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Episode 10 - Old Man Beers or Where It All Started
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On this, the 10th episode, Brandon and Tony discuss beers they grew up on with Tony's neighbor Jeff. Schlitz, Hamms, Old Style, PBR and Miller High Life are all consumed!
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Introduction and Podcast Overview
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You're listening to the 212 Round Table Podcast. You can find us on SoundCloud, Spotify, Google Play, and Google Podcast, as well as Apple Podcast. Be sure to leave a review and subscribe. You can also find the Brew Club at 212.beer. That's the number 2, the word 12, .beer. You can also find us on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram by searching 212 Brew Club. Now on to the show.
Chicago Newspapers in the 60s
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Actually, there were four newspapers back in the 60s. In Chicago? Yes. The Daily News, Tribune, Sometimes, and The American. The American, oh. Yeah. I'm not familiar with any of those, are you? No. Sometimes. Is anybody from, I mean, yeah, being the other two. Sometimes, yeah, Tribune, but the American. What about the quickly talent? The American, that's where Mike Reichel started.
00:01:19
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Do you ever eat any of this stuff at all? Sorry, that's my wife turning on the hose. Or turning it off.
Mike Reichel's Graffiti Story
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You don't know Mike Reichel? I do. I only know Mike Reichel because he actually did a story on my cousin. Really? Yep.
00:01:39
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My cousin had gotten, he was big into like in the 80s, he was doing like the graffiti art. So I would call it art. Other people would call it, you know, tagging and stuff. But they were doing like trains and like all these big murals and stuff on pieces. And he had gotten arrested and put in the jail. And Reiko did an article on him. Yeah, you know what Reiko does sound familiar?
00:02:04
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Yeah, it was so that I like I just that's like how I mean anytime somebody brings up Mike right go. I'm like, yeah That's cool. That's right. He will he he was so much of an a-hole That that's true in his no in his writings and stuff like that and he just
00:02:29
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picked a variance of topics that he could discuss. Not knowing anything about one of them, but
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And that's how he would parlay his whole column. But then he'd come out in the truth in the last two paragraphs and stuff like that. And he was a straight up guy. I mean, he was a drinker and shit like that. But he was straight. Yeah. You guys should read.
Mike Reichel's Writing Style
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In fact, I still have the book Boss that he wrote about Mayor Daley. Oh, that sounds like a good one.
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Richard. Not the son. And stuff like that. In fact, years ago, my brother-in-law knew what I liked of him, and stuff like that, and stood in line for how long to get an autographed book. That's cool. I think Reiko was one of those guys that would go down to the Billy Goat. Yeah. Oh, really? Because all the writers from the Tribune, that's where they came in. Oh, that was their spot. Yeah, it was right there. Yeah. That's what they would do. What do you have about
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going this whole thing? Oh yeah. Fantastic. So now that I said, what do you have about Schlitz?
Cubs' Leo DeRocher's Spring Training Claim
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Oh, Schlitz. 1967, I was X amount years old. My math sucks. Okay. Math. Who needs it? And the Cubs just
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got a new manager, Leo DeRocher, formerly of the Mets and stuff like, no, that was Casey Stego, excuse me, but his long history. And he says, for sure, spring training, just for spring training, he says, this is not an eighth place ball club. This is when there were 10 teams in two divisions. And he says, sure enough, they weren't in eighth place. They went into 10th place at the end of the year.
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begin along, he was doing advertisements and stuff like that. One of the first big time managers and stuff, they were talking about Schlitz. And he had two sports writers with him and stuff like that. And this big thing at the end of the commercial was, hey fellas, how about another Schlitz.
First Beer Experiences and Growing Up
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I'm gonna cheers to that. The rumor goes that they took him about a hundred takes because he kept on saying, how about another Schlitz? How about another Schlitz? How about another Schlitz? It's pronounced Schlitz. And right off the bat, we're going straight into this. So to be fair, I gave you guys samples of beers before we started. I gave you samples of my New England IPA, and Brandon and I gave you a sample also of the Cinnamon Stout.
00:05:14
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rough and bad. Schlitz is pretty tasty, right? Like it's... So give everybody an overview real quick. We are talking about what I like to call the old man beers or where it all started because I remember trying my first beer, which I almost got today was a old style, which I did get, sorry, old style, but
00:05:36
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MGD. I had a warm MGD with Kevin and my good friend John. Kevin Goggin was part of the show and it was warm and it was disgusting. I almost grabbed it for that but Jeff and I and you, Brandon, we, three of us have talked separately about beers that we had drank first as far as like, what was your first experience for beer? So that's what we're talking about today and Jeff brought up, by the way, Jeff is here. Jeff is my neighbor.
00:05:59
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I'm still here, yeah. I know, I know, yeah, you're still here. Have a move. Nobody knows that, though. That's who was telling the story. Jeff was telling the story in the beginning. Jeff is my neighbor. Jeff has become my brew partner now that Brandon has child and getting ready for child.
Meet Jeff, the Brew Partner
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You're not knocked out, Brandon. You will still always be invited. And I did invite you, but I figured you had something going on anyways with child.
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but Jeff has become my assistant brewer and Jeff was also there a part of the one of the original conversations that we decided maybe we should do a podcast you were by you came by for a brew day i think that's when we did the cereal beers i think so and we said it would be cool if we did a podcast and Jeff was there and we talked about it and i said well you have to be a guest and the best part is is that here we are on our 10th episode
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Jeff's here. Jeff, you made it. You survived. I'm glad you survived the garage episode. Yeah. We made it here and we thought, what would be better than starting at the beginning on our mini, as you called it, our mini anniversary. We made it 10 episodes, Brandon. We did it. That's crazy. It doesn't feel like, it kind of feels longer. Yeah. Well, I mean, just because we have it spread out so much, I feel like that's why it seems a little longer.
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And then we've also been doing how many tests run since like November last year. And we're here at my house, which is where we started. So it's kind of cool. But it was very nice being in your garage for the first time being.
Learning Brewing with Jeff
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observer of how Tony goes about doing his brewing techniques and things like that. And I'm learning a little bit. I think I've been out there three, four times now. After the first or second time the garage is open.
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things like that and there's heat and cars going by in the alley and totally saying, it's not a meth lab, it's not a meth lab. It's true, it's not a meth lab. It was very, very educational and interesting. Yeah, I appreciate the questions that you ask. Why do you do simple things? Why do you do this? Why do you do that?
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That was kind of the reason why we wanted to do the podcast, too. We haven't really, we've somewhat touched on home brewing. I mean, that's kind of the underlying tone of the podcast. But the questions that you ask are pretty much the same questions that Ron still asks in our club.
Beer Sampling and Testing
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And it's fun. It's fun to do it. I like having the questions asked. And you're someone, Jeff, that
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likes trying different beers as well. I mean. You never know what's gonna float your boat. Exactly. You've got certain beers that you like. And you have been a sampler, a taste tester of all the beers that I have brewed since I've lived here. I'm on your. Tony's nice way of saying a guinea pig. Yeah, you're my guinea pig basically. I haven't exploded. Not yet. Hey, I gotta win. Yeah, I put 15 pounds on since I retired. So I kind of explode. Might be that.
00:09:03
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Blame Tony. Blame me in my beer.
Nostalgia: Schlitz Beer
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So Jeff brought some beers. Jeff and I were discussing, once we were taking down my gazebo a couple weeks ago, what beers would be good. And one we couldn't get, but one that we did get was Schlitz. You got some Schlitz. Yes. You got the Schlitz. You're going to have the Schlitz after this episode, I think, once we're done drinking this. No. Poop jokes, no fart jokes. No. Knock on the blue on the 10th episode? Yeah. OK. But honestly, Schlitz.
00:09:34
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It's pretty tasty. And maybe it's because I've been on a logger kick lately, but if I was sitting around and I don't know, let's line around with me. No, the weather we've had today, like this 80 degree weather, this is good beer. It's humid, yeah. This is refreshing. It's clear. It's crystal clear.
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And then, but the nice thing too is Schlitz has like a huge history in Chicago too. 100%. You know, and I still, it's funny cause I do this to my wife all the time when we're driving around, when you see the buildings that have like the Schlitz logo, like in there, like those are the old tide houses. And then every time I see the tide houses, I explained what a tide house is to her. Just cause I was like, it's a fact that I know and I enjoy telling that story all over and over. There's like the big days coming off of,
00:10:25
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On the Kennedy. They had it.
Tied Houses and Beer Brands
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Really? Years and years ago. Going north, Bob. Used to come from the old neighborhood of Wood Street and Division and stuff and pick up the Kennedy and goin' home and there'd be a big schlitz sign.
00:10:39
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Cool. That's actually one of the bar signs, but I had a bar sign here from my basement. A Schlitz sign is kind of one that I want, or High Life, which we'll get to later. Yeah, and I like the places that take care of the Schlitz stuff, like on the buildings, I think. It might be Shubas on Belmont and like Southport.
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I think you're right. That was an old tide house. And you could tell because it's in the brick. Like that's an old tide house. The map room is an old tide house. They've got, you know, all that stuff. And then there's, you know, a plethora of them on like the south side. So, you know, you're talking about, excuse me, about the brick. Yeah. So like it's in the facade. Yes. Yeah. So like that. That was one that was
00:11:20
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in the old neighborhood, I didn't get a chance to purchase it. They didn't have it at the one particular store. It was called Drury's Lager. That was the beer that I said that we didn't get when I was washing shirts, yeah. That was one of the different matches that I wore. They had a big, it was right next to the old St. Stephen's Church in the apartment building that was adjacent to it, and the whole side of the building was their whole logo. That's also my website.
00:11:46
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It was her whole logo. Oh, yeah. Yeah, so and like a quick thing about
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That's still my wife. My wife is handling the hoes here. Sorry. I didn't realize you had mice here. I also sounded shady. But I was going to say a quick thing about like the the tide houses since I mentioned it a couple of times just kind of going back into history for like if we have listeners that don't know what those are. Yeah. It's basically the tide houses were bars that were fully operated.
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and funded by the breweries. So for example, back in the early 1900s, I wanted to open a bar and I wanted to get product. I would go out to a brewery and say, hey, I need product. And they say,
Chicago's Neighborhood Bars
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OK, we'll give you all of our product. They would come in and do the tap handles. They would set everything up for them, basically build out their entire bar. But you're a Schlitz bar. And they would get those logos, put it into the brick, and all that kind of stuff.
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and that they would just run and, like, solely be selling Schlitz. And, you know... I wonder... Sorry, now it's getting up, but I wonder how many buildings have been...
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connected um you know where buildings built on top of a building next door that some of those tide houses maybe are still covered up because i don't know where i'll do that yeah i it would be interesting to know if there was like a map of where a lot of these places were sounds like we've got another episode on our hand brandon you could do that yeah old neighborhood wood street and division go south augusta boulevard going east and what and stuff like that yes i'll polish and
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Ukrainian and everything else and you go further south and you know, yeah, it would be cool to what always fascinated me too and again and like and I equate this to You know the quote-unquote old man beer like Schlitz and old-style and other stuff is like the corner neighborhood bars and not like the corner of you know Irving and Central or something like that. It's like it's literally tucked into a neighborhood. It's a neighborhood building and like literally it's a bar and
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I forgot what article that I saw but it was something about the old style signs being how it's very iconic in Chicago and I mean that's it's it's a Chicago beer but that there's a few I think there's a few places in Wisconsin that have like there's like one or two bars that actually have the old style sign up in Wisconsin yeah
Family Bars and Old Style Memories
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But that's what I remember growing up and going to bars with my dad when I couldn't actually be in a bar, but they let me in there. But in a lot of those bars, those were the bars that you grew up that you didn't know had a name. It was just the old style bar. Actually, they were just family bars, really, because it was just a guys out. After working stuff, it would be
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the whole family
00:14:54
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I mean, that was a family bar. And I'm sure the other family bars are the same way that kind of just operated the same way of being open at like seven in the morning and having those guys come in that are getting off work, policemen, firemen, or whoever, or working in a hospital or anything like that. Yeah, it kind of all goes back down. Totally. And my other thought, too, was if that was kind of in any way connected to the whole like tide house thing. Yeah. You know, I think so. I think, you know, like because I think because in the image, Jeff, I gave you a coaster for a reason.
00:15:21
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And a lot of those places, old style was the predominant beer. Like, that's where you would go to get your old style. It didn't work the same way because they carried other styles too, but it was kind of the same. Not necessary styles, but it was other brands. And ironically, they were talking about this. Jeff is drinking out of an old style glass. As am I. I'm sorry. Like I said, I did not give you the old style glass. I forgot. It's all good. I feel like I got these from my father-in-law, that these were old style glasses that he had that he was no longer using. And I ended up with them. So sorry, Mike, if that's the truth.
Nostalgia: Hams Beer
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So Schlitz was the first beer. We're going to move straight on to Hams.
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I've had, we had the conversation about hams with the paleo episode, didn't we? With Kevin? I believe so. I have a fondness, here we go, of hams that I didn't realize that I, I didn't have hams when I was younger. It was PBR and old style. And as I got older, oh yeah, that's a good pore sound all over my table.
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As I got older I discovered hams and found out that hams was kind of like an old style type beer. At least that's what I equated it to. So I don't know the history of hams. Do you guys have a history of hams at all? Or a recollection at least of...
00:16:41
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Yes, I was winged on hams. Holy shit, it looks like water in your glass, Brandon. It does. It's super light. It's a nice reflection. But again, I'm sure most people know these beers, but if you don't, they're all lagers. They're all pretty much when someone says, hey, give me a beer. It's a yellow fizzy beer. But they all have their own different flavors as far as lagers go, but they're pretty much made the same way.
00:17:10
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Either one of you, what was your, you said you were weaned on hams? Yeah, all the uncles, fathers, uncles. Everybody drank hams? Things like that. That's what they started with. They started with hams and then he switched to old style and then he went to, I don't know what he went to after that. I was getting on my own terms. I can't wait you guys are drinking anymore. It's my stuff. This stuff is not for me. The old guys are drinking it so I can't get my own. I can't get my own shit. Yeah.
00:17:38
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Yeah, and I don't think I ever, you know, starting drinking beer, I never really had hams. I knew of it, you know, and I thought it was gone. I thought it was kind of like a fossil beer. I have a home. Exactly. That's exactly what I was going to say is that it was like one of those beers that you thought kind of like went to the wayside and like wasn't around anymore. And then, you know, this is Schlitz was the beer that was they redid the recipe, correct? Not hams. Schlitz, they redid the recipe and then didn't they end up going back the original?
00:18:07
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Sorry, that's something I probably should have. I think so. That sounds correct. If anybody knows that, go ahead and send us a message. Yeah. So let's change the recipe. And I think they went back. And like I said, if anybody knows it, go ahead and let us know. But Ham's has pretty much been the same thing. But I don't remember seeing Ham's as a kid.
Hams Beer Advertising Memories
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Really? So I was born in a, Brandon and I were both born in the early 80s. Well, again, they were one of the first beers to have an animated advertisement.
00:18:33
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What was it? Was it just a cartoon move? Yeah, it was animated. Was it like the Flintstones selling Winston cigarettes? No. Wait, that was a thing? Yes. Oh, dude, look at that on YouTube. To me, that's one of the most famous things where it was like... Wilma. How about another Winston? Hey, bud. I was really good that the girls are cutting the lawn. Let's have a Winston. That's my friend for some other one. That was the hams...
00:19:00
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little catch tune from the land of sky blue waters waters from the land of sky blues comes a very refreshing hams that's a great jingle you know and when we're done talking um i think at some point when i go back to edit this i will probably end the episode with the hams uh little jingle there because uh i don't know if
00:19:28
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It was a bear. I don't know if it's a copyright thing if I use that anymore. I think it's free. What do you call that? When something is no longer copyright protected? Free Mason. No. Anyway. I got to say, Hamz is refreshing. And the last time we spoke about it, my cousin Kevin was on. We did a paleo episode. And we talked about some of the beers we had. And my cousin Justin.
00:19:54
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brought a 24 pack or 30 pack to a family party and we got rid of it so easy. It's one of those beers that's like, I think it's 4% alcohol. It's kind of one of those beers that you don't really have to think about. It's just a day drinking beer. It's a beer to be refreshed.
Hams: Everyday Refreshment?
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That's it. If you're mowing the lawn, you're mowing the lawn, you want a beer afterwards. Hams is the beer you want. That's pretty much only my experience with hams.
00:20:21
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But I like it, I.E. You don't really mow the lawn, your wife does all that. I'm gonna edit that out of this. I'm gonna edit that out of this. It's not by choice, Laura enjoys mowing the lawn. And also, Jeff, I mowed the lawn last time. Oh yeah, that's right. And I mowed your lawn, you're welcome. Yes, I might've said thank you once. Once, once.
Debate: Hams vs. Schlitz
00:20:43
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Okay, so right now, I know, maybe we don't have to rank of it, but as of right now, if I had to choose between the two, I'm gonna say hams over slits.
00:20:50
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Nah, I'm gonna go Schlitz over Hams. Brandon, you got a choice on this? Take another sip. Schlitz over Hams. I think there's more flavor in Schlitz, but I like the... I think Hams is more refreshing to me.
00:21:08
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Okay. I guess it'd be a more situational, thank you. You're allowed to have bad decisions. Okay. I think it would depend on the situation. No, I take that back. It'd just be, I would just see Hams over Schlitz any day. Any day. Go to hell Schlitz. Hams is the winner right now with me. I don't think so.
00:21:25
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For me, it is. Well, it's two to two to one right now. Two to one. So you guys have your own opinion. You're throwing out Chicago history right there, man.
Hams' Minnesota Connection
00:21:33
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Hams is I just looked it up because I was curious. Yeah, I saw you. That's what you're doing. It's a St. Paul based beer. St. Paul, Minnesota. St. Paul, Minnesota. Hence the beer with the bear and the woods.
00:21:45
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Yeah, well, I'll take this. So once I saw that, I quickly, something like Bob went off in my head, the company that I work for, the building, our office in St. Paul is in the Hams building. Really? So I googled that real quick to see what it is. And I think it may just be named after them. It had nothing to do with the actual brewery. It was just kind of like named for them. But I was like, that's kind of an interesting tie in. And it's an awesome building.
00:22:14
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The elevators suck, but it's nothing to do. Those damn elevators. I'll go back to Schlitz. We used to go to a place in Wisconsin off to Del's Lake Delton and stuff. They had a little cabin. And there was a family over there. Everyone would meet on the beach at nighttime and stuff. And there was a family. Uncles and brothers and stuff like that. They'd come out and they'd have their Schlitz because they worked out of Milwaukee.
00:22:44
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and they come out with these 16 ounce green label schliss. It was like 8.5% alcohol. Wow. That sounds like something I would want to try. No, we don't sell this too much at all. It's not on the market. They were just kind of.
00:23:19
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and it tastes like PBR. It just tastes like PBR. That's dangerous. Yeah, it was because, well, not really. I'm not a huge fan of PBR. I'm saying if you were a fan of PBR and you were... Well, and there's a light version too. So I would actually, I haven't tried that. So I wouldn't mind trying that. Question. Yeah. Schlitzbury. Is that from Laverne and Shirley?
00:23:26
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they brewed for the guys or whatever it was.
00:23:40
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Yeah, I don't know. Jeez. Well, so we've gotten through two beers. We got through hams and schlitz. We've got a couple more left. We've got Old Style. We've got High Life. Oh, it was Shotsbury, sorry. Oh, Shotsbury. Oh, very good. Very good. Ooh, Shots. Which makes me think even more that it was schlitz. No, they just chose Shotsbury. So who do you aim to try?
00:24:08
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I think what we'll do is the paps blue ribbon. I don't know. Where do you go next? Because those three, I save those three because those are the three or the old style. The old style paps and highlight are the three beers that I specifically had in my twenties when I was just like, I didn't buy Bud Light. I didn't buy Miller Lite. I didn't like those and
00:24:35
Speaker
paps was because hipsters started drinking it I don't know if they started drinking it because my like my generation was drinking it and it was a cheap beer so hipsters were like this is cool let's start drinking this whatever it's a cheap beer I don't care if it's a shitty beer I just didn't like other beers I did like those beers but those beers are actually the ones that got me into beer and drinking beer and then from there I went to Guinness which is crazy and then
00:25:02
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bells over on and shit like that.
Old Style at Cubs Games
00:25:05
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So I don't know, I feel like I'd like to go old style next, but I think before we go on to old style, I think what I'd like to do is what we call a little break. Go for it.
00:25:29
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Pour in ice cold hams and treat yourself to the premium beer from Land of Sky Blue Waters. Great tasting hams.
00:26:37
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And we're back! You son of a bitch! I'm gonna fucking steal it from you one day. We're back. We're here with Jeffrey. Tony. And we're talking about Old Man Beers or where it all started.
00:26:58
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We've moved on to the old style old style which has a rich Chicago history as we were talking about before a lot of the bars in the area In Chicago have the well at one point a lot of the local bars when we say neighborhood bars They're not on the main streets, but they're on a main street and maybe a side street not so much I mean intersection of a street, but you can still find them around
00:27:22
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Chicago, the giant of old-style signs and that's kind of what we were talking about, Brandon. That's what we thought bars were called, basically. They're old-style. Old-style was the first beer. There's a picture somewhere and maybe I can find it. That'd be a funny picture for this episode. If I can get my mom to scan the picture of it, my dad as a baby
00:27:45
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very young, maybe not a baby. Has an old style can in his hand and maybe even letting me try it. So, you know, thanks dad. Old style is officially the first beer I ever tried in my life. And I think everybody, as far as listeners here in Chicago... Don't you love it?
00:28:05
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I do. As a baby, I probably didn't like it. As an adult, when I was in my 20s, I did like Old Style. I thought I did think it was a cheap beer. I didn't necessarily go out on my way to buy it. Let's not say cheap. Let's say inexpensive. Say, you're right. It sounds expensive. Correct. It's definitely inexpensive. Beer is not cheap to me. I'm just taking a sip of it right now because we're drinking out of this nice 24-ounce cans, which
00:28:32
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This might be the cheapest beer purchasing episode we've ever had. I bought two 24 ounce cans and one six pack of the little guys of high life. I spent $8.18 tonight to get these beers. Old style reminds me a lot of high life as far as the sweetness goes. Out of the three beers we've had so far with hams, schlitz, and now old style, this is the sweetest of the three. I would agree. Concur.
00:29:01
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What is your experience with Old South? The same as everybody else in Chicago? Pretty much so. Everyone changed as...
00:29:14
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whatever happens. It just goes down in five, six, seven, eight years. You get tired of this one and you do something else and stuff. Like I said, they started with Schlitz and the family, then Hams and then Nollstyle.
Old Style's Chicago Significance
00:29:27
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So we're actually moving chronologically. I like that. To me,
00:29:34
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Old style, as we were just talking about before we came back from the break, old style was the one beer that you would get at Wrigley. And I feel like when I would go to Cubs games, when the Cubs were not doing so great and you get tickets for cheap or someone had tickets and you'd go with them, that's what you were drinking. You were drinking. And they were like, what? At that time, like a 16 ounce.
00:29:53
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Cuffs for like, yeah, four or five bucks. Maybe it was expensive then, but man, I still wish you could get like a four or five dollar beer. I remember when I was a buck twenty-five. Your age is showing, Jeff. Yes, I know. Jeff is forty, and Brandon and I are in our late thirties, so Jeff is mmm, we're on our age, but he remembers it when it was much cheaper. You're really good. You bullshitter.
00:30:18
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But yeah, old style is good to me. I mean, Brandon, you've already finished yours. I mean, it's an easy-drinking beer.
00:30:25
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Yeah, and the funny thing about Old Style, it's like, I don't know if I really have a story about Old Style. I mean, I know I have a vivid memory of like, it was either that or like Miller Lite that, you know, when my family had parties or like, you know, we were boating or whatever that was Old Style or Miller Lite. And like, I still think back in my head, I don't remember what beer it was, but I do remember there was a time like, back in the day, my dad smoked cigars, he would smoke them in the house.
00:30:54
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and he had gone to the bathroom. I was like six or seven years, I was like six or seven years old, maybe younger, I don't know. And he'd gone to the bathroom and I grabbed his beer and I grabbed his cigar that he had on the ashtray. And I walked into the kitchen and my mom was in there and I like took a sip of the beer and a swig of the cigar and I said, hey, look, I'm dead. And they were like, what? It's funny that the,
00:31:21
Speaker
It's funny that you started that story with, I don't have any memories of Old Style. That's a pretty good memory. I don't remember if it was Old Style or something like that. So it was one of those beers and I just remember that story. Was that Old Style or something like that? Sure question. What kind of cigar was it? That's good, that's good. Well it's funny that you said another light because I saw
00:31:42
Speaker
When I was grabbing beer today for this episode, I saw M.G.D., I saw Miller Lite, I saw Bud Lite, and I was like, you know, is this the, did I want to grab these beers as well? But I figured, I mean, those beers, I think that's another episode. I think like we do Bud Lite, we do Miller Lite, we do M.G.D., we do M.G.D., you are one wiser. There's so many. Oh gosh. Yeah, and Jeff, maybe you come back for that one. I think, well, and then actually, my buddy Chris Micah, who loves Pilsners,
00:32:11
Speaker
I wanted to have in mind, because I do have the beer I named after you, Jeff. Shut up, Jeff. Thank you. Which is sitting down, and you're welcome. That is something I said to Jeff one day in my yard. I told him, shut up. I now have said it to him regularly. You've got the whole goddamn neighbors saying that. Your family, too, which I think is a, that's a win for me.
00:32:30
Speaker
But I named a logger after him because they thought it was funny maybe because that a neighbor of yours decided to say it to you as well Everyone's saying it behind your back otherwise But I named the beer shut up Jeff. It was my first real logger
00:32:52
Speaker
And I liked it, but what I was saying is that maybe when we do like a real Pilsner episode, my friend Chris, who has a Arancini food truck, he wanted to come on and talk about Pilsner's, actually, he didn't want to come on, I asked him to come on to it, and I asked him what his favorite beer style was, and he said Pilsner's, so maybe that'll be the time we kind of dig into those beers, like Pilsner, Urquell, and, oh, what is it? Is St. Poly Girl still a beer?
00:33:21
Speaker
I think so. When was the last time you saw a St. Pauli hero? I'm not looking for it, but I can't remember seeing St. Pauli hero. That's a pilsner as well. So maybe that'll be the time we do that. I'm sorry, I'm getting off the top of here, but I just want Chris to bring our Aranchenes. Chris, if you actually listen to the show and you're listening to this episode right now, we want you to bring the Aranchenes and Jeff will come back and be on the show for it. We will pair pilsners with Aranchenes. That sounds pretty good, right? Call for it. I'm okay with that.
00:33:49
Speaker
Anyway, yeah, so old style. Back to old style. I mean, it's, I don't know how much more needs to be said about it, other than, I mean, it is the Chicago beer. It is the staple of our city, and if you have
00:34:06
Speaker
If you're born, at least if you were born and raised in Chicago, you have had Old Style one point in your life. And I don't, as far as a, what did we say? Not a cheap beer, but an expensive beer. It's pretty tasty. It's up there with the beers. Now, if we're going back to what I had said before, between hams, schlitz, and Old Style, I still sit with hams. Where are you guys on this? I still like the schlitz. I'm surprised.
00:34:36
Speaker
It's been so long since I tried these. I'm torn between the Schlitz and the old style actually. I can see that. There's a lot of flavor in the old style actually. And I think it might be more drawn towards the old style because it's more familiar and I've had that more often. I think there's a little bit more carbonation inside the old style.
00:34:58
Speaker
There's I think there's a there's a sweetness to the the old salad I really like that like I said before it kind of reminds you of high life and when we get to high life That's I mean, we'll see if that still ranks. I mean high life is my my go-to Inexpensive beer that is I enjoy high life immensely and we'll see if that's the beer that that reigns supreme this evening but the next beer that we're gonna go into is the
00:35:26
Speaker
ever so popular hipster beer. It is a beer that I have bought a dirty 30 of many times. It is a beer in my 20s I drank a lot of. It is the beer that I know for sure has won an award because it has a blue ribbon on it. We need a drum roll.
00:35:52
Speaker
Who saw that coming? Who saw that coming? I don't know. And the funny thing is, and people will see this when I take the picture, what is up with this label? What's going on there?
00:36:03
Speaker
Is it just a bad can or like? I have the exact same can. Yeah. It is just. I've got one that. I thought something was wrong with my can. One place and one. Yeah, for a separate place. It's just what it looks like right now and I don't know what it is. I'll take a better look at it but it is weird because it used to say paps, blue ribbon and white and now it's just kind of like light blue schmear. Schmear. It's a schmear. If you're in New York and you're having a bagel, it's a schmear. All right, so I'm gonna pour these up now. Now, Jeff, what is your,
00:36:33
Speaker
History of the Paps of the Reuben. Were you a Paps of the Reuben guy at all at any point? No. Never? Never had a Paps of the Reuben. All right, next beer. Wait. Hold on. Hold on. Hold the goddamn phone. You've never had a Paps ever in your life. Never. Holy shit. That. No. That's the truth.
00:36:50
Speaker
That is blowing my mind right now because I thought for sure 40 year old man to never have 40 year old man has never had past the ribbon. God I don't know but it wasn't in the family and it wasn't in the taste buds of the system. I mean that is like crystal. And you can't. Ours look the same because we had the same glass but Brandon's yours looks a little more
00:37:12
Speaker
Yellow because you're a little more in there. You have a more close clap So paps, let's take a sip of this real quick I Get that same sweetness of the old style a little bit. Okay, I get Metal Like I get longer and everything. It's just it's
00:37:42
Speaker
I don't like it. This is probably my least favorite of the four that we've had so far. I concur because it's just a little bit, I don't know, it's got a bite to it. Yeah. And it's not like a bite, like a hot bite. Jeff was trained to hate PBR, apparently. Never had it, never in my family. Go to hell for all I care.
00:38:07
Speaker
Does it exist? I mean, would I drink it? Yes, it's. Yeah. But even when I go places like it's not the first thing that I look for when there's if there's no craft beer. Yeah. And it's, you know, if my choices were PBR, old style Miller Lite, Coors Lite, like out of those selections, I'd probably go to the Coors Lite. Yeah. Which was again, another beer that I was thinking about grabbing. I was hoping that they had a regular Coors banquet. They had the six packs of that and I was like,
00:38:36
Speaker
Kinda wanted to get that just to have it. And they also had Lightning Kugel's regular lager. But again, I think we'll save that for another time. But yeah, out of all those options that you said, I think I would probably like go with Coors Light. The only reason why I drank so many peps is that at Christina's place, the bar that I went to, it was $2 PBRs or $2 Guinness.
Pabst Blue Ribbon's Flavor Discussion
00:38:58
Speaker
And after having so many $2 PBRs, I was like, well, my other option is a Guinness. I'm going to try that. And that's where my enjoyment of stouts came to be, because I had a Guinness. And I was like, oh, this is really good. I remember my first Guinness. When was your first Guinness? At the Burton Inn in England. Jesus Christ, we had to trump my story, Jeff. You know what? You're never allowed on the show again. No. So you're in England, and that was the first time you tried Guinness? A friend of ours married a Londoner.
00:39:28
Speaker
He was stationed at the U.S. Naval base as one of the security guards and things like that that he worked for. He was in the Marine Corps. And that was in the end of the place. And he says, you've got to try goodness. Never had goodness. He says, yeah, give you a nice pint. Actually a pint in England was
00:39:51
Speaker
London was 17 ounces. Oh yeah. Isn't it technically 16.9? It's something like that. And he says, yeah, if you pour it, you could put your initial retinue to top of it with the foam and drink it, and it'll still be there when you finish. Guinness, Brandon and I discussed Guinness on our St. Patrick's Day episode, and we did a couple of Irish beers. Guinness wasn't
00:40:16
Speaker
are our favorite of the day, but we both have a fond... Actually, I still have a couple Guinness left. Guinness is a fine beer. I love Guinness. And it's funny when people tell me that they don't like stouts, and then when they think of Guinness, they think of it drinking a loaf of bread when it's one of the lightest beers that is commercially available without it being called the light beer. Actually, during the war, that used...
00:40:43
Speaker
Be a recuperation for the mothers after the birth of a child Yes, because it contains so much iron. That's funny because we were talking we were joking around about the old sayings of Guinness How the Guinness is healthy for you and I was like, no that was just a that's a sales pitch But there's a whole bunch like I love all the old Guinness Advertisements, those are kind of some posters. I wouldn't mind having
00:41:06
Speaker
down here in the old basement. But we're talking about paps. We're talking about paps. We're talking about paps, right? The blue ribbon winner. This is at the bottom of the list if I had to choose it. I think it would go paps, Schlitz, old style hams right now for me. That's where I'm at. But I think you guys agree as far as where paps is probably down at the bottom. Or would you put it over hams?
00:41:31
Speaker
I put it below hams. What about you? Yeah, probably. I've got an order that we're doing right now. Schlitz, I was surprised that I liked it better than the hams. And then the old style and now the paps.
00:41:49
Speaker
Yeah, I think for the last Super Bowl, my dad brought this, that's where the story's going. I brought him over to my friend Vito's house for the Super Bowl, and I was like, dad, grab some beer that you want. I'm gonna grab something that I want. I grabbed a six pack of something pretty good. I think I grabbed a Revolution straight jacket that, or something that you and I shared, Brandon, because you showed up. And my dad comes back to me with a 30 pack of Schlitz, or not Schlitz, came back with a 30 pack of PBR because it was like,
00:42:19
Speaker
13 bucks and you got a free thing of peanuts. Oh yeah, that's a great deal. I saw the peanuts. I still got the peanuts. And that's what I drank with my dad and the best part about it was being someone who drinks craft beer and all these other like maybe higher alcohol beers, I thought I was gonna have a terrible hangover from drinking PBR because of the sweetness from it and I didn't. I was fine, it was pretty good.
00:42:48
Speaker
I wouldn't kick PBR out of the bed, as the saying goes. Right, as the saying goes. Kicking out of bed for eating crackers? Yeah, thank you. I missed that part, yeah. Wouldn't kick PBR out of the bed for eating crackers. Yes, without the cheese.
00:43:04
Speaker
but if I had to choose yeah paps wouldn't be up there but with these guys these guys I'd choose over it all right so that brings us to
00:43:21
Speaker
One more beer. Well, it's your favorite. It is my favorite. I'm going to buy this here. You brought the big can, but I feel like it's appropriate. We're not going to use glasses for this because I got the little bottles. In fact, I'm going to go ahead and finish that. I'm going to take this here with my glass over here. I'm going to bust out the little bottles. If you don't want to take it back to your house, I'll keep it, Jeff. Don't worry. Thank you. I'm very excited about having this. Like I said, I have to get rid of all that beer out of the fridge and the garage because it's taken up
00:43:52
Speaker
quality uh cooler space well the good news is i'll keep it in my fridge and whenever you want whenever i get jeff do you want a beer because i've got all the beers from the episode yes go be in my fridge so i've got these adorable little what size are these six ounces i don't know uh let's see i think it's eight okay it's it could be six i'm sure it is a twist off which is a great thing
00:44:16
Speaker
Oh, I will say this, do not smell it. Seven. Seven ounces. Do not smell it from the bottle. Don't smell it. It does not smell great from the bottle. But we are gonna drink right now. What I feel like is, I know Miller is just Miller beers in general.
00:44:36
Speaker
When I think of Wisconsin, this is what I think of, because when I go camping, I go camping in Wisconsin. You can use that coaster there. I go camping in Wisconsin. I need the fucking coasters to be used, Jeff. Otherwise, I gotta edit this out.
00:44:51
Speaker
I get a lot of that, you gotta edit it out anyway. Well, when Eric and Emil are on the show, Eric is always... There's a lot better than farts. Yeah, definitely. Actually, we have... Actually, you've been pretty good tonight. Well, that's because I know we're recording. I don't think we've had a single fart on an episode yet, which is... Yeah, you guys outside there, you don't want to be around, but he's not recording.
00:45:10
Speaker
Not at all. Because I'm getting the hell out of here too. I know we're cutting into the high life, but the one interesting fact that we did not mention about PBR for folks that may not know is that Pabst Blue Ribbon used to just be called Pabst.
00:45:27
Speaker
Yes. And the reason it got the name Pabst Blue Ribbon was because they had a beer competition at the 1873 World's Fair in Chicago. That's where I started kind of touching on that, but I get the history on it. And they got the Blue Ribbon, so they figured, well, why not put Blue Ribbon on the name?
PBR's 1873 World's Fair Victory
00:45:45
Speaker
and they wrote it. Do you think that was over a hundred years later? Do you think it was like a BJCP competition too? Yeah, probably not. But there's interesting stories about that too that like if you go back and like there's a history of beer in Chicago. It was rigged. Yes, it was rigged. Really? Yes. I vaguely remember reading some historical myths about that.
00:46:08
Speaker
Like, I don't remember who all the other competitors were in that. I'm sure you could look it up. But yeah, there was people threw money in to make paps the winner and they did. And then paps was like, all right, well, we're just gonna put the blue ribbon on our marketing and they win. Good on them, I guess. Seeing all this corruption in Chicago started
00:46:32
Speaker
with naps three, five decades ago. It was 110 years ago. Welcome to Chicago everybody. What I originally was saying was that Miller is obviously from Wisconsin.
Miller High Life's Wisconsin Ties
00:46:47
Speaker
Wisconsin being our northern neighbor that I love and cherish and they're a big beer drinking state.
00:46:53
Speaker
When I think of Wisconsin, I actually do, other than Spotted Cow and New Glares, shout out to your daughter, I think of High Life because when I would do a camping in Wisconsin and you wanted a cheap beer, I wasn't reaching for PBR, I wasn't reaching for Old Style, there was High Life. High Life was my dirty 30.
00:47:14
Speaker
Growing up, when I lived with Kevin, Kevin and I had an apartment together. When we got beer, we would get a 30-pack of high life because we thought it tasted good.
00:47:25
Speaker
And we didn't feel like shit the next day. And we had beer left over. And High Life has still, even, like I said, don't smell the bottle. It doesn't smell great. I feel like if it was a glass, we'd probably smell a little better. But I will say, drinking this, this still reigns supreme over all the beers. For me, for me, this reigns supreme over everything we drink tonight. It has a better sweetness than Old Style.
00:47:50
Speaker
very sweet, but there's a sweetness to it. Yeah, that sounds stupid. It's not as sweet as old style. It's smooth as all the other beers. And if I had to copy a recipe to make of a lager that I want on tap, it is Miller High Life, you beautiful seven ounce cute little bottle. Well, here's, got sent to my uncle Richie Pablowski.
00:48:18
Speaker
slash name Jujibabe. It's a good burp. He would always have, we'd have old stuff, hams at the barn. Give me the champagne of bottle beers. There you go. Give me a more hype. That is the... He would always say it like that.
00:48:36
Speaker
It is the champagne of beers for me. It is like, and when I say the champagne of beers, it is the champagne of all of these beers.
Miller High Life: The Preferred Beer
00:48:44
Speaker
There's just, I don't know what they do to brew this beer. It is my favorite as far as flavor goes, this drinkability goes. If all these beers were presented in front of me, I may not be redundant, but if all these beers were presented in front of me of what do you want, I will go high life.
00:49:04
Speaker
Over Chicago tradition, I will go High Life. I would go probably that because we have things at my brother's house.
00:49:17
Speaker
He's a big fan. So you would go highlight? Yeah, I think I'd go Schlitz, surprising, and the highlight. I'm not surprised. Schlitz was very good. I just haven't had it for a long time, and I forgot how much it was. No, the Schlitz. Yeah, that's what I'm saying, yeah. So would you go Schlitz, highlight, then what? Schlitz, highlight, hams, old style, and paps. Paps. Braden? What about you, Braden? Where do you land on this? Ooh.
00:49:49
Speaker
Life probably would be first. Wow. Yeah I mean, I know it's seven ounces, but I'm like I'm drinking this and the fact that it's the last beer We kind of sat on some of these other beers and it's the last beer that we're trying, right? We all kind of seem to be going through it alone I mean we've had a lot of beer tonight, but we all kind of seem to keep sipping on a little bit more than the other ones. I
00:50:18
Speaker
It's an awesome beer. And we've brewed and bought these. Yes, there's been these exact bottles. There was a brew day, I forget what it was for, a festival. It was for the Great Lakes Brew Fest. We were brewing a beer and we said,
00:50:37
Speaker
Because sometimes, okay, forewarning, during some of our brew days, it turns into kind of a shit show because we'll share a whole bunch of beers that we all enjoy drinking, and sometimes they're higher alcohol, or there's just a lot of them, and then all of a sudden it's like, oh God, we forgot to add hops here, we forgot to do this there. You've actually just, you've seen that. You've seen that as a being here. And those are the beers that it's like, there's nothing to like, I'm just brewing it to heaven. And it's like, ah, we'll have to miss that while we figure it out.
00:51:03
Speaker
Well, we did it for the Great Lakes Brew Fest last year. Mike and I grabbed the Fireman
00:51:11
Speaker
16 ounce old style cans.
Walter's Beer Memories
00:51:13
Speaker
There's like Chicago firefighters, there's access on everything. For some reason, Mike saved the cans after we broke it. There's still this Mountain's house. I don't know what he's doing with it. Yeah, Mike, I'm calling you out. I know you listened to the show. But we also bought these little seven ounce bottles, and when I saw them again, I was like, oh man, I gotta get these. But these are perfect. I mean, this is actually the right size. If you come home from work, you don't wanna drink a beer, but you kinda want some beer.
00:51:39
Speaker
Mm-hmm come we got stuff to do like you know what crack it up one of these seven ounce Highlifes and then maybe before you go to bed like I'm gonna have one more of these seven times. Oh That's 14 ounces in a whole day. I can do that. I can do that Laura. That's responsible I remember the little bottles way back when I was telling you of these or of just in general another I
00:52:02
Speaker
beer up in Wisconsin. Which one? Walter's beer. That sounds made up, Jeff. It's not. Brandon, I'm going to use the factor for that. No, no, no. It was Walter's beer and they had. Keep talking. This is Walter's beer. Call.
00:52:24
Speaker
Little Wally's. Oh, I was hoping they were going to call it Walt's beer. Little Wally's. Wait, not to cut you off. Brandon, do you know of the brewery that's making those small beers right now? There's someone making it. No, and I think I saw it recently. It's Chicago Brewery, and they're making small cans out of lagers. And it might be maybe based off what you're saying. No, I remember because the whole
00:52:48
Speaker
Just a back of the woods by the lake, and families are there and stuff like that. And that was the only tavern on the lake. And he served Walter's beer. But that was the first time I heard of the name Leidenkugels. Oh, yeah. We're talking in the early 60s. I could do a whole episode on all the Leinenkugel beers. Because I used to really enjoy Leinenkugel beers. And I never had regular Leinenkugel.
00:53:22
Speaker
I like all of their summer shit. And when I say summer shit, I don't mean it's shit beer, but like it's kind of just, you know, that's going to make them money. It's a fruity beer. All the shandies are pretty good.
00:53:37
Speaker
There it is. Brandon pulled up the picture of Walter's beer. It's a case of Walter's beer. Holy poop. You know, currently for sale on eBay. Way to not swear on the episode, Jeff. I appreciate it. I said holy poop. I know. And I fucking said that was great that you didn't swear on the episode. I fucking appreciate it. OK. Shut up, Jeff. I got it in. I got it in.
00:53:57
Speaker
Lining Google's whole line of all the shandies and all the stuff that like when they do the special ones during Christmas and things like that, I actually really do enjoy them. Laura I know enjoys all of the shandies, all the different flavors, and as fall comes around they start doing those. And that's kind of what I think reignited Lining Google to be a thing. And now they've brought back the regular Lining Google logger.
00:54:19
Speaker
So I think when we do the real logger show or Pilsner show, we bring Chris on with his rice balls. I think Chris, please bring us some. So what are you thinking about the concessions here? You're going to go with the Miller High Life? I'm going with the High Life. You're telling me? I'm going with the High Life. Brandon, I'm going with the High Life. You're going to go. I'm sorry. I'm so surprised. I'm going to stick with the Schlitz. I don't blame you. And I don't blame you. As much as I put hams over Schlitz,
00:54:47
Speaker
As much as I put... Say that again? As much as I put hams over shits. Don't say it again. As much as I put hams over Schlitz, I'm not surprised. I think it's just a... Schlitz is a very good beer when we're talking about these beers.
00:55:03
Speaker
I would drink any of these. I mean, we're talking about, you know, if you had to like, you're on a desert island, which one are you gonna choose? I would choose, honestly, I would choose any of these, but High Life is the winner for me. I would go High Life, Hams, Schlitz, Old Style, PBR.
00:55:20
Speaker
And I actually have a hard time putting old style where it is. I don't put old style down there so low because I don't think it's as good, but I just feel like PBR actually is the worst of all these and all these I would drink regardless. PBR I can put on the back burner.
00:55:37
Speaker
Agree. Yeah, and I think that's why we never buy PBR for anything that we use. Nothing. No, yeah, you're right. It's never like our brew beer or whatever. I would get old style over here. Surprise it everywhere. Hipsters. Cool kids. Cool hipsters. When they say hipsters. And it's the price point, too, that most of the places sell it at. It's inexpensive. And even though high life is as inexpensive as PBR, you're still buying from the man because it's Miller. Yeah.
00:56:06
Speaker
but it's fucking delicious. We've all- I'll turn back the clock and you guys get out there and have yourself another Schlitz. I wish we just would have ended the episode right there. It's gonna let you sit, stop. I might edit, and it's gonna come back around where that's what he says. Where are we on time? 56 minutes. Perfect.
00:56:29
Speaker
That's an episode, Jeff. That's an editor's note, by the way. Yeah, he's got to go over and edit all this shit. Happy 10th episode. Yeah. Yeah. You know what? You're right. Happy 10th episode, Brandon. Oh, Brandon's going back for the people.
00:56:47
Speaker
I need something for cheers. I thought you were going to cheers me. That's why I was like, I got it. But I just slammed that. Hold on, hold on. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Old pile. There's some old pile left. This is what the kids would call it. Old pile. You still have some of your. I have mine. OK. Brandon, cheers for 10 episodes, which is not a huge deal. But for us, you and I, with our lives, that's a huge deal. It is. Thanks, Jeff. And Jeff, thank you. Thank you. Jeff, thank you for coming on to the show. I would say finally, except
00:57:14
Speaker
I've never invited you until now, but you were part of the show. I appreciate you coming on. I can see you coming on for, I have ideas for you coming on for more shows. But everybody else, thank you for listening.
00:57:30
Speaker
for these 10 episodes. It's been a cool trip so far. And we appreciate it immensely. And I think, you know what, Jeff? I think every 10 episodes you just come back on. There you go. What do you think about that? A fantastic idea. You'll be on in December then.
00:57:49
Speaker
It's fucking cold out there. We're not going in the garage. That'd be the garage episode, yeah. You might come on before that. But I'm saying, I think on every 10th episode, it's, you're on and maybe other people come on too, but I think you're- Yeah, they can always take me every 10 times.
00:58:06
Speaker
I see every fucking day. God damn it. Well, everybody, thank you. Brandon, cheers, man, for 10 episodes. It's been awesome. Thanks for all the hard work that you do for this. And thanks, everybody, for listening. And this was a lot of fun. I'm looking forward to all the other stuff that we do.
00:58:23
Speaker
Hey, actually, when people hear this, we're arguing with the Mount Vernon Brewfest. Yes. So we're gonna, I think we have a recap. I think we're, maybe we'll have some recordings from it. I don't know yet. I don't know, but I think episode 11 will be a recap from that episode. It'll be a recap, and eventually, and maybe after that, we will finally go, not finally, but we'll go back to Fishman's to do a part two, everybody. So don't worry, Fishman's episode part two,
00:58:47
Speaker
We'll be on soon. I lied about having Mike and Emil on for the IPA. That was, I said they're gonna be on for sure. And the shaggy-town, like, we're gonna do it, we send it here, they're gonna be on. That didn't happen. Yeah, things happen, life, you know. Mike's also happy with that, though. He didn't want to be on the show. But Mike, you'll be on. You will be on an episode. All right, guys. Well, Jeff, cheers. Thanks. Cheers. Cheers. Cheers, your empty bottle. Shut up. Sounds good. It does sound good. Adios.
00:59:34
Speaker
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