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Jacob Is A Bad Guest, Part 2
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I'm again joined by my buddy, Jacob. Today we discuss our favorite games, games we dislike, problems at work, Playstation vs Xbox, and more!
Let us know what you think by emailing mildlyfrustrating@gmail.com
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Introduction to the Stupendously Stupid Podcast
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Speaker
Hello and welcome to the stupendously stupid podcast. My name is Dylan Rael and my guest today is Jacob Nixon. Go ahead. You can introduce it if you want. What format do you have? I mean what format? I don't read. I hate you.
00:00:30
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the mildly frustrating podcast. All right, I'll do it. Are we rolling? Yeah. Hello, everyone. Welcome back to the mildly frustrating podcast. I'm your host, Jacob. And my guest today is Dylan, who is the host.
00:00:50
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of the very popular Mildly Frustrating Podcast. Dylan, welcome to the show. I need to mind your business and find your place in this world. Well, my place is as host of the Mildly Frustrating
Challenges of Co-hosting a Podcast
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Podcast. Now, Dylan, as the host of the Mildly Frustrating Podcast, what do you find frustrating? About this podcast? About this podcast? The fact that you're on it is, number one, very frustrating. Really?
00:01:17
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I'm the host, but you're also the host. Well, if I think about last week, I want to say that you're coming out Apple pretty hard. Yeah. And I'm kind of an Apple diehard fan. And I don't know if Alan would appreciate it. He's very Samsung oriented and Android oriented, but I think even he would be pretty upset with the way you came at Apple.
00:01:39
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Are we talking about Asher Allen? Because I don't know. I don't know who that is. Asher Allen, the cornerback from the Minnesota Vikings. Yeah, I don't know who that is. Who retired a long time ago.
00:01:52
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Why would I know who that is if he retired? Well, I mean, he was a pretty impressive player. You've already lost me. Oh, right. Well, anywho. Well, I appreciate you hosting this podcast, even though I'm the host of this podcast. No problem, man. It's my pleasure to host this podcast, Mr. Host. Thank you. I appreciate you allowing me to host this podcast. Well, you are appreciated. Well, it's nice to have you on and have me on, to be quite frankly. Well, it's nice to have us both on.
00:02:21
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Honestly, it's refreshing. So what do we talk about last time we talked about? Phones we talked about the Sports many of the sports fantasy sports. Yeah, we talked about Jenna Jenna
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All right. Well, I feel like that's a very, uh, sketchy stuff. Uh, so we talked about fantasy football, fantasy basketball, our draft that we had our fantasy women. Yes, but that was probably cut out. It's a different sport. Yeah. Um, one that we all lose. There's no winners here. So kind of getting into be more, I guess, technically frustrated.
00:03:04
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So, we didn't get very frustrated last episode. We were very passive about things. I was. Your voice, for one. Wow, that hurts. I mean, I'm frustrated with the same thing. You were crying after. I don't express it a lot. I have a lot of nightmares about it. We've been following this theme of refreshing. Who has? I think, well, me, as the host.
00:03:30
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Thank you for hosting, by the way. No problem. Thank you for hosting. Anywho, yeah, refreshing. And I think your voice is very refreshing. Let's move on with the show. As the host, I have to keep things going. But now I'm going to move over to my host, Dylan, and you take it away. So you're going to move on by moving it to your other host. I'm moving it and delegating.
00:03:53
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Okay, so maybe a little bit more outwardly frustrating this this here this here second round of podcast and
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So we're going to talk maybe a little bit about video games just here to start with.
Fallout 76: A Polarizing Game
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There's been kind of a polarizing opinion about this game. It is not a sequel, but one of a long line of series of video games. There's been four games. There's been two games in the series that aren't technically one, two, three, or four. There's been a mobile game that's pretty popular.
00:04:34
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You probably don't have anything I know about. It's an online exclusive. You're only allowed to play it online. I have no idea what you're talking about. Fallout 76. Fallout, okay. Have you played it yet? I haven't, but I have a lot of friends that have played it. Okay, what have you heard about it? I mean, even though there are a lot of things about the game that are very, very wrong,
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Uh, from what I've heard, it's a lot of fun to play. Uh, I think that, who have you heard this from? Uh, one of the friends, one of my friends that I actually work with, they're lying to you. They actually said that it's, it's actually a lot of fun to play with. When was this? I mean, even before the update came out where they added, um, AI, I guess.
00:05:28
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Mmm, they add in little things the NPCs are delayed. Yeah But again like I I've heard that it's it's actually it's it's fun it's not Again, that's that's exactly what I told I told my friend when when he said I should play it. It's the fact that I honestly didn't believe him and
00:05:54
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I was like, I'm not gonna waste, because at that time it was still, I think, $60. Now it's probably, you know, $13. Yeah, it's pretty cheap.
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But yeah, I'm not gonna waste that kind of money on a game that feels empty. Have you played any of the other Fallouts? I played Fallout 4. Did you like it? Fallout 4 was good. I don't think I finished the story. Wow. But it was a lot of fun to play. The main reason I finished the game was because I just borrowed my brother's disc. I gotcha.
00:06:24
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And he wanted it back so sad But yeah, I I don't like games that are empty that feel empty That that was my biggest gripe with have you ever play watchdogs? Mm-hmm
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It's the fact that you're in an environment where you should feel entertained, and maybe that was the aesthetic that they were going for in the game, but you felt this empty feeling inside.
00:06:57
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I mean, you just felt you didn't you didn't feel attached to the game. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it just felt empty. Yeah, the world felt empty. Yeah. Everybody was kind of doing the same thing. And that's what I feel like Fallout 76 was going to be, is just going around, you know, in this post apocalyptic world or whatever. That's a follow up to be fair. Yeah.
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But at least with Fallout 4, you had interesting characters. You had an interesting storyline. And even though I loved Watch Dogs as a story, immediately after the story ended, I was like, well, what's the point of playing this game? And especially with games nowadays, you have to have some kind of replayability. And you have to have some reason to keep playing it.
00:07:48
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I think that's the perk of like DLCs and things like that. It's just kind of pushing the replayability. And I just, I don't feel like no matter what Fallout 76 is gonna do,
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the updates that come with it, the DLC, I don't feel like it's ever going to be a game that I'll be interested in playing. How about you? How do you feel? I can stay hopeful that it will turn into a game that I'm interested in playing. At the moment, it's exactly what you said. It leaves me feeling very bored, and I guess in the way you put it, empty, that there's
00:08:22
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There's almost no point to it. It feels very much like you're accomplishing the same missions. It's a, hey, go here, do this mission, and then we'll give you a couple points. And you're welcome. You don't get emotionally invested at all. It feels very pen and paper, here's the things you need to do, and we'll let you know when you're done.
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There's no, you know, and the other games is very story driven. It's, there's a huge overarching, you know, here's the main characters, here's the secondary characters, here's the story, here's why you're doing this. If you want to, you know, save your family, go do this. If you want to not save your family, you do this. There's, there's just a lot involved in this. Their games are so great. And Fallout 76 was just,
00:09:06
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It was almost a, it almost felt like a add-on to Fallout 4. It was, it's hard for me to justify it as its own game, and it was very disappointing to play it. It was, you know, you go into, it felt like
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the missions you'd be doing in a Fallout 4 game after you went through the story. It's like, hey, this is the reason you'd go do the story where you do this mission, now go do it. And you skipped
Replayability and DLCs in Modern Gaming
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all that when you were in Fallout. It's like filler episodes of a really good TV show where you're like, we don't really need this.
00:09:43
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but it's the entire game. Yeah. And that really takes you out of it. You know, it's like, especially for me, you know, being, being an adult, having a life, having a job, you know, you want a video game that, that you think about, you know, while you're at work, I can't wait to come home. You need a reason to play it. Yeah. And with games like that, it's like, I mean,
00:10:09
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Do I want to play a game that feels like I'm constantly playing side missions? Yeah. And not even the good side missions. Yeah agreed. Like the the freaking races you know at the yeah that you wait until the very end of the game to get 100% you know completion of so you get the freaking badge. Yeah.
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And you're like, I really don't want to play this. Yeah. But I kind of have to. Like that's that's how it feels. Like just from the things that I've watched, the reviews that I've seen, that's the kind of feel that I feel like Fallout 76 is giving off. Yeah. It's it's like, oh, hey.
00:10:47
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uh you just talked to this computer and it said you should go clear this place because there's a lot of animals there and there was once a camp over in this area you should go and see if there's any supplies there and you go and you're like oh hey there's a couple animals and a couple like scavengers there and you get rid of them and
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Oh, I found these supplies. Please go let the computer know that you went there. And you go click, yes, I, you know, I went to this area and that's it. There's, and it gives you points. It's not, there's really no incentive to play the game. You're never emotionally invested. That was my biggest.
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right with the game. They're supposed to add the NPCs, the little more emotionally invested characters to kind of get you more involved, but that was delayed until 2020. So we'll see what that adds, if any, quality as far as giving you an incentive to play. It's yet to be seen. I'm hopeful. Again, it's as bad as a Fallout game can be because Fallout is very fun.
00:11:49
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it's it gives you a lot of reasons to play just by itself so i can only fault a fallout game as much as you can it's it's devoid of story but it's fallout is very fun to play so i did buy fallout i played it or fallout 76 i played it it's fun to play but it gets very boring because you have no reason to it's like yeah this mission was good but it's
00:12:13
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only as good as the mission i played 10 minutes ago yeah so if they can give me and the general player a little bit more reason and incentive to play i think that'll that'd be a huge step forward and in the especially in the longevity of this game into the next game it you know if they're not going to put out a game for another two or three years then
00:12:35
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they have to give me some reason to play this game and other people some reason to play this game it has a lot of potential it just feels like they skipped a lot it's half a game it's the side missions without the main story is what it really is yeah again i feel like a game like that has a lot of potential i just think that
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I
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I mean, how often has that worked for anybody?
Single-player vs. Online Multiplayer Games
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Yeah. You know, I mean, like that's like how how Red Dead Redemption was with the online and the beta that they had for it. Like everyone was super excited for it. And then you immediately cut it on and you're like, oh, this is this is terrible. Like, why would anybody play this just for the fact that I don't want to play with hundreds of other people.
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don't know
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I want to have a good story. And if I do play online, I want to play with my friends. Yeah, that's it. And then maybe, you know, mess around with with other people that I don't know and mess with them. But to have an entire game dedicated to just that and that being your only selling point like you. It was a dumb idea for them not to have some kind of backup for it, you know, some some some kind of other reason to to play the game.
00:14:13
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So yeah, I really do hope that with the new update, with the new content that they're going to put out for it, that it does get better. I'm a huge Fallout fan. I really hope that things improve. Their stories are so great. Their missions are great. Their gameplay is great. I feel like they just missed the bark. They misinterpreted what the community wanted. We do want a online game.
00:14:41
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I'm not gonna debate that at all. There's definitely a market for the online game.
00:14:49
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but there's no reason for it if you're going to skip the rest of the game. You're skipping 75% of the reason that people wanna play online. You say, even if they just went back to Fallout 4 and put online mode in it, you're meeting 100% of what people wanted. So if you make a new game with, you think about just games in general, if you make a game with a great story but your multiplayer is awful,
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Nobody's gonna play the multiplayer just gonna play the story. Yeah, and they skip that and just made a multiplayer and we're like, yeah, we hope this great and The multiplayer was bad. Yeah, it's I mean, it's not awful. It's okay They'd had definitely has its bugs, but it's just a void of quality and content So hopefully that gets better
00:15:36
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yeah so kind of staying in the same area of video games what are your personal favorites recommendations what's your what are your go-to video games what's some of your favorite ones to play you know even if it's just genres what's what do you think of when you think of video games um well i think for personal favorites i'd have to say that uh and this is a very very unpopular opinion
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Pac-Man. Yeah, yeah. All the Bomberman. Miss Pac-Man.
00:16:13
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No, I absolutely love the the Batman Arkham series. Great games. I mean, I absolutely love Arkham Origins. That's personally one of my favorite favorite games, just for the fact that we do get a really, really well told origin story for that character in general.
00:16:38
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Uh, Batman Arkham Knight is, I mean, probably, probably number one for me, just for the fact that they, they completed the story they told
00:16:51
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a story so well, especially introducing Red Hood into it as this random character called the Arkham Knight. I love the game so much because it, and this is literally what every reviewer of the game says, but it legit makes you feel like you're Batman.
00:17:15
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And that's something that I've always wanted from a video game is to really throw you into a character that you can relate to, that
Praise for Spider-Man PS4
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you actually feel excited to play as. And yeah, that's probably one of my favorite series of any game. The new Spider-Man PS4 game, absolutely.
00:17:44
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stunning in every possible way. The story was great. The graphics were great. The overall movement, gameplay, everything was great. Would 100% recommend that as if it needs any more recommendation. And then I'd have to say the Assassin's Creed
00:18:09
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Assassin's Creed 3 is probably my favorite game of all time just for the story, the character development of Connor Kenway and it was the first game that I played personally with my best friend where we were both into the same video game and it was like a story and we actually sat down and we played it together and we were both involved
00:18:35
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and the story, the character, everything. Other than that, did you ever play Uncharted 3? I never played any of the Uncharted.
00:18:46
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the multiplayer for that. That was like, so my brother always had Call of Duty. He played, you know, Black Ops, Ghost, everything. My game was Uncharted 3 multiplayer. Like that's literally what me and my friends played for probably two, two, three years. And it never got old. Like it was just such a fun game to play. And then later on,
00:19:14
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You know, playing the actual story and then playing Uncharted 4. It's a great game. So those are my recommendations. I haven't played the new Uncharted, The Lost Legacy, I think. Have you played that?
00:19:32
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Okay, well, I wasn't sure if you were talking about the storyline with Nathan Drake or... I haven't played any of the Uncharteds. I only recently got a PlayStation... I had a PlayStation 3 for a little bit. I never really bought any Uncharteds. I recently got a PlayStation 4, and again, I haven't bought anything Uncharteds. It was mainly for MLB The Show.
00:19:56
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It's kind of my secondary console. I stick with Xbox for most of the time.
Uncharted vs. Halo: Adventure Narrative
00:20:00
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Yeah, but I Uncharted I know is Ranked as a great game. Yeah, I have no doubt that if I played it I would like it I just haven't sat down and played it Yeah, I would definitely recommend Uncharted the collection and then playing Uncharted 4
00:20:21
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Again, it's just it's a game. I mean, it's not it's not a super long game. Again, it's not a open world. So it is, you know, mission by mission. Yeah. So it does go by a lot quicker. You don't really have to invest as much time, but it is a very compelling story. So that's kind of because we talked about this a little bit earlier. Halo. So it's kind of like this. It sounds like it's almost like the same exact deal.
00:20:45
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Well, I think I think they were actually, you know, side by side that like Halo was definitely first. Well, yeah, definitely. But what PlayStation brought to the table was uncharted. Whereas Xbox brought to the table. Yes. Halo. Yeah. So they're always side by side. Halo was always first.
00:21:04
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But personally, for me, I love the Uncharted story more than I did the Halo, just because it was an adventure playing it. It's a very different game. Yeah. Again, just two different ballgames that we're talking about. Both great, but very different. They shouldn't have even competed with one another.
00:21:29
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Just because Halo blew it out of the water, but, you know, Uncharted was still an amazing game. Yeah. No, I agree. I would love to try it. And it's probably something I'll try at some point. Yeah. Is there any other games that you kind of have a recommendation for? Are those really your mainstays? I mean, just the entire Assassin's Creed series. I think I played it. I don't think I've played the first one.
00:21:57
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But I played from the second, so the Assassin's Creed 2, Brotherhood, Revelations. And then the newer ones I think are even before that. Have you played the newer ones? Yeah. I don't like them as much as the old ones. Just because it's more of a, I guess, RPG.
00:22:17
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format where it's, you know, you can actually see the damage that's being done. It's more of a, you know, you literally press R1 for a light attack and you just flick that and you're, you know, whereas before there was a little bit more skill that went into combat and just the gameplay in general. But they're still, they're still good game. I play them because those two games, I think it's Origins and Odyssey.
00:22:48
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Yes. They are the very, very, very beginning of the Brotherhood. Okay. And so they're very important to play before you even get to Altair's storyline or Ezio's storyline or Edward Kenway's storyline. Very important to play because you begin to
00:23:13
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really understand the brotherhood and the fight that they're against with the Templars and things like that. You really begin to really love the story and the characters and just the overall cause for the Assassins versus the Templars, things like that. It's a really good game. I definitely recommend those. But again, nothing that nobody already knows.
00:23:41
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Uh, these are very popular games. Agreed. But yeah, I definitely, I definitely recommend those. Do you have any favorite old games like nostalgic games? Uh, I remember the first Pac-Man game. Uh, I was right. For, for the game cube. Yeah. Pac-Man world two. Hmm. We used to play that game all the time. What was your first console that you owned?
00:24:07
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I think it was the Nintendo 64, and then we played Mario 64. Really? Okay. Yeah. Interesting. The first game I remember ever playing is the Star Wars Speedsters, I think. Okay. Galaga. Digger, you remember that game? Dig Dug? Dig Dug, yeah. So you like some of the classic arcade games? Yeah.
00:24:32
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I remember playing them with my with my mom when I was when I was younger in the living room She was like obsessed with I Think it was like the bundle. It was like all the old arcade games. Yeah, I was in that one little cartridge. Yeah And yeah, we used to play those and try to like set like the record and stuff and mom was like obsessed with Pac-man and I
00:24:58
Speaker
Is there a name? Ms. Pac-Man? Yeah. Yeah. So that's like the first console I ever owned. And then it was the GameCube, the Wii, then PS2, PS3, then PS4, and then down to now. Did you ever own a PS1?
00:25:17
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No, literally for most of our life it was just Nintendo. Just because we weren't allowed to play like rated teen games. Yeah. Definitely not rated M games. So like that was kind of like everything that we were allowed to play like Lego Star Wars was like the most aggressive we could get for the longest time. Yeah.
00:25:44
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So yeah, we didn't really have a PS1 or anything. I remember playing... Did you ever play the GoldenEye 007? Yeah, of course. Yeah. 64? I think it was... I think it was PS2. Yeah, GoldenEye for the PS2. I never played that one. GoldenEye Rogue Agent. One of my friends that we used to play basketball with, Kamari, got...
00:26:10
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Got that game, but he didn't have the PS2 system. So he would always bring his game over to play at our house. So he bought the game without having the system? Yeah. That's interesting. Yeah, well, you know, he wasn't the smartest. We're not friends anymore. Yeah, we're not affiliated with him anymore. Interesting. How about you? What games did you grow up playing with?
00:26:34
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I mean, it was fairly similar. 64 was, I think, the first console I remember having. Mario 64, Mario Kart, GoldenEye on the 64, General Games, Donkey Kong on the 64.
00:26:49
Speaker
They're all great games. We had we got a PlayStation later. I remember playing Some of the racing games. I can't remember which ones. I want to say like forza on on the ps1 Was that the ps2? I don't know There's a lot of great games on all of them Tony Hawk great game, Tony Hawk Pro skater was such a great game very influential
00:27:13
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Did you play Marvel versus Capcom? I never played it. I like I knew about it, but I never I never played it. The only ones that were ever like of note and like anybody I knew was Mortal Kombat and outside of that nobody ever really played like fighter games. Yeah
00:27:30
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It was that was really the only one that was popular among the people I knew But they were all great games. Uh, the NES I had and just the great games all all great games, uh, Super Super Nintendo Super Mario 1 2 & 3 With a tanuki Mario and all them are great. I'm trying to think what other games on there there was
00:27:55
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we have the dreamcast eventually which was a great system oh yeah one of the worst and one of the best because the controller was probably the weirdest thing which is funny because do you remember the controller for the 64 how oddly like laid out it is yeah but then you look at the dreamcast one and i i
00:28:13
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That's gotta compete for a weirdest controller because of the giant almost screen size middle it had. Dreamcast had so many great games. I remember playing, there's certain football games on it. Sonic, there's a Sonic game. I can't remember what it's called. There's a Sonic game on there that was great. So many good games on the Dreamcast.
00:28:32
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Uh, they kind of fell into the background super quick. Dreamcast was on the property for like six months. Yeah. And then it was like, what, why would you have a Dreamcast? And I think we sold it. Um, and, uh, then moved to like the PS two and, you know, got NFL street and all these MLB games. Oh, the, uh, King Griffey Jr. Baseball on 64 is a great game. Um,
00:28:59
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Yeah, so many so many really good games. Mario Kart was, I mean, on any system, Mario Kart is great. Yeah, I mean, it's hard to pick one specifically. But any Mario game pretty much in general is a great game. Any Mario Kart game, great game. I think in general, one of my favorite games is probably Mass Effect. Have you played much of Mass Effect? No, I've not played any.
00:29:26
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They're really good. I think my personal favorite is three out of all of them. They're all so good. So well built. I love story driven games, especially the ones where you can. It feels like your choices affect the story a little bit. Mass Effect is one of those games where your choices affect the ending. Yeah. So there's multiple endings. And also from Dave, like from day one, the Mass Effect game has had. Oh, wow. I know that.
00:29:55
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Yeah, Mass Effect has always been very user-story driven. You know, who are your allies, who are your enemies, who are you going to fight with, who do you fight against. It's always been a great game. That was one of the first games I remember, like, oh, I can have some control over this story. Great games. I'm still always going to be one of my favorites. Mass Effect 4 was... Mass Effect Andromeda, I guess, was super disappointing.
00:30:25
Speaker
I mean, it was a fun game. It just ended too early. There wasn't enough substance in it, I think. I still enjoyed it. Maybe I was partial because I like Mass Effect. But then they abandoned it rather quickly because of all the retaliation over there, how it ended. They were like, hey, all that stuff we promised for DLCs and all that, we're just gonna abandon that because you guys don't like it.
00:30:52
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So I don't know. I have a love-hate relationship with Andromeda. Fun game. It probably could have been, you know, a lot better had they put in the time and effort. I don't know if that rush should or just, they just kind of lost their touch a little bit. I still value it as a game. It's not gonna come anywhere close to the first three, but still a decent game.
00:31:14
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Yeah, that's definitely gonna be one of my mainstays. All the fallouts are great. Another one of those that you feel like you're emotionally involved in the stories. Bioshocks are great games. I love a lot of story games. And sports is always just gonna have a special place in my heart. They're different. For you, would you rather... Because for me personally, I'd rather have a really, really good story
00:31:45
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game single player story play it by myself then have a really really good multiplayer that I play with my friends it depends on what you mean by multiplayer so like like say so if you had a choice between
00:32:01
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great story single-player driven game and a multiplayer game like a GTA to play with your friends what would you rather do like your ideal day of gaming would it be single-player or would it be multiplayer it's gonna be the multiplayer multiplayer at least for me right now it's gonna be any game that I could play with friends it's it's gonna it's gonna
00:32:28
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Get the majority of my time. Yeah. It's just more of a pull for me because I'm not. As you kind of said earlier, you know, you have to value your time a little bit more.
The Social Appeal of Multiplayer Games
00:32:40
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My poll is going to be if I'm going to play a video game, I'm going to need a little bit more reason. It's either got to be just a great story that I'm like, I like, I really want to play this game right now, or it has to be, hey, I have friends on this game and we're going to have a lot of fun. It's going to be hilarious.
00:32:55
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Like that so 90% of the time it's gonna be the multiplayer experience whether it's from just for the sheer replayability or just the randomness or Even if it's just co-op missions did anything any good function of multiplayer is is super important for ya I respect that
00:33:19
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I do love single-player, as I mentioned, but at the moment multiplayer is just based on time. If I have to choose, it's either spend time with family or if there's a reason to go play games, it's hard to pick a single-player game over doing other things.
00:33:37
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Yeah. So there has to be kind of a reason to pull it. One of the like first single player games that I remember, like the story pulled me and was Halo. Great story. And that was one of the first ones because it's so old. That was one of the first ones that was like, oh, wow, that games can have like a significant impact on you. And the stories can be like movies, like each game is a movie and you get to take part in it.
00:34:03
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Yeah. So that they make a big difference. So I guess, you know, we talked about a little bit what your favorite games are. I guess looking into the future kind of a piece, you know, we heard a little bit about what the future of video games looks like looks like versus Xbox, Scarlett versus PS5, kind of the video game streaming world with Stadia and you know what Microsoft is offering.
00:34:29
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do you
00:34:59
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Do you have an opinion on that or what it what it sounds like what the drawbacks are? What comes to mind when you think of something like that where you pull up an app and like hey I want to play you know Some random some random game, you know you pull up and you want to play uncharted. I Don't know. I feel like I feel like that will I can't say that I hate the idea of it, but for me I
00:35:05
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owned the game.
00:35:24
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Nowadays again going back to the fact that you know life gets so busy That if I'm going to invest money into a game That drives me to want to play the game. Yeah, you know and Not having like not committing to a game to me Will only cause me to jump from game to game. I Won't be fully invested into one game like before it was like, you know
00:35:54
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I save up $60 and I go out and I buy the newest game. And that's the game I play for the next three months. I feel like they're kind of taking that away by giving you the availability or the cloud to play whatever you want, everything's at arm's length.
00:36:15
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that's a good thing but also i can see how it would be a bad thing for the overall gaming experience yeah uh but that's just personally how i feel i again i i've i've played uh
00:36:31
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Like I think for PlayStation, it's PS Now, I think. Is that what it's called? Yeah. And then for Xbox, it's Xbox Game Pass. I agree that it does kind of take a little bit, almost a little bit of the value out of the game when it's part of a giant bundle. It's okay, you can play any game you want. Then every game is at the same level almost in your head. It's hard to value games too much when they're all
00:36:58
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you know, part of one giant pass or something like that. I agree. I mean, even if a game's bad, you drop $60 in a game, you're going to see that game through. Yeah. You're going to see it through to the very end, even though you're like, oh, this is terrible. Why am I playing this? This is, you know, this is difficult. You know, the stories that are bad, though. I mean, for me, it's good because what again, all
00:37:27
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The whole purpose of purchasing an item is your goal is to make it worth the money that's spent. But what if it's not? Well, then you've, you know, you've shot yourself in the foot. Say you bought a terrible game, but at the same time, you're going to keep playing it in hopes
00:37:50
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Yeah. That it gets good. So there's pros and cons to that. Yeah, you spend 60 bucks and you're gonna see it through, but also you spend 60 bucks and you're forced to see it through. When you're in part of a bundle, you can just be like, hey, this game sucks. I'm moving on.
00:38:07
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Yeah, again, it's one of those things where I don't know. I've never, I've not really dabbled in a lot of like the PS Now or the Game Pass. I've done it with a little bit more of the Xbox side of it. Played a lot of games like older Xbox games. And that's been great, but I won't really know how I feel about it until I'm actually in a situation where that's like exclusively like the options that you have.
00:38:36
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where it's like, okay, well if you don't like this game, you can jump to another game. Because I've never had that before. Fair enough. It does have its pros and cons, and it's not for everybody. Kind of along the same subject, we have the next generation consoles coming out, probably the end of next year.
00:38:56
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PS5 versus the new Xbox. What's your initial thoughts? You don't have to get into any kind of technical terms, but what's your thought? Are you leaning one way or the other?
Innovations of the New PS5 Controller
00:39:07
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Or is there a reason for it? What's your thoughts here? Well, I've always been a fan of PlayStation just for their PlayStation exclusives. Like? Just Uncharted? Like Uncharted. I believe Spider-Man was an exclusive. He was. I believe The Last of Us is an exclusive. It is.
00:39:27
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uh... let me see they're they're i think two other games that i i can't think of right now here because it's not yours or uh... god of war god of war is an exclusive i mean one game of the year uh... there's one more i can't i can't think of it uh... but again like just especially
00:39:51
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2018 looking at you know the PlayStation exclusive versus the Xbox exclusives like PlayStation has brought Their very best to the table But looking this year and the ps5 versus the Xbox Scarlett I Mean really the driving force is that that ps5 controller You have you if you heard anything about the dollar?
00:40:20
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So apparently the controller, so like the vibrations that you get, like when, like say in GTA, you hit a wall or something with your car, you know, the vibration that you get. So the remote control will be able to gauge the intensity of what you're playing.
00:40:45
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and will gauge the vibration and the feeling of the controller based off of what's happening. So they kind of already advertised that with the old controllers, and it pans out a little bit, like you can tell, but not enough to make it a selling point. Well, it's not only that, but the adaptive triggers that they have, like the L2, R2,
00:41:10
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The fact that so say like you're playing you're playing a shooter based on the the weapon you know what what kind of mods you have on the weapon it'll gauge the I guess pushback or the the force that you need to put down on the the r2 in order to fire it just like
00:41:36
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an added way to really get you involved in the game. And just for the fact that I prefer the PS4 controller over the Xbox controller. Really? Yeah. Especially now playing with the Xbox a lot more, I just don't really like how bulky the Xbox controller is to the very thin, sleek look of the PlayStation controller.
00:42:05
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It's just maybe it's because I've had more experience with the the PlayStation controller But it just it feels a lot more comfortable in my hands. It's possible But yeah, I mean I'm really looking forward to both consoles, but definitely the ps5 for me stands out just I mean I think they're both 8k and
00:42:27
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They're both gonna have yeah somewhat the same technical specs. Yeah, I think I think they both have The max frame rates I think 120 frames per second probably So they're they're both gonna be very very close I think it'll just be about the little things that they add to the overall experience for for the player and
00:42:52
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What's interesting is, I think the separator there, there will have to be a separator as you think about PS2 versus PS, or the PS2 versus Xbox 360, PS3 versus Xbox One, or, you know, PS3 versus
00:43:13
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The PS3 versus the Xbox 360. Yes. And then the PS4 versus the Xbox One. PlayStation has always been focused on hardware. Bringing the best technical specs and trying to translate into video game experience. Xbox has always been focused on software and working, you know, not that they're bringing bad hardware.
00:43:36
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But they're focusing more on software to bring a better user experience, not just video game experience. So bringing better all arounds, you know, multimedia, multimedia experience, better, you know, party chats.
00:43:52
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Trying to you know play music in the back like there's there's little things that they try and bring to the overall user experience To the console not just to the game that PlayStation is trying to focus on They're always trying to bring the best technical specs so video games look the best and feel the best during the game What's interesting about the next generation of consoles is I think they're gonna be pretty close in technical specs so I my personal opinion is if
00:44:19
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PlayStation doesn't have some kind of game changer or differentiated factor. Xbox might be able to run away with that a little bit because you think about like PS4 versus Xbox One, what was the big differentiator was the PlayStation 4 had more power. People are like, oh, hey, you know, you pay the same price. You get a much more powerful console. This one is focused for gamers. This one has, you know, this much RAM, this much CPU.
00:44:46
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all these little things as far as hardware. Xbox One was always focused on multimedia. Hey, you get, you know, voice control with the connect. You get, you know, Netflix Hulu. It's all built around being your hub for your living room.
00:45:02
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this is all built very much around software if you come into that argument with the same hardware it's very much it's much more difficult to separate the two and to give you really any incentive to choose the playstation four or five whatever you're talking about
00:45:20
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So, it's gonna be interesting to see if they are the same technical specs. My opinion is, PlayStation's gonna really have to step up what they bring to the table as far as software. Because they're, in my opinion, they're very far behind in terms of what they bring to the table as far as user experience. If you're playing video games and you're not just a hardcore gamer who's playing single player games or just single player shooters, these kinds of things, if you're not a hardcore gamer,
PlayStation vs. Xbox User Experience
00:45:50
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It's gonna be hard to choose the PlayStation without any reason. And they're already starting behind the game in terms of other categories. They're gonna be behind in multimedia, they're gonna be behind in user experience, they're gonna be behind in party chat.
00:46:08
Speaker
all these little things that I think Xbox already has the advantage. So if they can just, if Xbox is stepping up their hardware and keeping up in terms of that with PlayStation, I think that gives them a leg up. And that was my differentiator with going with Xbox One rather than PlayStation 4 was I wanted that hub experience. I have other needs. I'm not a hard, I'm a gamer. I'm not a hardcore gamer around gaming 30 hours of a 40 hour week.
00:46:37
Speaker
I'm watching Netflix, watching Hulu, watching Amazon, watching YouTube, using it for, you know, voice control. There's all these other little things using it with my phone. There's other little things that were also important rather than just gaming exclusively that Xbox brought to the table. And that was really the selling point for me, or at least the incentive for going with that over the PlayStation. You sure the PlayStation 4 was more powerful technically?
00:47:06
Speaker
But how much does that really translate into the game and change your everyday gaming capabilities? It was negligible, the difference. So I'm curious what this next generation is going to bring, whether it's more cloud-based gaming, like we talked about, whether it's going to be more hardware-focused if PlayStation is going to bring to the table as far as software.
00:47:30
Speaker
It's going to be a very interesting turn of, not the century, but just a different generation of consoles. And they, consoles always last, you know, like five years or so. Yeah. Three, four, five years. Generally like five.
00:47:47
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It's gonna be pretty interesting and we won't likely won't know for the next Probably eight to twelve months what we're actually dealing with here. Yeah, but it's gonna be fun and I'm looking forward to even Google's kind of joined the game just slightly with their they've mixed up things the same way kind of Nintendo did with the Nintendo Wii They're mixing the game up slightly with stadia. Yeah
00:48:13
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Nintendo's mixed it up a little bit with their with their with the switch Not enough. It's kind of a third party. It's not enough to mess with the hardcore gamers but any new competitors in the
00:48:28
Speaker
in the game can really shake things up sometimes. So I've enjoyed watching the whole situation. My gut tells me I'll probably end up with the Xbox just based on previous experience, but I'm never going to rule out that I'll go with the PlayStation. I do enjoy the PlayStation. I definitely love the controller on the Xbox more. I think that's a general consensus is the Xbox controller is more comfortable to use because it fits better in your hand and the
00:48:57
Speaker
the trigger buttons on the back are a little bit more intuitive to use. It depends on the person, but I think the general consensus is people like the Xbox controller more.
00:49:08
Speaker
Yeah, they do. Which is such a little thing, but it really does matter in the end when you're choosing your console. It's, I don't know, I'm excited. Not to sound too nervous, but I am excited to watch and see how things go. I'm not gonna buy it immediately. I'm not gonna buy either one immediately because they're gonna be, you know, five, six hundred dollars to start with as they always are.
00:49:31
Speaker
I mean, the Xbox One started at $4.99, which I bought before, which is frustrating, because then I bought the Xbox One X for, what, like $2.30? Yeah.
00:49:43
Speaker
So I bought the most powerful version of the Xbox for less than half the price. You can buy an Xbox one for $199 right now. So it's, I'm definitely not gonna buy it out the gate. I'm gonna wait until it drops down in price. PlayStation always will also drop down in price. So I'm gonna wait it out, see how things go. There's always a slim version. There's always more advanced versions that they release a year or two after the initial one comes out. And then once that comes out, yeah, it'll drop in price.
00:50:13
Speaker
Yeah, for the time being i'm happy with my ps4 xbox one. It's it's gonna be interesting. Yeah, um I don't know. It's always an interesting market to keep an eye on exclusive games is always fun to see Who's pulled what yeah, um, you know like playstation was super disappointed to see them pull plays or pull plays to pull spider-man. Um, I I played it. I bought a playstation almost exclusively for that. Yeah
00:50:39
Speaker
It was a great game, I love it. Of course I wish if it was on the Xbox I probably wouldn't have bought a Playstation. The exclusives are always fun to see who got what. Yeah, especially since as of the past couple of years Xbox has really
00:50:59
Speaker
Trimble in the in the wake of PlayStation in a lot of ways with their with their exclusives I mean they're different categories I know but I mean even with their with their halo games You know the they're saving grace for the longest time even though it's not really anymore Yeah, they've been a massive disappointment to people
00:51:22
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Maybe for for die-hard Halo fans, maybe they're they're good disappointments a hard word It's there. It's just not their top priority. Yeah Gears of War Has been more important for has been more important. There's things that have kind of taken the top priority. Yeah, I
00:51:41
Speaker
But who knows, yeah, like you said, I'm very excited as well to see what happens. It's always interesting, especially because they both set the same deadline for themselves too, as the release date being the holiday of 2020. Yeah. Seeing the teases, the gameplay, the release, what they release, when they release, what they leak, everything.
00:52:11
Speaker
Uh, you know, it's a very fun time, uh, to sit back and kind of watch it, uh, unfold. Yeah. Watch people trample over each other on black Friday, trying to get to the consoles. Yeah, man. Heck yeah. So moving on to a little bit less fun territory, question mark.
00:52:30
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Um, let's say we've talked about a lot of stuff here, uh, sports and video games and phones and all general technology, um, even music, uh, kind of going into more
00:52:45
Speaker
Personal I guess not personal technically. Yeah, but so, you know, we I know you do a little bit a little bit of customer service kind of You don't have the Everybody has a stressful job in its own, right? Yeah Do you do deal with customers a little bit at your job or is that more your bosses job or? I mean we get a lot of feedback from doctors
00:53:13
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So I am a dental technician, so we get a lot of
00:53:19
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feedback, positive and negative, mostly negative from doctors. It's kind of one of those jobs where if you don't hear anything, if you don't get anything sent back, that's a good sign. But you never want to pick up your phone and see that a doctor's calling you. Agreed. But yeah, we mainly only have one or two people that actually take care of the customer side of things.
00:53:47
Speaker
Just because I think doctors try to trap you in a lot of ways. Maybe it's an ego thing or they're just upset. I don't know what it is, but a lot of times they try to use their logic against yours when it comes to decision making, when it comes to like the fit of a denture or the fit of an orthodontic appliance.
Experiences from the Medical Field
00:54:11
Speaker
They try to like, well, my way is better, do it my way. And yes, we end up doing it your way.
00:54:17
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but trying to explain to them our process, our thought process as to why we sent them this product that fits this way or that looks this way. It takes a very skilled person, a person who understands the field a lot better than a regular dental technician. So we do have one or two people that kind of handle the negative or the questions that doctors may have. So we don't really have a lot of contact with
00:54:45
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The doctors or customers. Yeah, you have people who are more readily equipped to handle these kinds of situations I know I I couldn't I mean I worked at I worked at Chick-fil-a and I was a manager there for like
00:55:00
Speaker
probably six months and handling angry moms calling about their food being cold was really stressful for me. And I barely was able to get out of those conversations, much less, you know, a doctor calling you about a denture that doesn't fit or something that's actually affecting somebody's life in a negative way. Like I just, I personally couldn't deal with that. Yeah. So do you enjoy what you do?
00:55:30
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Yeah. Um, I like, I like being proud of what I put out. I don't know. Being, being in an environment, especially a big, a big company, like I work at, which it's not big, big, but it's, it's, it covers a lot of North Carolina. Uh, we have a lot of business all around. Uh, you don't really have time to, uh, fine tune what you do kind of like, you know,
00:56:01
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take your time on a product, so you kind of have to like, it becomes about numbers at the end of the day. So you kind of lose your zeal for putting out a good product, and I never want to feel that way. I never want to pump out a product that I'm not proud of. So it has its good days and its bad days. When it's a slow day, not a lot of work,
00:56:27
Speaker
where I can actually take some time and actually put out a product that I'm proud of, it's great. But when you have a mass of cases that come in, you don't really have time to think, you just do. So it has its up and downs. What would be something that you change on a day-to-day basis?
00:56:51
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I mean every every the amount of people or the amount of work or the management What's what's something you'd personally change? I think everything that we have now in place is out of necessity So everything that we have management There are caseload. It's not really a matter of what would I change because it becomes this big wave of
00:57:17
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or like a butterfly effect, it's like you change one thing and everything changes. So I can't really say that I would want to change anything just because I know everything's in place for a reason. Do you wish you had more support? So say there was another one of you. I mean, that would be great. So the job that I have now was originally done by two people.
00:57:48
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and right now I'm doing the work of two people technically those two people that were there before were just really slow and technically should be done by one person but especially because I've been doing it for you know so I've been working in general in this lab for going on two years but I've been doing this this department finishing dentures for only
00:58:14
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uh maybe three weeks at the most it's very it's very difficult because you don't really know what you're doing and i'm also the the kind of employee where you know a lot of pressure was put on me to
00:58:29
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you know deliver yeah uh and it's like you know it was kind of like you know oh you're going to be the saving grace of of this department like once once we get you over here everything will be good you'll get it down you'll pump out work it's no problem so it's just the pressure uh
00:58:48
Speaker
Personally think that having two people on there at least one person for half a day would be perfect Just to kind of take the workload off that way we can pump out better products Like I can get all the work out by four o'clock But a lot of it's sent back because I'm having to rush through certain things. Yeah, that's going through quality control, right? Yeah, so it everything goes through quality control and
00:59:16
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So you're obviously, if you have the average cases that you need to do is 32. If I have 36 cases, but they want, if it's 32 in an eight hour period, they want 36 and six hours. And so it's like, well, that's not really possible unless I start cutting corners and sacrificing the quality over the sheer amount of quantity that I have.
00:59:46
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Currently, so it would be great if I if I had some support But you know it is one of those things where you can't really say that because they're like well Technically you should be doing this on your own you know Yeah, those are always hard arguments to fight because from a numbers point they always have their Standards, but it's hard to argue with results. Yeah of hey
01:00:09
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I'm putting out this much in this amount of time. It's a good product. I can't do any better unless you want me to start cutting corners. It's hard to argue with those kinds of things if they want to keep the same amount of quality. I'm not on board with perfection fast. If it's not slow, then it's
01:00:28
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Those things don't go together, like you said. Perfection fast is good enough fast. Those are very different things. If it's perfection, it's gonna take as long as it takes. If it takes a half hour to do something well, it takes an hour to do something great, it takes an hour and a half to do it perfect, you can't make it perfect in 45 minutes. It's just not possible. You're sacrificing something.
01:00:57
Speaker
If you're taking two and a half hours to do something perfect, then you're getting into why are you taking so long? There's differences. If you're doing it in a reasonable amount of time, I don't see any reason that there should be any kind of expectation. That's why there's a difference between fast food and going to a nice restaurant because you can't go to a fast food restaurant and be like,
01:01:21
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You know, where's my food? I need my food quickly and then open up your box and your foods flung all over the place. And it's like, well, what the heck? Why, why isn't, you know, why doesn't this burger look like what's on the menu? And it's like, well, because it was made in a minute and a half. Yeah. It's like you wanted your food quickly and we're going to give you your food quickly, but it's not going to be perfect. Yeah. So yeah, that's all. There you go. That's a wise words from Jacob.
01:01:47
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I want to die.
01:02:02
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Okay, well, I appreciate you joining me and thank you everybody for listening to episode two. A lot of content in these past two episodes. Hopefully Alan will get back with us soon, but I'm sure Jacob will be back with us as well at some point here shortly. But it's nice to get to spread the weft a little bit, so to speak. But until next time, I appreciate you guys joining us. I'm Dylan. And I'm Jacob. Bye, everybody. Bye.