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Streamer Spotlight: StubbornZombie
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In this episode, Satsunami interviews his friend and fellow streamer StubbornZombie. From streaming experiences to anime, the duo discuss how it feels to start streaming on Twitch in the year 2020.
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Introduction to Chatsunami Special Episode
00:00:05
Speaker
Welcome to Chatsunami.
00:00:17
Speaker
Hello everyone and welcome to another special episode of Chat Tsunami. And as you can see by the screen, joining me today is another fellow streamer and another fellow Brit as well, which is quite nice. Joining me today is StubbornZombie. Hi there, thank you so much. Hello! Yeah, thank you so much for joining me today. It's been a pleasure already and we've only just started. Exactly, yeah. That's how good Chat Tsunami is, you know.
00:00:47
Speaker
So before we get into the main points of what we're going to talk about today, just pretty much about our streaming experiences and everything outside of that.
Exploring Variety Streaming with StubbornZombie
00:00:59
Speaker
So do you want to tell everyone who's listening just now what kind of streaming you do on Twitch?
00:01:05
Speaker
Yeah. So yeah, I'm stubborn zombie. I'm a British variety streamer. I'm from England. And basically I play like a lot of variety of games. Most of them tend to be games with my viewers. So I do like a lot of Among Us, SCP, them sort of games, but I am sort of branching out into roguelikes. Like I'm doing Hades on Saturday, which is a very fun, but yeah, just a variety streamer basically. And I have cute chibi zombies. So yeah.
00:01:34
Speaker
Come and see the cute chibis. That's it. Yeah. I mean, it is a good combo. I mean, variety streaming and chibi art. I mean, what more could you need? Exactly. Yeah, it's true. And it is definitely a good mix of games as well. I mean, I'm biased because I'm also a variety streamer. But I always say that. Whenever I hear someone else is a variety streamer, I'm like, whoo, variety streamers representing.
00:02:00
Speaker
Hell yeah. It's so good to just sort of branch off into what you want to do and then you get to find out what you'd like and what you're good at, which is really good. Definitely. And I mean it lets you kind of settle in, doesn't it?
00:02:14
Speaker
Yeah, because I don't know it's the afternoon variety stream and I don't know about you but I can't imagine like just settling into one game. I've tried to do Brimworld a couple of times and it's one of them games that I do enjoy but I couldn't just sit there and play it for like hours on end or anything like that like you just have to play it like one day maybe and then give it a break for about a week or two.
00:02:39
Speaker
because I mean I remember like I think it was a couple of weeks ago although it could have been longer but I started getting into Red Dead Redemption 2 like great game and everything but my god is it a long game like not as long as something like Persona 5 or you know like one of those games yeah
00:02:58
Speaker
But my god, is it like, it's a really good game and I did it like for a couple hours like every Monday for a while. And then I got to the very end and then there's like an epilogue on top of that, which is also a couple of hours. And I was just like, it's like splat into two parts and you're just like, no, no, I can't do it.
00:03:18
Speaker
thought it was done why is there more you said it was over and the game's just like i never said that you lied but yeah no great game just is is one i think you have to really really be into if you're gonna like do it every week because i know a lot of streamers like for games like that especially they'll do the side missions i mean that was me just going through the plot like just barreling through it probably not playing it as
00:03:45
Speaker
It was meant to be played. Like, you know, like you'll have like a woman on the side of the road or like a broken down caravan or something like that. Yeah, you're just kind of like, yep, nope, I've got plot to do. I'm sorry, ma'am. I'm sorry, woman. Be gone. Let me go. And yeah, it's just a good game. Just very long.
The Art of Raiding on Twitch
00:04:08
Speaker
Kind of, as I said before we go on, I'm actually trying to remember about how we both stumbled across one another on Twitch. And I can't remember if, because this is the thing, this was something I was kind of talking about last time with Blowfish Man who was on. And yeah, it seems to be either through raids or genuinely just by coincidence.
00:04:35
Speaker
like the right place at the right time, if you know what I mean. I actually can't. Sorry. No, no, I was just thinking like, because I remember seeing your name on Twitter in a lot of them, because unfortunately I apologise to the audience. I used to do a lot of follow for follow.
00:04:55
Speaker
you know, guilty. I think we've all been there though. Yeah so like I remember doing them sort of posts and I remember seeing you because people had shared your stuff around before because this was when you were trying to hit 1k so I remember people other people sharing your stuff around I think one of them was green actually sharing your link around for people and
00:05:17
Speaker
I remember I followed you because, you know, it was just like, I'm just going to follow over streamers. And then you raided me that very day, actually. Yeah. So I've just got a message here from a moat saying that it was after a fall guys raid. I think that's when they started talking more to one another.
00:05:37
Speaker
I think I was definitely the turning point because yeah I think it must have been because I'm sure it was my mod that said oh stubborn zombies playing this game and I was kind of like oh because that is something I do love although it took me ages to actually figure out how to actually read someone
00:05:59
Speaker
because honestly the amount of times I've you know like I heard about reading I don't know if I've told you that story like the first time I was ever rated and this was like months and months ago and I hadn't know what
00:06:14
Speaker
I had no idea reading was a thing. So I was playing like Detroit Become Human and at this stage like I was so used to like being in like my own bubble with like friends that either I knew in real life or friends I was really close with so at that time they were the only ones who were really watching it and I was streaming directly from you know the PlayStation and you know how you can get like the chat at the site and
00:06:39
Speaker
oh my god like i just all of a sudden i saw like loads of random people spamming there were spamming emotes but i didn't know there were emotes because they don't show up in the playstation chat yeah they just show up at the tech yeah so it was like hundreds of like lulls and pogs and things like that and i genuinely thought like i was getting trolled or something and i thought and i was getting like really nervous and trying to keep it together because i was like oh my god what is this and
00:07:09
Speaker
Yeah, it turned out it was a positive thing. Aww, that's so wholesome, I love that. Yeah, but I genuinely didn't know. I was like, really? Because it got to that point initially I ignored, which is bad, like I ignored them because I was kind of like, these guys have to be troll and there's no way they've just come in to like, you know, watch or support or something. Yeah. Especially if they're spamming stuff at you, you think to yourself like, oh, am I being like troll here or someone like put my link up somewhere and they've come in to like,
00:07:38
Speaker
yeah troll me or whatever yeah you know is that notorious hacker known as 4chan is 4chan come for me too yeah it's like you know that meme where it's like um my time has come he's just looking up to the sky that was like me i was like my time has gone
00:07:57
Speaker
I'm looking up at your ceiling like, wait, I'll go. The ending of my streaming career. I know. But it wasn't until like someone says always, I can't remember who it was, but they turned around and said something like always too busy or is so focused with the game, has it even noticed that it's a raid or something? And again, like genuinely, I honestly feel like, see when you're starting out in Twitch, it is so hard to like get the lingo.
00:08:24
Speaker
You know, it's like subs and YouTube means something completely different than it does on Twitch. You've got rage, you've got Pogchamps. I feel like one of those boomers trying to understand the kids. You know? Just like, hello fellow Pogchamps. I am.
00:08:44
Speaker
It was luckily all right for me because I've been on Twitch a while, not as in streaming, but just in general watching. So I knew what a raid was and I knew about all the lingo and that. It's just obviously I never had one before, but you were actually my first ever raid and it was super, super lovely because it was just like, oh my God, that means I've made it. And it was just so nice.
00:09:07
Speaker
And now I raid after every stream, I go and raid whoever I can. I know how much of a good feeling it is so it's like I want to give that to someone else. It is such a good feeling though. Like see when you see or even hear just their excitement. I don't think I've ever really had many bad raiding experiences. I don't think I've had any bad ones where someone's gone.
00:09:32
Speaker
Oh, right. Right. Yeah, I've not really had it. I might have had like one or two maybe that were kind of like thingy, but nothing, like the majority of them have been so positive and it honestly feels as if like when, you know, like it makes someone's night. Like, I mean even like...
00:09:49
Speaker
on Monday there. I was having such a terrible time with trying to get my stream started. So just for context, I was playing, I think it was Banjo Kazooie or something. And honestly, I tried streaming it through Streamlabs. Streamlabs was refusing to work. It was all chaos trying to get it.
00:10:08
Speaker
and then I remember you streamed like a couple of minutes just or not even before I finished I kind of actually was going to finish up and then you raided me and then that kind of gave me a bit of a boost just to kind of keep going for like a couple more minutes and it is it's like that kind of you know it is it's uplifting like when you actually get support because you do you think
00:10:28
Speaker
okay people are supporting me damn someone wanted to come and raid me today yeah like they saw me on their list out of all the people that they've got and they're like hey let's raid this person it's like wow thank you i feel so special it is it honestly is it's good as well when you pass that back on to someone else like you continue this trade of raid it's really nice actually
00:10:51
Speaker
Yeah, because after that I always tried to, well, to be honest, like, first of all, I always ask my chat, I always say, like, is there anybody in particular, like, I remember there was one where, I think it was my six hour stream, it was the one where I did Sonic 06 and... Oh yeah.
00:11:09
Speaker
Oh I mean that was actually a lot of fun because it was just like people popping in and out just like giving their opinion it was just so fun that stream but like I asked them I said who can I read and people were like recommending this person and that person and then one of them said why don't you read this person they're doing like a 12-hour charity stream
00:11:31
Speaker
And at least I think it was a 12-hour, but it was a charity stream regardless, the hype of all. I was like, yeah, I'm sure it was 12 hours. But no, it was like this charity stream where they were just playing board games and without that recommendation, I wouldn't have known about that person at all. And I feel as if raids are such a great way to kind of connect to other streamers.
00:11:55
Speaker
exactly yeah because it's like if someone says like you know oh check it's person out like one of my mods and he keeps recommending a lot of really good streamers and i feel as if like that's how i've gotten to know quite a lot of people but yeah it's just awesome
00:12:12
Speaker
It is, it's lovely, it's a lovely feeling as well when you get raided and then also when you raid someone and they have that excitement that you got when you get raided and it's like, it's just nice, it's wholesome. I think Twitch is such a wholesome place and I love it.
00:12:25
Speaker
It's just such, it's like a circle of wholesome. Just paying it back. And Twitter is the same as well. Like, I get so many good interactions on Twitter. It's crazy. It is, actually. I have to admit, like, I'm really surprised. Like, I don't know what, well, I might as well, I might as well ask this just now.
Journey from Viewer to Streamer
00:12:45
Speaker
What, like, what was your kind of initial perception of, like, Twitch going into it? Because I know you said earlier that you were, is it right to say you were, like, a viewer?
00:12:55
Speaker
before you became a streamer. So what was your perception of Twitch before going into streaming yourself?
00:13:05
Speaker
It was kind of one of them things that you kind of always wanted to do like it was just like when I was younger I always wanted to be a youtuber and I managed to do some YouTube videos before It was all like college e ones that I did on like my Xbox 360. It was all like really bad I think I recorded some on my phone that bad. Yeah
00:13:31
Speaker
I managed to get a capture card eventually, but it wasn't great. And then I found Twitch through a friend and I started watching people like soda popping and lyric, people like that, you know, the biggest streamers and stuff. And then I started kind of getting into smaller streamers just because they got recommended through friends and that. And then it was like, I want to do this, like,
00:13:57
Speaker
it seems like such fun to be able to just sit there play games but then also like chatting with people who want to come and watch you want to come watch you play the games sometimes games that they like or yeah they'll just come and watch you and it's just such a wholesome feeling uh having that and that was what i got from being as a viewer that i felt special because the you know the streamer talked to me and answered my question and
00:14:25
Speaker
was pointing me out and stuff like that and that felt really good and I was like, I want to do that for other people. So that was basically what got me into it was being a viewer and enjoying that viewer experience.
00:14:37
Speaker
And is that what inspired you, like, to become a streamer then? I probably would say that would be fully what inspired me to be a streamer. Obviously, you know, and it's going to be the same with everyone else. They won't tell at you all the time to the face who did that. But people are here to make money, you know.
00:14:55
Speaker
it's one of them things where it's like if we can make it a full-time thing we will because it's something that we enjoy wholeheartedly but for me it was like the experience I got as a viewer I wanted to be someone who gave that experience to other people because the world's too cruel nowadays and we need more better people in here to make it wholesome and make it better you know so
00:15:21
Speaker
no definitely I mean especially like especially in the lovely year of 2020 which is definitely not gonna age us people listening in the future just like oh yeah 2020 that was a thing because I mean there was like I mean I don't know like specific statistics but I kind of figured that there's like there's been a lot more people willing to try streaming yes
00:15:48
Speaker
I mean I know especially for me like one of my friends like I'm kind of in the same boat as you I think like I was always inspired by like a lot of YouTubers and thank Christ I didn't have a camera because that footage would probably be there like for ages
00:16:05
Speaker
I used to make silly sprite videos and things like that, but nothing. That was when I was really young. I'm just going to point that out. I'm not going to be like, and he's still making them today. No, definitely not. He's making one right now. Yeah, I'm making in the background.
00:16:23
Speaker
that boat is long sailed because yeah I was saying this last time like I used to have a gaming group on actually I'm quite curious do you know what Bebo is? Bebo? The online website yeah the social media yeah yeah I had a Bebo
00:16:40
Speaker
Yeah, so did I. This is the thing. Whenever I bring up Bebo, because that was one of my first social media sites that I used. Yeah, I think it was mine as well. Yeah, but it's a very UK slash European thing. It did not take off across the pond, which I didn't realise until much later. Talking to people on Twitch especially, and they're all
00:17:04
Speaker
well what's a bebo and it's like oh my god it's like a myspace but cooler oh god but yeah remember i used to like have a it was like a gaming group it wasn't anything like amazing it was you know just like seeing people talk about like all the you know gaming news and being like yeah copy paste
00:17:26
Speaker
Right, nothing. You know, it wasn't hard hitting journalism or anything. But that's kind of what got me into it, kind of, because I used to make like kind of really silly compilation videos and things like that. And I used to watch... Did you ever watch Machinima? I did, yeah, because a lot of people that I watch on YouTube were like Machinima people, so like Dex and them from like The Creatures. I don't know if you ever heard of The Creatures.
00:17:54
Speaker
I don't think I have, no. No, they did machinima stuff and that like a moral HD and that they did like these weird like shows and stuff like that. It's just like comedy shows. So they did that. And then my partner watched his two best friends play and they did a lot of machinima stuff as well. So.
00:18:13
Speaker
yeah because it used to be everywhere though like i remember the one that i was really like into was rb and the chief did you ever watch that yeah like i used to love that i mean between that and there was another one called online gamer that wasn't really machinima but it was like i don't know online gamer
00:18:30
Speaker
Oh well, it's one I'm kind of like cautious to recommend because the humour's like very different. It's basically about a guy who embodies the, like a kind of embodies like what a stereotypical chord fanboy is.
00:18:46
Speaker
yeah so it's like a guy who like just he talks and like called you to speak and everything like you don't have people who used to trash talk and they call him like a noob and yeah like literally calling people noobs and everything and he's gonna like slam him with his aim
00:19:02
Speaker
yeah exactly and things like that i think that's just because it was so over the top it was just like really at the time it was just like really funny definite probably i think they recognize it as well that they couldn't get away with some of the humor yeah like nowadays because i mean because it is like a very different landscape i think of gaming yeah it is yeah because you always get like people saying that like oh you would never survive and it expokes 360 lobby and it's like
00:19:31
Speaker
would want it back they say it as if it's like a badge of pride or a badge of honor yeah you know that like you're surviving of that and it's just like yeah no it's just how it was wasn't it like I was always in Xbox 360 lobbies with Call of Duty and that like and once you talk in there as a girl it's like get back to the kitchen go make me a sandwich and it was just like okay sure okay and then I kicked the rest so it was funny
00:19:59
Speaker
yeah well i get that it was always straight it was always like the same jokes wasn't it that and
Challenges and Stress of Streaming FPS Games
00:20:08
Speaker
the screaming children god yeah in fact you still technically get that and like oh absolutely like not to the same extent like absolutely not i always remember in like modern warfare 2 where
00:20:21
Speaker
the mics would kind of be muted except for your team. But as soon as that game ended, you would just hear this avalanche of nine year olds just screaming. They'd shove the mic in their mouths and it'd just be like, oh. Like that sort of thing. And it's just like, oh my god.
00:20:39
Speaker
I was playing Cold War the other night and there was this guy I don't know who he was talking to but he just kept screaming like saying I can't believe it how could you do this and I'm like dude who are you talking to I mean like I wasn't answering them no one else in the team was answering them and was like come on this isn't the 360 days come on put your controller down get a cup of tea put your bike down
00:21:06
Speaker
Yeah, put your mic down. Have a nice brew. You know, just go. Yeah, just go. Just go away. Be with your family. Like, Cold War is not worth all the stress you're putting into the train. Yeah. And it's always FPSs. Oh, not always, but 9 times out of 10, it's always those kind of...
00:21:24
Speaker
It's supposed to be so stressful, aren't they? I play Apex a lot. I do it off-stream because currently my computer can't handle having OBS and Apex open at the same time because I unfortunately only have eight gigs of RAM, which is definitely the big upgrade that's going to happen when I get my new PC part is getting to 16 gigs of RAM so I can run more games.
00:21:45
Speaker
And basically I play apex a lot with some friends and is way better when you play with friends because if you play it on Solo with randos, it's the most stressful experience I've ever been through because people are just selfish. Yeah, they're literally so selfish. It's crazy I have to know I've never played apex. It's good. It's fun
00:22:09
Speaker
I feel as if I've only just started getting into Warzone, which is something I don't really play on my own because, well for one I'm rubbish at it, but it's so stressful having to climb your way up the leaderboard and everything. And the other night I was playing
00:22:31
Speaker
with like with a couple of my friends and it is like you kind of it's weird because see on stream i try to kind of rein myself back in i'm not like i'm energetic sometimes but i try to rein myself in whereas if i'm off stream yeah i get i get very brave-hearted that's all i'm saying very brave-hearted yeah just screaming going no
00:22:56
Speaker
And it's just those moments where you just kind of, you sit and you reflect and you think, oh God, just, what? Why do I do that? Yeah, it's like, why am I playing this game? And then, you know, your friend says, oh, do you want another game? And you're like, but obviously, obviously I want another game. That's literally me on Apex. It's like, I stress out so badly and rage and I'm like telling my friends like, I hate Rando's, I hate him so much. And then they're like, so do you want to do another game? And I'm like, yeah.
00:23:24
Speaker
I mean, I honestly couldn't play. I mean, sometimes I do. Have you ever played a team-based FPS game with strangers?
00:23:34
Speaker
Yeah, yeah. A lot of the time I find Apex with strangers and it is stressful because they're selfish. They are actually selfish. Like obviously with Apex, you're trying to get in and get the guns as quick as possible. So you can like fight the other squads in that and a lot of them won't even leave you a gun. They'll just pick up everything and then drop the shit they don't want. Yeah.
00:23:55
Speaker
god that's i'm just trying to think of like the last game i played i actually downloaded because it was free on xbox game pass you know like an amazing plug there for the game pass because it always appears like in like every chat tsunami episode so if anyone's listening out there i will advertise but um yeah i was playing like i think it was starbucks battlefront 2 like the newer one ah yeah
00:24:21
Speaker
Because I've always been really curious about it and I know like EA kind of like Battlefield and Battlefront and those kind of games are like squad based. Yeah but I don't think I have ever felt like as part of a squad in Battlefront like at all. Like as soon as we go like we spawn and everything they're gone. They all run up aren't they? Yeah they all go their separate ways and it's just like
00:24:49
Speaker
What's the point of having a squad? And they're just like, yeah, nah, we're just... Yeah, so fun times with like new FPSs. I mean that is the worry as well with like seeing new games like new FPSs when you have to get like used to the mechanics. Yeah. Because I don't know it's like sometimes if it's a futuristic game like I had a really hard time going from Cod to Titanfall 2.
00:25:15
Speaker
That's fair, yeah. I mean Titanfall 2 is a really fun game but it's just I absolutely sucked at it. Yeah we play Titanfall because my partner really really loves Titanfall. He actually despises Apex because obviously they're made by the same people and it's in the same universe. So he actually despises Apex because it's like no Titanfall's better.
00:25:40
Speaker
But Titanfall 2 is really fun. I like it and I like the whole idea that you get to run around and kick people in mechs. So, you know, who doesn't love that, you know? I mean, that is true. Like, I feel as if it's like a very unappreciated or underappreciated. Absolutely. I would say so. Yeah, I'd say it's very underappreciated. And I think Apex definitely stole its shadow in a lot of ways. But yeah.
00:26:03
Speaker
Is Apex a free game or is it one you have to... It's free. It's free on Steam. It used to be on Origin, same with all like Titanfall and all that, but they moved Apex to Steam. So I downloaded it on Steam. Ah, right. Okay. That makes sense. Yeah, there's a lot of EA games on Steam actually. Yes, I think they did like a massive move to Steam because a lot of people just weren't using Origin, so.
00:26:30
Speaker
Yeah, I always got annoyed by origin, like having to remember your password, get in, and then by the time you got in, it was like, I have three games here. Yeah, it's awful, and I have origin still on my computer because I think the Sims 4 still wants you to have it so you can open it, which is kind of weird, but you know. But yeah, it was super good that it all moved over to Steam because it's just so much easier now.
00:26:56
Speaker
yeah oh no absolutely absolutely yeah no origin is not a it doesn't have a place here not at all
00:27:07
Speaker
keep throwing origin away as far as possible there. Just get it away, get it away. Be gone!
The Story Behind StubbornZombie's Username
00:27:17
Speaker
So I'm quite curious, looking back to streaming, of course you've got the name Stubborn Zombie for your streaming. I'm really curious, what inspired the name?
00:27:33
Speaker
No, no, it's such a weird story because it's it's one of them ones that's like I feel everyone's at least gone through yeah, so I Used to have the tag the lonely zombie that used to be my whole thing. I was I put that everywhere It's actually my film Tag as well when in university I did a film production So any films that any short films that I made were under the company the lonely zombie
00:28:01
Speaker
Yeah. And I still keep that for my film stuff now, just because I like it. But basically, I went to make an account on I can't remember if it was PlayStation or something like that. And I know that this is before PlayStation. So I went to go make an account and some places don't let you have so many letters. So the lonely zombie didn't fit
00:28:27
Speaker
Because it was too long so and I wanted to keep zombie because I like zombies. Yeah So I used the name suggest a thing and it actually came up with stubborn zombie And I so I picked it because it was like, okay I'll just pick that and then now like when I've used it in other places So I actually used it for my PlayStation 4 name like account name and that I used it for
00:28:53
Speaker
a load of other places as well and eventually I just sort of like thought about it and I was like like when it came to actually making like the twitch uh account in that I was like you know I actually quite like stubborn zombie yeah I kind of like it it can be like a little bit stubborn uh with a lot of things and I just thought it'd suit better than the lonely zombie and it actually turned out when I went to try the lonely zombie it had actually been taken
00:29:16
Speaker
Oh, really? So yeah, and I was super surprised about that because I was like, that's hardly used or anything like that, but it actually had been taken. So I tried stubborn zombie and that hadn't been taken. So I thought, yeah, I'll just use that. And that's pretty much how I got my name because someone else stole my other one.
00:29:34
Speaker
That is the worst though, see when you've got like a name you think oh it's original you know I'm gonna do it, I'm gonna create this account and then you put it in and it's like what kind of sick person from across the world has stolen my name? That's literally what it was, it was like wait what? So I took this name
00:29:54
Speaker
I think what it's worth to see when you like type in the name you want and it's like you don't get it but then you type in your name and then you put like a one beside it and then that immediately comes up and it's like oh you're good you're just like there's one oh it's annoying I mean it's like the same. Is that why you've got a Satsunami 42? Pretty much yeah well I actually think and I could be wrong in this there could be like a genuine Satsunami there but I am I think
00:30:21
Speaker
think that I created like ages and ages, this is like years ago, one of my friends was like oh why don't you, I can't remember, he was on Twitch quite a lot and I think I was just like really curious so I created an account and I don't actually remember if the account I created was under Sannami or it was under something else so when I went to create like my channel it just came up as oh that's Sannami's taken and I'm like oh great
00:30:52
Speaker
Which is not a very common name I have to say, which is kind of a blessing and a curse. I mean, do you know the origin behind the name?
00:31:02
Speaker
I do not know actually. So like long story short it was when I was in uni in 2014 I'm just gonna like emphasize that because last time like I got the years mixed up when I think I was still in school and I was like no no it was 2014 when I was in uni thank you so yeah it was like it's basically a pun name it's like a combination between the word satsuma and tsunami
00:31:28
Speaker
so yeah together it's just that tsunami and it was just like one of my friends and I were just like messing around and talking and we're just making like these kind of pun jokes and then of course I saw like I think I sat zoomers on the table and that was really it like it was a really stupid joke but then I followed onto it for like
00:31:47
Speaker
Yeah, it must have been six years, yeah. I held onto the name for a good five to six years. You just clawed on to realise mine now. My precious. My precious. And it was, it was like, I had a really generic gamer tag beforehand. It was just very, it wasn't like,
00:32:08
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and I think I said this before it wasn't anything like xxx you know thunderhaggis420xx or something you know it wasn't anything like that it was just something it was just like really generic not great if you know what i mean so i was like right i might as well just change it to satsanami which i did and then it wasn't until one of my friends was like oh why don't you try streaming that i was like yeah sure i'll use the name then
00:32:34
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which i have to admit was kind of apprehensive about doing but yeah no it worked out i suppose yeah like when you're on about uh the xx all that stuff that oh yeah i feel cold out because that was like my sort of oh sorry no no no it's fine
00:32:50
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My gamertag for a while was IZZZ, so it is legends, but I couldn't spell legends, so it ended up saying leg-ends. And it was with a Z as well at the end and then had an X afterwards, so it was like, is leg-ends X.
00:33:14
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So it was a proper gamer, like, clan thing. Oh, it was awful.
00:33:22
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as it's always the... Honestly, I feel as if that is the hardest part. See, in anything, when it comes to choosing your gamertag or content creation, it's choosing that name. Because as I said, I chose mine. And it was very generic. Some people choose their full name or something. Other people just choose... They just choose things they're into.
00:33:50
Speaker
I don't know like off the top of my head like super codefan or something like that you know and it's like just kind of random stuff and then when you grow up you're like yeah I need a new name yeah it's like Microsoft please please change please
00:34:09
Speaker
It's good though to look back on to like the sort of names that you've had for a while. I mean like I'm gonna say this on stream I've actually never told like any one of them close friends about this so you're all getting a special juicy secret. So I used to obviously you can tell I like zombies.
00:34:27
Speaker
So I used to be insanely obsessed with zombies to the point where I would try and name absolutely anything I could get my hands on as a zombie sort of name. So my steam, I sort of tried to do variations of like steam names. And I ended up seeing the word necrophile on
00:34:50
Speaker
like just just in random places right yeah so i called myself the necrophiliac gamer right oh no so you can you can already see where this is going right oh yeah um so i had that like plastered everywhere on my steam and i would join games yeah and all this and it wasn't until one of my friends said did you realize what necrophile means right and i'm like no what does it someone who likes zombies
00:35:20
Speaker
Well, technically. Well, that's technically correct. I'm not gonna say it on stream. You guys feel free. You don't know what necrophile means. Feel free to Google it. But yeah, let's just say I quickly and swiftly changed my name after that. It wasn't my proudest moment, I'll tell you that.
00:35:46
Speaker
Oh god. See on the plus side, at least your friends told you. That is the good thing. They could have been those kind of friends that just let you keep going. Yeah, just like, yes, fine. She'll figure it out. She'll figure it out. And then it's like when you start to itch. She's been thinking it out for like three years. She's like, oh, we should probably tell her now.
00:36:12
Speaker
It's like, did someone tell, you know, zombie that, you know what that means? Just getting instantly banned from Twitch. Just like, what did I do wrong? I mean, it was literally just like, I was in games and people would like say like, ha, such a great name. And I'd be like, thank you. And now I look back and I'm like, fuck, they would be mean. Yeah.
00:36:36
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I mean, I think, I don't want to give them credit, but maybe some of them wear genuine. Just like, oh my god! Maybe some people liked it, I dunno. There's a lot of Life 4 Dead fans out there, that's all I'm saying.
00:36:55
Speaker
So yeah, that's an exclusive chat tsunami only confession. There you go. Does that mean I have to delete this after? No, no, no. Don't worry. Don't worry, I'll age it out, I'm sure. So, moving swiftly on. Yeah, moving very quickly on.
00:37:19
Speaker
like going back to like when you started streaming as you know like the first couple of months you know as stubborn zombie you know like how was that for you like was it a positive experience would you say was it yeah like what kind of experiences did
Achieving Twitch Affiliate Status
00:37:37
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you have at the very beginning
00:37:38
Speaker
So I've actually not been a streamer for too long now. I'm actually in my third month of streaming or maybe my fourth now. I believe I started like sort of late September and all that. So it's been a bit of a weird ride because
00:37:55
Speaker
When I first started, I was really nervous. I wasn't sure if anyone was going to join. I literally told all my friends like, hey, I'm doing a twitch. I'm streaming on Twitch. Can you please come watch me? Because I need to hit these goals for affiliate. And it turns out a lot of them are so, so supportive that I actually got affiliates super quickly. I think I got it within a week.
00:38:16
Speaker
because you had to do all these certain days of streaming and that, and so many hours. I actually hit affiliates super quick because of how supportive they were, and that was insane enough already. And then thanks to your raid, and then I got raided by Barebones, who's a really good streamer as well, and he's just a super lovely guy, just like yourself, both super, super lovely.
00:38:41
Speaker
He is, he's fantastic. But yeah, thanks to both of you, my channel just sort of spiralled a bit and it was like, I ended up seeing numbers of like people coming in, like I'd get like average of like 10 people in my stream and it was like, oh my God, hello, hi everyone, that sort of thing. And it was, it was scary.
00:39:00
Speaker
but it was exciting. I've never felt so good than how I do after I've ended the stream because I'm on this adrenaline rush and it is just absolutely fantastic and I had some goals to hit for the end of 2020 and I've actually hit two out of the five goals already. I've managed to hit 150 subscribers which is just
00:39:25
Speaker
insane like that already in itself is insane i'm close to hitting 500 followers on twitter and twitch which is again exciting i've nearly got 50 subs on youtube as well which i don't actually post on there a lot um because i've been kind of wanting to wait until my stream quality gets a bit better because don't get me wrong 720 is fine
00:39:48
Speaker
But 1080, though. 1080, though. Especially if you want it, don't you? Yeah, you can beat a nice bit of 1080. No, you can't. Exactly. Yeah. So I've kind of been wanting to wait to post some stuff on YouTube until I've got my quality up a bit more and that. And yeah, it was just it's just being absolutely insane. And to think probably the best thing that's ever happened to me while I've been streaming in these short months is I actually hit a level five hype train.
00:40:18
Speaker
wow yeah it was during one of my 12 hour streams and people were just being too generous like too way too generous basically and i hit a level five hype train and i i'd seen hype trains before because like i said i'd been on twitch before i started streaming so i knew what hype trains were so when it came up with my stream that i had a hype train already i was like oh my god
00:40:44
Speaker
I have a hype train guys, I have a hype train. And then the fact that these guys just shoved it all the way to level five, it was like, you guys are insane. You're all insane. Why are you supporting me so much? I think that's kind of the thing that I have with streaming as well is that I have this weird imposter syndrome of like, I don't think I deserve the amount of like,
00:41:07
Speaker
support that I get from my from my community like they're all super super supportive and it's like I don't feel like I deserve it if that makes sense it's like ah no I totally get what you mean it is it's like when you do a stream and it goes really well and
00:41:26
Speaker
Yes, there's been some streams where I've had, granted not a level 5 hype train or anything, but streams that I've done and they've been really good. Maybe I've had a sub or two, maybe lots of people have came in, maybe there's been a raid, but there's been some of those kind of streams where I'll come off at the end and I'll be like, my god, that was terrible.
00:41:51
Speaker
But it's like objectively, there's nothing wrong with the stream itself. But it's like what you're saying about kind of that imposter syndrome of thinking like, oh, it wasn't good enough or something, when it probably...
00:42:06
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it was you know and after a minute like i have a lot of my friends they're probably sick of me like after streams coming off saying my god that was terrible that was just where's my where's my tub of quality street you know eating my fields away thinking no no it's terrible and it's like and they have to like obviously keep saying oh no it's fine and
00:42:27
Speaker
I know, like, if it was bad, they probably would say, like, that's what you're doing. They're gonna be honest with you and tell you if it was a bad stream. And obviously, I feel the exact same way. I had a stream yesterday, we were doing the Among Us stream, where I get, like, viewers coming in and
Maintaining Mental Health in Streaming
00:42:46
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stuff like that.
00:42:46
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and for a while it was doing pretty well but then i think at one point i kind of dropped to like around like five people in the stream um and i need to okay this is like some advice for new streamers out there or just anyone in general really just streamers don't look at your view count it makes you upset absolutely
00:43:05
Speaker
don't look at it turn it off cover it up do whatever you got to do just don't look at the view count because it will commit badly to your mental health and I have to stop doing it because I keep checking on my phone I turned off my OBS I got rid of it on OBS but I keep bringing up my phone and I need to stop doing that so I'm gonna shove my phone somewhere during stream so I can't look at it yeah
00:43:29
Speaker
But yeah, I did one yesterday and I thought I did so badly. I thought I dropped and I thought this is going to be such a bad average. And then I looked after the stream. I actually had an 11 average for that whole stream. And I was like, okay, maybe I'm just being really hard on myself. And again, need to stop looking at the view count.
00:43:50
Speaker
definitely I mean the view count definitely is something that I remember like before I came on to twitch I remember seeing this video and it was like this video of like making fun of a guy who was like it was like a fictional thing but it was a guy who was streaming
00:44:07
Speaker
and they had like 23 viewers on or something and I remember watching it thinking oh wow that's like a really low you know amount of viewers but like after coming on Twitch I'm like my god I would kill for 23 viewers I was like damn I would kill for that
00:44:27
Speaker
I mean that's literally what it is isn't it? Yeah and it is it's honestly I don't know if you feel the same way but it's like you know when I think this is definitely a problem that a lot of kind of upcoming streamers have that it's they're always trying to compare themselves to other people not other people but like other streamers that I think the issue is like everyone on Twitch is quite they've got their own kind of unique
00:44:54
Speaker
way of streaming, if you know what I mean. And to kind of compare yourself to someone who does something completely drastically different, you're obviously not going to attract an audience like that because their audience is looking maybe for what that streamer's doing.
00:45:14
Speaker
Yeah, no, I do the exact same thing. I compare myself to Vtubers, which I'm not a VTuber at all. I'm a variety streamer. I might have a cute little avatar, but that's it. Vtubers put in so much work because they have to be on camera to make their avatar move and stuff like that.
00:45:35
Speaker
So, you know, I'm comparing myself to these Vtubers that I'm friends with and I'm like, they're doing so well. And I'm like, yeah, but you're not a Vtuber. You're a variety streamer who plays games. Like they play games as well. But their whole thing is is that they're a Vtuber. So I'm like I say, like you say, I'm comparing myself to these people and my content isn't the same as theirs. And then I look at other people that I'm friends with whose content is similar.
00:46:03
Speaker
And I'm doing higher than them. And I'm thinking to myself, they probably think to themselves, why can't I be like them, like in comparing them to me? Yeah, so it's, it's just kind of like, it's hard not to compare yourself to other people, because especially if you're surrounded by people who do
00:46:22
Speaker
similar stuff to you, it is really difficult. I compare myself a lot to Barebones because he does a lot of variety streams and we're such good friends. So when we stream together, it's usually like he's got more views than me sometimes or I'll have more views than him. And it's just because our viewers are likely just swapping between streams because we actually do share a lot of the same people.
00:46:46
Speaker
So it's usually they're probably just switching between because they want to support us both and all that But it is definitely really bad to compare yourself to other people and to look at the views like it's I'd probably say that's probably something I really want to change for myself because I Want to make sure my mental health's fine with streaming and then at the end of the day as well. It's not a race It's like it's not a sprint. You're not meant to get to where you want to be the fastest or anything like that It's gonna take time. It's just
00:47:14
Speaker
getting there at your pace, you know, like I say, you're not sprinting there, you just, you've got to go there at your own pace. Because it's like, I had like a very similar kind of conversation with one of my friends and weirdly enough it was the same friend who got me into streaming and like I do kind of moan and like chat about it a lot to him because we're kind of like, he's got very, you know, sagely wisdom
00:47:42
Speaker
even though we're the same age, he's got very wise words of wisdom and honestly I appreciate him so much as a friend but he always says like you know like sometimes I feel down and saying oh maybe I'm not getting the amount of growth that I would like you know or maybe I'm not getting in some respects like sometimes I feel as if my channel's great but then I feel as if like some other bits aren't going as well you know and I think that is definitely a thing as well like
00:48:12
Speaker
when someone like looks at someone's follower count versus like their sub count, it's like the idea of a successful streamer is very subjective. Like you can't look at one person, like obviously unless they've got loads of money, you know, like that like surface level, but it's like what defines like for small kind of streamers, what defines, you know, what makes a successful streamer is it like they're
00:48:36
Speaker
Is it their view count? Is it their follower number? Is it the amount of subs they've got? You know, it's like, oh, it depends on who you ask, really. And I was talking to him about this saying, you know, I'm really worried that I'm not getting, you know, as much kind of growth and everything. And it's exactly as you said. He basically turned around and said, well, so what? It's like, yeah.
00:48:55
Speaker
There's absolutely no rush to, because I know a lot of people who get into Twitch expecting it just to be, and I've said this before on stream, it's like they expect to turn on the camera, play like a game on stream and then rake in the money.
00:49:10
Speaker
that one seeing less like you're bringing in a huge audience like elsewhere you're probably not gonna happen unless you're like really lucky the very first time you start streaming because i mean i don't know if you've seen my like early streams mines were awful i think mine was to be honest as well though like when i've
00:49:28
Speaker
Before I even hit affiliate, a lot of my streams, I did get quite a lot of low-end numbers and that. And it's just how it is, isn't it? Because people are starting to find who you are, and eventually you'll start to grow. And people will then come in to watch you for you. They don't care about what game you're playing. I'm playing Odd World, Abe's Odyssey, tomorrow on stream.
00:49:51
Speaker
And that's an old ass game, and I'm pretty sure that category is dead on Twitch. But I've had friends and people in my community say, we don't care what you're gonna play, we just want to watch you play games. And honestly, that was like the nicest thing I've ever heard. That was the biggest compliment I've ever heard. It was just amazing.
00:50:11
Speaker
Honestly it's like one nice comment honestly just turned your whole day around downstream. I know I've said this before but I think like I was somewhere as well when I started I had a computer that kept dying on me midstream and everything.
00:50:28
Speaker
So I ended up switching to like console based streaming and there was one guy who popped in and basically just, he left me a follow and everything and he left by saying, oh I've left you a follow, I said oh thank you and everything and he said no problem, I'd really enjoyed your stream.
00:50:45
Speaker
and I don't like I genuinely don't think like viewers I mean maybe they do like obviously a lot of people are kind of wary about what they say in twitch chat but yeah it's like I don't know how many viewers kind of know how much that means because there is that
00:51:02
Speaker
Yeah because I mean I don't know like if you think the same about this but it's like there's almost like when you're coming into Twitch there's like a stereotype that it's kind of like an easy ride and it's like you have to be a hundred percent all the time on camera or not on camera but you know on stream you have to be a hundred percent like you have to be interacting you have to be like high energy and everything and so this was something I was talking about last week as well about something called like the grind have you heard of this?
00:51:31
Speaker
yeah they grind yeah yeah where it's like oh you have to stream you know a hundred something a week i was like you know that makes sense yeah it's like you have to stream like every day every week you have to build up and it's like like that's the people don't want that though that's the thing like my my community actively tell me breaks like they're like please have a day off um i actually changed my
00:51:54
Speaker
our streaming schedule because my community were like, you need to take another day off. Because I was doing six days a week, and only had one day off, which was Sundays. And they were like, No, you need to take one in the middle of the week as well. So I, I took Thursday's off now as well. So I only do five days. And then I have Thursday and Sunday off. So if I hadn't done that, I think I would have
00:52:18
Speaker
just crashed and burned. So the fact that they were like, you need to take another day off is like, it really shows that people watch you for you. And they notice if you're starting to, like really like burn out and stuff like that. They will literally notice if you're not the same. And I think that's super important to realize is that your community a lot of the time will know you better than yourself because, you know, they keep watching you and
00:52:45
Speaker
seeing how you are and stuff like that and it's just super lovely that people that you don't even know that have just come from anywhere around the world are just like hey take a break you know we're here for you we'll be here for you when you come back and it's like it's just oh it's such a great feeling yeah and I mean it is it's definitely like would you say self-care is like a really important thing for streaming
00:53:11
Speaker
I mean, I would absolutely say self care is the most important and not even streaming just for like everything in general. I'm a big mental health activist on my streams. I have the mental health tag in all of my streams because I want people to be open about mental health. I want to get rid of the whole stigma that mental health is bad to talk about. I actively do streams where the topic is just
00:53:37
Speaker
me playing a game like Fall Guys and we'll just talk about mental health. Like that'll just be the whole stream. I actually did one recently where I had, it was about when my parts got stolen with the whole Hermes stuff. For context, for people who don't know, I had PC parts coming from a friend that I paid for delivered by a company here called Hermes and the parts never arrived. Don't know what happened, but hopefully that's gonna get sorted.
00:54:06
Speaker
But that ended up making my mental health incredibly bad because them parts were going to be what made my PC a lot better for stream. They were going to allow me to make my stream 1080p. They were going to allow me to stream Apex, all this sort of stuff, all stuff that I really wanted. And it just, it made me crash and it was horrible. I felt so bad, especially the worst part was it was streams money. Like people actually donated that for me to get these parts. Like it was people donating.
00:54:34
Speaker
money to get these parts and it was just that's what felt worse was it felt like I'd let my stream down because I hadn't of I hadn't chased this up sooner or whatever and this sort of stuff it was just you know I was bringing myself down for no reason so I actually did a whole stream about it saying like talking about the situation talking about with mental health and then just allowing people to sort of talk about theirs as well and I actually had two people come in and
00:54:57
Speaker
and join and talk about their mental health. And I think it's super important to take self care, because if you don't, it's not just going to affect you, it's going to affect everyone else around you. And you know, you're the most important person in your own life. So make sure you look after yourself so you can look after others.
00:55:16
Speaker
Yeah, no, I totally agree. It's definitely, and especially for, I've had a couple of experiences right enough and streaming where people have come into my chat and they've said, oh, I've been having a bad day or something, or I've been having that, and I think it's great.
00:55:34
Speaker
being able to be not only like a content creator and everything that's great in its own but being able to kind of just like establish a place where people can come in and they can feel like safe and comfortable enough because I've had people like obviously not naming names or anything but like having people in and just saying oh I've had a terrible day or oh I've not been great recently or anything and the fact that
00:56:01
Speaker
like I am kind of glad in a way that they feel comfortable enough to be able to just vent in like the chat and everything and I mean it makes me proud in my community as well like honestly I'm like a doting dad but I'm like because I am it's like
00:56:17
Speaker
when like someone's having a bad day like even in my Discord server I've got like a place it's like a channel called talk about your day and I really want to encourage people like to use that to be even if it's just something stupid like Mondays or you know or not stupid but you know I mean if it's something like small or you know something that might
00:56:38
Speaker
be insignificant to them to be like oh i don't know if i can complain about it because it's something small but yeah i mean i would definitely encourage i think it is a good thing definitely it was from the viewer side it is great that they've got a place to be able to kind of
00:56:55
Speaker
you know like offload that stress. Yeah they can like escape from their life for a bit because they just want to come and talk to people and talk to a streamer like for a lot of people. Them being acknowledged by the streamer it probably has made the whole day.
00:57:12
Speaker
like it's it's crazy how many times i've had in chat of them being like thank you for reading my comment um you've made my day in all this i actually had someone coming before and say i'm surprised you're not as you're not bigger because of how nice you are and i honestly that made me cry after stream i was like
00:57:30
Speaker
oh my god that's amazing and it was just i always say to people uh in my community my dms are always open you are absolutely free to come and message me if you don't want to post it in my server if you don't want to post it in my stream that sort of thing you are absolutely 100 welcome to come and DM me i kind of feel like a bit of like an auntie to the stream the most like like you say you're a dad i'm probably that's like on the side just like come here guys you can come talk to me if you can't talk to mum you can come talk to me
00:58:02
Speaker
Yeah, the cool zombie and hearing from you as well saying that you do that for your community is incredible. It really is amazing.
00:58:16
Speaker
Yeah, because I mean obviously I think that's the worry as well is like you can't obviously you know like fix everyone's issues like once and everything and swoop in but at the same time being able to like provide even just like a relief as you were saying like
00:58:32
Speaker
just that kind of escape of letting them interact with you and kind of like talk about their day or if there's anything worrying. I mean I remember when I did my Outlast stream I think I can't remember it was like a good while ago it was like one of the milestone streams I did and one person came in and they were like oh um like I'm having a tough time at school or something like that and I'm just I just want to like relax with an Outlast stream which after that is a kind of a strange choice again.
00:59:00
Speaker
to relax today. Yeah, it's a spooky game. Yeah, because I was on the edge of my seat and this was like at the very beginning of the game. I was like, oh god, I am not looking forward to this. But at the same time, it was like the fact that they were just brave enough just to come forward and say like, yeah, I'm having a bad day, like whether it's school, whether it would be work, you know, whether it be anything.
00:59:21
Speaker
it's just letting them, giving them that opportunity to come forward and just be like yeah this is what's happening you know and again yeah I'm just so proud of like and again I know I'm biased but you know that way when you look at your community and you're just like so happy that
00:59:39
Speaker
My god, I literally did that earlier today. Actually, I looked at like how many people we had in And like I just saw people chatting away about just like just random things and I'm like, I'm so fucking proud of this community Like everyone's so great. Everyone's so supportive I know it like if I put something in my announcements it is to do with like me having a day off or I don't know like just some other stuff people will like react to it with like hearts and all this stuff and it's like
01:00:07
Speaker
everyone's just so lovely like this is just random uh topic here but i made like you can see my discord but i changed uh my chibi to have like reindeer antlers and a nose for like just for christmas because you know i wanted to have a christmas avatar like christmas fine and my avatar basically and all that and i posted it in art and i was like but like how does this look to everyone like do you think this looks okay and everyone was like oh my god it's amazing and it was just like
01:00:34
Speaker
so good. It's so nice to have people just like comment to you and just like tell you like the stuff you're doing is great and it's like they're probably just being biased because they're my viewers but like I love it at the same time. I have to admit like that was something that I really struggled with like see at the very beginning of streaming because it was only my friends and as I said like I don't I wouldn't expect them to like
01:00:59
Speaker
you know let me keep going on if I was doing like awful or if I was crashing or burning and they always kept saying oh you're doing great and oh this is great and that's great but at the same time I was kind of like there was no one like really outside that circle yeah who was like giving their input or their commentary and like yeah you know that way it's like you kind of think am I doing something wrong or as you know I mean I suppose it is it's quite nice when you get some kind of validation like from you and don't get me wrong like you don't need like
01:01:28
Speaker
someone else's like validation to like go out and stream. Because I don't want to give out that opinion to be like my friends always believed in me and then a stranger does.
01:01:43
Speaker
you know it's one of them things that makes streaming like all the worth it like even if i didn't have like anyone in my chat at all i'd still be streaming because i want to stream and play games that's just what i want to do but when you get like people coming in your stream and chatting uh when you you know get people just coming in and saying hi randomly and then like they go or something like that or just even after the stream and they'll come and talk to you in the server
01:02:09
Speaker
just about anything really it's just it's incredible it really is and like you said before some people might not realize how much like that affects a streamer but like you're just posting high in our chat or just talking to us about like literally anything
01:02:26
Speaker
You've already made our day because we as streamers love to chat and love to have people to chat to.
Viewer Interaction and Stream Etiquette
01:02:33
Speaker
Obviously, if you're lurking, that's your choice and we respect lurkers as much as we respect people who chat away because just having people in the stream is good enough for us as well.
01:02:44
Speaker
But having someone to sort of talk back to and sort of like bounce off is really good for us because it's like it allows us to keep talking, you know, especially if we haven't got any people with us. Like if we haven't got any friends playing, if it's just literally just us, having someone to just back and forth with is really good. And I think that's like amazing. And people should definitely realize that they help out streamers a lot more than they realize. So.
01:03:09
Speaker
because I mean I know this will sound kind of like a bit of a paradox but like off stream I'm like quite a shy person I say as I'm running a podcast live to people I'm a very shy person guys really I'm very shy guys I'm a shy guy
01:03:26
Speaker
But it's like, when I started streaming, that was something I was terrified of doing. I'm not terrified, but I'm really nervous of, because again, it was like that idea of, oh, how do I grow, you know, without just spamming my link and Twitter and being like, oh, I'm live, I'm live. Because if you're saying that, like, nobody who's passing by is going to be like, oh, that random guy's live, let me check. Like, maybe, but like, without, because I think there's something I kind of learned, like,
01:03:55
Speaker
through experience I suppose but you don't really realise how social Twitch is. Like I know it sounds like a really weird thing that it's because you are talking to people and you're playing games but like even amongst like other streamers like what we are doing just now like chatting away and like going into other streamers to support them and
01:04:15
Speaker
yeah just being able to kind of like interact and talk and that was one of the things I was worried about going into the streamers because I didn't want to be like hi my name's that's an army and I stream okay I'm going on to the next stream obviously going into other people's channels and saying that you're a streamer can sometimes be really negative like obviously if you're friends with the person they understand if you're streaming that so
01:04:40
Speaker
For example, like I've had red star dust be in my chat because obviously some mods and he got into streaming and there's just hit affiliate as well actually. So big congrats to you red star. At times he'd be like, okay, I'm going now. I gotta go stream. And obviously I know him. So to me, that was fine. But if a random person just comes in and it says like, Hey, I'm a streamer too. Like I stream. Yeah, I'm going live soon too. And it just, I don't know. It feels a bit weird.
01:05:09
Speaker
It's like, I feel like you've just come into my stream just to advertise yourself. You know, you're not here to actually support me. You've just gone to like, just advertise yourself. It's just weird. I don't know. See, so this was something that I've kind of brought up with a lot of streamers and it's like,
01:05:25
Speaker
that idea of there's definitely a certain etiquette between people you're friends with or at least people you kind of know through streaming versus people who are, as you said, are complete strangers coming in and just doing their own things. So I remember when I used to stream a lot of Fall Guys and I'm sure you probably had this as well, where you get random people coming in and basically saying,
01:05:53
Speaker
oh um you know oh can we play together yeah and things like that i get that with the mongos rather than fall guys like a mongos is definitely a game that whenever i've put that up in my category actually happened yesterday really i've had people coming in saying can i play like they've never spoken before they've literally just followed the stream but they literally the first thing that they say when they come into the stream is can i play
01:06:19
Speaker
And it's like yes, but like I do I do games of you like I that is my thing like on Wednesdays I play with other people from from from the stream but it's becoming to a point where I actually think I might have to stop it because I'm starting to get people in my stream who are children and
01:06:43
Speaker
Because I assume because I have like the cute avatar and stuff like that People are like, you know, all they just you know, it's just a streamer into it So people think like children think they can come in and be like, oh I can play with a streamer Even though I'm not like a big streamer or anything but to them I probably am So I actually think I might have to stop just because I'm worried like about TOS really and all that sort of stuff
01:07:09
Speaker
I mean, it is a worry. I mean, I've had an extremer friend to have just been like, oh, we are playing just now. Do you want to join us? And it's like, sick. OK, I'll do it. Like, I mean, if I was playing it and you said like, oh, do you need one more person? I'd be like, yeah, sure. Come on board. Because the worry for me is if I'm playing a game like Among Us or I mean, even Fall Guys, like just in general, like on the one hand, it's like I want to know who I'm playing with, if you know what I mean.
01:07:37
Speaker
and I feel comfortable with a lot of the people that I follow or I've gotten to know through the communities as I kind of go through each community like, hey guys, hey guys. But it's like you get to know a lot of the people and you get to recognise them and I feel comfortable playing the games with them but if it's a random
01:08:00
Speaker
Like, it could be a kid, it could be, you know, just a random stranger. One of the weirdest ones I got, and I don't know if you've ever got this, so I was playing Fall Guys on the PlayStation. And, genuinely, this was one of the weird ones. I was definitely a kid, I could tell, but...
01:08:17
Speaker
the person turned round and she started talking and I was like right okay fair enough you know just the general chit chat and then she sent a youtube link and I was like what and she went oh I've created this video um can you watch and this is what kind of like threw me off she went can you watch this live on stream
01:08:37
Speaker
Oh god. And initially I was kind of, I kind of said it nicely like, you know, I'm on the PlayStation so I can. Yeah. But that in my mod was even nice enough saying, oh no but we've got a Discord for it, you know, like just. Yeah, feel free to come plug yourself in the Discord like. Yeah.
01:08:54
Speaker
Exactly like I don't mind people coming to join the discord and you know like trying to share themselves there because yeah genuinely like I even have like a and I think you've got a similar thing as well like a area to kind of advertise yourself in. Yes I literally just have the one channel like you've got your toy and you've got streaming art and all this sort of stuff I just have self promo.
01:09:18
Speaker
I mean, I've got one for art, which is like, I suppose people can sell, they can advertise in the art one, but it's more like posting their art, which I suppose also at the same time is technically still advertising themselves. But you know, by this you just have self promo, which anyone can use, it could be for anything, it doesn't even have to be streaming, it could literally be like, like, we've got a guy who's in there, who's going to be
01:09:39
Speaker
posting his sister's webtoons, which is like comics and that. So he's going to be posting her comic series in there and then he does a blog. So he's also posting his blog in there as well. So it's like you don't even have to post anything to do with streaming or YouTubeing. Like if you've just got a blog that you want to advertise to people, then feel free to use it. But it's like when you're on about etiquette as well. I don't know if you've got this with your channel, but I have a shout out command.
01:10:09
Speaker
So I've had I had green shields come in my stream the other day and they said about live streaming and I've been I've actually been in a couple of greens streams before he's a really nice guy and he's been really supportive as well for me and he was like oh I'm streaming later and all this and I was like okay yeah Balseth shout him out
01:10:32
Speaker
And it was like, cause like it probably would be aren't like really close friends or anything like that. Cause we've only just started really properly talking being green. But like, because I know him through you and I know you're a great person, I can assume just off that he's a great person. Uh, and from the interactions I've had with him, he is. Um, but it's literally like, I feel like I could just use this command now to be like, if I, if I want to like point at people, I'll be like, you get a shout out and you get a shout out.
01:11:00
Speaker
And it's like, I can do that and that feels good because I feel like I am chatting to other people. Like I did a stream before where I was playing with bare bones and I literally told my viewers to go and watch him as well. I was like, go and watch Bear as well.
01:11:14
Speaker
Like, I'll literally just send my viewers to another stream. I'm like, go watch Bear, and all this. It's just weird. No, no, I was just about to say, it's weird how amazing it feels just to shout someone out. And then people will be like, yeah, I followed them. Like, even if they're offline, it's just like, yeah, I followed them. And it's like, yes, do it. Follow these good people. Oh, I love it. Yeah. I mean, I have to admit, I get quite... I mean, like, I'm really happy for it, but at the same time, I get kind of...
01:11:43
Speaker
i don't i don't want to say embarrassed that's like not the word but it's like there's some streamers where i'll go in and they'll be like oh satsu how you doing and then two seconds later they're like if anybody hasn't um you know checked out satsu and you can see them typing and it's like oh jesus what they're typing
01:12:00
Speaker
and it's like the command it's like the s o and then it's um you know it's like a shout out command and it's just my link and i'm just like oh god no no keep keep on with your stream just pretend i'm not featured i'm literally do that as well i do that with i'm pretty sure i've done that with you probably i think i've shouted you out before um one time um i know sophie did it with you as well actually shouted you out oh yeah
01:12:26
Speaker
She's so lovely though. Oh, she is, yeah. But yeah, I don't mind it at all because at the same time like if I know you're not streaming in a way It's like I still want to support you with my viewers while you're not streaming. So I'll be like go and follow him He's a really nice person or they're a nice person depending on who it is And you know giving people follows is like a lot nicer
01:12:53
Speaker
like etiquette I feel then being like okay yeah they're live go there you know oh yeah yeah it's kind of like you get to follow them and then if they're live uh later on or something or I don't know like a day where I'm not streaming then uh my chat would probably be like oh that's someone to watch while uh zombies not live you know so yeah
01:13:13
Speaker
It just depends on how you feel about it all, really.
Supporting Fellow Streamers and Artists
01:13:17
Speaker
I'm very shouty-outy. I shout out a lot of people in my streams. And I'm very much like, go watch these people because they're really good. I think it's just because I doubt myself so much. So I feel like I need to send people to better people. If that makes sense.
01:13:34
Speaker
I know what you mean, like I'm saying like on the one hand I'm kind of you know like shocked when people shout me out but on the other hand I was saying this like before the stream that I've like recently bought like a stream deck so I was like playing about with that and one of the things you can do is you can like press like one of the buttons and it will send like a message to the chat so one of the things you can actually do is I've got like a whole folder in it for shout out commands
01:14:01
Speaker
yeah and I'm like slowly building that up so I'm like okay this person this person this person and I'm like slowly like building up that list of people yeah you've got the um the fun little bot in your server that shouts out people when they're going live and I want to ask you how you do that like to for other people because like I've got obviously mine that says when I'm live which asks people but I'd love to have one that like
01:14:28
Speaker
puts one in the server, because I've got other streamers section in my server, which where I shout out other streamers that are live who I'm going to watch. But it'd be so good if I could have the bot that you have that just tells people when other streamers are live without tagging them, obviously, because I don't want to keep tagging people. I'll definitely need advice from you after that for stream setting it up. Definitely. No, I'll definitely tell you after.
01:14:54
Speaker
Because I'd love to have yours in there, so. Because I actually, I didn't know about it and it was actually, of all people, it was a bluefish man I was talking to, so. Oh yeah.
01:15:04
Speaker
Just in case anyone hasn't checked him out, he's an awesome streamer as well. Really nice guy, really friendly. He is. He actually came into a lot of my stream and I checked him out while I was playing Jojo and it was, oh yeah, this guy's awesome. Oh yeah, yeah. Anybody who likes Jojo can't be a bad person. Yeah, anyone who likes Jojo isn't bad, is it? Yeah, he can't be a bad person if you like Jojo.
01:15:30
Speaker
Yeah, he was like telling me how to do it because he kept saying I think he was like oh I've added you onto my stream cord or something I think that's what you call it and I was like
01:15:41
Speaker
okay yeah i was like a very like even though i'm obviously i'm not nowhere near that age but it was like a very boomer moment where i was just like what's a stream chord and then like he sent me the link and everything and it's honestly so easy to set up i was just like this is amazing and my first thought was just like i can shout out so many people yeah literally
01:16:06
Speaker
It's honestly, it's so good. I will be asking for tips on how to set it up after the stream. Oh yeah, definitely. It's literally as soon as we've done a bit of K bot. Where's that bot? Where's that bot, huh?
01:16:21
Speaker
is so good. I do love, I have to admit, I do love like shouting people out, especially on Twitter. Like probably, and apologies like if you've ever been caught up in any of those ones where it's like I've tagged you but because I've tagged so many people in the same tweet. Oh the big multi ones, yeah. I only do that in like special occasions, I'm just like
01:16:43
Speaker
like for milestones and things like that but... Yeah, like when you hit 1K that was like a big moment, like a massive moment, so I didn't mind that. It's just always funny when other people come in and I'm like getting these notifications and I'm like, are they replying to me or are they just replying to the Fred?
01:16:59
Speaker
Yeah, sometimes I feel like that when I get tagged in things and someone's like, oh, thank you so much. And I'm like, that didn't do anything. And then I'm like, oh, wait, it's not my friend. It's not my friend. I'm just like, all right, OK, let me die. Because I think I had like a moment in one of them where someone had tagged me in something and someone had replied. And I got this feeling I was kind of like,
01:17:22
Speaker
oh god what have i done what have i said and then i saw like i wasn't the first person like in the app bit at the top and i was like ah okay okay okay i can relax i could ignore this notification it is anxiety-inducing though and it's like uh have i done or is it just like yeah they're refined to someone else so yeah
01:17:41
Speaker
And I have to admit, one of the other things that I absolutely love doing is seashouting out artists like on Twitch, not Twitch, well Twitch as well but like on Twitter because I honestly feel as if they're so underrated sometimes.
01:17:58
Speaker
Absolutely. I shouted out, my sister does art. If you've ever wondered where my emotes are from, it's actually my sister who's done them. She recently become an artist, as in properly putting herself on Twitter and that.
01:18:15
Speaker
So she did my emotes and Barebones actually commissioned her to do emotes to him as well. And I think she's also got another commission actually from another friend of mine to do an avatar as well. So it was like, oh my God, like I felt so proud that my sister's doing so well that she's getting commissions in that because it is hard. But also at the same time, like the fact that my friends are wanting to commission her because they like
01:18:44
Speaker
what they sort of my emotes. It was super, super like, it just felt so heartwarming, like the fact that they want to support not just me, but my sister as well. And it's like, it's so lovely. And then I shouted out a girl called Domi who did my avatar, which is on the stream, my little chibi. She did that. And she actually did that for free, because it was part of an art competition.
01:19:06
Speaker
Oh, really? So I got it for free. But it was literally that good. I was like, Domi, I'm going to shout you out everywhere. I'm going to shout you out literally everywhere. I'm putting you on my stream. I'm putting you on my Twitter. You're in my Discord now. She has her own role in Discord now.
01:19:24
Speaker
because she did that for me and you know it's like you just got to appreciate what you get and like all that sort of stuff and because I got it for free I just felt like I just wanted to shout her out everywhere because she did such a great job
01:19:38
Speaker
And I hope, like my hope from that was that if I shouted her out in loads of different places, eventually someone will see that and be like, oh, yeah, I'd really like like a chibi drawn for me and would commission her like that would be the best thing. Yeah.
01:19:56
Speaker
there are a lot of artists I've come across and see as soon as they do one job for me, I'm like, right, OK, I'm just going to have it. I'm sold. I'm done. Yeah, exactly. I mean, the person who made the Chatsanami logo, absolutely amazing person, she ended up joining the Discord server. Oh, yeah. I think it's Viper Noir, she's called on. I don't know if she's got a different name.
01:20:25
Speaker
on like Twitter and like Instagram, places like that. I mean there's so many, there's one guy that I know who like I commission him a lot like for work and things like that's more for like my chibi like pandas and things like that that he draws. He's honestly like such a nice guy and I keep trying to get him in the discord as well because I'm kind of like join the discord so I can just show you off and be like this is
01:20:52
Speaker
yeah it's like this is a guy who made the red panda for the channel like go go over to him and you know show him some you know you know like if you need a commission go to him and say and i always do shout him out because i think it must be tough though like i mean i don't know about you but you know how whenever you're looking for a commission like especially an art commission or on like twitter and things and you always get those like randoms that have gfx at the end of their name
01:21:22
Speaker
I do not know if any of them are legitimate or not because they almost seem as if it's like copy and paste the same message sometimes. Yeah there is some that are legitimate and I have I have followed me on Twitter who is legitimate she like and she actually hates like all the gripe that um gfx artists get um so much so she took it out of her name because she didn't want to be associated with the bots and all that sort of stuff
01:21:50
Speaker
and all that. But no, I absolutely understand exactly what you mean. As soon as you put anything that involves words, emote, avatar, twitch, that sort of thing, they just swarm. They just swarm from nowhere.
01:22:04
Speaker
because I honestly think like that I remember when I needed like an avatarsal for the longest time I was using like a picture of it was like a picture of the moon taking ages ago yeah it was just a random picture there was no significance I was just like I really like the pictures yeah and I was just like
01:22:21
Speaker
I like this I thought I did a good job so I was like yeah I'll put it up but then it was like I need a you know I need a logo so I put out a commission like request and it was like it was honestly like that Lord of the Rings scene where they're lighting the beacons and then two seconds later they all come charging down the hill and they're all just like oh I can commission I can and the only thing that I'm kind of and again like I'm
01:22:45
Speaker
not an artist by any means. I'm not as savvy to like you know how much commissions cost or the etiquette there but one of the things I find quite annoying where there was a lot of people who were like oh I'll do your thing, DM me and they took ages to actually get to the point you know of like how much it would cost and everything and I was kind of like it was really putting me off like I remember there was one person again like not naming any names
01:23:15
Speaker
but one person who said that she would draw like she did incredible work but they basically said how it would cost something like £40 or £50 for like an outline of an avatar and that was like after really pressing I mean on the one hand I want to support like artists and things like that like but
01:23:42
Speaker
for an outline of... I mean, don't get me wrong, see if it was a high quality labour of love, really realistic kind of thing. I mean, an art was great, but I didn't think it was justified, if you know what I mean.
01:23:59
Speaker
Yeah, no, absolutely. And like you say, you're not savvy with it. But also at the same time, you there's a there's a sort of there's almost like an etiquette towards like pricing as well. Like my sister, for example, she I think she's put herself too low. Like if I'm going to be honest, she's put herself too low. She's she's done like a single amount as seven pound. And then like avatars are like 15 to 20 pound depending on
01:24:25
Speaker
how much detail, you know, and I think like maybe a bit extra if it's like a lot of detail, that sort of thing. And I think that's way too low. Absolutely. Just out of like, the prices I've seen for other people, I think that's too low. But then again, she is just starting out, you know, she's just wanting to do it at the side of while she's studying at university.
01:24:47
Speaker
And people seem to like the prices because that is cheaper, you know, it's cheaper to get it done. And if you're just starting out as well, that is probably some good, cheap prices to get art with, you know? Yeah, absolutely. But no, you can understand that at times that you might not know exactly how expensive art should be, but for an outline, for that much, it
01:25:11
Speaker
Yeah, they all have to be really good. Like really good. Because I mean, it was like that guy who I was saying who like does all the red panda artwork and I've written honestly such a great guy. Like I need to get a shout out, command for him honestly.
01:25:29
Speaker
just like just to go to his twitter because he's not like on twitch or anything he doesn't really know discord either so which is a bit of a shame because i keep trying as i said i keep trying to get him on so he can promote himself there as well and yes he's just such like a nice guy and i just i really do and i feel as if he like was suffering from the same issue as well yeah
01:25:53
Speaker
like he was like lowballing himself quite a lot he was you know he was like getting commissions for like i think maybe five seven like kind of the similar bracket like five seven dollars and things yeah and it's like you know obviously on the one hand it's great for streamers who need like a cheap collect picture for their stream but on the other hand it's like you know like he kind of needed to like volume himself more in his work because yeah
01:26:21
Speaker
because I mean that it's half I mean it's kind of half the battle like on the one hand like it's something I definitely think that people outside the streaming like I have to admit I didn't really realize that there's kind of so much more to streaming then like it's not just a case that you sit down in front of a camera play a game and that's it I mean don't get me wrong I didn't think that was entirely it but yeah that's kind of that's kind of like the stereotype you get that it's just oh look at this guy you know making a plot or something
01:26:49
Speaker
But it's like there's so much work and one of the things especially is like the appearance or your kind of branding if you know what I mean? Of the channel, you know, like obviously you've got the zombie motif and I've got the red panda and you want to make like a good impression, you know, and you want to have that kind of
01:27:08
Speaker
You wouldn't have an image, I suppose, that... I mean, obviously, unless you're an artist yourself, you know, you want to, like, promote yourself as, you know, your own identity, almost. Yeah, absolutely, yeah. Because you want to stand out in everything and, yeah, at the same time, like, having that artwork, having overlays and things, they are so, like, important for... They're not, like, essential. They're not essential at the beginning. No, no, no. But it's like...
01:27:35
Speaker
taking that step forward if you're kind of building a community and things.
Creating Unique Stream Branding
01:27:40
Speaker
I mean I would say it's definitely like commissioning artists for you know emotes and things like that and art definitely like that is a big part of it as well. Yeah I mean for me at the moment the only big thing I've got are emotes and an avatar. My overlays are actually from stream elements
01:28:00
Speaker
I just can't afford to get commissioned scenes and overlays. So I've just got stream elements at the moment, but that is definitely something I want in the future because I want something that's just my thing, you know, and I don't want it to be because I've had before people say that my overlays have been in another stream that they've seen.
01:28:21
Speaker
And it's like, oh, gosh, you know, it's like, oh, no, it makes sense because it is from stream elements. So obviously other people are going to use it, but eventually I want it. So it's just mine. So then, you know, it's like people know it's me because they see my, my overlay, they see my starting soon screen and all this sort of stuff. So I think that's what I'm excited for for the future is.
01:28:43
Speaker
commissioning an artist to just do scenes and overlays for me so that I could just feel like it's my stream properly and I'm not just taking stuff from stream elements so that makes sense.
Navigating Sponsorship Offers
01:28:54
Speaker
Yeah, no definitely. I mean I have to map my overlay, not for this stream but for
01:29:00
Speaker
with my gaming streams. I absolutely love it, but it came from the website Nerd or Die, which is a really good website. It's great for trying to get overlays and resources and things. Really great. Would recommend it. You would honestly think I'd be sponsored by these people. Yeah, it's like Nerd or Die, Game Pass, you know.
01:29:23
Speaker
the chippy down the road, you know? They're all getting shutters. I'd love to be like, just speaking of sponsors, like in general, I think my two main ones would be a local takeaway and monster energy because I drink so much monster. It's insane.
01:29:43
Speaker
I've been doing this a lot. Like, that is one of the jokes my friend and I make where he keeps saying, when are you getting sponsored by the chip shop that's in, like, where I live? And it's like, soon, one day. Soon, DM. Yeah, soon, DM me, if you want to deal. Because I know, like, one of the major sponsors I've seen kicking about Twitter is that, is it Triumph chairs or something like that?
01:30:10
Speaker
Oh yeah, we don't talk about that anymore. Because I was sponsored by them and it's a big scam basically. That's all I'll say. It just seems weird because it's like every time, I remember at the very beginning when I was just starting out you would see like loads of people sponsored by them. Yeah. And you would see lots of people like getting chairs, or not chairs, but getting like
01:30:40
Speaker
even I think I must have got a message like ages ago but I never replied to it because I was kind of like what is this? Imagine trying to convince your friends it's like oh it's a great chair it's only £279 but with my code it's only going to be £250 it's like who's going to spend that on their chair?
01:31:01
Speaker
I mean, some people do, but at the end of the day, with that whole thing, I don't know if you actually heard what happened with it all, or if you know what it's all about. But basically, just going to call them out on this podcast, just casually. I do think they're listening, so you're more than welcome. I mean, people know about them on Twitter. But basically, they take chairs from places like Amazon and all other places and just jack up the price.
01:31:31
Speaker
Oh, I did hear that, yeah. Because I saw someone sharing a picture and it was like exactly the same chair on either side. Yep. Right, okay. So yeah, that's why I'm no longer associated with them at all. And that's why I'm very careful now about it. I choose to have sponsored because I have had another company come forward to me that sell, you know, grips for controllers.
01:31:57
Speaker
Oh, yeah. Yeah. And I saw their stuff and I saw another set of things going around saying they essentially do the same thing. So I was like, yeah, no, I'm sorry. I don't really want to be sponsored by
Community Building and Authenticity in Streaming
01:32:11
Speaker
you. I'm afraid.
01:32:13
Speaker
I suppose it's nice that people want me to be sponsored by them but at the same time it was kind of one of them companies that sort of followed everyone and I feel like they would have just deemed way more people after I said no. Yeah it's just like the copy pasted message of you are a valued twitch streamer and we believe that.
01:32:33
Speaker
Because I got one, I can't even remember what company it was for, but it wasn't a well-known one. Like I had to Google it. And when I Googled it, I'm like, yeah, this is sketch. It's like, you have qualified for our affiliate programme. And it's like, I've never even heard of you. What are you?
01:32:53
Speaker
And I feel as if, especially for new streamers who are just wanting to make a quick buck, I suppose, or not a quick buck, but they want to make money off of streaming. And immediately, as soon as someone swoops in and goes, oh, you can be an affiliate and you can get a share of this. And it's kind of a bad temptation for certain people when you're like, for streaming, it has to be something that you're happy with. Because I feel as if if you're doing that for
01:33:22
Speaker
the money or you're doing it for like a particular thing it's like as long as you're happy doing it I would say like that is the main thing that kind of keeps you going it's like what we were talking about earlier about talking to your community being able to be supportive like kind of closing question but what would you say like is the most important part of being a twitch streamer like
01:33:46
Speaker
For me, I'd probably say it is definitely the community. For me, I've always wanted a place where people can feel they're just welcome and feel like they don't have to hide away and all that like I've got my best friend is trans. And just seeing how people
01:34:05
Speaker
treat trans people Nowadays just a while just in general really it's disgusting. Honestly, it actually is disgusting Yeah, and I would probably say is the best way I could I'm probably an ally to the LGBTQ plus community because I'm not I'm not involved in it like I'm straight and all that but I would call myself an ally because I am so so invested in people just being themselves and
01:34:34
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you know i always say that you should always be yourself you shouldn't be someone you're not you shouldn't be some like you shouldn't try to impress people by being someone you're not you should just be yourself and i that's what i want from my community i want everyone to be themselves i want everyone to feel like they can be themselves if anyone ever came into my chat and said anything disrespectful they are gone straight away instantly like i'd probably race my own mods to get rid of them
01:35:02
Speaker
at that point. But no, I absolutely feel the best thing, like the most important thing about being a Twitch streamer is having a community that not only support you, but you support them.
01:35:15
Speaker
No, absolutely. And it is, it's like you don't want to put on like a... because I know like a few Twitch streamers, like I've seen a couple and it's not in a bad way to them, but I know like they put on like a persona or like this kind of character of themselves.
01:35:33
Speaker
and I have heard of like one or two streamers where it's like because they've ingrained themselves so much into this persona it's like their followers are now kind of doing exactly the same thing and kind of like taking influence from that streamer and going around and everything and it's not like a bad thing I think it's just like it's a very kind of assertive thing but
01:35:57
Speaker
You just have to be careful, don't you, with what you do. I'm just a goofy British streamer. I'm silly, I laugh, I giggle. I try to be as cute as you can, but sometimes I'm just really angry and aggressive.
01:36:12
Speaker
I literally am just myself. I'd probably say the only thing that's different about me online is that I'm more confident. I'm the same as you like outside of streaming. I'm quite shy around quite a few people just because of anxiety reasons but online because you know a lot of the time people can't see my face because I don't always do camera. I rarely do camera actually. I just do it for big streams.
01:36:37
Speaker
That are like important and that but I literally just try and be more confident online because people can't see me stressing out That's probably the only thing that's different about me online compared to IRL is that I'm I tried to put myself out as more confident and I actually tell people a lot of stuff with mental health like I had a big stream where
01:36:59
Speaker
A friend of mine was having a little bit of a breakdown. Unfortunately, it was live and people did see in that I have since deleted the VOD. It might still be up there, but I have. It's in the process of being deleted, basically. And I just told him everything that I wanted to say to him, saying like, people care about you, people love you and other sort of stuff.
01:37:22
Speaker
and just telling them all that the good stuff. But then I'll go to myself, IRL, I'm like, you're shit. To myself, I'm like, you're bad. No one likes you and all this sort of stuff. And it's like, I'm so nice to everyone else, but not to myself. It's crazy. There's actually a comic. I don't know if you've seen it. It's called Cat Cafe or Cats Cafe, something like that.
01:37:45
Speaker
It's really good. I feel as if, especially in this year, I recommend it more and more. I mean the guy who draws it actually streams on Twitch, which is awesome. But it's a really wholesome comic just about all these animals going through certain things in life.
01:38:04
Speaker
I mean surprisingly it does deal with like a lot of like kind of mental health issues as well like in the very kind of simplified and kind of relatable way like there's one character just as you were saying that he goes around and he's saying to people you're awesome you're awesome you're awesome and then it shows you the last two panels he gets home and he looks at himself in the mirror
01:38:26
Speaker
and then he just turns away because he's like, he can't say it
Managing Content Creation Across Platforms
01:38:30
Speaker
to himself. Can't say it to yourself. That's literally me. Exactly. That's literally me. It is, it's like that kind of... I mean, it definitely is. Like, especially when you get stuck into streaming and things, it's like trying to both put yourself out there and get out your comfort zone, but also trying to accept yourself a lot more. Because as I said, when I did a lot of streams and
01:38:56
Speaker
Yeah, it's like some streams don't go as well as I would like. And objectively, that is fine. And that's for any new upcoming streamer. Yo, you young whipperslappers. You young whipperslappers. With your TikToks and everything. I mean, you say TikToks, but you're actually on TikTok, aren't you?
01:39:16
Speaker
Yeah I am but don't tell them that. Yeah I don't know how to do it. Can you do it on PC or does it have to be on mobile? Well you can but I think it's the same as Instagram where in fact no it's not Instagram like on computers it's terrible. I don't get it.
01:39:31
Speaker
I don't get it at all but TikTok as far as I know and if anyone's a TikToker out there please feel free to correct me but I'm sure you can only edit the video on the mobile app I don't think you can upload directly from your PC but I don't know if you can like I don't know if you can edit it on the PC I'm not sure
01:39:54
Speaker
I really struggle actually figuring out TikTok and things like that because I've got a video. I think it's the one where, it's a Red Dead stream actually, it's one of the clips where the game essentially glitched and was supposed to be chasing this guy on a horse.
01:40:10
Speaker
But the guy fell off the horse and he kept running as if he was still on the horse. And I couldn't do anything to him. I couldn't kill him or reset or anything. It wasn't working. And then all of a sudden they run into these cows and they're supposed to shoot in the air and they disperse because of the horse. Yeah, because they didn't have the horse, they didn't disperse. So they just surrounded him and just beaten up and killed him. I was like, Jesus!
01:40:37
Speaker
which is apparently now my most viewed clip on TikTok. And I'm like, great. But then the opposite of that is I've got another one that I put up of Red Dead and that's got the least amount of views. So it's like, I've got no idea how this works.
01:40:57
Speaker
because it's like some of them are like really well liked, some of them are well viewed, it's like yeah it's trying to find that balance and figure out because like see social media like except for Twitter I feel as if I'm getting a handle on Twitter yeah but everything else it's like I got told by someone the other day that
01:41:16
Speaker
Not just marketing on Twitter, but you have to market everywhere else like YouTube and TikTok, but I just don't know. If I could do TikTok on the computer, then I would absolutely be uploading them to TikTok. So I might have a look, see if I can do it on there, because I just can't do it. I wouldn't be able to edit stuff on my phone. I'd have to do it on a PC, because I have Adobe Premiere Pro on my PC. And I'm a video editor, computer through and through, or mobile. I couldn't tell you how to edit.
01:41:44
Speaker
I'd be like, oh, what? So if there is a way to do it on PC, like you say with like Instagram, you can't have that on PC. Maybe I'll make a TikTok. Who knows? Maybe I'll make a TikTok. I'll follow you. And then you can tell me how to do the goods on TikTok then, I guess.
01:42:04
Speaker
I can't remember who it was, but there was someone who, so I think it was, I don't know if you've heard of this guy, he's on Instagram, he's not really related to like, Witcher or anything, but he's called Gary Vee.
01:42:17
Speaker
on instagram so he's like a huge like um like he mainly deals in like business and things like that but he does like a lot of motivational speeches and it kind of overlaps with like kind of marketing yourself and things like that and not rushing and things like there's a lot of like lessons he has it's like it's a very good like saturday morning cartoon kind of yeah for marketing almost where it's like that message at the end of like do it this way don't do it that way
01:42:47
Speaker
and like one of the major things that he says is basically like take advantage of places like TikTok and things like that if you can because it's like because it's so big as well um just now even though like controversies aside and everything like it's still massive there's so many people on it and don't get me wrong I've never had anyone in my chat like come through and say oh I came from TikTok
01:43:13
Speaker
yeah but it's like even if because i do like a lot of cross posting from tiktok to yeah like instagram so even if a video doesn't do well on tiktok it might do better on instagram and the main point is so long as people are seeing it you know it's that visibility kind of thing yeah yeah
01:43:32
Speaker
which is always helpful but it can be very like, not, I mean a little bit stressful but it can be quite tiring having to keep them all up like to a consistent level like I mean if you look at my YouTube I've got, I mean like what you were saying earlier about
01:43:51
Speaker
editing videos. I mean I absolutely love editing but I only use like, I use an application called shortcut which is good but it keeps crashing but it's a free, you know, it's like a free application that's not like Adobe or anything like that. I mean the only reason I've got Adobe is because my sister's in the universe so I steal her account.
01:44:15
Speaker
That is pretty handy. Just get a sibling go to uni and then you've got you've got Adobe for free. Yeah I'll just hack up the internet and be like who wants to give me Adobe for free. Who wants to be my sibling for like I don't know a while. Just until I edit this video then you can go back. But I mean like I love the process but it just takes so long
01:44:41
Speaker
you know like I mean there was a video I did it took me like the whole day to do it was a video where I basically summarized the new Call of Duty game and it's a four minute video it is literally four minutes and it took me the whole day and it doesn't have like a lot of views but
01:45:03
Speaker
I mean the feedback I got from it was really positive but you know that way when you look at it you thought I spent a lot of time on this and then it's like it's just it's because it's a lot of work and because you're worrying about other things like you know because I'm on and I don't mean to like you know kind of advertise myself with my own stream. I mean it's your own stream. Yeah I'll ask one of my moderators if it's okay.
01:45:30
Speaker
But yeah it's like, I mean I'm on Instagram, Twitter, YouTube and TikTok as well and everything and there's just so many things to keep up with. Like I can dedicate like lots of time to
01:45:45
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doing compilation videos, which I absolutely love doing them.
Planning a Christmas Charity Stream
01:45:50
Speaker
But it takes so long. It takes a whole day to actually edit them, and maybe two days if it's a longer video. Yeah, for Instagram as well. I just put a lot of behind the scenes stuff there as well. It's the life of a variety of streamers, isn't it?
01:46:06
Speaker
Yeah, you do really have to dedicate time when you're not streaming to do other things. And I spent literally all of last night, I stayed up until 5am, I was making a poster for the charity stream I'm doing on Christmas. And I didn't have to do that. But I wanted to make it look nice. And then so if it gets shared around, at least it's a pretty poster that people can see and be like, oh, that's for this.
01:46:35
Speaker
you know so it's just it's crazy how much you have to dedicate not just to streaming but to like to everything else just to advertise yourself and it's just like wow it's a lot but i mean it's worth the effort though i mean it is yeah nine times out of ten no it usually is like once you see you know like people coming in and then saying oh that's great and everything and
01:47:01
Speaker
It is, it's a nice feeling like seeing your work kind of appreciated. Yeah, absolutely. And yeah, it is, it's just, as I said, the life of a variety streamer. Yeah. Because I mean especially like even like editing like these podcasts and things, like again I love it but it's just like listening to the whole thing and then chopping bits down and... Yeah. Yeah, it's wonderful.
01:47:30
Speaker
you. So you were saying there about a Christmas stream that you were doing. Yes. So do you want to like talk a little bit about that? Self plug. Whoo. I said that so subtly. You want to just plug yourself right there. Yeah. So basically
01:47:50
Speaker
The idea came from just how awful this year has been, like, it's just not been a great time. And actually, this is something that's personal with me is that I am not able to see my family this Christmas. So because of all the COVID tears and stuff like that.
01:48:09
Speaker
Basically, they're coming up Sunday to literally give me my presents, say hi, and then they're going home. That's gonna be our Christmas this year. So I thought to myself, I've always wanted to do a charity stream. I did one with my university as like a team thing. We did like a game jam, but all the money went to a charity.
01:48:30
Speaker
And it was super, super fun. So I decided I wanted to do a charity stream, but I wanted to do it on Christmas Day, because I ideally want it to be a stream where people who have nowhere to go on Christmas can come and join my chat. And they can come and play games, they can just come in literally just to chat.
01:48:52
Speaker
you know they could join me in the call and just talk about their day or anything like that you know because not a lot of people are going to have anywhere to go this christmas and i thought what better charity to have a theme where people have nowhere to go for christmas than a homeless charity um so i picked a crisis uk um because they do a lot of great work for the homeless especially like around london area and just you know in general just the uk
01:49:21
Speaker
I'm going to be doing a charity stream on Christmas Day, so the 25th of December, from 2pm till 2am, so it's a 12 hour stream. And that's GMT time, so... And yeah, Crysis have actually reached out to me, they followed me on Twitter, which was exciting. The charity followed me on Twitter.
01:49:42
Speaker
They have actually reached out to me on email. They're gonna send me some stuff as well and a t-shirt to my email to get me ready for that day. And when I get my link up and my posters, like my posters all sorted, I put that on Twitter. But once I've got my actual donation link in that, they're gonna share it around their Twitter for me. So yeah.
01:50:03
Speaker
That's amazing. It's super nice. I even said in emails, so amazing how you guys are getting involved with people who want to help you. Like it's just so nice that you're so supportive of the people who want to just raise money for you. It's incredible. So yeah, it's definitely, they're definitely a wonderful charity already. And I haven't even started raising money for them yet. Like they've already done a lot already. It's great.
01:50:29
Speaker
That is really awesome. That's going to be amazing though as well. I think it'll be nice because it's not just raising money for charity. It's also allowing people who have nowhere to go on Christmas to have a place to go. I mean, obviously some people are going to be wanting to join a stream or whatever, but they might at least keep my stream on just so it's like someone is talking to them and keeping them company. Yeah, definitely.
01:50:56
Speaker
Because, I mean, that is definitely a big thing at Christmas, or it's like a big issue, the idea of like being lonely at Christmas. Yes, exactly, yeah. It is definitely a thing that... Yeah, it is. It's a thing that a lot of people struggle with at Christmas, so... Yeah, absolutely. There's a lot of people that go through that, and especially now, like with Covid going on, not a lot of people are actually going to be able to go home for Christmas. You know, a lot of students are going to be stuck in their flats.
01:51:21
Speaker
A lot of people who live away from their families, aka me, aren't able to go back. And if we do, it has to be at a certain time, which just isn't feasible. And yeah, it's just, it's awful. But you know, if I can at least do something that involves either like helping people out or, you know, raising money for a charity, or, you know, doing both, which is what I intend to do. I've already made a better Christmas for myself, you know, so.
01:51:49
Speaker
Well, I hope when you actually do it that you spam my Discord as well as everyone else's with it because you are more than welcome to.
01:51:58
Speaker
Yeah, like I always put a link in everyone's Discord because I want people to do the same with mine. I want people to post in self promo in my place as well because at the end of the day, as much as my Discord is named after my Twitter, sorry, or Twitter, Twitch, YouTube, whatever, handle. It's not just a Twitch place for me, it's for everyone else because that's just who we are. We're just people who share a lot of the same communities and
01:52:27
Speaker
we find new people and spread them to everywhere else that's just how it is yeah no definitely and yeah i think that's awesome i really do um so you said it was 2pm GMT yes 2pm till 2am so a 12 hour stream yeah so if you've got a spare you know moment or you're currently going through like a food coma at that time
01:52:55
Speaker
No, definitely go check that out. So yeah, I think that's more or less ours. Before we wrap up and end the stream, where can these lovely people who are listening just now find your content? Oh, wow.
01:53:11
Speaker
My main platform is Twitch, which is stubborn zombie, as it says on the screen. You can also follow me on Twitter under the same name and also on YouTube under the same name. Twitter tends to be the best place because it has all my links in my bio.
01:53:29
Speaker
So you can go to both my YouTube and my Twitch from my Twitter. So yeah, feel free to have a follow on either Twitch or Twitter. I am actually doing a giveaway at 500 followers. If I get 500 followers before the end of 2020, I'm doing a 20 pound Steam giveaway. And we are actually 13 followers away. So if you want to be involved in that, then get those followers and boys and girls.
01:53:55
Speaker
Yeah, go check. Go check it out. Go, go. What are you still doing? Go, go, go. Yeah, what are you still doing here? Listen and go. Hurry up. Cheers. Oh my goodness. But yeah, I'd say Twitter is the best place to start with me and that is stubborn zombies.
01:54:12
Speaker
No, awesome. And yeah, definitely go out. Go check out, rather. You know? Yeah, my head's at Christmas just now. Yeah, go check out Stubborn Zombie. She is an awesome streamer and I am not biased because she's right here. But genuinely, go check out her content. It is really awesome and you're gonna love it. And yeah, go check out Stubborn Zombie on Christmas as well at 2pm GMT. It's gonna be awesome.
01:54:40
Speaker
And yeah, as for myself, not as exciting because everyone's so used to this plug. Come in and they're like, oh god, here he goes. And I'm just reading the chart. Like, S-Banks has beaten me to the shout out for both yourself and me.
01:54:59
Speaker
So yeah, thank you. He is an awesome person, S Banks. He's a great person. Like I said earlier, he's the person who's been second most watched in my stream, first being Redstar and then S Banks is second. So the fact that he's in my stream so much after only meeting him after a short amount of time is really, really lovely. So thank you, S Banks.
01:55:21
Speaker
yeah thank you and yeah i'll probably like follow up with him after streaming like how do you shout out and take away my job oh dear so yeah if you want to find me you can find me on as you can see by the screen you can find me on
01:55:42
Speaker
Twitter, Instagram, YouTube, Twitch of course, and TikTok, which I still don't have on that screen, I really should, under the name Satsanami42. So if you want to find updates, content, that kind of thing, feel free to check it out. And yeah, I hope you enjoy it. But yeah, before we wrap up, is there anything else you want to add?
01:56:04
Speaker
I mean I've just like I've had an absolute pleasure being on the podcast and thank you for inviting me like I've really enjoyed it.
Reflections and Closing Remarks
01:56:13
Speaker
I've always been wanting to do a podcast so this is like sort of a help to get me started and get the confidence to hopefully run my own at some point with Sophie so whenever we can get that sorted. I'm really hyped when you both start that.
01:56:31
Speaker
If I'm honest, no, I think you would be great at doing porn casts after a month. Thank you. I've legit had such a good time today and it's been really nice to just sort of sit down and chat with you and it's made me realise a lot of things about myself with streaming and hopefully you guys are listening if you're new to streaming or you know, just want some advice. Hopefully you've taken away some stuff from this podcast.
01:56:54
Speaker
Yeah, hopefully, no. But yeah, no, thank you so much for coming on, honestly. It's been great. No, no problem. It has. Yeah, so until then, until the next time, everybody in the chat, stay safe, stay awesome, and most importantly, as always, stay hydrated. Bye, guys. Bye.