okay.

Ryan: sorry

tommy cresta: Starting cut list, Ryan. yeah

Ryan: Yep.

tommy cresta: There's another theme for this one. This goes off of our episode today. So starting us off. The Nun 2. The 2? too Yes. That's bad movie.

Ryan: Cut that movie. That's a bad movie.

tommy cresta: No, it's not.

tommy cresta: Annabelle Creation.

Ryan: I'm a creative.

tommy cresta: That's the Farmhouse one, right?

Ryan: That's the farmhouse one, right?

tommy cresta: Yes.

Ryan: Okay.

tommy cresta: Okay.

Ryan: It's another not great movie, but it's kind of, there's there's parts of it that you're like, all right, decent.

tommy cresta: It's another not great movie, but it's kind of, there's parts of that you're like, alright, he's crawling on the ceiling.

Ryan: when he's crawling on the ceiling and turns like, it's good.

tommy cresta: It's good, like that.

Ryan: and I like that part. Yeah.

tommy cresta: I feel like this is going to be horror movies.

Ryan: I feel like this is going to be horror movies.

tommy cresta: Okay.

Ryan: Am I on to sum there?

tommy cresta: Am I on to something? Yeah, you're on to something.

Ryan: Is this James Wan produced horror movies?

tommy cresta: Is this James Wan produced horror movies? Yeah.

Ryan: At least.

tommy cresta: least.

Ryan: Okay. All

tommy cresta: Insidious 2. I'm going to keep Insidious 2.

Ryan: They're all conjuring related maybe. Yeah.

tommy cresta: yeah

Ryan: Yeah.

tommy cresta: pretty much yeah

Ryan: Yeah. feel like I can cut creations.

tommy cresta: can cut creation

tommy cresta: insidious too

Ryan: see still

tommy cresta: cities too

Ryan: Insidious too. It's pretty good movie.

tommy cresta: pretty cool

Ryan: I like, I like the city. I'm going to keep insidious too.

tommy cresta: im gonna even and say still

Ryan: I like insidious too.

tommy cresta: i like that it takes place

Ryan: I like that. It takes place right after the first one.

tommy cresta: right you see a lot

Ryan: You see a lot. You see things from the first one.

tommy cresta: see things from the first one you're like

Ryan: You're like, Oh, that explains that.

tommy cresta: that

Ryan: It's cool.

tommy cresta: yeah your favorite one, right?

Ryan: I like it. I think it was.

tommy cresta: think it was. Yeah, I feel like that's one you put.

Ryan: It's been like a year.

tommy cresta: Annabelle Home.

Ryan: I don't remember.

tommy cresta: Annabelle Comes Home. that three?

Ryan: Annabelle Combs. Is that three?

tommy cresta: Yep.

Ryan: Keep.

tommy cresta: You love that movie.

Ryan: Keeping that all day. Love that shitty ass movie.

tommy cresta: love that shitty-ass movie. Hey, so it's the I think it's like the third highest movie in the Conjuring franchise.

Ryan: It's just so fun. Yeah.

tommy cresta: ah The Conjuring.

Ryan: Keep.

tommy cresta: Banger.

Ryan: It's an actual good movie.

tommy cresta: It's movie. Joseph thinks it's boring, and the third best one in the franchise.

Ryan: board

tommy cresta: ah quad Ilegate.

Ryan: What does he like more?

tommy cresta: I think he thinks it's the worst of the Conjurings.

Ryan: He likes two and three better than one. Why?

tommy cresta: He thinks it's boring.

Ryan: Okay, well, I don't.

tommy cresta: I don't agree. The Nun 1. agree.

Ryan: The Nun 1?

tommy cresta: don't like the Nun 1.

Ryan: I think this setting is cool.

tommy cresta: Is that 3 and 3? 1, 2, 3. Yep.

Ryan: Other than that, it's not a great movie.

tommy cresta: not a great

Ryan: So I'm going to cut it.

tommy cresta: i' gonna cut

Ryan: What do I got?

tommy cresta: i agree i don't like the nu one is that three three

Ryan: Is that three and three?

tommy cresta: ah one two one to the yep

Ryan: Yeah, that should be three and three.

tommy cresta: You have four left.

Ryan: Yeah.

tommy cresta: The Conjuring 2.

Ryan: come

tommy cresta: until keep

Ryan: Conjuring 2, I'll keep. It's a good movie.

tommy cresta: I love The Conjuring 2.

Ryan: Yeah, I like i like Conjuring 2. It's a good one.

tommy cresta: The Curse of La Llorona.

Ryan: See, I'm keeping... curtain now cut that piece of shit movie.

tommy cresta: that That movie is so terrible.

Ryan: It's so terrible. Oh my god, yeah.

tommy cresta: because I just remember that was the day we watched The Nun, The Nun 2, and The Curse La Llorona.

Ryan: Yeah.

tommy cresta: The Conjuring The Devil Made Me Do It.

Ryan: um

Ryan: this is tough because I'm even.

tommy cresta: stuff cause i don' even

Ryan: That's a movie I don't and don't hate, but it's not very good.

tommy cresta: that's a movie don't <unk> hate but it's not very good. Yeah, it's very middle of the road for me.

Ryan: Yeah.

tommy cresta: And i don't know what else you could be throwing.

Ryan: And I don't know what else you could be throwing at me.

tommy cresta: I feel like I always hate on it more than I do when I watch.

Ryan: because

tommy cresta: I'm like, it really isn't horrible.

Ryan: Yeah.

tommy cresta: It just so it really suffered from being at the height of COVID.

Ryan: Because

tommy cresta: and

Ryan: you could be hitting me with another Insidious.

tommy cresta: Because you could be hitting me with another Insidious. could. You could be hitting me with the first Annabelle which is worse than that.

Ryan: You could be hitting me with the first Annabelle, which is worse than that.

tommy cresta: I could.

Ryan: But I'm going to say, i'm going to cut that and say you're going to give me Insidious 1 and i'm going to keep that.

tommy cresta: I'm going to say i'm gonna cut that and say you're gonna get me in cities one You were right. I hit you with Insidious 1.

Ryan: Yeah, come on now.

tommy cresta: Yeah, come on now.

Ryan: You know, either there I looked in your eyes and I said, this guy, I can read his brain right now.

tommy cresta: You know what looked in your eyes and this guy, I can read his brain right now.

Ryan: The curse of the curse.

tommy cresta: So your start list was Insidious 2, Annabelle Comes Home, The Conjuring, The Conjuring 2, and Insidious.

Ryan: The curse.

tommy cresta: Your cut list was The Conjuring, The Devil Made Me Do It, The Curse of La Llorona, The Nun, Annabelle Creation, The Nun 2.

Ryan: and and

tommy cresta: i completely agree with your start cut list.

Ryan: i

tommy cresta: I'm not gonna lie. I think... but beside i Maybe I switched Insidious 2 and then Nun 2, but it's very close.

Ryan: Yeah.

tommy cresta: I really like the Nun 2.

Ryan: I know you like them too. It's bad. Yeah.

tommy cresta: I think that made my surprise list. Because I was very surprised how much I enjoyed

Ryan: yeah Yeah, it was bad. It's like, turns into Indiana Jones for no reason. You gotta get, you gotta to get Steve Lucy's eyes.

tommy cresta: I love it.

Ryan: Yeah.

tommy cresta: I said that to you from like the beginning. I was like, it's like Indiana Jones.

Ryan: Stupid.

tommy cresta: See? no idea I don't agree.

Ryan: I'm good.

tommy cresta: But... Yeah, good job. I think you did. think it was pretty good. Good job, baby.

Ryan: Thank you. Now conjuring last rights.

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tommy cresta: you get nice least this is about the population capital

Ryan: You know what the, the area in square miles is?

tommy cresta: You know what the ah area in square miles is? ah No, isn't the population like 43? No. Damn. 46.

Ryan: No.

tommy cresta: No. Damn it, I don't know.

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tommy cresta: 47.

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tommy cresta: You know what language they speak? and Spanish? That's right.

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Ryan: No way they're watching Sky High in 2025.

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tommy cresta: I'm going to

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Ryan: It's a little chocolate cake looking thing.

tommy cresta: chocolate cakebook again

Ryan: I place this now.

tommy cresta: shit

Ryan: What are you doing?

tommy cresta: You know unrolling it

Ryan: I

tommy cresta: don't like this stuff, but I'm not gonna make you try them Holy fucking sour Oh

Ryan: don't like shower things.

Ryan: Yeah, don't want that.

tommy cresta: rock

Ryan: Take this.

tommy cresta: oh

Ryan: It's a little chocolate cake.

tommy cresta: oh chocolate but

Ryan: It's good.

tommy cresta: the

Ryan: It's good.

tommy cresta: like

Ryan: I like that.

tommy cresta: Fucking Christ that was one of

Ryan: Drink more apple soda water.

tommy cresta: more apple so

tommy cresta: no joke, I was of the most sour thing I've eaten in my entire life Why is it like a potato bun?

Ryan: don't

Ryan: want that. i

Ryan: Oh, it's good though.

tommy cresta: Oh

Ryan: It's not a potato bum. It's like sugar.

Ryan: It's got, um, it's got Spanish stuff in it.

tommy cresta: got spanish stuff

tommy cresta: Oh, they're croissant.

Ryan: Yeah.

tommy cresta: Yeah.

Ryan: I read cocoa.

tommy cresta: I read cocoa.

Ryan: I know that's chocolate.

tommy cresta: I know that's chocolate.

Ryan: It makes chocolate.

tommy cresta: Cocoa? Cocoa.

Ryan: Good snacks.

tommy cresta: Good snacks.

Ryan: That's six snacks up, six snacks down and a soda.

tommy cresta: That's six snacks up. Five of six. I think five of six hit. Did not like that.

Ryan: You didn't like the sour one?

tommy cresta: Did not like that last one. That shit was really sour. Holy hell.

Ryan: Is there any left?

tommy cresta: Yeah.

Ryan: I'll eat like a little piece.

tommy cresta: I'll take some of that.

Ryan: I'll eat a little tiny.

tommy cresta: What was your favorite snack of today? see that

Ryan: Honestly, that that chocolate cake was good. The lemon cake was good too.

tommy cresta: what

Ryan: I like that lemon cake.

tommy cresta: That lemon cake was...

Ryan: That was very good.

tommy cresta: That was very good. I really liked them. i would actually i would actually, if I saw the mangoes things again, I would buy them again.

Ryan: oh

Ryan: Oh yeah, they weren't bad at all.

tommy cresta: I would probably buy everything if I saw it except that fucking thing. It's really bitter.

Ryan: It's really good. Yeah.

tommy cresta: Yeah.

Ryan: Yeah, like that. You keep that.

tommy cresta: Yeah, I like that.

Ryan: You keep that right over there.

tommy cresta: I'm not... This is nothing against you. It's just really fucking sour.

Ryan: Yeah. You're allowed to...

tommy cresta: wish Which Devin...

Ryan: You're allowed to not like snacks. That's really fucking sour. I don't like that all.

tommy cresta: Which Devin said. he's like yeah He's like, I can't wait to see you. And he said that's not even close to the most sour thing they were getting.

Ryan: and you can You can eat.

tommy cresta: He said...

Ryan: i don't want that.

tommy cresta: You're trying the Skittle thing with me.

Ryan: You're trying.

tommy cresta: Because he said that he likes sour candy.

Ryan: Because he said it. Right.

tommy cresta: And he said that made him all fucked up.

Ryan: there's There's nothing i hate more than sour shit.

tommy cresta: So you do not like... Wow.

Ryan: yeah I don't even like Sour Patch Kids.

tommy cresta: Do you not... wow um do not I was going to say Sour Patch Kid watermelon.

Ryan: I was going to say. Yeah, I don't like Sour Patch Kids. The watermelon ones are fine because those are not sour.

tommy cresta: watermelon ones are fine because those are not sour. Those are so good though.

Ryan: they're delay yeah they're They're not sour at all.

tommy cresta: My mom found them finally. She would never eat sour candy. She finally ate them and she ate like the entire bag.

Ryan: like Yeah.

tommy cresta: She's like, wow, those are – They're not.

Ryan: The watermelons are great because they're not sour. They're not.

tommy cresta: They're just delicious. um But yeah, thank you to SnackRate for sponsoring this episode.

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tommy cresta: All the snacks were very good except for the fucking one. um But yeah, on to the final part episode, our review of The Conjuring. Les writes, the final film, as I said, in this franchise that started off with The Conjuring, directed by James Wan. This phone one was directed by Michael Chavez.

tommy cresta: He's currently sitting at 6.5 out of town IMDb, 56% critic squirrel Rotten Tomatoes.

Ryan: me

tommy cresta: With Ryan, what do you think it has on IMDb?

Ryan: why

tommy cresta: I'm sorry. what do you think has it has as an audience squirrel Rotten Tomatoes?

Ryan: It has 79.

tommy cresta: It has a 79. Okay. And it has a 79% on Fandango.

Ryan: and

tommy cresta: In 1986, paranormal investigators and Lorraine Warren travel to Pennsylvania to vanquish a demon from the Smurl family home. This would end up being the final case for Ed and Lorraine Warren. This film, of course, stars Patrick Wilson and Vera Farmiga in the famous roles of ed and Lorraine Warren in their final time portraying these characters.

Ryan: and

tommy cresta: Well, portraying these people. And i think this film

Ryan: and

tommy cresta: is Okay. I don't think it's bad, and I don't think it's good. think's okay think I think liked it better than you.

Ryan: I think I liked it better than you.

tommy cresta: I think you did too.

Ryan: i think

tommy cresta: i I think they did the family dynamic.

Ryan: Mm-hmm.

tommy cresta: Great.

Ryan: Great.

tommy cresta: Great. If they're still almost...

Ryan: They're still... Owen Wilson and Fury Farmiga are still the best.

tommy cresta: Fantastic.

Ryan: They're still great.

tommy cresta: it did It was better than the like the third one by far to me.

Ryan: Yes. I agree.

tommy cresta: It it was actually had scary moments.

Ryan: Mm-hmm.

tommy cresta: I think the third one, I really enjoy i do enjoy the third one.

Ryan: think

tommy cresta: I find there are moments I like in that movie.

Ryan: yeah I don't hate that movie.

tommy cresta: But this one actually had a couple scares.

Ryan: but

tommy cresta: But the scares felt too far in between in this one.

Ryan: Yeah.

tommy cresta: While the first and second one I feel like the scares are so... like Which is James Wan. It's very hard to beat those. But at least this one had the family feeling to it that the first two have.

Ryan: Yeah.

tommy cresta: like It felt like you're worrying. Yeah.

Ryan: Yeah. I feel like that is on one hand, the best part of the movie is the family relationships because that it's the best part of the movie hands down.

tommy cresta: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah on one hand best part of the movie family relationship it's the best part of yeah

Ryan: But I feel like on the other hand,

tommy cresta: but i feel like on the other hand it drags the movie down

Ryan: it drags the movie down because this movie being, being the last Conjuring movie.

tommy cresta: because this movie being being the last

Ryan: And let's be honest, it's not going the last Conjuring movie.

tommy cresta: it's not gonna be the last timering movie it's gonna be

Ryan: It's going to be the last in the Warren story.

tommy cresta: yeah cause i think that it's gonna show they're gonna keep

Ryan: Yeah. They're going to keep making Conjuring universe movies, but, um, Sour's coming back up.

tommy cresta: but crooked man baby Sound's coming back up. Yeah.

Ryan: Um, yeah.

tommy cresta: What was I saying?

Ryan: What was I saying? Oh yeah.

tommy cresta: Oh, yeah.

Ryan: Um, I feel like this movie being the last one in the series, the final installment, they kind of had to,

tommy cresta: I feel like this movie being the last one in the series, the final installment, they kind of had to send off Ed and Lorraine in the way that they did, like really finish the story and really hone in and just make a movie that was very much family focused for them.

Ryan: send off Ed and Lorraine in the way that they did, like really finish the story and really hone in and just make a movie that was very much family focused for them. But I feel like if you're going to do that,

tommy cresta: But I feel like if you're going to do that, that's good and I want to see that and I think they did a very good job it in this movie.

Ryan: That's good, and I want to see that, and I think they did a very good job of it in this movie. But focusing on that kind of takes away from the horror stuff, so it kind of drags the movie down on the horror side.

tommy cresta: But... focusing on that it kind of takes away from the horror stuff. So it kind of drags the movie down on the horror side.

Ryan: So it's just a weird movie where I think it was really good, and they they obviously just wanted to make you know finish off and Lorraine's The Warrens' story.

tommy cresta: So it's just a weird movie where I think it was really good and they obviously just wanted to make, know, finish off Ed in the Rain's The Warrens story.

Ryan: I think they did a really good job of that.

tommy cresta: think they did a really good job that.

Ryan: But that, unfortunately, just kind of drags down the horror parts of the movie and makes the movie less...

tommy cresta: But that unfortunately just kind of drags down the horror parts movie and makes the movie less entertaining a little bit.

Ryan: entertaining a little bit. But I still, so that's why I'm kind of like conflicted because on one hand I really liked it and on the other hand I was kind of bored by it.

tommy cresta: But still, so that's why I'm kind of like conflicted because on one hand I really liked it and on the other hand I was kind of bored by it.

Ryan: But, you know, it's kind of weird because it's hard to like knock different parts of the movie because it was trying to be something that, you know, the past movies haven't been.

tommy cresta: But, you know, It's kind of weird. It's hard to knock different parts movie. It was trying to be something that the past movies haven't been. Yeah, especially when you look at this franchise in a whole, like The Conjuring Universe, and it's so...

Ryan: Yeah. You look at the franchise and it's so, it really is important.

tommy cresta: It really is so poor like in it its total.

Ryan: in the Yeah.

tommy cresta: And it's really held up by the two James Wan movies.

Ryan: Oh, yeah.

tommy cresta: yeah

Ryan: Yeah.

tommy cresta: Because we've said this before, the Insidious franchise is by far the better franchise.

Ryan: we

Ryan: oh yeah

tommy cresta: At least in our opinion. It's not even close to me. but In quality, I think Insidious 3 is good. I think 1 and 2 are really good. i think whatever you want to say about 4 and 5.

tommy cresta: But I mean, Conjuring 1 and 2 are very good movies. And I think Conjuring 3 is fine. i think this is good. And then Annabelle 1 and 2, I really don't like.

tommy cresta: 3, I think me, you love that movie.

Ryan: It's just fun.

tommy cresta: It's just so much – yeah, like it's such a fun time.

Ryan: It's not very good. Yeah. Yeah. Mm-hmm.

tommy cresta: And then The Nun 1 is horrible.

Ryan: and

tommy cresta: Ligerun is terrible. And like there's so many bad movies in there.

Ryan: and

tommy cresta: And I think that this movie at least I walked out and I was like, okay. was like that was enjoyable though. Like I was happy with that. And I felt like they got their final ending.

tommy cresta: Like I was – I felt like they were happy with that. Like ah Vera and Patrick Wilson. Like they were okay with that being the end.

Ryan: Yeah.

tommy cresta: Yeah. Like didn't feel like that they won't need, they they were like, that's it, that's how we have to end our franchise.

Ryan: Yeah.

tommy cresta: And I feel like Michael Chavez did a very good job.

Ryan: Yeah.

tommy cresta: Yeah, especially coming in and taking over James Wan's like baby.

Ryan: Especially coming in and, you know, taking over James Wan's, James Wan's like baby. Yeah.

tommy cresta: Yeah.

Ryan: a Good job of just holding it down and keeping it, you know, kind of the same feeling from the first two.

tommy cresta: did a good job just holding it down and keeping you know, kind of the same feeling the time. Yeah, and i and I think he's done the best job out of everyone who's directing this franchise besides James Wan.

Ryan: yeah

Ryan: Yeah.

tommy cresta: Because I think out of all the movies, he's done the best movies in this franchise that aren't James Wan.

Ryan: Yeah. Yeah.

tommy cresta: That aren't Conjuring 1.

Ryan: That aren't Conjuring 1. Yeah.

tommy cresta: Yeah, because you don't like The Nun 2.

Ryan: Okay.

tommy cresta: Because he's done Annabelle 3, Nun 2, Conjuring 3, and now Conjuring 4.

Ryan: Mm-hmm. Yeah.

tommy cresta: So what I think are the only redeeming ones outside of The Conjuring's. And i think Michael Chavez does a decent job outside of, I think, a couple times in this movie, they do push it a little too.

Ryan: He also did Llorona, but he did La Llorona.

tommy cresta: La Llorona. Did he do La Llorona? He did Llorona.

Ryan: Yeah.

tommy cresta: Oh, Chavez. He did.

Ryan: He did. No, he did.

tommy cresta: No, he did.

Ryan: Devil May Me Do It, Last Rites, Nun 2, and La Llorona.

tommy cresta: Definitely he did it last night. He did do Animal 3.

Ryan: He didn't do Hannibal 3.

tommy cresta: Oh, yeah? Who did an Animal 3? That's good question.

Ryan: Good question. I'll figure it

tommy cresta: Because now want to know. I thought that is who did. Damn, I gave you credit. Animal 3? I don't know who 3 now.

tommy cresta: um I felt like a couple times, which is what he did in Devil Made Me Do It, he goes a little far with some CGI sometimes.

Ryan: Yeah. Yeah.

tommy cresta: Like he does in La Llorona as well. But all in all, this one had at least a look to it that felt closer to the look of like The Conjuring 2.

Ryan: he

tommy cresta: It had like that like color scheme that James Wan likes where it's like that blue hue to everything.

Ryan: yeah

tommy cresta: So I did like that. I liked that it at least looked like The Conjuring. While 3 doesn't have that look to it. it has like a shininess to it.

Ryan: yeah

tommy cresta: yeah This still had it a little bit, but at least it looked... It had like at least a feel to the movie. Yeah, like they were back in a real

Ryan: Yeah, like they were back in a real house. It wasn't COVID where they had to go on green screen and everything.

tommy cresta: Yeah. Yeah, it was all on green screen.

Ryan: yeah yeah um anddir

tommy cresta: And this family was more likable than the family in the third one.

Ryan: Yeah.

tommy cresta: Yeah.

Ryan: Yeah.

tommy cresta: I think like the whole cast that they put around everyone.

Ryan: i agreed and we go Yeah.

tommy cresta: But I also felt like this family is kind least...

Ryan: But I also felt like this family is kind of the least you kind of yeah learn about.

tommy cresta: You don't get as much from them.

Ryan: Yeah. And again, because like I was saying, this is you're focused on the Warren family, not not the other family.

tommy cresta: and again, because like was saying... The last two actually. They're focused on the warmth. Yeah. But it was nice seeing Judy more. You know, I'm so shocked that they, I feel bad for the girl who played her in the first two.

Ryan: Oh, yes. Yeah.

Ryan: Yeah.

tommy cresta: Yeah. And she played her in the third one.

Ryan: and

tommy cresta: Because she's in the first three.

Ryan: She's in the first place.

tommy cresta: She's not in Annabelle Comes Home.

Ryan: She's not. No, that's great.

tommy cresta: no that's Grace.

Ryan: Whatever it is.

tommy cresta: McKenna Grace.

Ryan: We can't agree. Yeah.

tommy cresta: And then again, when Judy has a main part, she doesn't get to play her again.

Ryan: Yeah. You're not allowed

tommy cresta: yeah Anytime Judy gets to do anything, they're like, you're not allowed to be her anymore. You're not allowed.

Ryan: to do this. We don't trust you. No.

tommy cresta: I will say, i I don't know what you thought of it.

Ryan: i i um

tommy cresta: I loved the whole wedding. That was like my favorite part of the yeah so it was my whole favorite part of the movie.

Ryan: At the end? Oh, yeah. it's great. was a great standoff. Yeah.

tommy cresta: Yeah, I loved seeing everyone.

Ryan: For sure.

tommy cresta: Did you notice that Valak was there?

Ryan: Was she?

tommy cresta: but Like the actress. she's And she's wearing all black.

Ryan: Oh, no. Really?

tommy cresta: really Yeah.

Ryan: I didn't see that.

tommy cresta: Joseph showed me. She they she was on Instagram.

Ryan: I saw the like the parent the family from the original Conjuring.

tommy cresta: like the The family for the second one's in it, too.

Ryan: Oh, was that them? I knew somebody looked familiar.

tommy cresta: The little boy from the third one's in it.

Ryan: Oh, yeah.

tommy cresta: um James Wan was there, of course.

Ryan: Mm-hmm.

tommy cresta: But it was so cool like that they brought everyone.

Ryan: Yeah.

tommy cresta: Because, I mean, this franise this franchise has made people's careers.

Ryan: Yeah.

tommy cresta: yeah

Ryan: Yeah.

tommy cresta: Those first two. This is one of those hard franchises where you can do like camels.

Ryan: And this is one of those horror franchises where you can do like cameos from different, not only the different demons, but also people who have showed up in the past.

tommy cresta: Yeah. Not the people, but also people who have showed up in the past.

Ryan: Like the guy who got bit in the face in the first one.

tommy cresta: Like the guy who got bit the in the first one. That was cool. I was kind of shocked that he showed up.

Ryan: Yeah. That was funny.

tommy cresta: That was funny seeing and his wife just like, not this fucking story.

Ryan: That was funny seeing his wife just be like, God, this fucking story again when he's trying to tell Tony.

tommy cresta: When he's trying to tell her. I liked him, that kid.

Ryan: ah like that. like you.

tommy cresta: Yeah. Ben Hardy.

Ryan: Yeah.

tommy cresta: what has he What else has he been in?

Ryan: He's been in a bunch of stuff, but I can't.

tommy cresta: He's been in a bunch of stuff. I can't...

Ryan: The whole time, i was trying to do my thing where I'm like, I know him.

tommy cresta: The whole time, I was trying to do my thing. Bohemian Rhapsody.

Ryan: That's it.

tommy cresta: That's it.

Ryan: He played...

tommy cresta: He's the drummer.

Ryan: um Yeah.

tommy cresta: he's not.

Ryan: No, he's not.

tommy cresta: He's the drummer.

Ryan: He's the guitarist.

tommy cresta: He thought he was the drummer.

Ryan: No, he's the drummer.

tommy cresta: No, he's the drummer. Yeah, the blonde one.

Ryan: I'm sorry. Yes.

tommy cresta: Yes.

Ryan: I was thinking of the other guy.

tommy cresta: I was thinking of the other guy.

Ryan: Guy and from the Pacific.

tommy cresta: Six Underground. X-Men Apocalypse.

Ryan: Oh, he's the parkour guy in 600.

tommy cresta: He's the hardcore guy. Yeah.

Ryan: That was a fun movie.

tommy cresta: That was a fun movie. That movie's mid.

Ryan: It's not good, but it's fun.

tommy cresta: It's not good. I don't like that I think I don't like that because I remember i was moving Matt out his apartment and I was so bored.

Ryan: hate it.

Ryan: Yeah.

tommy cresta: um Yeah, exma I don't know who he plays in X-Men Apocalypse because I walked out.

Ryan: He is Archangel.

tommy cresta: He is Archangel. That's a good casting. Damn.

Ryan: Shit Archangel.

tommy cresta: Shit Archangel. Shit movie. oh mean, it's not his story.

Ryan: I mean, it's not his first script, but yeah.

tommy cresta: It's the script. Yeah. I like Ben Hardy.

Ryan: He's Archangel where he's like an alcoholic and just an asshole.

tommy cresta: He's Archangel where he's like an alcoholic. He's an asshole.

Ryan: Yeah.

tommy cresta: You know who he should be?

Ryan: Sure.

tommy cresta: He should be not Green Arrow, his mentor. Like his writer Red Arrow.

Ryan: Red air. Okay. I guess.

tommy cresta: Mia Tomlinson. She did good job as Judy.

Ryan: Yeah, I'd never seen her before.

tommy cresta: Yeah, I've never seen her before.

Ryan: Tell me she didn't look like if Zooey Deschanel and um what's her name?

tommy cresta: Tell me she didn't look like if Zooey Deschanel and what's her name? wrote

Ryan: Rogue One.

tommy cresta: What's her name?

Ryan: What's her name?

tommy cresta: Oh, I see what you mean.

Ryan: Jen. The whole time I was like, who does she look more like?

tommy cresta: The whole time I was like, who does she look more like?

Ryan: Because she looks like a mix between them.

tommy cresta: She looks like a mix between them. They did a good job with the young versions of them too.

Ryan: Yeah, I agree in the beginning.

tommy cresta: yeah Yeah, they were really good. My dad and me both thought it was DH at first. Like, first glimpse of that, was like oh it's de-aged.

Ryan: I thought, yeah, Patrick Wilson, I thought it was DH, but Vera Farmie, she didn't look too much like her,

tommy cresta: Yeah, Patrick Wilson, I Farmiga didn't the voice was really good. I agree, like, the look of Patrick Wilson was better. But the voice that the girl did sounded very good.

tommy cresta: Also, the makeup that they've done on Vera in these last two movies is so good.

Ryan: still good.

tommy cresta: like how much older do they make a look.

Ryan: Yeah.

tommy cresta: They said, Taisa Farmiga was in the wedding.

Ryan: Yeah. Yeah.

tommy cresta: Really?

Ryan: Really?

tommy cresta: Yeah, I didn't see her.

Ryan: Yeah. I didn't know.

tommy cresta: I was trying to find her. Yeah.

Ryan: Yeah. I was just looking at them and I kept poking around me because I was in an empty ass theater.

tommy cresta: just Oh, was it just That's scary. Did the jump scare in the bedroom get you bad?

Ryan: Oh, ah it was just me.

tommy cresta: he's like lifted off the bed?

Ryan: It was just the beginning was the scariest part because my eyes are still like adjusting.

tommy cresta: That was the that got me. Was that the woman? thought it was the axe boyfriend.

Ryan: So I couldn't really see in front of me besides the screen and it was just the dark room.

tommy cresta: i couldn't really see in front of me besides the screen and

Ryan: Fuck.

tommy cresta: what did the jump scare in the bedroom get you bad

Ryan: um

tommy cresta: when he's like lifted off the bed that was the one that got me yeah what you broken through that was

Ryan: Yeah, when she's poking through it, that was the one that got me the most.

tommy cresta: was that the woman i thought it was the axe boyfriend

Ryan: i think it was the older one. I think that was the no i think that was that was the younger woman because she's trying to, she's like crawling on top him.

tommy cresta: think that was the i think that was that was the under one she's trying it she's like growing on top

Ryan: That was her thing.

tommy cresta: thank

Ryan: She was a whore. That's why he killed her.

tommy cresta: Oh, that's who it was?

Ryan: I think it was the younger woman.

tommy cresta: think it the other one.

Ryan: Yeah.

tommy cresta: Oh, me and Jess were trying to figure who was.

Ryan: The one who pops up in the street and Tony swerves of the way.

tommy cresta: one who pops up in the street and Tony sort of... That's the witch woman.

Ryan: That's the mom.

tommy cresta: Oh, it's the grandmom. Yeah.

Ryan: Yeah.

tommy cresta: I'm not going to lie.

Ryan: You got to remember those those ones, they're just people who died there and their souls are trapped.

tommy cresta: You've to remember, those ones are just... They're just people who died there and those trapped.

Ryan: They're not the demons.

tommy cresta: They're not the demons.

Ryan: The demon's just in the mirror.

tommy cresta: The demons just live there.

Ryan: You barely see the demon.

tommy cresta: You barely see them. Yeah, it's the white thing that you never actually...

Ryan: Yes. Yeah, yeah, Which isn't Annabelle.

tommy cresta: Which isn't Annabelle.

Ryan: It's not Annabelle.

tommy cresta: It's not Annabelle. It's not. i think it was just...

Ryan: I think it was just trying to trick...

tommy cresta: Annabelle is what Judy's afraid of. Yeah, so think it was just

Ryan: Yeah, so i think I was just trying to trick her into leaving.

tommy cresta: First of all, again, that's one of the things.

Ryan: yeah

tommy cresta: Michael Chavez, I actually really like you as a filmmaker. Again, that's one of the things.

Ryan: yeah Just let it go.

tommy cresta: Just let it go.

Ryan: It's fine.

tommy cresta: I know it's most like everybody recognizes Annabelle now.

Ryan: i know it's the most, like, everybody recognizes Annabelle now, but just...

tommy cresta: but just

Ryan: and so

tommy cresta: It's a little, but like the scene where it gets really big.

Ryan: I didn't like that at all.

tommy cresta: It's a little too far.

Ryan: As soon as...

tommy cresta: it started to like move, I was like, Tommy.

Ryan: When it when it started to like, move, i was like, Tommy hated this scene.

tommy cresta: I didn't mind that it moved.

Ryan: Yeah.

tommy cresta: i actually thought it was pretty because I thought it was going to turn into the girl, like the scene in a.

Ryan: Yeah. Yeah.

tommy cresta: Annabelle, hate that movie.

Ryan: Yeah.

tommy cresta: You know my cousin. But that scene when Annabelle like turns his head and the door closes and then the girl comes running through with the knife. yeah

Ryan: yeah terrible

tommy cresta: Terrifying sequence. I thought it was going to do that.

Ryan: yeah

tommy cresta: And I was like, oh, that's going to really cool.

Ryan: ah there gets big

tommy cresta: And they just got big. And I was like, this is fucking stupid.

Ryan: yeah

tommy cresta: Again, Michael Chavez really enjoyed.

Ryan: yeah

tommy cresta: I thought this was, again, of very decent movie.

Ryan: again

tommy cresta: And I thought i was very happy that this was, like, this is, it was good enough.

Ryan: it was yeah

tommy cresta: But again, it was a little too far.

Ryan: Just a little bit.

tommy cresta: yeah

Ryan: That scene. Yeah. But I did like...

tommy cresta: like there was But there were some really solid moments in this movie.

Ryan: Yeah. I think Tony...

tommy cresta: I think Tony...

Ryan: the The thing that pissed me off the most in this movie was when Tony went out and got the car started.

tommy cresta: The thing that pissed off the most in this movie was when Tony went out and the car started.

Ryan: And instead of...

tommy cresta: He crashed because he sped.

Ryan: crashed.

tommy cresta: i know, exactly.

Ryan: I know. Exactly.

tommy cresta: Instead backing up for two houses, he had to go and fill the one-eight he

Ryan: Instead of backing up for two houses, he had to go and flip a 180 and drift around.

tommy cresta: Yeah, I was like, that was just too much.

Ryan: And then... he You're an idiot.

tommy cresta: You're an idiot. You crashed because you were going 60 thunderstorm.

Ryan: You crashed. Yes.

tommy cresta: If you were going 10...

Ryan: You crashed. 10?

tommy cresta: You to back up for five seconds, dude.

Ryan: You had to back up for five seconds, dude. You idiot.

tommy cresta: You idiot. Yeah.

Ryan: Yeah, I liked him.

tommy cresta: I really liked his character. I liked that whole storyline.

Ryan: He was good. it?

tommy cresta: The fact that the stillborn stuff was all true and all that, that that was really cool to see.

Ryan: Yeah, that's cool.

tommy cresta: That whole, I was disappointed with my, because I was like, okay, I was like, Michael Chowles likes to do like, he's very much like a visual, like he likes to show the demon.

Ryan: um

Ryan: okay

Ryan: he's very like Yeah.

tommy cresta: Like that's his thing. I was actually excited to see the white demon. so

Ryan: So was I.

tommy cresta: And then they didn't show it, and I was kind of disappointed.

Ryan: We didn't show it. Yeah. yeah

tommy cresta: Because think my biggest issue in this entire movie is the end. Like, the final, like, showdown. Yeah.

Ryan: Yeah, I agree. I wanted a little bit more.

tommy cresta: Like, it was very underwhelming.

Ryan: Yeah, I wanted a little more, especially after you find out that those, you know, the guy with the axe and the his wife and like mother, yeah, they're just they're just pawns that the demon is using.

tommy cresta: Yeah. Or nothing. Yeah, they're just...

tommy cresta: or nothing yeah they're just but just yeah you

Ryan: They don't really mean anything.

tommy cresta: don't really

Ryan: um

tommy cresta: so the fact that

Ryan: So the fact that you see that, like, yeah, you're going to see more of them because the demon's using them.

tommy cresta: you see like yeah you're goingnna see more of them because they're demons using them

Ryan: That makes sense. But you still don't don't really see the demon at the end.

tommy cresta: You still don't don't really see the demon at the end.

Ryan: That kind of sucks.

tommy cresta: That kind of sucks. You don't see it at all, I don't think.

Ryan: yeah I wish it came out a little bit.

tommy cresta: I wish you came out you think you see it only really in the birthing scene.

Ryan: Yeah, it it does the, it crawls out a little bit at one point towards the end, like around the ceiling.

tommy cresta: Yeah. It does the... It curls out a little bit at one point towards the end. Oh, really? Like around the ceiling.

Ryan: But it's the same thing from the when she's giving birth.

tommy cresta: But it's the same thing from the...

Ryan: It's like, here's coming out.

tommy cresta: Oh, when when... Like when it's... They're holding the mirror.

Ryan: Yeah, and it starts like kind of coming out.

tommy cresta: Yeah, starts kind coming Yeah, and he's like, I see it, I see it.

Ryan: yeah yeah Yeah.

tommy cresta: That sequence.

Ryan: No, no, no.

tommy cresta: No, no, no.

Ryan: That was the wife on the ceiling.

tommy cresta: That was the white one scene. Oh, yeah. That was different.

Ryan: That was different. There was another part.

tommy cresta: There was another part. I'm trying to

Ryan: I'm trying to remember exactly.

tommy cresta: But there was... Like that scene was really creepy.

Ryan: Yeah.

tommy cresta: yeah but That's what I'm saying.

Ryan: Yeah.

tommy cresta: like There's moments in this that are really cool.

Ryan: Yeah.

tommy cresta: and But I think all in all, it just yeah there's definitely a couple of jump scares that got me. like I feel like that there's moments to this that really work. i I would have really liked James Wan to directed the end.

Ryan: Yeah.

tommy cresta: like don't Like this movie.

Ryan: Yeah, I agree.

tommy cresta: i um I was kind of shocked he didn't.

Ryan: Yeah, because wasn't what when they announced it, he said he was, wasn't he?

tommy cresta: yeah cause

tommy cresta: He said he was going be very hands-on, so I thought maybe that many was going direct it.

Ryan: he said Okay.

tommy cresta: yeah

Ryan: Yeah, but I guess he was just you know, maybe, or just like, you know, producing it, he's just there every day, you know.

tommy cresta: i guess you i wonder if i wonder if he directed like a scene maybe. just like you

tommy cresta: I knew he was on set the whole time because it did feel much more this felt way more to the at least to me it felt much more James Wan than the third one did yeah but again that could also be the whole yeah because I guess it did this felt more like the Conjuring style than any of Chavez's other attempts

Ryan: Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Ryan: James Wan. Yeah, I agree. but again you Yeah, I agree.

tommy cresta: yeah um but what what would you say you would give this

Ryan: I think like a flat 70, three and a half stars.

tommy cresta: I think like a flat 70, three and half stars.

Ryan: Cause no, you gave, you give but I thought you gave three.

tommy cresta: I give it three and a half. thought give it three. thought you'd give it three. Oh, okay.

Ryan: Okay. Okay. Yeah, I thought it was...

tommy cresta: Yeah, I thought it was...

Ryan: I thought it was i told you...

tommy cresta: I think I gave it three and a half. Maybe gave it three.

Ryan: Post I thought you gave it three.

tommy cresta: I thought you'd give it three. But I thought it was a good end to and Lorraine's story.

Ryan: But um I thought it was a good end to Ed and Lorraine's story. I think it was that.

tommy cresta: I think it was that. I just wish, you know, it was a little bit better in the overall movie department.

Ryan: I just wish, you know, it was a little bit better in the overall movie department. But I think for ah the end of a series, i think it's it's okay.

tommy cresta: But think for ah the end of the series i so okay

Ryan: It's not the best.

tommy cresta: the best

Ryan: It's not the worst.

tommy cresta: the worst and i think it was just it was ah it was a very good sunup i think the end of

Ryan: And I think it was just... it was ah It was a very good send-off. I think the end of the movie was very good with the wedding and you get Lorraine having her dream vision of what their life is going to be.

tommy cresta: was very good with the wedding and you gave marine

tommy cresta: almost got a tear out of me.

Ryan: It was nice. i was happy to see that.

tommy cresta: that Yeah. Almost, almost got me to cry.

Ryan: Yeah. Yeah.

tommy cresta: i was, I was like sitting there.

Ryan: It happens.

tommy cresta: was like, was like, there's no way I'm going to cry at a Conjuring movie.

Ryan: 68. Yeah. Yeah.

tommy cresta: Um, I gave it 68.

Ryan: Yeah.

tommy cresta: So I mean, we're, we're pretty close.

Ryan: sixty eight

tommy cresta: I mean, cause I, I think I did give it three cause I was like, I don't want to go three and a half cause I feel like five stars is so hard cause I feel like the difference between three and a three and a half to me is such a big gap.

Ryan: it's

Ryan: yeah

tommy cresta: But then I want to go like 3.25.

Ryan: Yeah, it's really just...

tommy cresta: It's like every half of the episode is 10.

Ryan: It's like every half star is 10. Yeah.

tommy cresta: Yeah. um Yeah, because i did I definitely don't think it's a 50.

Ryan: Yeah. I don't... No.

tommy cresta: I feel like the people who have said, like oh, this is terrible.

Ryan: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

tommy cresta: like i feel like you're being really harsh. I'm definitely like closer to what Raiders was saying.

Ryan: yeah like

tommy cresta: they like like Every movie doesn't have to be like perfection. like There's movies that just fun. like This was an enjoyable movie that had really heartfelt moments. had a couple of scenes where people jumped like I him crawling on top of him.

Ryan: yeah

tommy cresta: joseph was cackling when scene when she was at the end of the bed cause i got like airtime i was not so cause i thought it was me like one of the scares where like he's floating and then it cut to him and she was gonna be like next door

Ryan: Yeah.

tommy cresta: i didn't think it she was gonna be at the end of the bed

Ryan: didn't Yeah, yeah. I did like the shot when he's like in the mirror you see him crawling on top of him.

tommy cresta: ah did like the shot when he was like

tommy cresta: Yeah, that was really cool.

Ryan: Yeah. That was cool. like that.

tommy cresta: But there was a lot of like really cool filmmaking to it. like Michael Chavez did a lot more like handheld than he normally does.

Ryan: Yeah, especially with using the mirror, like shot like when the baby toy is floating up.

tommy cresta: actually

tommy cresta: shot like toys floating up that Yeah, yeah like when they like lowered it.

Ryan: That was cool. Like, they use a lot of mirrors.

tommy cresta: But again, it he has that like look to some of his shots, though.

Ryan: yeah

tommy cresta: like When she lowered it and then you see the grandma.

Ryan: It's a little too, like, glossy. Yeah.

tommy cresta: Yeah, it's like a gloss.

Ryan: Yeah.

tommy cresta: And I think if there is someone there.

Ryan: yeah

tommy cresta: I hope it is. But I feel like he puts like, instead of makeup, there's like a CGI-ness to it.

Ryan: yeah Yeah, exactly.

tommy cresta: Yeah, exactly. Yeah, like a visual effects he puts over it.

Ryan: Yeah. but just like They probably are in makeup, but he just touches it up, and I think that hurts it.

tommy cresta: just like, we probably are in makeup, but he just touches it Yeah, and I wish maybe you just wouldn't do it. Yeah.

Ryan: Yeah.

tommy cresta: Because the scariest makeup in these in any of the movies is Peshiba.

Ryan: Yeah,

tommy cresta: Yeah. In the first one.

Ryan: in the first one. And that's just makeup.

tommy cresta: It's so scary.

Ryan: so It's good.

tommy cresta: Yeah, and i I think we both just love like the classic makeup look to things. Yeah.

Ryan: Yeah.

tommy cresta: And especially, like, the first one is so good because it's all, like, there's barely any CGI.

Ryan: And especially like the first one is so good because it's all like there's barely any CGI in it.

tommy cresta: Oh, it's so minimal.

Ryan: If there's any.

tommy cresta: Yeah, it's just it's just real shit.

Ryan: Yeah. It's just it's just real shit. Like there's real.

tommy cresta: They're really just dragging people across the room and, like, pulling people's hair.

Ryan: They're really just dragging people across the room and like pulling people's hair.

tommy cresta: Although when she turns into Beth Shiba, that's just her and makeup.

Ryan: Although when she turns into Bathsheba, that's just her and makeup. Like it was it was really good and it feels real.

tommy cresta: yeah It was really good, and it feels real.

Ryan: That's why and what makes the movie so good.

tommy cresta: That's what makes the movie so good. Yeah, when the ball comes in, it's late. Someone's sitting in that area going and tossing the ball over into the dark.

Ryan: Yeah. Tossing it.

tommy cresta: Yeah, the little girl is literally on like a wire set that they pulled up.

Ryan: They killed that dog. Yeah. Just dragging her around.

tommy cresta: That they didn't tell the other girls that they were going to do. that That movie is so good. And the behind the scenes is wild. like watching it. they He's so good. I can't wait for his next movie.

Ryan: James Owen.

tommy cresta: I don't know when he's going to do one again, if he does one again.

Ryan: Yeah.

tommy cresta: but Yeah, because he does.

Ryan: Or we'll just keep producing. i mean he He's just got a good touch. Yeah.

tommy cresta: He's so good, though.

Ryan: Mm-hmm.

tommy cresta: I like Malignant.

Ryan: like

tommy cresta: I think it's a little crazy. it' i haven't watched it.

Ryan: it's a i I haven't watched it, but I've heard it's like a fun horror.

tommy cresta: I've heard it's like fun. It's wild.

Ryan: Yeah.

tommy cresta: It's like an action movie more than is like a horror movie. I think, again, people were like, oh, it's James Wan.

Ryan: Yeah. i

tommy cresta: Mark it as a horror movie.

Ryan: Yeah.

tommy cresta: It's more like a thriller. um But with this, i I think I agree with you. There's no way this is the end of that universe.

Ryan: No, they're going to milk it.

tommy cresta: I think they're going to make a Crooked Man movie eventually.

Ryan: Yeah.

tommy cresta: Like, there's so much more you're going to do.

Ryan: like yeah

tommy cresta: And um if I remember correctly... Don't Tony and Judy do investigations?

Ryan: Who?

tommy cresta: and real Judy Warren.

Ryan: me

tommy cresta: I'm 90% sure.

Ryan: Do they?

tommy cresta: I don't know.

Ryan: i don't I don't know.

tommy cresta: I think she does like ghost investigations in the real life. like ah Couldn't you just have them step up and do like another? like i like That's how I feel like they're going milk it.

Ryan: like Yeah.

tommy cresta: But I don't think you should because I think Vera Farmiga and Patrick Wilson are why these movies.

Ryan: do

Ryan: They're why it was successful.

tommy cresta: People like them.

Ryan: People like them.

tommy cresta: Yeah. Absolutely.

Ryan: Yeah, absolutely.

tommy cresta: Did you see how much money this movie made?

Ryan: Yeah.

tommy cresta: It's opening weekend?

Ryan: I heard it was like top three.

tommy cresta: I heard it was like three. $160 million. Yeah.

Ryan: Yeah.

tommy cresta: That is wild.

Ryan: and They're making 20 more of these movies. They're never going stop. But...

tommy cresta: It's crazy, especially coming off of the but third one, which, i mean, people hate, did not, look I mean, know it has like a sick, we're saying as if it's like a bad movie, it has like a 50 something.

Ryan: it's crazys sir

Ryan: People do not like you. say

tommy cresta: like

Ryan: Yeah.

tommy cresta: Yeah. But, people love horror, horror will never, just has that hold.

Ryan: But it's still... Mm-hmm.

Ryan: Just fun.

tommy cresta: Yes, it does.

Ryan: Yes, it does. um

tommy cresta: Um,

Ryan: Yeah, i don't I don't know what they're going to do in the future.

tommy cresta: Yeah, i don't know what they're going to the future.

Ryan: I feel like they're just going to...

tommy cresta: I feel like they're just going to...

Ryan: Maybe they won't.

tommy cresta: Maybe they won't do another one. maybe Maybe James Wan really does protect it.

Ryan: Maybe they won't.

tommy cresta: Maybe they won't, yeah.

Ryan: Yeah, but maybe they just like pick and choose like different ghost investigation stories that have nothing to do with It's like, oh, in the Conjuring universe.

tommy cresta: Or maybe they just pick and choose different ghost investigation stories that have nothing to do with it. I would actually... Conjuring Universe.

Ryan: You know what I mean?

tommy cresta: See, I'm okay with that.

Ryan: Yeah, if you just do completely independent stories and never...

tommy cresta: Yeah, if you just do completely independent stories, you never...

Ryan: the

tommy cresta: And let people make their own movie.

Ryan: Yeah, maybe like mention the Warrens now and again, but bla never they never show up again.

tommy cresta: Yeah, maybe mention Warrens now again. They never show up again.

Ryan: and don't ever want to see them again.

tommy cresta: I don't ever want to see it. Yeah.

Ryan: you know like That's it.

tommy cresta: Yeah. Yeah.

Ryan: Or maybe they do like a call.

tommy cresta: maybe and you like

Ryan: like Like the end of the movie, they were saying, like beerform their Lorraine was still saying, like every now and again, we call somebody and help them out.

tommy cresta: like play me in movie they were saying like from and yeah

Ryan: But they never went anywhere.

tommy cresta: be okay with that

Ryan: I'd be okay with that.

tommy cresta: yeah

Ryan: if you know Like you said, if something happened with like Judy and Tony, if they did something, then they just call her and Vera Farmiga's over the phone like, all right, you need to say this spell and the demon will turn to dust.

tommy cresta: like you said of something ju just call own meet people the

Ryan: like, okay, thanks, mom.

tommy cresta: thanks ma

Ryan: You got it.

tommy cresta: During the dust.

Ryan: That's fun.

tommy cresta: I love her.

tommy cresta: She knows she has a band.

Ryan: She does?

tommy cresta: She does? Yeah.

Ryan: We good?

tommy cresta: We good? Yeah.

Ryan: Okay.

tommy cresta: Joseph was showing me today. they sing She just released a song on Friday and they do like the Polly has ah lost her pocket at the end of the song.

Ryan: Oh, really?

tommy cresta: Oh, really? Yeah.

Ryan: That's pretty cool.

tommy cresta: It's pretty cool. She was so good as Olivia Spano.

Ryan: She was so good as Olivia Soprano. She's still, you should watch it.

tommy cresta: Never saw it. You should watch. It's not a great movie.

Ryan: It's not a great movie. It's, it's a decent movie.

tommy cresta: It's a decent movie. and

Ryan: It's a terrible Sopranos movie, but she is so good as she is the exact same character.

tommy cresta: That's why I won't watch it. But she is so good. She is the exact same character.

Ryan: You just hate her immediately.

tommy cresta: She's good. and She's amazing in everything.

Ryan: She Yeah.

tommy cresta: oh she plays Tony's mom, right?

Ryan: Yeah. Olivia.

tommy cresta: God.

Ryan: She's such a bitch.

tommy cresta: She is amazing in everything, isn't she? yeah.

Ryan: Oh yeah.

tommy cresta: She's great actress.

Ryan: She's a great actress.

Ryan: Yeah.

tommy cresta: Yeah.

Ryan: Joey Diaz is good in it too.

tommy cresta: WD is good too. God.

Ryan: It's fun.

tommy cresta: You know what else she's fantastic in? The fucking Departed. i always regret She's so good in The Departed.

Ryan: I always forget that's her. Yeah. ah she She is good in The Departed. um

tommy cresta: The boy in the striped pajamas. She's in that?

Ryan: She's in that? Oh, she's the mom, isn't she? Yeah.

tommy cresta: Yeah. She's in Sinister?

Ryan: Is she?

tommy cresta: she?

tommy cresta: No, she's not.

Ryan: Maybe she like pops up.

tommy cresta: Maybe she's the top stuff. So is her and Ron Livingston are in it.

Ryan: I don't know.

tommy cresta: Are they in the second one?

Ryan: um Owen Wilson's good actor too.

tommy cresta: thought it wasn't

Ryan: Just bring that up.

tommy cresta: What made you think of that?

Ryan: Because he's in the movie too. he's i don't think he's as good.

tommy cresta: Patrick Wilson?

Ryan: That's what I meant.

tommy cresta: that's what i' mean

Ryan: Patrick Wilson. God damn it.

tommy cresta: Me and my dad were talking about Patrick Wilson.

Ryan: Owen Wilson is good too.

tommy cresta: I was like, when you think of Patrick Wilson, it's crazy. This dude is in two of the most successful horror franchises of all time. And Aquaman.

Ryan: and

tommy cresta: And this is just since 2010.

Ryan: Ocean Master. Yes.

tommy cresta: And that's it I can't tell you another Patrick Wilson movie.

Ryan: can

Ryan: Watchman.

tommy cresta: Watch it. I couldn't. i like I never think of that. And that's not true. Fan of the opera.

Ryan: He is in Phantom of the Opera.

tommy cresta: That's it. He's fantastic as Raoul.

Ryan: Kissed 17-year-old.

tommy cresta: He did. You

Ryan: he

tommy cresta: you know what's funny?

Ryan: He did.

tommy cresta: my I was thinking of one of my favorite scenes in the Conjuring movies.

Ryan: This

tommy cresta: Like. this entire universe is when he sings Can't Help Falling in Love.

Ryan: is what he Yeah.

tommy cresta: Yeah. It's just like a heartwarming like scene to me.

Ryan: it's just like He's just a good dude.

tommy cresta: Yeah.

Ryan: Yeah.

tommy cresta: If only Ed Warren was that good in real life.

Ryan: He was a bad person.

tommy cresta: said that to my... I was... And you know what broke my heart?

Ryan: Yeah.

tommy cresta: Is I went and like read more about that.

Ryan: was a bad person

tommy cresta: First, he definitely isn't the best person. But there's...

Ryan: is the how

tommy cresta: It's how much she defended him until the day she died. Like that she truly doesn't believe it

Ryan: yeah

tommy cresta: But then she's like...

Ryan: then

tommy cresta: Because James Wan wanted to talk about it in the Conjuring movies.

Ryan: gene

Ryan: ah

tommy cresta: He wanted to bring up like that the girl accused him of it.

Ryan: Yeah.

tommy cresta: And she's like, no. You're not tarnishing his memory.

Ryan: Yeah, you're not allowed Which is like, as terrible as it is that he may or may not have done that.

tommy cresta: Which is like... As terrible as it is that he may or may not have done that. There's no proof.

Ryan: You still respect Lorraine for being like, yeah, you don't talk about him my my guy like that.

tommy cresta: Yeah. And I guess because she's like... She she loved him. And the fact that she was his caretaker for all those years.

Ryan: Yeah.

tommy cresta: I wouldn't...

Ryan: Oh, and

tommy cresta: If my... My lovely wife. I do not want to live 14 years longer.

Ryan: it's five.

tommy cresta: That's five.

Ryan: no the end the movie said five.

tommy cresta: No, that was 14. no she takes care of him for five years.

Ryan: No.

tommy cresta: He died at 70-something.

Ryan: He died.

tommy cresta: She dies at 90.

Ryan: Yeah. Oh, I thought you meant like he lived after the stroke for...

tommy cresta: oh i think you' like he live No, I'm saying that she lived for 14 more years without him.

Ryan: No. Yeah, yeah, yeah she lived. Yeah.

tommy cresta: I don't want to do that.

Ryan: I don't want to

tommy cresta: um want to die right after. want to die like 10 minutes later.

Ryan: want to die. Yeah?

tommy cresta: Yeah, I don't want to live.

Ryan: Yeah. She died. She's all right. See you.

tommy cresta: No, like, do you ever see this? like there was there's was a couple. They were just married for, like, 90 years. She died, and then Leahy died in the chair next door, like, 20 minutes later.

Ryan: She died and then died.

tommy cresta: It just passed away.

Ryan: Yeah. mean, heartbreak, that's, there's plenty stories to that. Like, heartbreak's a real thing.

tommy cresta: That's what I want. I don't want to live. Don't do that to me.

Ryan: Yeah.

tommy cresta: Fuck that.

Ryan: Fuck that.

tommy cresta: That sounds terrible.

Ryan: That sounds cool. Yeah.

tommy cresta: Yeah. Sounds really sad to have to live.

Ryan: He really said, live without him.

tommy cresta: Hell no.

Ryan: Yeah. Okay.

tommy cresta: Jesus take the wheel at that point.

Ryan: You're gonna be like the ends of fucking Sons of Anarchy.

tommy cresta: I feel like the other a fucking something

Ryan: Just put your hands up, go straight into that chapter trailer.

tommy cresta: I'm going to to ride a motorcycle really shitty.

Ryan: But, oh, I just...

tommy cresta: But ah i I just love these movies.

Ryan: ah just

tommy cresta: Me and Joseph were both... Joseph has not seen this whole franchise, but he loves like the characters of this world.

Ryan: Really?

Ryan: Yeah.

tommy cresta: like He thinks Valak...

Ryan: It's

tommy cresta: And you you don't think she's super scary. aye

Ryan: creepy, but and I've never thought it was crazy.

tommy cresta: He thinks she's terrifying. He's not seen any of the nuns or anything. Really?

Ryan: Really?

tommy cresta: Yeah.

Ryan: and

tommy cresta: Oh, no, he's seen the nun one. He hasn't seen the nun two. He's not

Ryan: He's got to watch none, too.

tommy cresta: He doesn't...

Ryan: She's in it way more.

tommy cresta: Yeah, no, she's in it way less.

Ryan: Yeah.

tommy cresta: i No, no, she is in way more.

Ryan: what Yeah, because she gets real big.

tommy cresta: Which I think is why it's better.

Ryan: real big Then they're like, here's these eyes, you bitch.

tommy cresta: we're like these eyes

Ryan: And then she explodes.

tommy cresta: wash off That scene at the end, i think is awesome.

Ryan: It's fine.

tommy cresta: and It's all practical, which is super cool.

Ryan: and

tommy cresta: It is cool.

Ryan: It is cool.

tommy cresta: But again, it gets too action.

Ryan: But again, like it gets too action-y for you know what I want from these types of movies.

tommy cresta: Yeah. where The fact that it's all wine and they can turn it into blood. its fact that that's like the twist. They're like, the blood of Christ.

Ryan: The blood of Christ. Yes. Oh, yeah, Joe.

tommy cresta: And they light it on fire.

Ryan: yes

tommy cresta: um But yeah, Joseph's very excited.

Ryan: yeah yeah

tommy cresta: He's going to watch it like completely.

Ryan: Yeah.

tommy cresta: He's very excited. I told him I'm very excited to watch them all. Because I do want to watch um i just want to watch like the first two again.

Ryan: Nice. and

Ryan: Yeah.

tommy cresta: Because we were watching a timeline video today.

Ryan: i was like

tommy cresta: And it's crazy how much younger they look. you don't really, like in my head, I'm like, oh, it wasn't that long ago. It was what, 13 years ago now? it 2013? 2013.

tommy cresta: I always mix the Conjuring and Insidious release.

Ryan: Oh, Conjuring was 2013. We're older than that. I think it was 2013. It's 12 years again.

tommy cresta: so is it twenty ah no

Ryan: I want to say it's 2013. Maybe 11. I can't remember. 2013.

tommy cresta: thirteen

Ryan: All right. So 12 years ago.

tommy cresta: i always mix up thechhodary and insidious release

Ryan: Yeah. um

tommy cresta: super joseph watching

Ryan: Yeah. Joseph. Joseph should watch all these movies and then skip Llorona because that has nothing to do with any of these movies.

tommy cresta: us any the father

Ryan: The father. Father. What's his name's in it? I think.

tommy cresta: Conjuring 86 critics score. It's a good thing.

Ryan: It's a good movie.

tommy cresta: It is. I love the Conjuring.

Ryan: Damn good movie.

tommy cresta: You can't tell these are new. What do you think is that?

Ryan: Yeah. What do you think of his death? The priest.

tommy cresta: The priest? I'm not going lie. i thought it was a great scene.

Ryan: Yeah.

tommy cresta: I was not expecting it.

Ryan: thought it was good.

tommy cresta: thought it was good.

Ryan: I thought it was cool how the demon kind of like does that.

tommy cresta: I thought it was cool how the demon kind of like does that.

Ryan: You see all the steps of, you know, like they're teaching the very end, the three steps of demonic possession is the, I forget the first one and then it's oppression and possession.

tommy cresta: You see all the steps of you know like they're teaching Marianne three steps of demonic possession. Possession. forget first one and then it's suppression possession.

Ryan: So you see like in all the parts infestation, you see all those steps throughout the movie.

tommy cresta: So you see like all Infestation. Infestation. You see all those steps around the movie.

Ryan: And that first guy in the very, the opening, the daughter's telling the story of how like,

tommy cresta: That first guy, in the very opening, the daughter's telling the story about the mirror, and then he was torturing him, and then possessed him, he hung himself.

Ryan: brought the mirror in and then it was torturing him and then possessed him and he hung himself.

tommy cresta: And then the priest, you see that very quickly.

Ryan: And then the priest, you see that very quickly. He goes there, he sees the mirror infest.

tommy cresta: He goes there, he sees the mirror, infests, and then he goes to the office, depression, and then possession, and he hangs himself.

Ryan: And then he goes to the office, the impression and then possession, he hangs himself.

tommy cresta: And then with Judy, you see same thing.

Ryan: And then with Judy, you see the same thing. So I thought it was cool.

tommy cresta: So I thought it was cool.

Ryan: They just, they actually do show all the steps.

tommy cresta: They actually did all the steps. thought it was good throughout.

Ryan: That was good throughout.

tommy cresta: Yeah, and i always liked those scenes where, like,

Ryan: Yeah.

tommy cresta: you notice something's like a little off and then it doesn't click at first and then at first your brain does like that little double take.

Ryan: Yeah. and

tommy cresta: And you're like, wait, that's not normal.

Ryan: yeah yeah No, that electric cord is moving really fast. Why is his nose bleeding?

tommy cresta: It was more that like, I was like, why is this person taking this corner so tight with the cord like around the, was like, what the fuck is going?

Ryan: Oh, yeah. Really good. Yeah.

tommy cresta: And I was like, oh my God, it's a fucking thought.

Ryan: and

Ryan: on

tommy cresta: It's not real.

Ryan: yes

tommy cresta: But yeah, I thought it was a really great scene.

Ryan: yeah yeah

tommy cresta: That's what I'm saying.

Ryan: but

tommy cresta: There's moments in this that are really good.

Ryan: really good

tommy cresta: It's just, I feel like in total, it wasn't.

Ryan: yes

tommy cresta: thought

Ryan: i thought I thought it was good overall, but I didn't love...

tommy cresta: No, it's good. I'm not saying it's bad, I'm saying it's not great overall.

Ryan: Yes. Yeah.

tommy cresta: i didn't want to make

Ryan: I didn't love the makeup when Judy got possessed.

tommy cresta: It looked too much like the guy in the basement.

Ryan: I didn't hate it. Evil Dead.

tommy cresta: oh i thought i was gonna say it was ah Yeah.

Ryan: Oh, I thought I was going to say it was just Evil Dead. yeah Really looked like that. They're like red eyes.

tommy cresta: One of the best scenes.

Ryan: She was like running around. I didn't love it. Didn't hate it.

tommy cresta: one of best scene When the mom, the small mother, is doing the laundry.

Ryan: minnesota

tommy cresta: And he's like in the...

Ryan: oh just behind her? Yeah.

tommy cresta: He's like, yeah, he's like standing in the corner. I love those type of scenes.

Ryan: i turned like it's just john wayne you're like oh it's just yeah just build a tension when you know they're there and they're like because you know the ghosts or demons whatever they're there and they don't have to attack you yet that's that's what makes it scary it's watching you right now it knows you're there it knows you know it's there and yet it knows you can do nothing about it

tommy cresta: It's just, those scenes are so much scarier to me when nothing happens. yeah It's just that building of tension. Because you know, the ghosts or demons or whatever, they're there and they don't have to attack you.

tommy cresta: Yeah, it's just watching you. It's watching you now. It knows you're there. It knows you know it's there. I it knows you can do nothing. Yeah. But then, like, a scene I don't like is, like, when she's, uh, Lorraine's running from him, and she's, like, crawling in the blood.

Ryan: Yeah. Yeah.

tommy cresta: And I know it's in her head, but, like, it just felt like a little much for me that she's, like, crawling in blood.

Ryan: Yeah. It's a real thing.

tommy cresta: And, yeah. Like, that's just how my brain always goes.

Ryan: Physical

tommy cresta: Yeah. I, like, I feel like that's why I like the simplicity of, like, the first Conjuring.

Ryan: thing is there.

tommy cresta: That's so just straightforward.

Ryan: Yeah.

tommy cresta: Yeah. She's trying to kill her.

Ryan: yeah

tommy cresta: Demonic possession.

Ryan: real thing

tommy cresta: Yeah.

Ryan: physical thing

tommy cresta: Yeah.

Ryan: there yeah

tommy cresta: yeah

Ryan: yeah

tommy cresta: I do like the scene though where she sees like the sink fill at Whipple and stuff.

Ryan: like

tommy cresta: Like that was cool to me because that's just a vision to her.

Ryan: Yeah, that's, yeah.

tommy cresta: Yeah. Love that scene first of all.

Ryan: It's different when it's, yeah, when it's visions like that versus when it's an action scene with the visions and you're like, okay, this is fine.

tommy cresta: yeah visions like that and action

tommy cresta: yeah i'm fine you're seeing stuff like

Ryan: Like, I'm fine with her seeing stuff. Like, in the second one where she's doing the Amityville house and she's, like, recreating it.

tommy cresta: in thecycl she's doing the amyville house love that scene first

Ryan: It's cool scene, yeah. yeah Yeah.

tommy cresta: So fucked up a little kids just getting shot Yeah Yeah Yeah that I was that seems like I was thinking about it the Audi of a single goal.

Ryan: Mm-hmm. yeah It's just her. um But yeah, I know what you mean when when she's getting chased around by the guy with the ax. It's like you want you want those visions to just be visions and not have her like physically running away from them.

tommy cresta: So scary like seeing all the people die and yeah

Ryan: ah Yeah. I get it. Yeah.

tommy cresta: doubt

Ryan: Yeah.

tommy cresta: i always that scene like i always think about like the idea was say like go so

Ryan: like i

tommy cresta: gary like seeing all like people The scariest scene part of that is when she turns around and the little boy's leaning out. And you first see the kid with the white eyes.

Ryan: yeah

tommy cresta: And like zoom does like the quick zoom in on him and the music hits like the string note.

tommy cresta: That movie's so good. That one has an 80 critic score.

Ryan: Yeah. Second one. It's a good movie too. It's good one.

tommy cresta: It's a good movie. James Wan's just that dude. yeah

Ryan: Yeah.

tommy cresta: What does Saw 1 have? 1 might have a high 70.

Ryan: Saw one. Saw one might have like a high 70.

tommy cresta: Saw 1 is so good. That twist at the end, though.

Ryan: It's a good movie. Oh yeah.

tommy cresta: Saw 1 has a 50.

Ryan: It's great twist.

tommy cresta: 7.6 on IMDb, though.

Ryan: I feel like saw one's going to be lower than you think just because people back then were like, why is this gross?

tommy cresta: i feel want' go be lower anything

tommy cresta: gro

Ryan: 50.

tommy cresta: so one has a

Ryan: All right.

tommy cresta: fifty seven point six on imdv though

Ryan: Yeah, way lower than I thought.

tommy cresta: But I feel like people were reviewing it back then when that didn't exist yet.

Ryan: But I feel like that's people reviewing it back then when that didn't exist yet. Because, I mean, Salt 1, really.

tommy cresta: Yeah, but other movies have went up so much, I feel like, over the years.

Ryan: That's true.

tommy cresta: That's true.

Ryan: don't know.

tommy cresta: 84 audience, though. 3.7 on Letterboxd.

Ryan: Yeah.

tommy cresta: That's a high Letterboxd.

Ryan: That is a high letterbox.

tommy cresta: 3.7? That's a good movie.

Ryan: That's a good movie.

tommy cresta: I love Saw.

Ryan: Simple, effective, great twist at the end.

tommy cresta: fact rachel That twist is so good.

Ryan: That's good. Yeah.

tommy cresta: First time I was so shocked.

Ryan: And the music, too.

tommy cresta: Dun, dun, dun.

Ryan: Instant. Like, let's fucking go.

tommy cresta: i love I listen to that at the gym.

Ryan: Lost. or What does he Game over.

tommy cresta: don't remember. I will.

Ryan: What is it? Is that the line? When he shuts the door.

tommy cresta: It is. I've been drinking it.

Ryan: You lose.

tommy cresta: I did.

Ryan: yeah I'm trying to think.

tommy cresta: I'm not like kind of this warm beer.

Ryan: ah don't remember. Have some more Cheetos.

tommy cresta: thank you sir

Ryan: Eat more Cheetos. Finish your soda.

tommy cresta: i will theres your

Ryan: Finish your apple soda.

tommy cresta: and so

Ryan: It's good.

tommy cresta: it is

Ryan: is.

tommy cresta: um been drinking it

Ryan: It's good. I like that. Yeah. It was cold, too.

tommy cresta: cold to you

Ryan: You popped out of the fridge? Yeah.

tommy cresta: did

Ryan: Nice.

tommy cresta: drink it i'm not like kind of this warm beer

Ryan: Smart. Oh yeah, disgusting.

tommy cresta: Nasty ass. You got anything else for The Conjuring?

Ryan: No, I thought it was good.

tommy cresta: No, don't know.

Ryan: Go see it.

tommy cresta: see it.

Ryan: Go see it.

tommy cresta: Yeah, definitely think everyone should go see it.

Ryan: It's worth it.

tommy cresta: And if you if you like this franchise, you will like this movie.

Ryan: Yeah.

tommy cresta: It is truly, it is for, I think Patrick Wilson was right, it is for the fans of this franchise. If you've never seen these movies, don't just go and watch this.

Ryan: you Yeah.

tommy cresta: You have to know the stories.

Ryan: You're going to miss a lot.

tommy cresta: You're good person.

Ryan: For sure.

tommy cresta: It is crazy. I really didn't... I also didn't know enough about the small family stuff. I thought the mirror was like a fake thing.

Ryan: It's real.

tommy cresta: Oh, Matt Wright took a video of it.

Ryan: Oh. Matt Rife.

tommy cresta: It's...

Ryan: Matt Rife?

tommy cresta: He owns the the Warren house.

Ryan: I forgot he bought all that shit.

tommy cresta: thought bought all that shit. What fucking idiot.

Ryan: What a fucking idiot.

tommy cresta: thought he just...

Ryan: What's he gonna do?

tommy cresta: I thought he bought just the museum.

Ryan: I didn't realize he bought the house.

tommy cresta: i didn't realize he bought the Warren house. he bought And put everything back in the museum.

Ryan: He bought the house.

tommy cresta: Like, it's all in the place. He doesn't live there. He's opening it back up so people can, like, investigate and stuff.

Ryan: He's a dummy.

tommy cresta: Because Judy Warren wanted people to be able to do it, and then someone else bought it and wanted it moved.

Ryan: Because Judy Watt...

tommy cresta: yeah

Ryan: Yeah. Because they were they were moving around.

tommy cresta: Yeah.

Ryan: for They were like...

tommy cresta: Yeah, and he didn't like it. So then he and and a couple of people invested and bought it.

Ryan: Okay.

tommy cresta: So I actually like it for that reason, like, that they wanted it for that.

Ryan: actually and That's cool then. Yeah.

tommy cresta: I think it's pretty cool.

Ryan: Yeah.

tommy cresta: And I did reach out today. I'm Mr. Batwick.

Ryan: I missed you, Matt Reif.

tommy cresta: mr bra

Ryan: Can you...

tommy cresta: you I was like, so we want to we would like to – Ryan would like to touch Annabelle.

Ryan: No.

Ryan: No.

tommy cresta: No.

Ryan: now No, going to be honest.

tommy cresta: No, you're not.

Ryan: I don't want to do that. Why is she?

tommy cresta: Judy Warren was in the movie. What she?

Ryan: Nice.

tommy cresta: You know when they're having the party, the birthday party, and lo Lorraine goes up and hugs the woman sitting on the couch really quick?

Ryan: Yeah. Yeah, that sucks. Yeah.

Ryan: Yeah.

tommy cresta: She's like, oh, hi.

Ryan: yeah

tommy cresta: That's Judy.

Ryan: mr nice

tommy cresta: yeah It was cool seeing her because she didn't have any part of the franchise for a while. Yeah.

Ryan: yeah

tommy cresta: That was because she didn't like people like coming up to the house. cause

Ryan: yeah that sucks

tommy cresta: yeah just didn't Yeah, she didn't want that.

Ryan: yeah

tommy cresta: But now that she's like moved away and stuff, she wanted to be part of it.

Ryan: now

tommy cresta: And she gave Matt Wright, she's like, she's like the only thing I'm going to say, she's like, don't talk to Annabelle.

Ryan: g go

tommy cresta: Don't look at Annabelle. Don't give her any attention. That's how she gets like, she used to see Annabelle at school.

Ryan: gets to you yeah ah sixty

tommy cresta: Yeah. I was like, that is a fucked up childhood. That is terrible.

Ryan: yeah that would suck yeah good old Tony marrying that you're like god damn it this is really worth it then stuck with her it's good

tommy cresta: Yeah, that would suck. Yeah, because she has like the same like... Yeah. God damn it. Damn it. Yeah, good that's a good man right there.

tommy cresta: um But yeah, go see this movie.

Ryan: yeah

tommy cresta: But before we get going, Ryan, what would you recommend to everyone to watch this week?

Ryan: um um I've been watching We Own This City on HBO.

tommy cresta: I've been watching We Open This City. Very good.

Ryan: Very good show so far.

tommy cresta: I haven't finished the album.

Ryan: I haven't finished yet. I'm on episode five, I think. But I watched, yeah, I watched Hostiles last night.

tommy cresta: Oh, you only have one episode left. I watched Hostiles last night.

Ryan: Christian Bale, Rosamund Pike.

tommy cresta: With... me rosemon pla Oh!

Ryan: It's good movie. Weston. When he's a civil war captain, transporting the Native Americans.

tommy cresta: Yeah. yeah

Ryan: Very good movie.

tommy cresta: Very good.

Ryan: Very good movie.

tommy cresta: I saw that in theaters.

Ryan: Violent.

tommy cresta: Did you?

Ryan: Did you?

tommy cresta: Yeah, when I was a little. Little, I was like 15.

Ryan: Yeah, wasn't too long ago. I had no idea the fucking cast.

tommy cresta: I had no idea. Fucking cast. Oh, that's insane.

Ryan: It's wild.

tommy cresta: It's wild.

Ryan: It's Bale, Rosamund Pike.

tommy cresta: It's Bale, Rosenblatt Pike. Is it McConaughey in it?

Ryan: No.

tommy cresta: No. No. But then it's Jonathan Mabers, Chalamet's in it.

Ryan: Then it's um Jonathan Majors, Chalamet's in it. Very young, and he's just playing a French guy, which is very funny.

tommy cresta: Very young. He's like a French guy, which is very funny. but

Ryan: but um And then ah Jesse Plemons.

tommy cresta: And then Jesse Clemens.

Ryan: I'm trying to think also Native American actors that I had recognized immediately, but I can't remember their names because they're they're not in a ton of movies, but guys who I've seen plenty of times and I'm like, Oh yeah, he's good.

tommy cresta: I'm trying to think. Also, Native American actors that I had recognized immediately by camera. and

tommy cresta: He's good. I like that guy.

Ryan: I like that guy.

tommy cresta: Yeah.

Ryan: um Yeah.

tommy cresta: Yeah, good movie.

Ryan: Good movie. Worth a watch. It's a good, it's a good Western and it's a good story.

tommy cresta: Yeah. It's a good Western, and it's a good story.

Ryan: Good human story with good Western, you know, violence.

tommy cresta: Good human story with good Western violence.

Ryan: Yeah.

tommy cresta: Wait, now want to do this movie with my boy. It's also beautiful movie.

Ryan: It's also a beautiful movie.

tommy cresta: They're just out in the planes just filming.

Ryan: It's just, they're just out in the planes just filming. Very pretty.

tommy cresta: Oh, really? Oh, yeah.

Ryan: Oh, yeah, it's all just the...

tommy cresta: It's all just movie. Oh, yeah. It's what's-his-name director, right? Yeah.

Ryan: um

tommy cresta: Scott Cooper.

Ryan: Scott Cooper.

tommy cresta: Oh, that's not who I thought to were.

Ryan: No. Very good movie. um

tommy cresta: I'm going recommend Bone Tomahawk.

Ryan: Bone Tomahawk?

tommy cresta: Bone Tomahawk?

Ryan: That's a fucked up movie. You know, Puff brought that up the other night.

tommy cresta: Yeah. Really?

Ryan: ah because He didn't watch it, but he saw the scene, you know, chopped in half.

tommy cresta: Yeah. It's top of them yeah

Ryan: Yeah.

tommy cresta: my boy, Patrick Wilson.

Ryan: It is Patrick Wilson.

tommy cresta: It is Patrick Wilson.

Ryan: Fuck. forgot.

tommy cresta: And Kurt Russell.

Ryan: Yep. Kurt Russell.

tommy cresta: David Arquette, Richard Jenkins, Matthew Fox. It's very good cast.

Ryan: Good cast.

tommy cresta: Very good movie. If you guys haven't seen it, go watch it.

Ryan: Yeah.

tommy cresta: I'm trying to find where you guys can watch it. i saw

Ryan: I saw it on Netflix not too long ago, but I don't know if it's still on there.

tommy cresta: It's on ZumuPlay, Tubi, Pluto, Philo, Hulu, Disney+.

Ryan: It may have been. Not Netflix. There you go.

tommy cresta: There you go. no now

Ryan: Mickey Mouse.

tommy cresta: why did Why was that all the way down?

Ryan: Bones on the hole.

tommy cresta: Why did I have to go through all those other places first? um But yeah, what's the next thing we're going to be doing?

Ryan: yeah

tommy cresta: um

Ryan: Alien Peacemaker.

tommy cresta: Oh, Alien and Peacemaker, episodes five and six of Alien.

Ryan: Yeah. like Yeah. Yeah.

tommy cresta: Three and four of Peacemaker?

Ryan: yeah

tommy cresta: Yeah. Yeah? So that'll be next week.

Ryan: yeah

tommy cresta: And then what's the next movie we're reviewing? That's your question.

Ryan: That's a great question.

tommy cresta: Him. Are we going to see him?

Ryan: Are we going to see him?

tommy cresta: Yes. We're have see him?

Ryan: We have to see him.

tommy cresta: We're ones who put Nate on the

Ryan: You're the one who's been hating on that movie constantly.

tommy cresta: Actually, it's in my notes what we're reviewing.

Ryan: actually

tommy cresta: I talked about it with our friends over at Snackery.

Ryan: Isn't. Oh, right. Yes. so we're goingnna review

tommy cresta: So we're going to review the long walk.

Ryan: We could go.

tommy cresta: We can do the special.

Ryan: we could do long walk. I do really want to see. We could do the dude. Perfect special. Why not?

tommy cresta: No. September 15th. We're reviewing the long walk.

Ryan: Long walk.

tommy cresta: Long walk. Yeah.

Ryan: Perfect.

tommy cresta: Yeah, so September 15th we'll do the long walk plus Peacemaker and Alien Earth.

Ryan: Yeah. Yeah. It's it's real this time. Yeah.

tommy cresta: um So that would be a long review for you guys. And then we'll do Alien Earth Peacemaker.

Ryan: yeah

tommy cresta: And then September 29th, Alien Ranking episode.

Ryan: yeah

tommy cresta: yeah It's finally happening.

Ryan: it's it's real this time

tommy cresta: It's real this time. It's real this time.

Ryan: yeah

tommy cresta: Finally getting there. And October 2nd, going to the Britain Lodge. And that video...

Ryan: Oh, September 26th, The Strangers, Chapter Two.

tommy cresta: September 26th.

Ryan: Yeah,

tommy cresta: Dude, that movie looks atrocious. Like, it looks...

Ryan: it looks awful.

tommy cresta: Oh, yeah, you saw the trailer.

Ryan: doing

tommy cresta: Dude, you know what looks good? Did Dream Eater play before? Dude,

Ryan: I got there like five minutes before we started.

tommy cresta: mean Dream...

Ryan: Which one movie?

tommy cresta: We're getting a screener for it. Dream Eater?

Ryan: What's Dream Eater?

tommy cresta: It's a found footage movie. It's this dude has, like, sleep paralysis problems.

Ryan: Hmm.

tommy cresta: And these people come to, like, help him. And mean something's wrong with the dude. And it's been getting Chuck's all and a bunch of other like horror guys.

Ryan: Yeah.

tommy cresta: But I've been like talking to them for a couple months, like the people that made it.

Ryan: Yeah.

tommy cresta: And they're like, oh, we're so excited. And we should be getting a thing soon. It looks fucking wild.

Ryan: Looks scary. What was it called again? Dream Eater?

tommy cresta: Dream Eater.

Ryan: Alright, I'll watch the trailer.

tommy cresta: It looks nuts.

Ryan: Oh,

tommy cresta: But it's it's now it's Eli Roth Presents Dream Eater.

Ryan: sweet.

tommy cresta: His company is releasing it. Distributor. producing like

Ryan: Producing it.

tommy cresta: releasing it

Ryan: Okay.

tommy cresta: disributor

Ryan: Gotcha. It's the apple water.

tommy cresta: um But yeah, thank you guys so much for tuning into this week's episode.

Ryan: Apple.

tommy cresta: Again, thank you to Snackrate for sending us these awesome snacks.

Ryan: Yes.

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Ryan: half a gri good

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Ryan: taste

tommy cresta: Fuck the Mets.

Ryan: yes

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Ryan: Alien, episodes five and six, ah Peacemaker three and four, and Long Walk.

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