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ABRACADABRA: The Magic of the 2025 Grammys (with DJ John Michael)
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DJ John Michael returns to dive into everything Grammy Awards! Could this be the best music award show since the iconic 2009 VMAs? We cover it all—from Beyoncé and Lady Gaga to Shakira and Dave Chappelle, plus Raye and Diana Ross. Join us as we break down the winners in the Big Four categories, discuss the Best Pop Vocal Album, and get the scoop on Charli XCX’s stunning new décor. Plus, don’t miss our take on Gaga’s brand new single, “Abracadabra,” which made its magical debut alongside the official music video during the show!
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Recent Events Frenzy
00:00:00
Speaker
God there's so much that has happened. There has been so much that has happened in the last and barely 24 hours. Like, like, obviously we had the Grammys. Obviously we there's the cowboy Carter tour announcement.
Lady Gaga's Surprise Drop
00:00:15
Speaker
Lady Gaga decided to not only drop a new single but a new music video as well in the middle of the award show. Wow. I'm overwhelmed. I'm very overwhelmed. I'm like, girl, it's Monday. It's
Grammy Preparations
00:00:26
Speaker
Monday. And I was like, I was like, I am, you know, like, i so I put so much work into creating like 32 pre made, like Grammy things.
00:00:37
Speaker
And let me tell you, I was explaining that to Brian and he was just like, how does he know? Like, he's like, he's so fast. And I was like, Oh no, I said, they're already pre-made. I said, they're this is like a whole operation.
Switch to Podcasting
00:00:47
Speaker
The whole operation, I logged at least 12 hours last week, creating all of these. It was insane. yeah Every time, like I did like one, uh, like award at a time. And then like, I did it like one, one day and then one the next day. And by the time each time I was done, like my eyes were spiraling. I was just like, it was nuts. But like, I was like, I am so content
Grammy Excitement and Comparisons
00:01:09
Speaker
created out. I was like, I, I was like, I don't think I'm going to do memes for this. i I wanted to record an episode instead.
00:01:18
Speaker
I feel like it makes more sense to be honest. Yeah, because I feel like like I personally love the Grammys. I've always loved the Grammys. Right. And I've always loved. I love award shows in general, but like the Grammys being a music lover has always been kind of like that. It's like my Super Bowl, my Oscars. Right. Right. Right. Right. And so, yeah, I was just like, I want to talk about it because I feel like it's going to be a good one. And I have to say, like, I don't feel like it disappointed at all.
00:01:45
Speaker
Oh, wait, are we starting or are we? we're so Let's start. Let's just start. Welcome back to Homophonic, everybody. It's Zach, ah your host. And John Michael, DJ John Michael, is here with us once again. What's up, what's up? We're we're just going to talk about the Grammys. we're gonna I mean, there's so much. There's so much. And so like I don't even know where to begin. like i I feel like maybe we should just jump into the Grammys itself. and Yeah, I feel like the Grammys are top of mind right now.
00:02:15
Speaker
Yeah, so to me, I'm just gonna start off by saying that this was probably the best award show, music award show, I'll say that, period, since 2009 VMAs.
Diverse Grammy Production Team
00:02:28
Speaker
100%. I'm actually really, really curious to see who are the people that produce this because I said to Brian at some point, I was like, it's got to be women. There's got to be either women or it's got to be gay people or it's got it's something I said that but there's something is markedly markedly different.
00:02:42
Speaker
It and was so well put together. I mean, last year's Grammys was pretty well put together, too. I think what I really like is that they I feel like they're realizing that who's watching
Grammy Appeal and Performances
00:02:53
Speaker
the award shows. It is the girls and it is the gays. Right. Right. So you have to get yeah And it's also a lot of like millennials, right? I'm not sure what like the Gen Z demographic is for award shows, but like we want to see our favorites, right? We also want to see some of the new people, too. And I feel like the last two years, but specifically this year, like really brought together a great blend of our favorite icons with the new up and comers. It was
00:03:26
Speaker
I just like I don't even know where to begin. Like, well, because everybody really pulled their weight last night. Yeah. Like there was no performance, even if it was for songs that I didn't really care for, weren't my favorite artists. Like they were still great performances. Like everything was done really well. Really well. You know who blew my mind? And I know she's a good performer. I know that she's a great artist. But like, I feel like she stepped into a new level of stardom last night, first of all, with her Grammy win for best rap album. Yes, yes, I knew you were gonna say it. But fuck. She's so good. She's so good. That performance was insane.
Pop Music Trends and Nostalgia
00:04:03
Speaker
Yeah. and Starting with like, I mean, that pose with her microphone behind her head. Yeah. And just like the costuming, the dancing, the posing, the camera angles, it was mind blowing.
00:04:19
Speaker
100% there's just it's it's this is someone who has done her homework like it really she's unbelievable. I love her so much on Unbelievable. Like this is what I have been waiting for. I feel like shortly after the 2009 VMAs, we went through a long period where pop music became very much like, I don't want to say lazy or sloppy, but it felt that way. It was very much in like, we're going to do away with the tight choreography, we're going to do away with the super produced performances, and it's just going to be kind of like casual and free for all. Right.
00:04:57
Speaker
And I'm not blaming necessarily anyone, but i the thing that comes to mind with that is like Miley's i We Can't Stop performance from the 2013 VMAs. That, I think, was like really what kind of started that trend or set that trend into a new level. And it felt so good to see these really tight performances last night and people really giving it their all. And people having the star quality.
00:05:24
Speaker
Well, and that's what I was gonna say. like There was something that was different last night was that the performances, I feel like, first of all, hold on, the best way that they've handled the best new artist category category was how they did it last night and let everybody perform. yes That was fantastic because now you've really just given people a front row seat to a new artist yeah and that's what the Grammy should be ah about. I'm going to assume that that is part of the change that the president, Harvey Mason Jr.,
00:05:52
Speaker
was talking about and how they listened to everybody and they diversified and did all this stuff. I feel like these are the effects that we're seeing, coincidentally, in a really good time for DEI in this country. but Right. You know, historically speaking, but it's, again, I think that that really has something to do with it. and Yeah. And the influences of that were felt throughout the entire broadcast. But yeah, but handling the best new artist category category that way was brilliant because you gave everybody the spotlight and Now you you're introducing the next generation of hitmakers, basically, because I feel like with best new artists before, like something would happen. Like what was the year it was Esmeralda Spalding?
00:06:32
Speaker
Oh, yeah, that was like, gosh, that was a while ago. But yeah, like sometimes in the early 2000s, like 2006 or something like that. And I remember that but that was like the news cycle for weeks. Like, who is that? Who is that? And I'm like, what a depressing thing to have to sit through if you're this woman. Right. And it's like, and because not only is that ah sort of an indictment of the the marketing of your ah failure of the marketing of your record label,
00:06:54
Speaker
But also just like I don't know like it just it didn't it didn't feel like the Grammys did anything to set her up better Right like if she was there and performed and had like this whole intro moment I feel like that maybe would not have happened. So I really really liked that and I think that having that as well as like the spirit of the Grammys in general being about giving back, everything with the wildfires and all of that. the The stuff with showcasing the small businesses on the commercial breaks, do that every year. Every year. I say moving forward, this needs to happen with Best Artist. Yes. yeah The only reason why I don't want to see someone performing is because they're sick or they can't make it. like like I want to see every new artist perform to give them that platform. I thought it was brilliant. It also really showed
00:07:38
Speaker
back to your point about DEI, it showed the broad range of best new artists. Like I was saying I was watching this with my friends Jill and Davis last night and I was like, we are I mean, it's it's almost impossible to pick who's the best artist because everyone is so different. You had Dochie, you had Chapel Rowan, you had Teddy swims, you had Ray. Ray's performance was blowing. She's so good. I'm so mad that she wasn't Amy Winehouse in the movie.
00:08:06
Speaker
It's so annoying. It's terrible. She she really it should have been her. She really, really should have that. But yeah, she's so talented. So talented. And her performance was amazing. Her vocals and it just and I was saying to last night. So here's like going to be a slight controversial take. And it's not a knock against Ray at all. Right. But but what I said to my friends, Jill and Davis, is that I said, you know, what I love, I was like, her performance was clearly incredible.
00:08:34
Speaker
And like her voice insane, she's an incredible songwriter. But I was like, we have been conditioned as music consumers to think that great singing like that is the only thing that matters. And what I loved so much about the presentation of Best New Artist last night is that you saw not only incredible singers like her or Teddy Swims, but you saw great rappers like Dochie who can dance her fucking ass off and put on an incredible show. You had someone like Chappel Rhone who practices drags, who also sings incredible. I mean, I would say everyone sings great. Everyone is performing, but you're seeing different performances. You're seeing different types of art.
00:09:17
Speaker
And because was like what you're seeing for the first time is that the it it it looks like the culture looks like the the community, you know, where it's like you can see like what everyone ah from all of these different places is bringing to the table and how it's making the whole so much better.
00:09:37
Speaker
Yeah, it was just absolutely spectacular. Blew my mind. And I was so happy for Dochie when she won Best Rap Album. that was And for a moment there, I was like, it is just women winning awards tonight. Like I was like, it is Ladies Night and I am so here for it. I was like, I don't want to see it. There got to a point where I was like, I don't want to see a single man on stage. Men fan dead.
00:10:02
Speaker
like I was like, I do not want to see and a man get up on that stage. And then they announced, I think it was Die With a Smile. So I was like, okay, I'll allow it because he's with Gaga.
00:10:13
Speaker
um You need to have a female chaperoned. Exactly. Gaga looked incredible last night, all of her outfits. Love it. She was just delivering everything. The California Dreaming performance was so good.
00:10:26
Speaker
Oh my god. Like seriously like those two. Like I feel like when I look at the two of them like I know Gaga had her thing with Tony Bennett but I feel like those two could sort of take that type of act to Vegas or even on tour and do like a Stevie kind of thing or like a you know Gaga and and Tony Bennett kind of thing like there's just something about the two of them together that is phenomenal.
00:10:50
Speaker
Absolutely. Like they were just, they blew my mind. I will say like, I, I need to, first of all, I know I need to get off Twitter. And the only reason why I'm on Twitter still is because of pop grave. And as soon as pop crave, I think there are threads.
00:11:06
Speaker
Are they, they are on threads. I think so, I think so. I need to get to, I need to start using threads more. And then I need to start using play blue sky more. scott Right. Yeah. I just started getting into that too. I'm like, there's, it's too many. There's too much. It's too many. I need to start bearing back.
00:11:21
Speaker
I know, right, so I need to start figuring out what's going on here. But anyway, there were rumors that were going on that they were gonna be singing Earth Song. There were rumors that Dolly and Miley and Beyonce were gonna perform. And there was a moment where Beyonce was out of her seat for a long time. So I was like, oh my God, is she getting ready? So I was like, I need to stay away from rumors. I thought she was gonna perform for a second. I did, I thought her and Miley were gonna perform. I was expecting that.
00:11:47
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, especially when like he was like talking about like the surprise performance or there was like a surprise performer happening throughout the night. And so I was like, o but I mean, the weekend was the surprise performer. That was really great. I mean, incredible. And I got i he just dropped a new album. He did. And I have to I have not listened to it yet. I have to listen. I have to listen to it. um I took a quick ah first of all, I want to congratulate him on like every song being like five minutes.
00:12:16
Speaker
ah Like it's it I have to say I really like the album. I think it's really good. There's one song I can't think of the name of it I've only listened to it like once like one and a half times so far. Oh, so um we're listening to the album here at home my husband and I and um The songs are playing and I'm like, oh, this is good. I love this. I like where we're going. It's sonically. It's fantastic It's produced really well and then we get to one song and as soon as I'm like halfway into it and I was like This must be the the Max Martin song. Like it has to be. Oh, I think I know what youre it was. It was it was it was it like open hearts, open hearts. Yeah, I love it. I love it. It's everything I want in a weekend song is in that song. I love the two of them together. The video is phenomenal, if you haven't seen it. And I noticed that he does a lot of transitions throughout the album. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I definitely recommend I i really, really do like it.
00:13:07
Speaker
Yeah. Okay. I need to, I need to give it a listen. Yeah. His performance is incredible last night. And I, I made the comment. I was like, I was like, he's not going to get accused of witchcraft because he's a man. But I was like, if you put a woman in that same performance, people would be like, she's a witch. but and it Oh, absolutely. But yeah, weekend was incredible. Phenomenal. excited I would love to see him on tour. He's one of the people I've never seen on tour.
00:13:31
Speaker
Yeah, he would be really good. and And that's the thing. Like, I love, you know, a lot. There's a lot of topic amongst, especially amongst gays, that there's like no exciting male pop stars. I understand that sentiment to a degree because it does feel like the women really do the most a lot, you know, with the costume changes and the choreography and things like that. But like, as we saw last night, I mean, the weekend put on a really good theatrical performance like that was incredible. All the dancers, all the lights.
00:13:59
Speaker
And something something tells me that this tour is going to be like the one to see, I feel like, for him. Yeah. Well, I mean, I mean, this is his last hurrah as the weekend, allegedly. Allegedly. So, allegedly. So, I mean, you never know with these people. I mean, can you imagine he comes back and you had the the artist formerly known as The Weeknd, I'm now The Weekday.
00:14:18
Speaker
oh Oh, my God. That would be kind of genius. That would be. Yeah. I'm a huge fan of the weekday. He's a new artist. He's the artist category. and Oh, Mike. I wonder. I wonder if that's like a loophole that you can do. Can you imagine? Like, like if he comes back, just like what? How do how do you say his last name, Tessa Fay? I think so. And like if he just comes back as Abel. Right.
00:14:44
Speaker
Chapel Rhone comes back with like the set the glasses with the nose attached to it. She's like, hey, guys. Hey, it's Kaylee. Right. Oh, my gosh. Her performance is amazing. So good. Like the energy. I kind of wondered if it was a commentary on i middle America at all. I know that she see she seems to love where she's from, but at the same time, like most people from the Midwest, at least queer people from the mid Midwest, like Russell with that. And so just noticing that everyone who's kind of looking, who is dressed up in the performance kind of like country had a clown face on. Right, right. I i feel like it was intentional.
00:15:28
Speaker
Right. Yeah. With her, someone like her, it does feel very intentional. Yeah. Her speech last night. So, but you know what? And it's, it's so funny. Like if, if when you start to see this more, you start to follow more people like in the industry, like that aren't just like the pop stars and you start to follow the producers and like the songwriters and they've been talking about this for so long and it feels like they've been like yelling into the void.
00:15:55
Speaker
I feel like last night with her speech was a huge moment for the songwriters and artists in general. But yeah, if you follow there's um Tiffany Redd, she's a very big pop songwriter and she's written lots of stuff for Rihanna and like a lot of different people. She is always talking about this and she's always on the crusade to sort of get better things for songwriters and she's great.
00:16:16
Speaker
And she was the first person I thought of while Chappel Rhone was speaking. And as soon as I went to her Instagram account and she was like living, I'm like, see, this is good. Like it just, we've got to get united and the message has to get out there. But I'm so happy. Yeah. And it's because it's like, I feel like we've just been conditioned so much as a society. And it's not just within the music world, but it's just like in any job that we have to hustle, hustle, hustle, hustle, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice. And don't get me wrong, there are certain types of hard work and certain types of sacrifice that yes, like it does build character and it makes you really like really grind, right? And it really puts focus. But to her point last night, like being and I love that she pointed out I was signed as a minor and then dropped for my label.
00:17:01
Speaker
Like, what are you supposed to do with that? Right. And with all the like, you know, I mean, we hear we've heard about this kind of stuff happening with like TLC and Tony Braxton, where there's so much like label advancement money that they give you. But then you have to pay it all back and then some and then you're left with nothing. And then people are like, how are these people who are, you know, Grammy Award nominated and multi platinum selling superstars broke? Right.
00:17:29
Speaker
And that's why, and to that point, that's why, like, so if you're ever on Spotify and you see, like, either songs from, like, the 80s, 90s, maybe even early 2000s, but it will catch up eventually. It sort of happens, like, within generations. Re-recorded versions or, like, i just, it's usually, like, an artist that has a song that they didn't write, that they don't own the masters to, they're sort of re-recording, like, what Taylor's doing with her, you know, with her catalog and stuff like that.
00:17:58
Speaker
but this has been going on for a long time and it's been all of these artists trying to figure out how they can do the thing that they love and take care of themselves because it's like you're up, you're down and that's it and you get left behind. It's really, it's it's a rough industry.
00:18:11
Speaker
Yeah. And so I was just really happy to hear her speak about that and and really talk about that. because i And that's something that I think anyone can feel. I mean, that's relatable to every industry is that there that companies just take advantage of working class citizens all the time i mean i there are so many companies that want you to do so much extra beyond your job ah your job descriptions and they want you to be a part of the culture quote unquote they want you to do all these trainings they want you to do ah you know they want you to do all of these like
00:18:48
Speaker
go out and and like volunteer and things like that. and yeah I want you to be, so but it's like, at what point, like ah I've always said, because in a lot of small businesses, not to like put down small businesses, but a lot of small businesses are very guilty of this by calling, be like, we're a family, we're a family. right right There is nothing stopping you from firing me for literally no reason.
00:19:09
Speaker
And then, and then what we're not a family anymore. Well, and you know what, and I used to, and I used to say that all the time and be like, you know, when you see how capitalism works, and I feel like we're really going off for a second, but right, you know, you, you do, you see that how a company wouldn't would do things that you wouldn't do to a family member. And I would say that all the time, but then I realized that I'm like, Oh, no, actually, some of you would do this to a family member. Like, true actually, you know, like, that's actually just who you are. And that's, that's a whole different story. Yeah, very true. Very true. Right. But yes yeah, I was really happy for her so happy. She won Best New Artist. I thought that was so deserved. What I don't want for her is to burn out.
00:19:47
Speaker
You know, like, I feel like it's so like, and I think that she's sort of getting guardrails around. I feel like her management team just switched recently. And I think she has new management, which is good. Yeah, um I hope so. It's I really I look forward to the longevity of a career for someone like Chapel Run.
00:20:03
Speaker
Same. You know what I also loved that I noticed last night? And I feel like this, again, this kind of goes to back to the ah rebranding of this award show and kind of the new way it's getting produced. I like that they're bringing back people who won awards from last year that they televised. yes Yes, so it's very like the Oscars and this is what I've been kind of saying for a while is that I feel like the Grammys have like been losing their relevancy Because they've been trying so hard to be cool and hip but then also like and but they're also like Doing really weird strategic moves on like who their awards that they're giving. and I don't know. It's been strange but
00:20:43
Speaker
as an award show, as someone who likes to ah watch award shows, it's it's nice to be like, oh yeah, I guess what I'm trying to say is like, for like a best new artist category in previous years, someone would win Esperanza Spalding. Would she be back the next year? Maybe, maybe not, right? I think that she was at one point, but then, I don't know, like it's just that, that happens a lot. I just feel like you don't you see people invited, they go to the award show once,
00:21:12
Speaker
And then you don't ever really hear from them again, right? Or they might reappear like two, three, four years later on the red carpet, but you never see them in the show. So I like that they're bringing the winners back. While also inviting like, you know, divas and all the, all the people we want to see it's, it's, I thought it was very well for sure. Because I feel like you you you have to bridge the gap at some point because you've got to keep everybody invested, you know, and it's, it's. For all of the people that I see for every award show, and I think this is my biggest peeve when it comes to award shows, when people online are just like, well, I guess I must be old because I don't know who any of these people are. i Nothing annoys me more than seeing that. And I'm just like, the you not keeping up with current music and culture is not the flex that you think it is.
00:21:59
Speaker
right And it's just so strange that people are so willing to admit and be like, I have no idea what what the kids are listening to. And I'm like, ah Jessica, you're 37. I need you to get it together. like you're right oh You're not I was going to say, you're not that old. And it's like, there are people younger than me who do that. Right. same Me, same. Right. And I'm just kind of like, come on. like like I get it. like it's Maybe it's not your cup of tea. There's a lot of music right now that's not my cup of tea. which Same. But I but I know at least two people are I've heard some of their songs an effort. Yeah, like oh it it keeps us better connected as people. Yeah, I'm just like, don't you have any sort of curiosity? It's like, I don't know, like, like, I i guess it, you know, it kind of reminds me of those types of people who are like, they'll be like,
00:22:46
Speaker
Oh, I don't I like music, but like, I just don't know who sings it. Right. Right. Or whatever. Or whatever or they're like, you know, i'd I listen to the radio, but like, I never like know who the artist is. And I'm like, I don't know what that life's like.
00:22:59
Speaker
i i'm like I am like on my phone, I am looking up every detail. I'm like giving me the songwriters, producers. And I don't even need you to do that. I don't even need you to do that. but But if you're just like, what's a Kendrick Lamar? I'm like, i can't I can't do that with you. Like, I can't. Like, that's too much. Yeah. And let's celebrate him. I mean... Like, beyond. he's so I was so excited. Not once, twice. Twice. Right. Yeah. i people I had people in my DMs that were like, what's Drake gonna do now? Sue the Academy?
00:23:25
Speaker
Literally. Oh, my God. That that was really cool. that he it he He was not my picks for those cat for for those categories. But when I saw him win, not only did it make sense, but it was just such a cool moment to see him get his flower. I mean, he's starting to get really grimy decorated. like Oh, yeah.
00:23:48
Speaker
Like he's got several Grammys under his belt now. I forget how many deservedly so. Yeah. And I believe he just he was the soul songwriter on not like us. yeah So and and again, back to my point, I've made this point several times, which we'll get to this in a little bit, but like.
00:24:05
Speaker
Seemingly in the big four, specifically with record song and album, the Grammys tend to lean towards artists who have minimal input with creating the songs, meaning like songwriting and production. Right. Usually it seems to be the third thread is that like, you know, it's the artist with maybe one or two producers writing the song or writing the album and whatnot. And so so when I so when he got Song of the Year, I was like, oh, yeah, that makes sense.
00:24:35
Speaker
Right, right, yeah. you know And I was so happy, and I saw DJ Mustard was up there too, which was great. I was very happy for him as well. Yes, so yeah, just so, so exciting. And it just felt like, I felt like as the award awards were giving being given out that night, everything felt correct. Everything felt correct, and also it felt like everybody in the room was agreeing in the same way, and also like was excited for other people, that for everybody that was winning.
00:25:04
Speaker
Yeah, and didn't feel forced. No. It felt it felt like genuinely like, oh, yeah, that makes sense. Like, yeah, yeah. Sabrina Carpenter getting best pop vocal album. Totally. I kind of figured it was going to be her. I was actually a little surprised. I thought that was going to be Taylor's Award. Oh, I got to be honest. I did not see her winning any awards last night.
00:25:26
Speaker
You know, i I truly went into this. I almost, I i was texting one of my friends yesterday and I was like, I'm actually kind of nervous. ah was like i I was like, I am going into this completely unsure of who was going to get. I was like, I truly could make a case for I was like, I was pretty certain that it was between Chapel Road and possibly Ray for Best New Artist. Yeah. um But for song record and album, I truly went into it and I was like, I can see a case for any one of these. I could I could totally have seen a case for everyone. My take and why I don't think that Taylor was winning awards last night was I think that the project mirrored midnights too much. yeah And I think that the team was the same, the songwriters were the same pretty much. you know And it's it sonically was very, very much similar, just maybe ah thematically was was different. right I just couldn't see her picking up and sweeping awards for a project that sounded so much like the last one. Yeah, I agree. That thats she won awards for.
00:26:30
Speaker
Right. I agree. I completely agree. Yeah. And and allegedly, like, like i social media has been ah kind of in a blaze about that. but i And honestly, I don't care because it's it's i if anything, I thought she might have won for Fortnite. Right. With the Post Malone of it all. But I didn't. Other than that, I really didn't imagine that it was going to happen. I was more surprised that Billy didn't win much.
00:26:52
Speaker
Same I thought I thought for sure she had record on the air unlock. I was like I was like birds of a feather She's a grip. She's a Grammy darling. She's an Oscar darling. She's like and the production is phenomenal on her album Phenomenal and that song was kind of like the runaway hit of the album. Yeah, and so that that surprised me more. Yeah um but Yeah, I I just everything felt right. And even though it wasn't like maybe my first pick when, when things were kind of getting handed out, other, well, first of all, cowboy Carter getting country award, best country album. I, I, I kind of thought that they were going to do that because like when they gave her the dance award for Renaissance, I was like, all right, now they'll give her the country award for this. And I was like, all right, whatever. I was literally doing the exact same thing that Beyonce did when she won album of the year.
00:27:43
Speaker
i think i made the the mean was born right ah New meme was born immediately. I was like Yeah, yeah. And that was just such, a you know, it's such a good fuck you to the what was the CMT's or CMA's. CMA's. CMA's. That's completely snubbed her. Like I you know, I don't know what happened throughout the years where people became so hung up on genre or maybe it's always been that way and I've just been kind of blind to it. But I have always stand artists who play with genre like our favorites growing up.
00:28:21
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Madonna, Janet, Cher, all like their albums were always so different. Right. Or they or get the establishment that doesn't want that. You know, crazy ah record labels are in this to make a profit, you know, so it's like they they want more of what seems profitable.
00:28:38
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But even with fans, though, like this is what I don't understand is that so I feel like something happened over the last 15 to 20 years. And I'm specifically seeing this with Gaga. Like I'm seeing a lot of conversation about her and her single choices with this new album.
00:28:55
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And a lot of like seemingly fans are like, I want her to have an espresso. I want her to have like a big radio friendly hit. And I was like, No, imagine saying that about bad romance when it first like got teased at the Alexander McQueen Atlantis show. Right, right.
00:29:13
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Like, do you understand who you're standing right now you're scanning Lady Gaga like that is not her thing to do radio friendly espresso like songs. I would say the most her most radio friendly song I feel like that she's ever put out is probably either super lover ah we'll just dance But I was gonna say like rain on me or stupid love being kind of like and even those right like she's never put out anything that's been like on trend I what went when she did the cure as that with that one single I was just like oh here's a little like you know I The Cure. The Cure is her one. Her one little reggaeton inspired bop. Yes, that was. Oh, my God. That's so. Yeah. Well, that was terrible.
00:30:01
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Sometimes Mariah doesn't have the notes. You know what? It's like, you. and My background sing is that.
00:30:11
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um No, you're totally right. The cure was that was her like, I'll do a trendy song. Right. Here you go. Right. Here it is. And we and I like that song, but I loved it. I loved it. But like, I think that we were all in agreement that we were like.
00:30:27
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It doesn't feel like you. It doesn't feel like you. Right. Yeah. And so. Yeah, I mean, speaking of Gaga, I mean, like her just casually dropping Abra Kadabra in the middle of the award show. I didn't know what was happening i like most of us. And so as soon as it started and I looked up, I was like, OK, I was like, what is this? I was like, oh, I said, this is it's a new she must be teasing something. I was like, what is this? What is this? And then as it went on for so long, I was like, are we getting a full music video? What what is what is happening?
00:30:56
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I was just I was like, I was like, oh, because I remember, again, online, rumors circulating that she was going to be releasing a new music video during the Grammys. And then it kind of switched as it was getting closer where people were like, oh, it's just a commercial. So I was like, I was like, oh, it's going to be a commercial that uses maybe a snippet of the song. I was like, so I was kind of like what SZA did. SZA did the mastercard for the last one.
00:31:20
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Yeah, so I kind of was just like, Oh, like, it's not gonna actually happen. And I was like, it'll come in a later date. And that's fine. So i I kind of just let that go. So like you like I was just like, Oh my god, like she gave us a full music video. And then of course, like everyone we were like, where is it? Right? It felt like the Super Bowl last year all over again. We were like, b Brian immediately grabbed his phone. It was like, I need it now. or Like give it to us.
00:31:48
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Unbelievable. yeah I need a wow love it. It's so good. It's so good. It's so good. So I OK, something very homophobic happened to me this morning. So I was so excited when I finally got home last night. First of all, I loved the Grammys, but like, wow, it went late last night. and So like I was a very late but past my bedtime. And um so I'm driving home last night and I was like listening to the song and I was like, I cannot wait to listen to this with headphones on.
00:32:18
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So I was like all excited. And I was like, I was like, I am going to go to the gym in the morning. And I will probably just be playing this song on repeat the entire time and getting my best life. So I get to the gym this morning. I'm so excited. I put my headphones in as as I'm walking up the stairs.
00:32:34
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And nothing connects. but I was like, excuse me, I had it charging a thought all night. My my my AirPods are completely dead. So i like they haven't worked since. Haven't worked since. I've been trying to charge them all morning. Yeah. I was like, this is homophobia. It is. right now It is. It is. It is only only at this time, only in this you know under this administration.
00:33:01
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Right, exactly. right right So I was just like. Coincidence? No. oh Not in 2025. This is part of Project 2025. It literally is. They said, AirPods dead. That's it. Take them away for the F slurs. Category is AirPods or Die. I love that red look from the video. Oh my god. The video is everything. It really is. it she ah Apparently, she directed it with Periscobal and um some
00:33:33
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I shouldn't say some woman, but another woman named Bethany. um Some woman named Bethany. That's my new drag persona. Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome to the stage some woman named Bethany.
00:33:48
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ah My apologies to you, Bethany. um Oh, my God. Just... It's hilarious. Wild. But, wow. But, like, incredible. And also one of the dancers in the music video, Honey Balenciaga, also from the Renaissance tour. Shout out to you, Honey. We love that. Love to see. And also Brian Friedman is one of the dancers in there as well. Is he? Yes, yes. Very famously from the Britney Spears dynasty. I have to say, like,
00:34:18
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I'm so grateful that Gaga has a new choreographer in Paris Gopal. Paris should just do everything. She's just unbelievable. Her ability to, because Paris has, I feel like on one hand, she's very, I was going to say she has like a signature type of movement in a way, but at the same time,
00:34:41
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It's so fresh and she's able to kind of mimic what other artists seem to enjoy. So because last night felt like very classic Gaga choreography. Right. But it was chaotic yet ah reeled in a little bit in all the best ways. Yes. Paris, to me, is always very, very good with the like the wide shots with lots of people in them. Yes. When there's a lot of things happening at the same time, I feel like that's where she really shines. like Because you can always get people to do the same sort of dance and do whatever, but like she's so good at making sense of 75 dancers in one shot all having their own sort of thing happening on screen.
00:35:25
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yeah And I think that that's really sort of what shines around Gaga in the video, because the part that I love, I put it in my story, but the part that I love is when she's like sitting down and it keeps like flashing from like red to white outfits for like 30 seconds. sad That whole 30 seconds, I was like, oh my God, oh my God, oh my God, oh my God. I'm gonna i'm gonna go on record and say, I've never seen her dance or move better. Right, in ah in a minute, in a minute, it's been a minute.
00:35:51
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I would say, like, don't get me wrong, bad romance choreography is iconic. of Don't get me wrong. But this video, I truly have never seen Lady Gaga move and dance and nail it in this way. Yeah. It was such intensity.
00:36:09
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intensity and just like, and and this is, I think, again, a testament to the choreographer for knowing how she moves, knowing what her style is like, and being able to help her hit all of those things while also kind of like reeling in a bit.
00:36:27
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sorry to this man, Richie Jackson. But like, I felt like his choreography is just so all over the place and didn't know when to kind of like scale back for a second. Yeah, we see we saw that with the choreography for Jojo Siwa. I mean, oh, yeah, that that was. Yeah, yeah that was last year. That was that was last year. It it certainly was. Yeah. Okay.
00:36:52
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But you know what? I mean, it had its moment for being chaotic. It did. That whole thing. Don't get me wrong. I actually, I don't hate the song. I never hated the song. Oh, it's an incredible song. It's a total bop. It's a total bop. Yeah.
00:37:08
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um but Yeah, I just I abracadabra. and and And it's one of those songs where when I first listened to it, I mean, I loved it immediately. But I was like, I i don't want this to be a song that like, I like it immediately. And then I'm like, ah maybe it's not something I love. I've only grown to love it more and more. Same. I think it's one of her best singles.
00:37:30
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For sure, for sure. It's so good. I just, and the blend of like, how do I even describe it? Like I i i was saying last night upon first listen, I was like, it feels like a blend between the old Gaga, AKA like Fame Monster, Born This Way era Gaga, blended with like late 90s dance.
00:37:52
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For sure. Yeah, because it's got like those pianos that are very sort of like 90s dance pianos. Yeah, totally. And there's like a synthesizer kind of laser esque sound that's oh throughout the song. The arpeggiator. Yeah. Yeah. That made me think of Gloria Estefan's Gloria album. Who also looked amazing at the Grammys last night. I was like, my queen is here. I know.
00:38:15
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ah Which is crazy because literally like over the weekend I went to Grand Rapids has this thing going on right now called World of Winter. And it's like a big winter festival that's happening all over the city. And um there was a drag show right in the middle of downtown that was free that everyone could go to. And so um a gaggle of gays and I, we went and I'll have more on this in a minute. I have some tea to spill. um But where was I going with this? Oh, afterwards we were going out to eat and I was we were i was asking everyone like who their favorite divas were and everything like that. And I was like, you know who I just feel like no one ever talks about is Gloria Estefan. Forever spreading the gospel and I love it.
00:38:53
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Got to. Got to. Got to. Yeah. And they're always like conga. And I was like, yes, conga. We love conga. But I was like, let me tell you about oye. What conga is to Gloria Estefan is what toxic is to Britney Spears.
00:39:07
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your word, what's the phrase, your lips to God's ears or whatever? right yeah Like literally, I'm not even kidding. It is that, it is that. um But yeah, Gaga, thank you for- Thank you. God's so excited. I can't believe, in like a month's time, we're about to have a new Gaga album. That's wild.
00:39:25
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Wild I'm so excited and cannot wait we're gonna have Apparently I'm assuming that this is real because I haven't seen anything say otherwise this album mayhem Contains no song that's shorter than like three minutes and 16 seconds. Oh my I there's a several four-minute songs. I mean, I'm hard Wow. Wow. She heard you. She heard you. She's obviously a listener of the pod.
00:39:50
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Listen, a listener of God, very huge fan of Homophonic. So we want to celebrate that. I mean, I do not want to brag, but I am going to brag. um Her manager has liked several of my posts throughout the years. So I have to think, I mean, granted, yes, I tag him, I tag all the celebrities and whatnot, but like I never expect them to actually engage like again. So I it I do feel in my heart of hearts that she has seen at least one of my memes before. Oh, for sure. I think so. And and and I'm hoping she knows how much I love her. And like, I think the only that the only thing I've ever dragged is just the telephone like ah continuation. Well, so then, wait, so now we're watching the Grammys and then Brian turns to me all of a sudden, he goes, huh? And I was like, what, what happened? And he was like, wait a minute. He was like, Gaga and Beyonce were in the same room. I was like, yes. And he's like, Beyonce and Miley are in the same room.
00:40:49
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I said yes. And he wait who was the third one? There was somebody else. I don't remember, but he was just like. Oh, Shakira? Oh, Shakira, yeah. He's like, and Shakira and Beyonce are also in the same room. He's like, what if it's a medley of all of her Beyonce's duets? I was like, first of all, I'm so glad we're married. That's first of all. Second of all, I severely doubt that that's going to happen. I was like, and as much as I hate to rain on your parade here, I was like, I really don't think it's gonna be a thing. I said, but I had not put that together or even thought of that, and I love that you did, but.
00:41:21
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Oh my God. I was like, I cannot even, what would you, what would be the context of Shakira and Beyonce just decided to do Beautiful Liar in the middle of the 2025 Grammys? I mean, I literally said as Shakira was performing, I said, I said, Beyonce has the opportunity to do something really incredible right now. Really incredible? Just like really just jump in there and be like, wait a minute. Cause when Shakira did her like little hand and with her hair in between her arms right thing, I was like, I was like, there it is, Beautiful Liar. And she but just comes out and she's like, hold on, how's it go again? Boom. Boom. And there was a shot, and I think it was when Beyonce won, ah spoiler alert, Beyonce won album of the year. um When she won, there was a pan shot where i mean she was seated next to Gaga. i like I think their tables were like very close to one another. And I said to my friend Jill, I was like, hello. I was like, if I was right there, I would have been like, where the fuck is the telephone situation? You're the seed filler that gets thrown out for saying such a thing. Exactly. I would be like the two of you have something explaining to do like right now. Like we've we've we're in the same room right now. Let's to chit chat. Oh, my God. But, yeah, I mean, Shakira's performance. Incredible. Incredible. She was also her birthday. So happy birthday. Feliz completely on your Shakira. Like she's 40. What is it? What is 48 48 48? I'm like at that the way that belly moves.
00:42:45
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My God. it It said it had no lies to be said. Right. No, no. A paid actor. Yeah. A ah paid actor. A paid actor, that belly. Like unbelievable. Like showed up and showed out. Unbelievable. And I really want to celebrate the fact that she performed a remixed version of Ohosa Sea. That's my favorite Shakira song that I was not expecting that. And so I was like, I was like, wow. I was just like,
00:43:09
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the giving the song flowers and also so cool too for her to perform these songs completely in Spanish like I just love again back to just like all of the broad varieties of music that are out there like Incredible. Well, I'm curious to see how this is going to go in future years now with it moving to what is it Hulu and Disney Plus and all that now that that's Is it? Yeah, I believe that that's supposed to be the thing, that after this year, that next year, I think the Grammys goes to, I wanna say so. I think we were talking about that last night. Okay, maybe I missed it. we We muted the commercials or like the part. like Did he say that like during the broadcast? I believe so. Wait, Grammys. Okay, I missed that. We also missed the first seven minutes of the show. Yeah, Grammy Awards moving to Disney from CBS in 2027.
00:44:03
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Okay. Gotcha. So they got one more year. Yeah. So I think that when that happens, I'm curious to see like, not that people are, you know, everybody's going to want to sit through a seven hour, you know, award show, but if you have the opportunity, like, could you start it earlier and maybe like actually put some of the other awards on television? Like I would like to see the dance awards be given out on television.
00:44:25
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Yeah, you know, I would like Charlie XCX, by the way, for winning best dance recording. Thank God. Yes. Yeah. Best pop dance. Right. For Von Dutch. Yes. For Von Dutch. And then for best dance electronic for Brett. does I mean, completely deserved. Right. Incredible. And also best packaged best recording package, which no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. She didn't win for she won bread for best dance to electronic. I'm sorry. I'm getting best into like band Best dance electronic recording was Justice and Tame Impala. Best dance and electronic album was for Brat, that's it. Gotcha, okay. They're really confusing the hell out of me. ah Right, yeah, yeah. And this is where like another controversial take that I have is that I don't know if the Grammys needs all of these categories. i i mean There are some that I'm like, what are we doing?
00:45:13
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I get because I get that they are are recognizing like recording in all of its forms. Right. So it's not just, you know, obviously pop music and rock and rap and Latin and things like that. But they've got, you know, best spoken word album yesterday. They they were giving in the pre-show, they were giving awards for best. What did they call it? Best historical album. And it looked like it was like for rereleases.
00:45:38
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I was like, is that, I was like, cause cause, uh, what's that Prince album pearls and diamonds? Oh, diamonds and pearls. Yeah. yeah Diamonds and pearls. yeah And, um, that, that was up for one of them. And I was like, we don't, I don't need to be giving out these types of Grammys. Yeah. I don't know about that, but it's, and even like the, the remade, the best remix recording went to Mark Ronson for espresso. Oh, good. Yeah. That's a great remix. I love that remix.
00:46:05
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It's crazy, like I look at the remi the the category, it's like the Shaboozy remix for David Guetta, Charlie Von Dutch remix with Addison Rae, Dochie, Alter Ego, the Catronada remix, and then there's like one track that's actually from like the dance music community. Oh really, what was that track? Just Alex Anteos and Julian Marley not Seize Them. I don't even know, I don't even know that song. Sorry to them. Sorry to everybody else in the category, but.
00:46:32
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I mean, i I will say, like, speaking of Charlie, though, I, I really wanted this. I'm thrilled that Calvin Carter got out of the air and we'll talk about that in a second. But like, I did want to see her get a televised Grammy. Yeah.
00:46:48
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Just because Charlie really had I mean, she's been very open about how she's had a tough time in the industry, right? She's been in this game for a very long time. Thankfully, she finally got some mainstream recognition with Brad. I mean, the brilliance of it all in the world's catching up to her brilliance. So it would have been really cool to see her get a televised Grammy.
00:47:09
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um of some sort. And I guess that's maybe what I wanted. It's not necessarily that I i needed her to win Elm of the Year or record or, so or, or whatnot. But like, I would have loved to have seen her get best pop dance recording. They should for put that they should put that one on again, because that's clearly an award for gay people. Right. But even still, like, even if it's not, like, it would be nice to have like, there's no real representation for the dance music community in the Grammys. And it's a absolutely massive market. Yeah. You know, so it's like it's like these guys are doing numbers. And it's it's I don't know, it just feels weird to not have them represented. Like I know it's mostly pop music, but yeah, I don't know. And I will say from a production standpoint, too, it they need to be better about that as well. Because like, as soon as when they when you see what's getting televised that day, you kind of know, oh, they're televising that because they're going to give it to someone big.
00:48:03
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Well, right, but not even that, but it's also like, I look at the Grammys the same way I looked at being a wedding DJ. When you go to an event and you're you're you know the first people that you set up, on the dance floor are usually the older crowd. And it's, you know, so you kind of like get them keep them involved there. They tend to leave early. So it's like you want to get them in the front of the show and whatever and kind of take care of them. In the same way, I feel like the Grammys could do like the jazz stuff and like all of these other like traditional pop and and whatever, like all of that, I think should go in the first. And if you want to join and see, you can see and yeah leading up to the dance and everything else and kind of like
00:48:40
Speaker
a progression of energy like and just really think it through it just I don't know. I hope yeah that's what happens when it moves. Yeah, because they're they do stream the pre show live on like YouTube. But it's like a three four hour show. Right is it is a long time. And so because I feel like there's not as much production. Right? Yeah, you know, like I feel like if it's thought through with some intentionality, it could be something more but absolutely yeah show show us i will say i feel like the amount of performances last night was perfect um there there was a period of time where i feel like they were just focusing on performances and they were like giving out almost no awards which is like cool i get it we want we want to be entertained but some of the performance choices were just so
00:49:23
Speaker
It just felt like so much because i I hate when award shows go from performance A to performance B to performance C. There was a little bit of that last night, but they I think they did it well. um Whereas like when award shows do that.
00:49:38
Speaker
like top to bottom start to finish that gets just gets to be a little bit much because then that's where you're like wait who performed like what happened right i feel like they did that in like the 2020 and or 2021 grammys well and i feel like at least like if it's if it's going to be a longer show like like we said how how they did the best new artist was great do it with maybe some of the other big ones like obviously can't do it for an album one but like maybe record of the year or a song of the year or like one of the and like have the big artists come by and actually do these performances and like make it like an event. Yeah. Yeah. A little like Hunger Games moment. Well, not even, but I mean, like they would do that all the time and in award shows. I feel like back in the day, like at least with the Oscars and they would do all the Oscar songs and. Right. I don't know. I think that there's a cool way to do it. Yeah, absolutely. But but seriously, a great I really, really I hope that whoever because obviously whoever did the Grammys is listening to this. Yeah.
00:50:32
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The production team Bravo, like really Bravo shout out to all of the producers that are calling the camera shots like shout out to all the. text, everybody that's that's, you know, doing it. Really, that takes a massive amount to to make happen. And it was phenomenal. So um I look forward to learning about who whoever that was. Yeah, they did an incredible job. but And we obviously then now have to mention or talk about Beyonce finally winning album of the year. Curl. And finally, I look, I am glad that it happened. I'm glad that it finally happened. I actually as much as I love Cowboy Carter and it was my favorite album, I think of last year.
00:51:09
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Yeah. i'm I'm still surprised that it's this album of Beyonce's, that one album of the year. So yes, love, so happy, so deserved, over deserved, but yeah surprised because it easily could have been Renaissance. It easily could have been Lemonade. It probably should have been Lemonade.
00:51:28
Speaker
it It should have been Lemonade. It should have been Lemonade. Like, it should have been Lemonade. Like, let's be honest, but... It really should have been Lemonade. Lemonade was that bitch. I mean... Oh, my God. It was, and it was... I mean, Beyoncé's been stepping into her own lane for quite some time, and I think that Self... I think that Four really kicked that off. Yeah. Because that's when she parted ways with her dad, as far as, like, management goes. And then, um, the self-titled album really... Was that kind of the first project she released? i feel like i'm in bat Yeah, it was the that was the project where she did where she figured out what was possible
00:52:06
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Yep. And decided to do a visual album with each album. And then Lemonade was the first one to do a full length basically film. Right. You know, encompassing all of the songs and telling a a story through her album visually. And I know that the Grammys aren't a visual medium, but like to do that in conjunction with your album.
00:52:31
Speaker
and Then that album itself. I mean talk about defying genres like well, but there is a Grammy for best music video, isn't there? Oh, yeah. Yeah yeah ah Kendrick one for not like us for the best music video last night Yeah. And then I feel like also there's a best long form oh yeah as well, which i I believe goes to I'm assuming things like Lemonade or things like maybe it's concert films and things like that. But so, yeah, I i do feel like Lemonade should have been her first album of the year. But.
00:53:04
Speaker
And then I feel like Renaissance also should got an album of the year. But you know what? I'm happy it happened. Absolutely. Happy it happened. And I do feel like cowboy Carter. I mean, the thing there's been a lot of talk about cowboy Carter. Obviously, there's all the criticism. Is it a country album? Is it not?
00:53:19
Speaker
I'm not interested in that conversation anymore. But I will say um a lot of people are like, you know, it's a good album. It's just not one that I revisit a lot, which I was like, that's fair. I was like, it's not maybe it's not in some of the genres that you particularly enjoy. But the more I listen to it, the more I hear all of the textures, all of the craftsmanship or musicianship that goes into it. And then knowing all of the history that has been inserted into this project. I mean, again, this album has been in the works for at least five, six years. It was after after that that CMA performance. Right. So, I mean, it's insane. It really is. It really, really is. Like I said, I i can't wait to see how she's going to make this all work on stage.
00:54:12
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and mama said I'm gonna go on tour. Right. I feel like her we don't have money for this. We don't. Someone someone tweeted but Beyonce, the tariffs.
00:54:23
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And I was like, seriously. Yeah, I was like, I don't have the money. I would love to go. I'm going to I'd sign up for the presale to see it like what that's going to look like. I also looks like it's going to be a smaller tour. It's it's going to be only a few cities. Only a few cities looks like more like a mini residency type of thing. Yeah. Which makes sense with this album. Totally.
00:54:45
Speaker
make sense with this album because it is an album that, again, it is very, what's the word I'm looking for? Polarizing, right? And so I'm- Well, it's for the culture. Yeah. You know? We, it is for the culture. I'm very curious what that set list is gonna be. Dear God, I don't, you know what? Like, I almost want her to lean in and like take some of her like bigger hits and make them country.
00:55:14
Speaker
Oh, yeah. Really make them eat it. I absolutely I mean, I definitely think I definitely think we're going to see daddy lessons brought back. Oh, God, I hope so. Mm hmm. I feel like I feel like didn't she do like a. Oh, my gosh, what's the Latin country?
00:55:36
Speaker
What is that called? Norteña or something like that? I don't even know. There is like a ah Spanish, like a Hispanic Mexican version of country music. And I forget the genre name, but I want to say that she did irreplaceable, the Spanish version of irreplaceable. I want to say that there's a remix of that in that style. And so I was like, do that. Right. Right. Right. Like do it after Flamenco or before Flamenco. If I get to say, if she does that, like, Oh my God, I would be so excited. You have no idea. I really like flamenco and daughter sit down and maybe even do an episode, right? ah Like just go through an episode and just like talk about what the set list could be. Like all of the possibilities.
00:56:18
Speaker
It is such a big catalog. Huge catalog. I mean, I think that it's going to be a given that she's going to the the main focus will be cowboy Carter given given Renaissance. Right. So I'm thinking that she but she'll definitely throw in some deep cuts and some hits. And so I'm very curious as to what those will be. Yeah.
00:56:37
Speaker
And we're like, will she do like the opening act thing again? Like how she opened for herself with the ballads? Right, right, right, right. Will she do that? But like maybe she'll do maybe she'll do like a mini condensed version of Renaissance and do like five songs from Renaissance. It's like the opening act. But that's what I'm kind of curious about because I'm like, it's the these are the two very, very different albums to try to bridge the gap with. Mm hmm. You know, like outside of that, that that thing, that noise at the it's on both albums, like I don't know how else you're like, like where where this all kind of goes together.
00:57:07
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but yeah yeah, I don't know. because And it's so crazy now because even like when I hear crazy in love or ah just anything from like that part of Beyonce's career, like she it just doesn't even seem like the same artist anymore.
00:57:25
Speaker
Yeah, you know, because like you yeah like I'm thinking of like a cowboy card, I think like the idea of her doing crazy and love on this tour seems strange to me. It does. Yeah, it does. And I love that she's gotten to a place where she doesn't often do a lot of her huge hits yeah like she hasn't done irreplaceable live in a very long time. She hasn't done single ladies live in a very long time.
00:57:47
Speaker
I love that about her. I love any artist that does that. I mean, Madonna does that. Kylie Minogue does that. They're like, I've got it a big enough catalog where I don't need to lean in on all of the fan favorites or and sorry, I take that back. All the big hits that the general public knows. Yeah. um And they do lean into the fan favorites. i should Yeah. No, because I feel like you're not proving anything to anybody anymore.
00:58:11
Speaker
No, you know yeah. And so, and I mean, i Beyonce loves a mashup. She loves a medley. I'm so curious as if she's gonna do that with any of these songs. And I mean, ah in the Cowboy Carter halftime show, I loved how she mashed up Riverdance with spaghetti. Like that was really fun. So I mean, that was probably, I would say the halftime show gave us a little taste of what to expect. right right She's gonna bring a marching band.
00:58:41
Speaker
i I hope it's the whole thing. I hope there's a mechanical bull. I hope that she's on the mechanical bull. I hope that, right, right. I hope it's all e the whole thing. Yeah, I need it. It's going to be it's going to be incredible. So oh, the outfits, girl, your outfit. I can't even imagine what you're going to wear, please. I already. So when I saw the halftime show, I got it in my head, I was like, if she does this and if I end up going, I know what I'm going to wear. I said I can'ty I need black and white cow print palazzo pants. That is what I want.
00:59:11
Speaker
Ooh, I love that. I want the big, like flowy, like swishy. That's what I want. I have a pair of cowboy boots. I'm ready to go. But that's, yeah, I want something like that. but At this World of Winter drag show that I went to, one of the queens ah performed a medley of A-Men and then it was another song that was not a Beyonce song. But um she started with A-Men and her outfit was insane. I wish I took a photo of it because I was like, oh, I was like, OK, inspiration for. Yeah. Robert Carter.
00:59:44
Speaker
So yeah, so good. So congratulations Beyonce album of the year. Finally. Finally. Well deserved. And look, i we were all rooting for you and it paid off this time. all for you Literally, yes. Thank God. I i think that I do think the Grammys would have had some explaining to do had it not gone to her last night. Right. And it it does kind of suck that Jay's that, you know, Jay Z's speech last year, and I was kind of like, oh, now they're going to like give it to her or like or there are people who are going to think that they gave it to her because of that speech. And I don't like that. Like I like. Well, but that's and i like I'm looking at the list and it's also like
01:00:25
Speaker
I think that there is something that stands out, like when I look at everybody that was nominated, not that there wasn't a that all of these works weren't a cohesive bunch of works because they all were on their you know in their own respective categories.
01:00:40
Speaker
but there is something different about the detailing of Cowboy Carter that stands out to me versus you know just a Sabrina Carpenter album, which is you know a collection of good pop songs. right no But it's not there's not this big arc and this through line and whatever. like it's It's a different type of attention to detail, I think.
01:00:58
Speaker
I completely agree. So looking at the list, it makes sense. Like the only one that I honestly thought was the variable, I'm like, watch Andre 3000 come out of nowhere and snatch this up with a flute album and good for her. I am good for her. And I literally I was going into it like kind of half expecting that I was like, it's I was like, they're going to avoid the controversy altogether and they're going to give it to Andre 2000. Right. and then And they're just going to they're just going to give it to him and everyone's going to just have to deal with it. yeah I went into it last night and then when I saw that lovely firefighter's face, ah you knew. right right You knew. right that was That was so fucking cool. I was so happy. I will say I wish her speech was a little bit longer. I was like, I was i was kind of, but I- I really don't think she was surprised. I really think she was surprised.
01:01:47
Speaker
Yeah, I was to say she probably didn't act. She was like, it's not going to happen. Right. It's not going to happen. So, yeah, so cool. Wild. One thing that happened before the show that I want to bring up really quick and I put it in my stories is the Associated Press. They were doing a pre-show like red carpet interview. This was insane. I was so embarrassed for this woman.
01:02:14
Speaker
Well, she did it to herself. I mean, like, I'm not embarrassed for her, like, feeling bad for her. Like, i'm I'm like, I'm like, what the fuck did you just do? this So these two interviewers are interviewing Babyface, Kenneth Babyface Edmonds. We can thank him for so many incredible songs. Icon. Songwriter, singer, producer. um ah it Truly an icon. They're interviewing him. An actual legend. An actual legend. And they and one of them stops halfway through and yells, chapel, chapel.
01:02:44
Speaker
and then gets her to come over and then he's just like mid answer, just like, uh, and then he was like, um, don't do that. And he walks away that good for him. Like I was like the rudest thing I think I've ever seen on a red carpet. And I want to say that was fucking rude, but I watched that, that like red carpet for a solid like two hours while I was kind of like finishing up some social media stuff. It was a lot.
01:03:10
Speaker
It was a lot but like, the worst interviewing that I've ever seen. Oh, yeah. Oh, it was the specifically the Associated Press one. But it was there was so many of these like, just, I don't know, just dumb questions. Like, are we still asking everybody? What would you say to a younger artist if you were gonna give them advice? Like, why? i Like, you've been asking musicians this for my entire lifetime. Like, yeah, there's got to be something else that you can get a better sound bite like literally ask them about the project that they are here at the Grammys nominated for. yeah like Talk about the work. Talk about anything. Let's get some BTS, whatever. like Just do something. like it was It was very, very lazy. it was It felt very like trying to get like a moment, like a TikTok. like there Everybody's trying to get like a clip out like moment that they can use on social media.
01:04:00
Speaker
Well, a lot specifically with these two interviewers, they just didn't seem to know how to talk to people very well. Right. That's what just kind of blew my mind it is I was just kind of like I was like, you don't sound like you're a journalist right now. You don't sound. It sounds like you were.
01:04:15
Speaker
selected, I wouldn't even say like a student of journalism. Like it sounds like like this is like you took an elective class and they selected you to go and like you did not seem prepared. no It was it was it was embarrassing. and and And that's the thing too, because like if you're telling me that I'm going to be on the red carpet and I'm going to do this, like there are you know who's going to be there literally the information is being given to you like you know who's arriving like you know the artists that are showing up you know who's nominated who's gonna be you know what I mean like it's you could do literally anything to prepare yeah be prepared you know and again and it's it's it's when you're dealing with somebody like babyface like that's
01:04:55
Speaker
That's so incredibly rude. like and just it It makes you look really, really foolish and really like just, I don't know. It was a very yeah bad taste. They're going to have to take a bow. right And every time I close my eyes, I'm going to think of that moment. Yeah, yeah. So anyway. but Is there anything else that we need to cover from this eventful evening? No, I don't think that from the Grammys. I mean, I think it pretty much, like I said, everything felt correct. It went the way that we sort of imagined. And yeah, I mean, like I said, more of this, please. And honestly, also, I do want to say I love Trevor Noah.
01:05:37
Speaker
I love Trevor Noah. He's incredible. Like keep him hosting as as long as possible. We'd love that. Oh, and I would be remiss if we didn't mention Miss Diana Ross. Unbelievable. Incredible. I was like. and See, that's how you greet a legend on stage. I'll just say that. Can I get a gay man?
01:05:56
Speaker
like seeing Kendrick talk about it like how excited he was and speechless that Diana Ross had just given you know, like that Diana Ross, right? Who? And this is wild. This is wild. Everyone get ready. Diana Ross has never won a Grammy Award. That is insanity. She has I believe a lifetime achievement award now. Right. But she herself has never she's never won for anything.
Relevance of the Grammys
01:06:19
Speaker
Living legend Diana Ross and insane. Right? Yeah.
01:06:24
Speaker
It's a wild industry. It really, it really is. It really is. So, and you know, it just kind of goes back to that conversation of like, are the Grammys relevant? Are they not? The thing is, is that I think like, yes, they are clearly relevant and it's, and it's very clear that, you know, when your favorites win, it's relevant, right? right When, when your favorites don't win, you're like, they're irrelevant, blah, blah, blah. But I will say that like, you know, awards, chart numbers, sales, these things all mean something, but also nothing at the same time. right they They mean something, but they shouldn't mean anything to the general public. they mean The only people that that the data should mean anything to are the record labels and the people who have to merchandise the stuff. like and that's ah like you're you're If you're listening to music via data, you're not doing it right.
01:07:09
Speaker
Right. Right. Yeah. Because I think it I mean, it showcases it's it's a synopsis of what's like going on in the moment. Right. It's going on.
Music Awards and Personal Taste
01:07:16
Speaker
You're seeing what are people listening to? What people are buying? Where are they? Where are they going for see their concerts? Whatever. But if you are not listening to someone because so and so didn't have a single that streamed five billion streams or whatever, like you you need to get some taste babes. right Like that's there's a lot yeah there's a lot of songs out there that have billions and billions of streams that I would argue maybe don't
Subjectivity in Music Awards
01:07:44
Speaker
deserve those. but that's what i always say like ah let's let ah Let us not forget that Who Let the Dogs Out was nominated for a Grammy. Was it really? ah Yeah, it was. I think it might have actually won too. what Was it like Best Dance recording or something like that? I think so, yeah.
01:07:59
Speaker
Let's celebrate that. you know Let's celebrate that. That's what I mean. Somewhere, the Baja men, once a year, are like, ah, that was a good year. like That was a good year. Good year. That was a good year for us. It really was, really was. you know But that's that's what I mean. like it's it's It's so subjective, and it's like just the only thing that matters is what's coming out of the speaker.
01:08:19
Speaker
Yeah, absolutely. Well, John Michael, it's gotten to that time, that time of the show.
Underappreciated Songs
01:08:26
Speaker
We have to discuss songs that we do not talk about enough. Do you have a song that we don't talk about enough? I have a few actually. And you know what? I don't know if I did. No, I don't think I did this one yet. And it's the most random one ever. And I've had it on the list for quite some time, but I opted for others in in past episodes.
01:08:47
Speaker
I love it. Tis a duet. A really random duet and was not even like a huge hit or anything. But oh, when you said Tis a duet, I was like, I've never heard of this person. I was like, no, sorry. Sorry. Tis. I'm just being stupid. is duet ti It is a duet. a duet.
Coldplay and Rihanna Collaboration
01:09:04
Speaker
And yeah, I don't even think it was like a hugely like popular hit or anything, but did have a music video and co-play in Rihanna, Princess of China.
01:09:12
Speaker
Oh my God. said Yeah. I love that song so much. It is good. That video. It's been a minute since I've seen it. You're right. It is like, it was like at the time, it was like a, it should have been a bigger hit for what, for the two artists that did it and for when it came out. Right. It should have been. Let me say, hold on. What year is that? I'm like looking this up. See what year this is. That was what, like 2014-ish? 2013, maybe 2012? This is 2012. 2012. June 2012. And it, and I want to say it probably peaked somewhere in the twenties of the Hot 100.
01:09:51
Speaker
i I don't even know. I didn't even I didn't look anything up. I just I randomly it came across whatever I was doing some work. Princess of China. It's so good. The part like there's a whole part where um Uh, you stole my star,
01:10:34
Speaker
I don't know, I don't always love all of the stuff that they put out because sometimes it's a little samey to me, but this one, fantastic. Love, love, and Chris Martin is so good. in the so good Love that. I love that. um This is not my pick, but I just want to piggyback off of that. And they did a song called Luna, I think was kind of an oak. Yep. That was like it was supposed to be for I want to say that Viva La Vida album. And it was not on the album. I want to say they released it as like an exclusive single on iTunes for something. I think you're right. But like, I don't think it's on streaming. So it's it's one of those rare tracks. Chris Martin, if you're listening,
01:11:15
Speaker
Chris Martin put put your Kylie song out. Let's go. Chris Martin, friend friend of the pod. front of the pop Friend of the pod. Friend of the Chris Martin. That's right. and Also released like the duet version of all good things come to an end with Nelly Furtado while you're at it. Yes, please.
Rediscovering 90s Electronica
01:11:32
Speaker
um my selection for songs I didn't talk about enough. i So I have been going down and this is like a shock to no one, a literal shock to no one. I've been going down a late 90s electronica binge. So different from my
01:11:49
Speaker
like, late 90s, like, dance remix binge. One, I mean, sure, to the average person, they you're probably like, it's all the same. It's not. Very different. And um I have been going down. So, and I can thank You Sexua. We need to do an episode about You Sexua. Oh, we didn't even talk about that. Oh, my God. I know. We need to do another episode for You Sexua. But thanks to You Sexua, which is very influenced by, like, rave culture, but there's a lot of, like, 90s electronica sounds throughout it.
01:12:19
Speaker
I was like inspired to kind of revisit some of my favorite artists and remixers and whatnot from that era.
Praise for a Remix
01:12:25
Speaker
And I was discovering all of these BT remixes that I never had listened to before. Specifically, there's a song called Run to You by Dina Carroll. I had never heard of her before. And BT and Paul van Dyck did this sickening remix to this song that is like part house, part break be part elect, just like this like acid, but like it is truly it takes you on a journey. And when I tell people because people are always like, you know, kind of rolling their eyes at me when I say that I want songs to be longer and whatnot, but like,
01:13:02
Speaker
or or like roll their eyes when I say I love remixes. That's a remix where I'm like, listen to this. Yes, it's long, but it takes you on this fucking journey. It starts one way. It ends another. The beats are so hard. I would say any Lady a Gaga fan that loves Shiza, you're going to love this song. Like it's just this mashing dance mix that just blew my mind. I've listened to it way too many times in the last week. Like it's insane.
01:13:31
Speaker
I live. Have you, lived have you gotten, do you know BT's mix of Sarah McLaughlin's I Love You? Yes. I love that mix. It's
Rare Remixes and 90s Eurotrance
01:13:38
Speaker
so good. It's so good. And the thing with this particular ah BT mix of Dina Caro's Run To You, this remix is not on streaming. So or I don't know whose dick I need to suck for this, but like, um put it on streaming. Okay. I actually only knew her because she did a pop version of a song called The Perfect Year from Angela Rivers, Sunset Boulevard, and had like a a hit with it and like the,
01:13:59
Speaker
either late 90s or early 2000s over there. Oh really? Yeah so like she was like really really big for a minute with that and then like that's how I knew her and then I sort of discovered her and do you know who Tina Cousins is? No. Oh God. Yeah. She's sort of, they're kind of adjacent. I feel like in voice there, they've got a similar voice, but Tina cousins also did like nineties, like Eurotrance. I would love that. ah Did you listen to the ones I sent you by the way? I did. I did. I liked, um, Oh my gosh, there was one, there was an above and beyond, beyond remix of something. And I don't remember which artist it was, but I loved that. I love above and beyond. yes so Um, yeah.
01:14:36
Speaker
Yeah, John Michael is my go to like he's the only person in the world that will know exactly what I'm talking about when I'm asking for a remix or a particular artist or like a certain type of genre sound that I'm looking for. He always hooks me up. um But I definitely have more stuff I have to send you that because there's there's yeah. Yeah, there's a lot. Love that. Yeah. What a way to what a way to end this Grammy episode. Right. With this like rare remixes of people that no one knows.
01:15:03
Speaker
Amazing.
Episode Closing and Thanks
01:15:05
Speaker
Amazing. Well, everyone, thank you so much for listening to this episode, this Grammy recap episode of Homophonic. um Until next time, take care. Bye.