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Introduction and Sponsorship
00:00:28
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Holiday Timing Discussion
00:00:54
Speaker
Oh, welcome back. Yeah. I have to move these cables around because that's quite a stretch to to fade in. Oh, yeah. Yes. So we're here on Thanksgiving Eve.
00:01:11
Speaker
And this is, I guess you call it the Black Friday episode. Yeah, yeah, definitely. This will be out on Black Friday. It's weird how fast everything goes. I know. You know, it's going to be Christmas in the blink of an eye. Because, you know, everything on TV is Black Friday, this and that. Now it's like,
00:01:33
Speaker
Yeah, is it really that soon?
Black Friday Sales Decline
00:01:36
Speaker
Yeah, Black Friday has really lost its legitimacy. There used to be real deals and stuff, but now it's all BS, I feel like. Yeah, the Black Friday begins soon now.
00:01:51
Speaker
Yeah. And the sales aren't as good and a lot of times they're manufacturing these things specifically for Black Friday. So the TV that you're buying for, excuse me, $199 is really not the $499 TV. It's one that they made with cheaper crap or the tool or whatever. Yeah.
00:02:17
Speaker
All right. Good old consumerism. Yep.
Project Updates and Break Plans
00:02:24
Speaker
So yeah, we're actually, we're waiting on the dumpster to get picked up and then we're off for five days. That's going to be glorious. We deserve it. Yeah, that's for sure. We kind of did a minor recap last week when we had John Peters on. Yep. Went through everything. But since then we've even been out of the shop. We went down and did the spray day. Oh yeah.
00:02:55
Speaker
Yeah. So, um, yeah, John was here what Wednesday last week? Um, what, uh, what do we do for those two days? And were we working on a opal?
00:03:11
Speaker
Oh, so Thursday you went to white. Oh, that's right. Um, I stayed back and, and kept working on those compact laminate cabinets, which thank God they're out of the shop. They're not fully installed yet. And we'll get to that. Um, and then Friday, same thing, just working on white Opal, the salon that we're currently wrapping up. John came, did John come by on Friday? It was that Monday.
00:03:36
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Uh, that was Monday. Yeah. When did we, yeah, we did the router bit. Yeah. Um,
00:03:46
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So yeah, that's how we wrapped up last week. Just plugging away on this salon and we're, we're, we're pretty close to done. We're, I'd say we're about 90%, 95%. I'm just a couple more things to wrap up on that and install, uh, which is good. Cause we got to get that done, get on to, um, other work we have in the book. So.
Spray Day Event Insights
00:04:08
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Uh, then Saturday, yeah, we, we left the shop about seven 30 and headed down to new doors slash United finishes in Berlin, New Jersey, which is down in like the Mount Laurel for he's area, um, sort of Southwest. Yeah. New Jersey.
00:04:31
Speaker
About an hour and a half. Yeah. Exit four on the turnpike. So shot down the turnpike. And, um, that was great. That was, um, you know, I wish there were more things like that to attend. Um, because like for the cost, like even if you just pick up one small tip and you're a business owner, it's, it's totally worth the money. Um,
00:05:02
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you know, whatever it was, like 275 bucks, something like that, 285 bucks, you know, you go down and you get, plus you get, they had breakfast, they had lunch, we left with all kinds, with three t-shirts, you know, all kinds of stuff. Crazy swag,
Golden Door Award Recap
00:05:19
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homemade lunch. Yeah, that was good. Yeah. You know, aside from all that, if you pick up one thing, even if it's just like a sanding tip,
00:05:29
Speaker
You're going to make that back 10 fold more, a hundred fold. Yeah. It's nothing like hands-on learning with a good instructor. Yeah. Um, so that was, uh, Nate, I don't know if it's Olean Olean. Yeah. I would say Olean. Yeah. But I, but I don't know at all. Yeah.
00:05:51
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So he's Nathan underscore olean painting underscore painting on on Instagram, I believe is the correct handle and and his. Oh, that's your phone. I was like, what the hell is it?
00:06:11
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his employee, Phil, was there with them as well. I believe they're just a two man team and they're professional finishers. You know, he has a shop where they spray, you know, their contract finishers for other people. And I think maybe he does like refinishing on his own as well. Like, you know, you could call him and say, hey, I want to refinish my kitchen cabinets and they'll come and take them down and refinish them.
00:06:41
Speaker
Um, so they were the, uh, the main instructors of the class along with, uh, with Chris and Dan from new doors, United finishes.
Tour of New Doors Facility
00:06:51
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And the, uh, the guys from, or two of the guys from general finishes and Dura over there, Tim and Mike. Yeah. Uh, Skyler from surf prep was there. And I think that was it in terms of.
00:07:10
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vendor representation. Yeah. Um, so the, the, um, the event was, I guess, sponsored by obviously United finishes, new doors, uh, surf prep, Apollo sprayers, big kid blocks, enduro slash general finishes slash enduro. I don't know if they trying to think of what was on the t-shirt and
00:07:39
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Was that everybody? Yeah. I think, I think that was it. Yeah. Um, so yeah, they took us through, you know, we were able to tour the new doors facility, see how they're making the doors. Um, pretty cool. Yeah. Chris gave a little demo on sort of, you know, because the, the main audience were,
00:08:05
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residential cabinet refinishers was really like what these guys' main gigs were. So he gave a little demo on sort of how they could utilize new doors to their advantage, where instead of going and refinishing these crusty old golden oak doors,
00:08:24
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You know, you could just give the client really what they want, which is a completely new look, you know, quickly, fresh, cost effectively. And, you know, they show up primes. All you got to do is, you know, shoot your top coat and finish your frames on site and you're good to go. And how really
00:08:50
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if you look at the, the financials of the whole thing, it actually works out to be, you know, almost a break even to do new doors versus refinishing old doors. Um, which makes me want to like start offering cabin and refinishing. Cause it just seems like easy money to me.
Hands-On Activities and Prizes
00:09:07
Speaker
Yeah. Um, refacing, I should say not refinishing. Right. Right. Um, replacement. Yeah. New doors will even, uh, shoot top coat for you.
00:09:21
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Yeah, I'm curious to see how the cost breaks out on that. Yeah. What was his name? Guy there at the end who lost his sprayer. Oh yeah. Cause that's what he does. He has new doors. Yeah. Yeah. I don't remember that guy's name. Yeah. Was it Derek?
00:09:46
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He was in, I don't think he was in my group. Okay. Yeah, he was in my group. He had like a, it was almost like a Donkey Kong logo. It was like Donkey Kong, like spraying paint.
00:10:04
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A surprise to us, Jackie and Tiago from Timber, we're down there. So Timber, you know, we have Walter Peters on, John Peterson back in season three. That's where Walter works. So I guess he had caught wind of the event through us and then put a bug in their ear and Timber sent them down. Yeah, that was a nice surprise. Yeah.
00:10:30
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Jackie ended up winning the Golden Door Award. So basically, aside from the tour and basically a demo on how you could use new doors, we had pre-primed doors and they took us through prepping the door and then we shot
00:10:56
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Did we shoot primer? We shot primer and then we top-coated the door that we had, excuse me, sanded. Unbeknownst to us, they were planning this competition where at the end they actually had Nate, Skyler, and was it Chris? Was he farther than either Chris or Dan? They judged these
00:11:25
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How many were there? 12? I think there were 13. Yeah. Um, so yeah, we should say that there was like a, about a dozen attendees. So a nice small and we're split into two, two groups. Um, they did a blind judging of these dozen or so doors and, uh, and chose the winner for the golden door, which was Jackie from timber and second place shocker.
00:11:53
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of all shockers was Green Street's own Rob Barone. So, Keensburg, New Jersey wins number one and number two. And it was like super close. They had to actually take the doors. They looked everything over and then they went privately and discussed it. And then they had to come back in and grab the doors and look at them. And so it was close. It's funny because
00:12:19
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You know, we, we were both sort of like Gavin more than sand. And I knew my door needed more prep work, but I was like, yeah.
00:12:30
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It was funny. I was, I sanded like the panel because we're using hand, you know, basically mostly hand, hand tools or whatever hand sanding around the edges and stuff. And I was waiting for, they had a couple of three by four surf prep sanders, but there was only two. So I was waiting and Nate comes over. He's like, Oh, he's like, how are you looking? I'm like, Oh, pretty good.
00:12:54
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And then he like feels the door. He's like, I think you need to, you know, hit this a little bit more, you know, being like super nice. And I'm like, Oh yeah, my guy didn't even say this yet. Like if you think that, uh, I would have thought that this was sanded. This one thing we've done is sanded. Yeah. Um,
00:13:16
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So yeah, I mean, it was a good time. It was. It was. The food was great.
New Equipment Acquisition
00:13:20
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We made some good relationships, new relationships. Yeah. I mean, even the folks at timber, we really not met. Um, no. And so we have that thing going for us now. Yep. Um, of course, Nathan and Phil. Yeah. Um, and sort of built upon the relationship we have with Chris and Dan.
00:13:45
Speaker
Yeah. Overall, very good, very good event. Yeah. It was all day fair. We, you know, basically, uh, left at seven 30, got back to the shop at seven 30. And we, we, uh, Oh, I won the big kid blocks in the raffle. So they raffled off a, an Apollo 7700 atomizer gun, um, uh, set a big kid block. So I won that. And that was like, I don't know, half a dozen pieces or so. The big kid blocks are these acrylic.
00:14:14
Speaker
laser cut acrylic sanding blocks that have, they actually have hook and loop on them, but you can take that off also and just use PSA sandpaper. Um, and you know, a bunch of different shapes like a, a three by six, a two by five, a round, like a two inch round, a triangle, a little, uh,
00:14:39
Speaker
like a rectangle with a Delta N kind of thing. Yeah. That's the one we like, I think the most. Yeah. Some small, you know, they're really good for sanded panels, sanded edges, stuff like that. Just because that was one of the main things that Nathan and Phil emphasize was not sanding for smooth, but sanding for flat.
00:15:03
Speaker
Yeah. Um, because you know, that's how you get the most, that's how you get the best look on your finishes. Uh, it has to be smooth, but it also has to be flat. Yeah. Didn't they say something like smooth as a result of flat or something like that? Uh, maybe. Oh yeah. We were split up. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I keep forgetting. Um,
00:15:27
Speaker
Uh, so yeah, they, they raffled off the big kid blocks, the spray gun. Um, what else? I feel like there was another couple, like bigger, bigger things. Bunch of hats. You, you want a hat. Yeah. Um, I mean, I think everybody got something. Yeah. I thought there was another big, was it a surf prep?
00:15:50
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. There was the one, there was the demo surf prep. Yeah. Yeah. That guy that was in my, uh, my group got that. So yeah. Three by four surf prep sander. Not as good as a unida, but pretty good. Yeah. We were throwing the barbs and not barbs, but we were throwing them out, out the little comments here. Um,
00:16:19
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Oh, so yeah, this is man. My mind shot. Uh, so we ended up leaving with an Apollo sprayer, Apollo turbine. We, um, you know, from like the beginning, as soon as the turbine was broken out, I'm like, Oh, Dan, I'm like, uh, what are you guys selling that demo unit for it? Uh, at the end of the class. And, you know, I started, I kept prodding at, at he and Chris and, um,
00:16:47
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Yeah. It's a nice unit. Yes. We, we left with a, uh, an Apollo precision five pro L E. I think it's called. Yeah. It's a five stage turbine, uh,
Transition to Sprayed Finishes
00:16:59
Speaker
with the 7,700 atomizer gun. And, um, it's a top cup setup. We got the PPS bought the PPS adapter so we can keep using PPS cups, um, which will be nice because, um, it doesn't seem like we need to use a pressure cup anymore with this Enduro.
00:17:18
Speaker
which I don't know, I'm actually wondering if that was source of the issue because we're sort of pushing it more with a pressure cup.
00:17:28
Speaker
Yeah. I mean, definitely the, the cleanliness of the air was there. That was definitely a big thing. That was the main reason was having water in the lines. And I'm not sure that ever really, you know, how long does it take for that to dry up? So even if you've got your air, you know, our air was super wet because of all the use of the compressor between the laser and the Dyna braid. Um, and we don't have a dryer.
00:17:56
Speaker
just some water separators. You know, even if we now have stopped using those as much because of just the workflow, how long does it take for the moisture to get out of all the lines that already have moisture in them? Yeah. That's a good question, actually. Dan, I think said something to me about how quickly it builds. Yeah. Yeah.
00:18:24
Speaker
So we're looking forward to trying that new unit out. Yeah. Got a bunch of stuff that we plan on spraying coming up. I mean, basically plan. We plan. We plan on spraying everything from here on out. Yeah. You know, the vesting was great in the old shop. It was great here before we had the booth. But, you know, there's a reason that sprayed finishes are
00:18:50
Speaker
You know, predominantly used because they're fast and they're good and. That was a lady from that magazine. She wants to come and interview us in like the fall. We were in a wood.
00:19:10
Speaker
would review or would shop review. I don't remember the name of it. I'd never heard
Shop Updates and Magazine Feature
00:19:14
Speaker
of it. Some kind of magazine for winning the street big. Seems like it's kind of like one of those pay to play magazines, you know, because all the articles were like.
00:19:26
Speaker
This brand says, you know, whatever. But, you know, whatever. I mean, I guess that's all magazines. But they ran a little article about the street big contest and they reached out for some additional comments to us and they said they want to come interview us in the fall. That'd be cool. Yeah. What the hell are we talking about? The sprayer?
00:19:50
Speaker
Yeah. We were talking about sort of shifting over from the wipe on finishes to spraying. Yeah. Uh, vesting, you know, great finish, looks great, feels great, but it's just very time consuming. So think about the amount of time it takes to, let's say you got a tabletop and it's three feet by six feet.
00:20:12
Speaker
You have to wipe the finish off or apply the finish, buff it in, wipe it off, cure it, sand it, repeat. Three times. Three total coats. The time it takes to just spray that top
00:20:31
Speaker
and set it off to side. These water-based finishes dry in about an hour tops. They're ready for recoat in an hour as long as the shop isn't like 50 degrees. And going to be a little bit more durable, going to be a little bit more water resistant. So it's a good option overall. Yeah.
00:20:55
Speaker
I'm, I think you summarized it well when, when you say that this is, this is what a production shop uses for many reasons. I mean, there, nobody's really doing hand applied finish. No. Um, I'm kind of kicking myself now cause I have, uh, some panels in my kitchen that I did with vesting.
00:21:23
Speaker
Thinking about maybe redoing them. Yeah. I don't know how hard it would be to get all that off. It's not easy. I mean, I think it's only four doors or so that I have finished and I'm not worried about the inside, just the outside. So maybe with some diligent scraping.
00:21:50
Speaker
Only thing is it's been a year and the vesting is inside of it. Yeah. But I could always spray on top and see what happens. True. It's a good test case. Yeah. I mean, we've got a bunch of vesting too that could get used. Um, so yeah, we've got a new sprayer.
Salon Project Challenges
00:22:11
Speaker
Monday we, uh, well, so Sunday Adam came from three dot and picked up the boxes. So all the boxes are officially out of the shop. Yeah. I've seen his Instagram posts. He's a busy printing labels, putting them in boxes.
00:22:19
Speaker
Um,
00:22:31
Speaker
So we're glad to see those gone. Um, that was, uh, the worst of the three. Well, I don't know. The first one was probably the worst. I think I remember it was the schedule. I think that we had to keep that compounded it. Yeah. Yeah. Just coming off of being really busy, getting into that, being behind, having a, you know, um, just really bust ass to get them out was, it was a lot. Um, my hands every morning.
00:23:00
Speaker
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00:24:43
Speaker
Oh, when we were, when our blades, uh, yeah. So when, uh, I think we talked about it when, when Paul bought rich carbide, uh, Paul was the owner is, was and is the owner of Everlast saw, which is a, an industrial saw blade manufacturer, um, who was, you know, making some blades or rich carbide for a long time. Um, when he acquired rich carbide, we had sent our blades to New Jersey to be sharpened by rich carbide.
00:25:12
Speaker
And, you know, somewhere in between there, they had been acquired by Everlast. So our blades were sort of in limbo because they went from New Jersey to Kansas and we, you know, uh, we didn't know like what was going on because it had been, you know, a couple of weeks or something. Um, so I called up and got, and got Paul on the phone and, and talked to him for a little bit. Yeah. And they had a huge backlog because of it too, I think. Yeah. Um,
00:25:42
Speaker
Yeah. And, uh, like we said last week, uh, we got a shop full of, uh, their blades here. Oh yeah. Yeah. We're not. And you know, we, we purchased them. We're not, uh, just shills. Right. Yeah. They're, um, they're all basically rich carbide and Everlast. Yeah. So yeah. Uh, Monday we, uh,
00:26:10
Speaker
We wrapped up a couple little things for the salon and yesterday, which was Tuesday, we went over there and started to install the backwash station, I think they're calling it. It's basically where they shampoo the hair, you know, where the sinks are. And that's what we're using all that compact laminate for.
00:26:31
Speaker
So this is an expansion of an existing salon into the adjacent space to where they are now.
Plumbing and Cabinetry Issues
00:26:40
Speaker
So basically we're just matching everything to what was already built. Now originally they built this backwash station out of just laminate and apparently it did not last very long. So they had to rebuild it and they used the compact laminate.
00:26:58
Speaker
Cause I guess somebody recommended it. I was going to say, I don't know why. Yeah. I don't know if that was Fez or what, because I don't think Fez sells starboard. Do they? Uh, I don't know what, you know, that the only time I could really use it was with Tom. I think it comes from Atlantic. Well, when you had to get pricing on it, where'd you go from?
00:27:21
Speaker
It was, it was either Atlantic or Fez. I think it was Atlantic because Fez was the first call, I think, and it wasn't, wasn't through them. It was probably the only option. It was probably the only product that Fez had that sort of fit the bill. And, you know, if you call and ask a vendor or something, they're just going to tell you what they have. You know what I mean? They're not going to be like, wow, we have this, but it's really going to be a pain in the dick.
00:27:49
Speaker
And it's $22 a square foot. So the guy who built the other one must have had a CNC because that's really the best way I think to cut this stuff because you can really turn your feeds and speeds way down, go multiple passes to get down through it. It's really not something that that's cut well.
00:28:12
Speaker
with traditional circular carbide blades. Because I tried several blades, the blade geometry and everything that was recommended by Wilson Art, and it just cut like garbage.
00:28:29
Speaker
So really not super satisfied with how it came out because we have areas of a blowout and chip out and stuff that had to sort of be feathered in. But luckily, it's it's mostly just a carcass to house plumbing. And the guest side is all stone, basically.
00:28:52
Speaker
So the only people that will see the backside of the doors where we got the blowout and stuff is, you know, are the plumbers and maybe some of the stylists for some reason, they have to get inside of there. But yeah, they're not going to notice anything. No.
00:29:10
Speaker
So a learning experience. We won't. If that comes across the desk again, well, we will protest. We will suggest several other options. Yeah. I mean, Azek would have been so easy. Starboard, same thing. I mean, I think it's like.
Sink Leakages and Material Choices
00:29:27
Speaker
Fix it at the source. Like, why is the sink leaking all the time? Right. Because, you know, my sister-in-law owns a salon and, you know, my wife works there and they've both been doing it for over 20 years nearing, you know, I wouldn't say nearing 30, but over 20 years. And I'm like, do you guys like sinks leak all the time? They're like, no. Like, oh,
00:29:51
Speaker
Okay, whatever. So I don't know if it just has to do with whatever types of sinks they use. They're like, I think they're articulating. I don't know if it's a bad sink, if it's a bad plumber, if it's just the design does not lend itself to being non-leakable. I don't know. Yeah, it seems like it was a plumbing issue and not a millwork issue.
00:30:14
Speaker
Yeah. I mean, laminate, just like plain TFL is probably not a good, good choice anyway, just because it's a wet environment. But, um, you know, using half inch compact laminate is just a pain. Azek would have been the easiest thing I think. Yeah. Um,
00:30:33
Speaker
So yeah, we couldn't even get that fully installed because some of the plumbing was in a bad spot. I, we had checked it. Um, but I don't know. I don't know what happened. Uh, two of the supply lines needed to be moved over, but it should just be like 45 minutes for this plumber to a thing. That's probably going to take them the longest getting the water out of the lines.
00:30:53
Speaker
Yeah, so that he can cut it. But it's all packed, so they just got to do like a little bit of a 90, a couple of 90s, and they'll be where they need to be. We'll bring them up into one, one of the cabinets, the middle sink base, and then they can tee out of there and feed the other two, two sinks. They have individual drains, but they have. There's only one. There's four supply lines. I don't know why, but
00:31:23
Speaker
I don't know. It's interesting the arrangement for volume. You know, if, if it was just one hot, one cold, it might not have the volume to handle three sinks. Yeah, that's a good point. Although, I mean, what are you going to have one and then two? Yeah. Well, you never have three sinks in one room. Oh yeah. But I mean, like if you're taking a shower upstairs and doing laundry or whatever. Well, yeah, but the, yeah, the bathroom's being fed by a different line or something.
00:31:53
Speaker
I mean, I know in my house because it's old that like, if you're taking a shower upstairs and I'm washing the dishes downstairs that we both can have less water. Yeah. Yeah. The way my house is plumbed, that shower downstairs is really affected by the kitchen sink. Yeah. So I always tell my wife, I'm going to take a shower. Don't play with the water. Yeah. Don't turn the hot water on.
00:32:19
Speaker
So yeah, it's funny, the idiosyncrasies of a house and the plumbing and stuff like that. So yeah, so we couldn't finish installing that. I mean, it took me, we left about two, two 30. Yeah. And I mean, we're there at eight o'clock. It took me all that time just to install one sync base, screw the pilasters to the other sync base.
00:32:43
Speaker
and skeletonize the bottoms of the three of them because they're just, that material is just so brutal. Drilling those holes, you know? Yeah. Um, it's like Corian where you can't cut a square corner because you're, it's liable to crack. Um, so I had to, you know, drill four holes and then connect the dots to cut out the bottoms. Um, and I was using an 11 16th twist bit.
00:33:10
Speaker
Um, cause it was just something that we had that we were never going to use. I knew it was going to get destroyed. And, uh, I sharpened it before we even came, you know, I hit it on the thousand grit stone and I had it sticky sharp. And, uh, you know, it was probably a good five minutes per hole to drill the hole with a ton of pressure, you know, putting my full body weight of
00:33:37
Speaker
200 plus pounds on there. Your hand was all red. Yeah, because I'm just pushing down on the back of the drill so hard. Um, cutting it with a jigsaw wasn't too bad using a metal, metal jigsaw blade. I only use two blades to cut before, before bottom. So it cuts pretty well with the jigsaw.
Upcoming Projects Overview
00:33:57
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Um,
00:33:59
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And then you got the bench all wrapped up. Yeah. The bench, the long top, a couple of panels, finished the station drawers. Yeah. Yeah. So all we got left is like, what, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, seven fillers. Um, I think we've got to put some cleats in the
00:34:21
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in those two esthetician rooms or whatever they are in treatment rooms. Yeah. Um, yeah, I think, yeah, I think those get, uh, Oh, a lot where it goes to the wall. Yeah. There's like that 26 inch space. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, we got that those, um,
00:34:41
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kind of make what to end panels. Um, did the, did the esthetician rooms get end panels in that on that? Uh, cause we have two panels that seem to fit that description, but
00:34:57
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I don't know. We could always put them in. I don't know what they plan on putting in there, if anything. Maybe like a hamper. Jacqueline just texted me, you guys at the shop today. For the next 15 minutes. Or another half hour.
00:35:20
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So yeah, we got that. Some, some end panels. We got to make new end panels for the little front reception area because we had the shim. Yeah. To get the front of the cabinets coplaner, I had to shim them out like five eighths off the wall or something. Yeah. That's, that's kind of what happened on, on almost all the cabinets. Yeah. Um, we have two and a half sheets or so of that material. So that's not a big deal. Uh, we got a,
00:35:47
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I'm going to drop off that cabinet. You want to bring that cabinet over? Yeah, we're cutting down in some form or fashion a cabinet. Jacqueline. Yeah, I can open the.
00:36:24
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Oh, yes, we got that stuff. We got a mic of the shelves. Yeah. And wrap up the backwash thing and make one more top countertop for the little like break area. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Almost right. I really keep forgetting about that. So that's that's pretty simple. It's just got like a little jog, but we'll just cut that.
00:36:53
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We'll leave it a little bit big. We'll, we'll, uh, make a template on site and cut that on site. Um, yeah. And then we're out of that one. Um, did Lindsey say anything about, uh, what was that? Uh, watch brow or something like that. He was, uh, I forgot to ask her about it. Oh, it's like an eyebrow. Yeah. No. Um, we're going to be doing a bankette, like a 24.
00:37:22
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let me four foot eight. Bankette, uh, looks like what Lindsay or a coffee is a coffee place. Um, yeah, I think so. He wants that channel back on it. We don't, we're not having anything to do with that.
00:37:48
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but yeah, channel back and, and a cushion. Um, let's see. What did I think it was? Yeah. Like a cold, cold brew or something. Wasn't it? Hmm. Golf and cold brew. Yeah. It's a, um, if it's the same place, California cold company, coffee.
00:38:19
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This one's in Manal. Yeah, this gotta be this Manal open, but they're open in another location. I mean, they must have hot coffee too. Yeah. Because who, you know, you can't drink cold coffee all year long.
00:38:33
Speaker
No, um, I'm not sure how they heat it up even after they, cause I'm trying to think, did I have a cold brew coffee that was hot? Is, does that, does that go against it? Defeats the purpose. Yeah. I mean, they probably just have both hot coffee and cold brew coffee.
00:38:53
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Yeah. Cause it's like infused or something like that. Right. When it's cold, they let it drip through a process. Yeah. You just let it sit with the grounds for an extended period of time. Then you filter it out. You know, it's.
00:39:10
Speaker
whatever. Maybe it's supposed to be less bitter or something like that. Which acid is the nice, that's like the nice part about coffee is the acid. I like a less acid or more acid, less bitter.
00:39:29
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So yeah, I'd be doing a bank cat. It looks like waiting on a finished choice for that. That's like, you know, they need that like tomorrow kind of thing. We got, uh, the, the oak pieces that we were talking about and get started on those next week. First thing, you know, that, um, that client's pretty anxious. Should be a, that should be a pretty,
00:39:48
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straightforward build. I'm getting back to our roots, just solid, you know, solid oak doors and then panels and stuff like that. Um, the bleacher parts came in today. Oh yeah. We're building a table and four stools out of some, um, Notre Dame redwood leacher pieces. Yeah. Little chunks. Yeah. Um, that should be cool.
00:40:15
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I don't have like a pipe, you know, gas pipe base that we're buying is what the client was looking for. And, uh,
00:40:25
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Yeah. They'd like to get that done before the holidays. We have the historical society display cabinets. We're waiting to get paid on that. They were like, Oh yeah. Uh, you know, so once you're done, you sign this thing and then the town will pay. I'm like, uh, yeah, no, that's not gonna work that way. Um, so they're gonna, they're supposed to be cutting us a check and then get reimbursed by town.
Holiday Season and Project Pressure
00:40:50
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Uh, so yeah, we've got a lot, a lot going on. Got a lot of feelers out there and, and, uh, and Christmas will be here before we know it. Yeah. Yeah. Cause it's what it's like. Well, this year it's like a month, I guess, between sometimes it's only like three weeks could three plus weeks between the holidays, it seems. Um, yeah.
00:41:18
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I feel like it's always at least like about four weeks. Does this November have an extra week in it or something like that? Yeah. Five weeks this month. Yeah.
00:41:30
Speaker
Uh, one thing I want to say is, uh, definitely want to thank our third sponsor. You need a, yeah. I've been using that three by four standard a lot. And, uh, something I found it's really good for is because you're not dealing with like that, that aggressive rotation, like with the, uh, compact laminate.
00:41:52
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Yesterday morning, I was prepping the little toe kick pieces. So they're just like half inch by four by had a three at 17 and two at 14. So I had to, I had to hit the edges a little bit.
00:42:05
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on the edge sander and then I, you know, tip them up to get like, just to break the edge. And because that material is so hard, it basically just burns the edge. You know, so I get this little chamfer, but it's all burnt. And, you know, trying to like clean that up with a orbital sander, especially like the Dynabrade or something like that, that's relatively aggressive.
00:42:30
Speaker
It's a little sketchy because you have this rotation and you're bearing down on only this like one sixteenth of an inch and any little bit of movement, you're going to be really drastically changing the shape of that. The nice thing that I found about the 3x4 sanders is that
00:42:48
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they're like a little more gentle. It's definitely not an aggressive sander. I'm sure if you put 100 grit on there or something, you could move a lot of material. But with like a piece of 150 or 220, you could just hit these edges and remain really controlled because it's a really small form factor.
00:43:15
Speaker
basically like gripping like a baseball, and you just have this little three by four pad that's orbiting.
00:43:22
Speaker
I like it. Yeah. I never had one before. And, um, it's definitely changed the way I approach, especially the prep work with the painting and things like that. Yeah. It's, you know, it's, it's scary with an orbital sander on paint and stuff. You know, I feel like you burn through a lot faster than you do with this. And this really moves primer and paint, but, but doesn't sand through really quickly. It's much easier to control. Um,
00:43:52
Speaker
So yeah, I mean, you've been really happy with them. Yeah. If you've never tried one, it's, it's definitely something I would recommend. Yeah. And you know, we haven't tried any of their other Sanders. Um, but just judging by these, you know, I'm sure you'd be, if you're in the market for a, an orbital, you know, they have the paddle style orbitals. Um, I give them a shot. Yeah. Yeah.
00:44:16
Speaker
It's like anything there, you know, you're not going to get it for the price of a DeWalt. No, but if you're like us, you own festival, you own Dyna braid, you own, you know, nice expensive Sanders, you know, these are on par. This is, you know, you get what you pay for when it comes to a sander. This is high quality stuff. Yeah.
00:44:41
Speaker
People walk by, it sounds like they're inside the shop. Yeah, I heard that right through my headphones. Got that nice thin window right there.
Thanksgiving Plans and Traditions
00:44:50
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So yeah, I made my baked corn muffins this morning. That sounds good. Only 12 though. So my mom, you know, we're all bringing stuff and she's like, Oh, can you bring corn muffins? I'm like, yeah, that's cool. So my wife's gluten-free. So I put on the shopping list gluten-free corn muffin mix.
00:45:13
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And she only bought one box, which only made 12 corn muffins. Yeah. There's eight people. I feel like that's not going to cut it. No. And what size muffin is it? Just like a regular cupcake. Oh, yeah. I like that Mondo bodega size muffin. No, that's more like a breakfast muffin, I feel like, and less like a side dish muffin.
00:45:40
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So I don't know if I go get another box of that. Oh, but what I was getting at is I made, uh, some John Peters honey butter. That sounds good. On the side with that, that really dark honey. Yeah. When I go home, I'm going to make some toast and put that on. Yeah. Oh yeah. Butter and honey. I love that.
00:45:58
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Yeah, I got to go home and see what kind of turkey my wife brought back. Yeah, it's not frozen, is it? No, I was going to say you're fucked if it is. They take forever. I know. I know. Yeah, it's all wrapped up. I got to take it apart and see what's in there. I got to make deviled eggs.
00:46:20
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I made my sweet potatoes on Sunday, froze them, which I'm not against, froze them, pulled them out this morning, put them in the fridge, and then I'll put the marshmallows on top tomorrow morning before we leave, which don't be a snob on Thanksgiving. We were talking about this. Put the marshmallows on the sweet potatoes. You line up your marshmallows or you just dump them on?
00:46:50
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I'm using full size, but I'm going to cut them in half. Okay. Because the, they have that cornstarch or whatever on the outside. So it's like the mini marshmallows. It's like too much of that cornstarch. I feel like that's an America's test kitchen trick. So I've come in half and put them on top, line them up like little soldiers. Yeah.
00:47:09
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I think Allie's making a flan. She's gluten-free, no pie. She did show, I woke up and there was a pie on the counter. It says gluten-free cherry. I think, I don't know if Mallory gets them for Thanksgiving. Yeah, I feel like I've had one.
00:47:31
Speaker
I might, I think I might've gotten it at Whole Foods or something like that. Yeah. I think they have gluten-free pies, like fruit pies. Yeah. Um, I know where she used to work, they would, the owner would always get them, uh, like a delicious orchards pie. Oh yeah. So it might be from there. I'm sure. I mean, a lot of places do gluten-free stuff now. Yeah. Um, yeah, I think we're getting a glue flourless, uh,
00:48:00
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chocolate something or other. You guys got the most unorthodox Thanksgiving. Yeah. You know, growing up, I never had a Turkey.
00:48:12
Speaker
We had Italian food. Well, gee, lasagna. Yeah. Yeah. We, somebody would always bring a lasagna, but yeah, I never had a turkey till I was, you know, an adult. Turkey's the least of my concerns. If there was no Turkey on Thanksgiving, I'd be fine, but you gotta have no stuffing is crazy. Yeah. Like, but I, yeah, I didn't grow up with any of the American style. Um, Thanksgiving fixings.
00:48:38
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Which is funny because it's such an American holiday. You figure that everybody would just, you know, for that one day adopt the. Yeah. My mom was a stubborn cook. Like why even celebrate Thanksgiving at that point? It's like, just don't do it. Yeah. That's yeah. I mean, you guys know I come from sort of like an immigrant upbringing, but I bet all the modern immigrants are that got turkeys on the table. Yeah.
00:49:06
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I mean, all the Hispanic immigrants, they're not serving, well, maybe they are, but I'm, I'm supposing they got turkeys on the table. Yeah. You know, they might have their, their version of the lasagna on the side, you know, the second table stuff. Yeah. I think tamales are pretty popular on Thanksgiving. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I like a good tamale. Yeah.
00:49:32
Speaker
Yeah, you gotta have the lard in there though. If they don't have lard, I don't want them. My sister-in-law makes them in their cheese veg... Well, they're pescatarian, I guess, whatever. No lard in there. Yeah, no. Gotta have some kind of good grease in there. Not like vegetable oil, bacon fat, lard, something good.
00:49:55
Speaker
Yeah, I told you about the tamale lady that used to come by the motorcycle club meetings. Yeah.
Nostalgic Tamale Lady Story
00:50:01
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You'd have like a, one of those igloo coolers, you know, that kind of had like that pyramids kind of top on it that looks like a little house. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You'd have one of those just loaded up with little tamale stacked up in there. A dollar each. Yeah. Well, you can imagine how many tamales you'd eat. Yeah.
00:50:23
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They were good, too. You know, you open that thing up, steam's pumping out of there. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Man, they didn't pick up a fucking dumpster yet. Yeah, I forgot all about it. What's going on? The one day we needed it early. I know not here. We checked the tracking. We got tracking on the truck. Does it still say six stops? I'm about to find out. It does. That's bad sign. Yeah.
00:51:01
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Yeah, it does say six stops. Hmm. I'd have to wait until Friday. Yeah. Or whatever. I can just shoot back over here and, uh, bring it in. What's up with that? Usually they pick it up so early. Right. We even, we asked them to like, maybe come a little bit later that time and they were like, huh,
00:51:32
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I mean, it shows like where the truck is allegedly. And it shows it's like in, is in town. It's in like Leonardo, but it still says your truck has six more stops, but it it's been, that's where the truck has been the entire time. Yeah. Since early this morning. Yeah. It's like kind of like over by my house.
00:52:00
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Yeah, it shows it's on East road. That just must be the first stop. What's over there on East road? I don't know. Oh, look out the window. No, that's not, that was like a pedestrian, a diesel truck.
00:52:34
Speaker
Well, I guess that that will bid you farewell. Yeah. I'm going to wish everybody a happy Thanksgiving.
Support for Small Businesses
00:52:42
Speaker
Yeah. Happy Black Friday. Yeah. Spend some money at a small business. Yeah. That's a good, a good recommendation. Yeah. Well, I think Saturday they call small business Saturday. Oh.
00:52:58
Speaker
Screw Black Friday. Don't give those corporate picture money. Spend some money with a small business on Saturday. You're going to get something that's better quality and you're going to be helping somebody close to home versus some. Most of that money gets back into the community too. Yeah, exactly. Otherwise you're just lying in some CEO's pockets.
00:53:20
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And we'll leave you with that note. Yeah. Don't eat too much. Well, if you're hearing this, it's too late. You get back on the saddle on Monday. Yeah. See you next week. Take care. We truly appreciate you listening. If you want to support the show, leave us a review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Share the show with your friends or consider subscribing to our Patreon. We'll see you next week.