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#62 How to make Lava Bloom mugs w/ Natalee Carr
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On this episode of Shaping Your Pottery we got interview Natalee Carr. Natalee makes really interesting pottery that she calls lava bloom mugs by carving and using underglazes
Top 3 value bombs:
How to make a Lava Bloom Mug
Making pottery with other people and how it helps you grow as a potter.
The power of experimenting.
and so much more
Check out Natalee on Instagram @cabinfeverclayworks
Listen to other episodes here https://www.shapingyourpottery.com/
If you have question about pottery send them to Nic on Instagram @nictorres_pottery
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Transcript
Introduction to Natalie Carr and Pottery
00:00:00
Speaker
Hey everyone, this is Nick Torres here and in this episode, I got to interview Natalie Carr and Natalie makes a wonderful pottery that is really, really incredible. In this episode, you will learn how to make one of Natalie's Lava Blue Mugs, how making pottery with other people can help with your growth and of course, helping you develop your own voice with your pottery.
Influences and Transition to Ceramics
00:00:28
Speaker
Natalie, welcome to Shaping Your Pottery and share with me one thing people might not know about you. Hey, nice to hang out. Yeah, definitely something that someone might not know about me is like I'm really into like vintage and thrifting and like mid-century modern kind of style and design and stuff. So I feel like that definitely gets where my love of like bright colors and kind of just like abstract random stuff kind of comes into play
00:00:57
Speaker
We have a lot of like mid century design style stuff in our homes and it's definitely very in our home and it's definitely very bright and colorful and things like that. And even growing up like my mom is a huge thrifter and stuff. So it's definitely something that I'm always like really passionate about is like a hobby. I guess would be more like a fun thing. That's definitely part of my little personality niche.
00:01:18
Speaker
Absolutely amazing. We're gonna have a wonderful show today. We're gonna talk about your flower blue mugs Lava blue mug. Sorry my my bad and then we're also gonna talk about you discovering your own style and How you and also connecting with other potters and making pottery with them So now can you tell me the story on why you got started with ceramic? I
00:01:44
Speaker
Honestly I've always been like a hobby kind of artsy creative person like I've always had like a little thing on the go but nothing ever really stuck like I have a lot of half finished embroidery hoops and I made jewelry when I was younger like there's lots of little things I've always done.
00:02:00
Speaker
But when I was 18, I went to Australia to nanny. So I worked as an au pair for a little while, which was because I had no idea what I wanted to do after school in high school. And then when I was there nannying, I discovered that I wanted to go to school for wine making. So I live in a really I live in like a wine making geographical region here in Niagara. So I actually came back from Australia and studied wine making for two and a half years.
00:02:25
Speaker
Um, and worked in that for a little bit, uh, which I really love. So there was always something like, I loved it, but it was always something like, I don't know if this is my life forever. Like, I love so many parts about it. Um, but it kind of always was like, yeah, this is good, but I don't know if it's like the most, like, cup filling, you know? Um, so I worked in wine for a few years. I worked in craft beer as well. And then I kind of just started feeling like a little lost in the winter and picked up, like, uh,
00:02:49
Speaker
Like a hobby night class at the local college studio with my mom and just for her and I to meet like halfway 20 minutes, grab dinner and like go to do pottery once a week together. And basically I did it once and I was like, this is my life now. This is it. Like, I like immediately stopped and I was like, I just did this.
00:03:07
Speaker
And I think I was off work for a month at the time. And they had an open studio a couple days a week. But my mom and I only had a three-hour class. And I was there for five hours this day, five hours this day, five hours this day, the class. I was home watching videos all the time. I was planning what I wanted to do. I was really obsessed immediately. And then probably four or six weeks into the class,
00:03:34
Speaker
COVID actually like canceled everything. And then I was just like home and without pottery for a little while. But that's kind of like what started like the excitement for it initially. But honestly, like I immediately I started it. I was like, nope, this is my whole personality, my life, like everything else is canceled. This is this is me now. I do pottery. It's my life. I'm obsessed, basically.
Developing a Unique Style
00:03:53
Speaker
That is absolutely amazing. So now when you were like going in for like five hours a day, how did that help really develop your pottery?
00:04:02
Speaker
It was pretty independently in my head a little bit at that point, too. I think I was feeling a little blue, and I didn't really know what I wanted to do. And it was like I still liked my industry and my field, but again, not really cup filling or whatever. So I was there, and I would just have my headphones in. And everyone around me was over the age of 70, probably. And they were all just doing their thing, and I was doing mine. But it kind of got me experimenting. It was all hands off. So that's the thing, is that the open studio had no teaching. There was a tech there.
00:04:32
Speaker
to answer like, oh, don't put that there kind of thing, like stuff like that. But basically I was just kind of forced to go, what do I do? And I think I was throwing wrong for the first year. Someone actually was like, you're doing this, it's spinning the wrong way for the way that you're doing it.
00:04:46
Speaker
I'm left handed, but I throw right handed, but some of all my emotions were left handed still. So it was like, it was like a learning curve that was kind of probably slower than I would have been if I had a lot of direction. Um, but it forced me to really ask myself questions and try out different techniques. And like all my first pots are very funny and silly and like different and stuff. Cause I was just kind of sitting there going, let's play around. Like there was no expectations. It was just.
00:05:09
Speaker
It was all just for fun. It kind of just forced me to try everything, really. There was a lot of access to different stuff there, and I didn't get anything finished at all because it was kind of canceled halfway. I just worked in wet clay, and then I was dying to get things finished, so I made so much stuff, and then I had no idea what they would look like. It was really interesting. It was a big learning curve, I would say, for sure, but it was fun. You mentioned these questions. What were some of the questions you would ask yourself?
00:05:37
Speaker
I guess it would be more so like things that I would learn as I go in that sense. I would be like, okay, so I saw someone do something like that, or I'm on the wheel, or I'm carving. I was kind of playing around with a lot of underglazes right away because I could see the colors immediately, whereas I'm not just making a green mug and then
00:06:00
Speaker
like waiting for it to be finished because I was never getting finished work back so I would be kind of playing around more with like the underglazes and the clay and stuff and then I would kind of learn like okay so when I put it on really thick like what happens and oh it kind of like bubbles sometimes when it's that color and I would kind of learn those things as I go or like okay so when I put more pressure here like
00:06:17
Speaker
it kind of like forces the pot to go this way and like you kind of like just kind of I was kind of like learning everything and it really clicked for me because I would ask myself like what happens when I do this pretty much every time I would do pottery and it basically was like I learned something I really like fueled me in the initial part of it that still does today was like
00:06:34
Speaker
I learn something every time I do pottery and I feel like I get a little bit better at it every time I do that task. So every time I like attach a handle, it's a little bit more refined or it's like a little bit better dryness or it's like, I just feel like I'm driven to learn something new every time I do it. So I feel like when I was asking myself those questions, I was like fueled by answering them and like
00:06:57
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it working and it being like oh so when I do this it does that and that's why and I was like okay now what else can I do so I was really like fueled by it I guess too which was nice for those that are listening it's really important to just try to experiment with a bunch of stuff because the more you experiment the more you're gonna learn
00:07:16
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there's so many parts of pottery that you can try out. There's so many different facets and there's some that I've never tried before that are fascinating to me, because that's so out of my wheelhouse. Things like soda firing or casting molds and stuff like that. I'm like, oof, even hand building, I get humbled every time I do it. So it's always really interesting to see the difference of the different types of pottery, because there's so many, right?
00:07:43
Speaker
Yep. I totally agree with what you're saying right there. So what has helped you the most with discovering your style that you make today? I guess kind of like part of it is putting in the reps and like that kind of thing that I was saying about like every time I did it, I was.
00:07:59
Speaker
Answered a question that I had before, so I feel like I've been really building off my own style for a little bit now and I'm kind of always comparing myself. More to who I was last month last firing last batch of work, as opposed to.
00:08:16
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like looking at external comparisons because I feel like everyone gets down when they look at everyone else because everyone's doing their highlight reel. Like everyone's posting their highlight reel and you see everyone making all these beautiful pieces, but you don't see their failures. So I like, I really limit my like social media consumption in that way. Like I want to create this massive community and follow everyone in the world and talk to them all. But if I do, I'm just spending all my time. I spend enough time there, you know? So I try to really limit
00:08:44
Speaker
Seeing a lot of other potteries a lot of the time like I follow a lot of potters But in comparison to how many I could follow it feels like nothing because like I admire so many of them but I feel like I just find myself comparing myself to everybody sometimes and I really Turn that off and I just compare myself to what I did last month like I said So it's um, I kind of really try to like sponge off of my own
00:09:06
Speaker
previous work and build off of that. So if I'm looking at like my lava lamp mugs, I'm like, okay, the first one was very simple and it was just kind of like painted on. And then I went from there and I kind of like turned it into a bit of a gradient. And I was like, oh wow, I really like it looks more like a flowy artsy gradient for it. And then I was like, I feel like it's missing something. So the next batch of them had like smiley faces on them. So I feel like it's like
00:09:30
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kind of always built upon that and progressed from there in that way and kind of refined along the way and stuff too. But I really like kind of more just
00:09:40
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having each piece be better than the last one. I'm pretty happy with that fuel. So that kind of definitely pushes me to get more specific with my style. And it definitely is fueled from people affirming that, too. So many people being excited about my work. And even if it was 100 people, I would be like, really? So it's just cool no matter what.
Creating Lava Blue Mugs
00:10:03
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It's so crazy to me that people are like, your work's cool. I'm like, really? You think I'm cool?
00:10:08
Speaker
so I think that's really affirming and like if I make something that's a little out of the box I feel like I'm like not as like oh I won't do that because people won't like it I'm kind of just like do you guys like it and people are like yeah we love it I'm like okay cool like I'll do something else then um so that's really like helped pushed me to be confident in my style I guess so always just put yourself out there I would say like if you think it's something that's weird someone's gonna like it like I've put 10 pots out there the one that I hate the most sells first and I'm like
00:10:36
Speaker
You know, so I feel like someone's always going to like it and someone's going to think it's cool. So don't be afraid to like put something weird out there or try something different just because someone else isn't already doing it. Like maybe you're the first person, you know. Absolutely amazing. We're going to talk about more about your style later on. But for now, can you share with me the story how you came up with your lava blue mugs?
00:11:00
Speaker
I guess that kind of was like a built upon style of it too. Like I am, I'm very into florals. Like I feel like all my, even like all my tattoos, they're all floral. Like I love like flowers and even, I really like, um, traditional style tattoo florals and stuff like that. Um, and I've always been into like peonies and stuff. I don't know why, like I initially started carving peonies a long time ago. Um, but I kind of felt like something was like missing in the background of it kind of like to add that little like depth and like,
00:11:27
Speaker
foreground background dimension to it and like I said kind of building off that style so I had them just inlaid initially learning how to do the the wax inlay and stuff like that kind of like getting kind of like learning about those styles and adapting them to my work which is kind of fun to like learn about that and build on that and then I started doing some color in the background and initially it was kind of just like one color but I like it being really organically shaped because
00:11:55
Speaker
I put too much pressure on it being like, symmetrical if it's supposed to be so I kind of just freehand paint them with a nice wider brush and I started really liking the shapes of them and stuff like that and how organic and kind of abstract they were and then I kind of combined the two.
00:12:12
Speaker
And I thought it was like a really nice background for it because on the speckled clay, I'm literally like, I have a big crush on speckled clay, obviously. But I think it's a really nice dimension because it all comes through, like all the speckles and the bright shiny everything comes through the underglaze and then the carved element. Like I just think it's such a nice, obviously I like them, I'm biased. But yeah, it just kind of has been progressed a little bit over the last few styles maybe, but I like how they are now. I'm pretty happy with them.
00:12:40
Speaker
So can you give me a simplified version of how you make your lava blue mugs? Um, I brought one up just cause I figured it would be easier to be like, um, this is a bisque mug, so it's not finished yet. It's, I just glazed it. So it's going to be going into his last firing and it's going to be my next update. It's my favorite. It's my favorite one. So I'm bi I am biased in that way. I pick favorites. Um.
00:13:01
Speaker
Basically, they're wheel thrown, so I throw them on the wheel using 1.75 pounds of clay. I try really hard to focus on not wasting any of the clay, so it's pretty much all of it, and then I trim off a very little bit on the bottom. Trim them, add a handle, et cetera. That stuff's pretty normal.
00:13:20
Speaker
And then what I do is I add the paint first in the right after it's handled. So that's green wear stage. So really just like raw stage. So a little more leather hard dry. Paint three layers, two to three coats of each color in each spot. So they're kind of like all layered around one another and two or three layers of each color. And then once those dry, like the paint dries,
00:13:47
Speaker
the underglaze dries. It's waxed, so the whole mug gets waxed.
00:13:53
Speaker
and then it's dried again. And then I carve through the wax. I have like a, I just kind of draw on, I think it's just wax paper, like with Sharpie on wax paper, like a rough outline of my design. So I can kind of like map it out in each spot that I want to put it in. And I kind of use my thicker ball stylus to kind of like just kind of through the wax paper to kind of design it out, just to see where it's gone. And then I carve using a ball stylus through the wax when it's a little harder
00:14:22
Speaker
Um, so it's not all gloopy and draggy or whatever. It just sucks to carve through, personally. Hate it.
00:14:28
Speaker
So I carved them through the wax, and then they dry again, so the wax is fully dried, and then when you paint the white over it, it inlays only in the areas that you've carved. So that's kind of the process for that. And then once they're fired the first time, all the wax completely comes off in the kiln and it melts right off. And this is kind of what they come out of the first firing like. So it's all like, I wash them off, but you can't get any of it off anymore. It's fully fired on, which is nice.
00:14:53
Speaker
I glaze them, throw them in for a second firing, and then I send them to you. What temperature do you use to fire them?
00:15:02
Speaker
I fired a cone five, six. I have a really old kiln. It was never used before me, but it's from 1992. So it's an even heat kiln. I think they made them for like a few years and then I think Paragon absorbed it. So there's very little information about my kiln, but it's literally brand new when I got it. I've used it a lot and it's the perfect little size. I think the temperature I fire to is definitely a little bit above cone six. So I don't even know
Authenticity and Community Connection
00:15:30
Speaker
What exact temperature I fire by punch in, it's like 23 something, but.
00:15:36
Speaker
I don't know, something like that. Don't quote me, 2200 maybe. But then the cones melt at cone five, six usually, like a light cone. It depends how full it's packed. But yeah, it's like a cone six glaze and clay and stuff like that. So it fires pretty nicely. I like it. It seems very sturdy. I'm very happy with the integrity of them when they come out of the glaze firing. They seem very
00:16:02
Speaker
you could fight with them and they wouldn't break really easily, which is nice. Yeah, I get it. So what is something you hate doing or seeing other potters doing?
00:16:13
Speaker
I could go so many ways, you know? I guess something that I've noticed in seeing, because Instagram is so full of so many potters and social media is definitely where there's thousands and hundreds of thousands of potters, so everyone can just kind of look at what everyone else is doing. And I guess that kind of comes from finding your own voice, so I feel like I've definitely noticed some potters that
00:16:34
Speaker
I see the big potters, I see the ones that are doing really well, selling their stuff, because I love their work, so I'm following whatever, they're great. And then I see some people that are starting out or maybe building a brand, but then I see that their five core styles are a bunch of other people's styles.
00:16:51
Speaker
And I feel like sometimes people see what sells and they see what works and they kind of like take a few and they take a bunch of them and then they're like, well, this is my style because it's my take on it. And it's an adaptation of it, but I feel like it's still not necessarily the most individualistic sometimes. And it's still art, like it's still as beautiful art that people are loving and enjoying. I just see like some people sometimes maybe like absorb and recreate
00:17:16
Speaker
like what they exactly, like kind of similar interpretations of what they see working for other people, instead of it being their own voice a little bit sometimes. And that's something that we all kind of struggle with. Like I think that's why the exposure to everything is kind of like overwhelming sometimes. And I know I'm guilty of it sometimes too, being like, everyone's work kind of overlaps. I'm not immune from it. I'm not like above it or anything like that. But I just think it's like, I definitely want to see people
00:17:41
Speaker
be creative because they like it, not necessarily worried necessarily about how much other people are going to buy it. Like take that out of the equation, how much other people are selling, selling out their website, restock, selling out their online shop updates, take all of that out of the equation. What do you want to make? You know, like, what do you enjoy making? I fucking hate making plates. Sorry, I'm not sure. No, it's all good. It's all good.
00:18:04
Speaker
hate making plates and like stuff that's wide and shallow like i whenever it warps i'm so discouraged because i've spent two hours painting and carving it and then it warps and i'm like screw you so if you enjoy that then make it but if you don't don't make it you know what i mean like everyone wants mugs so that is definitely like but find a way to enjoy it like i like putting stuff on the mugs i don't want to make a bunch of bisque ware and just dunk it in a white glaze and sell it that's not joyful to me
00:18:28
Speaker
But if someone else is doing, you know what I mean? Like, it's just, it's hard to see. I feel like sometimes people do things because they, they feel like it works. But like, I think if you find the right audience and you market it well, it'll sell no matter what it is. If you're creative and independent, it's, it's individual. You know, I feel like that's a little bit more authentic and I think organic growth is really.
00:18:48
Speaker
to me organic growth is a little more nice than like I don't want to go. I'm not necessarily like my goal isn't to go viral. Like I said, if a hundred people followed me and supported me regularly and I was still able to make the money that I am doing this and funding my life and doing that, then I'd be like, thank you guys so much. You know, I don't need 80,000 people to like.
00:19:08
Speaker
share a video necessarily to sell the work. So it's, I feel like it's a weird game. Social media is a really gross game sometimes. It's overwhelming. It's a whole other job, you know? For those that are listening here, it's more important to make what you want than try to just try to make something to sell. I'm rambling, but yeah, he's right. So something I found interesting is that you will make pottery with other potters. Can you tell me how you got started doing this?
00:19:39
Speaker
Yeah, I definitely have like a few little little pals my clay community that kind of comes from being more like independent and self taught like a little basement potter who is nice it's nice to have people to talk to about pottery and stuff. So my best friend is that she actually moved away last year.
00:19:57
Speaker
But she was she lived here in the summer so she was more of my little studio pal for the summer that I would hang out with her a lot and do pottery which was so much fun like it was so nice to have someone to go back and forth and like bounce ideas and be like fueled and excited in the same space so
00:20:13
Speaker
That's something that's important to me and then I have another I have like a like a pen pal clay bestie and she's in mission She's in Michigan so she actually just came and did like a trip here this summer and we like hung out for the first time and like It's kind of created a community, but she's been like my little kiln God like I've learned how to run my kiln on my own
00:20:29
Speaker
just by, just by the internet from 1992. So it's nice to have someone like affirm some things like that and kind of go back and forth and like help you along the way. Cause it is nice to have community and it is really important to have it in this, in this community. Cause otherwise it's so, if you learn so at a pace that's a little slower, I think. How did this develop your work further?
00:20:51
Speaker
I think it really pushes you, like it fuels you just like anything that's like community is fueling and it is really important. Like I definitely have intentions in the future of kind of having like some type of community space that's even more just like a month to month basis open studio.
Balancing Creativity and Focus
00:21:06
Speaker
I have the access to things in your, like here it is and like we'll help each other and just be a little art community because I think that a lot of communities don't have a space like that. And then like a textile artist can come in and like a woodworker can come in. Like, you know, like a lot of people don't have
00:21:20
Speaker
access to spaces where they can just exercise creative ideas and talk about them in a safe space.
00:21:26
Speaker
have time and energy for them too. So I think community is definitely something that's like I've noticed has probably made my work better because it's just so affirming and it just feels good to share it all too. And like, I've had some like little like, like mug trades and stuff like that from like little pen pals. So it's like, it's just nice to like to cheer each other on, you know? It's definitely like a really fueling part of the industry and the part of the job, which is nice.
00:21:51
Speaker
I completely agree. I feel like your best ideas are gonna come from like somebody else and you're gonna bounce off that.
00:21:58
Speaker
I don't do a ton of custom orders, but when I do, like if a family friend reaches out or like someone that I'm like a friend with or whatever, they have an idea, they always bring me something I would never do myself. And it's like a kind of a fun space to exercise it in. And I come up with the coolest stuff. And I'm like, oh my God, I would never do this otherwise. But it does push me in ways that I would never do. You know, like I got a custom order for a family friend for a really large fruit bowl that has
00:22:26
Speaker
Um, it's like mid-century modern kind of like wallpaper designed, inspired and stuff kind of like that. And I like necessarily wouldn't do those things, but I was like, I love this project. Um, and it might be something that I do in the future again, because I like it. So it's, it's definitely nice to like be pushed out of the box in that way. Definitely agree. You don't have to be in your comfort zone otherwise you stay there. It's too comfortable. So when you feel overwhelmed or unfocused, what do you do to get back on track?
00:22:54
Speaker
I guess I probably just step away for a minute. Like it is in my house. So it's definitely like, I'm always like, I should be working. Like I probably have work to do. I got some work to do. I should be working. So it's kind of like always on my shoulders, which is, um, part of why I like the idea of having a community studio outside of the house, which is nice. Um, so I probably just like try to actively step away. Um, go outside. Like I, there's like a nice park around here that I take my dog to that's like a nice, like,
00:23:20
Speaker
walk over to a port and I grab a coffee, kind of do something for me. Because I think the one thing that I've enjoyed about working for myself is that that's the goal, is to have the balance and have the time and make those choices.
Finding Your Voice in Pottery
00:23:33
Speaker
But I spent a long time being like, oh, I don't have time for that, or I can't do that. Oh, I wish. And then I just get in the car and go. You can do it, you can figure it out, and you can put it down for a minute.
00:23:44
Speaker
Um, so it's definitely nice in that way. And I'm also, I still like, um, I'm still serving as well. So I still serve a couple of nights a week. So that's like my little social life and I'll go there and I'll just kind of like take me out of this environment. So it's, it changes it up. Like it mixes it up a little bit. And I feel like I get to go and like do other things too. Um, and then I'm always excited to go back to work. Like I feel like I wait, I go to bed and I'm like, I'm so excited to work tomorrow. Um, so I really don't have a lot of resentment towards that. I always want to be in the studio.
00:24:10
Speaker
My issue is I want to be there too much. I never have time. But if I'm feeling overwhelmed with it, I feel like I just change it up, really. Get outside, do something like hang out with someone or something like that. We all need our time to relax every once in a while. Get out. What advice would you give to someone looking to discover their unique voice in pottery?
00:24:33
Speaker
I think you said it earlier when you said try everything, you know, like try every little different part of it. Like if you don't think it's something that you would like, do it anyways, you know, like if you have access to it, if it's like you're at a studio and they have slab rolling and like.
00:24:48
Speaker
hand building and wheel throwing like try different parts of it because there's other things that might click for you and you might make one thing that is like no this is what I want to do in a big scale and do a bunch of them from there you know so um it's just be open to trying things out of the box and out of your wheelhouse I guess would be like a really nice thing to do and also to take inspiration outside of pottery I think um
00:25:11
Speaker
When you're looking for pottery inspiration, it's really easy to look at other pottery and be like, oh, I want to make it like that. But, um, I feel like it's kind of clicked for me at the beat, like kind of like this year or more so, but I started looking around at other things and trying to be inspired by things like outside, like.
00:25:27
Speaker
Okay, those those like flowers or that like landscape or those colors put together like if you look around and it's kind of like a color palette like what does that remind you of like do I like it like and things that are kind of inspiring to you outside of pottery is really nice too because then you're kind of pushed outside of that comfort zone to I Definitely agree. Can you add that comfort zone is where your growth is gonna happen? Yeah So as we're coming up on our last question here, what is one thing you want to hammer home with my audience today? I
00:25:57
Speaker
I guess there is like in saying that it's nice to take time away from social media and stuff too. Like we do live in a time where there's so much educational content at your fingertips. So take it all with a grain of salt and run with it and do your own thing with it and use your own voice, like find your own style. Um, but don't be afraid to utilize what's around you too. Like I think when you're learning and you're getting to know.
00:26:22
Speaker
pottery and you're kind of like absorbing everything like learn from some of these people and learn from the things that they're sharing and like the the Techniques that they're like teaching and stuff like that because there's so much access to it right now And it that's honestly a big way about how I learned a lot of the techniques that I did And then I applied them with my style. So I think that there's a way to like put the reps in find your own voice and Learn from others and don't be afraid to fail like everyone's no one's perfect at anything the first try like
00:26:51
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Everyone can show you their ugly little first pinch pots. Everyone's got them. Don't be afraid. No one's making 10-pound vases their first throw. Don't worry. Don't be afraid to screw up. It's just clay, you know? Yep, I definitely agree. Natalie, you absolutely crushed to say, where can my audience go and connect with you?
00:27:09
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They can definitely find me on Instagram at cabin fever clay works. I have a website cabin fever clay works.com. There is a newsletter on there that you can subscribe to. I've never sent one, but maybe I will in the future regarding updates and just like information that's pertinent to that things that you would want to know stuff like that.
00:27:27
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Yeah, I share a lot of behind the scenes work in progress and stuff like that on my Instagram stories and then work along the way and that's kind of where I direct my sales from social media. I'll be like, hey guys, I'm having an update soon, which I'm kind of gearing up for in the near future as well, which will be on my website.
00:27:49
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We hope you enjoyed this episode of Shaping Your Pottery with Nick Torres. Do you have questions about pottery that you'd like Nick to answer? Send them to us on Instagram at Nick Torres underscore pottery. We'll see you next time.