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Thurs 12th Aug - Daily Tottenham x Arsenal Corssover Pod
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Today's crossover podcast is the crossover you've been waiting for! Scott from Daily Tottenham welcomes Josh Vince and Josh Duncan from the Daily Arsenal podcast to discuss Sunday's North London derby.
Have a view on the mighty Spurs? Contact us at @GSPNTottenham
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Transcript
Podcast Introduction
00:00:11
officialgspn
Okay, hello and welcome to the Daily Tottenham Podcast from the Daily Sports Podcast
Crossover Episode with Daily Arsenal
00:00:15
officialgspn
Network. And we're back after previewing the North London and Derby earlier in the week with the crossover pod episode everybody has been waiting for. I'm pleased, well, yeah, no, I am pleased to welcome Josh Vince and Josh Duncan from Daily Arsenal to the hostile feebrow atmosphere that is the Daily Tottenham Podcast. Hello, Josh's.
00:00:36
Josh Vince
and Hello Scott, we're we're happy to be here and
00:00:38
Josh D
I
00:00:39
officialgspn
no
Preview of the North London Derby
00:00:41
Josh Vince
we're ready for anything you've got.
00:00:41
officialgspn
Yeah, so happy. Okay, that is awesome. ah We'll be talking about everything to do with so Sundays, North London Derby, everything you might have to offer in a very civil and very respectful manner.
00:00:54
officialgspn
And we won't be delving into the histories of encroaching territories in 1910, treacherous former captains who moved to Arsenal, even when they promised not to. I haven't said his name in a few years, and I will continue to continue say that, or indeed poison lasagnas.
00:01:05
Josh D
don't
00:01:08
Josh D
that.
00:01:09
officialgspn
in the lead up to playing West Ham away. Remember you can have your say. It's ah at GSPN Tottenham on all social media. Right. um First of all, Josh Vince. Hello. How are you feeling gut feeling initial instincts about Sunday's game? Are you looking forward to it or is it a bit of a dreading the game scenario?
00:01:29
Josh Vince
Oh, I never look forward to the North London Derby. I'm always terrified of it. like As much as I am excited to punish Spurs for just existing, um I'm always nonetheless absolutely horrified that we'll slip up and embarrass ourselves and I'll just have to hide from the world for a few days and ah so you know hide my shame away.
00:01:52
officialgspn
Yeah, what about yourself Josh Duncan? Will you have to hide your shame away if Arsenal lose?
Arsenal's Challenges and Strategies
00:01:58
Josh D
100% I don't think I can show myself anywhere in London. I've probably got to meet the Manchester where Josh lives, you know what I mean?
00:02:03
officialgspn
i
00:02:04
Josh Vince
It's the one advantage of living in Manchester. On North London and Derby Day I don't get any grief of anyone.
00:02:09
officialgspn
but Yeah, you don't have to go to work.
00:02:09
Josh Vince
so
00:02:11
officialgspn
I remember being at school. I like grew up in like Finchley, North London, and like going to school then when when you lose. but I feel like Finchley is kind of mostly Arsenal territory. When Tottenham lost, then it was really, really dire stuff.
00:02:23
officialgspn
But to get into the game, Josh Duncan, um How will Arsenal midfield look? Because this is a big question ahead of the game.
00:02:32
officialgspn
Will Arsenal midfield, I mean there's no Rice, Rice is suspended in a very very very funny incident that I have replayed.
00:02:32
Josh Vince
Yeah.
00:02:38
Josh Vince
Buddy!
00:02:40
officialgspn
I've watched that maybe 12 or 13 times and when moment when I watched it with my dad he actually clutched his belly and laughed. It's good stuff. um And obviously, playing for Norway the other night, Odegard's got like a very nasty injury, it would seem, and there's been pictures on crutches.
00:02:57
officialgspn
um So how is the midfield looking, Josh Duncan?
00:02:57
Josh Vince
yep
00:03:01
Josh D
Oh boy, it's not looking great. It's not looking great at all. I think, what if I was the manager? I would probably go with Pate, Giniño, the player that got run over in midfield with them two, and maybe Trussog in the eight.
00:03:15
Josh D
I think that's the only way you can really, really play.
00:03:16
officialgspn
Okay.
00:03:18
Josh D
I think, having him in midfield just doesn't work, and plus, you know, he needs to be at play up front, because we've got no Hades as well. um and run an area, I think, you know, norfund and not on Darby's for men, not for boys, you know, you're not ready for that yet. So, yeah, that's a hard play out, really.
00:03:34
officialgspn
Okay, but butuff before I ask Josh Vince the same question, i he told me off air that you had kind of a weird Havert's agenda.
Player Performance and Injuries
00:03:43
officialgspn
What's going on, man?
00:03:44
officialgspn
It was every time I see him, actually, that he's always scoring.
00:03:44
Josh D
got
00:03:47
officialgspn
and So what's going on there?
00:03:49
Josh D
No, he's not. No, he's not a good football player, honestly. He's actually not.
00:03:53
officialgspn
Wow.
00:03:53
Josh D
I mean, thinking about it, he's the best football player we've bought from Chelsea. And, you know, again, I think I saw it on another podcast, someone saying, what has he actually really done? And he's not really done anything. He's scored a couple of goals and he scores goals where he should score.
00:04:05
Josh D
He never scored a goal. You think that's an amazing finish or that's a great coy who goal. He scores goals where that's why I'm one of the keeper. He should put him in, you know, bottom corner or he misses, you know, it he misses quite a lot of goals.
00:04:16
Josh D
He should score. He's just a very frustrating guy to watch, honestly.
00:04:20
officialgspn
Okay, just fitze first of all, do you agree with the Havert's assessment? And I'm sorry if this is boring to daily Arsenal, but it's interesting for us.
00:04:26
Josh Vince
I.
00:04:28
officialgspn
And also do you agree with the midfield for Sunday?
00:04:31
Josh Vince
I don't think it's boring for the Arsenal fans. I think they love hearing us argue about Guy Haber. It's it almost every day on the Daily Arsenal Podcast. I like him personally.
00:04:41
Josh Vince
i do I do actually see where Josh comes from in terms of like missing a lot of good chances, especially in the last game against Brighton.
00:04:45
Josh D
Thank you.
00:04:49
Josh Vince
We discussed a terrible moment where he played it against himself and sent him out.
00:04:52
Josh D
Yeah.
00:04:55
Josh Vince
But I do like him. I think he's got potential. In terms of the midfield, yes, I am worried. Erdogan is a big miss he's absolutely massive in that midfield and since I mean we didn't really have anybody to cover him beforehand but especially since we sent Vieira online to Porto we definitely don't have anybody to fit naturally in there I think I think part A's got to play ah this is the thing I agree with Josh if I if you do party of Eugenia I think they got overrun I'm gonna be controversial and say part A
00:05:19
officialgspn
Hmm.
00:05:28
officialgspn
Please.
00:05:30
Josh Vince
Zinchenko holding. Havarts in the sort of 10 and then Trossard up front Martinelli on the left.
00:05:41
officialgspn
You're going to have to forgive me because when you said holding, I thought you meant Rob holding.
00:05:42
Josh Vince
that a That's him back!
00:05:45
officialgspn
I was like, surely not there.
00:05:45
Josh D
Yeah, um him
00:05:48
officialgspn
I was like, surely he's not there anymore.
00:05:51
Josh Vince
not
00:05:51
officialgspn
He's probably playing, but I can't don't know who he's playing for. but
00:05:54
Josh Vince
rubb Rub holdings are traitor to me.
00:05:54
officialgspn
um
00:05:55
Josh Vince
He got a hair transplant and I can never respect the man who openly gets a hair.
00:05:58
Josh D
yeah
00:05:59
Josh Vince
You've got to live with what you've got.
00:06:01
officialgspn
well yeah That seems a bit controversial. um Josh Duncan, what do you make of that? Zinchenko in the midfield.
00:06:08
Josh D
Nah,
Game Tactics and Expectations
00:06:09
Josh D
I'd probably go more Tim and Mitch Ford if I was going to do that, to be fair.
00:06:11
Josh Vince
Oh, yeah, good job.
00:06:12
Josh D
But then to the Genco left-back, again, i can I can see an issue on that that left-hand side.
00:06:17
Josh Vince
Hmm.
00:06:17
Josh D
I think it's been a knock-on-dog, but I think you guys might be favorites looking into it, to be fair. I think Mitch Ford probably going to lose that bow.
00:06:24
Josh Vince
How are you feeling about it, Scott, knowing that we have two massive players injured for us and our brand new midfielder fractures his shoulder in the first tackle he had in training?
00:06:36
officialgspn
I mean, now I think if you guys would have any empathy, you would know how it would feel. This is all very spursy. Do you realize this? It's potentially the most spursy thing to happen.
00:06:45
Josh Vince
ah
00:06:46
officialgspn
I think all of that perversely makes us more likely to lose for some reason, because in turn that would be quite spursy.
00:06:51
Josh D
Thank
00:06:55
officialgspn
On a real, I kind of think it's um
00:06:57
Josh D
you.
00:06:57
officialgspn
ah it's It's a bit um worrying how high the expectation is for Tottenham fans going into this. I mean, ah we we watched us lose to a Newcastle side who really, really just kind of sat back. looked looked We controlled the game, but they were in control if you kind of catch my... They didn't look worried that we were having all these chances that we weren't scoring.
00:07:17
officialgspn
they kind of bided their time I feel like they knew that they were going to score more than us eventually um and so I naturally have a bit of pessimism because I was so disappointed by the Newcastle game it's one thing to kind of get battered up at St James's Park which has happened quite a bit for us in recent times so but it's another thing to control the game and then lose um which is you know feels like more of a gut punch but Aside from that, and the the not the fact that we don't have any strikers fit is also worrying, and we'll be some through the middle, um which i mean can have its good days, can have its bad days. um It's a bit it bit unpredictable what will happen in some place through the middle. um So yeah, I find it is a really tough game to predict, and even with all the cliche stuff about form book going out of the window and all of this kind of stuff.
00:08:02
officialgspn
um Josh Vince, will Arsenal look to sit back, do you think, against Tottenham, given the fact that we've seen this um kind of be effective for Leicester and Newcastle so far this season, and also at the end of last season as well, against our attacking philosophy?
00:08:18
Josh Vince
The thing is, it's very much not the Arteta way, sitting back and being sort of negative on the ball. The injuries might impact the way that we set up slightly, but I still think that he'll be looking to play on the front foot, play... I mean, if some plays down the middle, that's kind of ideal for us.
00:08:42
Josh Vince
Because I think he's the most dangerous player on your team. I ah ah know that a lot of people like him. I don't rate Rich Allison at all. I think he's a little bit completely useless. And and so having you know having um Sun down the middle, that concentrates that against Gabriel and Saliba. I'm comfortable with that. If that's the case, then we'll play our normal game.
00:09:04
officialgspn
Hmm.
00:09:05
officialgspn
Hmm.
00:09:05
Josh Vince
If he plays out wide, then I can see a sitting back a little bit absorbing some and then catching on the counter attack.
00:09:10
Josh Vince
I think Martinelli is going to be very important in the game. Yes, Josh, he will play. He'll get that goal that I've been begging for. That's what I think anyway. I think realistically, he'll keep playing the way he's played.
00:09:22
officialgspn
Yeah. Do you tend to agree, Josh Duncan? Do you think you think our test might be a little bit more pragmatic or or not so much?
00:09:29
Josh D
No, I think you, it's not on the dub, I think you get to go all out for it, to be honest. um I don't, you see, we don't got to go white-hot lane and sit back. I mean, you know, maybe if it's the Etihad, we might do that, but yeah, not a white-hot lane.
00:09:39
officialgspn
Yeah.
00:09:39
Josh Vince
Yeah.
00:09:42
Josh D
I think we're going to go. But then again, that that could cost us the game. I can see us on account being lost. You know, I don't have a partage and then you get tired and losing the ball. You know, one of you guys picks it up, give it to Song and he, and you know, he's got, give him half a chance because he's a regular goal.
00:09:51
officialgspn
Hmm.
00:09:56
officialgspn
Yeah, I mean, I think I think listening to you guys talk about the art set away. I think Ang is rubbing his big Australian hands together and thinking that's probably exactly I think that is exactly what he would want, whether we can execute it and whether we can, you know, finish chances, which I ah god i really said I wasn't going to say the phrase finished chances anymore, but ah there we go. I've said it. um Yeah, but that ah very much remains to be seen. um Before we get into a little bit more of a North London Derby deep dive, kind of a fixture um kind of overview, I guess. um Let me tell you that this podcast is part of the Global Sports Podcast Network. The only network bringing you exclusive daily news and views on your Premier League team, the Premier League, women's football and fantasy football.
00:10:41
officialgspn
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00:10:46
officialgspn
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00:11:02
officialgspn
Let me ask for like a kind of a bit of a broad um ah overview of ah maybe your favorite North London Derby memory.
Memorable Derby Moments
00:11:11
officialgspn
Josh Vince, what would you what would do you take as your favorite North London and Derby memory?
00:11:15
officialgspn
And I'll give Josh shrugs a little bit more thinking in time, I guess.
00:11:15
Josh Vince
Oh, it's very, it's very, very simple.
00:11:17
Josh D
Yeah.
00:11:19
Josh Vince
my moment It's not even a goal. It's just a moment.
00:11:21
Josh D
Yeah.
00:11:21
officialgspn
OK.
00:11:23
Josh Vince
Theo Walcott down, injured on a stretcher, being led off the pitch. The Arsenal fans applaud him. Arsenal are winning 2-0. Theo Walcott sits up in his stretcher, clearly hurt, turns his body to the Spurs fans and shows 2-0 with his hands and then lies back down on the stretcher.
00:11:41
Josh D
Yeah.
00:11:42
Josh Vince
That is, One of my favorite footballing moments ever, but let alone the fact it was North London Derby, it was, oh, it's peachy. so
00:11:52
officialgspn
What about yourself Josh Duncan? What are you thinking?
00:11:55
Josh D
It's got to be when we won the league at White Hart Lane, and we were literally celebrating in the corner.
00:11:58
Josh Vince
Ah, yes.
00:12:01
Josh D
You know, when you drew that game, I think it was one-on-one patch, we ever scored that goal. And then literally in the corner, they're celebrating. And i remember, I think Henri said as well, and after the game, you guys were celebrating. I think it was 2-2, actually.
00:12:11
Josh D
You guys were celebrating for the draw, and and trying to um you know destroy our party. And then literally you literally said, if you said to the referee, the referee said to us, or said to Henri, don't don't do anything to get the fans out of the way, because everybody's like, forget that.
00:12:24
Josh D
you know
00:12:24
Josh Vince
forget that it's beautiful that what all about you do you have one scott i mean like you know it's it's it's been it's been tougher for spurs fans admittedly in the north london derby to find joy so have you got a moment
00:12:24
Josh D
I'm gonna do what I want. We're gonna go in here. I'm gonna go sit right in the corner. I don't think you can ever buy them. I think that's the best for more in history.
00:12:33
officialgspn
look Oh, I don't even know. I can think of anything. I feel sick. i feel Honestly sick. by that mo
00:12:45
officialgspn
It has. oh if i if i If I can bring you back to the year 1931, I think um i think ah the the best memory I have watching Tottenham Arsenal live would be the last North London Derby I went to, which was Tottenham 3 Arsenal 0.
00:12:46
Josh D
yeah
00:12:52
Josh Vince
yeah
00:13:06
officialgspn
The aforementioned Rob Holding was was dismissed. I think San's hair transpired.
00:13:11
Josh D
Oh yeah.
00:13:12
officialgspn
I think it was bald at that point.
00:13:14
Josh D
Yeah, he was.
00:13:14
Josh Vince
Yeah, there he was, yeah.
00:13:14
officialgspn
um um you goes um Yeah, but that was that was an awesome, that's the best memory I have in the new stadium, I think.
00:13:15
Josh D
I remember it.
00:13:21
officialgspn
um And yeah, it was just, that it was an awesome moment because we kind of thought then, well, it's kind of riddled with humor now, given think, oh, you know, it was Arteta who's kind of very much gone up and we thought, oh, Conte, you can't get the better of a manager like Conte.
00:13:35
officialgspn
And um obviously that panned out um as it did.
00:13:38
officialgspn
um But I remember kind of thinking in that moment, it was a very good time. ah ah um But you mentioned Henri there, and we shan't be mentioning him again. But ah you kind of raised something in the previous section about Martinelli, and I sensed there was a bit of ah there was bit of a tension between you. Maybe maybe another kind of Havert-esque rift. What's going on there, would you say?
00:13:38
Josh Vince
Here.
00:14:02
Josh Vince
Nah, nah, nah. We both love Martinelli.
00:14:04
officialgspn
OK.
00:14:05
Josh Vince
We're just aware that he's struggling this season.
00:14:07
Josh D
Yeah.
00:14:07
officialgspn
OK.
Team Form and Player Fitness
00:14:09
Josh Vince
Yeah, ah he hasn't...
00:14:09
officialgspn
Right. And why why do why do you think that is?
00:14:12
Josh Vince
Go on, Josh, what do you reckon?
00:14:13
Josh D
I think he's down to his fitness. He just doesn't look fit enough.
00:14:15
Josh Vince
Oh, yeah.
00:14:15
Josh D
He just doesn't look sharp enough. He looks like he just needs to um don't change his diet plan or just work on the training. He just doesn't look up for it. Usually he's up for it, up for the fight. Even coming back for a good try, a minute attack on him, run with the ball.
00:14:30
Josh D
This season just doesn't, it's still early, but it doesn't look right to me.
00:14:35
Josh Vince
To be honest this international break that we've just come out of might be the best thing for him especially going to the Northland and Derby because I've been saying for the last couple of weeks he just needs a goal he a goal and he'll fly because I think he's ready he had a rough season last season he was injured get a goal he'll absolutely fly
00:14:39
officialgspn
Hmm.
00:14:41
Josh D
Yeah.
00:14:53
officialgspn
Yeah, and is that is there a kind of, um I guess you you, Josh Vince, suggested playing Trossard in midfield. Is there a debate to play Trossard over Martinelli, like going on? Because he seems to score lots of Trossard, and often in quite important games as well.
00:15:09
Josh Vince
a He does. I prefer him off the bench. I think he works better that way. I think JD, you were talking about having him in the midfield, weren't you? Because I'm not sure about having him in the midfield.
00:15:20
Josh Vince
I've never really seen him in that position, but he has played deeper for like Brighton than that sort of thing. So it's not a bad idea. whats sort if If he did that, would you be happy with my landing on the left and the two playing off each other?
00:15:31
Josh D
Yeah, yeah, that's that's the only way I can say, unless you're going to put timber there.
00:15:32
Josh Vince
Yeah.
00:15:35
Josh D
We haven't got any midfielders anymore, really. know
00:15:38
Josh Vince
We've lost a lot of midfielders.
00:15:40
Josh D
yeah you go come here
00:15:41
Josh Vince
Yeah, we have really lost a lot of midfielders just before a North London Derby and then, you know, City afterwards as well.
00:15:48
officialgspn
Yeah. yeah
00:15:48
Josh Vince
The competitive game.
00:15:49
Josh D
yeah
00:15:52
Josh D
so
00:15:52
officialgspn
as well oh You see Tottenham fans, you can hear that I'm very much not sinking down sort of to the so some of some of the levels that are being brought around.
00:15:58
Josh D
it
00:16:01
officialgspn
it is It's funny to talk about the midfield ah situation because we were um kind of having a similar kind of debate a bit before when one of our and midfielders seem, it was exposed, it was partial to the balloon. what Is it exposed if you're kind of exposing yourself? I don't know. um He exposed himself. But we we had we had a debate there. But I think our midfield is really strong now. I feel quite positive about having um kind of Besuma and Saar and then sometimes Saar gets brought off and it's like Kuleszewski-Madison and Besuma and then Alwingers and so on. And yeah, it works quite well.
Strengths of Tottenham's Midfield
00:16:35
officialgspn
And I know it's very, you know, attacking and people be like, oh, you know, it does leave us wide open. And yeah, it kind of does. But like at the same time, it's still like very exciting to watch. um Speaking of exciting to watch.
00:16:49
officialgspn
There's this trend on social media right now on Twitter called, I don't know if you've seen it, called the Barclays Men, um where like um kind of, lot there's like a, ah um it's like clipped up videos of um kind of people from the 2000s era, kind of the late 2000s era from the Premier League to kind of 2000s indie bands.
00:17:10
officialgspn
So like Aaron Lennon to kind of Maximo Park.
00:17:10
Josh Vince
Okay.
00:17:13
Josh Vince
ah
00:17:14
officialgspn
That kind of thing. um ah words I wanted to ask you quickly, ah who is your kind of favorite Arsenal Barclays man kind of from that ah late 2000s era? What would you say, Josh? For Josh Duncan, that is.
00:17:28
Josh D
Ooh, the tough one is a tough one, but I've got to pick the non-flying Dutch from Denisberg camp.
00:17:34
officialgspn
OK, that's good stuff.
00:17:35
Josh D
that yeah corporate dentni fair company He's amazing. I think he's a bit underrated as well. I think when you watch him play, he's a bit of a nasty player as well, you know. I've watched him now.
00:17:42
Josh Vince
Nasty boy, yeah.
00:17:43
Josh D
Yeah, he's he's quite quite aggressive. He's quite aggressive. So yeah, there's Birkham, hands down.
00:17:48
officialgspn
Okay, what about yourself, Josh Vince?
00:17:49
Josh Vince
I have a very deep love affair and a passionate just admiration for Santi Cathola.
00:17:57
officialgspn
Yes.
00:17:58
Josh Vince
However, if we're going to talk like Barclays Men in this sort of era and the North London Derby, that Thomas Rositsky girl was quite nice.
00:17:58
Josh D
Cool.
00:18:06
officialgspn
Oh, please.
00:18:06
Josh D
Yeah.
00:18:06
Josh Vince
So I'm going to have to go for Thomas Rositsky to think in this
00:18:06
Josh D
one yeah Oh, yeah.
00:18:10
officialgspn
Oh, I forgot that happened.
00:18:10
Josh D
that one
00:18:12
officialgspn
but Awful.
00:18:12
Josh Vince
this particular context I'll go Thomas Ruzicki, what about you Scott while you're ah reliving that delightful memory of the Thomas Ruzicki just on his right for cutting straight across the keeper, straight into the top left bins, what about yours?
00:18:19
officialgspn
oh i forgot that i forgot that yeah it was good yeah it was good that it was yeah it was a good goal i forgot what happened and ah and i'm saying that as my my face is wrought with pain um i did aforementioned aaron lennon always hold a place in my heart i remember the day when i got taller than him when i was 11 um it was a very special day
00:18:30
Josh D
like
00:18:31
Josh Vince
ah
00:18:41
officialgspn
I surpassed his 5 foot 3 stature and that was a good time. And also, ah because you've ripped me a few times, the 4-4 goal, oh yes, the 4-4 goal, when when our when our away end had shamefully emptied out to quite a large extent and Genus scored, um the now disgraced Genus and the in the early 90th minute. Sorry everyone. And then um ah and then Aaron Lennon scored and he did a wonderful kind of circular celebration with his arms and that made me very happy.
00:19:11
officialgspn
um Yeah, so that is, yeah, I would go i would go for Lennon or someone random Pascal Chimbonder. Why not? Pascal.
00:19:18
Josh D
just
00:19:18
officialgspn
I quite like Pascal. Right, we're going to get into combined 11 territory in a minute, and I'll give you guys the time to think whilst I read this next bit, which is, do you have a story to tell that the world needs to hear?
00:19:30
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00:20:03
officialgspn
I don't mean to put you guys on the spot if you guys haven't prepared for this, if you
Combined Lineup Discussion
00:20:06
officialgspn
have prepared for this. Thank you. Josh Vince, could you detail to me a 1-11 of combined Tottenham and Arsenal players?
00:20:14
officialgspn
and please ah Please don't say all Arsenal players because that will be boring listening for everyone.
00:20:19
Josh D
Heh
00:20:21
Josh Vince
Okay so if we're being nice we could say potentially the Arsenal players who are available for the North London Derby this coming Sunday.
00:20:30
officialgspn
OK, I like that caveat.
00:20:31
Josh Vince
and
00:20:32
officialgspn
That's a nice caveat.
00:20:33
Josh Vince
I'll take that caveat because it knocks out a couple of key players, especially on our end.
00:20:39
officialgspn
No Richarlison there? He's injured in there.
00:20:42
Josh Vince
I'll take Richarlston in every position. um If I'm being honest, the back five stays exactly as it is for Arsenal.
00:20:48
Josh D
heh.
00:20:51
officialgspn
OK.
00:20:51
Josh Vince
It's Raya, White, Saliba, Gabrielle and Timba, I'm going to say, for the left back.
00:20:57
officialgspn
OK.
00:20:58
Josh Vince
Moving into midfield,
00:21:01
Josh Vince
with with the caveat that I put in place and I hate that I've put it in place but I'm i'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna take it I'm gonna go Madison I like Madison you know Erdegaard's out I like Madison Partay and Haverts in midfield and then Saka on the right
00:21:11
officialgspn
Oh, okay. I wasn't expecting that. Okay.
00:21:24
officialgspn
Okay. He's gonna attack in here.
00:21:31
Josh Vince
martinelli down the middle son on the left oh
00:21:36
officialgspn
Okay, right. I thought you were going to sleep. Yeah, okay. going to do something crazy and but leave us on out for a second there.
00:21:41
Josh D
you
00:21:42
officialgspn
I thought you were going to put Trossard down.
00:21:42
Josh Vince
i was trying to but realistically now now with that with habits a bit deeper yeah i've got a yeah so there you go you get you get a couple yeah a couple but i i think that's what's better no no god
00:21:44
officialgspn
like You were going to forego us on through the middle.
00:21:54
officialgspn
Okay, Josh Duncan. Oh, sorry. Sorry. Yeah, I was going to say, Josh Duncan, do you agree with his assessment there? Anyone? and No space for the the ah World Cup winning Argentine centre back, I see, instead of Gabriel.
00:22:08
officialgspn
But that's OK.
00:22:08
Josh Vince
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
00:22:09
Josh D
Nah, nah, he's not better than Gabriel, sorry.
00:22:11
officialgspn
Really? OK. No, I mean, I don' i don't know whether i i don't even know whether I think that.
00:22:13
Josh D
and if
00:22:15
officialgspn
So I don't know.
00:22:18
Josh D
Do I agree? Well, not have it as a mid-ford. I mean, I think he's hope is a mid-ford.
00:22:22
Josh Vince
Yeah, yeah.
00:22:24
Josh D
I probably, I'll probably, I'll change a few things about it. Back four for me stayed the same.
00:22:27
Josh Vince
Mm hmm.
00:22:29
Josh D
um I think the keeper, I think Red, Red just gets there.
00:22:31
Josh Vince
Watch the
00:22:34
Josh Vince
Vicari is good. He's a good keeper.
00:22:36
Josh D
Yeah, he is.
00:22:36
Josh Vince
You've got at the moment.
00:22:37
Josh D
and
00:22:37
Josh Vince
He's definitely an improvement on Larisse.
00:22:37
officialgspn
Yeah.
00:22:39
Josh D
Yeah, yeah.
00:22:40
officialgspn
Or later, later era, Larisse, certainly.
00:22:40
Josh Vince
But Ray has been tracking me.
00:22:42
Josh Vince
Yeah.
00:22:42
officialgspn
yeah yeah that Post World Cup, the Larisse, it was a mistake every three games, which was a shame.
00:22:43
Josh D
if
00:22:43
Josh Vince
Yeah.
00:22:47
Josh Vince
Yeah.
00:22:50
officialgspn
ah
00:22:51
Josh D
Make sure wise, I probably go, I probably go to the consumer, saw, and maybe party, you know.
00:22:57
Josh Vince
Okay.
00:23:02
officialgspn
Oh, mate, you're locking it down.
00:23:03
Josh Vince
okay
00:23:04
officialgspn
So that's compact midfield.
00:23:04
Josh Vince
Yeah, very defensive, very competitive.
00:23:06
Josh D
Well, I probably would. Yeah, because there's no one else. There's no one really to pick from, really. You almost feel like often.
00:23:10
officialgspn
No, no, Madison, no, Madison, Josh D. No.
00:23:15
Josh D
Yeah. All right. I'll take out Sarf. I'll take out Sarf. I'll put Madison, actually.
00:23:19
officialgspn
OK, OK, OK, OK.
00:23:19
Josh D
I'll take out Sarf.
00:23:19
Josh Vince
Fair enough. Yeah.
00:23:20
officialgspn
I miss you. I miss you.
00:23:22
Josh D
So that's our D3 starts on the right, pants down.
00:23:22
officialgspn
Yeah.
00:23:24
Josh Vince
Obviously.
00:23:26
Josh D
Since you guys got no strike, because I have to put habits there.
00:23:32
officialgspn
I was a begrudging nod at the head of zo as you listened as well.
00:23:32
Josh D
I have to.
00:23:36
officialgspn
hu
00:23:36
Josh D
And then again, ah I would probably put him over Salanke anyway. So, you know, I think it's not great.
00:23:39
Josh Vince
Yeah.
00:23:42
Josh D
I'm 65 million down the drain. And then, yeah I mean, you know, I mean, it can is.
00:23:44
officialgspn
Oh, that was very soon. How can you say that with any authority?
00:23:47
Josh Vince
yeah Everybody was saying that about habits straight away.
00:23:53
officialgspn
Yeah, yeah very much so. We can make that in a joint in the so into the song.
00:23:58
Josh D
And then, yeah, someone on the left, you know, I think, yeah, I think that makes sense.
00:24:02
officialgspn
Well, I would agree totally with your team, ah Josh D. But maybe with a slight question mark over left-back, because I'm not sure how this um timber plays.
00:24:13
officialgspn
i haven't I haven't seen much of him. um ah but I gather he's good, but he was injured all the whole of last season. But Udoghi is a very he's a very good player, I think. And he will be. He will be very good.
00:24:24
officialgspn
He's frighteningly young. Yeah.
00:24:24
Josh Vince
and doggy's quality yeah you've got you've got a really good prospect there to be fair and doggy yeah he's he's quality so but before we move on how do you see it going scott like we've we've given our opinions but how how how much do you think you're going to lose by
00:24:30
Josh D
Yeah. yeah
00:24:31
officialgspn
Yeah.
00:24:36
officialgspn
How do I be cat cowering in the West End, which is you you're a home to home to the cheese room in the sort of most of the stadium.
00:24:45
Josh Vince
exactly
00:24:51
officialgspn
So I might like kind of pump pump the blood full of cheese at half time. No, I'll be cowering in fear. um I remember ah ah kind of going to the stadium for this game, it's a strange experience.
00:25:04
officialgspn
um because my my stomachs will be going crazy on the bus over the way there. and um I'm taking quite a kind of docile approach now. I'm very nice with you guys now, but I'll be riddled with kind of animosity and hatred kind of ah on that day.
00:25:17
Josh D
You can do it.
00:25:19
officialgspn
um But honestly, I've got got to have my positive hat on, as I often do on this podcast, which really greatly annoys the other members of Daily Tottenham sometimes, I think.
Final Derby Predictions
00:25:29
officialgspn
um But I think you've got to think that we've got to try and win.
00:25:32
officialgspn
I would say 2-0 would be my prediction. 2-0 and we'll be lucky ah so to not concede. I predicted 3-0 on the preview pod, but I think that might have been a bit crazy.
00:25:44
officialgspn
ah So I'm going to go for ah for a 2-0 and ask that we're going to miss lots of chances and it'll be a miraculous clean sheet, is what I'll say.
00:25:51
Josh D
yeah
00:25:53
officialgspn
um Josh D, can I get a quick fire prediction from you?
00:25:57
Josh D
I Think it's gonna be quite a fiery game. I think it's gonna be a 2-2, you know I i don't see us when I don't see you guys winning if we do and I think you guys play you I've ever played really awful or we've been extremely lucky. So I want to take you to your draw and
00:26:11
officialgspn
and Okay, what about yourself, Josh Vince?
00:26:13
Josh Vince
um I'm going to be very boring in a sense, I actually kind of have to agree with Josh, I think it's going to be really cagey, really fiery. And I think especially with the injuries that we've had, some youngsters are going to get a chance and they're going to go for a hell for leather, except for I think it's gonna be three all three all
00:26:28
officialgspn
Oh, wow.
00:26:28
Josh D
Oh, wow. so
00:26:29
officialgspn
i and i would I would come out of that stadium a very, very old man, I think, if it was through. I would be really struggling. um this is This is now, after this preview pod, got a disappointing 0-0 run all over it.
00:26:44
Josh D
yeah
00:26:45
officialgspn
but
00:26:45
Josh Vince
Oh, 100%. Yeah.
00:26:46
officialgspn
Definitely. But you know i is i mean I don't even believe myself when I say that. So we'll have to wait and see. Guys, this has been really, really fun. um Yeah, thank you so much for coming on, you two.
00:26:57
officialgspn
um That's it for today.
Closing Remarks
00:26:59
officialgspn
Please don't forget to listen after the North London Derby, where we will be back. ah Both of us will be back, I presume, to review the game with either despair or jubilation in our voices.
00:27:05
Josh Vince
mean
00:27:09
officialgspn
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00:27:21
officialgspn
Thank you for listening to the Daily Tottenham Podcast with the Daily Arsenal Podcast from the Global Sports Podcast Network, the place where we talk Tottenham and begrudgingly admit Arsenal every single weekday.
00:27:31
Josh Vince
yeah
00:27:32
officialgspn
Goodbye.