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This week Garrett and Chris are talking GCW, Circle 6, CM Punk, All Out 2023 and more!

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College Memories and 'Eating Beers'

00:00:34
Speaker
We used to think, a very stupid thing in college, it's similar to shotgunning, called eating a beer. You couldn't do this. Have you ever seen this? I don't know what this is about to be. So what you do is you take a can of beer, you hit it against your head a few times, and that kind of softens it. Okay. You take it to the side, you bite into the side of the beer and just go back. It's like shotgunning it from the side.
00:01:05
Speaker
My most distinct recollection of doing this is being in a circle with some friends, like, let's eat a beer. And I was like, guys, why are we doing this tonight? What are we celebrating? They're like, well, we took our entrance exam from med school today. Like all of those people are doctors now. They're fucking doctors. And we were eating beers together in college.
00:01:30
Speaker
At my 10 year reunion, someone was like, let's eat a beer. And then like the next morning I saw him with his family and I was like, that's weird. Once you have kids, you can't eat a beer. I have not eaten a beer since I had a child. Well, now all of those doctors and lawyers are wealthy enough that they're basically living out the movie hostile and just paying to slowly murder people. They make other people eat beers for them.

Sandman and the Wrestling Fan Incident

00:01:58
Speaker
But it's a pleasure.
00:01:59
Speaker
Eat the can. Fuck. Oh, eat the can. It's it's one of those things you're like, why did you do? I like I fuck it. Fuck if I know. I don't even know you could do it until someone showed. I was like, that seems weird. It's like it sounds like something that if you if I ever met the Sandman, I'd be like, you want to see this and you'd be like, sweet Sandman, you want to eat a beer with me?
00:02:27
Speaker
I saw a video from what I assume was maybe outside of, I don't know, maybe star cast over the weekend where Sandman is standing outside of what looked like a hotel and this shirtless man
00:02:46
Speaker
uh who looked like a back yarder like he but he was definitely just a fan but look like he looked like a guy who's wrestled on a trampoline a couple times and the guy goes just do it and sandman goes you need to promise me you're not going to sue me and just goes just fucking do it and sandman gains him
00:03:08
Speaker
It's like Sandman probably was outside having a cigarette after he enjoyed his continental breakfast. It's a fucking red roof murder in and gets to wake up. That's a weird thing to be a person that's like, hit me. I'm a fan. I love your work. Please assault me. Yeah, I mean.
00:03:30
Speaker
If I'll come out of retirement of eating beers, if I get to eat a beer with a Sandman, I think that's the only scenario left in which I'll eat a beer is if the Sandman is like, sounds fun, let's do it. And be like, okay. Yeah, I would eat a beer with the Sandman and I would do penis cocaine with Jimmy Lloyd. No, I wouldn't because he would take it all and disappear.

Hosts' Return and 'Eating Beers' Teaser

00:03:59
Speaker
Hey everybody, welcome to another episode of Predetermined to Pro Wrestling Hangout. Garrett and Chris here. Chris has been gone. Garrett's been here with Eater. Eater's not here today. And we were just talking about eating beers. We're back. Eating beers, it's a thing. We'll explain it to you. Next time we see it, we'll let you know what that is. All I'm saying is we could, I guess. The only person I'll eat a beer with is the Sandman. That's what I'll confirm. Maybe stick it at the end, Garrett. You can just let that be like an outro.
00:04:28
Speaker
a surprise bonus for people, which is less of a surprise than I said it now, but. I feel like it's just gonna lead in, because it would be game wrestling talk. Yeah. And we didn't name names other than Sandman, so. It's true. It's true. Oh, fuck. Hey, so college doesn't matter anymore, right? Like, that's not a thing that, like, gets anybody anywhere these days, or? I mean, only sort of.
00:04:57
Speaker
It still does, I think it's hard to apply to certain jobs if you don't have college, but it's certainly less of a distinguishing thing than it was when our parents went, I don't know.

Debate: College Fund vs. Wrestling Memorabilia

00:05:09
Speaker
I only ask because Sawyer Rec is auctioning off some bloody clothes. Okay. And I don't know how high that auction's gonna go, but I feel like dipping into my child's college fund,
00:05:24
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, he'll get it, right? He's like, why did you buy the tall, bloody woman's clothes, Papa? It's like, well, ask your therapist. That's what the rest of the college money use it for that. Yeah. Yeah, you'll be. Yeah, maybe that's maybe after watching like watching wrestlers with you all of his life, he'll go, I think I need to help people. I need to help these people figure out why they're doing this.
00:05:53
Speaker
like he's like I'm gonna I'm gonna help Matt Tremont figure out the next Matt Tremont not become Matt Tremont I guess he could go that route but I thought you were gonna say that he's going like the
00:06:09
Speaker
the onsite paramedic route or like into sports medicine, which what's funny isn't in deathmatch wrestling. Like the person who sits in the back with tweezers and pulls glass out of Tremont is sport. That's sports medicine. That's just as good as like getting a, uh, getting a cramp out of Kobe Bryant's calves. You could combine it. I think you could be like now Akira.
00:06:35
Speaker
Why, why did you do this? Someone just, why did you let someone throw you onto this board of glass? And yes, I'm going to pick the glass out of your back, but maybe we can think next time about why we're doing this and maybe address some of those issues with, with your mom before this really hurts or Dale patch. Like I, I just talked about, I watched a bunch of indie wrestling this weekend before all out. And I, I've, I've watched.
00:07:03
Speaker
the GCW Hoffman Estate Show, Say You Will, I think it was called, at the same time as the Circle Six, Sickest of the Six, which was a deathmatch tournament.

Chicago Wrestling Events: GCW vs. Circle Six

00:07:16
Speaker
Also in Chicago, right? I think that one was- Also in Chicago. In actual Chicago. Yeah.
00:07:22
Speaker
It was interesting because GCW this week felt very much, you know, they were like, it wasn't very violent. It really took on the idea of wrestling at a place where children play soccer. Whereas circle six was wrestled like a show that was at a bar that, you know, looked a little, you know, like it wasn't fancy. It was everyone. People, people go to there to have a good time.
00:07:51
Speaker
Pop open a couple. They're really picking up some slack. Like GCW's in this like, are we PWG or are we deathmatch? Like while they're figuring that out, Circle Six knows exactly what they are. Yeah, yeah, like it's like on my two screens, on like one screen is like Tony Depp and doing like midget spots with Hornswoggle. And on the other part of my screen,
00:08:19
Speaker
is like, again, like Dale Patrick getting like thrown downstairs. Like into a pile of glass.

Dale Patrick's Wrestling Persona Evolution

00:08:28
Speaker
So I saw Dale Patrick wrestle a bunch in person one weekend with our buddy tag at that deathmatch weekend at Indianapolis. And at that time, his thing was he was the deathmatch jackass.
00:08:44
Speaker
So his whole thing was like, he was just like a fun, loving, like basically a character from Jackass. Like his logo looked like the Jackass logo, maybe with light tubes instead of the crutches or something. I don't know, he was a very likable baby face and he went far in tournaments and did some really crazy shit. And then I saw, the last I saw of him, he was a villain and he came out in like a trench coat. And that kind of bummed me out. Cause I liked the fun, loving Jackass guy.
00:09:12
Speaker
what is he in circle six he was more on the fun loving side he wasn't aggressively fun loving he was more of a like uh it was also kind of a i felt kind of a heroic kind of thing i mean he was he was clearly hurt coming out for the
00:09:30
Speaker
The main event was like, this guy is definitely like, he did something to his knee somewhere in here. He maybe shouldn't be wrestling, but he's going to do this and he's not going to hold anything back. And he and Akira had a truly crazy match. Um, ring, no ring ring, but without, uh, without the canvas and padding. So board, it's a board match. And just in the center of the ring is a.
00:09:58
Speaker
another board that's covered in glass. And a bunch of light tubes. Because this tournament we saw in Indianapolis came down to three or four people, and two of those people were Dale Patrick and Akira, and they took off the canvas, they took off the mats, and they just covered all the boards 100% in broken glass. Like, you couldn't even see the boards because it was just crushed glass. This was safer.
00:10:29
Speaker
At that show, we were sitting front row and we saw Akira and Dale Patrick's look at that. And basically everybody involved in the match, you could hear them talking like before the cameras started. And there was like, yeah, fuck that. It was like, it was like, I think asylum wrestling. It was like an Indianapolis death match company. And there was like, absolutely not. Like we are not getting paid enough.
00:10:54
Speaker
to deal with this shit. So everybody just immediately jumped out of that ring and fought around the outside the entire time, never doing a bump in that shit.
00:11:06
Speaker
Yeah, clearly, again, I guess credit to Circle Six for getting everyone to agree to this. Because no one, again, there was no one was avoiding anything.

Akira's Light Tubes Incident

00:11:14
Speaker
Other than there was an odd spot at the beginning, so the main, the referee of the main event was Drake Younger. And Akira, like a minute into the match, just takes a bundle of light tubes and just throws it in Drake's face for reasons that are unclear, story-wise.
00:11:31
Speaker
Unless I miss something, I don't know. Um, I tend to have my commentary a little bit down, but I, I, uh, I don't know what happened. And Drake just like didn't referee for a while. And then Kate like punched the ref who like replaced him and then went back to repping like five minutes later. It's like, I don't know. Um, but yeah, it was a great show. They, they, they did, uh, the other super fun match was Matt Tremont. And.
00:12:01
Speaker
Oh, I'm blanking on his partner. Why am I blanking on his partner? Oh, geez. I gotta find this. This is gonna bum me out. Was it sickest of the six? Yes. Okay. Oh, Bobby Everly. The Bev.
00:12:27
Speaker
Matthew. Sorry. Matt Tremont, Bobby Beverly against going into the match. It was two mystery opponents and their opponents were AJ Gray and Alex Cologne. Damn. Yeah. God damn. Yeah, they had a banger. They had a they had a full on banger all around Reggie's.
00:12:49
Speaker
With what

Intriguing Fan at Wrestling Event

00:12:50
Speaker
I also liked about Reggie's was that you could just kind of like there were seats in certain places, but you could also just kind of like stand not too close to the ring there were there's guardrails, but there was a woman on the one side of the ring in like a white dress.
00:13:06
Speaker
who seemed, I couldn't see who, it didn't seem like she was with anyone else who was like forcing her to be there, but she also seemed a little bit scared. Like I just wanted to ask her what her overall vibe was and how she was feeling about this and like what she thought about Matt Tremont. And I mean, it's possible that like your wife Garrett, she just like, she got, she like went to a death match show and was just like, this is a fun thing. I like screaming at this, you know?
00:13:34
Speaker
I'm gonna go dressed as Marilyn Monroe next time. Do you think she got stood up on a date? Do you think she was there waiting for somebody who looked like a bloodier version of us? Or maybe Casanova Valentine. He's a Casanova. He's a heartbreaker. It's right there in the name. That's true. So maybe he was just like, look, I'm gonna go do commentary over here.
00:14:04
Speaker
You stand over here and we'll hang out. I like, I thought it was also props to circle six because while their show was free, the video quality and streaming consistency was better than the one I was paying for. That is wonderful.
00:14:25
Speaker
No, I'm looking at the card on this. I mean, it's mostly matches that I'm like reading what the, you know, the stipulation is

Deathmatches and Wrestling Style Contrasts

00:14:34
Speaker
and everything. I'm like, no, oh my God. Did you watch this Atticus or this Otis Kogar Remington Thor Blunt Force trauma death match? What the fuck is that? He hit him with a chair that was so hard. And so like his, the chair shot was so hard and fast.
00:14:53
Speaker
Like, they were like, we gotta slow this down. And even in slow-mo, it was disturbing. That's awful. Even in slow-mo, I didn't know about this, but even in slow-mo, you couldn't fully process how hard it was like. It was quite something. It was quite something. How weird is it to schedule a match where you're like, all right, we got seven minutes and we just know it's gonna end. We only got one shot at this, guys, because I'm going to be unconscious.
00:15:25
Speaker
We got to do it for Chicago. They went very, it went hard. I would actually, it's interesting because like the, like work, Brady, like chill out relatively speaking match was Matt justice against Atticus Kogar, which was in no way contextually like a chill out, like, but they, they like didn't hit each other with any light tubes, you know?
00:15:50
Speaker
That's their version of of Big Show versus fucking what's QT Marshall QT Marshall. Yeah. Well, it's a one contender match. So Justice is going to get a shot at the the circle six title against I guess it's still what's his name. It's belong. I mean, it's not Atticus, is it? No, it's not. It's not. It went along. It's once.
00:16:21
Speaker
Zach Wentz. Oh, Zach Wentz. Yeah. He was back in impact when I was 12 years. Impact, a place where if CM Punk really loves this business, he could go wrestle. It's true. It's true. I bet they'd hire his friend too.
00:16:40
Speaker
Oh, fuck, yeah, they would. I mean, like, if he really loves this business and it's not just for money, like, I think it probably is. Yeah. And W.A. wouldn't mind having him impact Billy Corgan or Chicago guys, right? They need a new top guy because Tyros lost a loser must retire match to EC3.
00:17:02
Speaker
EC3 versus CM Punk, you finally figured out a way that I'm gonna get excited about a CM Punk match. Who's more interested in controlling their narrative than CM Punk? Am I right? Am I right? He loves his narrative. He's very focused on his narrative. He's a very progressive guy, but his narrative does need some controlling. This has been such

CM Punk's Firing and Wrestling Legacy

00:17:28
Speaker
a bizarre week of just people bickering.
00:17:34
Speaker
It's been a lot of fighting. Yeah, it's been a weird, I feel like the wrestling world's in a weird space right now because there's a lot of people who don't really understand, I don't know, corporate workplaces and law. Like, I don't know exactly what CM Punk did, their stories, but if you can fire someone with cause for that much money,
00:18:04
Speaker
probably did some pretty crazy shit that's pretty clearly on tape. It just doesn't happen otherwise. He definitely did something that was truly heinous on videotape. It sucks that we're not gonna see that tape. We are definitely not, yeah. Tony Khan's got way too many lawyers. Yeah, I mean, somebody at Wembley maybe could get us that tape.
00:18:34
Speaker
Uh, but yeah, it's really created a divide, uh, between people who want to punch their boss and think you can and still continue to work. It's really a wrestling fantasy. Like it's a story. Right. Yeah. Except, except when stone cold did it, they talked about it in advance and, um, stone cold never threatened to not wrestle in front of 80,000 people.
00:19:04
Speaker
Didn't happen. Oh, Samoa Joe, the true locker room leader, he has got that man to go out there. Oh, I mean, all this, I guess, is I don't know. I guess. But although, come on, can you imagine how difficult it must have been for Joe to give that speech dipshit? There's 80,000 people out there. Stop yelling at stop yelling at the famous actor's son. Let's wrestle the match.
00:19:33
Speaker
Let's just do that. Can we do that? Can we do that? There's 80, you and I wrestled in front of 12 people in a barn in Indiana. Can we fucking wrestle in front of 80,000 people together? Let's do that, come on, come on. Let's go, out. So Tony said he feared for his life. Do you think it's possible that CM Punk went to the locker room, got in Cash Wheeler's bag,
00:20:04
Speaker
What's amazing about this is we know Tony, Tony's been to the ECW arena, which means he's been around new Jack and this is the first time he feared for his life. I mean, cause the Bambam Bigelow Darkside, they tell that story about Bambam's kid who was like eight getting like just like
00:20:25
Speaker
punched by someone at the ECW arena. So at the ECW arena, Tony was like, ah, I'm okay here. CM punks around. He's like, this is a very dangerous place.
00:20:36
Speaker
The funniest meme I saw was what happened when, seeing a punk in front of Tony Khan. And it was a scene from the very beginning of the movie Tommy Boy with Chris Farley, where Chris Farley is running to get to class full speed.

Brian Danielson's Strap Match Highlight

00:20:53
Speaker
And there's a very small man in the middle of the sidewalk who basically just starts crying and cowering as he's getting charged by Chris Farley. And that is, oh my God,
00:21:06
Speaker
I mean, maybe, I don't know, maybe I kiss Tony Khan's ass too much sometimes, but he does provide me with a lot of things I would genuinely like to see as a wrestling fan, and I was never a punk guy, so I don't know, I'm probably the wrong person to talk about this, but I don't know. I feel like I was a punk guy for a long time, and I just, it's all, and I still, look, I still like watching the guy wrestle.
00:21:35
Speaker
Just some of this stuff the last year has just sort of eroded over time. We're just like, I don't know, man. Like these other guys came along and they also gave me a lot of entertainment. And also it's like, this is the thing that Punk sort of maybe has never fully accepted, right? Which is that he basically got replaced by Daniel Bryan in WWE and Daniel Bryan actually got to be a champ and do all those things multiple times. And this weekend he got replaced by Daniel Bryan
00:22:05
Speaker
who probably had a better strap match with Ricky Starks than Punk was going to. Certainly a more violent and visceral one. Because I want to point this out. We just talked about the Circle Six show that I watched. That was very violent. And maybe it's because I'd had an edible when we watched it all out together.

Miro's AEW Performance and Storyline

00:22:25
Speaker
But the
00:22:27
Speaker
visceralness of Daniel Bryan and us, Brian Danielson and Ricky Starks just whipping the fuck out of each other with belts. Sweet Lord. I, it was, it was like a whole, I was like, am I like hallucinating this? Like they can't possibly be hitting each other this goddamn hard. Sweet Lord.
00:22:48
Speaker
There were a couple there that it's like some apologies were owed at the end of that match. There is no way Ricky Starks wanted to get hit in the mouth that many times. No, but I think Brian was just like, this is how you get it back by hitting me. This is how this works. And he never, he did hit him hard, but he never returned the favor as hard as Daniel Bryan was never afraid of hitting Ricky Starks. There was never a moment where it didn't seem like
00:23:19
Speaker
I want to just keep saying Daniel Bryan. I don't care. It's a dragon. American dragon. Yeah. The dragon had it turned up to 10 every time he hit that man. And it felt like he was getting hazed. Maybe he was. Maybe he was like, I hear you. I hear you're you're good enough friends with with CM Punk to be on collision.
00:23:46
Speaker
You want to be on the new version, Dragon gets to hit you in the mouth of the strap and choke you out. I mean, he choked him out. That was, I was gritty. It was gritty.
00:23:58
Speaker
The face, I mean, yeah, the face that he was making while he was choking him. I mean, it was a horror show. There was there was a certain point where we're like, you're not even selling anymore, man. Like just quit. You don't even have to sell it this hard. Like we believe that this fucking sucks. I don't think you can sell how like sell yourself into your face going that purple.
00:24:22
Speaker
That is exactly what we said. We're like, Oh my God, he is turning a different color. Selling is just overkill at this point. Like you, you are going to pass out. Oh, it was something I was, it was a great show. Like it was, I mean,
00:24:41
Speaker
It seems like our friends that were in the building, cause I know you, me and facts watched it together online from three different locations. So all of us had the volume down and I feel like we missed really how hot the crowd was. Right. Especially for the Hobbs and Miro match. Cause our friends who were there were basically like, that was one of the greatest crowds I've ever been in. Like the, the cheering, the meaty men, you know, slap that meat and.
00:25:13
Speaker
Yeah, that was really great. Like even for us who had I mean, I didn't even hear them the beef chance or whatever they were. They were chanting. But that was one that at a certain point, we all quit talking and just zeroed in on that. I mean, when was the last time Miro got to wrestle fifteen and a half minutes on a pay per view? Long time. I don't know, full gear 2021. I don't know.
00:25:43
Speaker
a long time ago. Cause he had that match with Danielson that was kind of long. That might've been the last one that I, it's the last one I remember, certainly. Like, I don't know if he did anything in WWE that went that long. Like he was very much a just get in there and choke them out kind of guy. So I don't know. This is the kind of match I was hoping we would get to see Miro have eventually in AEW. So it was very refreshing to have, I mean,
00:26:13
Speaker
one of the most entertaining big man matches of the last decade. And Lana's back. They haven't named her yet, but it's Lana. They have. Her name was on the monitor. It was hot and flexible. Which is the greatest. Like, did she choose that? Did Tony do it? If Tony chose that. He kept saying it, right? He kept saying, like, my hot, flexible wife, right? And the promos.
00:26:40
Speaker
I think it's just that it's just that we've she's acknowledging we understand from if we believe Miro, she is hot and flexible. I was going to say if Tony did that, I think he could also be fired with cause. Tony. Did you watch? Did you watch the sexual harassment training? We don't talk about anyone being hot and or flexible.
00:27:07
Speaker
He was so upset with her interfering, his hot, flexible wife. Yeah, he seemed mad about that. I'm not mad that CJ Perry's in AEW. I'm curious where they're going with this. I want to know where the story's going. She was such a good manager in WWE. I mean, she was so good for years as his partner.
00:27:31
Speaker
Well, they also, and that's the thing, like, I feel like WWE got bored and they were like, well, I guess she's got to manage other people. We've got to do this thing. It's like, no, no, no. Like it's the two of them. The two of them are a pair. They have a story together. I want to see the two of them together. I don't really care to see like character development for her. That's like, or him really not like, like the, as a pair, like the two of them just kind of work together and like do that. Just do that.
00:27:57
Speaker
Follow that out. And already you're yelling at Tony because he seems to be breaking them up immediately. Well, but I don't know. I think this is a story about him redeeming himself so that he's good enough for his hot, flexible wife. Gotcha. Gotcha. I think you are a hero. Your hot, flexible wife loves you enough to come hit the beefy boy at a very big match for you. You've been redeemed.
00:28:24
Speaker
Yeah, the only match on this card I missed, I tuned in too late to see the opener, the better than you, baby versus dark order. Uh, did you end up, did you catch that? I did. It was fine. I mean, they did the thing with MJF kind of selling the neck and doing the, I mean, I thought that was, it was a solid match. Um, I think the again, it's still a weird use of those two guys on a pay-per-view, but
00:28:51
Speaker
You know, move the angle forward. I'm curious. I'm very curious what the kind of the, I'm not that interested, you know, generally speaking in the business stuff at the end of the day,

MJF and Adam Cole's Crowd Engagement

00:29:00
Speaker
it's just numbers. And as long as I can keep working, but I'm curious, like how, what they did in terms of buys when they couldn't weren't selling those two guys in a big match when they're the most two over guys in the company. Yeah. The other thing I will say is.
00:29:15
Speaker
Watching them the last few weeks, I feel like they've interestingly gotten to a place that the last people I feel like I recall being there were the elite in like 2018, where they could take the dumbest shit and just be like, if I commit to this bit, it'll get over. Like think about how many people, how many bits and freaking people the elite, I mean, just, they committed to Flip Gordon, you know?
00:29:43
Speaker
That man had a career because of them. Um, but just like the kangaroo kick thing, which is just stupid, right? I mean, there's nothing clever, but he's like, the kangaroo kick is a thing. And if I take seriously the kangaroo kick, people will get into it. And there are, there are people screaming fucking kangaroo kick popped 81,000 people out of their seats in the pre-show. Yeah. For a kangaroo kick.
00:30:08
Speaker
Did he do that? Is he still doing the kangaroo check? That wasn't just for Ozzy open. Nope, nope. Now it's just a thing. Did the kangaroo. I kind of love that that sticking around because it really worked. It worked great. And did you see did you see the promo with him and Joe this week on on Dynamite? I didn't. Well, it seems like those two may have some some things to say to each other. That's it. That's a fun. That's a fun matchup.
00:30:37
Speaker
I agree. It's also interesting because it's, I feel like the first full confirmation of like, yeah, we're turning MGF babyface. Like that's because him, that's not a tweener move. Him versus Joe is MGF is the babyface in the match. Yeah. What else on this card? I mean, other than obviously the main event, what do you, I mean, Takesha and Omega was pretty incredible. That was good.
00:31:05
Speaker
Um, it's how, where are you with him? Like, do you think he's as, is he working for you as much as they want him to be? Yeah. Um, I guess the whole him and callus thing is working. I don't know about him alone yet, but I think it's working fairly well. I guess I'm also curious. They said next week they're going to reveal their next target. Um,
00:31:32
Speaker
I'm curious how far up the card they're trying to get him in the sense that like, I definitely buy him as the sort of like upper mid card guy. I don't know if I buy him as a main eventer yet, but I kind of, I buy where they're going with him and I think they're getting there.
00:31:53
Speaker
I think it's going to take a little bit of time to wash the stink off of like how many losses he took in 2022, just like having the close matches and losing. But I think they're going to get, I think they're going to get there with him. I mean, getting two pens on Kenny Omega is a good way to, to start getting people to forget that. I'm looking for the longest match of the night. Oh yeah. Um,
00:32:22
Speaker
In the main event, fucking Orange and Mox and I loved Mox's promo on collision. Like it really, again, a perfect pro wrestling promo of respect for your opponent and building them up while also getting you excited to see them base each other. Just wonderful. So that was a very likely not the main event planned for the show.
00:32:51
Speaker
I think it was Starks and Punk was the plan. And I don't, I mean, it's kind of hard to picture them not as the main event.

Orange Cassidy's AEW Main Event Achievement

00:33:02
Speaker
having seen what they were, I mean, I think we knew what they would have been capable of doing. But seeing, I don't know, there was just some really great Orange Cassidy moments in there where, you know, he's bloody, and then he goes over and starts doing his little kicks, but then immediately just turns them into really vicious stomps. I don't know, he looked like a fucking badass. He defended that title for what, nearly a year?
00:33:32
Speaker
Yeah, and I actually think, again, a little bit of dumb luck here, right, that they didn't know CM Punk was gonna go nuts and get fired. But I really do think having that match where Orange finally loses the title as the main event of the show really kind of cemented a lot of things and worked, right? It was sort of the payoff for all the work that Orange did. And I think it was a real moment for people who've been following Orange Cassidy's career for five years.
00:34:02
Speaker
Who were there when people were like this guy's gonna be an AW the joke the funny ha ha Like slacker guy and it was like no this guy's really good like he'll find a role here you know the people who believed and Look, I think a lot of people believe that Orange Cassidy had a space in AW would get over an AW I don't know how many people realistically if you'd asked them three and a half years ago were like This guy's gonna main event in AW vapor view
00:34:32
Speaker
I think everyone kind of felt like that gimmick had some kind of ceiling somewhere. And I think he proved that there's, that he doesn't, there's no ceiling to this. And I particularly enjoy also, he is Orange Cassidy and he does not have a catchphrase.
00:34:51
Speaker
That's fucking great. Which is such a great catchphrase. Terrible shirt. Terrible T-shirt. Terrible shirt. But great. I love him saying that. But yeah, when you look at who gets the biggest reactions in this company, MJF and Punk, and then honestly, Cassidy and Moxley are probably... Yeah. And Brian. Least top four. I mean, that reaction to Final Countdown,
00:35:19
Speaker
that was another Alzheimer of like, yeah. Yeah, I guess it's actually nice that they have, and then you could throw Omega in there as well, but at least like six guys that could have filled those spots. All of whom I like better than Punk at this point. I will point, all of whom I would have above, if I'm picking, do I see a match? I would have all of them, I think at this point, above.
00:35:48
Speaker
Punk would be close with like Cole, basically. Cole would be towards the bottom of my list of that group. Okay. But, you know, I feel like he would land kind of like that Eddie Kingston range too. Yeah. Oh, Eddie. I love with it. I feel like we are finally going to get to Eddie and Claudio and I like the build to this where I'm curious if they're going to do that.
00:36:18
Speaker
Cause they could do that at Grand Slam. And that would be fucking awesome to see in New York, Kingston and Claudio. That would be a good place to do it for sure. I was going to say like also maybe wrestle dream just because it, is that technically a pay-per-view? Is that what that is? I think so. The other option would be if they really held it off, cause they said the next ROH show was going to be final battle. If they did final battle at the Hammerstein.
00:36:45
Speaker
Um, that would be a pretty awesome place to do that. But I don't know. That'd be a long, long wait. But yeah, no, that I don't know. I yeah. It it had to not feel good to be seeing punk after that pay per view and see that like.
00:37:04
Speaker
I mean, like I said, I didn't have the audio on, but the show seems to be incredibly well-received by those in attendance and those at home. The people of Chicago didn't hijack the show chanting for CM Punk. I don't think any other city's going to. Yeah, you're not getting that in Louisville. Yeah. Fine. The other thing I noticed, you know, about Cassidy and Mox as they were coming out, not many, but both guys,
00:37:34
Speaker
maybe one of the first AEW main events where this is the case, licensed music, right? You've got these big songs that help make the, it's part of the overall thing I love about AEW is that they're willing to do that on a regular basis and be like, no, no, no. Yeah, this costs more, but this feels like a bigger deal because Orange Cassidy isn't coming out to random music X. He's coming out to Jane and it's the exact song that fits that character. It's literally the inspiration of that character.
00:38:04
Speaker
And then Mox is coming out to Wild Thing because he's descendant of, you know, of Oneida. Although with Terry Funk on, I feel like either he, either Mox or Eddie Kingston should start coming out to Desperado. I just feel, maybe it should be Eddie. Maybe just Eddie just wandering out with crazy eyes to Desperado.
00:38:31
Speaker
Why don't you really come to your senses? He walks so fast to the ring. Do you really want to license it for such such a small use of it? You just you run that song during the match like he's new Jack, but it's just it's just Don Henley over and over again, the Eagles, you know.
00:38:57
Speaker
Yeah, I don't know. Maybe it should be Mox, but he also walks a little bit too fast. That was kind of the perfect thing because like everyone else in ECW was more like intense and you know, funks coming out to Desperado kind of like ambling out like going, you know, and just, and it worked. And like grown men are just shedding a tear. Grown men who hate the Eagles.
00:39:21
Speaker
who are like, fuck the Eagles. The only Eagles I care about are the football team. But they're like, look, Terry Funk walks out in Desperado. Tears come out of his face. You pay some fucking respect. Pay some goddamn respect. Which we didn't get to talk about that. Terry, we lost Terry. And I mean, it's funny. Someone, I had like an ECW bag at a party a couple of days afterwards. And someone was like, oh, so sad, man, Funk. And I was like, well,
00:39:51
Speaker
Or maybe he even said tragic or something. Ah, tragic. You know, like, well, you know, he was 79. He lived a good life. I think I don't know if anyone was surprised, but it is something sad about losing Terry Funk in this world of like that energy of, you know, forever.

Tribute to Terry Funk

00:40:07
Speaker
You know, it did seem like that guy was going to be here forever. I don't know. He just, what was going to take down Terry Funk, you know?
00:40:16
Speaker
I mean, we watched my first wrestling show, that Thunder, where he wrestled twice. And as a kid, I think in my mind then, he was as old as he was when he passed. He just, he felt immortal. And it does suck to lose somebody who's that high up, that big of a fucking legend. I mean, it feels as bad as I would have felt the night that Ric Flair almost died.
00:40:45
Speaker
Um, it's also because someone was talking about like how if the thing with funk, right? He may be, he might be the greatest of all time, but certainly he is of the candidates for greatest of all time. He is the one where you'll find the least people I've never heard anyone go. I mean, Terry funk, not really that great.
00:41:10
Speaker
he covers so many bases like maybe you're not an ECW guy but then maybe you're like oh yeah you watch those matches with like Jack Briscoe when they're fucking incredible or you watch what he did with Hogan and it's awesome or you like that's like funk covers so much ground or oh you got to watch him and Dory in in Japan and you got to do like or the matches with flair or like
00:41:33
Speaker
He's got you covered from every angle. If there's any kind of wrestling fan that you are, you like some era, probably love some era of the Terry Funk career. It's kind of an incredible thing that, it's hard to duplicate. Even someone like Flair or Bret Hart or Danielson, there are people who will say, well, they couldn't do this. You can find people who will go the other side on them.
00:42:02
Speaker
I can't find it, I've never found a single person to be like, ah, funk, overrated, you know, just. You might be the first person who've ever spoken those words just now. Right, and I can clearly ingest.
00:42:18
Speaker
if any of Terry's friends are listening to click very ingest. No, Terry Funk very much properly rated as one of the greatest of all time. And then the next day we lost Bray, which is sort of a crazy, just kind of a very sad, cause it's so young and just sort of so out of the blue and sort of, yeah, a weird time for wrestling, I think, you know.
00:42:44
Speaker
Yeah, we definitely hit another weird period of wrestling where there was just so much going on in such a short period of time where, I don't know, it was like, it was kind of like basically that whole time of COVID where every day is a new piece of news where you're having to process to where you can't process everything. This was kind of that for wrestling fans over the span of the last week and a half or two weeks.
00:43:10
Speaker
Yeah, it's been all, yeah, it's just, I don't know if anyone's fully processed the craziness. And again, like in the middle of all this, AEW doing 80,000 people, the most paid tickets at a wrestling show, apparently of all time, like it just sort of, yeah, like, you know, it's been a wild sort of like few weeks in the wrestling world.
00:43:40
Speaker
It's gonna be an interesting fall too, I think. Can I keep you? What do we have? So we have full gear coming up in Los Angeles in November. We have the wrestle dream coming up. I mean, are there any other company pay-per-views? Is there any other big matches, anything that we have on the horizon that we're actively looking forward to? That's a good question.
00:44:10
Speaker
I guess you have Grand

Upcoming GCW Events Preview

00:44:11
Speaker
Slam coming up. I got Grand Slam, and I'm going to GCW on Sunday in Brooklyn. We're gonna see with that. That's got some fun things. Which I think we can assume who the mystery partner is in that six man. I mean, we got some guesses here. You know, it's MDK all fucking day. Come on. Yeah. Come on. Who else? You got Rina versus Speedball. Speedball.
00:44:36
Speaker
Yeah. There's a couple of fun ones on there. Like, there's definitely like, it's a card. Charles Mason. I think it's holiday. You're two stops from the venue from your house. Oh, it's like not that. This is not the Melrose. This is at a place called Roulette Intermedium in Brooklyn. It's near where I used to live in Park Slope over by the Barclays Center. OK. So kind of a long train ride for me.
00:45:07
Speaker
an easy one. And, you know, I, uh, I'm curious, the venue looked cool. And, uh, I think it's going to be interesting. I'm going to go hang out with, uh, professor Tom. It's his first wrestling show since they had a baby. So that's going to be a good one for him. Yeah. Yeah. We were talking, I was like, Hey, do you,
00:45:26
Speaker
Like the seats are kind of expensive. We could do GA, but I also understand if you want to spend the extra money because you had a baby and you're tired and he's like, nah, GA sounds good. I'm like, okay. Okay. We'll see. If you're, if you're curled up in the corner by the, uh, by match three, I'll, I'll understand friendship. Maki Ito and killer Kelly. Maki Ito and killer Kelly. Yeah.
00:45:51
Speaker
Coughlin and Janela. Let's see. You got Effie and Allie there. There's Misesos. You got a lot of good stuff. That's going to be a fun one. Yeah. Nick Wayne and Jordan Oliver. Hell yeah. Sorry. Nick Wayne. Nick Wayne and his little guy. Sorry. Yeah. Yeah. Did you happen to see, so you know, GCW's headed to Corrigan. Yes.
00:46:19
Speaker
Did you see they're bringing Vikingo to Japan? Ooh, very interesting. Do you still have that interesting- There's plenty of Japanese restaurants there as I would. Yeah. Yeah. Do you think maybe, uh, maybe Despy shows up, maybe with Jun Kasai? I mean, is that before their war games? He would- After. The week after. You would think, Despy, if they're in town, Despy would probably want to come hang.
00:46:48
Speaker
Yeah. Plus in, in, uh, the UK, they're doing Janela against blue cane. I, okay. So what I don't understand, I've seen me. Who is that's the whole thing. I have no clue. I don't think anyone knows he's just blue cane. Okay. And Janela's going to wrestle him. Janela living out exactly what Joey Janela's career should be. He's hitting all.
00:47:17
Speaker
We still haven't heard anything about him and knobs for WrestleMania weekend though. I'm all disappointed. Come on guys.
00:47:23
Speaker
Guys, do we need to be talking to Circle Six and see if we can sponsor a match? I saw that Joey and Gage are gonna be wrestling in Germany too, which I know we've seen them at some point, but honestly it's been so long now that that's actually, that's a fun matchup. I bet those two have a lot of fun in Germany. Yeah. Germans love Nick Gage.
00:47:54
Speaker
Oh, they're taking Becca to Germany. I love the Becca's getting more work. Yeah, Becca's, uh, coming into her own here, you know, going to be a star going to be singing around the world. I actually want to go back. I think the, uh, the MLW show from this weekend had a, had a rematch of Becca and Maki Ito. Oh, cool. Yeah. Um,
00:48:22
Speaker
There were a couple other, I haven't watched that, but there are a couple other interesting things I wanted to check out on that. Oh, and I should also point out for those who, I caught a little bit of Effie's big gay brunch because my former XSW pal, Sassy Boatwright made her GCW debut, made their GCW debut. Sorry.
00:48:42
Speaker
And our buddy Matt, I need to look through, he told me there was a match from Big Gay Brunch that he said was not just like one of the best matches of the weekend, but one of the best matches he had ever witnessed live. Let me. I was admittedly skimming to get to Sazzy's match. I wanted to see, um, I wanted to see my old pal tear it up on, on the, on the fight network. Um,
00:49:12
Speaker
Good match though. Good match. It wasn't, uh, it was, uh, an eight person match where they brought in, it was New York versus mid the Midwest, which was fun. Um, they put the Midwest over whatever. Um, but actually one of my other neighbors is Rico Gonzales. Okay. I will check, I will check that out too. Go back and check that out. Um, yeah, they had the, um,
00:49:37
Speaker
The eight man, the Midwest side had one of my favorites from last year, Mateo Valentine. He was just such a unique and kind of fun worker. He was a fan of, a fan of his and it's good to see him again. Um, yeah, but it's, uh, it's interesting. Like I feel, yeah, I'm not sure when I'm, I'm looking forward, I will say I'm looking forward to wrestle kingdom. I feel like new Japan week to week.
00:50:02
Speaker
is less fun than it used to be, but I feel like when they're like lining it all up and knocking it down, like, you know, we're going to have a fun, a fun weekend with that. Um, but yeah, and there was also not a lot, I guess not a lot announced in New York after these September shows. I'm sure someone will do something. I'll get to go to some shows. I guess there's an MLW show in December. We'll see that's close to my house. I'll probably try to go.
00:50:31
Speaker
Okay. That's one that you're like, I'll get on the train to go see Ricky, Shane page fight fatu or somebody. Yeah. Well, I think, and I feel like their roster has gotten a little better recently. I like, I like where they've been going with who they've been bringing in. And, um, yeah. Is anything coming to Nashville in the short term? Um,
00:50:53
Speaker
trying to think if I've seen anything. I feel like the only company I see that's coming through every now and then goes to Broadway and it's micro wrestling based out of Gatlinburg, which is Lil Guys. Okay, that does not sound great. It doesn't, it doesn't. Especially if it's on Broadway, it sounds like you would get the overflow from Kid Rock's Honky Tonk, making fun of them short fellers.
00:51:21
Speaker
Yeah, it really feels like it's not gonna be nice. It doesn't seem like it's gonna be kind. It's not gonna be good spirit. Is Alberto Del Rio coming back to that Mexican joint anytime soon? The last show they put on actually looked really good, but it's shockingly expensive.
00:51:45
Speaker
The Mexican, the flying shows are always really, I always noticed that when they do the one in Queens and I'm like, oh, I could go to that. And I'm like, how much is the ticket? It's like general admission, $50. And you're like, I don't know about that.
00:51:59
Speaker
Well, that was, yeah, this one that just came, I remember, I'm trying to remember who was on the card. Maybe it was like Grand Metalique and like Black Taurus was definitely there, but it was like, you know, a handful of guys that you've seen and enjoy. And in my mind, I'm like, oh, what is this gonna cost me? Like 15, 20 bucks to go stand at the back? And that sounds like a good night. And then I see it's like $65.
00:52:25
Speaker
And I'm like, this is I mean, I guess you got to fly all those guys. I hope this means they're getting paid. You know, but I don't know, like that's one that like 30 bucks maybe, but 65 or whatever. I don't know that just it felt like too much. Yeah. Yeah. I also haven't caught I haven't caught hog in a while because they keep running like Friday nights instead of Saturdays. I'd much prefer the six o'clock Saturday shows.
00:52:54
Speaker
I'm hoping to see got announced for hog They've been nice and a lot of guys they had Homicide they just announced for wrestling sunny kiss actually sunny kiss to yes, right. Yes, honey kiss for the next show I'm curious. I'm curious if a ew does I'm hoping they announced another collision at some point soon so I can take Maddie again and We can hopefully see the Aussie open fellas
00:53:20
Speaker
Matti, very disappointed. Matti, very disappointed seeing Ozzy open to do the job to Chris Jericho and Sammy Guevara. I mean, a lot of people were. Yeah, a lot of people were. With the appropriate reaction, you.
00:53:37
Speaker
She was OK. She was OK seeing them lose to MJF and Cole. I think she was like, those guys seem those guys seem kind of fun, too. I think she's intrigued because they're friends, but they also they're kind of enemies, but also kind of friends. And she's just I think it tracks a lot. You know, the MJF Cole relationship tracks with her experience of friendship as a five year old. There are a lot of ups and downs and five year old friendships, a lot of ups and downs. You're still learning to trust.
00:54:07
Speaker
there's a non-zero chance that your best friend is gonna put a ring on and pop you in the face, you know? Yeah, completely out of nowhere, unprovoked. Yeah, unprovoked. And it's not even for a title belt, you know? It's just for some Legos. But they'll do the kangaroo kick, you think, Garrett? Yeah, well, oh yeah, I was gonna say, you know, like,
00:54:36
Speaker
That makes you sad, but then they hop around like a kangaroo and all is forgiven. Right. Oh yeah. Maddie's best friend and her, they're frenemies. They, they go back and forth. They, they, it's really, again, it's very much like colon MJF. They've turned on each other. You can watch them over the course of an evening, turn on each other, then reunite and just. You got to teach Maddie to do a kip up. Work on that.
00:55:02
Speaker
All right, Matty, let's lay on this mat here. Can you do it? Can you show me, Daddy? No. No. Daddy's gonna hurt himself. How do you feel about the motivations in that angle? I'm curious to get your take on this. In the MJF, Cole just being buddies, but one guy just really wants it, and the other guy also just really wants it.
00:55:32
Speaker
I guess I mean the going back where they're constantly fighting the urge to turn on each other it seems. Or go like. It's super worked for me in the match. I don't know how long I can watch them do that. If that's gonna get drug out for months. But in the main event match, it very much worked for me in a big bad way. Yeah.
00:56:00
Speaker
How long though is that going to get drug out where we're watching Roddy and the kingdom and I don't know. Yeah. I kind of, my feeling was kind of, it's like a classic example of the way wrestling can work in a funny way where like, if you try to chart out over the course of that match, the like shifting feelings.
00:56:24
Speaker
I mean, I guess again, it does happen to five year olds where it shifts around like this, but it is, it felt a little bit to me, like kind of. If you plotted it out, it would kind of read like gibberish, but at the same time I'm with you. It was incredibly effective and worked like something about wrestling where just that feeling of like not knowing what's going to happen next and teasing something that logically like, well, wait a minute. Like if you were, if you actually do want to be his friend, you're definitely not going to punch him with a ring on your hand.
00:56:53
Speaker
But that sort of feeling back and forth, it felt very attitude era to me in a good way. Where if you look at a lot of the attitude era twists and turns, sometimes if you're like, you can't chart a clear course of why exactly this happened this way.
00:57:11
Speaker
people reacted every time. This isn't a fiction writing course in college. It's about getting people to react and it's working. But it's interesting to me that sometimes I feel like we give it a little too much credit because it's working. And you're like, it's brilliant. And it's like, well, I guess kind of, but not quite. Yeah.
00:57:35
Speaker
I think I just with that, I never was able to picture babyface MJF or what MJF could do motivation wise to make sense as a baby face, because we've never even seen a little bit of that out of him. I mean, I guess maybe when Punk was being really mean to him. Yeah, I mean, I think going back to even the early things in in AEW, they did plant the seeds with the promo about like
00:58:05
Speaker
Um, the antisemitism early on, I was going to say that part. Yeah. You know, where they've kind of been laying, that's one of the reasons why I think it's working is they've kind of laid the crumbs all along. And then they did this moment where he was like, Oh, what I really needed kind of was a friend. And I've always, that's what I've, I've been putting up these walls kind of thing. And I have think that to an extent that's, it is kind of work kind of nicely to do that. And.
00:58:36
Speaker
kind of like fully embrace the character, without changing the character too much, just tweak it, just enough. That I think has been impressive, that aspect has been impressive. And when you think back to like how long ago that, like the anti-Semitism storyline started and everything that's happened in between, it really, like now I'm sitting here thinking like, goddamn, they really fleshed him out.
00:59:04
Speaker
as a person, like you know his backstory now, you know everything, like we've really, I don't know, you don't get that with a lot of people, like at least that far back where you get the villain origin story, you get kind of everything out of him. Right, yeah, and I think it's interesting, he's become
00:59:28
Speaker
I think kind of an, especially even for like a kid, kind of an oddly relatable character. Like he's cutting this promo on Wednesday and talking about basically Samoa Joe kind of bullying him when he was, um, you know, an extra and NXT and stuff like that. And I think he kind of, he kind of easily explained to a kid like, Oh yeah, like this guy. He's a little bit mean, but it's kind of because this other guy was mean to him when he was like, why, why did he do that? Well, he was kind of, he was being a bully. He was being.
00:59:56
Speaker
You know, um, and there's a certain logic to the character. And I kind of, what I kind of hope they do is just kind of drop the like, will they, won't they thing and just kind of go full mega powers. Let them. Let them. Oh, sorry. Yeah. Let them just go. Just. Hmm.
01:00:17
Speaker
I know I'd see a portion of the internet that hates how often AEW references WWE.
01:00:28
Speaker
but I do kind of like that wrestling exists within the same universe, where we can use this Samoa Joe moment that happened six years ago, however long ago, you know, and make that something now. Like everything kind of can cross over and bleed together. And I think it's very, I think it's just very modern. You know what I mean? I think it's a very, it's the admission that yeah, people found that clip.
01:00:57
Speaker
You know what I mean? And they were sharing it. And so why can't we acknowledge it and talk about it? And also, though, in other ways, though, it's old school, right? Because in the territory days, you built guys up by showing matches from other places and talking about how this guy's been a champion everywhere he's went. And, you know, these people, Abdul of the Butcher and Bruiser Brody have been fighting all over the world and kind of things.
01:01:19
Speaker
Again, it's this thing where a whole generation of people grew up in the WWE monopoly where WWE is super weird about mentioning all these things. And they think that's normal as opposed to just Vince is weird and does that. And it's worked for him. And I'm not saying it was bad in that regard, but it's not the only way to do things. And the other way is equally valid. It could be better or worse in certain circumstances. And I'm not saying it's 100% one is the other, but you know,
01:01:49
Speaker
It's just another way to do things. And sometimes an effective one. Again, I think in this one, I think it was quite effective. The idea of, because you could see, I think they really kind of let it shine through the way that it was still affecting it. It was still sort of impacting the dynamic between them.
01:02:17
Speaker
I and I'm interested to see that match now. I'm interested to see it could happen at Grand Slam. I'd be into that. If it's MJF and Roddy at Grand Slam, I'd be into that. You know, because you for sure get an MJF title match that is they made that 100 percent clear. The title winner is. The tournament winner wrestles MJF at Grand Slam. Also, there can do a four way in one of the
01:02:46
Speaker
There's going to be a women's title match. They've announced that. Okay. Um, most likely. I think it's got to be Tony storm, right? It's got to be like, it's almost a something that pay-per-view, but I'd be very excited to see Tony storm in, um, a, uh, a title match against Saraya her promo this week. Have you seen the Tony storm promo or the clip?
01:03:11
Speaker
No, I did. Honestly, I didn't really see anything from from any of the TV shows this week. Oh, man. It was spectacular. Just really just like she's really like deep into this character. And it's just let me just send you. Oh, there's somewhere there's a
01:03:39
Speaker
Not on, why can't I find the same? Anyway, you know, but she says to him, you know, she says to Renee, she's like, lips up, up straight, tits out, and you know what they say, hips up, tits straight, tits out and watch for the shoe. And Renee's like, watch for the shoe. And just like from off camera, just the shoe just comes whizzing past Renee's head. She's just like, come on.
01:04:09
Speaker
Um, I love Tony storm. She's, she's great. Again, cause it's interesting. It's funny how this has turned me around in her. Cause I was really not into her running a W for a while. It just didn't feel like it was working for me, but this character is brilliant. I'm fully in. I was going to say both you and facts were pretty down on Tony storm. And, uh, this really seems to have changed everything. It's perfect. It's terrific. Um, yeah.
01:04:41
Speaker
Before we get out of here, because I feel like we are getting close to ramping up, I walked out of a movie today.

Mission Impossible Walk-Out Anecdote

01:04:52
Speaker
Mission Impossible 7 has been in theaters for nine weeks.
01:04:58
Speaker
And I thought, today's the day. I'm gonna go see this movie. And this movie opened with three things that turned me off so much in movies. It was like they hit me with a hat trick of my least favorite things in the first 15 minutes in such a way that it felt like they were pranking me. I don't like submarines.
01:05:25
Speaker
I'm with you, it tends to be pretty stupid in movies. Don't really care about them that much. They're stuck in the metal penis. There's not a lot of room. They can't do much. They move slow. It's a boring fight. I don't care about a submarine. The movie opens in a submarine. And I was like, this sucks. I don't know. I was like, this is testing my patience. I'm next seen immediately. Like 18 guys on horses riding through the desert. Not a big horsey guy.
01:05:53
Speaker
So I'm like, already, two for two. And they're like, how do we knock this out of the park? How about we have a bunch of government officials sitting around a conference table hitting me with exposition? And I was like, goddamn, this is the worst 15 minutes you could have ever given me. I hear the movie's great. I'll never know. I left. I left.
01:06:22
Speaker
that it well you know i mean sometimes you just got to know when to go sometimes you just got to know it's it's time i thought it was the universe's way of telling me there's somewhere else for you to be right now yeah you've got beers to go eat carrot

WrestleMania 40 'Eating Beers' Plan

01:06:49
Speaker
Oh, and you better believe when we're in Philadelphia for WrestleMania 40, we're going to be eating beers with as many wrestlers as we can. Maybe it's just hard way heater in an Airbnb, but we're eating beers with somebody. That does seem like something that could be like, I feel like a circle six side game challenge, a beer, a beer eating challenge. Matthew Justice is definitely in.
01:07:18
Speaker
That's such, it's like a pie eating contest with like, how many beers can you eat? And like, everybody's gums are all cut up. We have to get Britt Baker in there to try and fix everybody. So she's there for it. All right, everybody. Thanks so much for tuning in this week. Chris, it was good being back with you. You were there last week, but you were there the week before. Yeah, I previewed things with Heater and then you guys recapped so beautifully. If you haven't listened to last week's show, it was terrific.
01:07:49
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Um, I was very, I'm, I make what, you know, what I hope comes to New York this fall. I hope a circle six bar room blitz. It's New York this fall. Cause I really looked, it looked pretty awesome. And I would really like to see one in person in a New York bar, just chilling. Bring your wife and then you guys podcast about it. Okay. Sounds like a play.
01:08:10
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which it sounds like they should be in New York soon. It sounds like a Casanova's thing that he does there is now possibly associated with circle six. So yeah, I honestly can't recommend those enough. That is just, it's such a different beast of a show and it was, it was fun as hell. Definitely worth, worth your time. Um, but yeah, thanks so much for listening to everybody. We will be back next week. Give us a follow at pre-determined podcast at gartet at Chris makes at
01:08:40
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Jimmy fact. Wait, Jimmy, Jimmy fact. Yeah. I couldn't remember. God. I just want him to switch it to Jimmy Lloyd's IMDB page just at Jimmy Lloyd's IMDB page. Yeah. But I understand that he has a life outside of here and maybe that's not what he wants to do with his Instagram. All right. Everybody hit our goddamn music.