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Introduction to the Daily Villa Podcast
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Hello and welcome back to today's episode of the daily villa podcast as part of the global sports podcast network. My name is Joe. bo And I'm delighted as ever to be joined by Craig, but we'll sort of talk all things villa.
Reactions to Aston Villa's Defeat at Anfield
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And we're once again going to be discussing a disappointing defeat. This time it comes at Anfield as we suffered a two nil loss against Liverpool. First of all, Craig, how are you coping?
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Well, I haven't called the Samaritans yet, but I do have them on speed though, so you never know. Yeah it's been a ah really tough one I think these these last few weeks we haven't had the the rubber-the-green results wise and especially kind of Saturday night was a really really tough pill to to swallow for us. We've been so successful initially on the road this season and we now find ourselves winless in four games on our on our travels in all competitions. So what were your kind of initial emotions off the off the back of the Liverpool result?
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Well it wasn't as bad as the Spurs game. I'll start with the positive. my My initial emotions wasn't as bad as the Spurs game because there was parts of the game where we played some good football. um Spurs, I felt like we just fell apart. Whereas the Liverpool game, I think there was some moments of like pleasure and it was also a case of, honestly, because of the way we've been, I didn't go into it with much hope, if I'm perfectly honest.
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Yeah, I think I completely agree. I think it was definitely a much more um promising performance. I think there were moments of the game where we matched
Where Did Villa Go Wrong Against Liverpool?
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them. I think we you played relatively good stuff and I just think it was it was lapses in concentration that and maybe not being able to kind of the um I suppose, transition properly that that I think cost us ultimately. I think there were definitely moments where we played some some good football and I think off the back of the Spurs result, I think we saw a team that were much, much improved from that game where it just the Spurs game, nothing clicked at all. And I felt like it was just that we were having a little bit of difficulty kind of moving the ball between defense to attack. I don't know if you felt the same. Yeah, it was. Yeah, I think you summed it up perfectly there, to be honest, Joe.
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Yeah, so I think kind of looking at at the goals that we conceded, obviously they were relatively similar in the nature that we we conceded goals. But where do you think it all went wrong for us? Do you think there's a certain area on the pitch or or an individual? ah you amormized and I everyone that's listened to this show knows of what a positive person I've been behind Unai Emery, behind Austin McPhee, ah behind the boys in general, um but I felt we went into the game not understanding the pace of Liverpool's counter-attack.
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And ah we expect Liverpool to have the bulk of the ball, especially at Anfield. That's kind of a given. But it was also a case of, I think we showed naive defending um at times when we were looking, when we had possession, and especially on corners.
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And as I say, I've been a massive backer of Austin McPhee. I think he's been a big reason to why we've been so successful at set pieces. But I can't understand how we left so little back behind the ball when it came to the counter. And I know the best way to defend a counter is to press at the top of the box as opposed to keeping players back on the halfway line.
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But if the initial press is beaten, there has to be cover. And we were vulnerable every single time. It got to the point, Joe, that I felt like Liverpool fans were excited every time Villa got a corner.
Liverpool's Counter-Attacking Dominance
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Yeah, absolutely. And it it was a really strange one because it's not an area that we've really seen this team be exposed to, particularly counter-attacked. There's never something we've really struggled to to kind of defend in the past. But yeah, definitely. It was ah it was really weird because I felt like There wasn't necessarily, there was a plan for the set pieces on an attacking end, but when Liverpool were winning headers, which they have a really big backline, Van Dyke, Canate, there's players in there that that are very strong in the air. There didn't seem to be any sort of planners as to when they transitioned the ball forward. And I think you look at Liverpool, they've had such a reputation as ah a counter-attacking team. I know that was primarily when Klopp was in charge, but under slot too, they've they've kind of done it to a maybe less regular extent, but still just as dangerous. And you look at the pace that they have, you know, Diaz, Nunes, Salah coming forward, McAllister on the the edge of the box, you know, they're they're players that can hurt you on a counter. And I think it was it was um perhaps naivety to assume that that wasn't something that we were going to have to come up against, because, as I say, Liverpool are so dangerous when they do counter.
Villa's Possession and Rhythm Challenges
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Looking at the um the statistics from the game, I think it's it's really interesting. Liverpool having 62% of possession, which I think was a ah big thing a kind of big um facet of the game in the sense that we're a team that like to dominate the ball. And obviously nobody expects to go to Anfield and have 60, 70% of possession. But it did mean that I felt like we couldn't necessarily get ah patterns of play together and and really progress the ball and and build up attacks. Is that something you felt was was kind of similar?
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Yeah, I felt like we didn't have much rhythm to our play. I think we looked like a team that was low on its luck. If you would have asked me going to Anfield if I was confident this past weekend, absolutely not. But if you would have just gone back a week or two prior,
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I feel like we could have gone and took on anyone, just like we showed by beating Bayern Munich, for example. um But I do think spirits are down. I think the international break has come at a really good time, where Emery can bring a couple of players aside, pull them aside, work
Player Performance Analysis
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on them. um I don't think Bayley's gone off with Jamaica, you can correct me if I'm wrong there, as Bayley is one of those people in particular that just looks a shell of his former self. And it's really getting to the point now where I asked for patience in the beginning of season when Watkins was struggling with form, but I'm running out of patience with Bailey. It just seems like we've been saying it for a number of weeks now that he's struggling. He's came out and said it himself, but what is being done to help it? And if if at the end of the day, if it's not working, it's time for him to sit on the bench for longer periods of time.
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Yeah and I think he's somebody that that kind of struggled particularly in in the last few weeks and I think he's somebody who struggled for for large parts of this season. I think he's kind of, it's a shame with Bayley because I think a lot of the time you can see that he's trying to do the right things and then just not coming off and I think that that to me is a player who's probably um played too many minutes and he's feeling lethargic and feeling the physical and mental effects of playing so much football. I was surprised to see him feature as you say as much as he did because I think he's been he's looked this way for for the past few games and I was surprised to see somebody like Phila Jean not start the game or will come in earlier.
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because I think baby was really really struggling I think there were times where he looked kind of out of ideas and he was he was trying things in the hope that they'd work and against a world-class fullback like uh like Andy Robertson down our right side their left side things like that just they're not going to come off so he was struggling but I definitely don't think he was the only one I think there was a few players I think Watkins looked up a shell of the player that we know he can be. um I think Ramsey looked bright before, obviously, he suffered an injury and had to to make way. I thought he was a bright spark in that team. But for me, it's the... It's Rodgers and Tealemans who are my standout two performers. I think that's been the case for a lot of games so far this season. what What did you make of, kind of, particularly Yuri Tealemans' performance and in the middle? I thought it was okay. um I feel like with Tealemans,
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He's been missed a consistency for me this season. He's done really well. He's gone from the point of being a bit part player to being a major player at the Villa. I do feel, though, his game gets elevated when other players around him are doing a good game. So I think when Morgan Rogers is on form, when Ollie Watkins is on form, Ramsey on his side of the field, when when those players click, I think it takes a good tealiman into a great tealiman.
Defensive Positioning Concerns
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I thought Oh Nana did a decent shift against Liverpool. um But again, I don't ah think he's another one when everything's going well around him, it really ups his game. And the other one is Mr. Consistent from this season, the one we've highlighted majorly as a big improvement, Luca Dean.
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I think if if we ever stood a chance against Liverpool for creating something, it was Dean's balls into the box from the left side. So those would those would be mine. And then Diego Carlos had a rough day. Martinez had a rough day.
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And I want Unai Emery as much of a big fan as I am of him. I want him to take out his notebook and write down a hundred times. Kanza is not a write back. Kanza is not a write back. And so to the point where we figure out, because as I've told, I think our listeners before and Joe, you know, I'm a coach. I'm certainly no level of Unai Emery or anywhere along those levels.
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But I was always taught you don't weaken one position to fix another. And I feel that's what we're constantly doing at the Villa with Kanza shifting out wide. Kanza is a, in my opinion, one of the best centre backs in the Premier League.
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and does okay as a right back. I'm not going to so come out here and say he's terrible because he's not. um But it does weaken our position as a team when we shift him out wide and it's getting to the point I'm sick of saying it, but I think it still needs to be said.
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Yeah, absolutely.
Reliance on Young Talents
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I think there's there's a few players in there. I think Dina and Onana are ah ah good choices in terms of players that stood out. I think the thing for me why I highlight Rogers and Tealemond specifically is I feel like they are ah current, probably our two biggest creators.
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I think they're the two players that when the ball comes into them you look forward and you expect something to to to to happen. I think Tealman's passing range allows him to be able to put balls out wide or up forward to Watkins and he's he feels kind of very safe, he's good on a half turn at turning defence into attacking the transition, he's he's really effective.
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And Rodgers is just an exciting footballer to watch. There's times where he can pick the ball up and beat two or three men. It's just we we've kind of been critical of that final ball a few times with Morgan Rodgers and I think that's something that he still hasn't quite got down to to be as consistently good as we we kind of hope that it can be. I think as we go, sorry to interrupt.
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yeah I think one thing we've got to be careful of though is the fact that Morgan Rogers is still a very young player is still a player that's only just come up from the championship and we're starting to expect a lot from this guy rather than it be a case of being surprised about how well he's doing and honestly if we have desire to go through to the next round of the Champions League. If we have desire to finish in that top four again, we need other people to step up and take that pressure off Morgan Rogers because at the moment he's been asked to do a lot at such a young age. And I think he's he's handled it well, don't get me wrong. But I think it's time that some of the other step up and relieve some of that pressure from him.
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Yeah, absolutely. I think that's a ah really interesting point because I think that kind of that suits a lot of this season. We've relied on on some of our youngest talents. You know, you think of Duran who's come on and saved us and saved us a lot of points so far this season, Rogers in moments. But I think that the the kind of the glaring thing for me from that question then, is it time to have a a real conversation
Ollie Watkins' Form and Squad Choices
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about Watkins? is it Is it that point yet? Are we at that point?
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I think it's at the point now where the people who were saying Duran should start, you can't really argue it. Watkins isn't showing he's gone through that dip in form at the beginning of the season to being a bonafide should be starting for that the last bulk of the season. But the last few games, he's really been a passenger. And we can't afford that. As I say, if we're happy to be a top 10 team, then we're doing fine with our form. And I'm not saying this is the time to panic, hit the panic button and then so on.
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But you have to start questioning some of the talent that are consistently, and that I've used that word a lot in this podcast already, consistently not performing, like I mentioned Bailey, and I have to mention Watkins at this point. um I don't think Duran has looked as good coming off the bench recently again, but also, like I said about Rodgers, I don't think we can consider the fact that every single time he comes on at that 60-minute mark, he's going to change the game. but' That's not and fair to him, and it's not right.
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Yeah, absolutely. I think it's going to be interesting kind of over the course of the next few games to see who is going to to kind of step up and and really um really drag us through games where it's kind of cagey and intense in moments. But we're going to be back to discuss the
Villa's Struggles Against Top Clubs
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result further. We're going to look at the details and some of the decision making after a short message courtesy of Zencast.
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Welcome back and losing Anfield now means that we've seen defeat against another of the top six clubs, they partner Spurs and Arsenal, I believe. Is this something that's starting to become a real concern for you, Greg? It is. I mentioned this when we when we did the Liverpool and, s sorry, Spurs and Arsenal results. The fact that it's now three three of those teams that are fighting for that top four um is a worry.
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um but they are they are dropping points themselves, Arsenal haven't been consistent, Man City are struggling ah by their standards at least. Um, Liverpool are on fire and it's one of those things that when you go into a season, there's going to be those, um, momentum builders and the mental killers throughout the season and it grows. And that we just hit Liverpool at the wrong time. They are, they could be anyone at this point. Um, slots got them firing on all cylinders. Mo Salah looks like a player that's been rejuvenated, um, under this new system of slot.
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um So yeah, it's it's tough the fact that we've lost against again against another top four team, but it is still November. um I feel like we need to pick up some results. Like last season, we got big results against Arsenal. We got big results against City. If the lighter part of the season, we can pick up our form again. There's no reason why we can't hit that top four again. But with four defeats on the bounce now, it does so start as a warrior.
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Yeah, absolutely. I completely agree. And I think it's also important, as you say there, about the kind of form that that Liverpool had coming into the game. They've taken 28 points from 11 games in the league and beaten in the Champions League. You know, Swat has got them playing great football. And we saw that kind of firsthand at Anfield. I think that in terms of the the teams around us, as you mentioned there, it's it's a really strange one in the sense of none of those the kind of big six sides in in in quotation marks are are picking up points regularly. We saw Spurs drop points, Arsenal drop points as you mentioned. So I think it's definitely a an interesting factor that and I suppose it goes to show the quality that's in those kind of lower ah lower half of the Premier League in the sense that the big teams are are being beaten. So I think in terms of
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worrying about losing two big six sides, that's not a concern for me. What what concerns me more if you look at the season generally is the points that we dropped to Ipswich and Bournemouth and clubs in those kind of you point builders without trying to sound disrespectful to those teams. So that that probably worries me more.
Tactical Insights and Defensive Vulnerabilities
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um I think kind of looking at at the game in terms of the plan for the Liverpool game, I think we mentioned earlier about the counter-attacks and ah kind of the the way in which Liverpool are known for having this this system of playing.
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with the with new earth sorry With Liverpool being notoriously good at counter-attacks, were you surprised that there was so much space left for them from our set pieces? I know we mentioned it briefly earlier, but looking in a little bit more detailed, were you kind of surprised by the plan that was was set out? I was. I thought it was very gung-ho. It seemed like that um And you mentioned earlier that Liverpool are not a vulnerable team in the air by any stretch of the means. They've got players that can win that ball. I feel like the way we set up was a team that we thought we could dominate in the air, so it wouldn't become an issue. So I felt that was um very naive. I didn't think it was right, the way we set up, because you have to, when it comes to a counter, you have to try and stop them before they build up speed.
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And then you need coverage if you get beaten by the first line of pressure. And I felt we had the first line of pressure, but Liverpool have aided it very well. Keller was very quick to counter attack once he got the ball in his hands, looking to release the lights of Diaz and McAllister and so on. um So it it it it did worry me that the way we set up, they did get a little lucky with the second one, the fact that I think it was Kanza smashed it against his head and he headed it forward past him. And it's like nine times out of 10, that's not going to happen. But like it happens against Liverpool and they punish you. It's as simple as that.
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But yeah, the way we defended the counter-office set pace was very worrying or just counter-tax in general. Whenever we had the ball, we lost it. We're a team that you don't see as many teams doing overlapping fullbacks like we do with Luca Dean now and with Maddy Cash when he's fit.
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So that's a, that's a worry when you come up against a team like Liverpool, because most teams now are playing inverted fullbacks where they come into the midfield. So there's a lot more numbers around the ball. So when you lose the ball, there's more, more strength in depth to camera attack that, which I thought we would have at least on the right hand side with Kanza, who doesn't naturally go forward as much as a Maddy Cash 8.
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it was more like an inverted fallback but it still didn't help on that side but I do think we were more vulnerable on the left even though I praised Luca Dina for what he did i have a good game I think him creating so much width was a bit of an issue for us.
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Yeah definitely and I think that's a really interesting tactical insight I think in terms of elsewhere in the game. There was a few big talking points, particularly penalty decisions.
Controversial Penalty Decisions and VAR
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The two that spring to mind for me was Ollie Watkins taking a rather theatrical tumble in the box. But then there was also Paul Torres who had his shirt pulled from a free kick, I believe. Was there anything in either of those? I think there was something both.
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to be perfectly honest i think the white ollie went down was kind of the reason why it wasn't called because as you say it was theatrical he did go down but i've seen him give him and that's i think the biggest wrongdoing that Villa fans have is the fact that we see this happen to all other teams. Going back to the handball by Mings the other day as well, that wasn't given when Arsenal played Bayern Munich. The exact same thing, it's like a pattern for pattern mistake. Doesn't go against, doesn't go for us, it goes against us. We see these penalties that we feel that if they were flipped in the um in the Liverpool area in front of the cup, they'd be given.
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That's the biggest thing that's worrying me and the fact that the reason people don't like VAR is because it's still so inconsistent. If the right result happens, that's why I'm not at all a debater on the off side where they go, oh, it's too close to call. If it's off, it's off. That's the way I look at it. But when it comes to these penalties, you would expect them to be given the other way around and no one can tell me any different. um The Torres one, he's got the guy's shirt.
00:21:38
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he's pulled him back and the ball's in that area so I could see it being given and um I agree with Unai Emery that say kind of says we were robbed.
00:21:51
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Yeah definitely I think there's there's definitely something to be said for for both decisions I completely agree in the sense that I think Ollie is sort of a victim of his own theatrics in the box I think taking falling to ground so kind of um in in that fashion I think probably didn't do him the world of good in terms of of getting the decision. The pal Torres one I think is really interesting because I think anywhere else on the pitch there's ah there's a foul and a free kick being given you'd like to think so I think that that level of inconsistency is is as you say one of the issues that a lot of supporters have surrounding VAR refereeing. So I think we were slightly unlucky with with those situations, but I don't think they can be used as a kind of crutch to lean on in terms of why we didn't win the game overall. I think Liverpool were were more than good for the the three points that that that they took.
Impact of Substitutions
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I think looking at the the the other thing I wanted to to touch on Craig was the the substitutions, because Villa made five throughout the course of the game with McGinn, Philogene, Duran, Mattson and Camara all taken to the field at various points throughout the second half. What did you make of the ah the kind of, I suppose, the decision making behind some of the... I didn't mind the decision making. It was more the reaction when they came on. The game didn't get any better. It didn't seem like anyone wanted a step up.
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um Philogene, I don't understand, like we mentioned earlier, like you said about why he didn't start over Bayley, who's struggling. And there's part of me that's like, oh, Unai's protecting him, but he didn't want to protect him against Bayern Munich. He put him straight in the line of fire there. And I thought that was a really scary thing to do, but he achieved and he did really well.
00:23:33
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But then he comes on um yesterday in the Liverpool game and didn't do anything. Didn't really stand out for any reason whatsoever. Kamara just doesn't seem ready yet. He just doesn't seem like the package he was when when he came on. um McGinn.
00:23:55
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can't really say anything about what McGinn did. And Madison was a step down for me when ah for Luca Dean. I think Dean was doing a lot better. and It's a tough one because when weve we've talked about how good our strength in depth is. and But when we put those subs on, the game did not get any better. It could have even gone further down in the pan, to be perfectly honest. And I've actually come up with a little theory why I think that we're struggling a little um as the season's gone on.
Squad Chemistry and Player Integration
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when Kamara, Mingus and Buendia all came back it was a case of we all said oh this is going to be like three brand new signings the strength and depth is going to go up through the roof and this is going to be great. I do feel though it's mixed with morale now though because Emery's not sure who we should be using who we shouldn't I feel like we've chopped and changed like in the palace game. and We've moved players around because of Maddy Cash's injury and stuff like that. I don't think we have as much chemistry now going into the few games. And I'm not going to say it's totally on the blame of those three, but I think those three coming into the mix now where it's not a guarantee who's going to play in defense. It's not a guarantee who's going to play in the center mid.
00:25:15
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And the attention to all these things in training is going to be split up around those players. So I do think that it's a case of like, like you have with preseason, you have enough time to get the team together, to blend, to bond. These players coming in kind of towards the middle of the season, I think has been a bit disruptive.
00:25:39
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Yeah, I think that's a really interesting point. I think that the players that we highlighted, especially players like Ming, those big personalities that maybe haven't been able to ah feature as much. I think those guys coming in and and playing the football, the amount of football that they've played,
00:25:53
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I think definitely will will take a toll on the the already existing members of the squad. I think another interesting thing that I kind of have highlighted goes back to the filigene thing in in exactly what you were saying there, in kind of entrusting him at certain points in the season. Like you say, he was trusted in the buy-in game.
00:26:10
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and then seems to kind of be trusted half and half a little bit kind of being brought on in in moments and we don't really know where where Emory kind of stands and I think that also kind of relates to the the right back situation. I think we saw two really young right backs in Bogard and Nedulakova to come in.
00:26:29
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they were trusted with Premier League minutes and then they were kind of withdrawn and we now have concert right back who as we've mentioned countless times isn't a right back so it feels like especially with the younger players Emory kind of half trusts some of these younger players and I can i imagine i'm really it's really confusing for for those guys because again they don't really know where they stand or how much they're likely to feature so I thought that was a really interesting point and perhaps you know perhaps our right back struggles with Cash's injury and Conza's kind of difficulty playing there is actually fixable from within so I think that's definitely something that could be explored in the future because I don't think Bogard or Nedjilukov really put a foot wrong in the minutes that they played that I can remember um so I think that's definitely ah an interesting point because lest we forget Nedjilukov played the Arsenal game against one of the best left-wingers in the division in in Martinelli so he's obviously
00:27:23
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well regarded you think and well trusted to be given that kind of responsibility but now he isn't because we've got a centre back there i'm not sure what your thoughts are very much like to hear what's being said behind the scenes because when you look at it from like where we are that don't have the privilege of being in the dressing room and everything like that it does seem a slap in the face when you're the backup right back and he'd rather move someone at a centre back to cover that position It's kind of as if to just c say to you naturally, you're just not ready. You're not good enough. You're not there. Whereas if he is having that conversation behind closed doors and saying, listen,
00:28:04
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This isn't what I think. It's a case of, I don't think you're ready yet. I want to give you that opportunity against lesser teams, like when we played against Palace in the cup. I'm not saying Palace is a lesser team, but we we considered that tournament, that trophy, a messer lesser competition per se. So I think if they're having that conversation and they trust the manager, which it seems like most of them do, if not all of them,
00:28:30
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So then that's okay, but if it's very discreet the way he's doing it It can only affect those players mentally that our coach just doesn't think I'm good enough
00:28:45
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Yeah, and but like I said, that's definitely a conversation, kind of, but you'd like to think and like to hope that is happening ah behind closed doors with those players, because I think we've got two really young, talented defenders. We're going to be back after a short message from the Global Sports Podcast Network to look ahead towards an international break and our next game against Pughs.
Looking Forward to the International Break
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00:29:36
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Welcome back and we now are going to look ahead to the international break, which we have coming up, as I think Craig mentioned earlier, I think it's going to be ah a welcome break for much of of this villa squad. What would you like to see kind of achieved or solved? The best thing about the international break is the fact that we will go undefeated for at least 10 days.
00:29:58
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So it's one of those things that we gotta we gotta regroup we definitely have we gotta start again we gotta try and focus on what's made us successful. and One thing I really want to hope for is that we come out the international break with no injuries scaved. We want to make sure that we give the opportunity. I know we're going to miss a bunch of players that are going to be away on international duty, but those fringe players where we can give them some extra attention in practice, in training, now it's going to be extremely beneficial. And I think
00:30:33
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We can try and go away, clear our heads a little, forget about the fact that we haven't won in five games now um with the draw against Bournemouth and then four losses. It's time to regroup, it's time to come back and figure out where we've been, how we've been successful and go from there.
00:30:55
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Yeah, absolutely. I think it's it's come at a really good time for us. I think it's now time, as you say, for those fringe players and those young players to to get on the pitch and and maybe a shift in mentality. you know We've had some really poor form and our heart I think it's a ah perfect opportunity for everybody to kind of go away on various international tournaments or or have you know that time to really analyse our performances previously.
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and then be ready to attack the Crystal Palace game which obviously is is going to be a ah winnable ah winnable game and an opportunity to get us back up and running again. So I think that is going to be all we have time for on today's episode of the Daily Villa Podcast. Thank you Craig for joining me. Be sure to get in touch across all the socials that you can find in the podcast description. This has been a global sports podcast production. Thank you for listening and as always of the Villa.