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50th Episode Celebration!
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Since the release of the first episode on the 30th of November 2020, Fraser (Satsunami) and Adam have discussed a wide variety of topics, from gaming and films to streaming and deep dives. Join the duo now as they look back on 50 episodes as well as answer some of the viewer's questions. As always, stay safe, stay awesome, and most importantly, stay hydrated!
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Milestone Episode Introduction
00:00:05
Speaker
Welcome to Chatsunami.
00:00:17
Speaker
Hello everybody and welcome to a very, very special episode of Chat Tsunami. I'm Sat Tsunami and joining me for this very special – I've said it three times now so it must be true – episode is my very good friend and co-host, Adam. Adam, how have we gotten here?
00:00:37
Speaker
that myself. Hello, hello. It's great to be back, especially on this, on this wondrous, on this special, just I'll get in there as well. Special, special, special episode, as you said. So yeah, but good question, I don't quite know. I don't quite know how you put up with me for all these episodes. Oh no, no, no, no. That's the easy part. I think the hard part is me trying to condense my wall falling.
00:00:58
Speaker
for 50 episodes. Do you know, it's like a fine skill. I was going to say like a fine wine, but I think that would be a disservice to wine. I'm not a wine drinker, but I imagine it would be an insult to them. Yeah, with that kind of... I don't want to say Beetlejuice intro, but you know what I mean.
Live Recording and Audience Interaction
00:01:15
Speaker
saying it three times but yeah it's gonna make it so yeah exactly it's gonna summon like all the viewers and everything and yeah as you can tell or if you're listening to this in the future we are indeed recording this live on Twitch so I'm having a look at the chat and yeah we have a good couple of people and so welcome to the 50th episode much appreciated for you all dropping in and yeah
00:01:38
Speaker
thank you all for your lovely messages there are a lot of lovely messages there and i'm not just saying this like so that future people listening to this are like oh my god how many people do they have a thousand two thousand that's like no we've got our merry bunch of awesome listeners our core fan base April of the future do you want to be awesome
00:01:59
Speaker
I do. You do. Yeah, are you advertising for future Chatsu episodes? I am. I'm thinking ahead. This is why you brought me in. I'm the thinker.
Future of the Podcast: Skynet and Rebranding
00:02:07
Speaker
See, this is why I got a Terminator fan as my co-host. You know, thinking about the future, thinking about the future of both Chatsunami and, well, not Skynet, but you know what I mean.
00:02:19
Speaker
We just have to make it big before Skynet. Yeah, we do. So before Skynet takes over, everybody share this with your friends, your family, your grannies, your grandpas, everybody go, go, go. I don't care if they don't know what a chat tsunami is, just go, go, go. I'm sure they'll appreciate it in time. Show them some earphones in their ears and press play. Yeah, that's it. Just speedrun it, speedrun it, and we'll get those plays. We will beat Skynet.
00:02:45
Speaker
Is the only way to stop Skynet? Exactly. It's the only way to either prevent Skynet or another Terminator sequel. Yeah, this is a question of the day. Do you want your children watching another Terminator sequel? Or do you want Chatsunami to become more popular? That's a real question of the day. We are not at all. We're not a philosophy podcast.
00:03:06
Speaker
We are now. Well, we are now, yeah. Oh my god. It's the rebrand. Yeah, this is the rebrand for season two. I was going to say my sandwich is going to transform into Aristotle. Yeah, it's going to be like a big, flowing, latency beard and everything. To which?
00:03:24
Speaker
the people listening to this in the future, like in Anchor or Spotify, you know, they're all going to be confused. Oh yeah, by the way, I'm a sandwich. That's important context. Do you want to re- well, not reiterate, do you want to expand on that?
00:03:37
Speaker
You just want to be like, I am a sandwich. Okay and that's all the time we have tonight, thank you all. Yes, you might actually see by the picture I put up for the thumbnail of this episode that of course I use a red panda avatar and of course use a... I was about to say center sandwich but it's just like a regular sandwich.
Podcast Beginnings and Evolution
00:03:59
Speaker
with eyes and a mouth. Out of curiosity, seeing as this is the 50th episode, we're really going to be like just looking back in the podcast and really just the decisions that we made to get here. And no, it's not going to be laid out like a true crime podcast. It's not going to be like Adam was just a normal person. He was just a normal sandwich until the red panda came.
00:04:25
Speaker
Yeah, and told him. Yeah, let's start a podcast together. He's like, okay, fair enough. I'm just trying to remember when... because the very first episode that released was in November. It was the 30th of November 2020 and then the week after...
00:04:42
Speaker
Then the week after, I think I had messaged you and I'd said, do you want to come on for a podcast episode? And you were like, yeah, sure, why not? And, yeah, I am so sorry. You haven't been able to shake me. You haven't been able to shake me with a back rash. Well, I wouldn't compare it to Star Fox, but it's like, I've got one on my tail! Help me! Help me! I'm the slippy of this podcast.
00:05:07
Speaker
That is a disservice. Before we go on to talk about the podcast, do you want to explain to the listeners at home why you chose? I mean technically I was part of this. I was an accomplice for why you chose a sandwich avatar, but do you want to explain to people why you chose this avatar? So if you're a true fan of the podcast you'll know that
00:05:32
Speaker
Satsunami and myself are very, very big fans of a certain game called Deadly Premonition. As you know of Deadly Premonition, you may well know of a particular scene in Deadly Premonition where a man eats a very particular kind of sandwich, which has turkey, shredded wheat, is it cramp? It's not cranberry, is it? It's cranberry, isn't it? Cranberry sauce.
00:05:55
Speaker
Yeah, yeah. Is there anything else in it or am I missing something? Well, cereal turkey. It's not wheat, sorry. Sorry, is it not jam? Is it cereal turkey? Oh, it's jam. Yeah, it's not ground bread. I was like, they'd go together. I was like, it can't be that. It's jam. Sorry, jam, cereal and turkey in a sandwich. And this is known as the cinner sandwich as a form of penance.
00:06:14
Speaker
And Satsang, me and myself, took this upon ourselves when we wanted to start. Well, when you started streaming, then you managed to rope me and also Espanks, who you may have seen on the streams, and also some of the Let's Plays. Everything, the three of us
Diversifying Topics: Films and Anime
00:06:30
Speaker
came together like a Zelda Triforce to form the Cinder Sandwiches. And we took that name, even though Espanks has never played Deadly Premonition.
00:06:40
Speaker
Yeah, the premonition until we started raving about it. Anyway, he joined and we collectively became known as the sinner sandwiches. So when I became a more permanent fixture on chat tsunami, it seemed only appropriate that I get myself an avatar and think of no other avatar to have than a talking sandwich with a lettucey beard.
00:06:57
Speaker
I'm honestly surprised you made this... Yeah, sorry to interrupt, but I'm honestly surprised that you used a Zelda reference there. This is true actually, because you aren't the resident Zelda player in our group. That belongs to Green Shield, which I have to admit...
00:07:17
Speaker
Yeah, so just to give a bit of context, Green Shield is our mutual friend, of course, who does the T-posing Let's Play series with us over on YouTube at Satsanami42. And yeah, perfect, seamless. And I always remember asking him about his name and always thinking it was a Zelda reference up until... because I thought, oh, you know Zelda, he wears green, he's got a green shield. Yeah, no, he has a blue shield. I don't know when I got the green shield from.
00:07:45
Speaker
So yeah, I know. Are you playing Zelda games as well as something that I could be making? Yeah, I know.
00:07:51
Speaker
Well, we're not making Master Sword references, that's the main thing. Yes, and we won't touch on that story. This is one of these things that we always bring up the Master Sword story and we never touch on it. And we never will, so we're moving on. If we ever do a Zelda episode, we may touch on the Master Sword story. Yes. That ever happens to him? Yeah. Well, Green Shield will probably be up for that, I have to say. If he ever takes us hostage, it's not an episode.
00:08:20
Speaker
It's like, what do you think? I think that Zelda is Link! Link! I think that Link is best character and he is strongest. The end. And that was the last episode of Chatsunami. Peter down to 52 episodes.
00:08:41
Speaker
Rest in pepperoni! But funny enough though, because as I was saying before, the initial plan with Chatsunami, or not the initial plan but the initial episode, I did it with like a mutual friend, you are a mutual friend, Craig, who also runs the Bear and Chill podcast, which if you haven't checked out awesome podcasts like Whole Heartedly would recommend, and we did it on D&D initially. And I'm not gonna lie, I had no idea where it was going from there.
00:09:09
Speaker
See this is the thing, see when I asked you to come on the podcast did you like have any ideas of where it was gonna go or like what did you think was gonna happen?
00:09:25
Speaker
because it's not like you said this specifically, but I kind of presumed it would be like a kind of gaming centric, like a gaming specific one. You know, I thought it would be like a kind of video game. Obviously, maybe just a thought with your streaming and everything. I thought you might just stick to that and that's what it would be. Like, but I mean, like, and it's not like I'm actually very glad to be honest. Like, you know, it's branched out and cover like, you know, films, TV and anime and everything and like much to the benefit, I think. But I mean, so I don't know. That was the only thing I thought maybe would be kind of a gaming centric thing.
00:09:53
Speaker
I honestly didn't know what the niche was going to be back then because I have to admit Chatsunami was, and I mean you'll know this as well, but Chatsunami wasn't really like at the time when I started streaming, so I started streaming around I think it was March, yeah it was around the end of mid-March into March. If I think it was end of March early April where I
00:10:15
Speaker
Yeah, I basically started streaming over on Twitch in 2020 because of the lockdowns and everything. I started doing a lot of variety streaming, so I was playing Sonic, Call of Duty, Pokémon, those kinds of games.
Impact of Lockdown on Podcasting
00:10:29
Speaker
And although I was enjoying it, one of the aspects that I really liked about it was just the chatting.
00:10:34
Speaker
Whenever I did a co-stream with yourself or S. Banks, Green Shield, Craig, so many, you know, to list off. But you know, I really loved that dynamic, you know, being able to like, chill with your friends and everything. And it almost seemed like, did you feel that way as well that it almost seemed natural to have something like a podcast or something you could just kind of, you know, slip into?
00:10:57
Speaker
Makes total sense, like I say, because it was such a big part of your streams. It was just like, you know, just chatting and like, you know, the audience, everything. So yeah, it just seemed like a natural extension. And you've always have a lot. This might sound like criticism, but it's not a problem. It's like, you've always had a lot of hate, and it's always good stuff. But yeah, so it just made sense. I'm glad you haven't did it because it's gone wondrously, if I do say so myself.
00:11:20
Speaker
Thank you. Well, you are half of the show, to be fair. I was going to say, I'm not just saying that because we're both live right now with a captive audience.
00:11:33
Speaker
Chatsunami's filmed in front of a live shoot? No, I'm kidding. Sadly not. It's not Andex Saturday Night Takeaway, which is a very Britain, UK-centric joke there. One of these days it will rival it. Saturday Night will be a battle. Yes. It's like between Chatsunami and Andex Saturday Night. Yeah, just to explain, it's like a game show over in the UK. It's... personally, it's like very family-friendly and clean. It's like it's not very interesting. But we always make jokes about those kind of shows. You know, like...
00:12:03
Speaker
It's your favourite show, isn't it? Oh, I love it. You know, I don't know why we didn't start off Chatsunami with that topic, discussing and Ex-Saturday Night Takeaway. Okay, now that's going to be a future episode. Oh, jeez, I don't know. We'll get all the previous episodes and we'll do a deep dive. Oh, yeah. What, the deep dive into my psychosis?
00:12:26
Speaker
how I went for my
Flexibility and Social Connections Through Podcasting
00:12:29
Speaker
ride. In fact, this is a true crime part of the podcast, you know? It's like how I was just a normal streamer. Then I started watching that in Dex Saturday Night Takeaway and then it was transformed into a ride panda. You know, you would think there was a missing link in between but I swear it makes sense somewhere along the line. I don't know what line, it's more like a squiggle but you know what I mean? It's...
00:12:51
Speaker
But yeah, we always joke about that, those kind of shows and, you know, being, like, trapped and, you know, like, the audience, because there's always, like, a fixed camera and you're just like, oh Lord, oh Jesus, don't turn the camera to me and, you know, you've always got those people that are like, woo! And, you know, they're, like, dancing and everything and they want the attention and it's like, I am...
00:13:12
Speaker
It's ironic because I am the complete opposite of that, I would have to say. This is me broadcasting myself and you bike-stitching, you know, live on Twitch. Especially just now, you know, chatting about your past endeavors with the podcast. But in real life, I'm a pretty shy guy. If someone came up to me with a camera and was like, hey, it's a host of Chatsunami, which, good luck. No face. Anyway. Sorry, that wasn't a challenge, by the way.
00:14:08
Speaker
That was just an observation.
00:14:12
Speaker
Yes, it was a different time. But I mean, we have done a lot with the series though. I mean, there's been... I mean, as you said before, we have covered a wide variety of topics. We've gone from films, both good and bad. We've talked about the raid series. We've talked about less favourable ones like Burdemic, Alone in the Dark.
00:14:36
Speaker
The Super Mario Bros. film, of course. I've talked about gaming, BioShock, Halo. Actually, the Halo retrospective that we did is still one of the most popular episodes that we've ever done, in terms of listens. That's amazing to think back. Everybody listened to that one, heard me, and was like, oh, enough of this, I think. No. I mean, we have, like, covered. It's like, you better be. Just half joking.
00:15:02
Speaker
It's a smidgen of joking. But yeah, it's just really interesting to think that that was back in December of last year. Because, I mean, if you think about it last year, we initially focused on Halo. Halo was the... So we did a Halo retrospective where we went through Halo 1 through 5, kind of expecting that Infinite would come out, so that we would talk about it. And yeah, spoilers, it still hasn't come out yet.
00:15:30
Speaker
I think it's coming out in the next couple of months at the time of this. Half of it's coming out in those couple of months. Oh yeah, of course. You can play the camp. Multi-player is coming out. Yeah, you can... Oh, is it? Is it just the multi... It's multi-player. Just the multi-player, yeah. Oh, come on. Can you write together? It's been 50 episodes... No, sorry. Since the Halo 1, it's been 49 episodes.
00:15:50
Speaker
Come on, get your act together. Come on still. Come on. But yeah, I mean, we've gone from that, we've done films, we've done gaming, we've done anime as well through the M. Jodrell's Bizarre Adventure series. There's been a lot of streamer interviews as well. Yeah, I have to admit, they are pretty interesting. I know I'm not on those ones, but I love listening to them. I find them really fascinating.
00:16:14
Speaker
Yeah, you're in the corner, and those ones. I'm holding the, what's it called, the boom? Oh, the boom mic, yeah. Come on, Cupid's still letting it fall into shot every now and then be like, oh, sorry. Yes, and you still weren't fired for it, so don't worry.
00:16:30
Speaker
Nah I'm only good. But I mean it has been an interesting way of getting to know like in the one hand it's great, it's a great tool to get to know people and kind of explore you know different aspects of whether it's streaming or gaming or things like that but also it is a great way and this is gonna sound sappy so I apologise but it's the 50th so I'll be I'm the host I'll be down well sappy if I please.
00:16:58
Speaker
But yeah, it's actually been a great way to hang out with friends, I would say.
Creative Expression and Diverse Discussions
00:17:03
Speaker
Would you agree with that? Oh yeah, definitely. It's good to have something like, especially in times like this, where you're like, you know, you kind of set a date and stuff and, you know, like, you know, you get something organised. It is good. It almost feels a bit, almost gives you that kind of sense of normality. You know, you used to arrange like meetups and stuff. That and our current times.
00:17:20
Speaker
Because on the one hand it's great gaming and things like that, but half of that is getting tunnel vision at certain points. Whether it be Warzone or Halo or something like that.
00:17:35
Speaker
God forbid zombies, you know, getting distracted. Like, at least the podcast you kind of have, like, time to breathe and, like, just chat about random subjects, really. I mean, I do think it has been great just to, you know, almost have a bit of downtime. And don't get me wrong, it's like, I think that's, like, half of it and the other half is definite with the planning. Would you agree with that? Oh, oh, definitely. It probably doesn't sound it from how I talk and how I come across in these episodes, but there's a lot of life related to, like, you know,
00:18:03
Speaker
looking things are. But it's good to have a creative outlook and that's what I mean. You have obviously lots of kind of creative things and do a lot of content creation and so ever you feel differently. But I like this for having a kind of creative outlook where you know you can just kind of express your opinions and stuff you know without too much judgment.
00:18:23
Speaker
Now I completely agree with you. I do think that is a great way to be able to just like, not only chat about a particular topic that you're passionate about. I mean, my god, like, we have, well, we have a good couple episodes that have reached like the two hour mark and it's purely for the fact that I can't shut my mouth, you know?
00:18:43
Speaker
so we like we keep going and talking like I was actually surprised that the Halo one is like I think it's only an hour 22 minutes maybe? Wow. It's not as long as I thought it was and that has kind of been a varied like length like it can go as short as like 45 minutes and it can extend to about two hours for some of them but it's never really gone beyond that thank goodness.
Christmas Episodes and Thematic Exploration
00:19:08
Speaker
What's the longest one? I think
00:19:11
Speaker
it is still our Silent Night Deadly Night one. So that's unsurprising. Yeah, to explain, as I was saying before actually, when we started we were kind of like jumping between topics so the first episode was about
00:19:26
Speaker
Yeah, it was D&D. Yeah, it was Dungeons & Dragons, then it was Halo, then the third episode was like horror games. The fourth one was about, I think it was Black Ops? Black Ops, I think. Yeah, it was like a Black Ops retrospective. And then because we were getting into like Christmas time, we started doing like a lot more Christmas-centric episodes. So things like, what was our favourite Christmas film?
00:19:49
Speaker
Like, sorry, our top five favourite Christmas films. We also did one in childhood games. That was a great one with a bequeathed from Bearded Shop World. One of the best ones, which I did enjoy, I have to say, was, and this is the one I'm building up to, was our, basically, to give context.
00:20:06
Speaker
Adam and I gave each other a very bad Christmas for them to go away, watch, and then come back with a review. And it's about two, it's over two hours but it's like two hours like seven minutes or something like that, two hours five. I would wholeheartedly recommend if you're going to start with any chance on that episode, go with that one because I think that was actually our very first pre-recorded episode.
00:20:28
Speaker
So we make like a joke at the beginning where you say, oh Chaitanami's filmed in front of a live studio audience and then we get the clap, clap, clap. And then I started talking about Silent Night Deadly Night and yeah, you were less than favourable about the film I gave you. There's about an hour of you ranting about it, like in the best way possible. Like I'm not saying like it's unfiltered rage.
00:20:51
Speaker
Well, I mean, it was close to a point. It's like an hour of me in like a fever dream trying to explain the plot of Burn Alone. That's so funny to think, it's so fun to think about because I remember how mad I got reviewing that and I'm just like, I look back and I'm like, how do I get so mad about that? Because it's really not a film that deserves like that rage. I think maybe it was just having to try and write the plot out, I think, just get me over the edge. But it's funny to look back at it now and think like, my God, if only I'd known.
00:21:20
Speaker
I didn't know what else I'd have to watch for this podcast. I probably would have been a lot more favorable in Bonalone because I think it's nowhere near the worst I had to watch during the course of this. I'm almost tempted now to go back and watch Bonalone, but I'm almost threatened that if I go back and watch it, I'll get angry all over again. I'll just go onto Facebook and just like berate you. He did this again.
00:21:47
Speaker
I shied cancel Satsunami and the Satsunami Podcast.
00:21:53
Speaker
But that's the thing though. Bone Alone is a bad film but at least it's quite inoffensive. I've used this example before. In the UK it's a Channel 5 film and in the US it's a Hallmark film where it's all squeaky clean and the robbers are just goofballs and not hardened criminals that you're gonna see. You're not gonna see any of these guys in a true crime podcast or anything. Apart from the dogs,
00:22:21
Speaker
Oh yeah, the dogs. Tried to set a man on fire in a chimney. And drown a man in a shower. And drown a man in a shower and do horrible stuff to another man's bum. Let it go! It happened on the film! I can't forget what I've seen. It is a film and a half. But yeah, if you want to hear a full opinions on the film, go listen to that podcast. It's one of the earlier episodes.
00:22:49
Speaker
But I have to admit, I really enjoyed that kind of period of Chatsunami because, again, it was like we were doing a lot of stuff and the run up to Christmas and things and I don't know, I just thought it was really wholesome. You know, because we were talking about our top Christmas films and I think we agreed on It's a Wonderful Life. Yeah, I think that was number one I think. Again, it's a fantastic film. Go check it out. Indeed. At Christmas, or a reputable time, but do check it out.
00:23:16
Speaker
but is there any like kind of period of chat tsunami you say was your favourite out of the whole series? Good question. I mean I've enjoyed, I've honestly enjoyed, this isn't me just waffling, it's me kind of waffling but it isn't like, I've enjoyed the whole run of it from you know first episode right, I think this is my thirtieth episode I think I was counting up, it's obviously like the fact that you've done some others with other people and everything but um I mean I've enjoyed all 30 episodes that I've been on I've
00:23:42
Speaker
I think if I was to pick a favorite period, there was a period earlier this year, like maybe around, I'd say around April time. I'm just gonna, I've actually just got the answers here. Like if we kind of marched April time, I would say this year, when we started covering, we started doing like, what we call, when we're coming up with these episodes, I think we turned them as like,
00:24:03
Speaker
video essay type content. So we talked about nostalgia in video games, like video game hype. What was the other one? We kind of did a deep dive into Star Wars games as well and things like that. And I just really enjoyed that kind of going in depth into these kind of topics.
00:24:21
Speaker
Because I wasn't really sure, like, because taxonomy is the one who suggested these ones. And I was really intrigued by hearing about them. But I remember when I first heard them, I was like, what am I going to say about these things? And so I went away, did some work. And I was like, oh my god, there's so much to say here. And I came up with so much things to say. And I really enjoyed that because I felt like I just really liked kind of going deep diving into things and doing a bit of research and everything. So if you're going to force me to pick a favorite period,
00:24:48
Speaker
I'll go with that one kind of March, April, April this year when we started our deep dives. No, I honestly agree. I do think that our kind of video essay-like topics are quite interesting to do because I know I remember saying to you about like, for example, there was the episode about hype and granted I did keep it kind of vague when I suggested it. It's like me knocking on your door just saying hype. You're like, tattoo, I don't understand what you're saying. Hype.
00:25:16
Speaker
It's like, no, no, please, like explain. What do you mean? Do you mean like in a particular game? Do you mean in a particular series? Hype. And then I just walked home, like 10 hours later. Hype. But we got a lot of interesting discussion out of these topics and that's the thing though, I feel as if with these episodes it's definitely almost like a game of Pong.
00:25:37
Speaker
You know, I suppose that's the fundamental goal of a podcast, but it's amazing how much it grows, you know, like the topic you're discussing. It's not just like, I say something to you, and then you're like, yes. And then that's that pause. I'll see you on Wednesday. Then you just, yeah, it's like the Discord disconnect. So it's like, brrrr. Talk to each other for the whole time.
00:25:58
Speaker
Yeah, see once these episodes are over yeah we don't talk to one another we just like quarantine ourselves until the next Wednesday or Thursday. I was just like yep see you next time. Hello there everybody. Nah jokes aside, I do like them because it does. It gives way to like a lot of interesting discussion and I think one of the best things about it as well is it's interesting to see what other people think of it you know.
00:26:22
Speaker
It's like something that people who are either listening to this live or, you know, listening to it in the future, you know, they can kind of sit there and think about it and kind of like, not ponder, but what's the right word? Ruminate. I was actually going to say ruminate. I was thinking about it. Reminds? That's it, that's what you need. I was like, exactly. I was kind of like, is that the right word? I'm like, no, it can be.
00:26:47
Speaker
It's a bag of flavour. You sit in it and you absorb the flakes. Are you saying it's like those crisps you used to get when you got your own bag of salt? I'm saying it's one of those boiling a bag, chickens or turkeys. Oh, succulent indeed. Succulent indeed. That's how I describe the podcast. Succulent and affordable. A little bit pink.
00:27:12
Speaker
and a little bit pink. Well, yeah, I'm not going to get into that. The topics allow people to ponder over them and it is. It's great to see what people have to say after it and discuss and think, are there any similarities? Are there going to be any differences? And if there are any differences, that's all fine and good. I mean, there have been times where I've been on a chat tsunami with people and I've said an opinion or brought up a topic and they'll say,
00:27:40
Speaker
Oh, I love Topicky and I'm looking at my notes thinking I have nothing but rantings and ravings about this topic. It's like, oh no, what have they said? What would you say? Out curiosity, what would you say is the most important part of Chatsanami? Or just in part of the podcasting process, what would you say is the most important
Structured Approach and Audience Engagement
00:28:04
Speaker
part of it?
00:28:04
Speaker
I think it's all important in its own way. I think maybe getting a structure down. And in fairness, you don't need to have this for every episode. We've done some on films and we're fairly kind of know what we want to go through with a film like it.
00:28:22
Speaker
when we started doing kind of films, we used to like kind of go through it, like, you know, following the plot and stuff. And then we've kind of transitioned into talking about like, you know, good points, bad point, especially when we started doing the video game films, we started doing good bad points. How is it working in adaptation things, you know? But I think for a lot of episodes, once you've got a structure down, I think everything else kind of like flows from it. So like, just to just use an example. So looking back at the episode, we talked about hype in video games. Yeah. You know, like you kind of you came up with this, like,
00:28:51
Speaker
broad topic but you know just you kind of came up with that let's talk about this topic and so then it was up then we had to like kind of work out like how do we want to approach this you know how do we want to divide it up and then so you know you came up with the idea of kind of splitting it into those three categories you know of part one was a game that lived up to its hype part two was a game that like didn't live up to its hype but has managed to like revive itself and then third uh part three was a game that just completely failed to live up to the hype and just died to death
00:29:17
Speaker
And so that gave us like a firm structure. And then from there, we could be like, all right, okay, now what games fit into those three, you know, those three structures and like, what points you want to bring up. So I think once you've got that, I think once you have a structure for an episode, it's so much easier to like, you know, just to flow from there and to like, put your notes together and know what you want to talk about. And, you know, and then even then, like, as the conversation goes, the other person will bring things up and then you can like,
00:29:41
Speaker
You can't lead off from there and everything. So I think I'll come up with a really firm structure. I think you're probably making it more difficult for yourself. I'd say some episodes need more of a structure than others, and that's fine. But I think if you work out a structure like quite early on for an episode, then you're pretty much good.
00:29:59
Speaker
because I definitely think if we went into... I mean, our efforts would have gotten better, I would definitely say, but it's like, if we went into, like, say, hype or... We did want a narrative... Yeah, nostalgia. A narrative versus gameplay, you know. I do think those are our best efforts, or not our best, but, you know, like, they kind of generate the most discussion. I do love it, like, because it is almost just like coffee talk, isn't it? Just like...
00:30:26
Speaker
you know, you might as well have the cafe sounds in the background being like, huh, so what do you think of this narrative? Oh yes, I think it's right, you know. Oh god, yeah. Chatsunami coffee time. Well, resume shortly. No, I'm joking. But, you know, there's like a lot to talk about. But at the same time, if it's like a broad topic like that, then it's something you have to kind of like narrow in on. And I do agree with what you're saying, like some episodes might require more of a structure to... Yeah.
00:30:54
Speaker
You know, hone in those points rather than just us, like, chatting rubbish for, like, three hours. Which, I'm not suggesting you chat rubbish, you don't. But I... I would disagree, but anyway. No, no, no, no. I disagree heavily. If anybody's gonna talk rubbish on this podcast, it's gonna be me, okay? There's only room in here for one. For one rambler, you got it? But yeah, jokes aside, it has been a blast, though. And I do think the more we've got into it, the more natural it feels.
00:31:23
Speaker
Oh, definitely. I've always looked forward to every episode from the first one I was on to this one, but definitely I remember being quite nervous for the first couple, because it's a bit of a nerve-racking thing. As much as we're not talking, well, I mean, we're not a live audience to an extent, and you can see them all.
00:31:46
Speaker
Yeah, I am saying right now just I'm sitting just right now my study, you know, in a comfy chair just in my lounge wear. So there's a behind the scenes for you. There's a behind the scenes exclusive what what I'm wearing right now. But yeah, like, I think as well what I really like about like mixed episodes as well as I think we have a I think
00:32:04
Speaker
we have an episode to suit whatever mood you have. Yeah. Because like we have these deep dives and if you're feeling in like a more kind of like, I don't know, philosophical or a more sort of, you know, like, academic is not the right word, but you know, that kind of frame of mind where you're like, you kind of, you kind of want to learn some stuff, maybe do like the theoretical stuff. We have those kind of deep dives into like narrative versus gameplay, for instance.
00:32:25
Speaker
At the same time as well, if you're just looking for something like more sort of easygoing and fun, we have our slate of bad film kind of just like laugh along and listen to one or both of us lose our minds at particular things. I feel like we have those ones as well that if you're looking for something a bit more sappy,
00:32:48
Speaker
you know, if you're looking for something to like kind of hit you in your nostalgia, in your nostalgic lands. And we have done, we've talked about games, you know, that like are meaningful to us. And we've obviously talked about films, you know, that mean a lot to us and everything at clear times and everything. And even perhaps if those films aren't, those films or games aren't like your favorite, perhaps aren't your nostalgic about, I think they can like just hearing somebody else like really talk about something they love.
00:33:11
Speaker
kind of inspire that in you and you can you kind of like oh you know that makes me think of that game film book whatever you know that i like gives me those feelings so i really feel like i feel like we cater to a smorgasbord of of you know of mental states here and there it is you knew i was going to get it in yeah i promise i'll try and make that the only use of of that word in this episode but i feel like we cater to we cater to a wide idea of how you're feeling so i believe that however you're feeling we've got an episode for you
00:33:41
Speaker
No, I totally agree with that. I do think that we have definitely something for everyone. I mean, as you said, we've got the deep dives, we've got the kind of sillier episodes. Like, if you want a silly episode that's long, you know, go for our silent Night Deadly Night and Bone Alone review. Like, that is, I think that's the peak of just kind of us just chatting very casually, talking about two bad films, ranting about the obvious plot holes and things like that.
00:34:07
Speaker
And you know, like, maybe we shouldn't have gone on too seriously, but at the same time, it's good content.
00:34:24
Speaker
I mean, we've also got films like Burdemic that we went through, the Super Mario Bros film Alone in the Dark. We've got those comedic ones, but as you said at the same time, we've got the nostalgia ones that'll hit you right in the nostalgia bone. I don't know where the nostalgia bone is, I'm not a doctor. This is a legal statement of the night, Satsanami and Adam, both not doctors yet.
00:34:50
Speaker
Once they start accepting pandas into medical school, then maybe, just maybe. But anyway, that aside, Panda and Sandwich prejudiced us aside. We'll be the first of our kind to be a few doctors. I mean, it'll go horribly wrong, but... We'll be trailblazers now, that's all that matters. Crumbs found an operating room.
00:35:12
Speaker
man woke up with a slice of bologna in his stomach. Anyway, that aside, my practice aside, yeah but we've got other ones that like are a lot more nostalgic.
Friendship and Video Games
00:35:22
Speaker
We had the Pokémonia one, you know, we've got the games of 2007. We've just got so many, like we've got the Dead of the Premonition. The Dead of the Premonition I have to admit is one of my favourites because it's a series that I'm passionate about and you're passionate about and I think, and this is where it gets sappy, so apologies, but
00:35:40
Speaker
I think this is definitely a series that brought us closer together as friends. Oh, definitely. I often say it's like, it's the final, there's three pillars to the friendship between myself and that tsunami, and deadly premonition is the third, and you might argue the most important. Oh yes.
00:36:00
Speaker
because initially it was just you had invited me and someone else to your flat at the time and you were like, oh let's play this game that's said to be really silly and everything and it's a bad game and then eventually we separated the wheat from the chut.
00:36:19
Speaker
and it was just you and I left playing this game and initially we kept playing this game and it was like a car crash you couldn't look away you're like what is this game and you know there was crazy stuff and just but well not bugs but just like really weird gameplay choices and everything thought
00:36:35
Speaker
what is going on with this game you know you're like i don't get this game i don't get why people you know love it or why you know it's such like a cult classic but then we got to the end of the game and it was just like oh my god this game is i mean it's still bad but it's like you and i we're like very fond of series like twin peaks and things like that so it's kind of no surprise that this game jailed with us you know
00:37:03
Speaker
and more like yeah this is this is the game for us I think this is definitely a good game for us to play but it was fantastic though and yeah kind of solidified that that and I don't know he probably didn't listen to it but I remember putting out a tweet saying that we were doing an episode on it and the creator sweaty65 actually liked the tweet at the time
00:37:25
Speaker
And I just thought that was great. Whether or not he liked, like he probably just saw someone mention deadly premonition and went like, but you know what, don't care. I like to think he listened to the episode. Yeah he listened to the whole thing and he was like, you're not bad guys, you're not bad.
00:37:43
Speaker
And if my memory serves right, that was an episode that we didn't actually structure. I don't think I went into it and just said, let's just talk about this game that we both love. And, you know, like, we just did. We did for two hours. We're probably going to go longer, to be honest. We really could have, if not for my editing hands, just like shaking going, please, no more than two hours, please.
00:38:04
Speaker
But, I mean, that's the thing though. It's those kind of topics that you and I kind of come up with and, you know, like some of them are planned, others were kind of like quite situational, you know, like the Xbox 20th anniversary episode. I mean, what other episodes? You know those kind of ones, like, again, Pokémon. Oh, the Christmas ones, yeah, yeah, that's true.
00:38:29
Speaker
of the time of year and stuff of that festive cheer which we're going to need to talk about this year because there's a lot of Christmas to think about I actually am wondering what year a year but rather what day Christmas is like day as in the day not the 25th I know it's on the 25th oh my god before anyone puts it on the paper Saturn army doesn't know when Christmas is it's like yes I am a filthy heretic
00:38:54
Speaker
Oh, it's a Saturday. No wonder we can't give you a chance to not be Christmas present to open. Well, you never know. Who knows? We could draw up our special episodes in here. There's a tease for you all.
00:39:11
Speaker
Yeah, like a five-minute rant about Bonaroon. And another thing! That's when you announce your solo project of... And another thing!
00:39:26
Speaker
It's like, you're not wrong, you are not wrong indeed. It honestly has been a blast and the journey itself is, I mean, it has been
Adam's Podcasting Journey
00:39:33
Speaker
great. So kind of looking back to when I was saying to you, you know, oh, do you want to do this podcast? And then you jumped and said, yeah, yeah, sure. What was your experience with podcasts before? So I had, I had done another one previously, but I did a couple episodes before and, but like, I didn't, I'm trying to think like, I'd never really listened to podcasts for a long time.
00:39:55
Speaker
something I've kind of recently got into now but like so I did that one briefly for a bit and then like I think I started listening to some different ones like I started off listening to kind of wrestling and I'm a fair weather pro wrestling fan. I go for kind of peaks and profs of interest in it but like I was the point where I was very interested so I started listening to that and I kind of rolled them down from there and I realised how great new podcasts are
00:40:18
Speaker
But I never really did like starting my own or going on to another one until you started just streaming and then that kind of led into you wanting to start podcasting and initially like when you said that I was just looking forward to hearing you know what you had to say and everything and then when you asked me to come on and like I just kind of presumed it would be like a
00:40:36
Speaker
sort of like a guest slot thing, you know, like I would come on for this, I'd come on for the Halo one, then I thought, well, maybe I'll come back, you know, like some other episodes down the line on some related, whatever it would be, some kind of related topic. But then, yeah, you just, for some mad reason, you kept asking me back, and I was like, then...
00:40:53
Speaker
It's like I have sat down on the chair, I refuse to move, I am not going. See, this is a thing I was kind of worried about because when I started the podcast, as you said, it kind of stemmed from when I started streaming in 2020 and initially, as I said, the first episode was with Craig. Once again, I'm plugging his podcast, the Beer and Chill podcast,
00:41:13
Speaker
Great podcast, go listen to it. And then the second episode, as I said, you and I both love the Halo series. We've kind of grown up with it. I think you more than me, mind you. But if you want to hear the full story, go listen to the podcast episode. How you doing? I will not reveal the secrets yet. And, you know, it was a series that we were both passionate about. And we were like, yeah, let's talk about this. And we did. We spoke about it for a fair amount of time. Absolutely loved it. And then
00:41:42
Speaker
yeah I basically said to you you know like or sorry we were talking after it and I think you'd said kind of did we agree on the topic for the next week or was it just a kind of like a gradual thing? I can't even remember I think maybe like I don't think we agree on the topic I think I might have said something like oh but if you ever want me to do another one like you know just like just while you were starting I kind of thought I would be like a stopgap like a stopgap thing until you found like a far more competent
00:42:08
Speaker
You know, it's one more competent professional co-host to help you out. So I just said, yeah, if you know what I'm doing, just let me know. I can help out. And then, yeah, I don't know how we got, I mean, it must have been like not long after how
Remote Setup and Podcasting Challenges
00:42:20
Speaker
long. Yeah, it must have been because you've been playing some, I think you've been playing, you've been streaming some as well, haven't you?
00:42:25
Speaker
Yeah because I think we had started, I think technically Chat Tsunami did start earlier than the 30th of November because the 30th of November was when the first episode was released on Anchor because I initially started, you know, streaming these episodes on Twitch and like I wasn't really sure where it was gonna go because I thought initially that might be the case. It might just be like a rolling, you know, host. It might be like, you know, first Craig, then you, then maybe Green Shield, maybe Esback, you know.
00:42:54
Speaker
I wasn't sure how it was gonna go and then as soon as you said like you were you know you were really enjoying it you wanted to do it I was like oh my god yes never leave me please because you have like again sappy mode click activated but you have been a great host in chat tsunami so yeah no thank you so much for like sticking with it maybe try here thank you was like me to be honest thank you for putting up with me uh 30 episodes of me interrupting you in the in the middle of your sentences which i'm like every time i do it i'm like
00:43:26
Speaker
Yeah just to quickly explain we do these over Discord so in case anyone's wondering like why you know why there's like audio cutouts or you know there's things like that yeah we don't do it in person because initially it was because of the lockdown it's not always you know like not feasible what's the word I'm looking for reasonable reasonable feasible you know same thing
00:43:48
Speaker
We live a little, dude. We live a little way away from China. It's not the easiest thing just to pop over. So it's just convenient to be honest. Pretty much, yeah. It really is. But it is good in a way because it keeps that kind of rustic chat tsunami aesthetic, you know. Just like mama used to make them, you know.
00:44:10
Speaker
Chatsunami is now in a bottle. I don't know how that works, but you know, if you hear like Scottish screaming sounds coming out your coke can, I apologise. That was not me. Are we even wearing those originals or podcasts now? Or is it one of the pet bridge farms? Chatsunami!
00:44:30
Speaker
you're not wrong because we do always bring stuff up like that but like in another thing about Evil or you know the series we're passionate about like Bioshock Infinite we've done the Call of Duty series because we've only done I think the Black Ops and Modern Warfare series I think we've only done those you know we deep dive into like quite a lot of like old games new games deadly premonition as we said I'm just having a quick look at the other ones because they've honestly been so well it's been 50
00:44:59
Speaker
Heavy Rain? Heavy Rain as well. That was a great episode. That's one that's come out recently. So I would recommend if anyone wants to check that out. I mean, we looked at Star Wars games, which of course is like a staple of both our childhoods. Top video game levels, I remember that one. That was another nostalgic one. Yeah, we talked about sequels we wanted to see from video games and ones that we didn't like. Oh god, I got to the Silent Night Deadly Night with Talk to You Much.
00:45:26
Speaker
I mean, one of my favourite episodes, I have to say, was the Timothy Dalton one we did. Oh, that was so good. It was. Just to quickly explain, we did an episode where we talked about the Timothy Dalton James Bond film, so we talked about License to Kill and Living Day Lights. Living Day Lights. Both brilliant films, you know? Okay, now going through them step by step and kind of...
00:45:51
Speaker
Chatting about them and it was I was great just rewatching I think that's part of the fun to be honest even we go away and we research these topics You know, I think that's part of the fun is really just such a laugh going
Humorous Moments and Editing Anecdotes
00:46:06
Speaker
away rewatching these films for the podcasts messaging one another You know like school kids saying why is he like us? Why is he like that?
00:46:15
Speaker
but in the alone in the dark was a blast we did that way we like we were like missing each other we watched at the same time that was amazing that was fantastic um i thoroughly enjoyed like re-watching or not re-watching but watching that film because i feel as if that's part of the fun because i feel as if if you go away and watch it yourself you don't really get the impact of it like as i said in the last episodes where we talked about starship troopers like i went over to visit you on
00:46:43
Speaker
the real occasion and yeah we ended up binge watching all of the Starship Troopers silent it was four of them four out of five four out of five and i mean we were kind of jet lagged by the end
00:46:56
Speaker
if that's the correct term. I mean Starship Trooper liked as I said before but it was a blast doing them though. It got to the point it was so bad that we became so disorientated watching Starship Troopers that we ordered pizza and it took until like about us eating half of our pizzas to realise we'd picked up the wrong ones. Like I was eating, I was eating sasanami's pizza and he was eating mine.
00:47:17
Speaker
That was amazing. I'll tell you how bad it is. You ordered a vegetable one or something. Yeah, I got a vegetable one. I don't got a vegetable one. I got a barbecue chicken one.
00:47:32
Speaker
And I'm eating this pizza and I'm going, this is weird. There's no chicken on here. It doesn't taste like barbecue. And I was kind of like, I think it's a nice pizza, but it's just very weird. And I had three slices left and I looked over and there was like this suspicious like spread of barbecue sauce over your pizza. And I was like, Adam, do we have the right pizza? And I remember you holding the slice and just so dejectedly you dropped the slice.
00:48:01
Speaker
I couldn't believe it. How I ordered a vegetable pizza and I proceeded to eat one with chicken and barbecue on it. And I didn't know. Generally I remember opening it and I saw peppers. Yeah. And I was like, Oh, that's clearly mine. It has vegetables on it. I didn't bother to like look any closer at any of the other details. I think I blame Starship Ticklers for that.
00:48:21
Speaker
Oh yeah. When did we get that? Was that like the second film or the third film? It might have been the third film? I think it must have been, yeah. It was definitely one of the sequels because we watched the first film and it was great, you know, like fantastic. If you want to hear our opinions like look up the last episode from this.
00:48:38
Speaker
Yeah, then when we got to like two and three we were just like, what is this film? Why is this film? How is this film? What's the purpose? Why are we here? Just to suffer.jpg. Yeah, just the great pizza mix-up, which I think we didn't actually admit in the last episode.
00:48:57
Speaker
This is like a chat tsunami exclusive. But I mean even with the goofs, because as I've said before, in the earlier episodes especially, I had
00:49:12
Speaker
a lot of problems where I'd accidentally left like some of the you know the notifications on or some of my pipes in the background would creak or you know there would be something that went wrong with this stream and I would just be like why why and I'd be listening back to it and there would just be like a weird noise or like a spike in the audio and I'm like hmm this isn't good
00:49:36
Speaker
But it did get better. I mean, I upgraded my mic. I used to use a... in case anyone's interested, I used to use a fee find, I think it's called. And it's like a standard USB mic. But if you're starting out, it was about £30 to £40. I would wholeheartedly recommend it. Can't remember the one I'm using just now. It's like a something something. It's got a really long name.
00:50:00
Speaker
Because I couldn't get an Elgato one or a, what is it, Blue Yeti mic. I couldn't be a normal. It's like, you know that meme where it's the child in the background at the back of the car screaming and it's the mum like, why can't you be normal? And I'm like, I'm going to get this mic. I don't care what you say.
00:50:17
Speaker
But I mean, I think the audio quality has, like, slightly... I mean, don't get me wrong, I'm not like an audio person. I'll listen to a song and say, that's got a good beat, but I won't, like, I won't, like, deep dive into it. That's why you haven't seen any, like, music-based chats and damage yet. I would need to get someone who's like, you know, like, you know if you took someone to, like, a whiskey distillery and you would have them saying things like, hmm, yeah, it tastes very peaty, you know? It tastes... Oh, you keep one.
00:50:47
Speaker
It's always a smokey plane, doesn't it? Yeah. When's the Chat Tsunami episodes where we go live? I don't even drink! It's like, ah yes, a smokey, a very pity, a very, you know, highland, highland smelling. Like, slightly off topic before we jump into the second half.
00:51:10
Speaker
I remember I went to a distillery tour once and they basically turned round to me and they said, oh yes, would you like to try a dram? Which is just like the tiny cup of it. And I mean, I don't drink, but you know, when in Rome, why not try it? And I remember trying this one and they said, oh, it's very peaty. And I don't know what peaty tastes like, but after tasting that, I was like, oh yeah, that's peaty.
00:51:33
Speaker
that has definitely been a bit more like, oh, we can't tell you where this whiskey came from. It's like some Highland Distillery. And I thought, listen, even if you told me right now, even if you gave me the direct location, the address, the coordinates, I would forget in two seconds, okay? I would not. And I apologise to any whiskey fans of Chats in that.
00:51:56
Speaker
Like, if anyone wants to recommend good whisky, feel free. Oh, please tell me you're not a whisky fan after all this time, man. Oh, God. No, God. Like, I am... I am... I am not a spirit drinker, to be honest. I was going to say, the distillery tour will go well soon as you don't drink and spirits make me sick, so...
00:52:13
Speaker
I mean, I play Phasmaphobia as well, so I agree. Spirits make me sick. And there's the pun for the 50th episode. Are you proud of me? Nothing wrong against Whiskey, to be fair. There's actually a great Scottish film called The Angel Share all about that.
00:52:30
Speaker
like I would recommend if you're looking for like a good comedy about like whiskey distillities which is a niche subject but trust me it's a good film. As a kind of you know not treat after moaning about whiskey we have actually got a couple of questions that so basically before we came on tonight we went out and we shook our question asking hats and we indeed have a couple of questions from our
00:52:56
Speaker
awesome listeners at home.
Improving Skills and Episode Quality
00:52:58
Speaker
So should we dive into them? Let's go for it. So the first one is as follows. If you could revisit any of the old podcast topics, what would it be and why? On a personal level, I would probably pick like the Halo episode, like my very first one. Oh my god, me too.
00:53:21
Speaker
Not because of like, I think there's anything wrong with the episode, like per se, like it's just that like listening back to it, I find it hard to listen because I, that was my first episode and I think I sounded like so goddamn nervous and stuff and just like unsure of myself. So like on a personal level, I would, I would say that one, cause it'd be good to like revisit it now where like, I'm still like terrified and unsure of myself, but I don't sound as much like that now. So I got better at hiding it.
00:53:48
Speaker
And just as another one, after our narrative and gameplay discussion, which I absolutely loved that episode, I was so annoyed at myself that I failed to bring up Tetris talking about gameplay that I was like, damn it, we've got to record that episode again so I can talk about Tetris.
00:54:04
Speaker
Yeah, not to bring up a co-winky dink, but I was actually going to bring up Halo as well, I have to say. Again, I feel as if the points we made were fantastic and there was a great discussion and everything, but when I'm editing, these are things that you will probably never hear when you're listening back to the finished product of this, either on Spotify, Anchor, whatever you listen to this.
00:54:27
Speaker
You'll never hear the kind of blemishes and the ums and ums and these are things that I usually take out of the podcast. There's a lot of small bits which I think somebody listening to it would probably think, oh it doesn't, I don't care. As long as I'm not heavily breathing down the microphone like, tell me your favourite.
00:54:48
Speaker
like I don't think people would really buy into that but yeah like it is definitely one I would love to revisit I do think that and again it's not for you I thought you sounded fine but when I was listening back to myself I was like Jesus Christ I'm the complete opposite I thought you sounded fine as me
00:55:08
Speaker
Pull it together man. I mean either between that or the Dungeons and Dragons episodes because I feel as if it was a good episode again but because it was the first episode and I totally see where you're coming from with like being nervous because I too was like terrified. I was more like hello and welcome to the chat. You're like chaggy from the Scooby Doo. Zoinks! We're gonna do a podcast!
00:55:34
Speaker
I thought you probably said came across really well in like, you could've gone as well in every episode, I think so. To me, again, I think it's that thing though, isn't it? Like, you're your own harshest critic, like, because as well, you know how you were feeling at the time, but like, to us, to me, like, I've never noticed you sounding nervous again, also.
00:55:49
Speaker
It is like you're completely right because it is one of those like behind the curtain things where you could be like shaking and nervous and I think I'm a bit better with it now and I think I mean would you agree for your side that you're like a lot better now going live compared to when we started out? Oh yeah I feel much more comfortable now like you know doing it.
00:56:22
Speaker
just because me and you had I enjoyed the episode but I also enjoyed the lead up to the episode because me and you had such such varied reactions to that film in that I absolutely I had an absolute blast watching it and absolutely loved it and I still think it's a good film yeah and then I remember seeing the tech messages in you being like you know like F this film and what the hell
00:56:31
Speaker
So the next question is, what has been your favourite episode so far and why?
00:56:42
Speaker
Why is this always plumbing the Scapelli brothers too? And then just as the one point we're like listening back to the one point where you're like having to you're trying to explain like King Koopa's like dislike of plumbers and you're just you just like you could just hear you like you just give up.
00:57:01
Speaker
It just sold. It's crushed. I have to explain this. That was a favourite. I think, though, my real favourite is probably the episode we did on nostalgia and video games. Just because it surprised me how much I enjoyed looking at that topic and talking about it. And again, that was one that Satsanami put forward. Satsanami always puts forward the best ideas. There you go.
00:57:25
Speaker
It's probably his idea. That one just surprised me because it wasn't a topic I ever thought about covering. And then I was intrigued. But then the more I looked at it, the more I looked into it, I was like, oh, there's so much cool stuff to say. And then just saying it, you know, just made me feel warmer and fuzzy. I thought back to all these great games that I've loved over the years. And I mean, it was like the 2000 and 7-1 as well, wasn't it? Where it was like you were putting that blanket over yourself and being like, remember Halo 3, I remember, remember battle.
00:57:52
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oh no Battlefront was 2005 but Battlefront 2 but yeah you know what I mean like all those games that kind of came together in 2007 and that was one of yours actually which was um that was a fantastic episode as well I think for me though I would definitely say in terms of comedy again the right answers all of them how do you make us choose
00:58:12
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that the correct answer um no the correct answer sorry the answer i would give probably would be the in terms of comedy the silent night deadly night one and bone alone because it was such a joy i was actually relistening to that the other night and it was just you descending into madness just like why
00:58:32
Speaker
like why is um you know that this kid's got loads why is it called AAA yeah what why are the robbers so you know just stupid you know but it was fantastic it was just such a laugh and like I think that was the first time on Chatsanami when I just lost it because I think before I tried to remain quite composed and you know like that kind of professional host of hmm yes ha ha ha
00:58:57
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I see, I see, hmm yes. But for that I just lost it. I just like, I was like forgive me, forgive me since I must go all up. And I just started, yeah. But when you started describing, so there's a quick aside but there's a scene in the film where the dog puts like this huge like thing of raw steak into like this robber's underwear when he's not paying attention and it's attached to like a fishing hook that then like pulls him across the room. The way you described that, you described it as the dog.
00:59:27
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putting a huge hunk of meat inside of his trousers and I did not expect that whatsoever I just I lost it I couldn't stop laughing I had tears in my eyes I was just like yeah I need a minute guys I just need a minute there's no way I can keep going with this and you were just like you okay and I'm like yeah just just keep going
00:59:49
Speaker
I need a minute. I just need a minute. It was so, so funny. In terms of serious ones, I would say the deadly premonition one. Because again, maybe it's just because I have a very soft spot for deadly premonition because as you said earlier, it's the third pillar of our friendship. And being able to like, express that love of the series, you know.
01:00:10
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especially with someone who also appreciates it. Because it might, it's all fun and games, you know, like, if I got someone else on and I was like, oh, Deadly Premonition's a great game, and they were like, oh, I've never played it. And then it's like an hour of me explaining why it's so good. But because we've gone through this experience together, it's like, oh, what's the problem? I know what you did last summer, only I know you played Deadly Premonition. It's like, nobody must know.
01:00:38
Speaker
And speaking of which, so next question. Have you discovered anything surprising or unexpected about making podcasts that you hadn't anticipated when you first embarked on your Chats and Ami journey?
Personal Discoveries and Comfort on Mic
01:00:52
Speaker
That's a good one. I feel you're more qualified to answer this one than I am. So I'll just briefly say I didn't realise how inarticulate can be, especially how much I used to use the word like.
01:01:04
Speaker
That was something that I noticed very strongly in the first episodes. And I've made a real effort to try and cut that down in subsequent ones. And also, yeah, as well, one of my favorite gaff, or my favorite gaff, the one that makes me cringe the most is during the episode where we talked about our favorite levels in video games. I was talking about my favorite level from the original Bioshock.
01:01:25
Speaker
which takes place in an area that used to be a kind of shopping mall, entertainment district, and I described it as being full of shopping shops. That makes me cringe more than anything! I uttered that word and it's preserved for all posterity. So yeah, there you go, that's what I learned about.
01:01:43
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that of myself. Oh no I've done that before. I can't remember what it was I said in the Starship Troopers one but I made a very similar mistake and I was listening to it thinking I should really cut this and I'm like if I cut that everything I've said before will make no sense and it was just like the choice of what do I do? Do I make myself sound reputable or did I make myself sound bad?
01:02:03
Speaker
and it makes sense always. Yeah but like on that point I feel as if the editing definitely caught me off guard because I was not expecting the amount of edit. Like as I said before like I've been streaming since March of 2020 so I've done like a lot of compilation videos you know things that you know when you're chopping up like a very long stream into like a condensed like 10 to 20 minute video
01:02:28
Speaker
You know, it's a lot of fun because you're seeing a lot of visual things on the screen. You're seeing like a lot of people. Yeah, not a lot of people, but a lot of like game scenes that you can add like memes and jokes to. With like the podcast editing, it's a bit duller. Like I do like going back and listening to what we say and re-listening to some jokes and thinking, I actually forgot we said that and kind of laughing about it, but it's a lot more dry to edit. Like you have to go through it.
01:02:55
Speaker
piece by piece and again it's worth it for the finished product but it's kind of weird because you go like I go through like not painstaking but I go through the bit by bit to make sure it's perfect.
01:03:07
Speaker
and that's like a detriment to me, I think. Like I'd go through it to make sure it's perfect but I don't think like a lot of people would really notice if I left certain like umms and um and hymns and you know things like that in. Another thing just something that I think you touched on definitely learning pa- not learning, speech patterns. I did not realise I did the same thing. I use words like like you know do you think you know things like that as I just said there.
01:03:33
Speaker
stuff you don't realise and I kind of try to edit them out and cut them down a bit but when you're kind of talking with a friend you know you just you use these words over and over again and you don't think much about them you just kind of speak and that's it they come out and you're like ah so it's interesting to see your speech patterns so yeah I feel as if that's unexpected but something as well in a bit of a personal point is definitely getting used to my own voice because when I started
01:04:03
Speaker
I hated, I hated listening to my own voice. I would do like a lot of compilation videos where I was in a group and that kind of made it more palatable. So when I had to do like a whole podcast where it was just me talking, because I used to hate my voice, I used to think, oh, who wants to listen to this voice?
01:04:22
Speaker
and, you know, insert disgusted noise here. At the same time, the more and more I've done this 50 episodes later, the more I've just kind of thought, okay, this is what I've said here, this is what I've said, you know, it doesn't faze me anymore. Like, did you- I think it's worth, oh sorry, I'm just gonna- No, no, go on, sorry. I think it's worth repeating, and probably people listening probably even know this or can guess this, but
01:04:42
Speaker
Like, you know, Satsanami is the one who does everything basically for like, you know, getting these episodes together and getting them recorded and editing them. Like, it's all through, like, his, his, like, powerless hard work that, like, these, you know, they all come out and they got blown and everything. So the amount of work you put into them, like, and, like, I know to an extent, like, the amount of work you put in and everything. And so, yeah, I doff my cap. You do so much to get it going and you're the engine that keeps us running.
01:05:10
Speaker
And the body of the car as well, to be honest. And the wheels and everything else. So what you're saying is I'm the Steve McQueen of this? Yes, you're the Steve McQueen. In case anyone's wondering why I said Steve McQueen and not Lightning McQueen, feel free to check out our Let's Play of Heavy Rain. Trust me, when you get to the episode, you will know. Anyway, moving on. So next question. Describe your process for prepping an episode from start to finish.
01:05:39
Speaker
for the most part some of them are quite situational topics you know like if it's coming up to Halloween obviously we did one in horror games if it's coming up to Christmas we did one in you know Christmas albums and things like there's a lot of them like in terms of like coming up with the topics usually we do that or you know like the Xbox 20th anniversary things like that
01:06:00
Speaker
But usually it's just topics that we are personally interested
Episode Planning and Topic Selection
01:06:04
Speaker
in. And we do try to follow a structure. Every week we'll try and change it up. So like one week might be a game, one week might be a video essay, you know, like about hype or narrative versus gameplay, films, anime. And once we do that, we kind of like come up with a... depending on the episode, like if it's a like-hearted one, usually we have like a bare bones outline to say, we're gonna touch on this point, this point and that point.
01:06:30
Speaker
But if it's more in depth, we have a more rigid structure. So we'll have the introduction, what we're going to be discussing, how we're going to discuss it. For the hype episode, as you said, we structured it as talking about a game that lived up to the hype.
01:06:46
Speaker
a game that didn't live up to the hype initially but then it kind of rose up and ended up achieving that hype and one that just completely failed and we kind of did that like from start to you know like from start to finish talking and touching on these points and it's quite similar as well for the streamer spotlight episodes so like the ones that we were talking about earlier there where i've like met like a lot of you know other streamers on the platform and i interview them i talk about
01:07:15
Speaker
just basically what their experiences on Twitch are. What they feel as if is good with the platform, how they've gone through it and things, and I feel as if they're a little bit more structured. But something funny I have noticed in them, and I don't know if you've noticed this as well, listening to them Adam.
01:07:30
Speaker
I do have a barebone structure of talking about their experiences and things like that, what kind of other projects they're into, but remember I was interviewing another streamer called Super Shadow 271, big shout out there, and I'm not gonna lie, initially it began talking about Twitch, and then the majority of the rest of it ended up descending into Sonic Talk.
01:07:53
Speaker
And then we tried bringing it back to Twitch and then it just went back into Sonic. And don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that's bad at all. It's fantastic because it just shows the flow of the discussion where we could just be like, let's talk about this topic, that topic, see where it goes. And I have noticed that it begins with like the... And I mean, it's the same with ours. Would you agree with that? That it begins with a kind of bare bones plan and then
01:08:18
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or not bare bones, but it begins with a plan of what we're going to talk about, and then it just flows from there. SCOTT Yeah, that's exactly what happens. We make a structure for these episodes, but it doesn't mean that we have to bridge. We come up with the cheap points, and then maybe a few bullet points underneath about some headings and stuff we want to talk about, but then that's just to jump the conversation off at the starting point.
01:08:43
Speaker
And as you say, we can kind of go with the flow there as well. We have a quite a big Google Doc with a lot of potential ideas and also lists of episodes that we've done already to keep track and stuff. So that's something that both of us add to every now and then. If anything comes into our minds about things we want to talk about, we put it under a list there. So that's maybe our holy grail of actual content and future content and everything. Oh, absolutely.
01:09:10
Speaker
As you said, everything else in the process is as you described. And then once we record it though, then it goes into the editing phase, which as I said is terrible. It's not terrible, it's just a lot to go through it, take out the Kingdom of Repetition and things like that and make sure it flows and things. I'm not saying I'm pro-editor, but I try my best at it.
01:09:35
Speaker
But you do really well you try and succeed It's like yeah. Yeah. Okay. I'll I'll transfer that money to you after the after the stream. Okay. Thank you very much Yeah, we are muted aren't we? Yeah
01:09:50
Speaker
But yeah, for anyone curious, initially I was using a video editing software called Shotcut to edit the podcast. The only reason being that once I cut up the episodes, then I could export it as an MP4 and 3. But yeah, fun fact, turns out my computer no longer likes Shotcut, so instead what I've been using is Audacity, which I'm getting used to now, and I feel as if it's a lot better. But yeah, in case anybody wonders what the change is, yeah, it's Audacity.
01:10:20
Speaker
Great program, by the way. Absolutely fantastic, but just in case anyone wonders. And yeah, once that's done, it gets exported into YouTube, Anchor, and Anchor as well. And once it's uploaded to Anchor, that goes to like iTunes, Spotify, Castbox. It's amazing. I love Anchor. Not sponsored by them, but that's where we host the podcast and yeah.
01:10:41
Speaker
It's an amazing tool. I would wholeheartedly recommend. If anybody is thinking about starting a podcast, I would recommend Anchor. I think it's very easy to use. You can edit, or not edit, but you can choose what audio snippets you want in, swap them about. It's great. It's 100% awesome. So yeah, that's my plug for the day. Sponsored by...
01:11:08
Speaker
Anchor, shadow legends. But no, that's great. Next question. Oh, I'm going to throw this one to you. Which chat so do you feel is underappreciated? Oh, I don't feel I'm qualified to speak about this one because you obviously know the downloads and everything and the viewing and listening activity on them. I mean, the one I'm going to pick here is I think that
01:11:28
Speaker
that your second episode with Super Shadow, where you both talked about Sonic 06, is underappreciated, purely because I'm going to presume Sega haven't listened to it yet, because if they did listen to it, then both of you would be hired by now to Sonic Team, and Sonic would be in a lot more capable hands, as you both expertly broke down what's gone wrong and why this step Sega's made with Sonic of the Year. So I'm going to think that one is the underappreciated one.
01:11:57
Speaker
It's like, what's wrong with it? Everything's wrong with it. I'm actually trying to think of ones that we've done. There are a couple of them where I've looked at the numbers, and again, the numbers are everything in the podcast. I love doing them. I'm assuming you love them as well.
01:12:17
Speaker
I'm taking a huge leap of faith here, like, please tell me you do it, like an Assassin's Creed leap of faith here. It's a 15 episode, I better be honest. I love them. I think the Heavy Rain one, although it's early days, I feel as if that's kind of underappreciated, judging by how many people have listened to it so far, and I feel as if it will grow as soon as people start listening to it. I thought the indie games, I know I think that was one I did with Craig. Oh exactly, yeah.
01:12:43
Speaker
Yeah, that one was a bit like, I love doing that because we actually deep-dived into the world of indie games against like AAA titles and things. It was a really interesting topic and I feel as if, although it did get good numbers, I feel as if that could have had maybe a bit of a boost. I was going to say our daily premonition one but yeah that's got like some of the top views or listen tries. So I'll like,
01:13:07
Speaker
Yeah, probably not, and our Silent Night Deadly Night is probably our best episode. Oh no, sorry, it's our second best episode, because our best episode is our Halo retrospective, so there you go. But it's not far off, I have to say. That's a shame the indie game zone isn't, because that was a really good discussion.
01:13:25
Speaker
I mean I suppose the other one is like just the streamer spotlight episodes I would say. It is weird because although they're underappreciated on Anchor so I'm assuming that not many people listen to it in like Anchor Spotify and such but they'll listen to it on YouTube which I thought was quite interesting. So like to give kind of context like we also upload these to YouTube
01:13:46
Speaker
because the thinking is if anybody's not got access to Anchor or any of these podcasts even, then at least they can listen to it over on YouTube. Have it on in the background while they're doing the dishes. Shout out to our dishwasher fans out there, which is everybody probably, I would hope. Wash your dishes guys, it's 2021.
01:14:09
Speaker
and yeah sometimes like the views for that are fantastic and then I'll look at it in comparison to Anchor and it's not as great so it's like I feel as if it's like it's just time that the podcast episodes need like it's just waiting for people to kind of listen discover and as I said find your nearest granny or grandpa I don't care if they're yours or not just just put chat tsunami in front of them get those numbers up
01:14:37
Speaker
But yeah, jokes aside, Geoff, I do think, you know, like, if I was being sly, I would be like, I feel as if they're all underappreciated. The correct answer! Yeah, the correct answer, all of them. Oh god. It's like, you know when you look at the back of a textbook and you get, like, the wrong answer? It's like, wait a minute, how's it 33? And it's like, huh, okay. How many chatanami episodes have there been? It's like, huh, okay.
01:15:04
Speaker
Wrong answer! And the final question, what are your inspirations for podcasts slash your sale of podcasting? Good question, not a good question. I kind of said like our inspiration for the episodes is a lot of like what we really like or what kind of interests us and there's like you know or like trying to tie it into things I mean
01:15:26
Speaker
I feel like I'm very bad for being like, oh, sad suits. Look at these anniversaries coming up. You're probably like absolutely sick of me, like, telling you all the anniversaries of games and films that are coming up. Trust me, I appreciate it.
Interest-Driven Content Over Trends
01:15:40
Speaker
I'm like, oh, my God, I don't even know. I'm on anniversary. I'm on anniversary watch. It's like...
01:15:45
Speaker
It's like you know you get those awkward films where it's like the couple in one of them's like really angry and the other person doesn't know what it is. Like what day it is and you're just like do you know what day it is Satsu? It's like no I don't. It's the 20th anniversary of X-Mokes. I thought you would remember. It's like I'm so sorry. We have a whole episode on it. It's like well it's not enough. Let's do another one.
01:16:10
Speaker
Or the N64 one? Was it the N64 anniversary? That's true. That's good anniversary this year, yeah. 25, sorry. 25, yeah. We'll need to do one on that, because you did mention that a while ago. And we have it on the list for all those like... We've got a list of anniversaries on the document as well with everything this year.
01:16:30
Speaker
Yeah, people will be looking at it like, why are they so obsessed with anniversaries? And it's like, trust me, the content, we need the content. Yeah, I would agree with that. I think we always do, you know, we do podcast episodes on topics that we are interested in.
01:16:45
Speaker
This is something I've learned with streaming as well and I don't know if you feel the same but it's like it is one thing if we just followed the trends which don't get me wrong we just said oh yeah anniversary you know which we sometimes do but then we go into games like heavy rain which let's face it heavy rain like has a cult following at best
01:17:05
Speaker
Nowadays, I don't see anybody in mainstream spheres like saying Heavy Rain is great, you know, in 2021. Same with Deadly Premonition. I'm just trying to think of what other ones that we've done. Let me actually have a look, you know, Starship Troopers. Bioshock Infinite even, although that's fantastic. You don't use many. That's probably more popular than Deadly Premonition.
01:17:32
Speaker
You've got Dred, which, again, great film, but kind of on the thing. Well, the read. Okay, maybe. Super Mario Bros? Yeah. Under appreciated. That's true. The Timothy Dalton films as well. Very true. You know, because that's the thing. We could have done a general James Bond, you know, like Top 10 lists or something like that on the run up to the film that still isn't out yet.
01:17:56
Speaker
but it is coming apparently. Apparently it is meant to be coming out this year, so they keep saying... Yeah, the final trailer after like what, two years of advertising? Supposedly it's meant to be coming out, so maybe we'll like do an episode on it if we ever get the chance to see
01:18:13
Speaker
I don't know yeah we basically just do topics that we find interesting really yeah because I mean if we didn't find them interesting or find like anything interesting to talk about them you know it wouldn't make good content we would just be kind of sitting here like saying let's say for example Super Mario it's like Super Mario is a franchise from you know when you're typing Wikipedia on your
01:18:36
Speaker
It is a franchise from the 1980s starring John Littner. Continuing on and on. The joke is getting old. It is that balance. You have to feel kind of passionate about what you're talking about. Otherwise, because do you feel as if that's the case that if you're listening to like a podcast or just in general someone talking about something they're not passionate about, do you think that kind of carries over?
01:19:02
Speaker
I think you can definitely tell, can't you? Why would you? It's hard to get enthused about something that you know you aren't. You don't at least have some interest in, or some passion or love for, so you can definitely tell. It's like, remember those old presentations you used to do in school, where you had to stand up and be like, today I am going to be talking about the railways in the UK.
01:19:26
Speaker
The locomotive, as it was known, you know, it was very stilted, you were nervous, you know. God, I'm getting flashbacks just thinking about that. As well, sorry, I'm just looking at the second part of this question where it says, your style of podcasting. And I'm going to be honest, I am in the same boat as you, Adam. I really didn't. And again, same as streaming.
01:19:44
Speaker
I didn't really watch a lot of streamers before I got into streaming, and it's the same with podcasting. I didn't listen to a lot of podcasts. Not out of malice or being a contrarian to say, I refuse to listen to this podcast. But just generally, it just never came up.
01:20:00
Speaker
that I thought, you know, oh, I should really listen to this podcast. It was just more kind of like a thoughtful, huh, okay, I'm getting into this world. It's like, you know, when you start a new hobby, you try and get into the different spheres of, right, what is this about? Like, what are other people doing and things? And I think, like, our style
01:20:19
Speaker
especially, it's just kind of developed because you actually pointed this out. I can't remember when it was but you were saying, I think you introduced one of the, I think it was the narrative versus gameplay episode that you introduced it. I think I'm, oh. I'm trying to. I think I might have. No, I think, I introduced the 2007 in video, video games. Oh, was it that one? Yeah. No, it's just that one.
01:20:44
Speaker
Yeah, it's just the only reason I remember that is because you were saying, oh, I'm going to introduce it like you're iconic. Hello, everyone. Which is something that although I keep doing in the episodes, it's something I never really noticed. And I don't know why, because I start every episode by saying, hello, everybody, and welcome to the X episode of Chad Tsunami. But I never picked it up myself. I think you were just like, I'm going to do the hello there. It's like, it's iconic now. It's a thing. Yeah, we can't change it.
01:21:15
Speaker
There's going to be many changes to the channel, but you know what? That's the one thing that's not going to change, is it? I shall stay the same. So I actually have a question for you. Would you be interested in doing a speed round of these questions? Well, I feel speedrunning, like, despite the fact neither of us are speedrunners, I feel like speedrunning has become synonymous with chat tsunami and with your streaming, so let's do it.
01:21:41
Speaker
I mean, you're not wrong. I was just wondering, do you want to read these ones out or will I just fire them at you? What do you think? Erm, I don't mind doing- why don't you fire them at me? Okay, so first one. What is the game of the year? At the minute, Resident Evil Village for me. I would agree with that because I haven't played any games from this year.
01:22:02
Speaker
a genius because of like streaming things and chat tsunami I genuinely haven't had time so yeah that's my answer Resident Evil Village yeah great game um the big lady I hear she's she's very nice I don't know why yet but people keep telling me so yeah
01:22:20
Speaker
10 out of 10, game of the year. IGN, phone me up, give me a job. You heard it there. You heard it in your phone. OK, next question. Will you adopt me? JK, hope you're doing good. But yeah, adopt me, please. I make great brownies. We will contact you after the stream. It's all a yes. I love brownies.
01:22:40
Speaker
That is true. Home baking is always welcome in Tratsunami. And by extension. See once I get a P- well in fact no. I was going to say once I get a P.O. box but can you imagine all the mouldy cakes? The rich cover. Yeah. That's abandoned that P.O. box after a while. Yeah. It would be more like a bio weapon box than a Tratsunami.
01:22:59
Speaker
That'd be Resident Evil 9 to be sitting in your PO box. Oh Jesus, imagine. Next question. What are you scared of? Rats. Bees. Well sorry, more wasps, but yeah. The bees bite. I mean, yeah, bees have started to kind of warm up too, but can you imagine any other animal with a knife up its backside running at you going, I'm going to stab you. Why do wasps get a free pass on that? It's their point, good point.
01:23:23
Speaker
yes if you could interview someone who would it be i would honestly like to interview see some of the bad films that we've done like if we ever got the chance if we got big enough to interview like some of the actors yeah say james newan oh james newan i will leave this call i will leave this call say james newan
01:23:43
Speaker
I mean, after a minute, I think my dream one would be someone like Swery. I think I would be a bit of a language barrier granted, but if that was ever possible, or anybody from like the Deadly Premonition team, because I know people have like done like interviews with the, I can't remember what, I think it's called the Greenvale Podcast?
01:24:01
Speaker
When I was doing research for the Daedra Premonition episode, there was a podcast I stumbled across and it was so good. They basically talked about Daedra Premonition, but they interviewed one of the voice actors in it. It was awesome. Anyway, sorry, what about yourself?
01:24:19
Speaker
I've been watching quite a few things on the Sega and Nintendo console wars back in the 90s, and there's a man called Tom Kalinsky, who was head of Sega America, who's kind of responsible for boosting the popularity of Sega and making them actually a legitimate challenger to Nintendo, and that's the time when Sonic was created. He had all those great adverts where they made fun of Nintendo and they were like, Sega! So I'd love to interview him, because he seems like a fascinating guy, and he's like,
01:24:48
Speaker
I'd love to hear the stories from that time, so I'd pick him. That'd be awesome. What historical figure would you like to have dinner with? Henry VIII, because we'd have a sumptuous feast. You know what? I was thinking of someone better, but you know what? Henry VIII, yeah. I'm doing dinner together. You know, fantastic logic. Next question. Let's just say Henry VIII and move on. Nothing I see is going to trouble that.
01:25:13
Speaker
I could be like, oh yes, like Flora's Nightingale or someone from, you know, like, I'm really important figures, like, no, no, no, Henry VIII. We've got to have that, like, you know, that huge, like, comical turkey you get on the wooden table. I want the pie where the blackbirds fly out of it and everything. Yes. Just as long as they don't, just as long as they don't drop, like, a bullhead or something on the table. Fair point.
01:25:37
Speaker
Yes, it's usually a bad sign, but anyway, sorry. Next question. If you ruled the world, what would you do to change it? More Chatsunami. That is the correct answer. All the Chatsunami episodes. That's what my answer says for the last couple of questions. Yeah, what would you do? No, I'm also going to pick that. I was originally going to say take the cast of Love Island and fire them into the sun.
01:26:03
Speaker
No, make them listen to Chatsunami and then fire them into the sun. Because the chances are they'll probably be confused and they'll have to listen to it again, so that means double the views for us, or double the listens for us, and then fire them. And then we can make it like a yearly, like, tribute, like the Hunger Games, the Chatsu games. Anyway, what superpowers would you have if you could choose
01:26:25
Speaker
I would pick teleportation. Same. It seems like it was handy. The teleportation or time stopping. Not because it's a Jojo reference in case anyone's wondering but just I think it would be so handy to be like I'm just gonna stop time and you know walk to the city or something. You're like imagine how peaceful it would be. Although then again there is the worry though that like you still keep aging while time's stopped so it's like you'll get to the city and they'll be like
01:26:48
Speaker
Hello there! You're like, oh my god! What happened to your face? Tell me four series that you like the most. Will we do two and two? Yeah, I'd say just two and two. I would say twin peaks. Definitely for one of them. Like, I'm trying not to see. Do you want to pick like a... Do you want to pick like a TV film one? Do you want to pick a video game one? We each do that and there it are. Oh, four series. I don't know why I was thinking I just...
01:27:09
Speaker
I don't know why it was just kind of like oh yeah it has to be TV series because I'm like what have I watched in Netflix recently? Oh yeah they definitely have to be like Sonic and things like that. I'm unashamedly a Sonic fan so sue me. Good for you. I mean you're just patting me in the head like good for you. This is my last episode you freak.
01:27:32
Speaker
But yeah, what would you say? My favourite game series is the Batman Arkham games. Oh of course. My favourite TV series is Seinfeld. Oh yeah, that's true. Seinfeld is great though. Amazing. I mean I suppose the Shrains is by all but it doesn't have the same... Seinfeld. Sorry guys, but Seinfeld's better.
01:27:51
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definitive case clothes moving on quickly before we get cancelled sea or mountain um i prefer the sea but i consider myself more of a mountain yeah i think the sea is more aesthetically pleasing like mountains are cool and everything you know like lord of the rings and things you know like the sweeping shots of the mountains i was just gonna end that and be like yeah lord of the rings mountains and then walk away from you i suppose sea but i'm not i don't have sea legs yeah next question do you identify yourself with any song
01:28:19
Speaker
Yes, sir. I indeed can, Bucky. Why do you ask? What would you say? I mean, I've been playing Hades recently.
01:28:28
Speaker
And there's a song in there called Good Riddance. I don't think we like identify, but I like the message of like kind of ridding yourself of things that, you know, aren't good for you or whatever, or holding you back. So as a message, I like it. For the second there, I thought you were going to go with the sappy answer and go for something like a Bioshock infinite. I was like, hmm. I've made my bed and now I'm lying in it.
01:28:57
Speaker
When you were little, what did you want to be when you grew up? Astronaut? Yeah, pretty much the same. Or dinosaur, hunter, expert, person, MD. That was a bit popular. Yeah Jurassic Park was very popular so... Stegosaurus is for life. Screw you guys. See all these people going saying, oh the Tyrannosaurus Rex, no screw you, the Stegosaurus for the win. Anyway, sorry.
01:29:26
Speaker
Which fictional character do you identify with the most? A better version of myself. A red panda, apparently.
01:29:37
Speaker
Seems to be. That seems to be my whole identity in 2020. Probably for me, probably Max Payne, in the third game, because he's a guy who's just out of shape, like can't be bothered, and keeps messing up. And I just really tend to fight with those three things. I mean, the only thing I don't have is the painkiller addiction. But I'm slightly addicted to video games, so, you know, video games, painkillers, they're about the same thing. Tomato, rhubarb, you know, same thing.
01:30:07
Speaker
Will we do just a handful more? Yeah, a handful more. Do you want to put the last couple in? Yeah, okay. What other things do you do in your free time? To be honest, I really mostly game. It was funny, I was actually speaking to you at Greenfields about this recently. I was like, I feel like I should try and do something else, but I just love video games.
01:30:27
Speaker
I mean, I also like, you know, me and my auntie have a dog, so like play with him quite a lot. And we watch, we watch some films, we watch TV. Oh my God, we just finished up something recently.
01:30:40
Speaker
This is my, my mind is like a seven now. Apologies. So we just did finish up a TV series recently, but I forgot my mind. I also really like to read history, history books. So about those things. I too, I too do these things as well. Now, like I wish I could say I game, which technically I do, but haven't been gaming as much because I've been streaming. And I feel as if because I've been streaming, I don't get the chance to game a lot. So I'm kind of like,
01:31:03
Speaker
Oh god yes it's not great. What I also like to do in this kind of like out of the field but I like to learn languages so I like to learn my main languages that I've been learning so far although I took a bit of a break because of streaming and things as Spanish and Mandarin so yep any people who you know those languages or want to learn them please feel free please please contact me please I need help I need help more for more I need help please. No jokes aside I usually like doing that just kind of like
01:31:32
Speaker
looking for ideas with editing, that kind of thing. Just rewatching bad films like Starship Trooper. If I know how to tell why, it's an amazing film. Please go watch it. It's a good film. It's a good one. Oh, here's a good one. What topic would you add to a perfect pizza? I think I know your answer to this. The one that you picked up.
01:31:51
Speaker
So barbecue chicken. That was really tasty actually. Yes, and for me I would say vegetables, more vegetables, peppers especially. What is your worst and best horror movie ever? Oh, I think the worst one probably has to be that Alone in the Dark. I can't think of anything else worse horror film than that. I think my favourite, I think the best is probably John Carpenter's The Thing. I think I really like the kind of psychological horror in that and yeah.
01:32:18
Speaker
I think for me it's definitely a toss up, the worst horror film I've ever seen. I can't even remember the name of it, that's how bad it was but it's a toss up between that. So basically it was a film where it was your stereotypical slasher with a mask going around killing people and then plot twist turns out it's like you know it's like a bunch of people doing it and you're kind of like that's just
01:32:40
Speaker
dumb it's it was just stupid and black sheep as well that was that was just dumb oh boy it was not a lot of fun best horror film i like scream i have to say oh scream was good yeah like i know that's more of like a deconstruction but i liked it although does hot fuzz count as a horror film
01:33:00
Speaker
If it does then nah. If it does then nah, if not, I do prefer Hot Fuzz to Shaun of the Dead so I'm pointing that out right now. That's the end of the podcast because I prefer Shaun of the Dead. No more! Well we can both agree that the third one was the worst surely. Oh what was the call? World's End. Take my silences. I was waiting for it to hot fuzz.
01:33:30
Speaker
no okay next week that's what we're going to be talking about there's no way i have to do this to watch them again we do some some of them but definitely that is my favorite oh absolutely i mean there's horror season coming up so yeah definitely got ourselves a topic ladies and gentlemen nice okay and last question of the night be honest did you like the star wars prequels
01:33:51
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and the new movies. I do not like the Star Wars prequel. Well, the first one is campy fun. It's like Batman and Robin territory. It's fun to just laugh at. The second film is dreadful. It is awful in every respect.
01:34:06
Speaker
And then the third one is like just below mediocre and you know, it's fine. It's okay. And I really like, I liked episode seven because it reminded me of episode four, my favorite Star Wars. And I really, really liked episode eight and did a lot of interesting stuff. And I did not like episodes because I felt they just threw everything interesting that eight did away. So.
01:34:26
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I'm in a similar boat, at least for the prequels. Like the first one, great. Second one, well, great in the sense it's like it's funny to go back and laugh at it. The second one is, you're right, it's terrible. It's the only one, like the old ones I will not defend. Like if I saw it getting beat up in an alley, I would just
Star Wars Sequel Opinions
01:34:44
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be like, I'm just like, nope, I'm going to join in.
01:34:49
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here. Oh my lettuce. I'm going in. Now this is podracing. I liked Revenge of the Sith though. I thought that was good. In this is a phrase I use a lot, but for the sequels, is it the seventh one? Yeah, the seventh one. The seventh one was okay. As you said, it too reminded me of the old ones. Eight and nine
01:35:09
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yeah it was just a pretty face there was nothing going on underneath there was to me personally it was visually amazing but yeah everything else story wise i left with more questions than i did answers oh wait it's okay the sequel will explain this and you go in and it's like oh now i have even more questions what the hell yeah well definitely need to do like a chat zoo on that one yeah star there you go star wars month
01:35:36
Speaker
Star Wars Month, Cornetto Trilogy Month, you know. We've got a lot of months coming up, so... Indeed. Yeah, cannot wait for that. And speaking of cannot wait for that, yeah, that is the end of the episode. Adam, as I said before, and I'll say it again till the end of time, thank you so much for not only being the best host ever, but yeah, just joining me on this 50 episode adventure.
01:35:59
Speaker
Well, thank you so much for having me. It's honestly been a blast. Even though you made me watch Birdemic, I can forgive that because I've had such fun. I've had such fun doing this crazy little podcast with you. And I hope to be here for another 50 and beyond. So, you know, long, long chat on me, brain.
01:36:20
Speaker
It'll be fine. So yeah, before we finish up, a couple of announcements before we leave off on this note. Of course, this is the 50th episode. So this is indeed marking the end of, yeah, the end of season one. So if you haven't bought the battle pass yet, then you can indeed get your mother's credit card and, hold on, I'm getting a call. Yeah, okay, okay, right. For legal reasons, this is a joke. Do not get your mother's credit card and give me money.
01:36:50
Speaker
For legal reasons, do not. Get your own credit card and then get my card. Get your own credit card. Be a man or a woman. Get your own credit. Nah, jokes aside, this is the last episode for our very first season of Chat Tsunami, which has been such a blast to do both with everyone involved and especially with you, Adam.
Season One Wrap-Up and Future Plans
01:37:12
Speaker
So once again, thank you so much for joining me in Season 1 and just this absolute roading adventure.
01:37:20
Speaker
For season two we are indeed going to be shaking things up a bit both with the format and of course the way we're actually going to be presenting these episodes. This is probably going to be one of the last episodes that we're doing live and we're going to kind of transition more into uploading them weekly but recording them off stream just in case anybody wonders or thinks where's Chatsunami? Nobody asks how's Chatsunami? Everyone says where's Chatsunami?
01:37:48
Speaker
That's what we're going to be doing. We're going to be recording this off stream which again I'm really excited to kind of shake things up and start doing it like that. So it is going to be a lot of fun so I'm excited for it and I know you are as well. Oh me too, me too. The fun doesn't stop here. Oh absolutely. The roller coaster's not done yet. I want to get off the Chateau ride. You'll get off when I tell you to get.
01:38:13
Speaker
And yeah, we are also going to be starting a new series for Chatsunami. We have dubbed as Chatsunani. Any anime fans, you'll be like, I know what that is. For any non-anime fans, you're like, what the hell does that mean? Yeah, nani is basically the, I want to say it's the Japanese word for rote, but I'm sure they've got like hundreds of ways to say it. So I apologize. As I said, learning Spanish in Chinese and I'm not learning Japanese yet. I'm okay with it. But yeah, it's like, it's a common thing said in anime. So yeah.
01:38:42
Speaker
Chat soon, Nani. It's gonna be cold. And basically, it'll be really just between myself, you and our very good friend Green Shield. We're gonna be talking about anime, different topics, just regarding anime. We're gonna get like a couple of friends along the way to drop in, I think. And yeah, it is gonna be fun.
01:39:01
Speaker
Have a look out for that, okay? Have a look out, both of us. Watch for space. Watch for space, indeed. Thank you all so, so much for joining us in this amazing 50th episode. Thank you again, Adam. I'm going to say it for the third time. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
01:39:17
Speaker
Oh my god, you're in my living room, what the? And yeah, if you want to see more of our chat-synamic content while you're getting yourselves hyped up for Season 2, so probably in about two weeks I would say, give or take. One week if you're listening to this episode.
01:39:34
Speaker
for season two and yeah if you want to see more of the Chatsunami episodes you can catch us on Anchor, Spotify, YouTube and yeah iTunes, Castbox you know what you got a podcast up look up Chatsunami we will most likely be there if not a delete that podcast up and get a better one from that has us on it
01:39:57
Speaker
Wait, wait, wait. Sorry, get the phone call. Yep. OK, I'll tell them. Sorry, for legal reasons, that is also a joke. Do not delete your podcast app.
01:40:06
Speaker
But yeah, find us on Anchor, Spotify, YouTube and iTunes, all good podcast apps. We will be there. We will be there. And yeah, we are also on Twitter as well under the name ChatsunamiPod. So if you want to keep up with more updates about the series, feel free to check us out there. And if you want to see more of the gaming content that we've got, you can catch us on Twitter.
01:40:27
Speaker
Instagram, TikTok, YouTube, Twitch as well of course, and Facebook under the name Satsanami42. If you want to see our antics on Heavy Rain, Breath of the Wild, Warzone as well, Warzone, we did do a great Warzone one. Yeah, you can catch us there under the name Satsanami42 on YouTube and yeah, I think that's it. Adam, do you have any closing remarks before we end this iconic episode?
01:40:52
Speaker
Just it's been a hell of a ride. It's been a hell of a ride up till now. As I say, we're not stopping any time soon. So thank you for joining us. And please stay with us because we've got a lot of great content coming up. I promise. Please, please, please. I swear. Honest governor. It's like, I want to go home. It's like, you'll go home when you record 50 more episodes.
01:41:20
Speaker
So yeah guys, as always, stay safe, stay awesome and most importantly, do you want to say it Adam? Oh, stay hydrated. Bye guys. Bye bye.