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Speaker: Bigger Talks, Bigger Talks.
Speaker: We're back again with another episode and I have the amazing Candice Horvath, a wife, entrepreneur, mother, and podcast host of Chatting with Candice.
Speaker: Candice, how are you?
Speaker: How's it going?
Speaker: Welcome to Bigger Talks.
Speaker: I'm doing fantastic.
Speaker: Thank you so much for having me on.
Speaker: I'm really excited to do this.
Speaker: Yeah, I think, you know, I think it's important for people to get to know who the real Candace is, as opposed to what people think she is from what they see or what they think they know.
Speaker: So, you know, I want to start off with your mission.
Speaker: And we can kind of start from that.
Speaker: Your mission is, you stated, to inspire people to expand their curiosity and
Speaker: think independently and not be afraid of your messiness.
Speaker: Can you kind of like unpack that and elaborate on what that means?
Speaker: I love that.
Speaker: Oh, oh, thank you.
Speaker: It means so many things.
Speaker: So I think a lot of times when it comes to very, especially taboo topics, polarizing topics, we tend to want to put ourself in a camp because we all want to belong to something.
Speaker: Our minds are also a little bit lazy, so we don't want to have a lot of nuanced thinking.
Speaker: We just kind of,
Speaker: we have shit to do.
Speaker: So we, you know, we put everything in these buckets or these camps and then we identify with those things.
Speaker: And I'm no different than everyone else.
Speaker: I've, you know, I've drifted into that way of thinking before, and then luckily try to catch myself and constantly recalibrate.
Speaker: When I say life is messy, it's,
Speaker: We all have done things that are complicated.
Speaker: We've all done things that are shades of gray.
Speaker: There's so much depth to everybody and to just kind of cast someone away as deplorable or a decision away as as deplorable.
Speaker: It's again, it goes to lazy thinking and it's not really understanding the complexity of us.
Speaker: And, you know, all these all these little decisions that
Speaker: and impacts throughout our life that kind of make us who we are and then drive us to do what we do.
Speaker: Now, that's not to say we need to be filled with shame or regret or anything like that, but it's just to say life is a complicated process.
Speaker: And I think one of my main missions and especially launching the podcast was just to bring humanity to a lot of topics and personas and ideas that are kind of
Speaker: off the table like we're not allowed to talk about anymore or just certain people that we write off immediately so i've had really polarizing people on even people i disagree with because i want to be an example and it's like at the end of the day we're all humans and if we want to you know leave the world a better place than where we came into it we have to have compassion we have to have empathy and we have to have conversation
Speaker: Yeah, and I think it's important to have authentic conversations, right?
Speaker: To be transparent, to kind of be open to understanding, not to be so consumed in our way of thinking, our way of being, or our ideologies based on our paradigm or what we believe.
Speaker: And I think for you, you know, I think anybody in a space of that's attractive, that has influence, that has success, you're automatically put in a box based on what the masses are.
Speaker: how people see you or view you, but they don't know the real you.
Speaker: I always tell people nothing is what it seems.
Speaker: Nothing at all.
Speaker: From being successful to having a title to being in relationships.
Speaker: It's not what it seems.
Speaker: Take me to the beginning of Candice.
Speaker: Like when you was a young girl, what was your aspirations?
Speaker: What did you grow up on?
Speaker: Who was your role models and who did you believe in the most?
Speaker: Like what was your upbringing like growing up?
Speaker: And where you from originally?
Speaker: So I never know how to answer that.
Speaker: Where am I?
Speaker: Where am I from question, which sounds really silly, but I was born in L.A.
Speaker: and I spent a good amount of time there.
Speaker: My parents split.
Speaker: So then I moved with my mom and my siblings to upstate New York.
Speaker: And then we did the back and forth because custody battles are great with children.
Speaker: And then after I graduated high school, I moved down to South Carolina for university.
Speaker: And now I'm in North Carolina and North Carolina is like where I put roots down my family as my children were born and I've been the longest.
Speaker: So I say North Carolina now because that was my conscious decision to live here and make this home.
Speaker: So none of the other ones really resonate with that's where I'm from.
Speaker: So I say North Carolina, but I feel like I have to give the whole context.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: As far as my upbringing goes, this is where it gets it's I'm an open book and I tell my story because I think it's important to lead by example and be transparent like you just said.
Speaker: So to preface that.
Speaker: People will say, well, of course she had a rough childhood because of the career she chose, but they have done study after study after study.
Speaker: So this is purely coincidental.
Speaker: But yeah, there was a lot of abuse in the house.
Speaker: My parents split when I was really young, like around five years old.
Speaker: Unfortunately, a lot of the men that my mom decided to date after were also very abusive.
Speaker: And I love my mom.
Speaker: I really do.
Speaker: But it was a very difficult childhood and she had her own wounds that she was dealing with that didn't allow her to show up as the mom I needed her to be growing up.
Speaker: So I, as the oldest, was kind of taking on a lot more responsibility than I probably should have and, you know, kind of taking care of my siblings a lot more than I should have.
Speaker: And I'm very blessed for that, especially with the industry that I decided to get in because it did make me establish hard boundaries and be able to stand up for myself and be able to say no and become like very self-reliant.
Speaker: So all of
Speaker: the things that came out of that are beneficial.
Speaker: As far as role models go, I mean, again, it's like written in the stars.
Speaker: I loved Tara Patrick and Pamela Anderson and Carmen Electra.
Speaker: I found those women to be so
Speaker: powerful, just totally stepping into their feminine energy and owning their sexuality.
Speaker: And I know that gets used and used and used and used, but for those women, it just seemed like they were expressing themselves to be who they truly were.
Speaker: It wasn't, I'm doing this for fame.
Speaker: I'm doing this for money.
Speaker: It was like, no, like these were goddesses on earth and they were just owning it.
Speaker: And I was like, there's something so powerful about these women and they,
Speaker: you know, people can make the daddy issues, jokes.
Speaker: I'm sure there's a little bit of that there, right?
Speaker: Because I obviously didn't, I wasn't modeled like what unconditional love is from a male figure.
Speaker: So of course, I'm going to go into an industry that's, you know, seeking and trying to take that male validation.
Speaker: So I'm absolutely sure there's a little bit of that thrown in there.
Speaker: So thanks, dad.
Speaker: But but yeah, so I think, you know, again, our decisions are a constellation of events that kind of create create that.
Speaker: But those were the women I looked up to.
Speaker: And to me, I didn't see that as shameful or wrong.
Speaker: I was like, no, this is a really powerful woman that can stand in her own right.
Speaker: And then I think that probably brought some peace to me like I can be I can take care of me.
Speaker: And that kind of set the trajectory for me to figure out how I can emulate those women.
Speaker: Yeah, and I think it's important to, you know, not only to give your mom the respect and honor that she deserves, no matter what the outcomes were, right?
Speaker: You love her, you appreciate her, but she did the best she could from what she had available.
Speaker: Like, I was emotionally abandoned as a child, so I had mom issues, right?
Speaker: But I don't hold my mom to that standard because she had me at 21, you know, and...
Speaker: She had my sister a year before.
Speaker: And so now as I'm older, I can have more compassion and grace and say, oh, wait on, you were a kid when you had me.
Speaker: And I think for you, you said something about the career you chose, but do you think
Speaker: things choose you, you don't choose it, to get you to a space to unpack or to kind of break down where you're at to get where you're going.
Speaker: Because now you're a mom and how do you see motherhood and do you have more sympathy for your mom when she had you because of your experience being a mom and being in that position?
Speaker: So I believe in like this really delicate dance between fate and free will.
Speaker: So I think both exist.
Speaker: And I think when you're in kind of an imperfect alignment, that's when everything's happening for you.
Speaker: And, you know, life is just amazing and you're almost manifesting things into your life.
Speaker: So I do think no matter what, I was going to end up somehow doing like nude modeling or, you know, something in the adult industry that was written in the stars for me.
Speaker: And then my free will is kind of what took me into that industry.
Speaker: So total accountability.
Speaker: But also there was some kind of underlying driving force that was, you know, kind of pushing and leading me there.
Speaker: I truly believe that.
Speaker: So I do think that was my path.
Speaker: As far as becoming a mom now and understanding my mom more, I don't know if that's true for me because there are times where I almost don't understand her more now that I'm a mom because –
Speaker: We're just in such different places.
Speaker: And I had a lot more tools at my disposal to kind of get me to where I am and like the woman that I am, the wife that I am, the mom that I am that she just didn't have.
Speaker: So I want to lay that out.
Speaker: But with all of those tools, we are very different women and we're very different mothers.
Speaker: We're very different wives.
Speaker: So when I look at my boys, I'm like,
Speaker: I can't imagine letting someone put hands on them.
Speaker: I can't imagine leaving them for a week with, you know, no food in the house, like all of these things.
Speaker: And again, I'm not blaming her.
Speaker: I love my mom to death and I'm very grateful for the life that I have, but it's not a childhood that I would want to give to my kids.
Speaker: So when I think back sometimes I'm like, man, I'm, I'm left a little bit more confused than before.
Speaker: I mean, that's a great, you know, response because you know how sometimes sometimes
Speaker: the listener or the viewer, you know, they can probably anticipate what the answer is going to be like, oh yeah, like, yeah, I think I get it now.
Speaker: I understand.
Speaker: He's like, no, I don't get it.
Speaker: I don't understand.
Speaker: It doesn't make sense.
Speaker: And I think that's fine because I think that's being transparent about where you are.
Speaker: And I think it's important for people to know
Speaker: First of all, like going into the adult industry, like you said, with your free will.
Speaker: But I also think, you know, maybe parts of you own that sexuality.
Speaker: Right.
Speaker: Because I do know that there are women who want to embrace that side of themselves, but they just don't know how to.
Speaker: And I don't have to go into an industry or do it, but it's a part of life.
Speaker: Right.
Speaker: Absolutely.
Speaker: You know, you know, there's a friend who was talking bad about a former client they had.
Speaker: And I was like, but you took their money.
Speaker: You know, you still took their money.
Speaker: So whether you had this negative, you know, perception of you took their money, you know, everybody goes to the bathroom and
Speaker: That's a number two.
Speaker: So I'm more about like, let's be real, people.
Speaker: No one's perfect.
Speaker: Everyone is hiding behind their profession or their job.
Speaker: I think for you, I think it's powerful that you can own that side of you to talk about it, to help people understand what it was for you, to now be on the other side of it, to say, look, this is my life.
Speaker: This is what I've been through.
Speaker: This is how I overcame it.
Speaker: And this is who I am, unapologetic.
Speaker: Take it or leave it, it's okay.
Speaker: because I know, right?
Speaker: Because of the world you lived in or you're aware of, you know who's clicking on the link or watching the video, appearing to be this perfect person, all this.
Speaker: It's like, come on, man, cut it.
Speaker: But I think, like I said before, I'm just thinking for people like you because you can share your story, not only to help people heal, but understand what it is that got you to where you're at today.
Speaker: My next question is,
Speaker: when you got into the adult industry, was it like a traumatic moment that got you in total?
Speaker: Or is it something that just led you into that space?
Speaker: And you just was like, I'm in it.
Speaker: Was it a survival thing?
Speaker: Like what was the turning point to move you into that?
Speaker: So I think that it was a few things.
Speaker: I was in a pretty bad relationship.
Speaker: It wasn't abusive or anything.
Speaker: It was just not nurturing and just not a healthy one.
Speaker: It was one that was kind of on power dynamics and a lot of
Speaker: fear and you know just open-ended threats that kind of a thing and that was the most stability I had ever had in my whole life so it was really hard to walk away from that like I had never had just had someone there for me all of the time so as bad as it was like that security is what kept me there for a long time for better for worse
Speaker: And I had some health issues that came up.
Speaker: So I was diagnosed with endometriosis and it was really bad.
Speaker: Like I had to actually have surgery because it was the pain was debilitating.
Speaker: And they put me on this medication called Lupron, which if you know anything about it, is a horrible drug.
Speaker: They use it as like chemotherapy for men and actually for castration from chemical castration for men.
Speaker: It's like no joke.
Speaker: So that actually made my symptoms worse.
Speaker: And he just didn't show up for me and made it about him.
Speaker: And, well, I wanted kids and the doctors are saying you can't have kids and just all of this stuff.
Speaker: So it really forced me to be like, this person's not for me.
Speaker: And how can I leave?
Speaker: I didn't have any money.
Speaker: I had always wanted to kind of get into that industry.
Speaker: He was very conservative, so that wasn't going to happen while I was with him.
Speaker: And I was like, you know what?
Speaker: I'm going to make a decision for me, the one that's best for me and true to who I am.
Speaker: And I really want to explore this side of me because I hadn't in any healthy way whatsoever.
Speaker: At that time, I had only been with two men ever.
Speaker: And I just like, again, like felt a pull and the timing was just right.
Speaker: So I started with webcamming because that just was something I could do on my laptop right away.
Speaker: No experience needed and just kind of get my feet wet and see if it was something I wanted to do.
Speaker: And then through that process, I ended up finding a all-girl site that I really liked.
Speaker: It was really high production.
Speaker: I thought the women were beautiful in it and it was always in these tropical houses.
Speaker: And I was like, this just seems...
Speaker: want to be a part of this this looks so fun and exciting to me so i reached out to them and they sent me um just like an email saying we just need your id and your photos and we'll let you know and they were like yeah we'll fly you out to miami i ended up shooting for like three days in a row my scenes went to number one on the site immediately did very well again not experienced it just happened so luck and timing i'm sure
Speaker: And probably because I looked scared shitless and that was probably really authentic so people liked that.
Speaker: And I don't know when I was on that set and in makeup and in wardrobe and you know acting and performing was this is where I'm supposed to be.
Speaker: So I just felt like it was the right decision for me and then the rest is history.
Speaker: And that's the thing.
Speaker: And I think I always go back to the, you know, when I said earlier, I was like, some things choose you, right?
Speaker: For whatever reason.
Speaker: And we might not understand what we might do.
Speaker: Like you said, you embraced it, you loved it, you felt aligned at the time.
Speaker: And there was something you fell into that you embraced and you were successful in it.
Speaker: So I just think that's a that's a win for you in your life and your story, because it worked for you.
Speaker: It might not work for everybody.
Speaker: So, you know, more power to you and all the women who might be in that space.
Speaker: It's OK.
Speaker: Like, I don't want people to have this negative connotation because the world makes it so negative.
Speaker: Right.
Speaker: And it's like it don't have to be that way, because when the person is married or in a relationship, what are they doing?
Speaker: They're intimate, they're having sex, they're fornicating.
Speaker: So it's part of life.
Speaker: So now that we got that out the way, what was the pivot from the adult industry to doing what you're doing now?
Speaker: Like you have the podcast, chatting with Candace, you know, you're an entrepreneur, you're a wife, you're a mom, like what was that pivot like?
Speaker: I mean, we know the beginning, like, what was that like?
Speaker: I mean, you're just doing so many amazing things now.
Speaker: So I met my now husband at the very beginning of my career.
Speaker: So he was there before my first official shoot.
Speaker: So he every decision was a conversation with him.
Speaker: I guess the depth of it depended on how deep we were in the relationship.
Speaker: So in the very beginning, I was like, hey, I'm going to go do this thing.
Speaker: And he was like, oh, cool.
Speaker: That sounds hot.
Speaker: Like, go have fun.
Speaker: But when I started making the decision to do more hardcore scenes, that was literally a conversation for two years between him and I just back and forth, always reinvestigating.
Speaker: There was a time where he was not on board whatsoever.
Speaker: And then towards
Speaker: the end where I made that decision to do it, he was like, I don't want, I don't want there to be any resentment down the road.
Speaker: And I don't want to tell you what to do if this is where, where you feel like you belong.
Speaker: So I'm going to try to be here for you on the other side.
Speaker: I can't promise because this is, I've never done this before.
Speaker: I have no idea how I'm going to react, but I love you.
Speaker: And no matter what, like, I hope like the best for you.
Speaker: So just an incredible man and very supportive, just like unconditional love.
Speaker: Right?
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Unconditional love.
Speaker: And it wasn't easy.
Speaker: I mean, that was super hard.
Speaker: We had a ton of fights, lots of tears, really navigating jealousy.
Speaker: What does that mean?
Speaker: Where does that come from?
Speaker: What do I want in a relationship?
Speaker: What is unconditional love?
Speaker: Is it as soon as you sleep with someone else that we like that love goes away?
Speaker: We're like really getting down to first principles and like unpacking a lot of what other people just kind of shove on to us as just a universal truth.
Speaker: And I think the most empowering part of that was like realizing you get to design your life and you get to design your relationship however you want.
Speaker: And it doesn't mean you have to be open or polyamorous, like you can be monogamous and do all of this, but it's to choose that consciously, to really unpack that and have it be like your decision fully.
Speaker: And that's a really great gift that the industry gave me.
Speaker: So throughout that shooting towards the end, I would kind of bounce from contract to contract to contract, which was really rare when I was shooting.
Speaker: Like most people didn't have contracts.
Speaker: It was just freelance work, but that made me feel comfortable.
Speaker: I knew exactly who I was working with, how many scenes I was doing.
Speaker: It just provided that security that I never had, you know, growing up.
Speaker: So I ended up unfortunately having a lot of bad things.
Speaker: I just guess just bad actors, bad directors, bad people that were like, quote, managing me and pushing my boundaries, not respecting my autonomy or what I was okay with, just constantly really pushing that envelope.
Speaker: And finally, I was like, if they're doing this to me, they're definitely doing it to a small name girl that has no outlet.
Speaker: And this is fucked up.
Speaker: So I went to Twitter and was totally transparent.
Speaker: This is what the company is doing.
Speaker: I showed up to a set and they tried to get me to do X, Y, Z. That's not on my yes list.
Speaker: Haven't even discussed within my boundaries or price or anything like that.
Speaker: And I ended up getting fired 48 hours after.
Speaker: So I was fired and blacklisted.
Speaker: And the industry is basically one big monopoly.
Speaker: There's a couple small, successful production studios, but it's pretty much one company.
Speaker: And I couldn't work.
Speaker: So I was on everyone's untouchable list because no one wanted to be on bad terms with this company.
Speaker: So I was like, well...
Speaker: i don't know like i've had my panic how my i was the main breadwinner how am i going to support you know the house all of the our bills all of these things and um my husband's like why don't you just do it yourself like start your own production company and i was terrified so he's like a natural entrepreneur loves risk loves a challenge loves to build i surprisingly am very risk averse
Speaker: So which sounds counterintuitive given my career choice, but I just like a certain thing and predictability.
Speaker: And I took his lead and I started a production company.
Speaker: It was really successful.
Speaker: I ended up making way more than while I was in the industry and it just showed me I had no idea what my value was.
Speaker: And your production company was within a space of the adult entertainment?
Speaker: Adult, yeah.
Speaker: Oh, okay.
Speaker: Got it.
Speaker: yeah and it was crushing it like i was so happy with the scenes i liked the control it was i was like why haven't i not been doing this this whole time and even with that success i feel i still feel like i didn't have that sense of fulfillment like something was missing and i felt the longer i was in that industry the more i was fighting that narrative that i was there by default that i was there because i was broke or because i had been on drugs or because my dad left or
Speaker: all of these stereotypes and it was constant and I still am constantly fighting stereotypes.
Speaker: And I was like, I don't know how I can really combat this.
Speaker: COVID happened.
Speaker: So no one was working.
Speaker: And my husband again, I mean, he's my biggest supporters like you need to do podcasts.
Speaker: I'm like, I'm not ready.
Speaker: I'm not terrified.
Speaker: Everyone is going to think I'm stupid.
Speaker: what value do I have that someone else isn't bringing to the table?
Speaker: So for the first few episodes, he actually sat next to me and would talk to me and I'd have a guest on.
Speaker: He would help me gain my confidence.
Speaker: And then by the end of it, he's like, spread your wings, little bird.
Speaker: I'm out of here.
Speaker: But yeah, I think it started as a pet project just to showcase that I'm a real person, to introduce Candace and not Eva and to say, this is a character, right?
Speaker: She only exists in one very specific space.
Speaker: And then Candace is the one that
Speaker: You know, she works out.
Speaker: She has a husband.
Speaker: She has a family.
Speaker: She has thoughts and dreams and aspirations.
Speaker: And she contributes back to her community.
Speaker: All of these things just to showcase the humanity and hopefully having a trickle down effect of that.
Speaker: Shouts out to your husband, you know, big ups.
Speaker: No, seriously, I think, you know, relationships.
Speaker: You know, there's a cliche relationships around the world, but the relationship you have within your world determines your world, right?
Speaker: Good, bad, or indifferent, he supported you unconditionally.
Speaker: He was willing to stand the test of time to be with the person he loves and care about.
Speaker: And you guys have been successful.
Speaker: Congratulations.
Speaker: Doesn't matter what the connotation of the space you guys were in.
Speaker: You guys were in a committed, you know, relationship that you guys had agreements and you helped each other.
Speaker: That's what it's about.
Speaker: I was telling a friend, you know, not too long ago, I said, listen, in the world, everybody has opinions.
Speaker: Everybody has something to say.
Speaker: People are going to always think and feel.
Speaker: But no one's in the situation you're in.
Speaker: you get to decide what that relationship is.
Speaker: You get to decide what the perspective is and the boundaries are.
Speaker: So don't allow the outside forces to determine what's going on inside of your world.
Speaker: You know, I can be in an adult entertainment.
Speaker: I can have my own production company and I can do travel candidates and I can be into spirituality and be a mom and be a wife.
Speaker: I can do it all.
Speaker: The thing that's coming up for me right now for you is, you know how when you see those videos when people get older, I woulda, coulda, shoulda, I feel like you're gonna be the person
Speaker: This is like, man, I'm really happy that I did everything that I wanted to do or I felt compelled to do.
Speaker: And I have no regrets because I've learned, I've grown and I discovered a different person every time.
Speaker: And you can teach your kids, you know, you can have those conversations with them and people that's coming up behind you.
Speaker: And I think that's what life is about.
Speaker: Life is not about doing what the crowd wants you to do or what your family wants to do.
Speaker: It's really about living out your passion that's in your heart, that's in your core
Speaker: Doesn't matter what the circumstances, you did everything you were supposed to do to get where you're at.
Speaker: And I think that's a success.
Speaker: That's amazing.
Speaker: That's phenomenal.
Speaker: And I think people in your shoes need to be celebrated and need to be acknowledged for who you are, not for what you do.
Speaker: Because what you do is not who you are.
Speaker: Absolutely.
Speaker: And that's what it's about here at Bigger Talks.
Speaker: It's like we want to have a bigger conversation around not what we see, but what's the truth, right?
Speaker: The truth was you had your upbringing, you had some adversity, you had some challenges.
Speaker: Those challenges change you to be better and to be in a space that you are today.
Speaker: And you have the podcast, Chattanooga Candace, and you're a free thinker.
Speaker: I love that.
Speaker: You know, free thinking.
Speaker: Let's really think.
Speaker: What does that really mean from your perspective?
Speaker: I know what it means from my paradigm, but what is a free thinker and how does that person think?
Speaker: So for me, the way that I interpret free thinking is that you've really sat down with a lot of the cornerstone ideas that you were raised with, ones that you just think are inherently true and really peel it back and peel it back and peel it back and understand what
Speaker: where that first got placed in your mind.
Speaker: Do you align with it?
Speaker: Because you might a lot of it.
Speaker: You might once you get down there, you're like, yeah, that makes sense for me.
Speaker: That makes sense for me.
Speaker: But the beautiful thing is you can be like, well, actually, that one does it and remove it and replace it with something that's more authentic to you.
Speaker: So it's not just a mass adoption of ideas, I guess, you know, to simplify it.
Speaker: And it's not to do things that are easy.
Speaker: It's to do things that you know are right and to stand up, to use your voice, to think of things with nuance, not to accept narratives from one side or the other, but to see that there's probably a lot to unpack in the middle.
Speaker: And to, I guess, not let your emotions get the better of you to be able to separate the emotions from the logical thinking.
Speaker: What's your interpretation?
Speaker: Yeah, so I mean, I was just on a, I did an interview yesterday here in LA and I'm at a point
Speaker: in my life where I'm evolving, I had an ego death like last weekend, right?
Speaker: I was crying, I was just shedding, I was just letting go a lot of old stuff.
Speaker: I'm in this whole new space.
Speaker: And I said, you know, everybody picks a side, right?
Speaker: You know, growing up in inner city of Baltimore, that's a side.
Speaker: Living in LA for 12 years, that's a side.
Speaker: You know, training and coaching wealthy people, that's a side.
Speaker: Being on TV, that's a side.
Speaker: So in all these worlds that I'm in, I'm playing all sides, but I try to protect everybody, right?
Speaker: So I have perception, perspectives, ideology from all these sides.
Speaker: And I realized like, hold on, what does Eric want?
Speaker: What matters to me?
Speaker: And as a kid, you know, a lot of people like, oh, you're just too positive.
Speaker: How are you so positive?
Speaker: You're just not real.
Speaker: I say, listen, that's your perspective.
Speaker: I don't live in that paradigm.
Speaker: I don't have to believe that.
Speaker: And I
Speaker: The free thinking is being your most authentic self no matter what side of it.
Speaker: This could be the classiest high profile person and the person that's from, I'm gonna be me through in and throughout.
Speaker: Take it or leave it.
Speaker: And for people to stand on what they believe.
Speaker: I believe in doing what you feel in your soul and your gut.
Speaker: It doesn't matter what people think because at the end of the day, when we go home and we go to sleep, we go to sleep with thyself.
Speaker: We go to sleep with ourselves and whoever is in our space.
Speaker: But I can't be you, you can't be me and no one can be you more than you.
Speaker: So I tell people, try your best to be your best, to know who you are so you can live your best life.
Speaker: Not that it's gonna be easy, not that you're not gonna have challenges, but we gotta live from a loving space, from the heart chakra, right?
Speaker: From what's deep in your heart.
Speaker: And I have three sisters and I'm always about understanding like women
Speaker: deserve to be empowered.
Speaker: Women deserve to have a voice.
Speaker: They deserve to be heard and be seen and felt.
Speaker: But because of history, a lot of that has been suppressed, you know, as I've gotten older and got more information, like, oh no, we're not doing that.
Speaker: You're not gonna talk to her like that.
Speaker: No, she can do that.
Speaker: Who are you to say that?
Speaker: And I think a free thinking is being free of what anyone thinks about what you believe in and coming from that perspective.
Speaker: Because when lose a draw, you've got to love you and you've got to be on your team.
Speaker: And my picking sides and because I'm the only one in this space.
Speaker: Right.
Speaker: There is no blueprint.
Speaker: I'm creating the first blueprint for myself and the people behind me.
Speaker: So I tell people, there's a book, Think and Grow Rich, and it says, a chapter says, follow your own counsel.
Speaker: Follow that and see where it gets you.
Speaker: Listen to your intuition.
Speaker: And I just really appreciate people who think outside the box because I like to think about the thinking.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: You know?
Speaker: 100%.
Speaker: That book's Napoleon Hill, right?
Speaker: Yes, Napoleon Hill.
Speaker: Have you read or listened to Outwitting the Devil?
Speaker: I haven't, but I hear great.
Speaker: So I need to get the audio book.
Speaker: Get the audio book.
Speaker: It's one of the ones that you have to do the audio book because they narrate the devil's voice and it is incredibly convincing.
Speaker: I think it's the number one book everyone should read.
Speaker: By the way, what sign are you?
Speaker: gemini oh wow yeah thinkers witty curious are you into like um numerology human design oh my gosh love numerology i don't know if you know who andrew gablick is but he owns uh teledipity this is not a sponsor or anything i just truly believe in this man and i think he's the best in the game so if you or your listeners are into it it's teledipity.com you will never get a more accurate reading you just won't
Speaker: It's insane.
Speaker: I've been studying it for years.
Speaker: I know my soul desire number.
Speaker: I know my expression number, my maturity number, my pinnacle number.
Speaker: You know, I know my moon, my rising, my Mars, my Venus.
Speaker: Like literally I'm probably the most curious person there is because I want to get to the root.
Speaker: of the tree i don't want to look at the tree like oh that's a nice tree like no who are you let's take the fame away let's take the money let's take all these things off who are you because i think that's what a real power is that's what a real love that's what a real person is and numerology has really in astrology has really changed my outlook not only on life but like who i'm in this world and why i have a podcast and why i'm
Speaker: It was to talk to people like you and this happening.
Speaker: Because like I said, I feel like my life has been a movie.
Speaker: I feel like my life chose me.
Speaker: I never came to LA like, oh, I want to be on TV.
Speaker: I want to do these.
Speaker: It's like,
Speaker: I just wanna be great.
Speaker: I thought I was gonna be a basketball player, you know, like that didn't work.
Speaker: So I had to go pro in life.
Speaker: And you know, I've read so many books and I think information, people listening changes situations.
Speaker: And I think it's important for people to get knowledge and educate themselves.
Speaker: But that's how I got far.
Speaker: I mean, I went to college before and graduated, but it didn't mean anything.
Speaker: It didn't prepare me for the real world.
Speaker: I just happened to like Think and Grow Rich, As a Man Think Of, and you know, Seat of the Soul, all these books.
Speaker: Are you currently reading anything right now?
Speaker: Do you meditate?
Speaker: Do you do cold showers, cold plunges?
Speaker: What is Candace outside of the businesswoman, the wife, the entrepreneur?
Speaker: What is some life hacks or some things you do to stimulate your mind or heal or enhance your vibration?
Speaker: I think you always need to be learning.
Speaker: So however, that whatever that modality is for you, some people readings very difficult.
Speaker: So they do audio books or they do podcasts or educational YouTube videos.
Speaker: You know, there is no judgment.
Speaker: Just find something that's feeding your mind.
Speaker: I love books.
Speaker: So right now I'm reading The Myth of Normal by Gabor Mate and his son Daniel Mate.
Speaker: And I'm finishing Becoming Superhuman by Joe Dispenza.
Speaker: So I'm kind of toggling.
Speaker: I love Joe Dispenza.
Speaker: So I'm toggling between those two.
Speaker: And then so I can't do cold therapy right now because I'm breastfeeding and then that can kind of ruin your milk supply.
Speaker: But I do have an infrared sauna, so I try to do that a couple times a week.
Speaker: Huge, huge fan of infrared.
Speaker: I think there's something so healing.
Speaker: It's amazing.
Speaker: Obviously, making sure that you're trying to eat as clean as you can.
Speaker: So I have like my athletic greens that I take and then my multivitamins.
Speaker: I like Thorn is a really good brand.
Speaker: There was something I was going to add.
Speaker: You asked about meditation.
Speaker: I'm actually horrible at it, but I've been doing Tai Chi in the morning, which I love.
Speaker: And then there's this app called Othership and it's all breathing exercises and they're amazing.
Speaker: So for people like me who want to move and they're like, I can't sit still.
Speaker: They have walking meditations.
Speaker: They have ones that help you stretch.
Speaker: They've got stuff for couples, stuff for manifestation.
Speaker: It gets really, really cool and kind of esoteric in there.
Speaker: So I really appreciate that.
Speaker: Oh, there was something I wanted to add to that.
Speaker: Maybe it'll come to me later.
Speaker: Yeah, we said meditation, cold showers, cold plunges.
Speaker: We talked about human design.
Speaker: What's your life path number, by the way?
Speaker: Oh my gosh, I should know this.
Speaker: So I actually just have it all integrated into my phone.
Speaker: So he makes custom calendars for you.
Speaker: And it's just in my calendar.
Speaker: I think I'm a five.
Speaker: Okay.
Speaker: Or I'm on.
Speaker: No, I'm on my year five right now.
Speaker: When's your birthday?
Speaker: May 29th, 89.
Speaker: So five is five to nine.
Speaker: So two and nine is 11.
Speaker: One and two, two and five is seven and seven.
Speaker: So one and nine is 10.
Speaker: Ten and eight is 18.
Speaker: 18 and 10 is 28 take away one is 27 to 27 is not so nine and seven 10 11 12 15 15 16.
Speaker: You might be a life past seven.
Speaker: Maybe they can in a, uh,
Speaker: I can pull it up really quick, actually.
Speaker: Because Life Path 7s, because I've studied this, they're very deep.
Speaker: They seek the truth.
Speaker: They're all about proof seekers.
Speaker: And actually, 2023 is a seven year.
Speaker: So if you've noticed, you watch social media, you watch- I'm a seven.
Speaker: Right, you're a seven.
Speaker: So you're all about knowledge.
Speaker: You're all about information.
Speaker: And sevens, their life can be challenging internally.
Speaker: They go through a lot of different things.
Speaker: But like this year, 2023 equals seven.
Speaker: Anything that's been hidden in the dark comes to the light.
Speaker: If you see what a lot of celebrities, a lot of things are coming up, people being exposed.
Speaker: So everybody's going through some type of like internal battle and I'm big on like spiritual currency because I've been realizing living in LA with all types of people and just people in general.
Speaker: I've been spiritual my entire life that
Speaker: People have money, people have fame, they have success, but they're lacking a depth of their spiritual bank account.
Speaker: And it's not like, oh, religious, godly, just about understanding thyself, higher self, being attuned to their spirit, their emotions, their gut instinct, having information like numerology, astrology.
Speaker: Because you need information to kind of understand what you're feeling.
Speaker: And I think you said something earlier about I'm big on EQ, emotional intelligence.
Speaker: Because that's a strong suit to have as a trait in awareness to kind of scale or get through some of your toughest moments.
Speaker: But sevens are, they're truth seekers, so.
Speaker: I remembered my last thing that I thought was really crucial.
Speaker: So, and it goes into spirituality.
Speaker: I think everyone needs some kind of mentor.
Speaker: So whether it's a business coach right now, I'm working with, he's kind of my spiritual teacher.
Speaker: So his name is Carlos Waters and he,
Speaker: I mean, he's amazing.
Speaker: He's just this incredible mystic.
Speaker: And I've only just begun and I'm already blown away.
Speaker: So I think it's really important to have somebody not necessarily that becomes your guru or your God, right?
Speaker: Everyone's human.
Speaker: So to make sure that you always keep that in mind, but just someone to kind of challenge you and bring that nuance and kind of shepherd you into certain paths.
Speaker: Yeah, and I think life is perspective.
Speaker: You know, being in so many different rooms and so many different entities, energies, being in all types of worlds myself, I realize it's all perspective.
Speaker: Because, you know, Dr. Wayne Dyer says,
Speaker: If we change the way we look at things, the things we look at change.
Speaker: But that's a matter of perspective.
Speaker: If I only grow up in South Carolina, North Carolina, and I stay there my entire life, it's only so much I know about myself and the world at large.
Speaker: So I always tell people, be curious and to tap into their inner being.
Speaker: Let's talk about psychedelics.
Speaker: What is that all about?
Speaker: Like, what is that?
Speaker: Like, because people have asked me over time, like, are you an asshole?
Speaker: Are you a mushrooms?
Speaker: And I didn't know what they were asking.
Speaker: I'm like, huh?
Speaker: And I was like, no, never mind.
Speaker: What are they talking about?
Speaker: So I know a little bit, but I don't know enough to share with the audience.
Speaker: So can you kind of like elaborate on psychedelics and what it means to you and how did you get into it?
Speaker: Sure.
Speaker: So I think right now a lot of people are focused on healing, like healing trauma, healing old wounds, trying to kind of crack that outer shell that's hiding who we truly are.
Speaker: And I think a lot of that is a defense mechanism, you know, just the way we were parented in general.
Speaker: Our parents did not have nearly as much empathy and compassion as the generation following.
Speaker: And I'm sure that's going to kind of always kind of cascade down, right?
Speaker: Hopefully our kids are always doing better than we are.
Speaker: But we do have a lot of healing to do.
Speaker: I mean, especially millennials, we've been through a ton in our life.
Speaker: 9-11, a pandemic, parents that kind of had us be feral children and raise ourselves.
Speaker: There's just been a lot.
Speaker: We've had to deal with social media when we didn't have it before.
Speaker: And kind of that challenges a lot of our identity and how our self-worth is portrayed.
Speaker: So I think psychedelics, we're understanding the healing modality of it.
Speaker: And it's not like a drug that we've been told our whole life.
Speaker: We had these campaigns that were paid for by big alcohol, ironically, that were like, this is your brain on drugs.
Speaker: And it would be a frying egg or a girl melting into a recliner.
Speaker: And you're like, I'm never doing that.
Speaker: That's horrible.
Speaker: Or this idea that only people that are homeless are doing drugs.
Speaker: It's always the failures.
Speaker: And you're like, no, we're now learning that this was paid for by Harvard and they were researching it there.
Speaker: The maps now at Johns Hopkins is showing insanely promising work when it comes to depression, PTSD, addiction, all sorts of ailments.
Speaker: And they're doing it obviously in a very tight container.
Speaker: But these modalities have been used by ancient tribes forever.
Speaker: and now we're just kind of commercializing and modernizing them so i think we're rediscovering ancient knowledge i think it's very careful you have to be very careful as to who is facilitating who's leading and holding the space who's with you while you do it why are you doing it what's your intention behind it
Speaker: I'm not a fan of just doing it recreationally and going to a party.
Speaker: I think that that's not really exactly how it's meant to be used.
Speaker: I think that these are very powerful tools and you don't want to misuse them just like anything else.
Speaker: It's a technology.
Speaker: So depending on how you use it, it could be healing or it could be hurtful.
Speaker: So for me, again, this is like husband led because I am super risk averse and he loves anything that's new and challenges him.
Speaker: I have never done.
Speaker: He's an Aries.
Speaker: Oh, yeah.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: We're like soul soulmates on pretty much every.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: He's.
Speaker: And then if you go into Easter and I'm a snake and he's a rat and it's just like we just match.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: I'm a dragon.
Speaker: That makes sense.
Speaker: Okay, my mom, my mom's actually a dragon.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: But yeah, so he he started down that path a little bit before me.
Speaker: And I was super nervous.
Speaker: I had never done drugs, you know, quote, drugs or plant medicine.
Speaker: My dad was a cop.
Speaker: So the little that he was in my life, it was very much instilled that drugs are terrible and only criminals do them and you can die.
Speaker: That's pretty much my that was my truth.
Speaker: So, I saw what it did for my husband and he had done a couple psilocybin journeys and how profound they were for him.
Speaker: And I just trust him more thoroughly than anything else in this world.
Speaker: So, I was having trouble getting pregnant and as I mentioned earlier in the podcast, I'd been told I was infertile.
Speaker: Being a mom just felt like that was the thing I was supposed to do on this earth.
Speaker: I was going to do everything I could to try to to get pregnant.
Speaker: And I was kind of leaning into spirituality and reading and Joe Dispenza and understanding that certain things can really can store in your body.
Speaker: Traumas can store in your body.
Speaker: And psilocybin is a great tool to release those traumas.
Speaker: So, um, we did, I did a mushroom journey all by myself with my, with our shaman.
Speaker: So we have a shaman.
Speaker: Um, it was incredible.
Speaker: I had a lot, so my experience wasn't really visual.
Speaker: It was more physical.
Speaker: So I had a lot of tremors.
Speaker: So a lot of physical release that way.
Speaker: And I was pregnant two weeks later.
Speaker: So, and my doctor was like, I don't understand how I don't understand your hormones.
Speaker: Aren't there, aren't there to support a pregnancy.
Speaker: I don't understand how you're pregnant.
Speaker: On fertility.
Speaker: Cause I feel like that's still probably falls into the mystical space.
Speaker: I don't like that's, I mean, that's even a brand that can reach out that you can support or endorse and maybe create your own, but that's a win.
Speaker: I mean, think if certain women are told, they can't have kids and they,
Speaker: have a great shaman lead them and they take a few mushrooms and then they have kids.
Speaker: So not that that's
Speaker: recommend it but I'm just saying that's a breakthrough that's a story that's a I've never heard that it's anecdotal for sure so I mean for me for me I don't believe that was a coincidence and I legitimately had my doctor saying I don't know how you're pregnant right now but congratulations and that was the only thing that I had really done you know that's a miracle right there that's yeah so I mean and then you have people that are you know hosting these events in their house in San Francisco and they're doing it every other week and they've done 13 ayahuasca trips in two years and
Speaker: That's not good.
Speaker: I think that that's someone who's trying to find a way to be unique or someone who wants to perpetually be in a state of healing and not actually heal.
Speaker: So again, it comes down to the user and comes down to why and intention.
Speaker: But I think if you do your own research, Michael Pollan's How to Change Your Mind is an incredible...
Speaker: Yeah, like get into that, watch the series, read the book and do your own research and see if it's for you.
Speaker: Look at the work that MAPS is doing.
Speaker: You'll see that it's not this thing that we've stigmatized and there's actually, it's just crazy to me that we take something like psilocybin and say that you're a horrible person if you do it and you're a druggie, but then opioids are illegal and totally ruin people's lives.
Speaker: So you just have to like look at the facts and take your emotion.
Speaker: And all of that propaganda that's kind of been put on us since we were little and make your decision for yourself.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: And it's powerful that you say that because I've always been curious.
Speaker: I'm a person like, what's the intentions behind something?
Speaker: What's the purpose?
Speaker: What's the outcome?
Speaker: What's the big picture?
Speaker: Like, why are we doing this?
Speaker: And for what reason?
Speaker: Even times in life, I feel like life can be assimilations.
Speaker: Things reoccurring.
Speaker: What are we here to do?
Speaker: I know what I want to do, but what's the big picture?
Speaker: I was talking to a friend.
Speaker: I'm like, how's it all these people have these ceremonies, but they're having these experiences and supposedly they're healing, but their life is not changing.
Speaker: Like if your life is not, I'm not saying maybe it's not supposed to change, but I'm into like, if I'm going to do something, it's for evolution of my soul of who I am in this lifetime, I would think.
Speaker: But I just seem like people doing it, but I don't really see no change in their life.
Speaker: So I'm glad you kind of like made that, you know, certain on like to do it for the right reason, to kind of understand it.
Speaker: There's a thing they say, we know things we don't understand.
Speaker: And all out getting, you know, Proverbs 4, 7 says, and all you're getting, get understanding.
Speaker: So I'm always trying to understand things I know or don't know.
Speaker: But I just think it's powerful for someone to, you know, share that information like yourself and moving forward for like in your life and in your career, like what's your intentions and what is the big picture for Candace and how does she see herself three to five years from now?
Speaker: Like, do you, I see you on panels.
Speaker: I see you writing a bestseller book.
Speaker: I don't know if you have one, but I just see the evolution of, you know, you like, what do you like?
Speaker: What does that look like for you?
Speaker: Oh, thank you so much.
Speaker: That's very kind.
Speaker: No book as of now.
Speaker: I love writing, so maybe one day.
Speaker: It's funny you say panel.
Speaker: I'm doing my very first one the first week of March in Miami.
Speaker: So thank you.
Speaker: I'm super nervous.
Speaker: It's a pretty big audience, but the whole theme of the panel is actually the evolution of a person.
Speaker: So you're tapped into something right now because you just said all of that.
Speaker: So maybe I do have a book and I don't know it yet.
Speaker: Yeah, I mean, I pick up on people's, you know, spirits.
Speaker: So I was like, it's some things just come through me.
Speaker: But that's what I see.
Speaker: Yeah, that's so interesting.
Speaker: So I, I'm very nervous to do live public speaking.
Speaker: So hopefully I do well.
Speaker: And
Speaker: I could definitely see panels for sure because it intrigues me.
Speaker: And I think talking about complex topics like sexuality and spirituality really get me going.
Speaker: I love that because it challenges so many of our core beliefs.
Speaker: Hopefully the podcast does really well and then that can kind of stem off into other things like really creating a community I think is really important to me.
Speaker: What is the synopsis of your podcast?
Speaker: I know it's chatting with Candice.
Speaker: What is it?
Speaker: Wide open?
Speaker: Is it intentional?
Speaker: Is it a niche?
Speaker: Like, what is it?
Speaker: it's following my curiosity so i'll find a topic or a person and dive super deep into that so pretty much all of february is on the divine feminine healing root chakra it's i got super mystical out of nowhere but i'm just diving and all of these people are kind of coming onto the podcast that i didn't think i was going to get so it's very serendipitous so i just try to lead with that intuition um and again it's like challenging conversations like i had
Speaker: Violana Marcus on recently.
Speaker: It's not out yet, but we just recorded.
Speaker: So we are talking about really owning that sexual goddess energy, polyamory, how you can be married and married, but still have an atypical commitment.
Speaker: It just it challenges a lot and people are going to probably get a little bit flustered.
Speaker: We talk about women and their
Speaker: the allocation of sexuality, like you're allowed to own your pleasure and that that's still a hot button top topic.
Speaker: So yeah, it's just it will see where it goes.
Speaker: I feel like the podcast kind of has a life of its own.
Speaker: So hopefully that just continues to grow.
Speaker: And like I said, creates a community behind it where it can kind of constantly evolve with me.
Speaker: But yeah, that's that's where I'm at right now.
Speaker: Just just growing and learning.
Speaker: And I think it's beautiful because I feel that you're in total alignment of what you're supposed to be doing.
Speaker: And I just want to give you some acknowledgement for, you know, congratulations on everything you're embracing that is uncomfortable.
Speaker: When it comes to speaking, the trick is, because I've spoken on a few panels in front of people, is when you're nervous, the best way to kind of like master, not master, kind of like conquer the fears, is to tell yourself you're excited before.
Speaker: I got that from Mel Robbins, but what I learned myself is really...
Speaker: saying that like listen guys this is my first panel discussion i'm so nervous i'm so afraid because when you acknowledge the emotion or the energy or the feelings it doesn't take over you you just kind of like release it into the ether and then maybe you can say i'm here you know and then you move from there because you're that's your authentic self look i'm nervous i'm i'm very but thank you guys for showing up
Speaker: Let's talk.
Speaker: So I just think, you know, you're a trendsetter for a lot of different things.
Speaker: And like I said, I just see you scaling and some for women more so to empower them to be their best self in whatever capacity you choose.
Speaker: But you should, I just think you should be proud of yourself on the life you're living.
Speaker: And I think it's important for you to be celebrated and for people to know about you outside of adult entertainment, because that's something you did, but that's not who you are.
Speaker: Mm hmm.
Speaker: No, I appreciate you.
Speaker: Thank you.
Speaker: I think it's important.
Speaker: So I always have a question, you know, towards the end.
Speaker: That's my guess sometimes if we get to it.
Speaker: So there's two questions.
Speaker: The one question is what's working for you.
Speaker: And number two is, what's your greatest challenge right now?
Speaker: So what's working for me is really tapping into what's going on in my body.
Speaker: I feel like that's what's led me to that specific topic that I've been tackling for February.
Speaker: And that has aligned me with incredible guests that I don't think necessarily would have come to me because they came to me.
Speaker: It wasn't like I sought them out.
Speaker: They were like, no, I want to be a guest on the podcast.
Speaker: I'm like, holy shit, I didn't
Speaker: How do you know about my podcast?
Speaker: So I just had my second baby and there's still some residual like flight or fight that's going on, especially in my root chakra, especially in like inside of my vagina, honestly.
Speaker: So a lot of women, you'll go to like pelvic floor rehab just to make sure how everything's healing after you have a baby.
Speaker: This happened the first time around, too, where it's just constantly contracting.
Speaker: So it's not ever in a state where I'm relaxed and open.
Speaker: And, you know, if you believe in like the divine feminine and the divine masculine, if you're constantly contracted, like that's not the feminine.
Speaker: Like you're in your masculine.
Speaker: You're ready to go.
Speaker: You're ready.
Speaker: You know what I mean?
Speaker: To conquer or fight or whatever you have to do.
Speaker: like you perceive a threat.
Speaker: So I've been really tapping into how do I learn to soften, to open, to trust, to let my husband be in the space, to really trust that he's going to protect me and I don't have to protect myself because for so long I had to protect myself.
Speaker: So what's working for me is just being radically honest with where I'm at and it's not where I thought I was as far as trust and security goes.
Speaker: And then what's challenging for me is having two babies and having a husband and also having these ambitions of growing a podcast and constantly learning and bettering myself and creating a community and having really tight rules that I put on myself for work because I don't have a boss is creating that balance.
Speaker: So that is something I'm navigating as well as understanding
Speaker: Like why do I put so much pressure on myself and what am I running away from?
Speaker: Is there something maybe I think I'm going to not show up as a mom and is that why I'm jumping so heavily into scheduling because, you know, avoidance is a huge pattern for a lot of people and just, you know, trying to figure that out and be honest with myself so I can show up and be the best wife, mom, person to myself and still not let that individuality die but also
Speaker: respect my my commitments to my family yeah and I think you know getting back to the self space and you know relaxing and regulating the nervous system but I think the word that comes up for me is trust right to trust is more the feminine side right the feminine energy uh they say the masculine is the giver and the feminine is the receiver so when you're trusting you're you're you're trusting that whatever you're supposed to receive is going to come
Speaker: to pass, like it's going to manifest.
Speaker: And coming from, you know, difficult upbringing, but having challenging moments as a child, all you know is how to survive or how to protect yourself, which I can relate to.
Speaker: And then you get to a space where you're like, okay, it's great to be in my masculine.
Speaker: How do I allow the feminine to kind of have space in life, in my life, so I can have some balance?
Speaker: Because as you know, you can overdo, overgive, overbe, and then you burn out.
Speaker: And you don't have anything for anyone.
Speaker: So I just think the fact that you're honest about it and you're aware of it is that growth, right?
Speaker: And I think everyone listening should know that.
Speaker: And I think for men, especially men, because, you know, women are, they're, they're, they're,
Speaker: getting all the power and they're developing and they're in leadership roles as they should because they deserve it.
Speaker: But I think the men, we got to step up and help the women in that space, right?
Speaker: By filling up our spiritual cup, right?
Speaker: You know, the feminine side of a man, you know, being vulnerable, being able to articulate our emotions and our feelings, you know, praying and meditating and
Speaker: building up our spiritual strength.
Speaker: So when we are with our women or our sisters or friends, family, moms, whoever, they feel that safety, right?
Speaker: Within our spirit, within our aura layer, within our vibration, they don't need to need physical matter to kind of make it make sense.
Speaker: They just, it's a knowing.
Speaker: And so I think, you know, it's,
Speaker: It's important for all people to kind of like regulate our emotions because it's easy to be triggered now because of social media.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: And everybody has an opinion.
Speaker: And sometimes their opinion doesn't matter.
Speaker: And sometimes we give people more power over our lives than they deserve because they don't even know us.
Speaker: So that's big to you for knowing that and understanding that.
Speaker: Is there anything else you want to share?
Speaker: You said you had a speech coming up.
Speaker: Where can we find you?
Speaker: Can we follow you?
Speaker: How do we engage with Candice?
Speaker: And how do we get to, you know, build with you and be part of your community?
Speaker: Well, thank you so much.
Speaker: This was incredible and you are so kind and I really, really enjoyed talking with you.
Speaker: You can find my podcast at chattingwithcandice.com and that has all of my Candice socials.
Speaker: And then my Twitter account that I'm the most active on is Fallenlovia, but you have to type it in because as of now it's shadow banned, so that one's tricky.
Speaker: But that's that's pretty much where you can find me this the panel is March 4 at the Miami Convention Center and that's with Pomp and he's kind of hosting it and the panel is the evolution of a person.
Speaker: Oh wow that's amazing congratulations and social media you said Twitter Instagram is it the same as well?
Speaker: So yeah, so the Instagram there's Eva Lovian, that's my alter ego.
Speaker: And then there's Candace Horbach.
Speaker: And then that's a lot of podcast stuff, some family stuff, some cooking stuff, some more of my day to day activities.
Speaker: And then the Eva one is more just pretty pictures.
Speaker: And then I try to throw in something philosophical or spiritual just to like add to it.
Speaker: I'm like, I know the picture is why you're here, but maybe you can read the caption and take something away or, you know, check out a book I'm reading and then inspire you to pick up a book as well.
Speaker: Get some wisdom.
Speaker: Chatting with Candice.
Speaker: Candice, this has been beautiful.
Speaker: Thank you for your time, your energy, your awareness, and the wisdom you shared today on Bigger Talks.
Speaker: I'm pretty sure people will appreciate this interview and follow you and get to know about you, the mom, entrepreneur, and everything else that you have in the life.
Speaker: So thank you once again.
Speaker: This was beautiful.
Speaker: Thank you.
