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Episode 92: They're A Sex Cult With Flips
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Take a seat on the couch as Garrett and Derrick chat Danhausen, New Japan Pro Wrestling of America, AEW, NXT, WWE2K and more!
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Audience Reaction and Fan Engagement
00:00:00
Speaker
Hey everybody, welcome to another episode of Predetermined, a pro wrestling hangout. Thank you so much for joining us, whether you're a long time listener or, you know, just a friend passing through town and you're just stopping by. Thank you for coming. We appreciate it. I am your host, Garrett Callender, with me, as always, the voice of the people, Derek Alpin. I was bestowed that title because of the spanking that I gave to WWE last week, which apparently a lot of people related to.
00:00:28
Speaker
Yeah, it seemed like people really felt close to you last week. Apparently, but I don't think it was hard to do, considering a lot of people shared my opinions. But we did have a lot of people giving feedback to us on social media and through texts throughout the week about the quality of our last episode, and especially in regards to the way the episode opened last week. Yeah, people like the fanfiction.
00:00:59
Speaker
Well, that's where I get to surprise you here, because I got an email today from somebody and there is a follow up. Oh, boy. Last week's intro. I'm just messing with you. We didn't. Oh, you son of a bitch. You son of a bitch. You son of a bitch, housing. You got really excited, didn't you?
00:01:19
Speaker
I got so excited. I also didn't check our email this week. So we may very well have gotten more and we just don't know yet. We could be sitting on some of the most erotic things you've ever heard, my friend. Did you hear back from your dad at all on that hot intro last week? Yeah, I was talking to him on the phone and I said, yeah, it seemed like everybody liked the intro. And his response was, well, not everybody.
00:01:48
Speaker
That's the most straight-laced, straightforward answer a man could give you in that scenario. I still don't know who he's talking about. Well, I just want to say, Bruce, if you didn't like the episode, you're allowed to go on iTunes and give us one star if you don't like the show. According to you, Garrett, one star gets just as much help as five stars does.
00:02:13
Speaker
Yeah, you can tell me to fuck off or that you love us, but either way, iTunes reads that as a review. That helps us, so let us know. It was a controversial opening last week, and you switched up the intro a little bit this week, which I was not expecting. Was that a note that you made?
00:02:33
Speaker
No, it just came out of my body, Derek, as I pressed record. I like it. I like it a lot. We're doing new things. There's new wrestling to be observed and taken in. And we're back with a new episode. So I don't know. Are we going to do our old shtick here? You mean, are we still going to hit the music? Yeah, because we didn't do it the same way last week. Well, as long as our cum works,
00:03:02
Speaker
I think our comms working just fine. Hit our goddamn music.
White Claw and Wrestling Fan Culture
00:03:38
Speaker
Last week was the most anyone has ever tweeted the word come at me all week long.
00:03:44
Speaker
I find that hard to believe. Yeah. I was exaggerating, but at least top five. It was up there. I don't know. It was number one. Oh, we're clawing already. Well, it's the intro. We passed it. It's claw time. I saw you take great offense to the idea that white claw summer's over. Could you explain to me why that pisses you off so much? Global warming.
00:04:11
Speaker
we get to have White Claw summer forever. Like what kind of, why would we ever say it's over? As long as it's gonna be 100 degrees in October, we're gonna crack claws, baby. Like the flavored seltzer water, alcoholic seltzer water trend. I mean, there's a lot of brands out there right now. Maybe people have moved on from White Claw, but you're still on that ship.
00:04:35
Speaker
You're still riding the white claw, the USS White Claw. I've been watching Beyond Wrestling on IndependentWrestling.tv lately, and last night I was watching one where a guy in the front row, only person in the entire room with a beverage in hand, was drinking a truly, and I thought, what an asshole.
00:04:57
Speaker
You felt like he was a traitor? What did he do? Sneak that in there? No one's just selling truly unless it's a regal theater. Maybe, maybe he had a conversation with his friends before the show. I was like, I get it. I get the whole, you know, alcoholic hard seltzer thing, but I just, I don't like the way white claws taste. I like truly. He's a fool. He's a fool. It's not even subjective. It is one is easily better than the other.
00:05:22
Speaker
Let's bring in another opinion. Friend of the show, Queen of the Ring, has said something similar, that she actually might like that better than White Claw's. I mean, if you're trying to get me to call Queen of the Ring a stupid idiot on our show. I'm calling your bluff. Are you gonna call her out too?
Intergender Matches and Wrestling Insights
00:05:42
Speaker
Is she doing this just to fuck with you? Hey, we agree on a lot of things, but to me, truly is a heel turn.
00:05:53
Speaker
Hey, you can't even say shit about me. I haven't had a white cloth since you left. It's like, you know, if you're out there drinking truly, you're probably also using Bing as your main search engine. Man, there's a lot of spite in your voice and I heard you drink that. Yeah, I came out hot. I took a gulp.
00:06:16
Speaker
You know Garrett's feeling some type of way when you can hear the swallow live. Gulp through the mic. Fuck you! Man, you got some stuff to get off your chest last week. I did it, er, this week. I did it last week.
00:06:30
Speaker
You got stuff to say? You got stuff you wanna talk about? Well, if you heard how this opened, I was completely fine, and you're the one that tried to get me pissed off by bringing up White Claw Summer being over. Well, I just, it's, look, the claw has been relevant to the show for a number of months now, and when I saw you express an opinion about it, like, I mean, bring it up on the show. We air our grievances here, clearly.
00:06:58
Speaker
No. No. What happened? So hey, can I talk about a match from Beyond Wrestling for a second?
00:07:09
Speaker
Yeah, you can do whatever you want, man. It's a fucking wrestling show, man. I figure the people are like, it's been seven minutes, stop with the claws. Is it really still a pro wrestling show? Not anymore. I was going to say, the people who've been listening to this whole thing, I think they know they're getting way more than a pro wrestling show when they listen to us. Basically, what you're getting out of this show is dumb shit that you would hear in the line of a wrestling show. That you are basically overhearing our conversation as we wait to go into this empty Ring of Honor building.
00:07:39
Speaker
Yeah, but I think people who were in line next to us at a wrestling show would be happy to hear what we have to say. You think so? I think so.
00:07:49
Speaker
Wait, wait, wait, wait, back it up. Didn't we go to a Ring of Honor show a couple of years ago where there was some guy who, when he left the line from talking to us, said something condescending and called us Marx? Yeah. It was a guy of a wheelchair van pulled up, and this guy got out, rolled out in his chair, somehow just zeroed in on me, rolled over, came over, started talking to me.
00:08:18
Speaker
And then someone's like, hey, Jim, whatever, come over here. And he said, just a second. I'm talking to these fucking marks. And I'm just like, what the fuck? Like it just. And you've been scarred by that word ever since. I know that's like a no no word for you. Well, it just it feels it feels like it's supposed to be offensive. Does it does it does it rip open a scab? Like when you hear that word directed at you, does it feel like the person saying that you're really stupid?
00:08:49
Speaker
Is that what you hear? When somebody calls me a Mark, I feel the way you feel when Terry Bradshaw tries to explain wrestling on TV. Yeah, I mean, that's infuriating. Thankfully, I've only had to have that happen to me once. I think that this football thing, the sports stars coming into our pro wrestling is bigger than just pro wrestling, Derek. How can it be bigger than that?
00:09:17
Speaker
This week's Star Wars tickets went on sale. And for the first time in a long time, I was not online when they went on sale to get my tickets, like, for the earliest show.
Pop Culture and Wrestling Personas
00:09:28
Speaker
Same, Derek. This is the first time I don't have tickets to open in Night of a Star Wars. Because in order to do it, I was gonna have to watch a goddamn football game and wait until a commercial? No. No. You guys need to quit trying to control my other interests around the NFL. It didn't happen.
00:09:46
Speaker
I think that's fair. I didn't, I think they did it like the last time too. And the thing is I have watched the trailer for the new star Wars movie and it has me very, very excited. And I will go see it in theater. I might even find a way to weasel in that I do go to a very early showing of the movie right now. It's just not as big of a priority as it used to be. And I don't know why actually I do know why, but I'll talk to you about that outside of the show.
00:10:15
Speaker
Do you have a Star Wars conversation in your heart that you want to put on a wrestling show? It actually has nothing to do with Star Wars. But no, I don't want anybody explaining pro wrestling to me other than me.
00:10:37
Speaker
I don't want Meltzer. I don't want Terry Bradshaw. I don't want you. I don't want some jackass in the front row drinking a truly. I narrate. I am my own. I am my own ringside commentary.
00:10:52
Speaker
You were the voice of the people and you were also the people. Apparently. You wanted to talk about a match that you watched. Yeah. So this Beyond Wrestling show that I was watching the opening match was Wheeler Yuta versus Kimberly. I have seen Wheeler Yuta a handful of times. I just cannot get into that guy. There's something that
00:11:20
Speaker
It's not even, he doesn't upset me, just he does nothing for me. And I think a big part of it is he comes out in a scary mask and then takes it off to reveal the least terrifying person I've ever seen. And then continues to be baby face. Why the scary man? I don't think he understands his own character. Why are you wearing that mask, Wheeler Yuta? This could easily turn into an episode of just you and me going back and forth with people that we just don't get.
00:11:52
Speaker
We could do a whole episode on this. So, in our gender match, I agree with you. It's like, fuck it. What's going on with Big Mike? What's going on with Big Mike Elgin? I guess he's fucking big. And then Brock Lesnar's like, hey, Big Mike, can I get your autograph? I'm just fucking with you.
00:12:13
Speaker
So Kimberly, so I'm getting ready to switch the match, because there's just something about Wheeler Yuta that makes me want to change the channel. But then Kimberly, as they're announcing their names, comes out hot and just punches them in the back of the head, goes heel for this in her gender match, and is beating the absolute shit out of him. And I put the remote down and kept watching because this was incredible. She was the voice of the people for me. She was my you.
00:12:45
Speaker
Like you just, you felt like a pro wrestler was expressing your frustration at another character. Yeah. Like willing to drop all babyface tendencies to deal with something that doesn't make sense. This guy sucks. So she beat the shit out of him. He doesn't suck. He's fine, but he just, he's not for me, not my flavor of ice cream. You get nervous because we have a podcast. I can always tell you want to retract a statement. You'll say something negative about somebody and they're like, Oh shit. What if they listen? Okay. They don't suck. I'm just not into it.
00:13:14
Speaker
No, but that is what it is. You know, like there's obviously somebody who likes him because he keeps getting booked. Obviously. Is this? I don't know. Either way, he won with a roll up and I love that she looked pissed off and embarrassed that he beat her. And it was just such a fun dynamic for an inner gender match that I felt like I hadn't seen before.
00:13:37
Speaker
Well, yeah, I mean, let's go, I mean, if you go back into our archives a little bit, we did a whole discussion on how fucked up your views on intergender wrestling are because typically you are scared shitless of the male wrestler just being abusive as shit to the female wrestler in intergender matches. It makes you uncomfortable.
00:14:00
Speaker
So I can understand why all of a sudden the female in the match being the heel would spice things up for you a little bit and catch your intrigue. Especially when it's against a wrestler that I kinda wanna see get beaten up. But is it especially gratifying for you when it's a woman? Kinda.
00:14:22
Speaker
I dig your honesty, dude. She was, I think she's awesome. I love her to Kimberly too. Yeah. I just, she came out and I was just like, uh, what is this going to, I don't think I'm going to care about this. I don't even, I don't want to watch him hit her. I don't believe that he can beat her. And then he kind of couldn't. So I have a confession to make. I hope it's big. We were supposed to talk about JP Warhorse and Danhausen.
00:14:52
Speaker
Hold on, you don't know where I'm going with this. I heard we were supposed to and I'm ready. Oh, I mean, I'm still prepared to do that. That was basically what I was asked to do. I basically just went on a deep dive into Danhausen.
00:15:09
Speaker
Because I've you've been throwing the name around a lot. I really haven't seen any of his shit. And you sent me a match and I watched the match and I wanted to yell at you when I saw the environment in which this match was taking place because you know how I feel about this kind of wrestling. This was a no ring match in a bar. Correct. 30 people for 30 people roughly. Somebody was wearing a Cleveland Browns jersey.
00:15:39
Speaker
Okay, so I wasn't sending you that to be like, here's a wonderful match. I was sending you that basically to show you here is there's going to be a spot in this that you enjoy a lot. Yeah, and I enjoyed it so much.
00:15:59
Speaker
So if you guys don't know who Danhausen is, hop on Twitter. I don't know what his Twitter handle is, but if you type in Danhausen, you'll definitely come across some fun shit video-wise.
00:16:15
Speaker
Garrett, I... It's like... We've been talking about Danhausen since my first sub show. But Garrett, I have never seen Danhausen. It's been you talking about Danhausen. I know, but I'm just saying, like, it's weird where he is now for mentioning him at the first sub show and how that character's evolved. So... I wouldn't... How would you go about describing... If somebody doesn't know who this is, how would you sell them on Danhausen?
00:16:44
Speaker
Dan Howson feels like he would host like a 70s creature feature marathon on Halloween night. Like Sven Gulli here in Chicago? Yes, yes. He feels like Sven Gulli. But if you also if you have not seen the TV series or the movie, What We Do in the Shadows, he really has the vibe of a vampire being followed by a documentary film crew.
00:17:12
Speaker
There's a little Tom Green mixed in there. You see Tom Green in him? I don't, not physically, but like his antics are very much like, look at this shit.
00:17:28
Speaker
So did you, you did a deep dive into his Twitter, were you watching like a bunch of the videos that he posts to promote his matches and whatnot? Yes, where he is hosting like a late night horror film and he throws up a static television set and he's advertising all the people he's going to be interviewing and having matches with in the future.
00:17:49
Speaker
My favorite part of any of those are the outtakes. I hadn't seen the outtakes. It'll like start to say something and then he'll be like, what? No, that's not. God damn it. And then like it'll just like skip back and cut to him like starting over or he'll say son of a bitch hasn't. So we were in the middle of doing a description like, OK, so.
00:18:12
Speaker
But he's got face paint on. How would you describe the face paint? Is it somewhere between like Sting and like the kids, like it's somewhere between Sting and like a full fledged Darby Allen face paint job? I was going to say it would be like if a black and white Sting had a little make out session with Captain Howdy from The Exorcist. That's very fair.
00:18:43
Speaker
Why hasn't somebody just picked up that gimmick straight up? What, does Captain Howdy be a face that appears in the rafters? Is that a registered trademark? Can you, does Warner Brothers own Captain Howdy? You need to get the rights to Captain Howdy, and you need to make a Captain Howdy movie where, like the Joker movie that just came out, he is in every single shot of the film. He is not a- Like it's a normal movie, but you work in a new way of having that face.
00:19:14
Speaker
He is not a mysterious character in this. It's a rom-com. But he is a floating head. So I did see, I watched the match. The spot that Garrett wanted me to watch specifically in this Danhausen match is he totally does the Peewee's Big Adventure Peewee Herman spot in this bar where he hops up on the bar and they begin playing tequila. By the way, I love that the bartender in this match is just as important part of the match as the referee is.
00:19:43
Speaker
He's handing out drinks. He's queuing up music, I believe. Anyways, at one point, he handed a white claw over and somebody got waterboarded with a white claw. Yeah. I mean, there were multiple drinks handed out in this match, but he 10,000 hops up on this bar. By the way, he's wrestling this match against Pretty Boy Smooth. Big guy. Looks like a real tough motherfucker. And he came out like in a mask.
00:20:11
Speaker
But he took the mask off and Danhausen hops up on the bar and they begin to play tequila, which if you've seen. You know that Peewee Herman has a very specific dance that he does when tequila comes on. And as he's doing this dance, he guys trying to hit Danhausen, he keeps kicking him in the face like in beat to the music.
00:20:36
Speaker
It's just fucking glorious. He is such a fucking good character right now. And when I first saw that guy at sub, he kind of, he felt like kind of a Finn Balor ripoff. He came out just with the paint and he had like a large nail in his mouth. Like you would bite it like Gomez bites a rose. You know what I mean? You know, like how, you know what I mean?
00:21:07
Speaker
You know what I'm saying? You know, you know, Adam's failing. But no, he in his entrance that night is he would do like, you know, a nightmare in Elm Street when the girls wrapped up in like the body bag and sliding down the hallway in the clear plastic.
00:21:23
Speaker
Yeah, he came out like that, but there's no one to drag him. So he's just like kind of wrapped up in this plastic and was just kind of rolling himself out of the curtain. And I know it was supposed to be eerie, but in a very indie wrestling setting, it made me think that maybe he wasn't the coolest dude in the world.
00:21:48
Speaker
But he is. Well, yeah, it turns out I was wrong. Jokes on you, dude. Yeah, I fuck. Yeah, I was wrong. I'm willing to say it. I saw him hanging a ball of yarn or something over Ali Cat while she's on her back and she's batting at it. He's. Why I don't know where does he go? That's a great question.
00:22:18
Speaker
Who do you see being the one to get Danhausen first? Do you think he first makes his way to a ring of honor or an impact before he makes his way to one of the others?
00:22:43
Speaker
I fucking broke Garrett. It's been a while since I've done that. I would be so happy if, you know what? Fuck it. If New Japan Pro Wrestling wants to surprise us, the internet wants this right now. Dan has an Effie.
00:23:00
Speaker
Warhorse, sign him, get him on New Japan, bring Okada over here and let me see Danhausen versus Okada. Okay, now we get to play this cool game on the podcast where we've got two subjects we definitely need to be talking about right now and somehow we gotta balance that out. Why did you send me on this Danhausen dive? Which is, I mean, I don't know if that was specifically your intent, but you definitely were like, check out this spot. And then what did you think was gonna happen after I found it?
00:23:24
Speaker
After I saw I had to go find out more I knew that you were going because he's been doing that spot pretty frequently It was a big hit went viral or at least a little viral I feel like I see a lot of people changing their name on Twitter to include housing in the titles of their names Yeah, Jeff and Jeff he did it and I've actually a lot of people on wrestle Twitter right now have the houses in there and
00:23:48
Speaker
And a couple weeks ago, I saw Ethan Page put out a tweet that the best two characters in pro wrestling right now are Danhausen and Warhorse. And who travels to more indie wrestling shows than Ethan Page? He should know. He's everywhere. He is everywhere. He's on every show.
00:24:07
Speaker
Can we rewind? Remember, Ethan Page fist bumped me at two cups stuffed. I got a thing with Ethan Page. You could have a thing with Nick Gage too now and just tell him that you think Ricky Shane Page is a piece of shit because he agrees with you. I want to get a thing between Nick Gage and Danhausen. I bet that match exists. That has to exist already. It has to, right?
00:24:36
Speaker
We're going to find out after the show. Going back, so you saw that tweet from Ethan Page. Dan House has been blowing up and you're like, I'm going to make sure this gets on his radar. It just seemed like a thing that we should have been talking about already. Well, we have plenty to talk about.
00:24:54
Speaker
We've had plenty, but you know, it's just we're leaving out some good stuff going on the Indies right now. And that just seemed like we shouldn't breeze over Danhausen. Go check out Danhausen. For sure, we shouldn't breathe over that. Keep in mind, though, in the last few weeks, the Indies went live.
00:25:11
Speaker
You mean like watching Joey Janela fight Kenny Omega on my TV today? That's exactly what I'm talking about. We'll get into that later. You need to address something because I just brought it up a minute ago. New Japan did make the fucking announcement.
New Japan Pro Wrestling Expansion: Challenges and Opportunities
00:25:26
Speaker
New Japan is apparently going to have a territory, a branch promotion in the United States. Full time. Do they know that we're like running out of wrestlers over here?
00:25:43
Speaker
Oh, I wish I wish you could have been there when I when I first got the news because I wanted to talk to you about it so bad. I didn't even know how to feel. I almost got anxiety that I had another show to watch. I didn't feel anxiety. I think my first reaction was too little too late, guys. When should they have jumped on me to say. Wait, what? When should they have done it? When should they have announced it? Should they have almost immediately like when they sold out Madison Square Garden?
00:26:13
Speaker
Correct. Well, what was the pay per view we what was that last summer where they did that big long intro where they were like they were advertising that they were trying to go international and that they had like they had people from the United States as like higher ups now. That's true. They did like run that promo a long, long time ago and then just like came over here and did three or four shows and then waited for
00:26:43
Speaker
like fucking NWA to get going. AEW's now got a spot. You know, I don't know what the fuck's going on Ring of Honor. We established that the other day because I texted you something. I texted you and Queen of the Rings something and both of you kind of had the same reaction because I said, isn't it going to be fucking wild when Marty jumps over to AEW and you both were like, oh, we forgot about Marty.
00:27:06
Speaker
For real! Like, I have not even... They had a pay-per-view the other day. I haven't tuned into Ring of Honor in so long. They have so many people over there that I think I would like. No, I guess they don't. I guess they don't. I'm sorry. I like Roosh. I like Bandito. But I would rather not have just that other wrestling show in my life right now. You don't like PCO anymore? Is he still there?
00:27:30
Speaker
I assumed. He's probably the world king. He's about to kill himself like a month or two ago. When he did his malfunction spot and jumped at first, goddamn, that's a good spot. I mean, again, going back to the New Japan thing, like, I mean, I'm not going to sit here and say don't do it or fuck you for trying. I guess in my mind is just like. Man, there's so many possibilities they could have. I mean, I guess they're going to have to build from the ground up.
00:27:59
Speaker
Cuz there was a lot of talent that got sucked up in the last year to different promotions. And that's before we factor in the fact that WWE is still signing people like fucking crazy for their NXT brand. Yeah, Shotzi Blackheart, Jake Atlas, the Endys are still getting picked. And I know we keep getting new guys, but
00:28:21
Speaker
it's crazy like that every one time one disappears you know like we get an Alex Zane and a Blake Christian and where the fuck do these guys keep coming from how have we not picked everything clean well I mean this thing about the thing about wrestling being so big again right now but somebody you know break brings up the good point is like
00:28:43
Speaker
Like, do you feel like the market's getting so much like the pro wrestling podcast market? Yeah. Yeah. There are literally six thousand of us out there. And why are we doing this? I don't know because I enjoy it. I think six thousand is conservative. I didn't mean podcasts in general. I just meant. Oh, you. Oh, you were talking about wrestling podcasts as well.
00:29:10
Speaker
I'm saying that there's a shitload of pro wrestling podcasts. We are just one of many, and it's debatable some days if we are a pro wrestling podcast, or if we're just a straight up hangout where you talk about everything. And we're at the point now where wrestling, there's so many promotions, it's so popular that there's a lot of places to work, but is the effect watered down? Is the market oversaturated?
00:29:36
Speaker
Because, I don't know, it's like, and this goes back to what we were talking about with the Friday Night Smackdown thing, which is every week, more people are not watching, and where are they going? And I guess I'll ask this question, cuz we'll talk about AEW a little bit here in a little bit, but they are consistently beating NXT in the ratings every week. Does that surprise you? I think their production looks bigger and more important.
00:30:06
Speaker
Does it have anything to do with the production though? That's hard to say. Cause I don't know, when I flipped over to NXT, I did not flip over until AEW ended. I flipped over, caught the last, you know, two minutes of the show. It ended huge. Did you see anything that happened to end in NXT?
00:30:26
Speaker
Well, I got a text from you right as I was getting ready to, you know, finish setting up and it said, dude, are you watching NXT right now? I want to be like, no, I'm getting ready to do this. But I did hop on Twitter in time to see what happened at the end of the show. Jesus Christ. Finn Balor is he's he's a bad boy now. Finn Balor was able to avoid the the draft by just going straight back to NXT.
00:30:52
Speaker
Smart move on his part. Didn't have to have Terry Bradshaw condescend to him, be like, my favorite part of Finn Bowers, that leather jacket. See, I would have really enjoyed if, you know, the music hit and instead of Finn, it was like Titus O'Neil, like I'm fucking trying to over here.
00:31:10
Speaker
Titus going on like a back to NXT and just being like fucking Bill Goldberg over there would be hilarious. It would be the funniest. Best thing wrestling has produced in years. He is like he pens Adam Cole's shoulders to the mat and Adam Cole just can't get up because he's big. It's the land of the Giants. I don't know what the fuck you heard.
00:31:36
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, like the New Japan news. It was just like it's coming at such a like, in my opinion, not a great time. Because people are still on an AEW buzz right now. Like how often do you still tune in for New Japan?
00:31:55
Speaker
That really made me start thinking about it, and today was the first time in months that I logged into my new Japan account, or it felt like months. I mean, there's still people there you care about. There's still people there I care about, but I don't know, when I turned it on and just saw the matches that I was being offered, there's so many of the matchups that I kind of felt like I had just watched at the G1, and saw all these guys already do this combination in a really short period of time.
00:32:26
Speaker
So are you looking forward to Wrestle Kingdom then? Yeah, no, I 100% will tune into Wrestle Kingdom. I just I haven't heard anyone talking about New Japan right now. I haven't heard anyone tell me that I'm missing anything. Is that what you need? Do you need somebody who's still watching New Japan to be like, dude, don't forget about them. They're still don't. We're over. We're we've got too much stuff, man.
00:32:51
Speaker
No, if there are listeners, you know, that have been, you know, caught up with everything going on in New Japan, tell me what I'm missing out on, because, you know, Twitter right now, Wrestle Twitter does not seem to be talking New Japan. I did see some stuff the other day about, you know, why am I blinking? The Rainmaker, Okada, he had a press conference where he clearly did not give a fuck.
00:33:26
Speaker
Well, I did see I know that he's fighting a bushy at night one of the That now that we're saying god damn now it G or the Wrestle kingdoms two nights just more just more so night one we're gonna get Okada versus a bushy and Then night two whoever has the title is gonna be defending it again. That makes sense. I
00:33:43
Speaker
You mean the character didn't or the man didn't?
00:33:52
Speaker
Doesn't it? Like if you're going to make it two nights, like the title has to be there to justify it. That's pretty big. Isn't that, that'd be weird though. If like WWE did a two night WrestleMania and then like we get to see Roman Reigns win twice. We've been advocating that over the last year though, haven't we? But yeah, we were totally make WrestleMania a two day event and have one night be for the universal title. The other night be for the yeah.
00:34:18
Speaker
They could totally, but, you know, New Japan's got the one big title the way it's supposed to be. Yeah, that makes sense. No, I'm definitely I'm definitely going to tune in and start tuning in closer to the build to it. But until somebody tells me what I should be watching over there, I just there's too much. I don't have enough time. And this is with me basically fucking pushing WWE out of my diet.
00:34:44
Speaker
Have you been pooping better since that got out of your system? I guess. It's like you've been eating McDonald's for the last three years and you just switched to vegetables. Oh, that doesn't sound fun to me. No, no, no, no, no, no. This is like this is an impossible burger. It tastes just like the real thing, but it's not as bad for you. No, it's like WWE is that fucking taco from Burger King.
00:35:14
Speaker
I mean, I made my feelings on WWE pretty clear last week, but it's been nice. I'm not having that stress. I do really feel like I'm punishing them right now. There's part of me that really does feel like you don't understand. I don't need you anymore. AEW gives me my fix every week.
AEW's Strategic Choices and Character Critiques
00:35:33
Speaker
And if you throw me fun stuff like Dan Housin and War Horse, I'll check that out in the meantime. I do going back to Marty.
00:35:44
Speaker
Marty's a great character. I am excited when he makes the jump to AEW. What if he doesn't? He has to. What if he doesn't? His friends are over there. So? The opportunity of a lifetime is over there. I mean, you lived in Chicago and I moved to Nashville. You lived in LA. So I've not chosen where you live twice.
00:36:12
Speaker
Well, you were living in LA before I moved to Chicago. I don't necessarily agree with all of your decisions, Garrett. I'm just saying. And I don't agree with all of Marty's decisions. You would totally move here if there were a bunch of your friends here and a nice payday and lots of good wrestling to be had. You're practically living here anyway, as often as you come here a year for shows.
00:36:35
Speaker
I hope they address that Marty looks like a crazy person. While all of his friends are away, he's hanging out with PCO. What have you been doing, man? He's like, you don't want to know. You don't want to know. I started a business. It didn't work out. PCO's farts kill me. I didn't turn so much into an asshole, though. Yeah. Cody would argue that he already was. You didn't do shit.
00:37:06
Speaker
Everybody just sees what I saw the whole time. Oh, um, yeah. So watch AEW this week or this week, I mean, you know, three hours ago, uh, we're in, what is, was this week four? Yeah. It feels like they're still going strong with having hot openers. Well, this week they chose not to do an intro. They went straight into wrestling.
00:37:36
Speaker
Okay, I was wondering if I like my TV did something this is the first time I have watched live Wrestling on television in a long time Like I able subscription now. I have the the Hulu streaming so that I can watch live AEW
00:37:53
Speaker
Oh fuck, Garrett. Yeah, I know. It's wild. And I couldn't tell if my streaming fucked up and it just went into it. Or what? What movie was before it this week? That's my favorite. I think it was Book of Eli. Okay. Okay, I always like to see what Hollywood blockbusters they... We get to see the last few minutes of before it goes into wrestling. Well, week one it was Suicide Squad. Week two it was Guardians. I don't know what it was last week.
00:38:20
Speaker
A book of Eli this week. Yeah. Um, something that, you know, people have suggested in the past is instead of doing your, your opener every week, every now and then switch it up and go straight into what you are, which is a wrestling show and give the fans some wrestling. And I also thought it was ballsy that they did their two tag team tournament matches back to back to open the show. Like they just resolved that anticipation right from the get go.
00:38:47
Speaker
did you okay so what it opened with lucha brothers versus private party correct this match was there were it was a match with really good sloppy moves
00:39:04
Speaker
correct I felt like you got really into the fact that the crowd was hot for the match and you texted me that and then a couple minutes later I got another text from you like so what were your thoughts on this match and I felt like you just wanted to hear me say something specific
00:39:21
Speaker
Yeah. Did I give you what you wanted? You gave me exactly what I wanted. The guy with the fun hair was in the ring and when he finally got this hot tag, the other guy came in and he was landing moves, but barely. Barely. And one of the moves, he had a big celebration where Ray Phoenix had to awkwardly stand somewhere longer than he needed to.
00:39:48
Speaker
waiting for him to come back but basically the celebration wasn't that move ruled it was I didn't break my fucking head there were a couple spots like that though I mean I again overall I would say the match was good
00:40:03
Speaker
maybe not great, maybe not memorable, but there were definitely a lot of spots in the match that were just sloppy. Like if you're going to bother to do a hurricane Rana, the legs or the ankles need to be like around the neck or the head. They can't just be on either side of the body or the shoulders to convince me that you just whipped that guy head over heels onto his back. Like that's not how it works, especially, and I told you this too, like if that's going to be like half of the arsenal,
00:40:31
Speaker
in the match, most of it needs to look pretty crisp and good.
00:40:36
Speaker
That was not the case here. You're definitely talking about that one where he did a springboard off the second rope. Yeah. That looked like shit. Yeah, it looked horrible. It was a couple of spots that did look pretty bad. Did it end the way you thought it was going to? Like from the beginning, was there a point where you thought, oh shit, maybe private party takes down the top two teams in this tournament? I had no idea who was going to win this match.
00:41:04
Speaker
I had no clue. I know I would have preferred to see Lucha Brothers win, and they ultimately did. But I didn't, again, when you have private party beat Young Bucks, they could go any number of directions with that.
00:41:21
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, I like, here's the thing. I like private party. I like their whole shtick. I like the way they come to the ring. I like their wardrobe. I think they've got a good spot in AEW. And it makes perfect sense to me to have Lucha Brothers continue on in this tag tournament because next to the Bucks, I'd say they're the most established or over tag team on the roster. Is that fair to say? I would say that's accurate.
00:41:50
Speaker
So if you're not going to push the box, I mean, they're the most logical choice after that. Can we go to SCU versus Dark Order, please? This is where we get to have that conversation. Yeah, I would love to hear from one of our listeners. Because they used to be known as the Super Smash Brothers, right? Yes.
00:42:13
Speaker
Yeah, okay, so pro wrestling name consultant, Derek, would tell you not to do that for a number of reasons. Number one, if you ever make it big time with that name, that's not happening. You might be able to get away with that on the Indies, but then you're gonna have to toss away your whole fucking name when you get onto television because Super Smash Brothers is gonna be owned by Nintendo. Think about it. Two,
00:42:42
Speaker
I need somebody to explain, like what you saw these guys at PWG. I had only ever seen evil player Uno before and I didn't quite get it. I had seen him multiple times there. I never really actively disliked him, but he was always somebody that came out and I'm like, all right, I'm ready for the next one.
00:43:07
Speaker
Alright, gotta get through this one. This is a, you know, this building's hot. This building's hot and it's been a long night. This is one that, you know, I could skip. Did they serve drinks there? They did, but the line was very long so you really had to, if you, plus I would always just get, you know, stand in room only so I had to secure a good spot. I usually was very parched.
00:43:31
Speaker
That sounds horrible, but I had fun, so. I feel like every like I've seen kind of a unanimous feeling online towards Dark Order that I share, which is that I don't get it. Like. There's a lot of people involved in that to make that work. There's people running around and fucking gimp masks from Pulp Fiction. Like.
00:43:58
Speaker
What are they? Are they magic? Are they a sex cult? Like, I don't know if I get it. I think it's fair. It hasn't been established. Yeah. What was it? Double or nothing that we got? You know, like promos and stuff? I don't know. The thing is, it's not only that I don't just get it, but I don't care enough to want to get it.
00:44:20
Speaker
Yeah, that's a problem. That's just, straight up, that's just a problem that they have. I'm not saying it's not interesting to everybody. I'm sure there's a few people that were able to elevate them to this level so they could get a shot at AEW. I'm just saying it's not for me and I don't understand it. And they had a match against SCU and I don't think the crowd was into this for a while. Something changed that.
00:44:49
Speaker
Yeah, I even text you and said, this felt to me like somebody said, well, this isn't working, send Jericho out there. But it obviously was planned. But I don't know, there's just something about that that maybe they even sent him out there early. I don't know that they took all the focus away from what was going on in the ring to show Sammy throwing popcorn a lot. And that kind of shows where that match was.
00:45:16
Speaker
It shows where the match was, but I mean, for them to have the foresight to know that they needed to do that. I mean, what does that say? Like if they're like, all right, we're going to have to send those guys like it's written into the script. We're going to have to send those guys out there to get a response. Because when they came back, first of all, after after the inner circle got up into their box suite or whatever the fuck you want to call it, they had tickets. They made that appoint the whole show. Jericho had tickets for them. I don't know where I don't know where Jack Swagger was.
00:45:45
Speaker
He ran out of polo shirts so he couldn't show up. That is weird that he just didn't show up. He's an important member of that group. I think he is, maybe. When do we get to see Jack Swagger fight somebody? Is he still doing MMA stuff? Is that maybe why he wasn't there? Like he had something to like, this is like he's doing both. There's no way that he just casually had an important fight on a Wednesday.
00:46:14
Speaker
Well, not that he had a fight on a Wednesday, but like, did he have like some promotional thing to do? Was there like, I don't know, Garrett. I'm giving him the benefit of that. There's a reason. Fair. Fine. Whatever. Fine. Derek's being a dick. Derek gives Jack Swagger a doctor's note.
00:46:37
Speaker
If Jack Swagger looked at me the way he looked at the end of that first episode of Dynamite, I'd give him whatever he wanted.
00:46:46
Speaker
So, yeah, I mean, like they send inner circle out there in the middle of that match between Dark Order and SCU. And that became the focus. The crowd all turned away. Nobody was reacting to the stuff that was happening in the ring. And it became holy shit. Jericho and Sammy Guevara and L.A. X are here and they're fucking rooting for Dark Order, which was my favorite part was like, I'm over here like I don't get it. And Jericho's like, fuck it, I get it. And it's great.
00:47:15
Speaker
Yeah, because if Jericho gets it, then we're like, well, I get it, too, I guess. He's a vet. How can I say no? I mean, if he gets it, I get it. But yeah, you said like it's when they came back from that, though, it was like the crowd was like, oh, Jericho's here. We need to be engaged with this match. And the crowd started reacting to the end of that. And SCU ended up going over.
00:47:42
Speaker
Shortly after I text you like, this match sucks, Stu Grayson just hurled himself over the turnbuckle to the outside of the ring. And I think I just sent back, nevermind. Oh, I get it. There is sex cult with flips. See? Okay. Okay. There it is. There it is. Thank you. There it is. That's it. There is sex cult with flips. Yeah.
00:48:09
Speaker
Yeah, I still don't get dark order. Not for me. And it's gonna be interesting. There's a few things on AEW that they could probably just nip in the bud. I think dark order is one of them. I think the librarian's another one. Yeah. Who else are you cutting?
00:48:30
Speaker
Already? Yeah. Who you got in Orange Cassidy just to spare JR? He can't handle it. He cannot even feign interest. I knew. Here's the thing. I wanted to text you or tweet or something really bad and be like, man, how's JR going to handle having to fucking call stuff for Orange Cassidy? And before I could even do it, as the Bucks were getting in the ring when he fucking popped up there, I was just like, oh, no, I'm too late.
00:49:00
Speaker
And for him, it was the exact opposite reaction that literally everyone else in the building has. The Young Bucks are doing their pose and JR is talking and basically saying, these are the best tag team wrestlers in the world. I love watching them. There's nothing more I like better in the entire world than watching the Young Bucks and the now Orange Cassidy's in the middle. He's like, fuck, I hate this.
00:49:25
Speaker
What happened to his sunglasses? He got super kicked, they went flying. And just for most of the match, I got to watch Orange Cassidy without his sunglasses, but then mysteriously, right at the end, he had them back. And just listening to JR and Shivani go silent, and Excalibur being the one that has to call anything for Orange Cassidy or else he gets no commentary.
00:49:55
Speaker
I feel for him. I actually feel bad for JR. He's not prepared to handle this. There are going to be certain things that he just can't handle and there was where he said the crowd or Excalibur shouted something about the crowd loving it and JR's like well I guess we better goddamn do it then.
00:50:22
Speaker
Um, yeah, those, those kicks that he gave to the bucks, Jim, I mean.
00:50:29
Speaker
He's in a predicament. Because as a play-by-play wrestling announcer, you now have to treat those kicks from Orange Cassidy to the same way you did fucking Kenny Omega, Neen, Joey Janela in the face. And it is borderline insulting that you have to give the same amount of effort to your calls, despite the fact that Orange Cassidy is putting in an eighth of the effort
00:50:58
Speaker
Maybe that's being nice. It's not an admirable position. I think you could just look at it objectively and be like, what's he supposed to do? By God, those fucking kicks from Orange Cassidy to the shit of Matt Jackson.
00:51:15
Speaker
Is that what you want? Is that what you want, Garrett? More than anything in the world, Derek, I want to hear the voice of my childhood call an Orange Cassidy match the way God intended.
00:51:32
Speaker
I don't know man, it's... And here's the thing, I love Orange Cassidy. He's gonna have to change something. I think he's gonna have to keep a good chunk of that shtick, but there's gonna have to be a way he can suddenly turn it up to like fuckin' 11.
00:51:52
Speaker
He can. He does that. And then just immediately loses all of his energy again once that little burst is done.
00:52:09
Speaker
Yeah. I mean, there's going to have to be some way they can explain why he, cause like, let's go back. I'm sure you were excited as hell that on a national stage, Joey Janela got to wrestle Kenny Omega again, but this time on TNT live in front of everyone. So Joey could show off the fact that he can wrestle. And it seemed like once again, that was something the announcers just weren't ready for because all they had seen him do up to that point was hardcore.
00:52:39
Speaker
Well, but they did make a point to be like, for those who don't understand this, Joey Janela can wrestle. He's not just the hardcore match guy. I really, really wanted Joey to get that win. There's no way. When is he going to get one or did he beat Brandon Cutler on dark this week? I'm not sure.
00:53:03
Speaker
I don't remember this. You didn't make a point that when Kenny was coming out for that match though, they had the AEW dark logo behind him. Yeah. They just saw Joey Janela come out and assumed that it was a dark match. Oh, that's not a funny joke. That's mean. That's a joke he would have made about himself.
00:53:23
Speaker
I know, but Joey was all down on himself a few months ago and said that he was just going to be a jobber in AEW, but he's getting to work the likes of fucking Moxley and Kenny Omega. Yeah, he is kind of, he's got that Bray Wyatt spot right now of main event jobber.
00:53:43
Speaker
Hey, as I said last week, cash them paychecks. Makes it all better. And I like that they let him have a competitive match with Kenny Omega. Absolutely. It was a damn good match. It really was. It's crazy to see that, I don't know, there were a couple spots that look dangerous as shit in this one. Is there part of you that's a little scared with Joey handling Kenny? Yeah, I'm like, come on, man, precious cargo.
00:54:14
Speaker
He gave that cross body and he landed way too low. He basically went from the turnbuckle while Kenny was on the floor and cross-bodied his dick. That's not where you hit him. I thought he landed pretty awkwardly, but fuck. I trust Kenny. Yeah, Kenny can handle it. Kenny can handle it. But yeah, good for Joey. And seeing the crowd go wild for Joey Janela is incredible.
00:54:44
Speaker
I think that's the thing that I'm just enjoying so much is seeing the crowd love these indie wrestlers as much as we do. Like every person on that roster is carving out their own space. Like you can put two guys against each other and you can clearly be, like your predisposition can be that you're supposed to hate this person, but you're also excited that they're there.
00:55:10
Speaker
And you're right, it's cool to tune in every week and see guys get these responses that you feel like they deserve. I don't know. It was a very, in my opinion, another tag heavy show. No, it was. Bucks and best friends. Oh, wait, we were still already talking about that. We didn't mention, though, how fucking good of a match that Trent put on. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, that match between the Bucks and best friends was good shit.
00:55:43
Speaker
I don't think JR liked when best friends hug either. He would rather they go for a cover. I felt like he was yelling about that the whole night. Well, just go for the damn cover. The whole time he's just like, I like though that when he does like something about the show, he's like, boy, I'll tell you what, I like those time limits.
Wrestling Show Dynamics and Industry Observations
00:56:05
Speaker
When there's a time limit and these boys are pretending like there's a sense of urgency, it makes me so happy in sight. God damn it, why are they fucking hugging each other? I mean, God just covers fucking body. God damn. Oh, man. What's funny is when people talk about like that aspect of the psychology of pro wrestling, that it ever occurred to JR that maybe those guys have had so many failed pin attempts over the years that they're just like, fuck it. I ain't trying until I know he's dead.
00:56:39
Speaker
I know, again, I know that's part of the psychology of wrestling. I want there to be one wrestler on the roster who doesn't try for a cover until after he hits his finisher. Yeah, I think that person is schlack and he goes for the pen after they're passed out in a bloody bag.
00:57:03
Speaker
Derek, Schlack's coming my way, baby. He's coming to wombat, which means he'll probably also be at GCW. And Derek, guess what? My wife is going to be out of town that weekend now, and I have an extra front row ticket. You pumping that up to somebody? I don't know, I'm telling you. Sell it.
00:57:26
Speaker
No, I'm telling you, do you want to come? When is it? I mean, you don't have to. It's just an offer. It's out there. It's like December 6th and 7th. I didn't say anything. I asked, when is it? Yeah, December 6th and 7th. Yeah, that's probably not happening. That's fine. I just thought I'd offer. Well, I appreciate it. Why don't you offer it to one of our listeners? Why don't you offer a VIP experience to one of our listeners if they leave like 10 reviews? That's dishonest.
00:57:57
Speaker
So who wants to get the VIP experience at a GCW show, sit up front with me, watch me leave you high and dry as somebody comes hurling towards us. Can we get something clarified? Are you mad at me that I had Logan Stunt thrown on you? No, no, I'll never regret that. That's the greatest story that I'll ever get to tell.
00:58:28
Speaker
But yeah, if Shane Mercer's ever in the ring again and he's holding somebody any larger than Logan Stunt, do not have him throw that person at me. Well, just like when I tell you not to watch WWE and then you go do it, you telling me not to do this makes me want to do it even more.
WWE 2K20 Glitches and Gaming Challenges
00:58:46
Speaker
Honestly, WWE did something this week that sounds incredible. Oh, God. Have you been watching the videos of this new 2K game?
00:58:58
Speaker
Shit.
00:59:02
Speaker
WWE 2K20. It is filmed with so many glorious glitches that the only things I've seen is like people's faces coming off, stairs shooting out of the middle of the ring. I saw Ronda Rousey get tangled up in the ropes and start seizing. God, it looks like this game is weird as shit, and I hope they never fix it. There was supposed to be a patch available for it on day one, supposedly, and it just didn't happen.
00:59:32
Speaker
I know two of my favorite videos, I saw the one where I don't know who it is, but they're literally spinning around the ring like somebody would around a drain. Just hitting every turnbuckle perpetually with the ref in the middle of the ring, trying to call it. The other one, somebody's stuck on the second rope, bouncing, and then the other person's crouched down on their knees, walking from a knee kneeling position.
00:59:59
Speaker
Have you seen the one where Charlotte is putting somebody in the figure eight and the referee is glitching and just humping Charlotte's face? Yes. What the fuck? Yes, so many glitches. I saw one where somebody pulled a mask off and they had no face after the mask came off. That's horrifying. So is the rumor on that true where, like, I guess this is the last year they have the license?
01:00:29
Speaker
So I thought it was, they had creative differences with whoever usually develops the games and those people stopped partway through and they had to have some in-house team finish it and it basically ended up being what it is now.
01:00:44
Speaker
That's a fucking PR disaster at a time where WWE doesn't need any more PR disasters. See, this is the first 2K game I've wanted to buy in years. It looks like I can handle this one. Because you don't have to do anything? You don't have to do anything and all your characters just seize.
01:01:03
Speaker
They just have seizures, they hump each other, their faces come off. It really is something fresh and new. That's such a, it's so funny. It's funny because of what a disaster it is. Yeah, I did see plenty of those videos Garrett. WWE did a thing this week.
01:01:22
Speaker
Are you are you upset they finally get a woman on the cover of a WWE video game and it's this one It just it feels right for them That this is the way and it feels very very on brand that this is how this one would end up What sucks is the commercials for the game are fantastic? Great they should have had the commercial people make this game then I
01:01:49
Speaker
Is this your way of being like, I don't know what the commercials are, Derek? No, that's the one with Shawn Michaels and, uh, Hulk Hogan. And he's like, that's, she's the man, dude, or whatever she says. Your interpretation of the commercials. So bad. Yes, that is the gist. There's a bunch of them. They have, there's a bunch of variations. Apparently you've seen one and that was what you got out of it.
01:02:15
Speaker
So now that I'm watching AEW live and I'm seeing television commercials for the first time in years, watching some of the commercials they paired with picture-in-picture wrestling was insane.
AEW's Unique Broadcast Pairings and Match Critiques
01:02:29
Speaker
While best friends were having their entrance, there was literally a commercial for HIV medication.
01:02:38
Speaker
like these probably a highlight for chucky d oh i i bet he would be so happy if he saw that and then another one they keep trying to get frank thomas from the the white socks to to sell me from the white socks from to sell me the the fucking testosterone whatever it is
01:02:56
Speaker
Yeah, and the commercial is just this guy in a car and Frank Thomas keeps talking to him on billboards and the guy doesn't ask about the testosterone stuff. He looks terrified of the billboards and it ends with him shooting himself in the head. That is not how it ends. Did I see? I saw a different commercial. Well, he was scared. He thought he was losing his mind. So he kills himself? So he killed himself. And then I realized, oh, there is this testosterone medicine.
01:03:27
Speaker
Yeah. You can get a free sample of it. You should, uh, get on that, Garrett. I'll get that, some blue chew, take them both at the time, same time in a... That'd be a disaster. And then just have a WWE 2K style rage fuck of a wall or something. So was this... I came to this discussion prepared to tell you that I kind of see what you're talking about with Britt Baker. She does...
01:03:56
Speaker
She's a little sloppy There's times where she kind of it seems like she has to slow down to do stuff I don't know it I feel like I'm seeing her set up things and it's not it doesn't just flow as much as I'd like it to sometimes I just wanted to acknowledge you had said something about that last week and I saw a little bit more this week I'm glad she had her moment in front of the hometown crowd. They seem to be into it But uh and and and Brandi's back by the way
01:04:22
Speaker
I saw. She's not excited about that. Hey, I'm fine with it. Let's see where it goes. Week four AEW there's a little WWE response in Garrett coming out.
01:04:37
Speaker
It's still good. And I think I didn't realize they're here in three weeks. So I've got AEW Live coming up. And for each of these shows, it seems like they're announcing pretty exciting matches. So, you know, fingers crossed because I think I'm getting them right after the week after their pay-per-view. And they established that that time limit fucking holds true with the way the show ended between Moxley and Pac.
01:05:03
Speaker
Damn, and then when you, it made me wanna go check out NXT though, when that ends in a time limit draw. And then I flip over and just see that that match ends with Keith Lee giving Dijak a power bomb off the top rope to the middle of the mat. And as they hit the ground, Roddy Strong flies out of nowhere, connects the knee to Keith Lee's face and wins.
01:05:26
Speaker
Wow. It looked fucking hot and then Finn Balor came out and there were no Champa Gargano came out and you're like, holy shit. And then Finn Balor came out, joins goddamn undisputed era. Honestly, that's a hotter ending than AEW this week. I wouldn't say that's fair. But I didn't see it. You did.
01:05:49
Speaker
And that's the only thing I saw of the entire show. So was the hot ending was a very, very hot ending. But I do think it's cool that I mean, I still haven't watched last week's. But just knowing that Keith Lee and Dijak headlined the last two NXT shows, I kind of like that. That's pretty awesome. Yeah, that's good for them. And they put on banger matches.
01:06:12
Speaker
Yeah, and I'm happy that they see that and have had them do it two weeks in a row. So, you know, God give us a goddamn takeover, or, you know, get them a takeover. I want to see their takeover match. Well, maybe we'll see it. Maybe. Maybe. Derek, is it about time to wrap this thing up? Wrap this shit up, man. We don't have any erotica for you this week.
01:06:35
Speaker
Hey, we did, we ended up in a thread with Jeffy, Warhorse, Danhausen, and Effie. And I do wanna say at one point in that Effie, all the wrestlers were liking every tweet. And then I suggested maybe someday we get an Effie predetermined erotic fan fit crossover. That was the only tweet of the entire thread that Effie did not like. So I think that was a very stern no.
01:07:05
Speaker
Yeah, and you know what's funny about that? My tweet in response to your tweet that didn't get any likes, the Jeff Goldblum gift that I used of the awkward, like, I'm not so sure. Everybody liked that tweet. Everybody thought that was the appropriate response to your suggestion. I know. Son of a bitch. Not you. I mean, you can say that. No, no, no. Fuck Effie.
01:07:31
Speaker
Wow. Fuck you, Effie. You know, I wanted to I wanted to have some erotic fan fiction where I get to perform acts on you to show you how much I appreciate your in ring abilities. And this is how you repay me. We're ending this week on a downer note, I guess. All right, everybody between Effie and Garrett is over.
01:07:54
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It's just on the rocks. It's on the rocks. Because he didn't like that tweet. Just social media. Do our thing. We're at pre determined podcast on Instagram. We're at Russell hang out on Facebook and Twitter. I'm at guard head on all the things Derek's Halloween helping
01:08:14
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Yep, and Halloween's coming up. Halloween is coming up. Actually, our next episode is on Halloween. Yeah, next week. Do we have to plan something special for that? We did a special thing last year. You had me do a Halloween episode. You want to do that again, buddy? Maybe we do that again. Maybe we do that again. Tune in next week and find out. We love you. Hit our goddamn music.