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Streamer Spotlight: Noobtoons
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In this episode, Satsunami interviews the awesome Noobtoons where they discuss all things Final Fantasy and Twitch!
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Introduction to Sat Tsunami and Noob Tunes
00:00:05
Speaker
Welcome to Chatsunami.
00:00:17
Speaker
Hello, everybody, and welcome to another episode of Chat Tsunami. I'm Sat Tsunami, and joining me today for a very special Sridroomer spotlight is a very awesome streamer you might have seen around playing Final Fantasy Online. It is the one and only Noob Tunes. Noob Tunes, welcome to Chat Tsunami. Thanks for having me. Happy to be here. No problem
The Appeal of Final Fantasy XIV
00:00:40
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at all. How are you doing? Not bad. It's Friday, so even better. I'm doing okay. Absolutely. Thank God it's Friday.
00:00:47
Speaker
It's always a good day to record and stream as well, isn't it? Yeah, yeah. As I was saying there, you're of course... Well, is it right to say you're a variety streamer? I mean, not really. I tend to play the same games over and over again. It's a bit of a problem. I mean, it's just because I like the game. I do have other games that I could possibly be playing, but I really enjoy Final Fantasy XIV and I've just sort of played that a lot on stream. Would you say that's your favourite out of the group of games that you play here?
00:01:16
Speaker
Yeah, I mean it's MMO, there's a huge community and the fact that I get to play with other people is why I really like it so much. How long have you been playing it for? Actually started, I would say March. Yeah. March last year. So I think about 11 months now. It's March in a few weeks, so yeah. Has it been out for long or is it quite a fairly new game? I think it's been out for 10 years if I'm not mistaken. The only one. Yes, yes. I must have missed the train on that.
00:01:43
Speaker
After a minute, I remember there was a time on Twitch where it seemed as if everyone was playing it. I wasn't exposing my college, but I didn't realise that Final Fantasy had an online game because I haven't really played much of the games. When I saw everyone playing it, I thought, oh, that must be a new game. It's like, ah, well, whoops.
00:02:05
Speaker
Yeah, I think a lot of people tend to play when there's like a new expansion release. Yeah. So there's like a flood of people, people who have like taken huge breaks, just come back to play the expansion and they just stop playing again altogether.
Endwalker Expansion and Streaming Beginnings
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Has there been any good expansions recently or has it? Yeah. Endwalker dropped in November. It was in November or December. I think it was December, just after Christmas because it was delayed a bit. It's an amazing expansion. It's really good.
00:02:31
Speaker
It's one of the games I really need to check out. I'll say that. I'll put it on the backlog. I'm terrible for that. Do you have a backlog as well? I do. I do. I mean, Lost Ark came out a couple of weeks ago. I downloaded it on release day and I still haven't gone into it. And Elden Ring is really looking good to me as well. So I do need to get on top of that at some point. That came out yesterday, didn't it? Yep. Yep. Yesterday.
00:02:58
Speaker
Well, at the time of recording, I just want to put it in because people will be like, oh, that's been out for ages. I did hear the build up for that was like pretty intense and it seems as if everyone's been enjoying it just now. What's the streamers getting into as well? As you know, that way you see a game that's really popular and you think, yeah, I don't need this in my life. Add to the backlog. So is Final Fantasy the game that actually got you into streaming?
00:03:24
Speaker
No, the reason why I got into streaming was I was playing on another MMO, Neverwinter, and I had a group of friends that I played with, but then they weren't playing as often as I wanted, and it was just like right at the start of lockdown as well. So I thought, how would I get more people? So I started streaming in with that camera. I would see people coming to chat, trying to talk to me, and they wanted to play with me as well. And I thought, okay, this is a good way to get more people. And I think that was just how I got really into it, because there were more people willing to play with me while I streamed the game.
00:03:54
Speaker
What made you choose Twitch though, rather than something like YouTube, for instance?
Choosing Twitch Over YouTube
00:03:59
Speaker
I've had my Twitch account since 2014. I didn't use it for anything. When you get a new PC, you have the Nvidia. Nvidia is built-in. You can broadcast into YouTube, Twitch, or whatever.
00:04:14
Speaker
So I think I did all of the above. Twitch was just the only one that, you know, that seemed like he retained the video and I could understand a bit more than YouTube. I didn't think YouTube streaming was a big thing at the time. Maybe it was just me though. But yeah, Twitch was more understandable. So I just kept on like, recording all the broadcasts in the game directly to Twitch. And yeah, that was just how it started.
00:04:34
Speaker
think you're right because it must have been only Twitch and I want to say Mixer but I mean obviously as of this episode especially I think it's been gone for a good while now. Like the reason I ask is because a lot of people that like when I'm talking to them they'll say always because of like the lockdown and things like that but yeah it sounds like you've had it for a while though if it's 2014 did you say? Yeah the Twitch account yeah I just I just didn't use it.
The Origin of 'Noob Tunes' and Streaming Challenges
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And out of curiosity, and apologies because you must get this question a little in your streams and things, but what is the origin behind your username? Oh my gosh, nothing whatsoever. I think I was probably watching Looney Tunes at the time. I was just like, all right, let's just use new tunes. And then I feel like the game has been a huge barrier for my growth as well.
00:05:19
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But I like it, you know, I feel like there's just a negative connotation around the name, noob, obviously. Like there are some games, there are some games where I can't even use the name to create an account, where it's just like a, it's like a blurred or obstructed, or whatever it's called, altogether. But yeah, I just thought it was a fun name, and I just stuck with it. I think I changed it like about two years ago now, so not that long ago, because I had a different name altogether on Twitch before. I was gonna ask that if you don't do the like N, zero, zero. No.
00:05:48
Speaker
No, I was lucky. The name would have, I don't know, the name was just, it was just available. It was like first draw and it just worked. Oh, I love when that happens to you when you use a name that you want and it's the first time you're like, yes, yes. Seeing this like you've been on Twitch for a while and you've had the account, how has your experience been with Twitch?
00:06:10
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Because when I started playing, I actually played a bunch of games to begin with. This was before I even found Final Fantasy XIV, and then I fell in love with it, and I've just been playing that since. So I played A Daughter 2, I played Neverwinter. Neverwinter viewers were very nice, you know, regular viewers. They wanted to play the game, they wanted to play endgame content, and that was it.
00:06:29
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But then I came daughter to, I started playing, I think in February last year, so about a year now. I got a lot of hate in the category. I think that almost turned me away from streaming altogether. I was called names. I was, I got hate rated a bunch of times even before hit rate became a thing. People were getting into my discord and just like.
00:06:48
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calling me names saying they would do like weird things to me. That almost turned me away from streaming but you know people were like you know this is what they want they don't want you to be here. So you just like shine when you're not doing it all together you just live just one. So I looked at it from that from that aspect and I was just like okay I'm gonna stick at it. Increased like a moderation on the channel on the discord added more bots for security purposes.
00:07:12
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I think that was just like the only bad thing because I was fairly new and I put it on Twitter. Nobody knew who I was. I didn't have a following at the time. So it was kind of like I was talking into like thin air because there was nobody listening. But now a year later, if I put something like that on Twitter, I think it would definitely, you know, get some barking and people would jump on top of it and, you know, try to help me out. But yeah.
00:07:33
Speaker
No sorry, I was just going to say I'm really glad that you are getting support in that way from your community. Because especially when you're starting out, I honestly can't imagine how hard it must have been if you were coming into new and then getting so much negativity in that way. But I am kind of glad though to hear that you have built up
00:07:54
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such a supportive community. And after that, although I have worked a couple of times in your stream, I have noticed that your community seem very positive with one another and they seem very supportive when you're going through the games and things. Absolutely. Yeah, I'm very lucky. What would you say is one of your more positive experiences with streaming?
Community Building Through Streaming
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Positive experiences.
00:08:17
Speaker
I guess the reason why I started streaming in the first place is to get more people to play with and now I have countless people to play with and it makes me feel good. I like games that have a huge community aspect to it and also the friends that I've made. I know some pretty amazing people, like activists,
00:08:34
Speaker
people who actually make positive differences in my community and you know that to me is a blessing and you know I want to be at that point where I'm able to like give back as well to open comment streamers and not in the space so I think I'm just very lucky in that sense. I think that's one good thing I can say I'm very very happy about. I was gonna say it must be such like a good feeling that you can just put out a tweet saying does anyone want to play and then you'll get like tons of responses just being like nice.
00:09:02
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Yeah, especially on the Discord as well. Yeah, there's tons of people who are always available to play. It's amazing. That really must be, to be honest. Have you got any favourite moments from that? Have there been any standout moments that you've had with your community?
00:09:17
Speaker
I would say, um, like recently with the Endwalker expansion, I didn't play the expansion right away. And then when I played it, like literally I had like over a hundred, almost 200 people just watching. And they all wanted to play with me. I thought that was insane. It was just like, whoa. Did you say over 200? Sorry. Almost 200. Yes.
00:09:36
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On the day I did the final, the final map. That was really shocking to me. Like everybody wanted to play. I was just like, Oh my gosh, this is the most overwhelming feeling ever. It almost brought me to tears at the end of the stream because I wasn't actively looking at the numbers. When I finished and I saw my average, I was just like, Whoa, that is insane.
00:09:52
Speaker
whenever I've seen you go live on Twitch you have so many people and sorry when I say this I don't mean to put pressure on you be like wow you've got so many people watching you how do you cope but genuinely I don't turn on the numbers because I don't want to know oh god I can imagine but it's amazing though how you've had like and I mean obviously for good reason because your streams are awesome but it is like amazing to see how many people are like tuning in and just
00:10:18
Speaker
Yeah, given that support really and wanting to play with you because
Twitch Community and Activism
00:10:22
Speaker
honestly, I think I would faint if I saw that number on mine. I would just be like, how many? No, turn off those views. No, no, no, I don't want to know.
00:10:32
Speaker
Exactly. It can be overwhelming, especially if you don't get that kind of number all the time. Like I did it and it was just completely random. I know what you mean. It does seem like a kind of double-edged sword, doesn't it? It's like, on the one hand, it's great you're getting this visibility, but yeah, it's kind of hard to keep up. Like, would you say when you get days like that, it's harder to keep up with
00:10:53
Speaker
about things like the chat. Have you seen any kind of change from when you started streaming to where you are now? I don't know. I feel like they're more activist on Twitter now and I like that Twitch is actually listening and making changes based on what people were complaining about. Yeah, other than that, I haven't seen much. Yeah, I haven't seen much. Maybe I'm just not paying much attention but nothing in particular stands out to me right now.
00:11:21
Speaker
I was actually going to ask, because I noticed one of your tweets talking about being one of the faces of, was it black brilliance a month for Twitch? Yeah. Yeah. So currently it's Black History Month in the US. So yeah, I guess that's a different thing. So usually
00:11:38
Speaker
There's one in the UK in October. So the one in February is actually the US Black History Month. So Twitch reached out a couple of weeks ago, like early January. I'm asking if I wanted to take part. They asked over a thousand streamers if they wanted to take part. So basically the reason why they picked that many was because there's a survey thing in your streaming dashboard.
00:12:04
Speaker
your settings that you can feel and then I think maybe they query this and they see the bunch of streamers and then they just pick you that way it's not like you know it wasn't like a special thing so yeah so obviously I identify as black I am black so they reached out to like a bunch of us that way and um
00:12:21
Speaker
put everybody on the on the on the carousel on the front page so it's not like the main carousel it's like a shelf at the bottom of the of the main carousel like a third shelf or something so i think everybody expected it to be like a really like um obvious change or difference for the month but not a lot happened with that unfortunately within like i guess we're expecting like more views like more uh more people in the streams but that didn't happen because um the shelf is just like really low
00:12:47
Speaker
Barely anyone saw it because you would have to scroll like a couple of times to actually see that shelf. That was very criticized on Twitter as well by people who, like people who took part and people who didn't take part because yeah, it wasn't, it wasn't what people expected it to be. They thought it could have been better. I think there was also the thing where it's, it's a US based holiday or month, but then they extended to the US, UK folks as well. So there's a lot of like, uh,
00:13:12
Speaker
you know confusion around that like why did they do that because um last year um there was a black history month uk that was the first one that ever happened so people were thinking maybe the one next this year in october might not happen since they've done everybody together this month so um we still don't know what twitch is going to do about that um it's just like speculations really
00:13:31
Speaker
But yeah, I think that was different from what happened last year. I wasn't a big part of a, well, I wasn't really streaming at that time last year, so I don't know what happened, but apparently it was just like US focused and now they've included the UK. So that is kind of different. In a way, I suppose it is good that they've started to try and do that, but it sounds as if it's like a lot of the same problems that Twitch have when they try to put anything
00:13:56
Speaker
if it's about promoting black creators or if it's about just in general with other changes on the platform, it either comes out very, very slowly or it's just something that comes out and it's, as you said, it's not at the forefront because with a website like Twitch, you've probably seen it before with other websites where if they're promoting something, they'll always have it at the top of the page.
00:14:21
Speaker
you're exactly right if you wouldn't know if the carousel was like further down. Yeah, you wouldn't screw that far. That just sounds quite disappointing to be honest. Yeah, it just seemed like some weird experiment that they were doing which was kind of sad because there's a thousand people involved and I think they could have been more honest about what they were doing. Because I mean I remember seeing the promotional video on, I think it was their Twitter page,
00:14:47
Speaker
where they had someone who was showing off all these creators saying, oh, they're absolutely fantastic and everything. And they checked them out. Now, I was just going to say, it seemed as if from that video that it was going to be a big deal. They were just showing off so many creators and you thought, wow, they're really putting their all into this. Wow, this is amazing. And then, of course, as you said, it's like at the bottom,
00:15:13
Speaker
Yeah, but those creators were the successful ones in the experiment. I'm not sure how. Maybe Twitch is doing something to feature those creators a bit more. But yeah, those creators were successful in this event. They got a lot of publicity that way. And yeah, they were successful. So I'm not sure what happened to the rest of us really. Were they already prominent streamers before that? Or
00:15:36
Speaker
you mean those people? Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely. Yeah, yeah. Because I know obviously when in general whenever Twitch have like a promotional thing and they're trying to promote other streamers, they always get like the face of you know like whoever they're like whatever group they're promoting for and it seems as if
00:15:54
Speaker
I see what you mean. It's like they would be the ones getting the benefit there and the ones getting introduced in the video because I suppose it's like you said, oh, so-and-so and popular streamer here, they're going to be on this. You're like, oh, great. But you're completely right. There's an inherent problem of, well, they've already got the audience.
00:16:16
Speaker
Uh, who knows what they're doing in Twitch. Uh, we just, yeah, we just hear like, uh, we don't really hear anything. People just speculate, you know, I'm still grateful anyway, because, um, even though I didn't like, uh, get like a thousand viewers, um, from the, from the thing, um, I still got like a lot of people who were like,
Balancing Followers and Viewership
00:16:33
Speaker
Oh gosh, uh, another black streamer. Well, I'm going to support you. Let me just follow you on Twitter kind of thing. So it was good in that sense. But, um, other than that, it wasn't much on Twitch. It was everywhere. I was spot Twitch. Oh, thanks.
00:16:43
Speaker
That's the worst thing, isn't it? You're trying to promote one particular website and it's like, oh, you do so well everywhere else. And then when it comes to like Twitter or something, you're like, where's everybody going? As of now, whenever I go into your profile, it just looks as if the number of followers and viewers just keeps going up and up for you, though. Yeah, but I wish that translated into views. I don't know.
00:17:11
Speaker
I've noticed this weird thing where people just enjoy you saying their names. Yeah. I don't know. People just coming in. Oh, they see a streamer and say, oh, I want that streamer to say my name. So they follow. And I have this thing where if somebody follows, I full on pronounce their name or at least try to welcome them into the stream.
00:17:27
Speaker
Uh, so I feel like that's, that's the only reason people follow. I don't think, I don't think they have any interest in actually watching it because I have like, I have about 3000, I think 3005 now followers. And, um, yeah, most of them don't come back. Cause if I go into analytics and I go into like, um, people who actually watch the stream, they're not my followers, believe it or not.
00:17:46
Speaker
gonna ask if you ever had like whenever a person comes in because I know this is like quite a common problem but have you ever had it when someone comes in and says oh I'm not stopping I'm just saying hey and then I'm getting prepared for my own stream or things like that?
00:18:03
Speaker
i have that loads of that loads really oh i mean i i don't like tell anybody off or anything like that um i don't know but i find like they never come back they do one time and i i never see them again i'm like what what is the point of that i don't get it like if you try to be like at least a part of my community or whatever um that makes sense but you're just telling people you're streaming and then you're gone do you just expect them to just come over i don't i don't understand the mindset i really don't know when people do that it just seems as if
00:18:33
Speaker
they are thinking that as soon as they go into a really popular streamer's chat, and obviously you've got your tech night community and other streamers will have their tech night communities, did they really think that a stranger is going to come in and be like, oh, I'm streaming, I don't know, latest FPS 2022? And then your community would be like, oh, right, okay, let's go.
00:18:58
Speaker
I don't know maybe that's what you think but I find it a really weird thing that's what I'm saying like I don't try to like stop them or call them out I just I just scream a little like okay the worst thing I've ever said is okay more than that I'm just like oh okay good luck oh see you soon that kind of thing but I never see them again it's it's very strange
00:19:18
Speaker
See in terms of like self-promotion, do you get a lot of that in your streams? Yeah, there was one that was like really, really obvious. I mean, I had like maybe 30 because it was like maybe six months ago. So I had maybe like 30 people in the channel at the time. And then this person comes in and go like, oh, I'm doing like a giveaway today. I'm playing Final Fantasy X or whatever. You should come over and watch. I'm just like, I'm seeing right here.
00:19:41
Speaker
Why are you doing that? I mean, I didn't say I was thinking it to myself, I was just like, what are you doing? I think by far the worst one I ever had, maybe it wasn't as bad as that, but the worst one I had was I was playing, I think, Fall Guys on stream and I brought a story up a hundred times, but I was playing Fall Guys and this person spammed the link for the YouTube channel and they were like, oh, can you review my latest video on your stream? And I was like, what?
00:20:06
Speaker
First of all, I'm streaming in PlayStation. This was when I was directly streaming. So I'm like, first of all, no, physically possible. Second of all, what makes you think that I'm going to stop everything? You'll just drop it and then be like, you know what, C for you, random user 42, just for you. I'm going to review your video. It's like, come on, have a word with yourself.
00:20:29
Speaker
I don't know I really don't know why people think that's okay I mean like I never I never actually I know some people before they even go on start streaming they try to like find out about Twitch the community and how it works in general I never did that but I knew I knew that was a wrong thing to do I would never go into anybody's stream and be like oh right I'm streaming this game as well you should come check me out I would I don't know
00:20:51
Speaker
because there's a lot of, I don't know if you've seen this before, it's like something I like to call hustle culture almost. It's like people who, and don't get me wrong, you know, if people are working towards a goal, that is perfectly fine. There's a lot of people who seem to misunderstand what it means to like, first of all, work hard versus spam your link everywhere. I think currently I've got somebody in my Instagram that keeps spamming me saying, I'm going live, you know, it's like... Oh yeah, I have that as well.
00:21:20
Speaker
Yeah, and I'm just like, thank you. And this isn't like somebody I know, I just want to preface that. It's someone I think I followed. I think it's a Spanish streamer, but like I followed them once and then all of a sudden they keep messaging me being like, I'm live on Twitch, or Estoy Vivo on Twitch. And I'm like, what? No!
00:21:38
Speaker
So there was a video on Twitter a couple of weeks ago, but another streamer who was talking about people who go into people's discords and send live tweets. And this streamer made a really good point. The time that you're investing in doing that, you can post it on your Twitter, you can post it on your Instagram. You're actively finding your people and making sure they come.
00:21:59
Speaker
but you're going into somebody else's Discord and sending that. They're there to support that person. Nobody would bother to come check you out that way. So it's literally the same thing. Like the energy that you're putting into sending you that link, you can literally just put it on the Twitter or somewhere and tag everybody or whatever. It would do more than just sending you a DM. That would have taken a lot of energy because I'm assuming it's not just you that it's been sent to. Oh yeah, it'll be like an email. Select all.
00:22:25
Speaker
Yeah, so that must take a lot of energy. I feel like that's the wrong way to go about it. Speaking of that, that happened to me like I think just before the end of my first year in streaming. I think it must have been 2020 and there was a guy I met and he seemed really nice initially, but as soon as I invited him to the Discord, he was just spamming his going live link everywhere. I actually checked out his stream
00:22:52
Speaker
and it was awful. And I don't usually say that about anyone. I don't want to be like, oh, I'm going to put him down. But he wasn't interacting. He was blasting music. He was just laughing away, even when they were putting messages in. So it's like, why? I just don't get it. I don't get why anybody would think, oh yes, this is the way to go to be a successful streamer. Would you say then that networking is a really important part of the whole streaming?
Networking and Advice for New Streamers
00:23:22
Speaker
I'm not saying it's bad. I tend not to. I tend not to. I think for me it's more like the way that I am programmed because I feel like if I do anything like that people would just assume I'm trying to like cloud chase if you get what I mean. I feel like every streamer that I've met has just been like a completely random coincidence that I've networked with.
00:23:40
Speaker
So I think the first streamer that I met who was also another black streamer in the UK was ReadySetBen. And it was because he was recommended to me on Twitter. I went to his channel, checked him out, and he turned out to just be like a positive, amazing person. And before I knew it, he rated me on the same day. I'm just like, whoa, how did that happen? I never told him I was a streamer.
00:23:59
Speaker
I don't know how he found me, but somehow he did. So you just being there and your community, some people were genuinely nice. They would just come check you out. They'd be like, oh, you're a part of my community. Let me just see what you're about. And if they see like, oh, your content is good, definitely I'll come support you. And the day he raided me, he raided me with like a bunch of other streamers that I looked up to as well. Obviously they didn't know I existed. So they came to the stream and everybody was like, oh, she's another black girl who streams 14. And, you know, I think that was the first time I kind of got like some type of publicity and met a bunch of people
00:24:29
Speaker
way. I don't know. I never really did any networking like that. I think I just got lucky really. But that doesn't mean it doesn't work. I know like some people who like collaborate with other streamers and they've just found success that way. Especially if the energy is the same and they don't have the same things. So the community sort of like merged together in a way. I've seen that happen multiple times before and
00:24:50
Speaker
quite successful. So I'm not against connecting and making connections with other streamers. It's just the way that I went about it was slightly different. No, absolutely. It's definitely, and I think I've said this before, but it is like a very, but when I say it, I mean Twitch, Twitch is like very random in the way it like kind of chooses people to be successful. And by that I don't mean like there's like a big person sitting behind a desk at Twitch saying, that's what they're going to be successful.
00:25:19
Speaker
or it's just like a wheel where it's like, who are we going to choose today? It's completely by coincidence because I know what you mean. Thinking back to something you said earlier there, when I started as well, I didn't really have a brand as such before I adopted what it is now. I was putting out going live tweets and things like that. It really wasn't working. I was putting my link in people who were asking for it, tweets, rather than
00:25:47
Speaker
And even then I felt really bad because I was just like, this feels, this just feels wrong because it's like I wanted to promote myself, but then there's that kind of, you know. Oh, I did that too. I'm not sure if I said I did, I did that too. So, you know, like there's some Twitter accounts where they're like, oh, put your link down below and find followers.
00:26:05
Speaker
I did that. I even did follow for follow. I'm not even ashamed of it. I did it in the start because I didn't know who else. I didn't know how else to connect with people. I didn't know how to find people. This was before the tags, by the way. So there was no way you could find other people like you. So to me, I felt like I felt alone. Like there are the black streamers. Where are they?
00:26:23
Speaker
Because I don't know. So I put links in like, um, I'll put your links below. We'll follow you. You get 10 followers. I did a bunch of that in the first two months that I started streaming and I got a lot of followers. At least I got, I'll say 200 from doing that. I even found like some discords, like a support streamer discords. I did that as well. Um, I would go check out the other links that we posted. I would go follow them. And sometimes they came back and it followed me back. So.
00:26:47
Speaker
That was good. It worked. But then when I started like growing a bit more, I noticed like these people don't care about my content. They will never care about my content. So I just, I just stopped doing it altogether. And now that I've joined a couple of teams where we talk about, you know, like things that could possibly help you grow and things like that. I've noticed like, it's a completely different way that Twitter works. You spamming hashtags and things like that probably doesn't always do what you think it's doing. So yeah, I take a completely different approach now.
00:27:13
Speaker
No, I know exactly what you mean, especially at the beginning, because I did the same thing, putting in my link, getting some people to support. And I rightfully, I checked them out as well. Sometimes I thought, oh, they're a great streamer. Other times it's kind of like, I don't know. Because mainly, and I don't want a stereotype here, but there are a lot of
00:27:35
Speaker
mainly FPS streamers that don't talk a lot and they want to be the next, I don't know, ninja or insert any successor streamer here that plays these kind of games. They just don't interact. And again, if you're doing challenge runs or something, that's completely different.
00:27:54
Speaker
you're not going to talk or you actively say or identify yourself as a mute streamer so you're not going to like talk, that's fine. But the fact that you were kind of going out your way to spend time with these people and watch them play and things, because in a way it is like quite a very social thing, isn't it? Yeah, yes it is, it is, absolutely. And I would even class myself as a shy person but you know it's
00:28:16
Speaker
completely different like when I stream because I'm in my personal comfort zone right it doesn't feel like you know that shine is just so like goes away which I in the last year I found a lot of side of me that I didn't even know existed and I'm very happy I even um I even started streaming all together I'm very happy that's amazing to be fair that's just kind of sorry I'm laughing because I'm thinking
00:28:37
Speaker
I'm the exact same. In real life, I'm a very shy guy. I hate phone calls and things like that. I look at my phone and I'm like, I don't know your number. Nope, not today. I say that even though right now I'm doing a podcast and I reach out to you, of course, and I'm just like, yeah, do you want to come on a podcast?
00:28:58
Speaker
Of course, we're amazing and we're like, yeah, sure. But yeah, I know exactly what you mean. And especially when it comes to like Twitch as well, you kind of take on like a whole different persona, don't you? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You're in your comfort zone. So it doesn't really, it doesn't really, all that, you know, shyness just goes away because you're just in your, you know, happy place. You're just doing what you would do if you were alone in a room. And yeah, so it's completely different.
00:29:24
Speaker
I was just thinking you do turn into a different, more confident version of yourself. But I have to admit, I'm not brave enough to do the face cam thing because for the longest time I was a no-face streamer and then I moved on to using a model. So I'm actually quite curious. What inspired you to use a face cam?
00:29:44
Speaker
I hope this doesn't come off as negative. No, not at all. It's just for funny reasons, really. I feel like I look a certain way, maybe that would help. So I turn on my camera. I have days where I don't want to be on camera. Don't get me wrong. Days where I just like, okay, I don't want to put on makeup today. So maybe not have the camera on. But I feel like because I've always been a face camera, I'll face streamers anyway. It's kind of hard for me to just do that without people asking what's wrong or whatever.
00:30:12
Speaker
you know I don't want to bring that kind of energy into the stream and be like okay I'm not feeling great today. So days like that I just end up cancelling the stream altogether or so it's literally just for venture reasons. Would you say that is like an important part of streaming to like kind of take breaks for yourself and know when to like have time to yourself? Absolutely because if you're going to be entertaining people you want to be older you don't want to be like half energy type thing.
00:30:39
Speaker
I want to bring all of you, you know? I feel like people will sense like the energy is different if you're, you know, you're not in the right headspace. But don't get me wrong, I still go live sometimes when I feel that way. And usually streaming does help. It gets me out of that, you know, that headspace. And that's another reason why I do love streaming. Like days when I'm feeling down and I go live, it's always like ends up being like an amazing stream. But yeah, if you feel like you're not even hop for it altogether, I would advise not doing it. Not hoping, expecting that you would change just when you go live.
00:31:05
Speaker
because I think that is, especially for new streamers, I think that is a very significant misconception that when people are saying, oh, if you wanna be a successful streamer, you have to push your style. If you have to work 24-7 on your stream, you have to do this. No, that's not healthy. That is not healthy at all. And you don't even need a cam to be successful. Sometimes energy, the energy is right. People will come around and hang out with you. So for me, like I said, it's just for vanity reasons, you don't need a cam. And I've actually been thinking about making a V-Tuber model as well.
00:31:35
Speaker
Yeah. So for days when I don't feel like I don't want to wear makeup, I would turn on my VTuber model and people would take that as it is. If you're here for me, you'll be here. I'm actually thinking of one in particular, you know, VR chat. There is a... Oh, yes. So you can make models that way. But yeah, I'm thinking more that direction where I can make a model and then use that model as a VTuber. Yeah. Because I think they look really nice. Why not?
00:32:00
Speaker
It is quite fun as well because the reason I do it personally is it gives you a way to kind of express yourself without having to show your face. And as you said, it's like if you're not feeling great that day and you really don't want to show your face on camera, because after a minute I work in a job where I have to show my face on Zoom and it's so crushing.
00:32:22
Speaker
I never used to, but then somebody changed the rules and now we're all on camera and it's like, oh God, this is, yeah, but I know what you mean. It's like, if you don't want to be on, but yeah, it's, yeah. The moral of the story is like, screw him.
00:32:40
Speaker
But what would be your advice to upcoming streamers? Yeah, there's one that another streamer talks about that she swears by. She goes by Ebonics. She's a Twitch ambassador, actually. Hang around Twitch. If you're thinking about doing it yourself, just see what the community is like. So the do's and the don'ts, because I feel like there's people who go into people's chats and advertise that they're going live.
00:33:02
Speaker
Um, they didn't, they didn't know what the culture was like. And then that's why they do things like that. So, um, just in case to be safe, hang around other communities, other streamers, see what they're like. And sometimes you view like a, cause sometimes when you're in the, somebody else's streamers chat and you're frequent there and you're regular.
00:33:17
Speaker
You will have other people from that streamer come support you because they know who you are, you know, you've shared experiences with the other streamer. I found that as well in my community. I found people that I've rated, that person is a regular in my chat. They go and, you know, they follow that person and, you know, they go hang out with that person as well. So it's a good thing to just get to know other people. It's a good way to connect as well. You don't have to tell them about your streamer. Sometimes they would just find out.
00:33:43
Speaker
Also, be consistent. I think it's good to have a schedule as well. So people just sort of like know when to expect you and sort of like walk you into the routine. I feel like for me on the weekends, that's when I get the most viewers. So people feel like, oh, I wake up on a Saturday morning. I have a lot of any viewers as well. So it's a bit weird. So they wake up on a Saturday morning and they turn on their Twitch and I'm already live. So they kind of like walked me into their day to day on the weekends in a way. So be consistent in that way. But, you know, if you do need a break,
00:34:12
Speaker
take one. You don't have to sacrifice your own mental health for views. I absolutely don't recommend that. A schedule would be consistent. Find another streamer to connect with to do some research type thing before getting started into a whole streaming journey would be my advice. Because at the end of the day, first of all, we have absolutely fantastic points. Is that kind of way of trying to find your community, isn't it?
00:34:38
Speaker
Exactly, exactly. Because it feels as if a lot of people, I mean myself included right enough because I knew nobody on Twitch. Like it was actually one of my friends who during the 2020 lockdowns was like, oh, why don't you start Twitch? And of course I started and it was only my friends that were kind of popping in, like in real life. So I had like a very small following to begin with, but I was like,
00:35:01
Speaker
I always say this and I feel bad because I don't want to be like, oh, it's just my friends. I don't want to be dismissive. They're absolutely fantastic. But it wasn't until, as you said, that I started mixing with other groups and watching other streamers popping into the chats. And obviously, it's trial and error, isn't it?
00:35:22
Speaker
you're never going to get like every time you're never going to get that one streamer that is you know they're going to be perfect every time sometimes you think I don't like their vibe or whatever and that's okay. Would you say that's important as well like knowing when to say okay this you know streamers not for me I'm going to move on?
00:35:41
Speaker
Well, yeah, absolutely, absolutely. I mean, like, although you could still, you know, be in the same industry and, you know, support each other, but you just don't enjoy their content. Your content is not for you. I don't think there's anything wrong with, like, just removing yourself from the space. I have a lot of streamers like that that I...
00:35:57
Speaker
We have the same community, I support them in other ways. If they post something on Twitter, I would like it, retweet it. But I don't actually watch them because the energy is not for me, that kind of thing. I don't think there's anything wrong with that at all. There are other ways to support people in your community without being in every stream or that kind of thing, just if the content is not for you. A lot of people that I tend to have that kind of relationship with are like FPS streamers because I personally don't like guns, so...
00:36:20
Speaker
want to be like uh in streams where there's like shooting happening and they're usually very loud so i don't i don't tend to like go to streams like that but otherwise i support them in other ways um retreat um like their content yeah all the ways to support people you can be you know cordial and get along in the same industry without actually you know even though the current is not for you i don't know if i'm making sense but you know that absolutely makes sense yeah at the end of the day you are gonna get
00:36:45
Speaker
people on Twitch looking for different content creators you're going to look for. As you said, you're not into the FPS genre, so that's obviously not something you're going to check out. And then vice versa, someone might not be into Final Fantasy or platformers or Fall Guys, which turns out there's a very vocal majority there, but that's another story.
00:37:06
Speaker
But yes, on Twitch there is something for everyone, and I do think it's fantastic that although, as you said, you might not be into those kind of games and things, you're still being supportive by retweeting and things like that. And I do think that's a very important thing for people to do, like be supportive and kind of prop each other up as it were. And yeah, so thank you for doing that.
00:37:33
Speaker
see honestly on that like really lovely positive note like thank you so much for coming on today's episode thank you for having me i've never done anything like this was fun it was good good first experience if somebody else asked me again i would definitely do it oh thank god it was good because i do worry because the majority of people who come on say oh this is my first time on a podcast and i'm like okay satsu no pressure
00:37:54
Speaker
I'm glad that he didn't say his part then. No, as long as you enjoy it, that's the main thing. Yeah, this is fun. But before we finish up, where can these lovely listeners at home find your content?
Where to Find Noob Tunes and Chat Tsunami
00:38:05
Speaker
Find me on Twitch at noobtoons. Yep, that's it.
00:38:09
Speaker
Oh, is that it? Okay. God, that was a short and sweet one there. I was like, at the edge of my seat, like, what's the rest? No, and I'll see this. Everybody listening at home, go check out Newtoons. Fantastic Streamer does amazing content. As I said, your community's lovely as well. Thank you. Yeah, you do awesome. I really do. So yeah, thank you as well for being so positive in the Twitch community and everything. Thank you, thank you. I was going to joke and put in an extra compliment for another thank you.
00:38:39
Speaker
I'll stop now. But yeah, thank you again. And yeah, thank you everyone for listening. If you want to check out more Chat Tsunami content, then you can check us out on Anchor, Spotify, iTunes, YouTube, and yeah, really any good podcast app. Just look for the red panda under the name Chat Tsunami and yeah, you'll find us there. But until then, thank you all for listening and until next time, stay safe, stay awesome, and most importantly, stay hydrated.
00:39:29
Speaker
Bye guys.