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The House of David Review
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In this edition, we review Amazon's The House of David!
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Introduction to the Podcast
00:00:07
Logan Howard
Hello and welcome to From Double to Cleveland. i am Logan Howard. I am joined with the hosts with the most. It's Brendan Thomas Merritt. How's it going, Brendan? How are you today?
00:00:17
BrendanThomasMarrett
I'm great. Always great. son Sun's in the sky. Summer is truly here.
Summer's Impact on Podcasting
00:00:24
BrendanThomasMarrett
Normally I'm fill but um filming these in the dark. I'm beginning to forget how to speak. It's been so long we've recorded these together.
00:00:33
BrendanThomasMarrett
And two sentences in and I've made at least one or two mistakes per a sentence. Summer's here. It's awesome. How's Tricks of You?
00:00:41
Logan Howard
It is. I still have not gotten the heat or the warmth or even today much of the sun, but summer is on its way this week.
Humorous Temperature Debate
00:00:50
Logan Howard
it's supposed to be quite warm on Monday, like very shorts and short sleeve weather hot.
00:01:00
Logan Howard
um I can't say Fahrenheit because Brendan doesn't understand Fahrenheit, but...
00:01:04
BrendanThomasMarrett
5-0. I'm sorry, you only start wearing your short sleeves in 50 degrees?
00:01:05
Logan Howard
um Yeah. Yeah. So Celsius, it's probably, i think the translation is it's like 50 degrees Celsius.
00:01:09
BrendanThomasMarrett
That is nuts. Yeah,
00:01:16
Logan Howard
It'll be hot.
00:01:18
BrendanThomasMarrett
like
00:01:20
Logan Howard
Yeah.
00:01:21
BrendanThomasMarrett
and sorry you only start wearing like your short sleeves and fifty degree that is not
00:01:26
Logan Howard
No, no, no, no. I'm just saying that' that's what you'll want to wear because you'll want to wear the least amount of clothing possible.
00:01:27
BrendanThomasMarrett
that
00:01:33
BrendanThomasMarrett
Yeah, if we get like 17 degrees, we're sweating over here. but but They're like, I don't know, 17-ish degrees right now.
00:01:41
Logan Howard
yeah
00:01:44
BrendanThomasMarrett
Mostly cloudy, but I can see there's a blue sky and sun behind it. Look at how I'm dressed.
00:01:50
Logan Howard
Now I have to figure out what 90 degrees is in Fahrenheit in Celsius, because I feel like I may have completely misjudged it.
00:02:03
Logan Howard
Give me
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00:02:04
Logan Howard
a second. Hold on, everybody.
00:02:04
BrendanThomasMarrett
50 degrees Celsius in the African weather.
00:02:05
Logan Howard
Oh! Anyway, while while I'm waiting on 90 degrees Fahrenheit to Celsius, we do have a um We do have new t-shirts. Pretty soon I will be getting mine. I've created them. I will have them in a link below.
00:02:24
Logan Howard
But it's with the new logo. So for those of you who are listening on Spotify or on your Google plus Playlist, you'll see our logo and you'll say, wow, it's such a cool emblem logo. And now you can own it. It's your home with your own.
00:02:38
Logan Howard
um So there'll be a link to that in the description of this episode. So hopefully you'll support us and join us that way.
Maintaining Podcast Schedule
00:02:46
Logan Howard
we I know the past year has kind of been topsy-turvy about how often we post episodes, and I know we always say at the end of every episode, well, you'll hear from us soon, then two weeks go by and you don't hear from us.
00:02:57
BrendanThomasMarrett
I'm sorry.
00:03:01
Logan Howard
so um One of the things this summer I've taken, at least upon myself, is to try to be more proactive in posting things, even if I know Brendan isn't able to do it.
00:03:11
Logan Howard
So we're going to try to... get more on a regular schedule, but if that's not possible, uh, at least you'll be hearing my dulcet tones, uh, or maybe if you don't like my tones, uh, whatever, but you'll hear some more from me. So I know there are some Irish people who are big fans of me, um, that are always asking Brendan about when is that guy coming back on?
00:03:32
Logan Howard
So I will be, they will love it. You know, I, I'm apparently hot.
00:03:34
BrendanThomasMarrett
Amen.
00:03:36
Logan Howard
I'm, I'm hot stuff with the YouTube community. Um, the YouTube community. Um,
00:03:45
Logan Howard
ah But as as you know, I'm not really about all that stuff. i But I do appreciate that you guys actually want to listen to the stuff we do. so um But anyway, 90 degrees to Fahrenheit to Celsius is 32 degrees Celsius.
00:04:04
Logan Howard
So I was way off.
00:04:05
BrendanThomasMarrett
That'd be great.
00:04:07
Logan Howard
50 degrees Celsius is way warmer than I thought. So I almost need this like on speed dial. Oh, brother. um But normally we are at like 15 degrees Celsius. Today I think was 15 degrees Celsius, but yeah.
00:04:26
Logan Howard
So it's going be jump up.
00:04:26
BrendanThomasMarrett
one
Review of 'House of David' Series
00:04:28
Logan Howard
going to be a jump up this week, but yeah.
00:04:28
BrendanThomasMarrett
i't know good
00:04:31
BrendanThomasMarrett
awesome
00:04:32
Logan Howard
Well, anyway, that was a really long introduction of Logan trying to figure out what Celsius is in Fahrenheit, and we've done that before. So we need to do something new.
00:04:40
BrendanThomasMarrett
Wow.
00:04:41
Logan Howard
And today we are going to be talking about ah or we talk about the House of David, which you have seen the title of this episode, the House of David Review. um And there are some things that, ah as watching it, I really enjoyed it, but the same time, it is not...
00:05:01
Logan Howard
100% accurate in terms of everything in there is a perfectly fit to the Bible. So we're going to talk about some of that. um but So in our opening thoughts, Brendan, what are your opening thoughts about the house of David? What did you think?
00:05:15
BrendanThomasMarrett
um You know what? I probably mentioned this several times, but I stopped watching TV and streaming services back in 2020 because virtually all of them were communist and crap. um And if I watch one or two a year, that is the absolute height of it.
00:05:37
BrendanThomasMarrett
um But when I heard of House of David, my initial reaction was...
00:05:43
BrendanThomasMarrett
Amazon Prime.
00:05:45
Logan Howard
yeah
00:05:46
BrendanThomasMarrett
You do have the worst reputation for destroying IPs, don't you? um So I said I would wait and see what other people thought before investing, wasting any of my precious unlimited time.
00:06:00
BrendanThomasMarrett
um But, you know, overall, people were like, yeah, it was good. it was worth it. So I said, OK, let's have a gander. So I got the month-long free subscription, checked it out.
00:06:11
BrendanThomasMarrett
And for whatever reason, I thought it had six episodes. So I watched three one day and I said, okay, happy days. so that That's enough for today. And then I said, okay, I'll watch the next three the next day.
00:06:24
BrendanThomasMarrett
And then realized that there were eight episodes. And I thought, goodness sakes. ah So I think I ended up until like 3am. I just watched Five of the Bouts of Back. Just so I could say that I'd finish the series.
00:06:36
BrendanThomasMarrett
Because didn't to be dragging out all week.
00:06:36
Logan Howard
Yeah.
00:06:41
BrendanThomasMarrett
And yeah you know what? Overall, actually, and there were things that I really liked. There were things that I thought... know let's say i know we're going to get into specifics in a moment, but let's say the
00:07:00
BrendanThomasMarrett
over-emphasis on, like, the female characters, for instance. I mean, I get, let's say, in The Prince of Egypt, you know, Zipporah runs around with Moses, and it's important he needs somebody to talk to, otherwise everything happens in his head, and that's not, doesn't make for a good movie.
00:07:15
Logan Howard
Yeah.
00:07:16
BrendanThomasMarrett
Um, so I understand it in terms of storytelling purposes. I get it. I think The Chosen has done it, um, as well, of course. Um, where, uh,
00:07:28
BrendanThomasMarrett
Jesus' disciples are going to be head fries or head wreckers, whichever you prefer. Which, in fairness, in Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, they were. um But I think sometimes the women are a bit overly virtuous at times.
00:07:41
Logan Howard
Yeah.
00:07:42
BrendanThomasMarrett
um And given lines just for the sake of having something to say. um Which kind of kind of feels like filler. So I thought there was little bit of that going on here.
00:07:50
Logan Howard
yeah
00:07:52
BrendanThomasMarrett
And again, we'll be looking the specifics in a moment. But... Then there are elements of it where I said, okay, in terms of storytelling purposes, where do I think that's going to go? think that's going fit in with that. I think they're going to use this and the next page for that and blah, blah.
00:08:07
BrendanThomasMarrett
So I could see what they were doing narratively, um but sometimes it felt like a bit too much fluff. Maybe some of the episodes felt unnecessarily long. um for little storylines that didn't really go anywhere just for the sake of giving the female actresses, well, actors are female, the actresses something to say.
00:08:29
Logan Howard
Mm-hmm.
00:08:29
BrendanThomasMarrett
So I'm all for depth and nuance in storytelling. I understand when you're adapting a story, it's not the same as a word-for-word adaptation.
00:08:40
BrendanThomasMarrett
You do need to draw the audience in. I totally get that. i also believe in honoring people's time, and I think maybe it was a bit too long, um needlessly long in places, but overall I'm i'm happy that I saw it, and I hope it gets a season two, and if they keep their heads screwed on, i hope it becomes a multi-part series with a very long and happy future.
00:09:05
Logan Howard
Yeah. That's lot.
00:09:06
BrendanThomasMarrett
Right here, gentlemen, before we get to the nitty-gritty.
00:09:09
Logan Howard
Yeah, i really enjoyed i really enjoyed it because like it was something very similar to you. I hadn't heard absolutely anything about it. And one day, you know, I have Amazon, but I don't, like, go on the streaming service very often.
00:09:17
BrendanThomasMarrett
Okay, sure.
00:09:23
Logan Howard
And usually, you know, my so my family ends up using it more often than really I do.
00:09:28
BrendanThomasMarrett
yeah
00:09:29
Logan Howard
um So I decided I was like, okay, I'll go on there and because I was needing wanted something to watch that evening. So I looked and I was like... What is that? House of David?
00:09:38
BrendanThomasMarrett
any
00:09:38
Logan Howard
I'm like, oh boy.
00:09:39
BrendanThomasMarrett
so ah for content for a podcast. It wasn't just innocuous coincidence. It was intentional for you.
00:09:46
BrendanThomasMarrett
misspoke.
00:09:46
Logan Howard
was intentional.
00:09:47
Logan Howard
Yeah.
00:09:48
BrendanThomasMarrett
Yeah.
00:09:48
Logan Howard
but So I just sat down and I watched it and I was like... I said, okay, I'll watch the first episode. And like if it's trash, I'll be done. right um Because it could be horrible. It could be great. So I sit down and watch it. And it like hooked me in after the first episode. Because the first episode is like really, really good.
00:10:07
Logan Howard
um In terms of there were line for line, word for word stuff that happened.
00:10:07
BrendanThomasMarrett
yeah
00:10:13
Logan Howard
that like Exactly how it says in the Bible. Which blew me away.
00:10:17
BrendanThomasMarrett
Yes.
00:10:17
Logan Howard
um And it's one of the stories that I really appreciate of... I don't want to say it's a favorite story because it's not a good, it's not a great story in terms of, oh, watch Samuel, um, like turn, not turn, but, you know, tell Saul off.
00:10:35
Logan Howard
Um, but at the same time, it shows how much Samuel loved Saul and how heartbreaking that was.
00:10:41
BrendanThomasMarrett
yeah
00:10:43
Logan Howard
Um, and, So I thought the first episode was great. And so I was like, oh, I'll watch some more. So the next day, I think, was a Saturday, and it had been a rainy day all day.
00:10:54
Logan Howard
well And so I had, like, nothing to do. My schedule was pretty clear. And I was like, I'll just sit down and watch an episode. Well, next thing I know, it's like 8 o'clock at night, and I have like two episodes left. I've watched now five in a row or something like that. And I went, oh my goodness, what just happened? But it was so like gripping, like watching it, and it was and engaging. So i was like, okay, well, all right, we're going to save the last two with Goliath, David versus Goliath. We'll watch that another time. So...
00:11:24
Logan Howard
Then um but but this whole time my dad had sat and watched for these this section of episodes and he was like enthralled too. And so it wasn't but a day or two more and he's like, hey, do you want to watch this those last two episodes? Because that was really good.
00:11:40
Logan Howard
So we sat and we watched and enjoyed the last two episodes. But yeah, we don't need to get into nitty gritty of it yet. But it was for me, it was a very enjoyable time. and um There's very few things that I would say in storytelling nowadays that grab my attention and get me to like sit there and watch.
00:11:58
BrendanThomasMarrett
yeah
00:12:02
Logan Howard
Um, and I know for some people they are big binge watchers. I am not a huge binge watcher person. I kind of feel either gross or weird about after a while, but this was one that kind of just like enraptured me. And there's very few stories that do that, but there, there are a few and that this was definitely one of them.
00:12:19
Logan Howard
So, um, yeah, Alright, so what would you say was the best part of the movie, Brendan? What was the the part that you enjoyed the most?
00:12:30
BrendanThomasMarrett
I already liked the last episode in particular. And I'll be honest, I liked the foreshadow. um Which is interesting, because it's another thing that i didn't like throughout.
00:12:44
BrendanThomasMarrett
But I liked the foreshadowing the first minute or two. You see David in the battlefield, running towards Goliath. Guys, this may be riddled with spoilers. If you haven't seen it, watch the show, then come back and watch this. Because we're just going to say it as it is. yeah This is a tell-all.
00:12:59
Logan Howard
i mean I mean, it's been a thousand years since the story came out, like thousands of years.
00:13:01
BrendanThomasMarrett
yeah
00:13:04
Logan Howard
So like if you don't know the story of David and Goliath, you probably should... you know But I get it. Yeah, the video part is a new thing. So yeah, yeah. Yeah.
00:13:13
BrendanThomasMarrett
and It's like he dies in the end. He dies.
00:13:16
Logan Howard
okay
00:13:16
BrendanThomasMarrett
ka i Like it in the first minute or two, you know, David gets stabbed with a spear.
00:13:25
BrendanThomasMarrett
And you know what? Of course you have people in the body of Christ would have gotten that far and then turn it off and say, you know, that didn't happen. then our other brothers and sisters would have said,
00:13:38
BrendanThomasMarrett
Well, the Bible never says it didn't happen.
00:13:43
Logan Howard
Yeah.
00:13:43
BrendanThomasMarrett
We know David wins, but know, did he get it? who Who knows? Who can really say? But I said, listen, it's a TV show. Go big or go home.
00:13:55
BrendanThomasMarrett
And they said, let's go big. um And overall, actually, and the final episode, when they kind of harken back to that and that old story of 1 Samuel 17,
00:14:07
BrendanThomasMarrett
um Overall, I thought they did it very very well, actually. um You kind of get a sense of the enormity of Goliath. It is live up to his name. He's not just a very tall man.
00:14:20
BrendanThomasMarrett
They do go into the supernatural origins there. um
00:14:24
Logan Howard
Yeah.
00:14:25
BrendanThomasMarrett
And yeah, either there's a real sense of threat. You know, Goliath, for a story like that's so world-renowned... Goliath is a blink and you miss them kind of character in the Bible.
00:14:38
BrendanThomasMarrett
Everything else David goes through almost eclipses um the confrontation with Goliath.
00:14:39
Logan Howard
yeah
00:14:45
BrendanThomasMarrett
So actually getting a full season's worth of the drama and suspense, um I think is is fair.
00:14:51
Logan Howard
yeah
00:14:51
BrendanThomasMarrett
Because he was that big of a threat. um But um yeah, I think they they did that story particularly well.
00:15:01
Logan Howard
Yeah.
00:15:02
BrendanThomasMarrett
about yourself?
00:15:03
Logan Howard
ah i So i think I think that was well done. i think the, um i like I i said the in my introduction, like I thought the first episode was amazing, especially the Saul and Samuel confrontation.
00:15:15
BrendanThomasMarrett
and right
00:15:19
BrendanThomasMarrett
Yes.
00:15:19
Logan Howard
um And it made me think about it in a different and deeper way than I think I've ever thought of it before. um Because, again, if you think about it, Saul was raised by Samuel.
00:15:25
BrendanThomasMarrett
Hmm.
00:15:29
Logan Howard
Like, Samuel taught him and was, like, teaching him how to be king and how to rule the nation and how to become a king. And then here you have Saul that is really kicking off that he thinks it's all about his house.
00:15:42
Logan Howard
that he's this great thing and he's this great person and he can do whatever he wants.
00:15:42
BrendanThomasMarrett
Hmm.
00:15:49
Logan Howard
um And sure, he throws Samuel the excuse of, well, the people, the people, um really, he wanted that victory.
00:15:54
BrendanThomasMarrett
Yeah.
00:15:57
Logan Howard
He wanted to be able to bask in the glory of it. And Samuel just is like, God's turned his face on you. And then to just see Saul start to like,
00:16:09
Logan Howard
like fade. And then, um, then truthfully, I've always loved that Samuel's just like, where, where is the, where is the, the, the King that I'm going to slice and cut up like that.
00:16:10
BrendanThomasMarrett
yeah
00:16:24
Logan Howard
God, that's amazing. Like that story is just like, that makes it, it, it gives you that like, Let's go as like a Christian because too often than not, because we live in the age of grace, we're told, well, just take it. Just take the punishment. Just take it. But Samuel's like, I'm going to fight for God. Like literally God said, you got to kill all these people, take out the king.
00:16:45
Logan Howard
And so I'm packing this brother to pieces in front of everybody. Um,
00:16:49
BrendanThomasMarrett
right.
00:16:50
Logan Howard
ah So that was that was really cool to see. And also in that first episode was starting to see the character of Jonathan, um which was a huge blessing. Because that guy, I mean, i've but I've always felt like, well, Jonathan has some stories and things that happened before David's timeline.
00:16:59
BrendanThomasMarrett
Hmm.
00:17:11
Logan Howard
Yeah. Really, we all know him. Oh, he's like David's mentor, and he's like David's friend and everything. But you have to think about, in that context, he's supposed to be king.
00:17:22
Logan Howard
Like, why would he ever help somebody else? And so, like, they start to build his character of how this guy is a man who actually is seeking after God.
00:17:25
BrendanThomasMarrett
Yeah.
00:17:30
Logan Howard
Sure, God doesn't speak to him. God doesn't have that... And I think that's what makes it so sad about Saul's mistakes is Saul cost his son, who his son was a man who God would probably have been proud of to be a king.
00:17:45
BrendanThomasMarrett
possibly
00:17:45
Logan Howard
But because Saul screwed up, Jonathan was cost that. So,
Portrayal of Women in the Series
00:17:52
Logan Howard
yeah. So, um who would you what would you say was the thing you liked least about the show? Like, what was the thing that you were like, did not like that?
00:18:02
BrendanThomasMarrett
and
00:18:08
BrendanThomasMarrett
Ladies, ladies, ladies, don't get upset with me. I'm sorry, saying, you know, oh, Brendan hates women, that's kind of crap.
00:18:13
Logan Howard
Here we go.
00:18:18
BrendanThomasMarrett
do. I don't care. or I love you're But i don't care love be here
00:18:26
Logan Howard
is He's never going to get married at this.
00:18:27
BrendanThomasMarrett
ah
00:18:29
Logan Howard
What's about to come out of his mouth?
00:18:30
BrendanThomasMarrett
You have to validate your opinions.
00:18:32
Logan Howard
but It will play at his wedding if it happens. ah This is what Brendan thinks about women.
00:18:39
BrendanThomasMarrett
Turn the nose. Repeat after me. It's like, no, she will repeat after me.
00:18:50
BrendanThomasMarrett
The women were very inconsistent. um I don't know who wrote each episode. um Maybe I could be really cheeky and look it up now.
00:19:02
BrendanThomasMarrett
But it sounded like it was written by a show. sounded like the show was written by men who didn't understand women. Hold on. I'm just being really, really... Nargy.
00:19:15
BrendanThomasMarrett
And if I can find this quickly, great. And if I can't, that's okay too. um Okay, episode written by John Nathan, ND.
00:19:27
BrendanThomasMarrett
Can I assume ND is a man?
00:19:30
Logan Howard
Probably.
00:19:31
BrendanThomasMarrett
Yes, his name is Nathan. Nathan David, a super name. Episode two, a John and a John.
00:19:39
BrendanThomasMarrett
an Indy again. Episode three, a John and a Bika. I don't know what Bika is. Okay, episode five is a Lara. Fair enough. Six is Jonathan. They do love hiring Johns and Jonathans.
00:19:52
BrendanThomasMarrett
um Yeah, okay. Sure, right lots and lots of guy writers.
00:19:58
BrendanThomasMarrett
The women didn't sound like they were written by women. They didn't feel like they were written by men who understood women. um So let's say Ahanoam, Saul's wife, loved her.
00:20:10
BrendanThomasMarrett
I love that actress in general. I'm probably going butcher the pronunciation of her name. Ayala Deserber. She played Vanessa, and the Kingpin's woman, in the Netflix's Daredevil.
00:20:21
BrendanThomasMarrett
I do not dignify Disney Plus's Daredevil. Doesn't exist, in my opinion.
00:20:25
Logan Howard
Thank
00:20:26
BrendanThomasMarrett
But the Daredevil series, she was just fabulous as Vanessa, really and truly.
00:20:30
Logan Howard
you.
00:20:33
BrendanThomasMarrett
um And I really liked seeing her as Sol's wife this time around. But in terms of the daughters, I'm sorry, why was Merab there?
00:20:45
BrendanThomasMarrett
Like, what was her personality? At times, she seems very queenly and very uppity.
00:20:53
BrendanThomasMarrett
And then there are times when she just, like, she's invited to speak to the peasants and just has like nothing to say. Like she's shy and timid. Or then there are times, let's say, when she's like, you know, almost like looking down on the peasant class. That's kind of how I saw it.
00:21:08
Logan Howard
Yeah.
00:21:09
BrendanThomasMarrett
And then there are other times when we're supposed to think that she's this like, you know, amazing philanthropic. um The world is my oyster and I love your people. And I was like,
00:21:20
BrendanThomasMarrett
and Pick a lane. it's It's a TV show. You don't have to be that nuanced. You don't need that many... That multi-perspectival element about you. It's okay to be a little flat.
00:21:34
BrendanThomasMarrett
It's a TV show and it's only got eight episodes. If want character development, save it for season two. Um... And on the flip side, Macal... Was a bit too perfect for my liking.
00:21:47
BrendanThomasMarrett
um I understand they want to push the romance, the first of David's many love stories, but I'm sorry, I've read the Bible.
00:21:55
Logan Howard
Uh,
00:21:58
BrendanThomasMarrett
i know who how she turns out and who she becomes. You don't have to convince me that she's that great of a woman. Even one or two moments where you kind of see a more selfish or um manipulative streak in her might actually have been to the better.
00:22:16
BrendanThomasMarrett
But she kind of seemed like, oh, I can read and I'll teach him how to read. Oh, I'm the princess who can't talk to i you're the musician, but I'm going to i'm gonna steal away. I'm going to do this.
00:22:28
BrendanThomasMarrett
Oh, daddy is on the war and front and he's in his tent and he's demon possessed. Come, Merab, let us ride to him. Only we can save him.
00:22:39
BrendanThomasMarrett
um How did their being there contribute to to his wellness?
00:22:45
Logan Howard
She was there for the romance.
00:22:45
BrendanThomasMarrett
Like, oh,
00:22:47
Logan Howard
The scene.
00:22:49
BrendanThomasMarrett
Precisely. but but But pretending that she was going to help her father when really her only contribution actually was to finally have you know a kiss with David and put him in armor.
00:22:50
Logan Howard
Yeah.
00:22:59
BrendanThomasMarrett
He took off like two seconds later. This inconsistent characterization. And, you know, it's Saul's wife bringing the witch in.
00:23:13
BrendanThomasMarrett
Great. Very good. Because when David later runs away from Saul and the word of God, we are told that Michal puts an idol in his bed and dresses up as him.
00:23:27
BrendanThomasMarrett
So there is witchcraft going on in Saul's house, biblically.
00:23:31
Logan Howard
Mm-hmm.
00:23:32
BrendanThomasMarrett
And to put the blame on the wife who steps up to keep, make it look like the house of Saul isn't sinking. Super. Wonderful. Great. But the daughters were written far less consistently. And I'll be honest, Eliab was as well.
00:23:49
BrendanThomasMarrett
There's that show that the Chosen people churned out, Angel Studios, um where Eliab appears an episode.
00:23:49
Logan Howard
me
00:23:57
BrendanThomasMarrett
And it's this animation of David, and it's lovely, and it's happy, and it's great, and whatever. um But Eliab, there seems to be this bend towards filmmakers to make him seem nicer than he was.
00:24:12
Logan Howard
Yeah.
00:24:12
BrendanThomasMarrett
Where it's like, you know, okay, he's harsh and he's serious and he he's nasty. He's a bully. But he's actually a really sweetie pie Why? the show's got eight episodes and at first time we're 17, he does not put his best foot forward.
00:24:29
BrendanThomasMarrett
So, you know, i will kill you, brother, to save you from Goliath. A lovely line. All for it. But why so many redeeming qualities before then? what That would have been so much more impactful if that was the first glimpse of brotherly love that we'd ever seen in him.
00:24:47
BrendanThomasMarrett
But actually too inconsistent. Is he a bully or are we supposed to vouch for him? um I can say the same with Jesse and David's mother. It has been for thousands of years predicted that David was born adultery.
00:25:03
BrendanThomasMarrett
That is not new. In sin i was born, I was conceived in iniquity. um The psalm where he speaks about his parents and siblings despising him.
00:25:15
BrendanThomasMarrett
It's long been rumoured. They do it, teachers even have taught that for centuries upon centuries. And I thought, okay, he was born of adultery, you know, um a woman with loose morals and and yada, yada, yada.
00:25:29
BrendanThomasMarrett
But then in the last episode, they trial it was like, oh, well no no, no, no, no. She actually was his wife just later on after his first wife was dead. No.
00:25:40
BrendanThomasMarrett
If you want the woman to be a whore, let her be a whore. Let her be a homewrecker. um But don't try to backpedal. Don't try to backtrack. If you have a story, stick to it.
00:25:51
BrendanThomasMarrett
You only have eight episodes. It's not like a TV show where you had 24 episodes per season and you had the ability to have all these you know surprises and rewrites and, oh, you taught this, well, actually this.
00:26:06
BrendanThomasMarrett
You've only given yourself eight episodes. Don't confuse us. Have a story. Stick to your story. Be consistent. Shake things up in season two.
00:26:18
BrendanThomasMarrett
But we need to know, like, we feel these characters. You haven't given us a lot of time. So don't give them five different personalities per show.
00:26:30
BrendanThomasMarrett
Over to you. Because that is what ticked me off the most.
00:26:31
Logan Howard
Fair. Yeah.
00:26:34
BrendanThomasMarrett
Inconsistent characters. say And not just the women. Not just the women.
00:26:37
Logan Howard
Yeah. I think they did a lot. there There were certain things in the show that did sort of drag on for unnecessary reasons.
00:26:47
BrendanThomasMarrett
Yeah.
00:26:47
Logan Howard
Like, why why did they have to have Jonathan go to the same city and then somehow Eliab and David then have to go to that same city?
00:26:58
BrendanThomasMarrett
Yes.
00:26:58
Logan Howard
Like, that didn't make much sense to me. Like, other than the only thing I could think of is that maybe that was so David knew that there were giants that existed. But again, why do I, as the audience, need to see that?
00:27:12
Logan Howard
Like, I don't understand that.
00:27:14
BrendanThomasMarrett
Sure.
00:27:14
Logan Howard
I think that was just a ah filler thing. um I think that there was some of the some of the characters... like So, Eshbal is not mentioned but once, I think, in the Bible. He is not mentioned much at all.
00:27:32
Logan Howard
um And I think it'll be interesting to see how do they handle him now being crowned king. Again, spoilers. um At the end of the... end of the show, because that is not mentioned anywhere in the Bible.
00:27:45
Logan Howard
So, like, there is a huge possibility for this to go completely right hook off into something chaotic zone, because it's not following the linear story.
00:27:56
Logan Howard
And ah it makes sense why he why they did that situation in the story, right?
00:27:57
BrendanThomasMarrett
Amen.
00:28:01
Logan Howard
You're thinking, wow, Israel's surrounded, they're going to die, the King Saul's going mad, um and the Queen doesn't know anything better, so... Here we go. We'll make this guy king.
00:28:12
Logan Howard
But it doesn't really make sense in logic of just accept that you're going to die, right? Because if you're already surrounded, why try to make yourself king? And maybe maybe that was just his manipulative way of trying to become king.
00:28:26
Logan Howard
But it's not going to go well for him.
00:28:27
BrendanThomasMarrett
Yes.
00:28:29
Logan Howard
Let's just say that. That's not going to go well. Especially when Saul is very... tight fist about his throne. Um, the, the last thing that, uh, for me, I don't think reflected the character.
00:28:37
BrendanThomasMarrett
yeah
00:28:45
Logan Howard
i can see why they made this option, this choice, but I didn't feel like it was a good reflection on David's character was when at night he meets Saul in the middle of the hallway and they have this conversation and Saul almost acts like he's Jonathan.
00:28:56
BrendanThomasMarrett
Yeah.
00:29:00
Logan Howard
um But then realizes he's the shepherd boy and then explains to him, like, that was, it was cool how that scene was, how he talked about my son and he explained how you'll be king one day.
00:29:12
Logan Howard
And so there was like a cool element to that. But then after Saul leaves, you see David go and sit on the throne.
00:29:19
BrendanThomasMarrett
Hated this.
00:29:20
Logan Howard
And then Michal sees him sit on the throne.
00:29:21
BrendanThomasMarrett
Hated. Yeah.
00:29:24
BrendanThomasMarrett
Hmm.
00:29:25
Logan Howard
And again, both of those things, they were never touched on later on. right That was never mentioned.
00:29:31
BrendanThomasMarrett
Try it.
00:29:31
Logan Howard
So maybe that's mentioned in season two. But I think that's a problem. Because I don't think David would have done that. When David is so... Like, I'm not going to kill Saul later on. I'm not going to kill him. I'm not going to take out the Lord's anointed.
00:29:46
Logan Howard
He has a deep conviction of God has put Saul here.
00:29:46
BrendanThomasMarrett
Yeah.
00:29:50
Logan Howard
I'm not going to be the guy who takes Saul out. Even though he has every right to because he's the Lord's anointed. He could have gone full, I'm the king, put me in charge.
00:29:55
BrendanThomasMarrett
Hmm.
00:29:59
Logan Howard
um
00:29:59
BrendanThomasMarrett
Yeah.
00:30:01
Logan Howard
But he did not do that. So... That was the thing that kind of that bothered me a little bit. That he would be invited to sit on the throne. And I think if he had when he had been invited, that would have been an okay time for him to sit on the throne.
00:30:16
Logan Howard
Even though it would have been right in front of Saul, and Saul probably would have killed him immediately.
00:30:16
BrendanThomasMarrett
I still... Yeah. Hmm.
00:30:20
Logan Howard
um Or heard that voice of the Amalekite, or Agog, saying, He's trying to steal your throne.
00:30:25
BrendanThomasMarrett
Hmm.
00:30:28
BrendanThomasMarrett
Hmm.
00:30:28
Logan Howard
He's from Judah.
00:30:29
Logan Howard
Um...
00:30:31
BrendanThomasMarrett
Yeah. Hmm.
00:30:34
Logan Howard
um But that would have been something. Like if he just offered, if Saul offered and he just sat there. But when he sat on it when Saul was gone, that kind of bothered me a little bit.
00:30:43
BrendanThomasMarrett
yeah
00:30:46
Logan Howard
But...
00:30:46
BrendanThomasMarrett
Yeah, I completely agree. And I think that was probably my least favorite scene in the entire show because I thought he wouldn't.
00:30:52
Logan Howard
Yeah.
00:30:55
BrendanThomasMarrett
He wouldn't have. And I think that was something that the show did way too often that I did not like. And you've used the word filler a couple times is for those who have read the Bible.
00:31:12
BrendanThomasMarrett
We know what's coming in many respects. um yes, we can forget things and you go back and you're oh my goodness, I never thought that before. But like we we know the general storyline about David.
00:31:22
BrendanThomasMarrett
That's all.
Critique on Foreshadowing and Pacing
00:31:24
BrendanThomasMarrett
And I think the... Logan's typing right now. It's like, what happens to David? What happens to Saul?
00:31:30
Logan Howard
No. no Great.
00:31:33
BrendanThomasMarrett
Does David survive his fight with Goliath?
00:31:38
BrendanThomasMarrett
But they relied way too much on foreshadowing, which I did not like. um Things like, you know, oh, David is a lion, and yes, he's brave and amazing, but there's also an element of danger.
00:31:52
BrendanThomasMarrett
okay the whole thing about Sheba and Uriah, it's not great. I think we can all agree on that. um When Satan tempts him to count his army, and then Joab is like, why are you doing this?
00:32:05
BrendanThomasMarrett
And he never actually tells us in the entire Bible. We can only assume he was gathering an army for not a very nice reason. um Yes, there are moments when he screwed up big time, but he would always come back to the Lord.
00:32:20
BrendanThomasMarrett
um So I think this, you know, oh, is David actually going to go dark side? Overdone. Maybe a little bit unfair. um But all the time that they spent hinting at that and him sitting on the throne was part of it.
00:32:34
Logan Howard
Yeah.
00:32:35
BrendanThomasMarrett
Was time that either could have been cut entirely or given towards something else.
00:32:40
Logan Howard
yeah
00:32:41
BrendanThomasMarrett
Or you had like people, like every second person's having dreams and visions of like you know the war that ultimately kills Jonathan and Saul. But if you wanted fight, why not just put the money and the time that went into all those special effects into like you know even smaller scale battles of just showing the Philistines closing in or something, rather than hinting at something when they had no intention of going beyond 1 Samuel 17.
00:33:11
BrendanThomasMarrett
Let's be honest, Broski. Didn't even get to the very end of First Sample 17. And that's another problem that I have, which we'll come back to. um in the In the scope of the whole show, i sound like I hated it. I did enjoy it.
00:33:24
BrendanThomasMarrett
I have to remind myself of that. i just Because I watched it like weeks ago, and I just haven't had anyone to talk to but about it yet. They're the first one, so you're getting the the word vomit.
00:33:34
Logan Howard
Yep. Yep. Mm-hmm.
00:33:35
BrendanThomasMarrett
um But there were things that say that that was time it could have been cut and gone back into my week or could have been devoted to something else.
00:33:46
BrendanThomasMarrett
But it was too much like, you know, oh, stick with us till the end of season one to see if this happens. And then you don't even get to the very end of first Samuel 17. It's like, oh, stick with us until season two and you might see some of that happen.
00:34:01
BrendanThomasMarrett
It's no, If it's not going to happen, it's not actually really and truly necessary.
00:34:03
Logan Howard
Yeah.
00:34:07
BrendanThomasMarrett
We don't need to see it.
00:34:09
Logan Howard
Yeah.
00:34:09
BrendanThomasMarrett
You want to be a political drama, make it a political drama. You don't have to have prophetic dreams every five minutes just to keep us hooked. David is the host.
00:34:17
Logan Howard
what yeah
00:34:19
BrendanThomasMarrett
a person in the Bible after Jesus, unless I'm sorely mistaken. There's a lot of material that's already there. You don't have to keep telling us what's going to happen and tease us.
00:34:31
BrendanThomasMarrett
Just trust that we're enjoying the show enough without all your foreshadowing and your hinting and your teasing.
00:34:38
Logan Howard
yeah Or the Nathaniel scene where he's pleading not to go to war. Please, Dad, don't send me to war! Or he's like, alright, David, yes! You killed those things! You go out there and fight him!
00:34:54
BrendanThomasMarrett
Nathaniel was the one with the walking stick, right? Because he had like polio or something.
00:34:58
Logan Howard
I think so, yeah.
00:35:01
Logan Howard
Something. He was trying to get out of going to war, but yeah. um He's an absolute bum.
00:35:04
BrendanThomasMarrett
That's about
00:35:08
Logan Howard
Those were funny scenes, but at the same time, it's like, we don't need that.
00:35:11
BrendanThomasMarrett
to be funny because I did actually juggle.
00:35:14
Logan Howard
I did too.
00:35:14
BrendanThomasMarrett
um i And God love him. I think the actor was giving it socks.
00:35:18
Logan Howard
There we was, yeah.
00:35:19
BrendanThomasMarrett
Everything he had. But I did think it was... A little unmanly and pathetic.
00:35:29
Logan Howard
All right, so who was your favorite character in the show?
00:35:34
BrendanThomasMarrett
I do think Michael, again, I'm probably going butcher the surname here, Exander, did a very good job as David. I had a sneaky suspicion I'd seen him before, but and maybe I hadn't.
00:35:46
Logan Howard
Yeah, he seemed familiar.
00:35:47
BrendanThomasMarrett
I decided
00:35:47
Logan Howard
Yeah.
00:35:48
BrendanThomasMarrett
e and it's very, very short. I think he had like an episode on the Kelly Clarkson show. Bastion of Christian morality, though she is.
00:36:01
BrendanThomasMarrett
I don't know. maybe Maybe he just has one of those faces um where I kind of thought there are times I really liked his character, his portrayal of David.
00:36:05
Logan Howard
Maybe.
00:36:14
BrendanThomasMarrett
And even let's say with him going to That city, shall we say. I like the idea of Eliab saying, oh, you know, you're you're you're so high and mighty, you know, you want to be in the fight and defend Israel.
00:36:25
BrendanThomasMarrett
Okay, well, let me show you actually what a battle team looks like. you want to see what a corpse looks like?
00:36:30
Logan Howard
What
00:36:30
BrendanThomasMarrett
um In theory, I kind of like that idea. And then another thing I didn't like, because it was a story that went nowhere, was then Eliab got shot. And the very next episode, he was fine.
00:36:41
BrendanThomasMarrett
And even though like you know they were so far away from their home in Bethlehem, it's like, how did he survive? ah yeah that he didn't even pray that he would be fine. He was just...
00:36:51
Logan Howard
but
00:36:52
BrendanThomasMarrett
He just managed to try his brother all the way home and keep him alive.
00:36:57
Logan Howard
didn't yeah Didn't he drag him all the way home and then they pull the arrow out and then they burn him, like brandish him so that the wound's sealed?
00:37:05
BrendanThomasMarrett
Yeah, but I kind of thought from like the distance between the battle scene where he got shot, or okay, he just left and then he got shot, all way back to his house in Bethlehem, I thought,
00:37:17
BrendanThomasMarrett
it's a bit of a trick. It's a bit of a trick. um
00:37:21
Logan Howard
i thought they were going to kill him off.
00:37:21
BrendanThomasMarrett
Did he have a trick? Yes, he did. No. It would have been Nathaniel then who criticizes him. You know, you're conceited, you know, in the first episode of 17. Spoiler alert.
00:37:32
BrendanThomasMarrett
Fucking plot twist. um So, again, I did like the show. Things like that, I thought, okay.
00:37:41
BrendanThomasMarrett
Maybe that was more timing. You didn't really understand the scope of of the world, perhaps.
00:37:45
Logan Howard
Yeah.
00:37:46
BrendanThomasMarrett
um But in terms of characterization, I do think he gave it socks as David Godlovin. But I just think what they did with Ahinoam, Saul's wife, and his mother, was the most original.
00:37:55
Logan Howard
Hmm.
00:37:58
BrendanThomasMarrett
Because to be honest, maybe I'm wrong. I haven't read for Samuel lyn in maybe five, six months, from cover to cover. Although I have started teaching on Sundays. I've gone back to the very start.
00:38:13
BrendanThomasMarrett
Um... I don't remember seeing her in Bible stories per se. I know Saul makes a reference to her when he is giving out to Jonathan. And when he thinks Jonathan has betrayed him for David, he does make some kind of reference. Like, you know, you're the son of a prostitute or the son of a whore or something.
00:38:31
BrendanThomasMarrett
Which is... pretty harsh as far as biblical language goes. um But in the say in the case of having like you know a a woman character, but actually doing something with her, and she was written consistently, where she was definitely not a godly woman.
00:38:49
Logan Howard
yeah
00:38:49
BrendanThomasMarrett
She turned to occultic sorcery and the likes, and you just see the absolute... and disgusting carry-on that she and the witch were getting up to and how it really grieved Jonathan in particular to see his mother getting into into all this.
00:39:08
Logan Howard
Yeah.
00:39:08
BrendanThomasMarrett
I thought that was very good so and for the character they had for her, very consistent. And I would have liked if they'd had that consistency with everybody. So, yeah, the guy for David gave it socks, but in terms of being the best written and in a way that surprised me, I know him.
00:39:18
Logan Howard
Yeah.
00:39:26
Logan Howard
Yeah. um I think the character that I liked the most was Samuel. He was hilarious.
00:39:33
BrendanThomasMarrett
He was a wild prophet. I like him.
00:39:35
Logan Howard
He was a wild prophet. the My favorite, oh, God, it's funny.
00:39:43
Logan Howard
David's just standing there and he's like, oh God, it's funny. Yeah.
00:39:47
BrendanThomasMarrett
Yeah. Yeah.
00:39:49
Logan Howard
oh And his interactions with his wife and then um when Jonathan comes to visit him and he like tries to beat the crap out Jonathan and they're wrestling on the ground.
00:40:00
BrendanThomasMarrett
Yeah.
00:40:02
Logan Howard
Or when he visits David and yeah, he's his, his the the the character was, um the guy who created him was was great in terms of the guy who played him did a great job and um
00:40:15
BrendanThomasMarrett
yes
00:40:16
Logan Howard
You could see he could be serious. He could be a little bit silly and ridiculous. um And he very well fit into that role of being the prophet of Israel and having the wisdom, but also being an enjoyable person too witness.
00:40:32
BrendanThomasMarrett
and
00:40:33
Logan Howard
um So i really liked I really liked Samuel's character. um Honestly, I kind of ah kind of liked how they made Agag... like
00:40:45
BrendanThomasMarrett
The demon.
00:40:45
Logan Howard
Saul's tormentor that that blew my mind because they talked about the this demonic spirit that came over him and I was like okay so like I'd never sat down and thought about what that could have been like but it makes complete sense that the the the demonic would speak in that kind of that guy's voice and um
00:40:47
BrendanThomasMarrett
Yeah. Very clever. Yeah.
00:40:56
BrendanThomasMarrett
Yeah.
00:41:04
BrendanThomasMarrett
Yeah.
00:41:12
Logan Howard
i thought I thought the character who played Saul did a good job of portraying Saul, and especially when he was mad and when he was trying to work his way out of his madness, and then when he was trying to be great, like that guy played the role perfectly. So there were a lot of good roles. I liked Ahenoham. How do you pronounce her name?
00:41:36
Logan Howard
Ahenoham?
00:41:36
BrendanThomasMarrett
With confidence.
00:41:37
Logan Howard
What's that?
00:41:38
BrendanThomasMarrett
With confidence.
00:41:39
Logan Howard
With confidence. Ahenoham. I liked her character because she was she was protecting her kingdom and doing her best to protect her house and her queendom.
00:41:48
BrendanThomasMarrett
Or her queendom that I'm talking about.
00:41:51
BrendanThomasMarrett
yeah
00:41:51
Logan Howard
Yeah.
00:41:52
Logan Howard
And...
00:41:53
BrendanThomasMarrett
forget I cut that forget I said I'm not one of those people it makes a female version of every word
00:41:54
Logan Howard
Yeah. Um...
00:42:01
Logan Howard
Yeah, and as far as somebody you were not supposed to like was Doeg, which I liked kind of how they tied him into the story as well. Um...
00:42:09
BrendanThomasMarrett
yes early yeah killing all the taxidermy and being like a scientist yeah it was good good
00:42:11
Logan Howard
And he was pretty pretty intense as a character. Yeah.
00:42:19
Logan Howard
yeah Yeah, and then you know killing the killing Samuel's assistant. and Yeah, that was... They did a good job of using him as a character. They probably used him too much when he went and killed ah the woman on ah Orpha, ah Goliath's mom.
00:42:38
BrendanThomasMarrett
Yeah, so we'll come back to have some thoughts, yeah.
00:42:38
Logan Howard
That... That was probably a little too far because they were using too much of him, but um I can see as a mercenary person, and um there are some things that they're going to struggle with in future seasons, like the fact that they've made this relationship with McCall and ah Michael and ah David so huge that when David marries all these other women, like how do they not feel like, wow, David's just a jerk?
00:43:05
Logan Howard
of yeah And, um but I would love to see them get to the point where you have Doeg, like, booing David as he's leaving the kingdom.
00:43:16
Logan Howard
Like, that would be pretty wild to witness.
00:43:19
BrendanThomasMarrett
yeah
00:43:20
Logan Howard
Um, so there, there are a lot of things that they can go in a really good way. And there's some things that you're like, um, this is going to be a problem if you don't fix this down the line.
Character Consistency Discussion
00:43:31
BrendanThomasMarrett
Indeed. Yeah. yeah
00:43:33
Logan Howard
So who is your least favorite character? The character that if they just disappeared from the show, it would have maybe been a better show.
00:43:41
BrendanThomasMarrett
You just said something there that I need to check. Hold on a second.
00:43:48
Logan Howard
Something about Doegg?
00:43:52
BrendanThomasMarrett
Oh, so yeah sorry. oh yeah yeah yeah Yeah, sorry. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. and Yeah. When you said Doeg booing David, I was like, oh my goodness, when David gets chased at the kingdom by Absalom, is it Doeg who boos him? i was like, what? And i was like, oh no, it's Shimi. I was like, how did I never see that before? It's because it's not there.
00:44:10
BrendanThomasMarrett
I just misunderstood what you were saying.
00:44:12
Logan Howard
what
00:44:12
BrendanThomasMarrett
um
00:44:13
Logan Howard
What was I saying then?
00:44:16
BrendanThomasMarrett
Were you talking about the thing with Absalom?
00:44:19
Logan Howard
was So there I think it's once or twice that David has this, when he's on a journey, Doeg is the one.
00:44:26
BrendanThomasMarrett
Okay, okay, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, because I know he'll play a big part in killing the priests probably in season two.
00:44:32
Logan Howard
Yes. Yeah.
00:44:33
BrendanThomasMarrett
Assuming they had three more chapters in season two than they did in season one.
00:44:37
Logan Howard
Assuming, yeah.
00:44:38
BrendanThomasMarrett
But yes, he he did look very threatening. I liked, he was well cast, well dressed, but I liked the
00:44:41
Logan Howard
They did a good job of that. Yeah.
00:44:46
BrendanThomasMarrett
and
00:44:48
BrendanThomasMarrett
ah presence he brought to the screen, I did.
00:44:52
Logan Howard
Yeah. So who was your least favorite character?
00:44:55
BrendanThomasMarrett
Oh. didn't think it would just be extracted from it. I'll be honest, I did like Jonathan's brother. i liked how unlikable he was.
00:45:07
BrendanThomasMarrett
But in terms what he actually brought to the show, ah yeah yeah i think he could cut all of his scenes and nothing would have been lost. Because there was this big mystery, like, you know, after, you know they kick him out, and then there's suddenly he's back again.
00:45:23
BrendanThomasMarrett
You will never know what I've been through, mother. Well, that's because we didn't see what you were through.
00:45:31
BrendanThomasMarrett
And it's one of those where... yeah i don't know... how much that actually contributes to the story.
00:45:42
BrendanThomasMarrett
i think Marab just ticked me off. Far too inconsistent. um It's okay to have, you know, lovely sister and and and and ah an ugly sister on the inside.
00:45:58
BrendanThomasMarrett
um But I don't don't think they knew what they wanted from her in particular. I think and she was most poorly and inconsistently written.
00:46:10
BrendanThomasMarrett
Yeah.
00:46:13
BrendanThomasMarrett
But the thing is, there were things I liked about all the characters and there were things that ticked me off about them all. But it wasn't to do with the right that the the acting, it was to do the writing. Like for Samuel, for instance, superbly cast, the first episode.
00:46:22
Logan Howard
minute.
00:46:27
BrendanThomasMarrett
Yeah, I mean, wow, he was awesome. um But then you have, let's say, the first Samuel 16 chapter where he goes to Jesse's house And I would have liked if he had just looked Eliab in the eye and said, God's rejected you.
00:46:46
BrendanThomasMarrett
God sees what's in your heart and he hates it and just stormed off to the next one. Whereas again, he it was a very watered down brush off because he tried so hard to make Eliab more well-rounded and relatable and sympathetic.
00:46:55
Logan Howard
Hmm.
00:46:57
Logan Howard
yeah
00:47:04
BrendanThomasMarrett
So there are things about all the characters that ticked me off, but it wasn't the character's fault.
00:47:10
Logan Howard
and
00:47:10
BrendanThomasMarrett
It was just inconsistent writing and trying to make us like people that we didn't like um or didn't need to like i mean you might say oh yeah but some of these people become such an important part of david's mighty man on that's later so okay for them to be unlike people in season one it's fine nothing would have been lost um so yeah i don't think i there's a character per se that i
00:47:25
Logan Howard
Yeah. um
00:47:37
BrendanThomasMarrett
inherently disapproved of in terms of the acting and portrayal. I think it was just the right thing. It's a viable show, but it's okay to have characters people don't like.
00:47:45
Logan Howard
Yeah.
00:47:49
Logan Howard
Yeah.
00:47:49
BrendanThomasMarrett
It's fine.
00:47:50
Logan Howard
yeah It is. um And sometimes you want them to not be liked. So I i guess the the one that, um yeah, I mean, I have a hard time finding one that I didn't like because most of it was down to writing.
00:47:56
BrendanThomasMarrett
Yeah, it's good drama.
00:48:09
Logan Howard
um
00:48:10
BrendanThomasMarrett
uh
00:48:10
Logan Howard
And I do want to apologize, I did confuse Shimmy and Doeg, because they're both related to Saul, so I mixed them into the same human. So he won't be he won't be later on you know laughing at him, but you're right, he did kill the priests of Nob.
00:48:18
BrendanThomasMarrett
but
00:48:25
Logan Howard
So Doeg is an important character in that he kind of betrays and kills off a bunch of priests that David is like, ah, I knew he was there, I knew he was going to go talk back to Saul.
00:48:36
Logan Howard
Um, so, uh, but in terms of like horrid characters, I mean, the closest that you'd say was maybe not, maybe not portrayed the best was maybe Mary Ab because again, like she has these weird moments of,
00:48:50
BrendanThomasMarrett
All right.
00:48:54
Logan Howard
oh, she's got to move the script forward or help be a partner in crime of riding on a horse.
00:48:58
BrendanThomasMarrett
All
00:49:00
Logan Howard
or But then she's also like not wanting to speak in front of people and has nothing for these peasants. um like She goes back and forth on...
00:49:10
BrendanThomasMarrett
right.
00:49:11
Logan Howard
this stuff. And, um then she's kind of a jaded inov individual because, she almost got married to somebody, but Saul threw a fit about it.
00:49:12
BrendanThomasMarrett
um you
00:49:21
Logan Howard
and then she's like, you'll never find love. But at the same time is like, so David, where are you going? Why are you leaving? You should stay.
00:49:34
BrendanThomasMarrett
look yeah
00:49:39
BrendanThomasMarrett
In that tone of voice. sister, I'm gonna do that for
00:49:40
Logan Howard
Yeah, pretty much. She was very much flirtatious. it
00:49:46
BrendanThomasMarrett
you. nice sister
00:49:48
Logan Howard
so
00:49:49
BrendanThomasMarrett
for you
00:49:52
Logan Howard
um What would you say, what part of the story was the most
Impactful Scenes and Themes
00:49:56
Logan Howard
powerful? The thing that made you moved moved you or you hadn't thought about before um or something that was like, wow, that is a really unique take or a unique way of telling that part of the story.
00:50:12
BrendanThomasMarrett
I rewatched the David and Goliath scene so, so many times.
00:50:18
Logan Howard
Hmm.
00:50:19
BrendanThomasMarrett
That entire section from when David sets out to the battlefield, right to the end. So, so many times. um And I think he actually they actually, do a very good job in quoting 1 Samuel 17, almost verbatim.
00:50:34
BrendanThomasMarrett
Um, there's one line he says, and I'd never, he says it with such attitude, and I was like, course that's what it meant. Um, because, hold on, I'll just, I'll read the line, and then i will, um, give my exposition.
00:50:56
BrendanThomasMarrett
Pause for suspense.
00:51:01
BrendanThomasMarrett
Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I'm going to start reading from verse 45. David says the Philistine, which I'd always thought was pronounced Philistine before that show.
00:51:07
Logan Howard
Mm-hmm.
00:51:12
BrendanThomasMarrett
You come against me at sword and spear and javelin, but I come against you in the name of the Lord Almighty, the God of the armies of Israel, whom you have defied. This day the Lord will hand you over to me, and I'll strike you down and cut off your head. so Spoiler alert.
00:51:28
BrendanThomasMarrett
to- Today I'll give the carcasses of the Philistine army to the birds of the air and the beasts of the earth, and the whole world will know that there's a God in Israel. All those gathered here will know, and it's this line in particular, that it is not by sword or spear the Lord saves, for the battle is the Lord's, and he will give all of you into our hands.
00:51:47
BrendanThomasMarrett
That line there, verse 47. In verse 46, David says, going to kill you, and going to kill your men. And animals are going to eat you.
00:52:01
BrendanThomasMarrett
And in verse 47, everyone here is going to know, Who God is. And that it's not by might. It's not by human power. It's by the spirit of God.
00:52:12
BrendanThomasMarrett
Him moving because he's all powerful.
00:52:15
Logan Howard
Yeah.
00:52:17
BrendanThomasMarrett
But if Goliath has been beheaded. And the Philistines have been eaten. Who is going to know this? The only survivors will be the Israelites.
00:52:29
Logan Howard
Mm-hmm.
00:52:30
BrendanThomasMarrett
God's people. And I loved in the show... That when he said that line, he's like, and all those gathered here. and he turns his head to Sol's army.
00:52:42
BrendanThomasMarrett
Because I think we've all heard the story, oh, you know, they were there for 40 days and they did nothing. They just stood there and they were afraid. But they weren't just afraid.
00:52:56
BrendanThomasMarrett
God's nation genuinely did not know who he God was.
00:53:00
Logan Howard
Yeah. No.
00:53:00
BrendanThomasMarrett
There was no belief there.
00:53:02
Logan Howard
no
00:53:03
BrendanThomasMarrett
The reason that there was no faith for those 40 days, a month and a half of God being blasphemed is because God's people had no faith. So he just gave this in little disgusted look around his shoulder and it was like, wow, wow.
00:53:19
BrendanThomasMarrett
When he was walking on the battlefield, you just know people, God's people were mocking him, sneering him, saying, are you for serious? We're going to die because it doesn't want.
00:53:31
Logan Howard
Yeah.
00:53:31
BrendanThomasMarrett
You just know that there was rebellion going on. And when he says this, he's not just insulting his enemies. He's calling out the faithlessness in God's people. I liked that.
00:53:42
BrendanThomasMarrett
I liked that a lot. Because isn't that the truth? You made a comment earlier about how, you know, When a king will not do what God says, when politicians will not do what God says, God sends in the prophet.
00:53:56
BrendanThomasMarrett
Take out the sword, the word of God, which divides thoughts and intentions, bone and marrow. And this separates spirit from soul.
00:54:08
BrendanThomasMarrett
And just like that happens today, happened in 1 Samuel as well. um Because of the faithlessness in God's people. The world should be peripheral to the church.
00:54:22
BrendanThomasMarrett
So when the world is nuts and there's silent church, that's when things really spiral. I liked that. That was a good line. It's little tilt of his head, look at disgust in his eyes, I liked it.
00:54:33
Logan Howard
Yeah. I think, um so I honestly think Samuel and Saul's interaction was great, but i' have I've already mentioned that.
00:54:34
BrendanThomasMarrett
Yeah.
00:54:42
Logan Howard
I think um that end scene, like you were talking about, some of but that last episode, they they have Achish and Jonathan have a conversation.
00:54:49
BrendanThomasMarrett
Yeah.
00:54:53
Logan Howard
And Achish is basically questioning Jonathan, where is Yahweh? Where is your God? I normally see the the burning fire above. Why is why is he not here? Like, I want to crush Yahweh is basically kind of what he's insinuating.
00:55:08
Logan Howard
He wants to conquer Israel because his gods are better than your gods. His actual giants who are right in front of him are better than your god who is obviously not with you because you're not burning the sacrifices.
00:55:14
BrendanThomasMarrett
yeah
00:55:22
Logan Howard
um
00:55:23
BrendanThomasMarrett
Mmm, wow.
00:55:24
Logan Howard
And then you move to a little bit further. So you get john or David is going and he's getting his stones, his little stones.
00:55:31
BrendanThomasMarrett
Mmm.
00:55:32
Logan Howard
And he's by himself. And it's Jonathan walks up to him to say to talk to him. And Jonathan's line of questioning is asking him, where is he from? And David goes, well, the tribe of Judah. And of course, at this point...
00:55:47
Logan Howard
the leadership is known that there will be somebody who, that Samuel went to Judah. He went to Bethlehem and he went and he went and had a sacrifice with a family.
00:55:52
BrendanThomasMarrett
Yeah.
00:55:58
Logan Howard
They don't know who it was, but they know that those three things happened.
00:56:02
BrendanThomasMarrett
Yeah.
00:56:02
Logan Howard
And so Jonathan asked him directly, who tribe are you from? Judah. Where do you live? Bethlehem. And he then he like grabs him by the shoulders, looks at him and goes, did Samuel have like sacrifice with you?
00:56:16
BrendanThomasMarrett
Yes.
00:56:17
Logan Howard
And the interaction of David, there's like a bit of a pause.
00:56:18
BrendanThomasMarrett
I like that too. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:56:22
Logan Howard
And then he goes, yes.
00:56:24
BrendanThomasMarrett
Yeah.
00:56:25
Logan Howard
Almost like David knew that, you know, David knows that he's supposed to be king. So he is has this confidence that he's not going to die or be killed. And then you see and you see Jonathan realize he's not going to get it.
00:56:35
BrendanThomasMarrett
The dog is not going to get the crown. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:56:41
Logan Howard
And then instead of getting upset about it, he immediately goes, he he lets David walk by, and then he turns around and says, hey, Goliath, when he throws his spear, his temple will be available. That's your time to attack.
00:56:54
BrendanThomasMarrett
Yes.
00:56:55
Logan Howard
And you're like, Jonathan made his choice right there of who he was going to serve.
00:56:58
BrendanThomasMarrett
Yeah.
00:56:59
Logan Howard
And you're like, let's go! Because again, that is, in reality, in reality, They played that tension so perfectly because Jonathan's supposed to be king. He's supposed to be the guy. He is this man who follows God's will.
00:57:13
Logan Howard
And he gets faced with, do you choose your house or do you choose God's will?
00:57:13
BrendanThomasMarrett
and
00:57:18
Logan Howard
And he immediately, or he gets in thats in that little frame, chooses God. um So that was that was just an amazing segment there.
00:57:29
Logan Howard
um And then while I probably – don't like that they like killed David like by having the spear go through him. I did like how right at that time is when Samuel goes and starts burning the sacrifices.
00:57:44
BrendanThomasMarrett
Yeah.
00:57:44
Logan Howard
And you're like, oh, boy.
00:57:45
Logan Howard
Yeah.
00:57:46
BrendanThomasMarrett
Yeah.
00:57:47
BrendanThomasMarrett
Mm. Mm.
00:57:47
Logan Howard
It is on now.
00:57:51
Logan Howard
um So I also liked how they tied the rise up thing with his dad, which is what his mom told him his Mom had told his dad, Jesse, ah that he let him rise.
00:58:05
Logan Howard
And David had always thought that his mom was telling him, just keep him safe. Just keep him safe. And that's really not what she wanted him. She wanted him to be who he was supposed to be.
00:58:17
Logan Howard
um which is really cool. So honestly, it was it was really well done, emotional, and there are a lot of like little beat points that yeah are like really well done in that that closing segment. They were really powerful.
00:58:32
BrendanThomasMarrett
Big time and not to crap on what you said a about Akish and Jonathan but actually
00:58:42
BrendanThomasMarrett
rather than having Jonathan sneak into the enemy's camp and I get it he's a hero they wanted to give him something to do i get that I understand
00:58:48
Logan Howard
Yeah. yeah that That was the thing. Yeah.
00:58:54
BrendanThomasMarrett
But him getting captured just so they could send him home again, because think they realize that they wrote themselves into a bit of a corner and were like, but well, we can't kill him because he appears in Chapter 18.
00:59:02
Logan Howard
Yeah.
00:59:07
Logan Howard
Yeah, that was a little poorly done.
00:59:09
BrendanThomasMarrett
Right. So I kind of think, actually, if they had said, OK, maybe Jonathan was going to lead a group. ah around that night, the night of 1 Samuel 17, but the next thing David pushes himself in front of Saul's tent and is like, I will go, i will kill this uncircumcised man.
00:59:28
Logan Howard
Yeah.
00:59:31
BrendanThomasMarrett
Even if like Jonathan had had the the intention... of going to do it because ultimately it was time spent on Akit, who I'm sorry, I forget what he looks like.
00:59:43
BrendanThomasMarrett
ah I forgot his name, as we mentioned a moment ago. um And just giving Jonathan lines for the sake of lines, when to be honest, that was totally eclipsed by their interaction when David was getting the stones anyway.
00:59:58
Logan Howard
Yeah.
00:59:58
BrendanThomasMarrett
Um, that was a much better scene for Jonathan than trying to be a superhero, um, just get captured. Just to get set free.
01:00:10
BrendanThomasMarrett
And it's like, you know, I've killed your prince! Oh, there he is Um, no emotional reaction, no real payoffs at all in that sense. Um, I actually think if they had removed that non-storyline with Jonathan and the quiche,
01:00:28
BrendanThomasMarrett
They actually could have finished 1 Samuel 17. They actually could have given more timely to a full-on battle between the Israelites and the Philistines.
01:00:41
Logan Howard
Yeah.
01:00:44
BrendanThomasMarrett
i I think that will be the season two opening, and I think that's necessary.
01:00:48
Logan Howard
Yeah.
01:00:50
BrendanThomasMarrett
i don't think they have to open every season with a battle just to get you interested.
01:00:55
Logan Howard
No, you shouldn't have to know.
01:00:56
BrendanThomasMarrett
here you that they don't need to do that it so it would have been okay to finish the goliath epic in that season finale um and then after that whole big battle then david goes before saul and he's got goliath's head frozen his tent because apparently that's what teenagers do um and then for saul to say whose son are you And then this awkward tension where even Jonathan is facepalming like, oh my word.
01:01:29
BrendanThomasMarrett
And Michal is looking at her father and she's so obsessed in love with him. And then looks at David and starts to feel all jittery and and anxious and nauseous.
01:01:37
Logan Howard
Mm-hmm.
01:01:38
BrendanThomasMarrett
And he says, I'm the son of your servant, Jesse of Bethlehem. And a close up of Saul's face. Because by this stage, everyone knows Samuel was in Bethlehem. And everyone knows that Jacob prophesied Judah would have kings.
01:01:58
BrendanThomasMarrett
And the next thing, the the demon that looks like Agag coming up just beside Saul and saying i'm just smiling like... And then season two opens with a big celebration when they're all going back to the capital.
01:02:13
BrendanThomasMarrett
And Sol already has hatred and is hard for David and thinks this kid's going to try to kill me and seal my throne. I think it would have made for such more definitive ending to the first saga.
01:02:26
BrendanThomasMarrett
But I actually think they'll probably open season two with the battle. And I think it was kind of a contrived... A bit contrived? don't it's necessary.
01:02:34
Logan Howard
Hmm.
01:02:36
BrendanThomasMarrett
There's enough material that you don't have to have battles for the sake of battle for the first two minutes of rest of the show. But... um Again, just with the narrative flow, I would have just done differently.
01:02:47
Logan Howard
Yeah.
01:02:50
Logan Howard
Gotcha. Yeah. No, I agree with that. i agree with that. Any closing thoughts that you had? Because we are at our hour mark, and honestly, I can keep talking for longer, but i sure I'm sure people don't want to listen to us for hours.
01:02:58
BrendanThomasMarrett
So... Oh goodness.
01:03:04
Logan Howard
Anyway, anything that you you wanted to talk about or you'd written down in your notes that you didn't get to yet?
01:03:04
BrendanThomasMarrett
Okay.
01:03:11
BrendanThomasMarrett
Only one last thing, and it was do with Orpah. um Again, but this is about, sam you know, Naomi had two daughter-in-laws, and Ruth became, it David's grandmother?
01:03:23
Logan Howard
Yeah.
01:03:29
BrendanThomasMarrett
Great-grandmother?
01:03:30
Logan Howard
Mm-hmm.
01:03:31
BrendanThomasMarrett
um And then Orpah went back to her own people. Again, um it has long been taught by certain Jewish teachers that when Orpah returned to her people, um that she actually did become the mother of Goliath. That was only something that I that i'd learned maybe at the end of last year.
01:03:54
BrendanThomasMarrett
um They say in the show her name translates as the long-necked one. it's there There are like two translations to her name would be less common, but then you do have then a group of Nephilim the Old Testament whose name is long-necked or stiff-necked.
01:04:03
Logan Howard
Yeah.
01:04:13
BrendanThomasMarrett
So um yeah, there were elements that they played with that some Christians probably would not like and said, that's not biblical, we don't know if that's true, that's probably lie.
01:04:25
BrendanThomasMarrett
you know what, maybe it is wrong. Calm Yourselves is a TV show. But in terms of taking the time even to look up, you know, what Jewish teachers have taught over centuries and playing with those and leaning for different ideas, likes, want to say, extra-biblical material.
01:04:34
Logan Howard
Hmm.
01:04:44
Logan Howard
right
01:04:44
BrendanThomasMarrett
I'm not going say unbiblical. but It was not the Bible, but does not can contradict the Bible. I call it extra-biblical. ah So maybe right, maybe wrong.
01:04:55
BrendanThomasMarrett
um I like that they pay their due diligence and with things like that. um But yeah, listen, overall, do I recommend the show to any listeners who've stuck with us this long? would have not seen it.
01:05:11
BrendanThomasMarrett
I do. so I'm sorry, there may be nothing new for you that we haven't already said.
01:05:18
BrendanThomasMarrett
But it's worth a watch. And I do think it's important that we, the best we're ability, support Christian entertainment. and By which I mean Bible-based entertainment.
01:05:30
Logan Howard
Yeah.
01:05:31
BrendanThomasMarrett
um Because Christians often complain that there's nothing for them on TV. There's nothing for them on the streaming services, in the music industry. And I asked, well, do you support it? Do you support Christian content creators or content that's biblical in nature?
01:05:48
BrendanThomasMarrett
um um remember it was very sober thing to hear, actually. But there was um a TV broadcaster, think it was in the UK, that does not make a lot of Christian content.
01:06:05
Logan Howard
Mm-hmm.
01:06:05
BrendanThomasMarrett
one day, and a Christian actually criticized of the broadcasters and said, only make secular content. This is a disgrace. There are Christians in this nation.
01:06:17
BrendanThomasMarrett
and the broadcaster said, hold the phone. We've made plenty Christian shows and content. know complains with them? It's not witches. It's not the agnostics or the atheists.
01:06:30
BrendanThomasMarrett
Christians complain. Christians say, That doesn't say that in the Bible, my pastor teaches something different, according to my denomination. And said, so if you're so unhappy that everything we do is secular, it's because church people hate church content.
01:06:45
Logan Howard
Yeah.
01:06:45
BrendanThomasMarrett
So, and I remember hearing that and thinking, oh, wow. And I felt humbled, because I had probably been very religious up to that point, too.
01:06:56
BrendanThomasMarrett
I would have been incredibly... skeptic of quote unquote Christian content um but it is important that it gets out there will encourage people to read the Bible to compare the word of God with the show and that's all to the better course it is and it's one of the reasons we make this
01:07:14
Logan Howard
yeah
Recommendation of the Series
01:07:16
BrendanThomasMarrett
show you know get some fun loving Christian content out there just show the love of Jesus have some fun um so yeah there would be my closing opinions
01:07:16
Logan Howard
Yep. yep
01:07:27
Logan Howard
Yeah, definitely. It was it was a good show. I recommend it as well. it's Again, you don't want to walk into ah this kind of thing and think of it as, oh it's got to be exactly biblical and all the details have to be exactly on.
01:07:37
BrendanThomasMarrett
Yeah. Thanks.
01:07:40
Logan Howard
um it is a It's sort of, even the the writers called it a love letter to the story. And so it's like an adaptation of the story.
01:07:47
BrendanThomasMarrett
yeah
01:07:49
Logan Howard
And so there are things and decisions they're going to make that you're probably going to disagree with that are not, that are extra biblical. They are for the but fun and the frill. And there was a time in my life where I would get so upset about that and be like, it's not against the Bible.
01:08:05
Logan Howard
But in reality, like you said, it it means that we just get a lot of filth on our television and we don't actually get stuff that is...
01:08:05
BrendanThomasMarrett
and
01:08:13
Logan Howard
Good quality. And so if you go into it and you think that this and you realize it's not the Bible, but it is a there is some things or some reflections of the Bible that are in here, because you get to see how people act and interact in their hearts and how they care, and stuff that when you read it, it seems a bit dry or it seems a bit just...
01:08:14
BrendanThomasMarrett
Yes.
01:08:19
BrendanThomasMarrett
yeah
01:08:34
Logan Howard
you know text-based, but when you watch it out, you get to see some of those emotions that you maybe miss when you read.
01:08:36
BrendanThomasMarrett
and
01:08:42
Logan Howard
um
01:08:42
BrendanThomasMarrett
well
01:08:43
Logan Howard
So it it is it is ah benefit, and I think it's a good thing. Again, don't go into it thinking you're reading the Bible or this is the Bible that you're watching. It is ah different environment, but it is a very entertaining way, and they do it justice, and it's not in an inappropriate way. They do it in an appropriate manner And so they make decisions that we disagree with and things that they could have done better, but it all in all was pretty well done.
01:09:08
Logan Howard
So we want to hear what you have to say about the house of David. So send us an email at from Dublin to Cleveland. We'd love to hear your review. um Maybe some thoughts that we missed because it's a long, I think it's, so it's eight episodes. It's about an hour.
01:09:22
Logan Howard
an episode. So it's like eight hours of content. So that's almost two or three movies worth of a show.
01:09:28
BrendanThomasMarrett
Mm-hmm.
01:09:29
Logan Howard
So if you thought of things or had some things you want to talk about, or, you know, spinoffs of that, and hopefully in the next year, when they bring out season two, we can do another review of this and get to talk about it some more.
01:09:42
Logan Howard
So it was a good show for me. I enjoyed it. It's, uh, at least to eight, eight and a half, nine out of 10 for me. And I really enjoyed it, but send us a note about that. Um, anything so I guess we kind of want to close with 1 Samuel, at least a little bit, of the actual words of the Bible. so what were so what were you thinking, Brendan? Where do you want to go?
01:10:02
BrendanThomasMarrett
Sure. Well, I think 1 Samuel 17 is a great place to turn. That is David and Goliath, one of most famous stories in the Bible. So famous, even LucasAid has an advertisement based on TV.
01:10:16
BrendanThomasMarrett
That's when you really know you've hit gold, people.
01:10:18
Logan Howard
Yep.
01:10:21
BrendanThomasMarrett
And, you know, oh my goodness. Every time I read, get something different out of it. Honestly, truly. It's just so splendid and spectacular and amazing.
01:10:32
BrendanThomasMarrett
And combined with 1 Samuel 16, it is the hero's journey.
01:10:37
Logan Howard
Mm-hmm.
01:10:37
BrendanThomasMarrett
so He's the bomb growing up in obscurity who gets chosen um by an older mentor, if you will, and has everything going against him, you know, from family life was profession to how other people perceive him, but tank literally takes down the giant.
01:11:00
BrendanThomasMarrett
And... I mean, I e wholeheartedly believe, no offense to George Lucas, I know he went a bit cray-cray as he got older, but I don't think Star Wars would exist without 1 Samuel You have the shepherd boy who faces insurmountable, impossible odds
01:11:20
Logan Howard
Yeah.
01:11:22
BrendanThomasMarrett
that ultimately changed the trajectory of a nation and ultimately nations, the whole wide world.
01:11:28
Logan Howard
Yeah.
01:11:29
BrendanThomasMarrett
ah So, phenomenal. But, you know, there are certain voices that David had to tear down, which were just as legitimate in terms of threats as Goliath and his enemy.
01:11:44
Logan Howard
Yeah.
01:11:46
BrendanThomasMarrett
You might sometimes read the Bible and feel inadequate. Oh, I could never do that. Oh, I could never kill someone who was like, you know, so many meters tall. Oh, I could never face it an obstacle like that.
01:11:58
BrendanThomasMarrett
Well, actually, you can. you'll tear down all manner of spiritual lions and bears and giants. But first, you have to overcome the voices that come against you.
01:12:11
BrendanThomasMarrett
And for instance, in 1 Samuel 17, 28, David had to come against the voice of imposter syndrome. Eliab, his own brother, person should have known him the best and been his biggest supporter,
01:12:28
BrendanThomasMarrett
Walked right up to him. Well, okay, well, David went to him to give him, like, cheese sandwiches, whatever. um But his brother just says, you know, why have you come down here? You don't belong here.
01:12:40
BrendanThomasMarrett
You're an intruder. You're in my space. This is not for you. Bugger off. And when God starts sending you out in your purpose, in your destiny, to start tearing down giants, not only...
01:12:54
BrendanThomasMarrett
to influence your life, but to protect the lives of of the multitudes, of the masses, you're going to feel like you don't belong there. You're going to want to to what's familiar. The idea of wide open spaces is terrifying because you can control the prison.
01:13:15
BrendanThomasMarrett
You can determine how much dust is on the floor. you can make your own bed. um you know You know, when your toilet breaks off when you have to go outside and start smashing your stones and you go back in you can control a prison cell.
01:13:32
BrendanThomasMarrett
The wide open spaces, destiny purpose. When you're out on deep waters and the waves and the storms where only God save you.
01:13:42
Logan Howard
Yeah.
01:13:45
BrendanThomasMarrett
You're going to feel like you don't belong. He had to deal with the voice of imposter syndrome.
01:13:52
BrendanThomasMarrett
Still verse 28. Eliab doesn't call him a shepherd or sheep. He says he's is a shepherd of a few sheep. It's just like, you know, sticking a knife in somebody and twisting it really, really slowly.
01:14:10
BrendanThomasMarrett
That's the voice of limitation. Who do you think you are?
01:14:12
Logan Howard
Yeah.
01:14:15
BrendanThomasMarrett
And what have you done? How many subscribers do you have on your podcast? How many views you get a week? How many people like your posts online? um How many people attend your young adults group?
01:14:30
Logan Howard
Hmm.
01:14:30
BrendanThomasMarrett
How many friends could you call on in the case of an emergency? um How many people have you won for Jesus? The voice of limitation.
01:14:41
BrendanThomasMarrett
Then, 1 Samuel 16, Samuel looked at Eliab and just said, The Lord's rejected you. Lord sees it your heart, and he no like you, no like you.
01:14:48
Logan Howard
Thank you.
01:14:52
BrendanThomasMarrett
But yet, in verse 28, look what Eliab says. I know you're a wicked heart. You're conceited. You're wicked. You just love blood, guts, and gore, David.
01:15:06
BrendanThomasMarrett
You came here hoping to see a pile of corpses all across the plain. I know what you're like.
01:15:15
BrendanThomasMarrett
We only meet David in 1 Samuel 16, but we have absolutely no reason to believe that's an accurate description of him.
01:15:23
Logan Howard
Yeah.
01:15:24
BrendanThomasMarrett
But yet someone who's supposed to be his supporter, be his leader, be his his brother, someone who loves him no matter what, someone who sets him up to win... The voice of projection.
01:15:37
BrendanThomasMarrett
Everything that Samuel saw in Eliab. Okay, well first Samuel thought Eliab was amazing, but after God opened his eyes, he projected it on David.
01:15:50
BrendanThomasMarrett
And you're going have to deal with the voice of projection. People are going to come against you. are People that you have spent hours discipling, praying for, listening to them whinge, whining, moan, giving them tissues, praying.
01:16:04
BrendanThomasMarrett
Those people are going to stab you in the back and slap you across the face publicly and let half a dozen other people know it. The voice of projection. It's not you.
01:16:16
BrendanThomasMarrett
It's something in them that's warring against you. Which is the spirit of God.
01:16:23
BrendanThomasMarrett
Then you get to verse 33. I'm going to read this one in full. Sol replied, you're not able to go out against this Philistine of fighting.
01:16:36
BrendanThomasMarrett
You're only a boy. And he's been a fighting man from his youth. That is the voice of invalidation.
01:16:46
Logan Howard
Yeah.
01:16:49
BrendanThomasMarrett
I'm sorry, where is Ohio on a map? And you think you're going to things for Jesus? Yeah, good one. Okay. Mm-hmm. Sure. Sure.
01:16:57
BrendanThomasMarrett
My town is the smallest big town. Of all the three major towns in my county, mine is the smallest. um Each time I walk through my town, i see, like, another empty building.
01:17:10
BrendanThomasMarrett
ah People could very easily say, you know, okay, you come R&D County Light? Right, okay, and where's that? When I tell people where I'm from, they say, where's that? Or they say, oh, yeah, I drove through there once.
01:17:29
BrendanThomasMarrett
invalidation
01:17:33
BrendanThomasMarrett
then you get to verse 38 when Saul who is too afraid to go out in the battlefield and Saul is the tallest man in Israel by at least a head he is the Goliath of Israel he doesn't have Nephilim DNA but he is the Goliath of Israel he is a giant
01:17:52
Logan Howard
Yeah.
01:17:54
BrendanThomasMarrett
And he wants people on that battlefield to think, oh, my goodness, wow, look, Saul is on the battlefield. Look at him. I see his armor. Wow, it's a gang. and Even though it's like you know, David, and he's far shorter, and the armor is not.
01:18:05
Logan Howard
yeah Hmm.
Famous Last Words of Church Ministers
01:18:07
Logan Howard
hey
01:18:08
BrendanThomasMarrett
Voice of manipulation.
01:18:12
BrendanThomasMarrett
If you want people to come against your ministry, just tell them something that your church fellowship has never done before. We've never done it that way.
01:18:25
BrendanThomasMarrett
The six most famous last words of any church minister.
01:18:27
Logan Howard
Thank you.
David vs. Goliath: Confidence and Faith
01:18:31
BrendanThomasMarrett
And then you basically have his interaction with Goliath. When Goliath basically says, it's going to kill you and you're to bird food. so Dark prophecy. The enemy speaking death over you.
01:18:43
BrendanThomasMarrett
And what I love is that David hears those words and turns them right back on Goliath. And, you know, Goliath's like, know, Vee, fi, foe, fum, I smell the blood of an Englishman, be he live or be he dead, I'll grind his bones into my bread. And David's like, you are, um, my bread.
01:19:03
BrendanThomasMarrett
and going to devour you today. And you're going to be eaten. And speaks the word of God. Because he holds in the on the word he'd received, which is he was anointed to be king and he was going to deliver his people.
01:19:22
BrendanThomasMarrett
And so often,
Dealing with Intimidation and Identity in Christ
01:19:23
BrendanThomasMarrett
if someone one speaks to you in one of those voices, you can fall apart, run away, hide away, throw in the towel. David had to contend all those before the stone left the sling.
01:19:38
Logan Howard
Yeah.
01:19:39
BrendanThomasMarrett
And you might wonder, how did he put up with all that? Well, it's the very end of the chapter, when finally someone asks him, how do you see yourself?
01:19:50
BrendanThomasMarrett
Who the heck are you?
01:19:53
BrendanThomasMarrett
And David responds, I'm David. I'm the son of Jesse, your servant in Bethlehem.
01:20:04
BrendanThomasMarrett
He was able to confront the voices of intimidation, projection, limitation, imposter syndrome, invalidation, dark prophecies, words of death, because he saw himself as a son.
01:20:22
BrendanThomasMarrett
And you are a son of God. You are a daughter of God. So when these words come against you, let them be like water off a duck's back. Know your identity in Jesus Christ.
01:20:36
BrendanThomasMarrett
And not one of these labels will stick to you.
01:20:40
Logan Howard
yeah
01:20:40
BrendanThomasMarrett
And Brendan sees it.
01:20:44
Logan Howard
ah That's powerful stuff.
01:20:44
BrendanThomasMarrett
That's it.
01:20:45
Logan Howard
It is. ah you You need to know who you are as a believer in Christ.
01:20:50
BrendanThomasMarrett
That's it.
01:20:50
Logan Howard
As soon as you don't know who you are or you're unsure or you're uncertain is exactly when the enemy is going to strike with those voices and that's when he's got you and can convince you and make you do things that you are not intending or want to do.
01:21:06
Logan Howard
um
01:21:06
BrendanThomasMarrett
Yeah.
01:21:06
Logan Howard
And it all it all comes down to knowing exactly who you are and reminding yourself that you're a child of God first and foremost. Because it's so easy to... You'll also get...
Staying Grounded and Avoiding Ego Traps
01:21:17
Logan Howard
um the Spoiler for chapter 18, but you'll get the voice of praise later on.
01:21:22
Logan Howard
That is, instead of all this bad stuff, it's like, Oh, look, he slayed his ten thousands.
01:21:24
BrendanThomasMarrett
and
01:21:28
Logan Howard
He's great. We love him. And of course, David could have let that get right to right inside and go, oh, I deserve this. I deserve to be king. I've been anointed.
01:21:39
Logan Howard
I deserve it. I should just take it for myself. I should just reach out and kill Saul and I'm the king and everybody loves me.
01:21:50
Logan Howard
um So then you have the voice of self-praise, right? The praise of ourselves. So um those voices come too, because it' if the devil can't get you on the negative side, he will certainly try to get you, your ego and your brain more on yourself and not on yourself.
01:21:59
BrendanThomasMarrett
Yeah.
01:22:08
Logan Howard
others. um So he'll use it both ways. But we have labored on long
Concluding Prayer and Encouragement
01:22:14
Logan Howard
enough. Let me quickly close with some prayer, and then we'll send you on to the rest of your lovely days. So thank you, Lord, for scripture.
01:22:21
Logan Howard
thank you lord for for your scripture Thank you for David and thank you for his story. Lord, thank you for his life that he lived. Thank you for um his reflection and image that you gave us of him and how he ah and we came before and how you and your son came from his line.
01:22:39
Logan Howard
Lord, we're thankful for um without David, we don't have a line of that leads us to Jesus, that leads us to the cross, that leads us to salvation, that leads us to repentance, that leads us to having a new identity and an identity in Christ.
01:22:54
Logan Howard
And so I'm thankful for ah his whole so his whole life and everything he did. And sure, he made mistakes and he messed up, and boy, do we do that too. um But we're thankful for the example of how to handle our mistakes and how to handle when things go wrong and how to handle what we should do instead and cut off before those mistakes get so bad.
01:23:03
BrendanThomasMarrett
This
01:23:14
Logan Howard
um where We're just thankful for the show. We're thankful for those who took the time to put heart and effort into what they did, um even though they make mistakes just like we do as well.
01:23:26
Logan Howard
And we just pray that you continue to bless ah plus people as they watch it, that they would it would bring them back to the Bible as well, that it would bring them to your word, and that it would open a door into people's hearts that maybe have never heard of the Bible, never heard of the Scripture, never read it. And they see this story and they watch it, and it captures their imagination so much that they want to read the Bible.
01:23:48
Logan Howard
So pray that you would bless... um The rest of our day as well, we pray for each of those who are listening that you would ah be able to find that, to hear the voice of what God calls you and not the voices that are trying to lie to you and lead you to a path that is not where God wants you to be. So we pray that you would hear the hear God's voice, that he would teach you, that he would lead you, that you would be an apprentice to him, that you would follow him in all your ways, um and so that you can have ah the ability that you can have and be with God forever. You can be in His house, be in His eternity life. We know that, you know, Lord, we just pray for those who are listening, who maybe don't know Christ as their Savior, who have no relationship with God, who don't have that identity rooted in Him, that you would open their eyes today, that you would help them to see what you did on the cross for them, that you paid the ultimate price. You took all of our sins on the cross,
01:24:42
Logan Howard
that you died, but not only that you died with our sins, that you rose again. You conquered the death. So death is no longer the final final end of our stories. We have an eternity that will be with you forever. So I pray that you would um help people to believe in that and not just believe it in that it's a thing that happened, but in a way that is deep and real and that it speaks life to them and brings them the life that they can have now on this earth and will have an eternal life.
01:25:10
Logan Howard
Give us a wonderful day today. In Jesus' name, amen.
01:25:13
BrendanThomasMarrett
Amen.
01:25:14
Logan Howard
Thank you, friends. We'll see you all next time.