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Episode 35: The Final Starrcast/All In Episode Feat. Blue Meanie & Jeff Cobb
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During today's hangout the boys wrap-up talking about their Starrcast/All In experience by playing interviews with Blue Meanie & Jeff Cobb! Throughout the show you'll hear clips of Cody Rhodes from Botchamania Live, the Young Bucks at the weigh in, & Hangman Page's confession all recorded live at Starrcast! Also this week at the request of @suplexandstilettos we play "Marry, Fuck or Kill" using the members of The Shield!
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Transcript
Intro and Opinions on Braun Strowman & Kevin Owens
00:00:00
Speaker
Hey everybody, welcome to another episode of Predetermined, a Pro Wrestling Hangout. I'm your host, Garrett Callender, and with me, as always, a man who, like his hero Kevin Owens, is ready to just be friends with Braun Strowman again for whatever reason. Derek Halpin. I am not ready to be friends with Braun Strowman for whatever reason. Fuck Braun Strowman. Hey, if you're hero's friends with him, you're friends with him. You follow your buddy blindly.
00:00:24
Speaker
Apparently, he's not friends with him. Apparently, he does whatever he wants, according to him. He follows some rules. Well, he learned that he gets his ass kicked by this guy, so you know, what he wants is to not get his ass kicked again, so he just minds his fucking business. Apparently,
Wrestling Roster: Strowman, McIntyre & Ziggler
00:00:39
Speaker
he has the thing against the shield, which is apparently what most of the roster feels, and justifiably so.
00:00:47
Speaker
Like, it's okay when those three dudes come together to beat up on everybody else, but not when it happens to them. If I'm reading the creative right. Who in that roster right now that's, you know, jumping into that group that's fighting the shield is like, hey, I got a buddy now. Is it Curt Hawkins? Like, who would do down there? It's like, I'm just glad to be part of something. Conveniently, it's just all of the heels. Gender looks really happy to be a part of the uprising.
00:01:13
Speaker
Well, I mean, that seems like it would be his deal. Like he seems like he had some beef with Roman and he kind of just wants to fuck shit up once in a while.
00:01:22
Speaker
everyone's had some you know they spent how many months maybe even a year giving momentum to Braun Strowman as a baby face and then when it was inconvenient for him being an over monster baby face they just willy-nilly switch that so that he could align with Drew McIntyre and Dolph Ziggler. That's stupid shit. Sometimes we do things that are irrational.
00:01:45
Speaker
I have listened to so many bands for a girl that I had no interest in. This is Braun Strowman right now. You know, he wants to be in the main event picture. He's got to be a little bit of a bad boy. He had the money in the bank briefcase. He didn't need to do shit for a girl.
Strowman's Relationships & Motivations
00:02:03
Speaker
He's trying to impress Alexa Bliss. He can't be a babyface and be like pals with the meanest little girl in town. He clearly already had her heart. He didn't have to do shit. He sold his soul to a guy who was way past his main event prime. Derek hit my goddamn music.
00:03:01
Speaker
worst intro ever you think that was the worst one we've ever done worst intro ever so you think people have already tuned out I hope so you hope so for their sake see look at this you used to be a baby face and now you're turning heel before our eyes for no reason yeah we have a great episode on tap today you want to bring up fucking raw
00:03:27
Speaker
Well, if your favorite wrestler is the heel now, asshole, if your favorite wrestler is there, we got to talk about him once in a while, right? No, no, I didn't watch. I got five minutes in and I tuned out. So my favorite wrestler didn't keep me around. Hey, well, Derek is, you know, reflecting on what's going on with his favorite wrestler. If you could just take a minute with me here to, to just, you know, great review. Subscribe. We love it when you do that. I know we mentioned it a lot.
00:03:54
Speaker
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Listener Engagement & Incentives
00:04:10
Speaker
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00:04:19
Speaker
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00:04:35
Speaker
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Social Media & Interaction
00:04:41
Speaker
And if you've got some time, you should already be following us on our social media at Wrestle hang out on Facebook at Wrestle hang out on Twitter at predetermined podcast on Instagram. Follow us. We have some fun interactions with our listeners. We do some polls. We post some pictures, lots of good stuff on there to catch up with us. And yeah.
00:04:59
Speaker
But I want to start off before we get into Starcast. We want to do our first, you know, listener submitted match. So for our first listener submitted match, not really a match, we got a submission from Lauren, a.k.a. Suplex and Stilettos on Instagram.
Mary, Fuck, Kill: The Shield Edition
00:05:18
Speaker
She wants you and I to play Mary Fucker Kill with the Shield. Man.
00:05:25
Speaker
You gave me a little heads up on this, which I kind of wish you hadn't done, because the answer probably would have been a lot better if you had just dropped it on me right in the middle of the episode. But I've had a few days to think about this, and I've got a pretty, pretty elaborate response for Mary Fucker Kill with Seth Rollins, Dean Ambrose, and Roman Reigns. So I'm assuming you have yours thought out as well. Yeah, the second I got this proposed to me, I knew immediately.
00:05:55
Speaker
Did it take you long to come up with it, or did you have it figured out within the first, like, 30 seconds? Well, I mean, it took as long as it took for me to find the page in my diary where I already wrote this out. Oh, you already had an answer. Yeah, I mean, that's... This is what I sit around thinking about all day, man. Like, this isn't a...
00:06:11
Speaker
This is my first rodeo what three male wrestlers you and Mary fucker kill It's not if you ever noticed the game is not Mary fuck and ignore like it literally jumps from wedlock to sexual intercourse to murder I Mean it's a rough game. It's it's not for everybody and it's always gonna leave one person out there is no middle ground on whatever your answer is and
00:06:37
Speaker
Well, I want to hear yours, man. What do you got? You want me to go first? I hope it's not the exact same answer as mine, but maybe we'll... That's a possibility. It is entirely possible. So the first
Marriage Choice: Roman Reigns
00:06:47
Speaker
option that you're presented with is the ability to marry one of the members of the shield.
00:06:52
Speaker
And this is going to upset some people. God damn it. I think we're already on the same path. But I'm going to marry Roman Reigns. All right. Same. Marrying Roman Reigns seems like a smart business decision. Vince would probably agree. He's probably, you know, going to be the top main event guy for a while. So, you know, he's bringing in the money. You know, since he's in that position in the company, he's good with kids. So if we decide to adopt, I imagine he'll be great with kids.
00:07:22
Speaker
Um, I don't know. He seems like a nice enough guy. I haven't heard enough. I haven't heard any stories about him being a dick. So it doesn't seem like it's going to be somebody that if I'm spending my life with, with the guy that I'm going to like, I mean, I guess I'm not going to be happy regardless because I'm being forced to play this game. But out of all the guys there, I think he's the one I'd most be okay and have the best chance of surviving with being attached to for life.
00:07:49
Speaker
just the I'm just you two like you know cooking together making a pot like in the movie ghost just any interaction that's romantic between you two brings me a fair amount of joy but you know you can plug me in there too and it probably looks the same
00:08:07
Speaker
So is that your rationale? Well, OK. Mine for Roman was, yes, I will also marry Roman. He seems like a great father. You see that picture of him drinking that tea cup? He's got his pinky out with his daughter. Yeah, he's good with kids. Yeah, he's great with kids. And most of the same reasons. And also, you know, I feel like he comes home from the office where he got booed all day. And I feel like he's going to just give me a really good hug. So you feel like you can be there for him? Yeah.
00:08:36
Speaker
Yeah, I think I'm going to be there for Roman. He's got kind eyes. I feel like by the end of this, you know, we're going to we're going to be pretty close. But I mean, we're also married. So I also feel like it's important for for background purposes. During Starcast weekend, you were dealing with what was it? Rough shoulder, rough neck. I couldn't move my neck.
00:08:54
Speaker
Yeah. So you kept saying that you wanted Kevin Nash and his big meaty mitts to give you a massage. That is a quote. Meaty mitts. Reign seems like a guy who's got meaty mitts too. So anytime you've got a sore neck or shoulder, he seems like a guy that you give you a nice massage. You don't think he's one of those guys that's going to start giving me the massage and we're watching TV and then
00:09:19
Speaker
his attention slowly starts to drift towards the TV and the rubbing starts to become more uneven and then he just quits and thinks that I didn't notice because I'm also watching TV. Clearly you've thought about this more than I have. I just thought it would give a decent massage.
00:09:37
Speaker
I'm glad that his attention span is something you're worried about. Well, he's got a lot going on. He needs something to escape to.
Reigns' Hair & Marriage Practicalities
00:09:43
Speaker
He's got a lot going on. And that's why you're going to have a secure future being married to him. And that's, yeah, me and him, we're going to sit down. We're going to watch Chrisley knows best. We're going to have a great time. We laugh every time he says Gucci cutters was, was, was picking Roman for the person you had married did at any point in that selection. Were you concerned about his hair?
00:10:04
Speaker
because to me that was that was the one thing that got me like hell I was like ah I'm probably gonna have to like share a bed with this guy if we're married and he's perpetually wet right he's just gonna get the goddamn sheets wet every fucking night when he comes to bed because that's his superpower yeah no shampoo all conditioner
00:10:24
Speaker
And he'll, every day he insists to you, like, no, it's all about the conditioner. I don't use shampoo. It's like, well, it smells, man. If we're gonna be sharing this bed and I have to be, you know. I betcha he does smell good, though. He looks like he smells good. He looks like he, uh, hopefully he's wearing that Bullet Club cologne. Yeah. Okay, who you got next? You're gonna marry Roman. So the next option you have to select from is fuck.
00:10:52
Speaker
Who am I going to be making sweet passionate love to from the shield? And you're only left with two options at this point. I think I could confuse a lot. If the rules to this game were different, I would probably just pick Roman for all three to make everybody happy. Like, Roman fans would be happy because I, you know, married the guy and taking care of him. The, I don't know.
00:11:13
Speaker
People would be having a section of the internet would be excited to see you make love to this man, right? Right if I mean if I could if we could play the game that way I would just pick Roman for all three just to fuck with everybody but uh I have to pick somebody to fuck and I have decided
00:11:30
Speaker
I have decided that I'm going to fuck Seth Rollins. Okay, we've switched things up. You and I differ here, so go ahead. The most important part in this selection was that I couldn't pick Roman for this.
00:11:45
Speaker
I couldn't, because I'm afraid that if I'm fucking Roman, he's gonna do that ooh-ah thing that he does right before he spears somebody. And that seems like it's traumatizing. If you will, his finisher. Yeah, no. You know when it's gonna end. Yeah. And just like in the ring, it's not quite satisfying. So that's important to me, is not having that happen to me. The other thing is, Dean seems like somebody who,
00:12:11
Speaker
Like I think a lot of people's instinct would be, well, go fuck Dean because he's a wild boy. That's exactly why I don't want to fuck Dean. I don't know what I'm getting myself into. I don't know where he's going to put a finger. I don't know what kind of crazy shit he's going to do if he's going to sweat on me, if he's going to glare at me with those scary ass eyes of his.
00:12:33
Speaker
I just don't know and now that he's muscular like there's this I don't whatever whatever he's a he's a beefy dude now and he just doesn't seem like a safe bet for me I don't want to be doing this regardless you're right at some point you're gonna be going out to a nice dinner and he's gonna say I don't care where we go eat but I'm not wearing sleeves but that's if I'm no I don't have to go out I'm just just fucking him
00:12:56
Speaker
He's not
Sex, Kill Decision: Rollins & Ambrose
00:12:57
Speaker
gonna, this is just a booty call. Yes. This is just- I hope. I'm committed to Roman, if you recall. I go out on dates with Roman because we're married. It sounds like you're fucking breaking up the shield, my man. Whatever. Okay. I would be happy as fuck to break up the shield because it would fix things on Raw. I'll tell you that much. That's my take.
00:13:20
Speaker
Um, we're not here to complain about raw. We're here to fuck wrestlers. If you weren't here to complain about raw, why did you start the fucking show talking about raw? Knowing God damn well that it wasn't. I don't give a shit. Somebody enjoyed it. It's fine. I bet they did. I bet they did. Yeah. Yeah. Whatever. It's not the bullet club.
00:13:40
Speaker
fuck it I'm taking a drink of water okay I haven't even I haven't even gotten into why I want to fuck Dean yet okay I don't want to fuck Dean okay sorry okay I don't want to fuck Dean I don't want to fuck Dean he's a little too crazy for my taste I think it'll be traumatizing I think he'll do some shit that I'm not ready for and I think he'll make some weird noises and some faces
00:14:01
Speaker
Seth seems like somebody you could take home to mom and dad. He's a Midwestern boy from Iowa. He's got some handsome good looks. And he does that CrossFit Jesus shit. So he probably has some crazy positions and shit that he knows about. Like he seems like he's probably a good fuck. I don't know.
00:14:22
Speaker
but it doesn't seem like he would do anything crazy to me. He would just know some kama sutra and whatever. Seth seems like my pick and obviously I'm gonna kill Dean because Dean is actually the member of the show that I like the most. Dean's listening to this and he heard you say you're gonna kill him and I bet he out loud said, good luck.
00:14:47
Speaker
It's just messed up because the nature of this game, the member of the shield I enjoy most is the guy I have to kill.
00:14:56
Speaker
See, I think we're a little opposite on these ones because for me, I like the excitement of Dean. I am a... You wanna thumb jammed up your ass. Well, okay, let's go ahead and put this in terms of the movie Twilight. I'm Bella, and I'm not ready for the dangerousness that is Dean Ambrose.
00:15:18
Speaker
The whole time he's gonna say like, I'm not good for you, Garrett, I'm too dangerous. And I'm like, he's your Edward Cullen? Oh, he's my Edward Cullen, man. He's glittering, he's got that kendo stick, and god damn it if he doesn't eat people sometimes. But he is gonna take me to the worst bar I've ever been to, and he is gonna just deflower me in the bathroom.
00:15:42
Speaker
He's gonna pull you into a dive bar in Cincinnati and just have his way with you. And you're gonna love it because you're into some crazy shit. And if you're wondering why kill Seth? Because obviously of those three, the best wrestler. Everybody loves Seth. I love Seth, but here's the problem. Everyone's gonna hate you for killing the best wrestler out of that group. I know, but here's the problem. I've already seen his penis. There's no mystique.
00:16:10
Speaker
So you're upset like you're not looking at saying his penis is a plus and going well, we could work with that Yeah, I know but it's it's saying like I know exactly what I'm gonna get with him. I have no sheet I have no clue what's gonna happen with Dean No, and I'm working with that's the thing I have on you. He's like, yeah, I'm not circumcised That's Dean Ambrose's voice in my head I'm wagging his tongue at you
00:16:37
Speaker
This is a weird opening to the show. Lauren, you have succeeded in just really, I hope, you know what? Take a note from Lauren, everybody. This is what I want. Hit me with some weird- This is exactly what we need. And quite frankly, I wouldn't have any issues with doing this every week.
00:16:57
Speaker
But I wanna know who you guys have in The Shield. Tweet at us. We're at WrestleHangout on Twitter. Let us know. Lauren, what were your options? She also gave us women on this and that made me more uncomfortable. Don't wanna objectify
Discomfort with Objectifying Wrestlers
00:17:11
Speaker
them. I have no issue objectifying. I have no problem objectifying fucking Dean Ambrose. I have no issue objectifying Dean Ambrose. But you will not put sweet sweet Renee Young into this mix because I will not play.
00:17:27
Speaker
You already have an answer in your head if you pair it with two other people. I know you. I'm gonna marry Renee. She's a fucking saint. And at this point- The problem is, she's in a relationship with somebody that you're fucking.
00:17:42
Speaker
That's true. That's true. There's going to be problems, but also there's going to be problems with Roman. There's just, uh, this is overall just a problematic game. So when the shield breaks up here in a few weeks, you can thank predetermined to pro wrestling hangout for ending the shield and suplex and stilettos. She said, I bet Roman said that he's the only guy out of this whole thing that didn't get fucked.
Impact of Game on The Shield
00:18:05
Speaker
Well, I feel like he's the main event and he's the only guy who's not, you know, getting laid.
00:18:11
Speaker
But you know, maybe over time. We're married. You should take one for the team and change one of your answers. I'm not changing it, man. I thought long and hard about this and I gave you my honest answer. For the sake of Renee, I thought you cared about Renee. Change your answer. Mary, Dean, and fuck Roman.
00:18:28
Speaker
you know I hope I hope there's a new listener who's gotten to this point in the episode and then they go I'm done I gave it a chance you're like I gave it a try I can weird I saw the reviews they they spent the first 15 minutes playing Mary fucker kill
00:18:45
Speaker
But hey, listener request had to do it. Contractually obligated. I thought it was a thrill. I hope there's more to come. Thank you for the submission. Guys, leave us the five stars. Give us the request. Tell us what you want us to talk about. That was fun. More to come, please. I want to do that forever and always.
00:19:07
Speaker
But yeah, if you want to do matches, that's fine too. I'll talk about a serious match if you truly need me to do it. I got it in my heart. But, you know, I like nonsense a lot more. I think nonsense fits the theme of the show quite a bit more. Do you realize, guys, that this is your opportunity to make this man watch Total Divas?
00:19:28
Speaker
I wouldn't be surprised if you went and made a fake account to make that happen. I guess I can't say nobody. Very few people listening to this podcast give it shit about Total Divas. This is where I think you're wrong, motherfucker. Well, this is their opportunity to fuckin' prove it, motherfucker. I think you're right, though. I feel like I'm gonna be alone over here with all my wrestling reality shows. Maybe Miss and Misses, which I have enjoyed.
00:19:55
Speaker
It's wonderful. Let's get into this shit. This is going to be the end of our all-in episodes. We have a little bit left to give you from Starcast, so we want to talk a little bit about what happened at Starcast and play you some clips that we recorded. This is the clip show version, if this were a sitcom.
00:20:16
Speaker
But don't think that it's all clips and you should change the channel because I always turn that shit off. Leave this one on. Why would they change the channel for our clips? The clips may be the best part. That's true. It's not like clips you've already heard, like when you watch a clip show on a sitcom. We did interviews at a wrestling convention. There's some good stuff in here.
00:20:38
Speaker
Well, where do we start with Starcast? This was just a... I know we talked a little bit about it here and there throughout this whole experience and through the live show, but now that... I think it's important to kind of address the elephant in the room. This is what I think. Starcast ran from Thursday to Sunday. We really don't have any stories from Sunday because we didn't go. So we'll start with Thursday. Too busy staying up late at Buffalo Wild Wings.
00:21:08
Speaker
We ate at B-dubs two nights in a row. We'll talk more about that later. Thursday we rolled in what? Like a little before dinner time? Like what'd you say, Eric? Five? So we roll into Starcast at the Hyatt Regency in Shamburg. We keep plugging it like they're gonna give us money or something. Give me a free room in Shamburg. Please. If anybody at the Hyatt Regency in Shamburg.
00:21:30
Speaker
Here's this podcast and has some pull. Come on, hook us up for no reason at all. Just give Garrett and I a hotel room to podcast from for a night and Mary Fucker kill the shield all in your hotel room. It's gonna get messy. It's getting wild.
00:21:46
Speaker
Oh, I guess I guess that guy that I keep doing is like if Dean Ambrose were a morning drive time DJ. Hey, what's going on? It's a lunatic fringe coming at you live from Cincinnati. So we roll in Thursday and really our primary goal was we wanted to get we wanted to get our lanyards that, you know, had our I.D. on them. And we kind of wanted to get to feel what the place was going to be like because we were on podcast for the next morning.
00:22:15
Speaker
We didn't know what the setup was going to be. We didn't know who we needed to talk to. We didn't know where everything was going to be set up. And so we get in there Thursday night and we find out that they aren't really ready to receive us because it's already a madhouse. And the guy in charge, Dave, getting he's getting called out right now. It's getting wild. Get the high reason she Schomburg. That's going to keep coming back. Is that the new Shane having a hard time breathing?
00:22:43
Speaker
Nah. Nah, it'll come up naturally when it needs to. Yeah. Anyways. Yeah. No, I mean, you can take over from here, but like we kind of came in there knowing that they had never done anything like this before and that it may be a little disorganized. It may be a little bit of a shit show at times, but it took us a while to get our, to get our lanyards. Uh, so I mean, during that though, we just walked around the lobby for a couple hours where I feel like your head was going to explode there for a minute.
00:23:11
Speaker
I think we've talked about it enough. It is wild that you simultaneously get used to it and don't get used to it to where you're walking around a hotel and you're seeing like not just people that you love from pro wrestling, but just fucking people that you don't think to think of.
00:23:30
Speaker
Disguise, women and men from the realm of pro wrestling that don't come to your mind necessarily every day, but then all of a sudden, oh, holy shit, there's Teddy Long. And that kind of stuff happened the entire weekend, where you're hanging out, you're minding your own business, you peek up and all of a sudden, I think I even locked up when Pharaoh walked into the building, stuff like that.
00:23:57
Speaker
Pharaoh's a handsome dog, man. It's okay to be starstruck by an animal. But okay, so Thursday was really the only day we got to go enjoy any of the panels or any of the events, because Friday we were working the whole time. Correct. So what'd we go see? We went to see Marty Skirrell's karaoke.
00:24:17
Speaker
So we got to actually hear Marty Skerl sing Cold of Personality. We got to hear Marty Skerl sing a bunch of things. And I loved that he would like invite whoever he wanted up on stage to sing their song. And he kind of only halfway gave a shit. Like he would let them start singing. Then he would kind of peace out and go do something else. And then he would come back in towards the end to kind of rib on them.
00:24:39
Speaker
I got the vibe from some of these events that they were like, I didn't know we were going to do this. I wish I wish we had less to do this weekend. Yeah, because then it's already opening night and they're already throwing stuff at these guys. So. Oh, and they have the whole bullet club up there at first with him. And then eventually everyone just abandons him and he's up there by himself. So one of the first people that end up, you know, requesting to sing with him is Simon from what culture?
00:25:05
Speaker
That was sort of, that's a perfect example of what I mean when people, like figures from the wrestling community. Like this is a guy that I watch on YouTube all the time. I'm a big depth, like what culture guy and seeing Simon that on its own is like, Oh shit. That guy I see in videos all the time is now standing in front of me. Oh, and he's up there with Marty squirrel. Marty immediately abandoned him.
00:25:26
Speaker
Yep, and he had to sing Wake Me Up Before You Go Go all by himself. And I asked him later in the day, because our table was just down the way from what cultures I said, is Wake Me Up Before You Go Go a little longer than you remembered it being? I feel like that's the, any time you go up for karaoke and you think you know a song, you realize like fuck, they repeat the chorus like 12 times at the end. Oh yeah. You gotta, if you're picking something for karaoke, you might want to get something that's only a couple minutes long.
00:25:53
Speaker
But fuck, I recorded some video of him singing Avril Lavigne. Why'd you have to go and make things so complicated? He had somebody in the crowd with a 205 live belt, and they tried to get him to throw it in a trash can, and he refused. That was interesting. That was interesting. It was interesting. I can't remember what the guy's name was, but he was extremely comfortable being a dick to Marty. Oh, you mean he was definitely not Starstruck. Yeah. Even more surprised.
00:26:24
Speaker
A high school kid was not starstruck. I was timid as shit in high school. I would have never yelled at Marty Skirrell. He gave Marty the finger as he walked off stage, if I recall. That sounds about right. Yeah. So I think, though, the highlight of this night was we ended the night by going to Batchemania Live.
00:26:47
Speaker
Correct. That was kind of how we ended Thursday night. And this was a weird thing. I mean, I haven't listened to Tony Chavani's podcast. I guess he curses a lot on that one. Was not prepared for that. Was not prepared to hear Tony Chavani talk about his dick.
00:27:02
Speaker
I had heard Shabani in a lot of interviews over the last few years, so I knew he was way more comfortable and not constrained by being on Turner Television, so I knew he could let loose a little bit. I knew he, he was the voice of, I wanna say like the Toledo Mudhins. He was the voice of like a minor league, radio voice of like a minor league baseball team. Okay, I was waiting for you to fill in the blank on what the fuck that was. What was? The Toledo Mudhins. Oh, that's a, yeah, it's a minor league baseball team. They're one of the more popular minor league baseball teams, just because of their name.
00:27:33
Speaker
But, uh, yeah, it was, they had a panel, uh, for Batcha mania and the tent was not like attached. It wasn't inside the hotel. This event for Batcha mania was in a tent on the backside of the hotel that is like used for like receptions. And they had a big stage up front and who was on the panel. They had like Ron Funches, Tony Shabani, uh, Matthew from Batcha mania, who was obviously the host of the event since it was his event.
00:27:57
Speaker
Oh, and he was fucked up when he showed up. I guess he had flight problems and he had been awake for over 24 hours at that point. So I don't know if he was ready for Batchemania Live. And they had just made it seem like he had just gotten there and they were already putting him up on stage for this.
00:28:12
Speaker
One thing I did think so I guess they told him you cannot show anything WWE like it's not gonna happen and he ended up showing a clip of something else but had it superimposed to look like it was on the WWE Network and I could tell that he thought that was hilarious I saw from where we were standing on the side I could see somebody run outside and they rushed in with Jeff Jarrett Yeah
00:28:37
Speaker
There was definitely a tone of like, fuck, we're going to get sued. I told him not to do this. It seemed like things turned out interesting. What's interesting, though, is could they really have. I mean, just because it was started, was that because it was streaming on on fight? Yeah, because people had to pay to see it. Right. So I think that WWE logos or anything that appeared were. But they but they had I don't know how that works. Because he's a fan. Right.
00:29:06
Speaker
Like they can show WWE merchandise. They can show WWE toys and belts and all that stuff can appear on television. But the moment there's a screen on like, or something on a screen that has the WWE logo on it. Well, yeah, I guess because at that point, like if somebody's in the crowd wearing it, whatever, but if you show that that's deliberate. Yeah. I guess if he's part of the event that makes it, that makes it a no-no. But anyways, I was so happy you got to see one of my favorite botch clips, which is super dragon, super dragon at PWG.
00:29:35
Speaker
Yeah, that got a good response. But it was at this night, it was this night, partway through the show, like maybe right towards the end, Cody Rhodes, Brandy and Scorpio Sky all walked out on stage together. Yeah, that was a big surprise. Like you said, we could kind of see back behind the stage a little bit because we saw Jarrett hanging back there, but Cody dropping by in the middle of the botchomania set.
00:29:57
Speaker
people were pretty stoked to see that happen. And he told a story that ended up, the punchline of the story just lived throughout our entire weekend. And you know what, I'm gonna go ahead and play Cody's whole, what did he say, it was his favorite botch? It was a story about the worst match he ever had to keep in theme with botchomania. Okay, well let's go ahead and play that clip now and we'll talk after it.
00:30:23
Speaker
The worst match I ever had in my entire life is on SmackDown, and I was right for the match. I told Michael Ace, because he goes, what are you going to do out there? And it was really annoying, because he wanted me to tell him verbatim what we were going to do, and we were like a minute away from going out. So in a very braggadocious way, I said, we're going to fucking tear the house down. So I told him.
00:30:51
Speaker
So we go out, this is a pre-ES movement, Daniel Bryan and his self and the original Sankara, the one that screwed up all the time. All the time. And Ezekiel Jackson against myself, Ted DiBiase Jr. and Wade Barrett. So...
00:31:13
Speaker
At one point, Ezekiel Jackson is supposed to be the hero of this match. He's not even getting in until he gets that tag, that moment. He's going to be the hero of this city, basically. He's just going to light it up. But unfortunately, Ted DiBiase Jr. didn't kick out. Gabe Bryan comes in, shoots him to the corner, does the little drop kick in the corner. One, two, three.
00:31:44
Speaker
We're like four minutes into this match. It's a two-segment match. So I think, oh, I got a little experience at this moment. I'm going to make an audible. I look to tell Wade, well, let's just jump him. That's what I'm going to tell him. But as I turn, Wade is already up the ramp. He's furious.
00:32:15
Speaker
So, okay, well, then what do you do? You do the whole, it's all right. You go to the backstage area embarrassed and it wasn't me, you know, it was Ted. But I will never forget for the rest of my life what happened next because we come into the grill area and there is Vince standing up, headset off.
00:32:44
Speaker
And I make eye contact with him. Again, it wasn't my fault. And right before you can say anything to me, Ted Jr. blows by me. No fear. Looks at Vince and says, where is that referee? He was trying to fuck on me.
00:33:18
Speaker
And because it was such an awkward, unbelievable moment, and an incorrect use of the F-word, and everything that goes into it, Vince just real slowly put his headset back on, struck out, and we never talked about the worst match that happened in the world.
00:33:48
Speaker
Are you guys having a good time? Is everybody coming on Saturday? You guys know we're going to make history, right? Enjoy the rest of the show. I just wanted to come say hi. Have fun. Give it up for these guys.
00:34:14
Speaker
Jesus Christ. That rep tried to fuck on me. That became a quote that we kept using. I'm still using it, by the way. I used it the whole weekend, but I can't get it out of my head. I actually used it. Where is that referee? He was trying to fuck on me.
00:34:39
Speaker
But you know what? They had showed a clip. What was it? It was Drew Galloway and Johnny Gargano against some tag team. Yeah, I think it was in Evolve.
00:34:50
Speaker
yeah it was an evolve and there was a botch where the referee just refused to end a match like on a submission like he just refused to ring the bell for whatever reason and then they ended up like doing it again they showed the clip to cody and the theme cody came away with was uh the ref's always right guys like you gotta go with your ref you gotta respect your officials but
00:35:10
Speaker
Fucking love the story that he told it got a huge response. We have the video saved We may post that up on our social media later today But uh, yeah great great dropping by Cody great way to kind of end Thursday Then I guess Friday was the the big day we got to meet Meet so many people that day just sitting in one spot and letting them come straight to us. I
00:35:35
Speaker
Yeah, I remember being waking up on Friday and I was ready to go because this was, I mean, this was the thing that we were there for. Well, I mean, obviously we were there, you know, that weekend for all in, but this was the day for us to kind of get the predetermined pro wrestling hangout name out there to people mingle. Uh, we were given away two tickets to all in. That was the other thing. Uh, we, I guess we got to give another shout out to Jace. Don't you think?
00:35:58
Speaker
Yeah, so I don't think everybody knows this. We posted about it a little bit on social media. Jace Green, our winner of the contest we had a month or two ago, he ended up not being able to go last minute. And he was nice enough to give us the tickets back so we could do it again. So we had the Jace Green Memorial Second Chance drawing.
00:36:20
Speaker
So we had a list, you know, set up at our table there, which is like right. We were like right next to the entrance in the lobby and we were there like we've already talked about this, but we were there from the like, you know, pretty early in the morning and we were the last podcast row podcast at the end of the day. We were the last people there.
00:36:40
Speaker
We stuck that thing out all day, met a ton of people. So if you're one of the people that came up to us on Friday, thanks for stopping by. We hope you got a button and a sticker, maybe a business card. And yeah, we set up shop all day. I don't think, at this point, we still didn't know how it was gonna work. We didn't know how they would be feeding us interviews, how many we would get, who we would get. We had submitted a top 10 list, which was a request for if they had people they could send their way, here's who we would prefer.
00:37:09
Speaker
But that kind of went out the window immediately, wouldn't you say? Oh, that was never going to happen. That was it was basically. Well, you know what? I will say this. They did a good job of bringing us people on Friday. But but it was kind of kind of be just whoever they could get to come down the row at that time. We were not going to get that sweet, sweet Macaulay Culkin interview that I waited my whole life for.
00:37:34
Speaker
I do think that was the thing that if, if I had to give a negative review of anything from the weekend, they had really sold it to everyone on podcast road that like, okay, everyone that we say featured at podcast road, you, you may have a chance at interviewing, but that wasn't the case. Um, you weren't going to get to interview Kenny Omega. You weren't going to get to interview Cody or the bucks, but that's okay. Uh, there was still plenty of people there that we would have, you know, loved to have had the opportunity to interview and did interview.
00:38:02
Speaker
I will say this, just sorry, going back to Macaulay for a second. Tight security. Yeah, Macaulay had some tight security, didn't he? I go downstairs, I'm just trying to walk around, so there's a basement area that has kind of the vendor area where you can buy shit. I'm walking around, minding my own business, get a little push from a security guard. Stay away, stay away from what? Macaulay Culkin, oh shit. So that's what happened. I did see him, he did not.
00:38:32
Speaker
Was it weird that he was the guy who had probably the tightest security? Like Kenny Omega, Abushi, Cody, none of these guys had security as tight as Macaulay Culkin did. Well, Abushi can kick your fucking head off. A lot of these guys could. Well, Abushi needs security just to keep that motherfucker in line because I guess they had issues with him disappearing at the airport and losing his wallet. Honestly, does that make you like him a little more? Does that make his character a little cuter?
00:39:00
Speaker
that he's a little careless or just like he gets lost easily? Yeah, I think that's a fun character trait. That's a for sure baby face trait. Like if you told me the same thing happened to Flip Gordon in Japan, I'd believe you. This is why he doesn't like to travel because he knows what's going to happen.
00:39:18
Speaker
But sincerely though, did you think that it was weird that Macaulay had the tightest security? That they were trying to keep people away from him desperately? People were not afraid to swarm people at this event. This one is kind of a weird one where all these wrestlers are at these tables all day charging money for pictures. But then the second you see them leaving the building, then people swarm them to try and get that free picture. And it was fun to see who allowed it and who didn't allow it.
00:39:47
Speaker
Yeah. Guy who allowed it? Janela. Guy who didn't? Cheeseburger. Yeah, that was bizarre. But I don't know. I guess of everyone there, he's probably the biggest actual celebrity. But at a wrestling convention? Yeah, maybe just if all things are being equal, if we're just out in public.
00:40:10
Speaker
Sure. But do you think that would be the guy to get people swarming around him? Like, fuck. I mean, like I saw Eric Bischoff and Scott Hall and Kevin Nash walking around with less security and those guys are fucking icons and for wrestling. But my mom wouldn't recognize them. My mom would know. Right. But to my point, your mom wouldn't be there.
00:40:31
Speaker
she might if she knew Macaulay Culkin was going to be there. I guess. I don't know. It was weird. I'm not mad or anything. It was just it was interesting to see who got away with what. And Macaulay wasn't prepared to deal with anybody's shit. He shut that down pretty quick. At the time that I got a little shoved from security, Macaulay Culkin was admiring the gobbledygooker. If you're wondering like what was going on.
00:40:55
Speaker
But, uh, so we set, we get there pretty early and, uh, we set up our, you know, our table where we're getting everything organized. And it's not too long after we get things hooked up that they, they kind of just approach us and they're like blue meanie in one minute. You guys ready? And we just kind of look at each other and we're like, yeah.
00:41:14
Speaker
And then I look at you and I'm like, Derek, you gotta ask all the questions. Like, I know. I was like, way to come prepared, bud. Hey, you handled it for me. That's why we're buddies. You had my back and I appreciate it. I have a problem taking over there. My one thing is, it was a great interview with Meany. We'll play that clip for you here in a minute.
00:41:36
Speaker
He was cool with us. He seemed like a guy that would fit right in with us. I could do this podcast every week with Blue Meanie. Guarantee you, he wouldn't make me fuck Seth Rollins. Hey, you know, you do the show with Meanie that he wants to do. And when you're over here, you get into some shenanigans. That's what's gonna happen. Blue Meanie was friendly, and he's got a podcast too. She used to check him out.
00:41:59
Speaker
But we only got a few minutes with him. Oh, it was brief. They told us five to 10 minutes. They basically took him away after two questions. Yeah, I don't know what the deal was there, but we do have a brief interview with Blue Mini. So Garrett, if you want to go ahead and insert the Blue Mini interview right here, go ahead. All right. Everybody, welcome to another episode of Predetermined to Pro Wrestling Hangout. I'm your host, Garrett Callender. With me, as always, Derek Halpin. And joining us today, very special guest, the Blue Mini.
00:42:28
Speaker
Say hello to the blue guy. How you doing guys? Hey awesome. This is an honor to have you here You're very kind ECW and WWE legend If I'm a legend You're a legend you're gonna make me blush I'm gonna go from blue to purple
00:42:50
Speaker
So, hey, nice meeting you. Oh, thanks for having me. You are our first official big guest. Oh, well, you know, I'm a size 56 waist, so I guess I would... Oh, oh, like, like stature. Oh, I can't twist. I'm beat up. So, great to have you here. What's this like for you? Like, is this something that you foresaw happening, like this kind of event, like 10 years ago?
00:43:15
Speaker
for independent wrestling? Yeah. Not really. I mean, I guess the closest thing would be like ECW back in the day. Right. With when we had CyberSlam and stuff like that. But this is truly an independent event of any company, any promotion. I had said this before, like the first ever WWE, well, first wrestling pay-per-view ever was the WWE Wrestling Classic, which was held here in Chicago.
00:43:42
Speaker
Flash forward all these years later and you're having a very first independently run wrestling event slash pay-per-view on Fight TV with All In. Everything comes full circle kind of thing. And then you pair it with Starcast and you have this beautiful, beautiful event where people, very like-minded people are hanging out and sharing the thing they love.
00:44:07
Speaker
Yeah, so I got to ask a question here. Please, that's why I'm here. Who came up with the concept for the Blue World Order? Loosely, it was myself. We had been doing podcasts. I mean, yeah, podcasts. We've been doing parodies. It's early. Of just different wrestling personalities. And it was just a natural evolution. I know it was the biggest thing in the business at the time. And I was talking to Al Snow once.
00:44:34
Speaker
I was like, yeah, man, we're doing parodies. You know, we should do the N.W.O. You know, we could be the B.W.O. instead of the, you know, the bad guy could be the blue guy. And Al popped for it. And, you know, me and Al, you know, he's like my comedy soulmate. So, like, if he pops where I go, maybe I'm on to something, because he's the ultimate cynic, too. If he thinks it's bad, he'll shoot it down right away.
00:44:57
Speaker
So he hung on to it, so I was like, oh, cool. And then I pitched it to Raven and Stevie. They pitched it on up to Paul. And it's a matter of who played who. We're like, who's going to be Virgil? I was like, no, we don't need Virgil. We got Hall, Nash, and Hogan. You should go get Virgil now. I think he would take the job. Yeah.
00:45:21
Speaker
Yeah. Well, I guess thanks for stopping in with us. Before you go, do you want to get a sound bite real quick for them? Oh, yeah. Would you mind if people know they're listening to pre-determined to pro wrestling hangout? Hey, folks, this is ECW Original and for WWE Superstar at the Blue Mini. And you're listening to pre-determined, a pro wrestling hangout. Please listen or they're going to kidnap me and take me away and you'll never see me again. Help! Help! Help!
00:45:50
Speaker
So anyways, that was our interview with Blue Mini. Very brief. Now I was excited about the next one though. This was a little bit later. They came through with, and they basically walked over and were like, do you know who Jeff Cobb is? And I was like, fuck yeah, I do. Get him over here.
00:46:11
Speaker
Big Jeff Cobb fan. I think I was glad we got some more time with Jeff Cobb. Another guy. He was really cool with us. I'm used to seeing him. I'm used to seeing him portray such a badass and a brute when he's when he's wrestling and then he just kind of he was pretty chill with us. Oh he's a guy that I after that I wish we could have gone and eaten some snacks together.
00:46:32
Speaker
Yeah, he said I don't want to be here with him. I want to go to a I want to go to the junk food aisle and see what junk food cobs going after. Is it weird that we we had a pretty good rapport with like an Olympian? It's the first time I've ever had any rapport with an Olympian. Yeah. Until we interviewed Kurt Angle, which we're destined to do. And maybe Rousey. Then Michael then Michael Jordan was Mark Henry an Olympian. I think he was. He feels like he would be. I think he was.
00:47:03
Speaker
It seems important. Either way, we told you a little bit about Cobb. Here's the interview with Jeff Cobb. Take it away, Jeff.
00:47:16
Speaker
with doing this, like it does feel kind of like Wayne's world, but it could easily just turn into Chris Farley on Saturday. I'm like, remember that time that was awesome. Remember that time? Yeah, Chris Farley was awesome. So how's your weekend going, man? This is crazy. Like, independent wrestling is kind of the king of Chicago this weekend. Yeah, it's great to have something like this. I mean, WrestleCon is like, don't get me wrong, WrestleCon is amazing. But then to have another
00:47:45
Speaker
something similar to it that's because of quote-unquote independent guys like Cody and the Young Bucks doing it it's it's amazing like pro wrestling can do big things if done right. Oh for sure and I mean like just seeing what you guys do down in PWG and then I mean Ring of Honor everything. We just saw you a few months ago at AAW here in Chicago. Were you doing that last night?
00:48:11
Speaker
I did. We did a AAW show last night, sold out. It was wonderful. Amazing fans, as always, from the Chicago area. And then, yeah, I was down in Atlanta the other day and saw you make a debut in Ring of Honor. That was me as well. That was... Oh, sorry. Yeah, that... You weren't treating people too nice down there. No. Well, because they have this...
00:48:36
Speaker
quote-unquote top prospect tournament, and I feel like I am the top prospect. I believe that. Yeah. I'm not going to argue with you right here. I was very upset that I wasn't invited to participate in that tournament, so I'd say, you know what? I'm going to make my own splash, if you will. How many people have Olympic experience in this top prospect tournament? Hold on. Zero. Yes. Zero. None.
00:49:03
Speaker
On a side note, Buffalo Wild Wings is right across. And I love Buffalo Wild Wings. I choose them over Hooters. You're a beat-ups guy? Yeah. The wings are that much better. I think the wings are better at Buffalo Wild Wings. Well, see, I actually, when I was in LA, if you're ever in Burbank, I'd go to that Hooters because they would put on wrestling for me. OK, well then, you know what? That was the only reason I went to do that. There's exceptions to be made. OK, Hooters, don't get mad at me. Don't spit in my feet.
00:49:30
Speaker
You're going to be in a situation where you need Hooter's help at some point. They're going to be like, oh, no. We listen to you on this little wrestling podcast. To be fair, they're like, well, they won't recognize me coming in anyways. They're like, oh, Samoa Joe. They're like, no, wait a minute. I've done that a few times, by the way. I am not Samoa Joe. I'm not Samoan. If I was, I'd be a lot taller.
00:49:53
Speaker
So, are you doing Bola this year? I am doing Bola. Bola. Oh, I'll be there. Oh, I'm right now knowing that you're here. Top pick. Oh, I picked a win. Oh, man, we need to go to Vegas for that. I mean, last year we got to watch you and Keith Lee just play catch with Ricochet.
00:50:14
Speaker
Yeah, I was a last year. I made the finals. OK, so last year, the it was in the city, the city building. That was one of the most roughest weekends of my life. So we did eight. We had a W that Friday or Thursday. Then we did Friday as myself and Matt Riddle against Keith Lee and Donovan Dijak.
00:50:34
Speaker
Three of the four guys are in WWE by the way, what the heck? And then the Bola tournament and then three matches in one night was rough. I was sweating, I got sick for the whole month of September because of that. That's brutal. But now we're in the new, I think it's the globe. The globe, yeah. And there's air conditioning. It's wonderful.
00:50:55
Speaker
You know, I hope Legion Larry still stops by to say hi, but you need to make a cameo. He needs at least a little cameo, but I am not going to be mad about air conditioning that always. It's awesome. I love it. I love it. You guys grabbing water from fans during those matches. I don't do that because I know the fans pay their hard earned money for the water. And I don't want to be that guy. You don't want the Mark Water? No, I walked down the street 7-Eleven by a gallon. Yeah. Yeah. Perfect. But so.
00:51:22
Speaker
On a weekend like that, I mean, how do you prepare to do that many matches in a row? The indie schedule seems fucking nuts. It can be if you make it that way. Well, right. You kind of get to make your schedule. Yeah. Like September, I think I have like.
00:51:37
Speaker
19 shows So but again, that's because I made it right. I mean the opportunity for work is there. Yeah Yeah, it's a blind demand not many people demand me, but I make it I make a good point Hey, we're seeing you in ring of honor. We've seen you in New Japan. You're in demand. You're getting you know, I'm enjoying it. I'm enjoying it. Thank you
00:52:00
Speaker
Do you have any more shows in Chicago this weekend? Well, tonight I will be at AAW at Logan Square again for night two of AAW. OK, nice, nice. And then I will be here at Starcast, 12 to 2, so make sure you come find me. I don't know if my name's on anything, but it's if you come in through the doors and you go downstairs, I'm in that area. All right, OK. The downstairs one. So I was like, I know Brutus Beefcake's in there, Sergeant Slatter's in there. It's where the tattoos are getting done.
00:52:29
Speaker
Oh, we had a friend go grab a tattoo. So if you're going to get a tattoo, you stop by me before you get to the. Gotcha. OK, so go meet you. Grab a tattoo. Yeah. Well, meet me, buy some stuff and then go to the tattoo. Yeah. Got to get the chosen one or the Hawaiian strong style shirt. I didn't bring that with me, unfortunately. But I got a couple of other ones. Ring of Aloha. My ring of honor. We're in. We're in. OK. Wait. Are you telling me to cut it?
00:52:55
Speaker
Keep going. We can keep going for a little bit more. Let's keep going. Okay, but yeah, so I will have four different t-shirts come on by. I will have eight by tens. I will have my action figure. It's not... You got an action figure? Yeah, a figures toy company. If you go downstairs... Yeah, there's a display there. All the independent superstars are on there, but my figure's not there. It just got released like two weeks ago.
00:53:21
Speaker
How does that feel? It's wonderful. Is that like a life achievement moment where you're like? Well, I almost retired. I almost retired after I was like, I have an action figure. I'm done. I mean, have you had your action figure interact with any of your childhood figures yet?
00:53:36
Speaker
Not yet, because I keep mine all in the package. I don't take it out. Are you still a collector? So recently, now that I have a bigger house in Vegas, I have a room that's an office slash merchandise room. And on the wall, I have action figures of people I've wrestled. Yes. It's like a collection? Yes. So I have that. And then I make them sign it. Oh, my god. And it goes on my wall.
00:54:05
Speaker
That is incredible. First of all, that's just a great idea because it's a visual representation of the body of work you've done. Yeah. Now, it's kind of hard because there's a couple of guys that I haven't had the chance to purchase figures yet for, and I'm very picky on which figure I want. I don't want just the generic, for example, like when I were Russell Ray Mysterio Jr., I don't want a Ray Mysterio
00:54:27
Speaker
Yeah, throwaway figure. I want the nice, the legends. The Elite series or whatever. The Elite, the WrestleMania moment things. I can't find them. They're just like $150 online. Yeah.
00:54:42
Speaker
Yeah. This makes me feel like now I need to start getting figures of the people we interview. That's a great idea. But my wife does not allow the wrestling stuff in the house. Oh, OK. Well, she said him. If you want to start that and put it in a box in the pan down by the river, you can start with my figure tomorrow at between 12 and two. You can come down.
00:55:01
Speaker
Leah's listening to this. She's like, oh, god, Jeff Cobb just endorsed my husband buying toys. Hey, she's not toys. It's action. Exactly. There's like 39 points of articulation on that thing. I really don't know. It's an action figure of an Olympian. She can't be mad. Good point. Yeah, that's that's this is a great idea. Now you're going to have a wall in your house of just everybody we've interviewed. Yeah. I hope we can get a Ron Funches action figure.
00:55:32
Speaker
Sure you just make one. Yeah. Well, I'm trying to get one of the Funko Pops design our own there. Yeah. Same thing. Yeah, something. All right. Well, thank you for sitting in with us. My pleasure. Hey, would you mind doing a sound bite for us real quick? Sure. Just plug in the podcast? Yeah. Hold on. Let me do my Casey Kayson voice. What's up, guys? This is Jeff Cobb, and you're listening to predetermine dot dot a pro wrestling hangout.
00:55:56
Speaker
I appreciate it. Thanks so much. What were some of the other interactions that we had? Like, you know, because I know occasionally I would wander off and I'd come back and be like, fucking Macho Man's brother just came and took some of our pens. So one of my favorite moments that I had from the entire weekend, I think it was you and Alex, Queen of the Ring.
00:56:18
Speaker
you guys had gone off to go see the way in late on Friday night and I kind of had to hold down fort at our table for what was that a little over an hour and as I stated earlier you'll see people come and go all day and one of the fun things was anytime SCU so Cal and censored walked anywhere
00:56:39
Speaker
You could just hear from every corner of the room that they walked in, people recognizing them and going, I see you. And that happened the whole freaking weekend and they loved it and they responded to it. And so you guys are off doing the weigh-in and I'm sitting down at our table and they, they walk into the lobby door. They make a right. They turn in front of me and it's Christopher Daniel, Scorpio Sky, Frankie Kazarian, and they're headed. It looks like they're going off to another, to another signing and a photo op.
00:57:09
Speaker
And as they pass by me, I take my right index finger. And as I say SCU, I say it slowly and I spell it out with my finger. SCU. And Christopher Daniels stops and everyone stops with him and he doesn't look at me, but he saw it and he points at me and he goes, say it again. And then I say SCU. And he goes, there you go. And he takes off.
00:57:40
Speaker
God, it was I think surreal moments where you're interacting with these guys. Well, it's so funny because we were talking about earlier how a year ago couldn't you know, I thought they would have been on their way out or Daniels was on his way out walking around this place.
00:57:56
Speaker
I mean, Cody was the king of Chicago, but Daniels was just as much up there as most of those guys. Yeah, I think you can't overstate enough. I mean, as over as Cody and the Bucks and Kenny were, I mean, SCU was right there with them in popularity. And they had quite the line for their meet and greet and their photo-lop. So it was cool seeing them get the reaction that they did. It was cool seeing how over and how the reaction they got it all in, I think, kind of said it all. Oh, 100%.
00:58:27
Speaker
But you mentioned that happened while you were, or while I was at the weigh-in with Alex. And there, I don't know, I took a bunch of clips. Once again, I feel like the bucks went into nearly every meeting, just like, you know what I'm gonna do? I'm gonna give him a Remember the Titan speech, and everybody's gonna fucking cry.
00:58:48
Speaker
And it worked. Oh, all weekend. Everywhere they were, they're like, this couldn't have happened without you. You gotta believe in yourself all the every time. Just like, I can't believe it myself. I'm sure you had enjoyed yourself. Thank you all for coming here.
00:59:12
Speaker
This is a huge weekend and we are just very happy and proud to be a part of it and we are happy because this doesn't happen unless each and every one of you come here and support us and you guys are here and we want to thank you for that.
00:59:36
Speaker
I feel like there's this weird thing, it's a feeling, it's a movement, and I look out and there's not a single seat that is empty. I feel like there's a thirst, there's a hunger. I think it's time for some actual good professional wrestling. I think it's time for some great entertainment.
01:00:06
Speaker
My brother, myself, my cast of outlaw friends, we want to present to you our vision of what we think is professional wrestling.
01:00:22
Speaker
And when we announced that we were doing a show and we wanted to fill up 10,000 seats, there were a lot of people who doubted us. They said, you can't. You can't fill up 10,000 seats. That's impossible. You know the names that you would have to have on that show for that to happen? Guess what? We didn't need any of them.
01:00:47
Speaker
I remember getting locked out trying to buy a ticket myself on my phone. And I said, I think we sold this thing out. But Matt, people still doubted us. I saw some internet marks say, you know what? They need a thousand.
01:01:07
Speaker
They needed thousands and thousands of scalpers to help them fill 10,000 seats. I don't think there's any scalpers out here. Did you guys all buy your tickets in time? I'm sorry if you had to pay quadruple the price. Hey, and guess what? If there was any doubt after that, we put this thing on pay-per-view.
01:01:38
Speaker
So again, we're so thrilled. We're so happy. Just this weekend alone, I tweeted out that this is the biggest thing I could just feel it. This is the biggest show I've ever been a part of. There's a buzz in the air. I'm excited about professional wrestling. I feel like we're doing something new, something special, something that I think you'll be able to tell your grandkids. I was at the first All In.
01:02:01
Speaker
If there's gonna be another one, I don't know, I can't promise you that. I'll talk to you on September 2nd, but God, the way I feel right now, I wanna do like 50 more of these damn things. It's not getting carried away.
01:02:21
Speaker
So people have always said that you can't do this. You can't do that. You'll never get a t-shirt in retail stores. You can't do that. You're merely independent professional wrestlers. Then we got to deal with Hot Topic. They said you can't go get your own toy. You got to go work for the WWE for something cool like that to happen.
01:02:50
Speaker
And then I signed my first contract to have my own Funko Pop. And they said, you have to have a platform. You have to be on cable television every week for people to know who you are. You know what? Nick and I, we created our own platform. It's called Bean the Elite.
01:03:18
Speaker
So this is proof. This is actual statistic facts that if you want it bad enough, if you dream it big enough, if you stand tall, if you believe you can be elite, you can do absolutely anything. Because we're merely two white kids from Rancho Cucamonga, and look at what we have done.
01:03:44
Speaker
So tomorrow I ask you to march into the Sears Center. Let's make history. Let's party. Let's get loud. And let's have the time of our lives. Because you guys are all in. We're all in. They're all in. Our buddy Cody Rhodes is all in. The entire world is all in. Thank you.
01:04:31
Speaker
Yeah, I listened to the audio from The Way In because, like I said, I was holding down the fort. You and Queen of the Ring got to go to that. But you said that like it wasn't what you thought it was going to be, but there were still moments to it that were pretty exciting. Yeah, it was it wasn't a bad event by any means. But I mean, I think when you hear that there's a way in, you assume that every wrestler was going to be there to do a way in and have a little, you know, a little face off before the big show tomorrow.
01:05:02
Speaker
And basically they just had a way in with Aldous and Cody and nothing else. And then even when Marty went up, he even said, I didn't know this was happening.
01:05:17
Speaker
I guess that's wild for us because it feels like they were advertising every part of Starcast. Yeah, I guess they weren't as excited about it as we were in planning our schedules. Yeah, but it makes it pretty easy to see why they weren't able to just give us the interviews that we were requesting for podcast row.
01:05:34
Speaker
Oh, they oh, yeah, they did shit in this thing like where there were two people hosting it and at one point they're like, all right, well, we're going to open it up for. Oh, no. What did they do first? Britt Baker came out to represent the women's match. She was the only lady there and they she walks out and she's like, OK, questions and the whole the room, not an empty seat in the place. Everybody's looking at each other. Never announced that it was a Q&A. No one was prepared for it to be a Q&A. And now it's just awkward.
01:06:04
Speaker
Same thing happened where they were running late on something, and they just had the two hosts, and they're like, all right, the hosts are gonna take questions now. Didn't somebody ask the women about the WWE Evolution pay-per-view? They did, they asked Britt Baker what, that was actually the very first question was, what do you think about this? And she's like, I think it's great, I think anything with women in wrestling is great, but let's talk about All In.
01:06:26
Speaker
Right. So you didn't feel like there was good enough communication between, you know, the people running the event and the fans who were there to witness. They thought they were just witnessing away and it ended up being like a Q&A session a little bit. Yeah. And then, uh, let's see, one of the highlights though was during Marty's thing, just somebody came in through the back door. It was Penelope Ford and Joey Janela walks into the ballroom, smoking a cigarette, drinking a Bud Light.
01:06:53
Speaker
And he just curses up a storm. He is very, you know, he's a bad, bad boy. And he went up there and was a bad boy. And I think what happened was there was nothing going on. So they're like, fuck, what do we do? Send him up there, kill time. Don't be entertaining.
01:07:10
Speaker
Oh, he was. And then after him, Kenny came out and said, I'll be honest, I almost didn't make it here, which explained a lot of them trying to kill time as they didn't think Kenny Omega would make it. And he said, and after that profanity laden speech, there's no way we can end it on that. So I'm coming up here to say a few words. But wouldn't you say the highlight of the weigh in just from, from my perspective on it? I mean, I guess it makes sense now that we know how all in played out, but having hangman page.
01:07:40
Speaker
reveal before the entire audience that he was, in fact, the person who murdered Joey Ryan. Oh, that was one of the pops of the weekends. Yeah. Which you know what? Let's throw that clip in of a hangman admitting to murder. We got that recorded as well. Did you murder famous dick wrestler Joey Ryan?
01:07:58
Speaker
I don't know what evidence you're talking about. It's public footage. In Japan, security footage. Everybody saw it. That guy saw it. This guy saw it. Clearly not me. Clearly not me. This guy saw it. He's talking. You think I murdered him? You think I murdered him? You think that I murdered him? You think that I murdered him? You want to know something? I'll tell you. I'll tell you. Lay us. You want to know the truth? Bring it.
01:08:35
Speaker
If you want to know the truth, the truth is that I murdered Joey Ryan! I murdered him! I murdered him!
01:09:02
Speaker
As Mr. Page's attorney, let's strike that from the record. There's no comment at this time, and remember, if the boots do not fit, you must acquit.
01:09:28
Speaker
Yeah, just a cool moment, like something, you know, interesting that we got out of Starcast. But overall, I had a good experience with Starcast. I was very, very exhausted by the end of these three days that we did there. And you know what I'm so fucking ready for?
01:09:45
Speaker
You're ready for Bola, aren't you? Fuck yeah, I'm ready for Bola. Bola's this weekend. I'm heading there on, if you're listening to this the day it came out on Thursday, I'm already, I'm headed there on Friday. But I'm just ready to get back to talking about wrestling again. I feel like the last few episodes, you know, we just already had them done. We haven't gotten to talk as much. I'm ready to just get these out there and go back to what we're doing.
01:10:08
Speaker
So in other words, our routine comes back next week. No, no all in no star cast stuff, except for maybe the occasional anecdote that we may throw in and future episodes. But we're kind of wrapping up our star cast and all in coverage this week.
01:10:23
Speaker
So we hope you guys enjoyed the clips, the interviews, the audio. We had fun. I know that it was cool. We made some friends Saturday while we were hanging out there. We got to sit down with the Best There Ever Was podcast, which stars the curtain jerks. Curtain jerks, look them up. I'm actually wearing their shirt right now that they gave to us.
01:10:46
Speaker
They were nice boys. Yeah, they were nice boys. They did our podcast on Friday. We did their podcast on Saturday the next day and had good conversation with them. They should have that episode from us that we were on up soon, shouldn't they? Yeah, I believe they said that was going to be. They said they would tag us. Yeah, they said they'd let us know. So we'll share that with you guys when it comes out.
01:11:06
Speaker
We do have a couple things that are kind of exciting to announce. We're gonna actually start incorporating different pro wrestling correspondents for us. So I'm gonna be at bowl of this weekend with my buddy John. John is gonna be acting as our West Coast correspondent, giving us updates on the indie scene down in Southern California. So while I'm down there, I think I'll record like a little bit with him, just so you can get a little introduction to John, meet him before you start hearing some clips from him occasionally at the end of shows.
01:11:36
Speaker
And who else are we gonna be working with in the future? Metal Dave, you know him, you love him.
01:11:42
Speaker
We'd love him to. Metal Dave will become a somewhat regular character on our show. The response to the deathmatch episode was extremely positive. We think he was a part of that. And he's a good friend of the podcast. So Metal Dave, how's it going? Excited to have you on board. And also we have basically given Queen of the Ring an open invite. So when she wants to return to talk on the show, she's more than welcome anytime. I believe she's going to give us some updates occasionally from different shows on the East Coast as well.
01:12:12
Speaker
So we're covering Midwest, we're covering the East Coast, the West Coast, we got it all. You're gonna hear about all the different indie wrestlers that maybe you wouldn't have heard about before.
Canadian Correspondent & Friends
01:12:20
Speaker
We need to get a Canadian correspondent too. Lowell, what are you doing? Lowell, my friend Johnny, if you guys are listening to this, call us. Was that it, Derek? You say that pretty much wraps everything up?
01:12:36
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I would say that'd be it for this week. Are you sad that we're kind of wrapping up?
Wrapping Up: Starcast, All In & Future Events
01:12:41
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I mean, I know you're excited to go back to our routine and get some more work done, but I mean, we pretty much squeezed what we could out of star cast and all in and we're closing the book on that. How you feeling? You know what? I'm excited to move on because this was a big thing for pro wrestling and I'm excited to see where it goes. And I have to imagine there's going to be a lot of cool shit coming out, you know, here
Transition to Bola & Talent Excitement
01:13:02
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in the future.
01:13:02
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But it's nice that I get to hop straight out of all in, straight into Bola, one of my favorite times of the year. Gonna get to see Joey Janela again, gonna get to see Walter. And right now, PWGs going through some big changes. A lot of their guys are taken, they're over in WWE now, or they're in New Japan. So I'm gonna get to see a lot of guys I've never seen, and then also get to see some guys that you and I have seen participate in PWG, like DJZ.
01:13:29
Speaker
I'm a big fan of DJZ.
Jericho Cruise Curiosity
01:13:31
Speaker
Also, while we're wrapping this episode up, if anyone is listening to this podcast happens to be going on the Jericho cruise, which I believe is next month.
01:13:40
Speaker
We would love to hear from you because you and I had talked about a little bit. I'm thinking there may be a very similar vibe to how all in weekend was on the Jericho cruise and that you're trapped in a hotel like environment with a bunch of pro wrestlers. Um, I don't know anybody who's going, but if any of our listeners are going, let us know how it
Listener Feedback & Engagement
01:13:58
Speaker
goes. And also send in your, uh, your Mary fucker kill pics for, for Roman Dean and Seth. And if you have one for future episodes, I'd be interested in hearing what that is.
01:14:09
Speaker
Yes, once again, just please rate, review, subscribe. If you leave a five-star review for us, we will talk about whatever you want. It can be Mary, fuck, or kill. You can make me watch something. I don't care.
Episode Closing & Future Content
01:14:23
Speaker
Garrett, that about wraps her all up. That about does it. As sad as I am to end our time with star cast and all in, this is finally, you know, we're closing that book. It's done. And you know what you can do, Derek? What can we do? Hit our goddamn music.