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Ifrit? I hardly know it! (King's Quest: Kingdom of Sorrow Part 3)
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Whew tough crowd. Anyway. THE END OF THE BOOK IS NIGH. We liked this one what can I say.
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You know who else has Shadowrun at home?
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My name's Kevin.
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With me as always is Phil.
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On today's show, we're finishing off King's Quest, Kingdom of Sorrow, Bart 3.
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We're finishing it off.
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But, you know, sometimes getting that bag, like, it goes
Haley Welch's Meme Coin Scandal
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too far.
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And I saw somebody post that, like, the thing with Hayley Welch.
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Do you know who Hayley Welch is?
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She is the originator of a memetic joke,
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that tore up the internet this summer called Hawk Tua.
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Oh, okay, sure.
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Okay, right, right.
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Okay, so Haley Welch, aka the Hawk Tua woman.
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I'm explaining this like I'm Raymond Holtz from Brooklyn Nine-Nine.
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Next slide, please.
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Yeah.
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Anyway, she started up a meme coin.
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Oh, my God.
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The meme coin like went up and then it crashed and people lost because that's what they do.
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People lost all their money.
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And now she's being investigated.
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because of course she is.
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Of course she is.
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It's 2020, 2024 is almost over.
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And I feel like some God of virality noticed that she was still like,
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being, she was still out there and popular.
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Yeah.
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Popular.
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And decided that someone needed to be smited.
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Right.
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It was like, wait, what the fuck are you still doing around here?
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That doesn't make sense.
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No, fuck you.
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No, no, no, no, no.
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This, this was, this is 15 minutes.
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This is no 16 minutes here.
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You try to get 20 minutes of fame straight to jail, straight to jail.
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10 minutes of fame.
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Also jail.
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Also jail.
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Yeah.
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10 minute, 20 minute.
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So, but yeah, so that's when getting your bag goes too far.
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I would say you succeed too much.
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You succeed.
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Yes.
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You succeed right into failure.
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Yes.
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Yes.
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Ask Elon Musk all about that.
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Yeah.
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I mean, he's failing up into trillionaire status, but at the same time, divorce energy off the charts.
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When you're a winner and a loser.
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It's like that scene in Mean Girls where she they're asking, what's the limit?
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Tina Fey is asking, what's the limit of this equation?
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And Lindsay Lohan's like, the limit does not exist.
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Yeah.
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The limit to the divorce energy that Elon Musk gives off does not exist.
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It doesn't exist.
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No, it's just going to keep going up forever, forever, forever.
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So that way we put the body in the marsh.
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Let's do it.
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Let's put that adorable body in that daggum old marsh.
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When I tell you to dump a body in the marsh.
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Yeah.
King's Quest: Kingdom of Sorrow - Lizard Adventures
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So when we last left off, King Graham had been slizzarded, where they take a little lizard, a slizzard, and basically it bites him and they change places in their brains.
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So Graham...
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His body is now inhabited by a lizard.
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And Graham himself is now inside the little tiny body of a lizard.
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He's eaten moths.
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And the first part of this chapter.
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And you're wearing a moth bolo tie.
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I am.
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I'm wearing my death set moth bolo tie.
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That's true.
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That's why I did it on purpose.
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That's why it's.
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Yes.
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Yes, of course.
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That's what that is.
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I think in advance.
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But they it's he's he's becoming comfortable with being a lizard, both in the sense of he's figuring out how to walk on walls and do all that shit.
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And he's also becoming like he would argue possibly a little too comfortable with being a lizard.
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He's not he's not on one hand, he's not thrilled about the number of bugs that he's eaten at this point.
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On the other hand, boy, they did taste good.
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They taste good.
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So we've got a very interesting.
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This is actually possibly my favorite part in the book because it just goes on.
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It goes on not too long.
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but a little too long about his experience as a lizard.
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And I really enjoyed it because it's, it's genuinely funny.
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Uh, uh, him, him kind of coping with being turned into this very alien thing to him.
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Um, as he's doing this, uh, we get a, this part was too long.
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We get a multi-level battle with a rat, uh, uh,
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Like, you know, the rat king from the Nutcracker.
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It's King Graham, the lizard fighting that thing.
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And it just goes on.
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And like, it just would.
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It's like one of those bosses in a video game like Ganondorf, you know, and like fucking like turns into it.
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He doesn't change, but he just pops back up like three times.
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Right.
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Graham's like throwing him off of things and throwing things at him and finally defeats him.
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I honestly don't remember how.
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It doesn't matter.
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It doesn't matter.
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It doesn't matter.
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He finds himself, however, in Dunstan's room, the giant Dunstan is asleep in a chair, basically.
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And the room is filled with imps watching and they're mocking Graham's body, which has the lizard brain.
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And the only thing you can say is I am Graham.
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I Graham.
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I Graham.
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It's it's it's an even simpler version of I am Groot.
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It's it's that.
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And so King Graham is trying to figure out by the end of this chapter what he can do to get his body back.
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That brings us to Chapter 23.
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We are.
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So the Queen of the Wood is also in this room.
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She's in a cage.
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Lizard Graham sneaks up to her and they have a discussion of like, how the hell am I going to like, I got to save you because she had basically given up hope.
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that Graham would be able to save her.
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And now she's and she doesn't feel a hell of a lot better now that this lizard guy is here because she's like, great, you're a lizard.
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That's not great.
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You're even more useless now.
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Right.
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This is this is this is worse.
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I don't know why I'm supposed to take heart here, but but he's like, fear not.
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And so.
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They're discussing this and they're watching Dunstan, who is also being mocked by Kuzku.
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Dunstan is asleep and Kuzku and the other imps are like, ah, he's a big dummy.
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Just making fun of.
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And yeah, and it becomes clear based on that, that Dunstan is not the guy in charge, that there's something wrong, that there's something wrong.
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you know, that he's being drained.
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The implication that they figure is, is that the figure in light from before they assume it's a wizard.
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Right.
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He is being drained by those lights.
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He's basically being used as a battery.
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And Dunstan probably is, too, which is why he keeps falling asleep.
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Um, so he's figuring out, okay, these people are under some sort of magic that, uh, that, that Dunstan, uh, not Dunstan that, uh, Kuzgu has.
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Right.
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So we've got to find a way to break that spell and we're golden.
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Um,
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And in one of the rudest moves that the queen of the forest possibly did, she basically implies something like, well, I know how you can possibly help me.
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He's like, how?
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And she just flicks him, just flicks him across the room.
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I love it.
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It's like the description of it is like Graham flies across the room and he's heading towards objects that he just has no sense of scale for.
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Yes.
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Yes.
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And chapter 24 opens with it.
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It's like a Beavis and Butthead cartoon or something where Graham is like a Ren Stimpy cartoon where he's like flying through the air and you can just see his skin flapping around him screaming because he's basically going.
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And they explain they're like, you know, you
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you know, stature wise, he is crossing a very, very long gap.
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And so he's basically shitting himself over the, the, the throw that he has experienced.
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So he finds, he basically lands on Dunstan and Dunstan, the, the, the key for, for the, for the locked cage is on a thread.
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It's not,
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It wasn't very clear.
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It was like it's hanging from a thread or something like that above Dunstan.
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And so he's trying to figure out a way like it's he tries to find where it's attached to at one end.
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And there's no luck with that.
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And he's trying a bunch of things.
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And finally, and he kind of just saws through it with his teeth and the key falls and lands in Dunstan's beard.
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So now he's got to climb.
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So this tiny lizard, already pretty tiny, is on a giant.
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So he's in this forest of prickly beard hairs, essentially looking for this key.
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That gives you an idea about the scale.
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Yeah.
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Um,
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Eventually he's found by the imps.
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They notice him and he crawls and climbs to the ceiling.
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He climbs and he's upside down.
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This is new for him.
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So he falls, he climbs over the ceiling and drops and lands on his body, the body with the lizard brain in it.
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And he's trying that he just he's just like, I don't know how the fuck I'm supposed to do this.
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He has no idea.
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And then in the most random thing ever,
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which is honestly random enough that I would attribute it to moon logic in an adventure game.
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He remembers that right before they switched brains, his nose hurt.
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He had a pain in his nose.
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And she goes, okay.
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So he bites the shit out of Graham's nose.
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And wouldn't you know it?
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They swap back.
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That's that's the funny button.
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That's the that's what did it.
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And that's that's that's how it worked.
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So now he he has switched places.
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And but instead of freaking out and just starting to, you know, drop kick imps across the room, he just stands still.
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And one of them addresses him and he looks at it and says, I Graham.
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So clearly just let's keep up the ruse.
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Very clever.
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Yeah.
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He keeps up the ruse.
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He's going to, he's going to just like, I'm going to, I'm still this lizard.
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Don't worry about it.
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Yeah.
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Clever stuff.
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Liked it.
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So, and that's the end of that chapter.
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We come to the next chapter.
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And hold on.
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Where did it go?
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Here we go.
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So they decide that they have nothing left to do with this Graham.
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So they just kind of send him off to be, I guess, butchered and prepared in the kitchen for dinner.
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He is going to be food.
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Right.
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So he's he's escorted there by one imp.
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And then the other imp, that cook imp that he met before, I think in our in our first section of this book, comes in and he just grabs a frying pan and slams it into the face of the one imp and says, and then you're going to get the same the and scares him off.
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Basically, he's
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He's like, I don't want to kill you.
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Get the hell out of here.
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Right.
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So that and by the way, no more eating humans.
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No more of that shit.
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I don't want to hear about any of that anymore.
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Yeah.
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Knock it off.
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Yeah.
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Stop it.
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Eat a fucking corn or something.
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Corn is delicious.
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There's so much of it.
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It's the most beautiful thing.
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Ever been to Nebraska?
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Yeah, we have too much of it.
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In fact, it's a whole it's a whole thing.
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But so basically, the next step of the book is it made me think of this story my grandpa told me once he was a hunter.
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And I do not know if this is true, because Papa was a bookman.
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brilliant liar, one of the most prolific and awe inspiring liars in the Deep South.
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And if you've been to the Deep South, you know that's pretty impressive.
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And he would just lie and tell these amazing stories.
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And he claimed that when you're turkey hunting, that turkeys are so stupid that they walk in a line.
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And as long as you shoot the one at the end of the line, the others
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further in front of him won't notice and they won't freak out.
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Right.
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So you can bag like half a dozen turkeys if you remember to shoot the last ones and work your way up.
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Right.
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Graham essentially turkey hunts the imps.
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He basically...
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kind of hides with the frying pan with a skillet and Cusco keeps sending more imps in to say what the fuck is going on.
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And every time they come in, crang, crang, and he's just like building up this pile of unconscious imps and it's fucking hilarious.
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It's so good.
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I laughed my ass off.
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I thought this was great.
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Is it, is the turkey?
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So that turkey hunting thing, do you, does that have anything to do with like the pecking order?
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I think the implication is meant to be, and this is true.
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Turkeys are idiots.
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Turkeys are the stupidest animals.
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And I read a book called Animal Vegetable Miracle, and it's all about raising your own food.
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And it was part of what really got me into homesteading.
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And my sister recommended it, and she's big into that.
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And she raised turkeys.
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There's a part of it in the book where they bought turkeys.
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turkeys as meat birds.
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And, and the author Barbara Kingsolver is talking about how these, these, these adorable baby turkeys, these little chicks.
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And she goes, Oh no, I fucked up.
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I can't do this.
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Right.
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I can't do this.
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They're so cute.
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And she's like, six months later, I was ready to kill them.
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Okay.
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because they're obnoxious, stupid, asshole animals that will charge you for no reason.
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They're just idiots.
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And they see themselves in a reflection, and they try to fight themselves, and they can hurt themselves that way.
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They're just dumb animals.
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And so I think the implication is that –
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They just don't look around.
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They're just not paying attention.
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I think there was also a myth that if a turkey looks up when it's raining, it will drown.
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It's an old Southern wives tale I've heard.
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You guys just said just how dumb they are.
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They're just dumb.
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I think they could drown standing in the rain.
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Exactly.
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Exactly.
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Light misting could take them out if they get interested in the clouds.
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But they do have they do have some some wicked talents.
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They do.
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Oh, yeah.
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There I helped call the most recent one that they did.
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And you pick these legs up and they are no joke.
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They are.
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They are big damn animals, especially the toms.
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And it's messy work.
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That'll be that'll be my that'll be my follow up YouTube channel.
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And I when I start getting into homesteading more, more in depth and it'll start out like really optimistic and about halfway through, I'm like, I don't know what I'm doing, man.
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It's going to be a lot of fun.
00:18:14
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I recommend you.
00:18:14
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And then it becomes a found footage horror.
00:18:18
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Yeah, that's exactly it.
00:18:19
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And people argue over whether it's real or not.
00:18:22
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Like, no, he was a horror writer.
00:18:24
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That's not real.
00:18:26
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It's not real.
00:18:27
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No, but what's important is that I'm never seen again.
00:18:29
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That's the most important thing.
00:18:30
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I think we I am very aware that that's why that's how you want to go out.
00:18:36
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The end of your story needs to be.
00:18:38
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And he was never seen again.
00:18:40
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It has to be.
00:18:41
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It's just better.
00:18:42
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It's just better.
00:18:44
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I'm trying to convince my wife of this fact.
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She does not agree.
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And then she looks at me and puts her hands on my shoulder and says, please stop talking about you dying.
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And I'm like, okay.
00:18:55
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Fine.
00:18:56
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Fine.
00:18:58
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I'm sorry.
00:19:00
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But I'm not dying.
00:19:01
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I'm just disappearing.
00:19:02
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I just disappeared.
00:19:03
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Yeah, exactly.
00:19:04
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That's the part.
00:19:04
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My legend lives on.
00:19:08
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Am I actually dead or did I join the fairy folk in the forest?
00:19:15
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It's like some say he's still in the Appalachians to this day.
00:19:19
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Weeping hysterically.
00:19:23
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Sometimes you could see him right before you see Mothman.
00:19:29
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But by that time, it's too late.
00:19:31
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Too late.
00:19:32
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It's too late for both you and Mothman because Phil has eaten you both.
00:19:37
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Nothing can stop his incredible hunger.
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So.
00:19:41
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All right.
00:19:42
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So Graham's turkey hunting these imps.
00:19:45
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We get to the very last one and he's threatening him.
00:19:50
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And the imp's like, hey, hey, I actually don't like Cusco.
00:19:54
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He's an asshole.
00:19:56
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A lot of us don't like him.
00:19:57
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In fact, I would love to fight him and and and take over his slot because he's promised us a lot of shit and we haven't gotten anything.
00:20:06
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any of it.
00:20:08
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So he's like, he's like, so what's our plan?
00:20:12
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So basically what they do is he brings Graham back to the court, the whatever room Kuzco was in and Graham still putting on the pretend I Graham thing.
00:20:25
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I Graham from Apple and.
00:20:29
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And he and we get this we get very satisfying moment because if you remember correctly, Graham was kind of humiliated by Kuzuku before just kicked his ass and had him set him running.
00:20:40
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So Kuzuku is like, what the hell would you bring this guy for me to me for?
00:20:44
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And Graham's like for this and just pops him in the face, not just daylights out, knocks him out.
00:20:52
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So that's that's the end of that chapter.
00:20:55
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Excuse me.
00:20:56
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We come to the next chapter where basically Kuzgu, he's got he's they've got him cornered.
00:21:01
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They've got him dead to rights.
00:21:03
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And he's just like, yeah, yeah, I'm kind of a fuck up.
00:21:09
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And he like admits basically that he's draining everybody.
00:21:12
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Yeah.
00:21:14
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But he's but he's also trying to kind of like play it off like he's, you know, like, oh, no, I don't know.
00:21:20
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It's just it's fine.
00:21:22
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Whatever.
00:21:23
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I didn't mean to.
00:21:24
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I didn't mean to fuck everything up.
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He's trying to play the pathetic role.
The Battle with Kuzgu
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And basically, when they let their their their guard down, he begins his Ganon transformation.
00:21:34
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Sure.
00:21:35
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This is the way more appropriate.
00:21:36
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I should have saved the Ganon metaphor for this because that's this guy.
00:21:42
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This is it.
00:21:42
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Yeah.
00:21:43
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And he, and he is like bone, it's kind of graphic for King's Quest.
00:21:46
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His bones start like snapping and reshaping themselves and stuff.
00:21:50
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And, and he's becomes this new form and they just run, they just run like crazy.
00:21:56
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Yeah.
00:21:58
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They try to go.
00:21:59
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They go to free the fairy queen and and Dunstan catches them.
00:22:03
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He's woken up and he catches them.
00:22:06
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And the and Dunstan is like, no, he's my friend.
00:22:10
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They're like, no, he's nobody's friend.
00:22:12
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Yeah.
00:22:13
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If Kuzuku is an ice cream flavor, he'd be pralines and dick.
00:22:17
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Yeah.
00:22:18
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It's one of those situations.
00:22:21
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And I just listened to to you are good.
00:22:27
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Did a podcast episode on on Wayne's World.
00:22:33
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It's still good.
00:22:35
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Yeah, still the Wayne's World movies.
00:22:39
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They're not as high, but I hold them in a similar esteem to the Addams Family movies.
00:22:45
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Sure.
00:22:45
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They all they came out around the same time.
00:22:47
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Yeah.
00:22:48
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So there's a similarity there.
00:22:50
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They're very of their time.
00:22:52
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And I think all four movies hold up really, really well.
00:22:55
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Yeah, they're actually totally funny.
00:22:57
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Honestly, in the in Addams Family, is it the first one or the second one where Wednesday does the whole thing at the summer camp?
00:23:07
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That's values.
00:23:07
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That's the second one.
00:23:08
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Yeah.
00:23:08
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That's a good one.
00:23:09
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Yeah.
00:23:09
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That's a good moment.
00:23:12
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Um, where she sets fire to everything.
00:23:15
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And there's this, and I was watching it.
00:23:16
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We were watching it with, uh, we were watching it with Graham on Thanksgiving because it's a Thanksgiving movie.
00:23:20
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Cause yeah, it's honestly, it's, I can say there's like two Thanksgiving movies.
00:23:25
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And that's one of them.
00:23:26
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Yeah, exactly.
00:23:26
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That's what it's Adam's family values and, uh, planes, trains and automobiles.
00:23:30
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Yeah.
00:23:31
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Yep.
00:23:34
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Yeah.
00:23:34
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So we watched that and being a parent changes everything.
00:23:39
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I know you've heard this a million times, guys.
00:23:42
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And I do mean what I'm saying, but maybe not in the way that you've heard it from everybody else.
00:23:47
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It's just I put myself in the position of fictional dads now and go, how would I react if –
00:23:55
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my son did something like that or so.
00:23:57
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And I watched Wednesday and Pugsley burn this privileged white boy, uh, uh, camp to the ground.
00:24:06
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And I was just like, I'd be so fucking proud of him.
00:24:10
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I was, I was as proud of him as if he had already done it.
00:24:14
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Uh, it was that level.
00:24:16
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So yeah.
00:24:18
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Yeah.
00:24:19
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Uh, uh, but anyway, uh,
00:24:22
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Anyway, real quick.
00:24:23
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I was like, how did we get here?
00:24:24
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Oh, right, right.
00:24:25
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Praline's a dick.
00:24:25
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Praline's a dick.
00:24:27
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So as they're trying to explain Ganondorf slash Kuzgu shows up and the fairy queen identifies him as in a free tea, which is basically it's a genie.
00:24:39
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Basically, it's like a witch.
00:24:40
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Yeah, my my
00:24:44
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experience with them is strictly Final Fantasy.
00:24:47
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Yeah, yeah.
00:24:48
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Mine is mostly D&D.
00:24:49
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It's a similar vibe.
00:24:51
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It's a djinn, you know, for all intents and purposes.
00:24:55
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And so Dunstan sees that he's been a fool all this time and turns on the Efreet and just starts fighting him and is getting his ass kicked because it's just not a fight he's meant to win.
00:25:10
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When, and this is another wonderful
00:25:13
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I can see this in the game so clearly moment where you earlier in a few chapters ago, I didn't bring it up because it didn't matter until now.
00:25:24
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You find this you're told this detail that Kuzgu, while all of the other imps are because they've got all these riches around them, they will only eat off of silver plates instead of the bone plates that they normally eat off of.
00:25:40
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Um, whereas, but Kuzgu is very insistent on no fuck that.
00:25:45
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I'm going to keep eating off of my bone plate.
00:25:46
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I only eat off bone plates.
00:25:48
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Right.
00:25:49
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Which, which at the time you kind of interpret as, oh, he's still, you know, he's still of the people.
00:25:55
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It's his, it's his picture of himself, big game hunting for the Republican party kind of thing.
00:26:01
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Uh, it's, it's like, I'm still one of the people that's, that's kind of how it's
00:26:04
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it reads.
00:26:05
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But now that he's in a free tea, it's kind of different.
00:26:09
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So Graham grabs the plate, throws it into the form of the free tea, and it just pops him like a balloon, basically.
00:26:17
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Yep.
00:26:18
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So he's still alive.
00:26:20
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And so is so is the the giant.
00:26:23
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And the beginning of Chapter 27 actually opens with kind of a brutal bit of surgery.
00:26:30
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Bandaging up Dunstan, who with like it was just sliced to shreds, sliced to shreds.
00:26:36
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And they and they they are very clear on this.
00:26:39
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He is being sewn up with a nail that they find and braided cord from like the curtains.
00:26:47
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Yeah.
00:26:48
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Which I'm like, that's like a dowel rod thick.
00:26:51
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That's insane.
00:26:52
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He's not that big.
00:26:54
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That's still insane.
00:26:57
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And they're like, hey, motherfucker, this is going to hurt.
00:27:00
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This is what we got.
00:27:01
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This is what we got.
00:27:02
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This is what we're going to do.
00:27:03
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So we get a really brief but brutal surgery scene.
00:27:08
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Yeah.
00:27:09
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So the shadow slime that is left behind by Kuzgu is it's it's it's taken out, but it's still it's like it's the it's the mood slime from.
00:27:22
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Yeah, that's exactly it.
00:27:23
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Yeah.
00:27:25
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Yeah.
00:27:25
Speaker
Ghostbusters.
00:27:26
Speaker
Yeah.
00:27:28
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You didn't sleep with it, did you?
00:27:31
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Oh, always the quiet ones.
00:27:34
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Yeah.
00:27:35
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Lonely, lonely man.
00:27:38
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It's like that.
00:27:39
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It is like that.
00:27:40
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And so they're kind of like trying to figure out what to do with it.
00:27:44
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So they put it in the cage that the fairy queen had been in because it had like magic canceling effects.
00:27:51
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Yeah.
00:27:53
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And they find out pretty quickly that this is not it's not working on him all that well because he's basically trying to use charm person on them.
00:28:00
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It's working a little bit, but it's like it's it's a short term solution.
00:28:05
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Yes, exactly.
00:28:05
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They need they need they need something a little more permanent here.
00:28:08
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Yeah.
00:28:09
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And so they they go back to the secret door, essentially, that Graham had crawled under as a lizard to find the trapped wizard.
00:28:21
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They go there and they're trying to figure out how they're going to open it up.
00:28:24
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And Dunstan just smashes it open, which is classic.
00:28:27
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That's great.
00:28:28
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And chapter 28, we enter into that chamber where, to remind you, we have this figure in the center in a chair, and he's basically being bound by these beams of light.
00:28:42
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So the queen, who is not at her she's like, I'm not at my fullest strength, but I can give this a try.
00:28:50
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basically starts like bending the light beams back.
00:28:56
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Uh, and as she's doing this, we get this painstaking, uh, series of moments where Dunstan keeps coming back being like, Hey, look, he's fucking up that cage.
00:29:05
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Uh, you've got like five minutes.
00:29:07
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He keeps poking it.
00:29:09
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Cause Dunstan can't go in through the door.
00:29:10
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The door is too small for him.
00:29:12
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And he's like, exactly.
00:29:13
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He's like just calling out and be like, guys, I don't know what to tell you, but we got we're going away.
00:29:20
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He's going well.
00:29:22
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He's bubbling up.
00:29:23
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He's a bubbling.
00:29:23
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He's a bubbling.
00:29:25
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That's exactly it.
00:29:25
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And it just it just goes like that for a while.
00:29:31
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eventually they do free this man who's this kind of older classic wizard looking dude you know with a beard and the robes and all that um he's that he's that guy uh uh we all know that guy yeah um so he's freed and he says something about wanting to see kudsku like he's like i've got to see him but at that point uh
00:29:54
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the magic that was holding this, this, the, the, the kingdom of sorrow together, the sorrowful court together is falling apart because he was a battery.
00:30:04
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Dunstan was a battery.
00:30:05
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Now the batteries are out of the back of the remote.
00:30:09
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No more Netflix for you.
00:30:10
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So they, they, you know, so, so we get, we get that classic moment of like, we gotta get the hell
Escape from Kingdom of Sorrow
00:30:19
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out of here.
00:30:20
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And,
00:30:21
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Yeah.
00:30:21
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Yeah.
00:30:21
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Just scramble out stage.
00:30:23
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Right.
00:30:24
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Even.
00:30:24
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Yeah, exactly.
00:30:25
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Exactly.
00:30:26
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And we get that moment.
00:30:27
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Um, and we cut to chapter 29 where, uh, we have the, the long drawn out escape.
00:30:34
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Uh, I know.
00:30:36
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here um so they're escaping they finally make their it's you get a lot of there's a lot of twists and turns and they find uh that one imp that had helped graham out and he joins them and they they find uh thragagash uh or thragadash who's the troll that uh had brought graham there in the first place and he's like no fuck that i like it here i'm not going anywhere uh you basically get a little goodbye to all these named characters
00:30:59
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on the way out the door.
00:31:00
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It's like Dragon Ash is like, they're like, you're going to die if you stay here.
00:31:04
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He's like, no, I'm comfy.
00:31:07
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I just don't see that happening.
00:31:10
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They're all like, okay, moving on.
00:31:13
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Okie dokie.
00:31:14
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Yeah, that's basically exactly it.
00:31:17
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So if this were the part in the game, this would be I believe they had this in Kings Quest five.
00:31:22
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There was this is this is the maze.
00:31:25
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We've got to go this way.
00:31:26
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You got to go that way.
00:31:27
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They get through the maze and the kingdom.
00:31:30
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The court is basically there.
00:31:33
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Now it's now a cave essentially in the side of the mountain and they make their way out.
00:31:37
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And the moment.
00:31:38
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the fairy queen and all of them get out uh spring just hits immediately yeah uh it starts warming up and uh and everything is is already nature nature is healing nature is healing quite literally and guess what uh fairy queen gets even hotter
00:31:58
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gets even hotter.
00:31:59
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And they talk a lot about this.
00:32:00
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They talk about the fairy queen's hotness in a way that would make Graham's wife look like roadkill.
00:32:08
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It's kind of insulting.
00:32:10
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You're like, excuse me.
00:32:13
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She's like, they're like, this is the most unattainable level of hotness.
00:32:17
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Right, right.
00:32:18
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That's exactly it.
00:32:19
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It's like, you know that moment when you first saw Megan Fox standing over the engine block in Transformers?
00:32:27
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Well, she's dog shit compared to that.
00:32:29
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She sucks.
00:32:31
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And that's basically it.
00:32:33
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We get a lot of focus on that, which is fine.
00:32:36
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We do later in the book, we will get a moment where...
00:32:41
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She's going to leave.
00:32:42
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And Graham is like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:32:43
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You should probably go because it's kind of implied that he's like, I'm a cheat on my wife.
00:32:48
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This chick is around me too long.
00:32:51
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It's, it's like, he's like, he's like, you know, cause, cause he's, he's in love with his wife, but God damn.
00:32:57
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Like that's basically what it says.
The Wizard's Betrayal and Defeat
00:32:59
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Yeah.
00:32:59
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Yeah.
00:33:01
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So but the chapter does end with we meet Karn, who is the wizard that they freed them, that they freed.
00:33:07
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Immediate villain name.
00:33:09
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Immediate villain name.
00:33:10
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And he's and they and he's like, you guys saved me.
00:33:13
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Thanks so much.
00:33:14
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And Graham says, no, man, it's it's no you don't owe us any debt.
00:33:19
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We're just happy to help you.
00:33:20
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And he goes, OK.
00:33:21
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And weirdly says, so you're sure that I don't owe you guys a debt?
00:33:28
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And they're like, yeah.
00:33:30
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And he says, great, because it's time for me to kill you now.
00:33:35
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Bum, bum, bum.
00:33:36
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So basically in the next chapter, we are informed.
00:33:40
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Karn lets them know this part kind of annoyed me because it's this brand new character.
00:33:45
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We are almost done.
00:33:48
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And he's got his.
00:33:50
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We've got to tell his fucking story.
00:33:53
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Yeah.
00:33:54
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Yeah.
00:33:54
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So basically, he was not a prisoner there.
00:33:57
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He was willingly in that chamber doing this ritual that was going to take decades that he'd been in.
00:34:05
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It's implied he'd been in there for like 10 years or something like that.
00:34:08
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A long, long time.
00:34:10
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And and he he is using that to basically basically become the everything lich god wizard.
00:34:20
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You know, it's like he literally says he's like, because if I done this, I would have gotten everything.
00:34:25
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I would have been good at everything.
00:34:28
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I would have had everything.
00:34:29
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And so he's pissed that they basically came in and interrupted his shit, which, to be fair,
00:34:35
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I'd be pissed too.
00:34:35
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But then you're like, oh, that was kind of a dick move.
00:34:38
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When you think about it, they didn't know that he was in trouble.
00:34:40
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And then you realize, oh, well, they would have had to deal with him in another couple of years as the superpowered wizard.
00:34:46
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So yeah, better now.
00:34:47
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Might as well get it over with.
00:34:49
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:34:50
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So he starts beating on everybody and he's just kicking everyone's ass.
00:34:57
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Nobody's a match for him until Graham gets the clever idea to slizzard him.
00:35:05
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Uh, getting slizzard.
00:35:07
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He got slizzard.
00:35:08
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Uh, and so, so in the, we, the chapter ends with the wizard saying, I Karn.
00:35:14
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Uh, so that's, that's his ultimate fate.
00:35:16
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We don't worry about it, guys.
00:35:17
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We introduced this super villain, uh, and took him out in our, in roughly 20, 20 pages.
00:35:24
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Uh, so don't worry about it.
00:35:26
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Um, so we get, finally, we get, uh,
00:35:31
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We got the final the final chapter is the party is is slowly dividing as they leave.
00:35:36
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They're making their ways ways home.
00:35:38
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The imp leaves with the Carnes lizard and and just to make sure he doesn't fuck around too much.
00:35:46
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The fairy queen is given the
00:35:48
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the actual lizard, uh, you know, the deadhead Karn goes with, goes with, uh, the imp and, um, and, uh, it kind of implied that to, to maybe be eaten at some point.
00:35:59
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I mean, they didn't, they don't bring the spiders back up, but no, they don't, which I was surprised about because that was, that felt like that was, uh,
00:36:07
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That was happening.
00:36:10
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But to basically make sure that he's permanently separated the fairy queen, she finds the old wood and they're like, you're going to you're going to have this.
00:36:17
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But not before.
00:36:18
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But they do bring back the four brothers who threw Graham and Shallan down into that well to be eaten by the little gnome things with the bone furniture and all that shit.
00:36:30
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Right.
00:36:30
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Find them.
00:36:31
Speaker
And for some reason, we get vengeance on them.
00:36:33
Speaker
They kick their ass and take Graham's cloak back because they'd stolen his cloak.
00:36:38
Speaker
And that because that matters.
00:36:40
Speaker
And we get that taken care of.
00:36:42
Speaker
That little that little loose ends, that little loose end gets tied up real good.
00:36:47
Speaker
And and so and then we get to the old wood and then the queen's like, I always remember you shouldn't say that, but that's kind of the implication.
00:36:56
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That's basically what you're getting.
00:36:58
Speaker
And I always remember the kind of strangers.
00:37:00
Speaker
Yeah, exactly.
00:37:01
Speaker
And she takes the lizard with her so that Karn can never come back and fuck around anymore.
00:37:08
Speaker
She has a new name, which she's given herself a new name, which translates to the queen who was once saved by a human guy or something.
00:37:19
Speaker
And it's like, okay.
00:37:21
Speaker
Okay.
00:37:22
Speaker
It's just right on because it's like in your language, it's just, it's very literal.
00:37:26
Speaker
Yeah.
00:37:27
Speaker
Yeah.
00:37:28
Speaker
Like in our language, it sounds mysterious, but in your language, it's just like, I can't help but think that you're going around calling yourself that to people who understand it.
00:37:37
Speaker
And it's, yeah.
00:37:38
Speaker
Okay.
00:37:39
Speaker
It's weird.
00:37:39
Speaker
You know, it's weird.
00:37:40
Speaker
It's weird.
00:37:42
Speaker
So she keeps like,
00:37:45
Speaker
these overtures of like, ah, and I will remember you.
00:37:49
Speaker
And you can tell grandma's just like, you have to go.
00:37:51
Speaker
You have to, you are too hot and you have to go.
00:37:53
Speaker
I can't get out of here.
00:37:54
Speaker
I can't deal with it.
00:37:55
Speaker
I can't deal with this shit.
00:37:57
Speaker
I've had an erection that I strapped against my leg with a belt.
00:38:02
Speaker
So no one would notice it.
00:38:04
Speaker
And it's lasted for four days.
00:38:06
Speaker
And I, I do not have the phone number of my doctor and I'm fucked.
00:38:11
Speaker
That's a fact.
00:38:11
Speaker
So, so that was very graphic.
00:38:15
Speaker
So the book ends with Graham
Conclusion and Return to Daventry
00:38:19
Speaker
heading out into the woods and who's there but Shallan Shallan got away.
00:38:25
Speaker
If you remember in one of the last episodes, he he seemed to kind of sacrifice himself in a way to take Graham as he got out.
00:38:33
Speaker
But there's Shallan and they have some quips and they they're going to sing songs all the way back to Daventry.
00:38:40
Speaker
The end.
00:38:41
Speaker
The end.
00:38:42
Speaker
The end.
00:38:44
Speaker
So, Kevin, what did you think of King's Quest Kingdom of Sorrow?
00:38:48
Speaker
I liked it.
00:38:50
Speaker
Yeah.
00:38:50
Speaker
It was nice.
00:38:53
Speaker
It was the way the story is structured totally worked for me.
00:38:57
Speaker
You know, it was like, it was like, oh, we got to do something.
00:39:00
Speaker
And then there's a setback.
00:39:01
Speaker
And it was a nice, you know, classic story.
00:39:04
Speaker
you know, set out for your goal, have a setback, go further type of thing.
00:39:10
Speaker
And it, it all worked.
00:39:11
Speaker
The thing, it loses points for introducing the big bad in the last like 10 pages.
00:39:17
Speaker
Yeah, absolutely.
00:39:19
Speaker
Did not enjoy that.
00:39:21
Speaker
I feel like there could have been just a little bit more with that guy.
00:39:26
Speaker
Yeah.
00:39:28
Speaker
Or at least set the set him up in the beginning somehow.
00:39:33
Speaker
Set the name up or something.
00:39:35
Speaker
Something.
00:39:36
Speaker
Something like that.
00:39:37
Speaker
Yeah.
00:39:37
Speaker
Yeah.
00:39:38
Speaker
Like like we like we've heard this name like we get this name earlier, Karn Nagito or something like that.
00:39:45
Speaker
Right.
00:39:45
Speaker
And then finally at the end, the guy goes, oh, my name.
00:39:49
Speaker
is car nikito yeah exactly it's an anime and they're like oh uh it's that thing ah it's uh i totally agree i i totally that bothered me too so yeah yeah what do you you said to me earlier you were like it's a b
00:40:07
Speaker
I like a solid B it's, it's a, it's a nice story.
00:40:12
Speaker
And I think as opposed to the most, the first King's quest book, which we read this one really genuinely, maybe more than any other thing we've read so far really feels like the source material.
00:40:26
Speaker
And I'm not the only one to think so.
00:40:28
Speaker
I did some brief look.
00:40:29
Speaker
I haven't, I haven't, um,
00:40:30
Speaker
I haven't gone too deep into it, but I found screen caps that someone had created in the King's Quest five style of moments in this as if it were a game.
00:40:44
Speaker
It's just so neat.
00:40:45
Speaker
It's really very nice.
00:40:46
Speaker
Oh, you know what?
00:40:47
Speaker
I think I saw that somebody was actually trying to create a King's Quest.
00:40:51
Speaker
Were they trying to actually make it?
00:40:52
Speaker
Oh, see.
00:40:53
Speaker
And that's the thing.
00:40:54
Speaker
This really lends itself to that.
00:40:57
Speaker
That would not be.
00:40:58
Speaker
I think that that would work.
00:41:00
Speaker
And I think Kenyon more either either she was already a fan of King's Quest or she just did her fucking homework on a level that you don't always see with right for hire people.
00:41:15
Speaker
Right.
00:41:17
Speaker
So I do congratulate her on on writing something because and the thing is, is.
00:41:23
Speaker
Some of these books that we read, some of these franchises that we get into, I don't always know them.
00:41:30
Speaker
I'm not always an expert on them.
00:41:32
Speaker
No, totally.
00:41:33
Speaker
This is one that I know.
00:41:35
Speaker
This is one that I am very aware of.
00:41:38
Speaker
Intimately familiar with.
00:41:39
Speaker
Yes.
00:41:39
Speaker
Your son is named after the character.
00:41:42
Speaker
Right.
00:41:42
Speaker
Like this is this is one that I know and take to heart.
00:41:46
Speaker
So it impressed me the level of of just just it felt like the care.
00:41:56
Speaker
It really did.
00:41:56
Speaker
Yeah.
00:41:57
Speaker
Yeah.
00:41:57
Speaker
There was care taken for it.
00:41:58
Speaker
And I really enjoyed it and made me hopeful for the third and final one, which we might get to next year.
00:42:03
Speaker
We'll see.
00:42:03
Speaker
And that's also Kenyon Moore.
00:42:05
Speaker
Did she also write the.
00:42:07
Speaker
She wrote the two, the second and third one.
00:42:10
Speaker
And the other guy wrote the first one.
00:42:14
Speaker
So now that that's over, Kevin, I have one question for you.
00:42:20
Speaker
What are you playing?
00:42:21
Speaker
Oh, OK.
00:42:22
Speaker
Well, I wasn't expecting this.
00:42:24
Speaker
No, no, I kind of put you on the spot here and I'm sorry.
00:42:27
Speaker
We never are.
00:42:30
Speaker
I am playing Indiana Jones and the Great Circle and I am having a lovely time with it.
00:42:38
Speaker
Nice.
00:42:39
Speaker
So, okay.
00:42:42
Speaker
When it was first announced that MachineGames is doing it, I was both super hyped and also like, all right, well, let's see how this goes, because MachineGames is mostly known for, they did the Wolfenstein series, right?
00:42:55
Speaker
The most recent Wolfenstein series, which I adore.
00:42:59
Speaker
They did a hell of a good job with it.
00:43:01
Speaker
A hell of a good job.
00:43:02
Speaker
But I was like, all right, what does that mean?
00:43:03
Speaker
It's going to be more of like Indiana Jones as a shooter or what have you.
00:43:07
Speaker
And I'm happy to say that this game is a straight up adventure game.
00:43:13
Speaker
It's in the first person, but it's an adventure game.
00:43:19
Speaker
And a lot of what you're doing is so the opening tutorial level is the beginning of Raiders of the Lost Ark.
00:43:29
Speaker
Oh, literally up through like the boulder.
00:43:35
Speaker
And then you're you know, you get kind of tossed into this mystery where you find a giant who is broken into the Marshall College Museum to steal something.
00:43:49
Speaker
And he just beats the absolute beast.
00:43:51
Speaker
piss out of you.
00:43:52
Speaker
The giant played by the late, the great Tony Todd in one of his last roles.
00:44:01
Speaker
Tony Todd will miss you.
00:44:04
Speaker
Yeah.
00:44:06
Speaker
So you get choked out by Tony Todd and it just kicks off this.
00:44:12
Speaker
It kicks off this mystery of like figuring out where he came from and all that stuff.
00:44:16
Speaker
And, you know, you're off in the Vatican and the mechanics are really cool because so like you have a gun, like Indiana Jones has a revolver.
00:44:30
Speaker
But the way you play the game, you're like, no, I don't think I'm going to use it most of the time because it's
00:44:38
Speaker
it's a revolver and it's so goddamn loud.
00:44:42
Speaker
Like most of the time you're just trying to sneak through an area.
00:44:45
Speaker
The moment you fire the gun, every fascist in the immediate vicinity is like, what was that?
00:44:55
Speaker
And that's coming.
00:44:56
Speaker
So almost everything it's like, yes, the more stealthy way to go is almost always going to be the better option.
00:45:05
Speaker
Um,
00:45:06
Speaker
Most of the game is the game is like solving puzzles and looking for clues and things like that while avoiding detection by that's so much by fascists by Mussolini's black shirts.
00:45:20
Speaker
And it's it's really cool.
00:45:23
Speaker
I love it so far.
00:45:24
Speaker
I've been having some troubles with like the graphics settings like it.
00:45:28
Speaker
Here's the thing.
00:45:29
Speaker
It runs really smoothly.
00:45:31
Speaker
It runs like I, the, in terms of, I have to put everything on low, obviously, but it runs super smooth.
00:45:40
Speaker
The only issue I'm having is there seems to be a glitch right now.
00:45:44
Speaker
And I, I'm sure they'll patch it out eventually where, uh,
00:45:49
Speaker
certain laptop graphics cards have an issue with the shadows in the game.
00:45:57
Speaker
And it kind of like instead of making them natural shadow looking, the objects that are within the shadows get kind of like this weird grayish texture applied to them.
00:46:07
Speaker
It looks weird.
00:46:09
Speaker
So I'm just like ignoring it for now and hoping that they patch it and just, you know, carrying on.
00:46:16
Speaker
It's mostly an issue in the
00:46:19
Speaker
Apparently, it's mostly an issue in the Vatican area, the Vatican level that I'm in right now, because you're constantly going from inside, like indoors to outdoors to indoors to outdoors.
00:46:30
Speaker
You're like going in and out of different buildings and stuff like that.
00:46:34
Speaker
But the way the game is designed, it's not like linear level, linear level, linear level.
00:46:39
Speaker
Like you are...
00:46:44
Speaker
each level is a large sandbox.
00:46:49
Speaker
Oh, okay.
00:46:50
Speaker
Basically.
00:46:51
Speaker
So you are in, um, right now I'm at the Vatican and, uh,
00:47:00
Speaker
It's not like you have a main quest, you have a bunch of side quests, you have a bunch of smaller mysteries that you can solve for either to get money or to get like adventure points and adventure points are actually the system where you level up.
00:47:18
Speaker
Like, so it's not like a...
00:47:22
Speaker
It's not like an RPG where you're like leveling up.
00:47:24
Speaker
You're find for the first part of the equation is you have to find a book on a topic like brawling or punching or whatever.
00:47:34
Speaker
And then you have to spend adventure points to like read and unlock the skill.
00:47:39
Speaker
So there's like a skill where it's like if you are wearing your hat and you get knocked out, you can you can have it.
00:47:50
Speaker
You have a chance to pick your hat up and put it on.
00:47:53
Speaker
It's like a like a second life, basically.
00:47:57
Speaker
Oh, that's fun.
00:47:57
Speaker
That's like a skill, a skill you can learn.
00:48:01
Speaker
Yeah, I like that.
00:48:03
Speaker
So like everything is very, it feels like very in the perfect for like in Indiana Jones style game.
00:48:12
Speaker
And the whip is mostly used for traversal, like,
00:48:19
Speaker
You can whip people.
00:48:20
Speaker
Whipping is mostly like, will like stun and keep a guy back, but it's not like, it's not a weapon necessarily that you would use.
00:48:28
Speaker
Use it for like getting to higher areas because you can like whip onto a pipe or something and climb up.
00:48:35
Speaker
Yeah.
00:48:37
Speaker
or whip a weapon out of somebody's hand.
00:48:40
Speaker
Stuff like that.
00:48:41
Speaker
But it is a lot of fun.
00:48:46
Speaker
It is a shame that it was released in December for the sake of a lot of the game of the year lists.
00:48:54
Speaker
Yeah, a lot of people are done with those lists.
00:48:56
Speaker
A lot of people are done with those lists.
00:48:58
Speaker
I assure you, I am not done with my list.
00:49:01
Speaker
I didn't think so.
00:49:03
Speaker
My list will not be finalized until I am actually recording the episode with Phil.
00:49:09
Speaker
And as always, the title card is subject to change.
00:49:13
Speaker
So I might even change my mind halfway through the episode.
00:49:17
Speaker
Who knows?
00:49:17
Speaker
It's happened.
00:49:18
Speaker
It's happened as far as you guys know.
00:49:20
Speaker
As far as you guys know.
00:49:21
Speaker
Yeah.
00:49:21
Speaker
So yeah.
00:49:22
Speaker
Indiana Jones and the Great Circle playing it, loving it.
00:49:26
Speaker
It's also what's his name?
00:49:28
Speaker
Troy Baker.
00:49:30
Speaker
who is kind of annoying as a voice actor and personality, but as a voice actor is absolutely crushing this role.
00:49:43
Speaker
Oh, nice.
00:49:43
Speaker
After a few minutes, I was like...
00:49:47
Speaker
of him doing Harrison Ford's Indiana Jones voice.
00:49:52
Speaker
I was like, well, I was locked in.
00:49:53
Speaker
It was one of those, like, you just hear it for a few minutes.
00:49:57
Speaker
Um, you're like, I'm there, I'm there.
00:49:59
Speaker
And also, uh, shout out to one of my favorite, uh,
00:50:05
Speaker
actors who is one of my favorite actors who fills a similar role to Joe Pantz, Joe Pantaleone, Enrico Colatoni, who is most people will know him as Veronica Mars's dad.
00:50:25
Speaker
Oh, that.
00:50:25
Speaker
OK, yeah, that face, that guy.
00:50:27
Speaker
Yeah.
00:50:27
Speaker
He plays an Italian priest that you meet up with at the Vatican.
00:50:33
Speaker
And he's, you know, he's one of my favorite character actors, shows up in a bunch of things.
00:50:40
Speaker
He's a solid that guy.
00:50:42
Speaker
Yeah, he's a solid that guy.
00:50:44
Speaker
And you'll know who I'm talking about.
00:50:46
Speaker
The thing is, in the game, you might not recognize him right away because he has like a little, you know, pencil thin Italian mustache and and all that stuff.
00:50:56
Speaker
But yeah, it's he's a he's a very solid that guy.
00:51:00
Speaker
And he's he's also speaking Italian with and has a very Italian accent.
00:51:08
Speaker
And he actually speaks Italian and actually knows what he's doing.
00:51:11
Speaker
So, yes.
00:51:15
Speaker
So, yeah, that's what I've been playing.
00:51:18
Speaker
What have you been playing?
00:51:20
Speaker
Look, I'm still playing UFO 50.
00:51:22
Speaker
That game is the sheer amount of numbers that it has pulled in such a short amount of time for me.
00:51:30
Speaker
Is that Ripley?
00:51:31
Speaker
Yeah.
00:51:32
Speaker
Yeah.
00:51:32
Speaker
Oh, no.
00:51:32
Speaker
Sorry.
00:51:32
Speaker
That's Jonesy Jonesy's.
00:51:34
Speaker
We rearranged and the bigger cat tree is in here now.
00:51:41
Speaker
And normally they kind of ignore it unless unless it's a bird outside.
00:51:45
Speaker
But because we moved everything, he's going batshit over it because it's new.
00:51:52
Speaker
That's that's what you got to do to keep your your cats entertained.
00:51:56
Speaker
Um, but yeah, look, UFO 50.
00:51:57
Speaker
Uh, uh, I am, I am embarrassed at how long it's taking me to finish, uh, uh, uh, demolition.
00:52:07
Speaker
Uh, it's like one of those things where it's like, it's right there.
00:52:09
Speaker
It's right in my grasp and I still haven't beaten it.
00:52:14
Speaker
Um, I started playing another one, which is like a turn-based strategy game with dinosaurs, which is, Oh yeah.
00:52:21
Speaker
Yeah.
00:52:21
Speaker
That's super fun.
00:52:22
Speaker
I've beaten the first two difficulty levels of it, and I'm going in for the third one.
00:52:28
Speaker
I love this game so much.
00:52:32
Speaker
It feels like it was made for me.
00:52:34
Speaker
There's a level of discovery and fun to it that is...
00:52:40
Speaker
is only possible to appreciate if you are old enough to have played with one of those mysterious hundred games in one cartridge or gone to that one friend's house who had all the video games and you could just go through them and find out what they were all about or installed a ROM, you know, with like, which I would never do.
00:53:02
Speaker
Uh, uh, but, and you've got 720 games in front of you and you're like, I wonder what this is.
00:53:08
Speaker
Uh, it's, it's so, it, it just, it, it hits me in all the pleasure centers.
00:53:13
Speaker
Having said all that, I think I've done talking about it.
00:53:15
Speaker
It will be in the background.
00:53:16
Speaker
Kind of like Bellatro.
00:53:18
Speaker
Yeah.
00:53:19
Speaker
I think, I think we're good.
00:53:20
Speaker
Um, unless something weird happens, then I think we're good.
00:53:23
Speaker
Um,
00:53:25
Speaker
I played two demos this week.
00:53:28
Speaker
Back to demoing.
00:53:29
Speaker
Back to demoing.
00:53:31
Speaker
And I think they were very appropriate.
00:53:33
Speaker
I didn't do this on purpose, but they were really appropriate to play side by side.
00:53:38
Speaker
They're both horror demos and they're both super indie games.
00:53:42
Speaker
The first one I played was Tempest Triad, which is the current flavor of the month on like TikTok and streamers and stuff like that.
00:53:52
Speaker
It isn't out officially yet.
00:53:54
Speaker
It is this.
00:53:55
Speaker
horror survival horror dinosaur game.
00:53:59
Speaker
It looks like it's trying to be what I'm hoping the Jurassic Park game that's coming out next year is going to be where it's like alien isolation, but with dinosaurs.
00:54:11
Speaker
It's not quite that, but it looks that way.
00:54:15
Speaker
There's something there.
00:54:17
Speaker
Uh, having said all that, it's, it's very clearly just the, the flavor of the month thing that streamers play and scream at, uh, to get people to watch.
00:54:26
Speaker
Um, there are some clever things to it.
00:54:29
Speaker
It's, uh, it, it uses mist.
00:54:32
Speaker
in the same ways and for probably for the same reason that Silent Hill 2 did way back in the day.
00:54:40
Speaker
You can't see past a certain area.
00:54:43
Speaker
It's very effective.
00:54:44
Speaker
There are lots of very cinematic moments that are genuinely effective.
00:54:49
Speaker
You don't see anything at first.
00:54:50
Speaker
You're just going into this bunker at some point.
00:54:54
Speaker
You go in, you do a couple of things in the bunker.
00:54:55
Speaker
And when you come out,
00:54:58
Speaker
you see the shape of this pteranodon flying overhead and it's, it's pretty cool.
00:55:07
Speaker
Uh, it's, it's, it's a, it's an effective use of limited hardware.
00:55:11
Speaker
It feels like one person is programming this.
00:55:14
Speaker
Um, and, and, and because of that, it is janky as shit.
00:55:17
Speaker
It doesn't feel very good to play.
00:55:20
Speaker
Sure.
00:55:21
Speaker
Uh, it's not, uh,
00:55:23
Speaker
you know, your, your, you know, action buttons and everything like that.
00:55:27
Speaker
Don't feel all that responsive.
00:55:28
Speaker
It feels very loose.
00:55:31
Speaker
That's the word for it.
00:55:31
Speaker
I would say it feels very loose.
00:55:33
Speaker
It's a, if this is going to be something that people continue to play past the demo, it really needs to be tightened up.
00:55:39
Speaker
Right.
00:55:40
Speaker
It's, it's interesting, but it's, it's really cool.
00:55:45
Speaker
If I'm right, and this is just one person, then it is impressive.
00:55:48
Speaker
Sure.
00:55:50
Speaker
And it's ambitious, but it doesn't feel like it just doesn't feel like something you can you can properly do in in an amount of time less than two decades.
00:56:02
Speaker
You know, it's just too difficult to create that experience.
00:56:07
Speaker
Right.
00:56:07
Speaker
By yourself.
00:56:09
Speaker
So very interesting.
00:56:09
Speaker
I'd recommend people take a look at it because it looks pretty cool.
00:56:14
Speaker
Yeah.
00:56:17
Speaker
Right after that, I played the demo for Devil's Hideout, which you got this game, didn't you?
00:56:24
Speaker
Yes, I did.
00:56:25
Speaker
Yeah.
00:56:27
Speaker
This is also a horror game.
00:56:28
Speaker
It's a point and click kind of classic adventure point and click.
00:56:32
Speaker
Yeah.
00:56:34
Speaker
very, uh, uh, straightforward.
00:56:38
Speaker
Sure.
00:56:38
Speaker
Um, also, also a game that makes you feel like, I think maybe one person is involved in making this, but the difference is, is this uses, um, those limitations effectively.
00:56:52
Speaker
Um, it is, it, it, it,
00:56:55
Speaker
It's got a great adventure feel to it.
00:56:57
Speaker
It's got kind of classic puzzle solving shit.
00:57:01
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The art is simple, but good.
00:57:05
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And there are a couple of moments in the demo that genuinely I was like, oh, shit, that's scary as fuck.
00:57:09
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I did not know they had that coming.
00:57:12
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There are a couple of moments that I was just like, I did not.
00:57:14
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I didn't know we were going there.
00:57:15
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You were not ready for that.
00:57:17
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No.
00:57:17
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And it's pretty effectively done.
00:57:21
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I believe it's $10 full price, which might be worth it, especially if it goes on sale or something.
00:57:28
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But having played both of those side by side, it was kind of like showing me.
00:57:35
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You know, kind of graphically, literally in terms of like what Indy is good at and based on your team size and everything like that and taking advantage of your weaknesses and stuff like that.
00:57:47
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Not trying to make a triple A game, trying to make your game.
00:57:51
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Right.
00:57:52
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They were both really interesting.
00:57:54
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I, as I always do with the demos, I recommend checking them out if only to take a look and see what I'm talking about here.
00:58:00
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Yeah.
00:58:02
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So that's, that's me.
00:58:03
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That's what I, that's what I played.
00:58:04
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Fantastic.
00:58:06
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All right.
00:58:06
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Well, that'll do it for tonight's episode.
00:58:09
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Thank you all so much for listening.
00:58:10
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You can find us on blue sky at pixelit pod.com or also we personally are on blue sky.
00:58:19
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Yes.
00:58:20
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Find us on there.
00:58:21
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as well.
00:58:23
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Coming up next, originally I had stated that we would be doing a near automata, automata, long story short.
00:58:33
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I do it all the time.
00:58:34
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I can't, I can't, can't help it.
00:58:37
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But instead we're ending the year with the graphic novel, Returnal Fallen Asteria,
00:58:46
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And then we're going to be having our game of the year episode.
00:58:49
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There will be a compilation episode of all the bonus episodes to start the year.
00:58:55
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And yeah, then we're off into 2025.
00:58:59
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We already have a bunch of our books planned out for 2025.
00:59:01
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Dude, it's going to be a fun year.
00:59:04
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It's going to be a fun year.
00:59:05
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It's always a fun year.
00:59:06
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But this year coming up is going to be a fun year.
00:59:10
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All right.
00:59:11
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It has to be.
00:59:12
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It has to be a fun year.
00:59:13
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We are mandated by heaven.
00:59:16
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We have the mandate of heaven to make it a fun year because guess what?
00:59:21
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Shit's going to get bad in 2025.
00:59:22
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Mandatory fun, people.
00:59:25
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Mandatory fun.
00:59:26
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God help me.
00:59:27
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I will turn this car around.
00:59:39
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you