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Technical Troubles and Resolutions
00:00:23
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And we're back. Yeah, there's been a change. Yeah. Oh, wait, let me. We got an echo. Here we go. Yeah. Still figuring out how to use this thing. So, you know, we don't have the best audio today. And got new gear. We're still trying to figure it out.
00:00:49
Speaker
Yeah. So I got a new computer and, uh, um, just went and opened our, our DAW digital audio workstation. Yeah. And, um, all the plugins that I've used for the podcast for the last whatever to over two years, almost three years, um, are not working.
00:01:14
Speaker
So I got to look at that. That's what you get for getting your computer at heart. Right. Yeah. I got the same day delivery from the Apple store. That was nice. Nine bucks. They're like, you could have it. I ordered it, I think at.
00:01:29
Speaker
Must have been... I think that was the day you went to the dentist, right? So it was after you left, so it was like $3.30. It was like you could have it between $4.30 and $6.30 for $9.00. I'm like, yeah, sign me up.
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00:02:24
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Yeah, we might be able to make that happen. Yeah. I was talking to Ed and Scott today about changing up the verbiage a little bit on this and and some other stuff that we won't talk about yet, but hoping to add another layer, another layer of Haefla to the show every now and then. Yeah. Which would be cool. We're big Haefla fans. Yeah. You know who else is a big Haefla fan?
00:02:53
Speaker
It's this guy. He's a big, hateful fan. A giant hateful fan. Then we're done. This hateful fan. A robotic, hateful fan. Only on channel one that's working, so we've got to figure out how to make that work on channel two. Oh yeah. We haven't even unlocked a
00:03:21
Speaker
a drop of what this thing can do, I think. Yeah, that'll be fun. I mean, look, it's got one. Oh, my God, I think it only shows three, but it's got eight, eight times eight, 64 different, you know, triggers you could do. I like the green button.
00:03:53
Speaker
One man show. Yeah. So it's Wednesday in the shop. We've been doing some painting. Oh, boy. All day. One hour. I'm like, who unlocked this front door? That's our knockoff festival sanding pad. Yeah. Showing up via Amazon.
00:04:16
Speaker
Only $32 for a knockoff. I know. But I think the one 55 or something like that, the best tools. I don't know. I wasn't even looking at the price to be honest. I just wanted to try something different. Just like on the off chance of the knockoff one's actually better. ETS 125 pad. I want to say it's 47. 46. There you go.
00:04:42
Speaker
They got one here for 27. Maybe that's what I ordered. I'm not sure. But it was, you know, that next day delivery. I don't know about, you know, where all you guys are listening from. But here we now have like overnight delivery on Amazon. So you could order something. And some of it's even same day. Yeah, which we didn't used to have before.
00:05:07
Speaker
Even though we live, you know, within a half hour of several huge Amazon warehouses, but we just got the next like the overnight. They call it where it comes between like four and eight a.m. Which is I mean, it's handy. And we're getting spoiled. Yeah. I mean, you hate to spend all your money at Amazon, but they sure make it hard to not. I know the evil empire. Yeah.
00:05:35
Speaker
So we just, uh, we just got back from Lowe's and tractor supply.
Compressor Quest
00:05:43
Speaker
Yeah. That was an adventure. Yeah. On the hunt for some good ratchet straps. And, uh, safe to say that we didn't find any.
00:05:51
Speaker
Now it's pretty disappointing. The mast was only got into tractor supply and the shelves are stocked with the same exact brand that we left Lowe's disappointed in. Smart straps. Like let's go to another store. Tactical ratchet straps. Tactical with the mock carbon fiber.
00:06:14
Speaker
Yeah, well the tactical had knurled and I don't know what they called the carbon fiber ones. So yeah, so tomorrow morning we're going to pick up. We finally found the compressor. Hallelujah. Yeah, Quincy seven and a half horsepower three phase
00:06:32
Speaker
80 gallon stand up compressor. Twenty two point six big CFMs. Which is plenty exactly what I've been looking for. Yeah. Yeah. You know, we've been looking at that new. Which is a big nut to swallow, you know, talking. Minimum thirty five hundred. I mean, you could buy some bullshit compressor that, you know, you're not going to trust, but.
00:07:01
Speaker
Looking at a minimum of 3500 for a new compressor. Isn't, you know, this one, is it 35 or 36, 37 for this one? Yeah. Yeah. 3600 plus tax. Uh, well we're tax exempt. So luckily we get off on that. But, uh, free freight to luckily, we're not, luckily we're not buying a new one, but a freight would be free. So you're looking at 3,600 bucks.
00:07:26
Speaker
This one we're getting for 1850. It's only two years old. And honestly, the pictures, it looks. It looks brand new. Yeah, I mean, it's there's not a speck of dust on it. I mean, ours, like the second day, you know, like it's like oil fumes and the dust is all caked on there. So I don't know. You know, the guy that we're buying it from.
00:07:52
Speaker
He bought it, oh good, he marked it as pending. He bought it from a, he's out in Pennsylvania about an hour and 40 minutes away. He bought it from a company that they had three locations and I don't know, they were moving or, yeah, I mean, look at the freaking thing. We're at Snocky Puppy Pennsylvania.
00:08:14
Speaker
Scuttleberg, something, Scapjack, something like that. You know, geography is not a strong suit. Yeah. But yeah, so he bought it from a company that had three locations and I forget that we're closing the one or moving it or something. And he said that they made like holsters and magazines for police departments and the government and whatever. So I guess they were working with Kydex and with
00:08:45
Speaker
I don't know what the hell the magazines are made of, some kind of polymer. Um...
00:08:49
Speaker
And this was a backup compressor. They had a big screw compressor and this was the backup, which only was used if the screw compressor was down, which I can imagine probably not all that often. Yeah. Um, you know, it's got like the oil maintenance schedule is on there when they, you know, they changed the oil in January and it's due to be changed again in June. I like that. I like people keep records like that. Yeah. When you're buying a used car.
00:09:16
Speaker
If it's a, you know, a company that has three locations, then they're probably pretty well managed. And they probably made sure that, you know, I mean, look at it. Yeah. Look, yeah. I mean, I don't know if the guy went and cleaned it, but my God, even if he did, I mean, you could see there's no. There's no residue of anything. Maybe there's a little bit of dust in there. I think it's just a reflection.
00:09:47
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Um, so yeah, I mean, we're, I'm excited. We were looking at Quincy's anyway. Oh yeah. That was, it was one A and one B between that and the emacs. Yeah. I would have really liked to have an emacs. Yeah. Um, Quincy definitely has a more well-known reputation. Um, I mean, I put that thing up on Instagram and it was like,
00:10:15
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I don't even know how many two dozen people were like, you got to buy a Quincy. I've had one for 20 years and I bought one that was 50 years old and it still runs like like it's brand new. And. Yeah, we went and we checked out a new Ingersoll ran, not really intended to buy it, but just to get to get a glimpse of the quality and everything like that. Yeah. Hunk of junk. Yeah, it was pretty disappointing.
00:10:44
Speaker
Yeah, I would. If you're in the market for a compressor and you like buying something that you think is going to be industrial, don't buy it. Ingersoll ran because that thing was a joke. I mean, the DeWalt look heftier and beefier.
00:10:58
Speaker
Yeah, well, ask Timmy about his DeWalt that just, yeah, never mind. No, don't say. Don't say anything about that. Because I don't know. Yeah, I don't know what the situation is. You can ask him and maybe he'll tell you. Yeah. But yeah, yeah, the DeWalt looked way more hardcore. Granted, it was a seven and a half horsepower and the Ingersoll Ram was a five. But the motor on the Ingersoll Ram was a WEN, which I've never heard of. No, a WEG. WEG. WEG. WEG.
00:11:28
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which sounds familiar, but, you know, made in Mexico. This has a a ball door. Yeah. Is it a ball door or a leasing? I think it's a ball. I think it's a ball. A reliant ball, door reliant. Three phase, which we wanted to away, which, you know, it's got to go away. Yeah. To 30 is, you know, it's not going to be good for the motor running at 230, which I don't know. Now I'm thinking, is that the problem with the table saw? Hmm. You know, maybe the.
00:11:59
Speaker
I think maybe the motor's bogging down and there's so much inertia in the blade. And something's stretching the belt. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, you know, I don't know enough about electric conversions. Me neither.
00:12:18
Speaker
But yeah, so it's a two oh eight three phase motor, which is good. We can run it on a smaller breaker. We can use smaller wire, be cheaper to get it hooked up. All those ancillary costs add up. Yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. Like the emacs that we were looking at, I think it needed like a, cause they didn't have any three phase in stock. It needed like a 60 amp breaker. You're talking about number four wire, number four wire.
00:12:45
Speaker
is got to be two dollars a foot. Yeah. It adds up quick. Mm hmm. And, you know, six to three. Well, it would be that'd be a two pole, but.
00:13:00
Speaker
Those like the three pole, 100 amp breakers that we had to buy were like 100 bucks. So, you know, buying a 30 amp three pole breaker won't be too bad. You know, we probably just will go to war should we go to war shower, pick that up. Yeah. Better check and see what kind of wire we have. Maybe pick up wire. You know, maybe cheaper rather than buying flexible conduit. We're trying to do the conduit ourselves to just get cord. Mm hmm.
00:13:30
Speaker
I don't know what the maximum length on that is. Yeah. Like how far you could run it. Yeah. That's a good question. Very far now about what 10 feet, but it's got to go up up about three and then over. Yeah. No more. It's no more than 15 feet. Yeah. But even at $4 a foot, I think that six four that we bought was only
00:13:59
Speaker
That might have been $6 a foot.
00:14:02
Speaker
That was some big stuff. Yeah. Six four is big. We have, I mean, we have a bunch of wire. That's a 10 and 12, I believe. I'm not sure what, what size wire got to go up to the electrical warehouse. Yeah. Although our electrician had such a take off. What size wire or 30 and three phase. Yeah. We got a whole storehouse of miscellaneous electrical supplies. Oh, you only need 10 gauge wire. Oh wow.
00:14:33
Speaker
Hmm. That's good. Yeah. I mean, if we get some prefamulated conduit pieces. We got plenty of conduit. Yeah. You only need probably half inch would work for that. Right. Because just a single thing going there. We'll just bend the conduit over our knee. I think that's how they did it. Yeah. Here you stand on this. Just need a helper. Yeah.
00:15:04
Speaker
One that we're not paying. Oh, man. So, hey, that's great news. Number 10 wire. Shit, piece of 10 would have to be. 10 four. Because with cord, I learned the hard way that. The ground.
00:15:29
Speaker
is included in the number. Yeah. Unlike Romex, where, you know, 10, 10 to Romex would have three wires on the inside. Mm hmm. 10 to SJ or SVO or SJO. I don't know what the hell the different ones are, but would only have two wires inside. And one of those would have to be the ground. Right. So we need something with four wires. Yeah.
00:15:59
Speaker
Yeah. So that's probably. Probably relatively inexpensive. Yeah. Compared to what we've been getting. Yeah. Yeah. So we'll see. We'll have to go to war shower and make fools of ourselves again. You know, everybody at the supply houses have such an attitude. Yeah. But we get it at the, you know, more woodworking type places too. So it's like, I don't, I don't care.
00:16:24
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. Like when we go to builders or whatever. Yeah. Builders isn't so bad. Dykes was like, yeah.
Workspace Emergency
00:16:32
Speaker
Oh my God. The guy was like being a total prick. Yeah. It's like, you know, when somebody's being obstinate to be obstinate. Yeah. I'm like, listen, I know what the hell I'm talking about. Like, you don't, I don't know what the hell you're talking about.
00:16:47
Speaker
And then the other guy at the desk, he's like, Oh, how'd you guys move? Go. And the guy looks over, he's like, what? He's like, Oh yeah, I follow you guys on the internet. Then he snapped to attention. It's like, Oh, these aren't just some pickup truck. Yeah. You know, knuckleheads. Yeah. What was I asking for? Pre-finished plywood. Yeah. What you got? What do you need? What you got? Yeah.
00:17:10
Speaker
Oh yeah, I'm looking for some pre-finished three-quarter inch pre-fin two-side. Well, what do you need? I don't know what you have. Well, are you talking about like sanded? No, pre-finished. Well, a lot of times guys come in and they're looking for sanded. I didn't say AC ply. Yeah. That would be sanded AC. I said pre-finished. Finished implies that there's a finish on it. Yeah, there's something on there other than wood. Right. Idiots.
00:17:41
Speaker
Oh, yes. Nice being out in the world. Yeah. Yeah, so we'll leave tomorrow, probably around six. Get out to whatever, Sacklerville, whatever the hockey club be, Pennsylvania, Arley's, Arley'sville. It's well, he listed at Harley'sville, but the zip code was somewhere else with an S. Arley'sville is. I think that's who my life insurance is through.
00:18:13
Speaker
Yeah, Harley'sville, Pennsylvania. So we're taking my pickup because it is too tall to fit in the high roof van. Yeah. Holy cow, right? Yeah. It's what'd you say? Seventy four.
00:18:30
Speaker
Yeah, 74 without the little pallet. Right. And he's got it bolted to a little pallet, which is nice. So he's got a forklift, I guess, or he's got something to get it in there. Skip pack. Oh, it was on Craigslist. Craigslist. Skip pack. Pennsylvania.
00:18:51
Speaker
Do you have any additional info in there? What's that listing say? It says the model number seven and a half horse, three phase, 80 gallon, two years old, bill date for 2021. Perfect condition with an exclamation point. And, uh, he must've got that thing for a song. Yeah. He probably bought out the whole, you know, he's probably one of those guys. I bought it and it's just reselling it.
00:19:18
Speaker
Yeah, you know what I didn't check was what else he was selling. Oh, that's a good thing. You might have some others of the gear. Even just I like to do a little recon, you know. To see what these people are about. We're in the block block studio death. Yes, you'd be selling any like bondage gear or something like that. We want to make sure cameras and paper plates. Don't turn your back. I have I heard about you guys.
00:19:50
Speaker
You talk about me on your podcast. Come on. Will Smith. He's an old white man though. Oh, I did look. He was the only thing, other things that he had sold are these list of tool boxes. Which are nice. They already sold though.
00:20:13
Speaker
It's all for 1,500 books. They're clean. Yeah. I like that because Chelsea takes care of his stuff. Yeah, where he's only buying stuff that's... Yeah. I mean, even if he buys it and doesn't leave it out in the shed or something like that and gets it nice and clean. Pending. That's us.
00:20:32
Speaker
Yeah, it's got you know, the drain is accessible. Whereas on every other compressor, it's like you got to bend over backwards to drain it. So we could put a little tube, add a tube to the thing and keep whatever kind of bucket or pail or milk container.
00:20:53
Speaker
Yeah, it's got that small ball opening at the top, less splatter. Or just like one of those one gallon chemical kind of bottles, you know what I mean? Like a almost like a bleach bottle. Yeah. That'd be good. I'd like to get one of those automatic drains at some point. Yeah.
00:21:14
Speaker
Yeah. You know, if we would have bought new, we would have been in for a good five grand, probably. Yeah. Yeah. Would have gotten the cooler and the drain kit and the standard warranty and call that a fully packaged unit. Yeah. Because that's how we roll. They have like a inter intercooler after cooler. I'm kind of cooler. Yeah.
00:21:39
Speaker
Yeti cool, not like a dryer, but they have between the the pump and the tank is like a cooler, like a radiator, basically. And it cools the air down before it goes into the tank, because that's this. I just learned this within the last couple of weeks, looking at compressors that that's why you get the condensation is because the air gets so hot.
00:22:05
Speaker
from being compressed. Yeah, I didn't know that either. I mean, it's like one of those things I never even really gave much thought to. I always thought it was just like taking moisture out of the air. I'm like, Oh, yeah, it's got an intake. So it's sucking the air in and there's moisture in the air. So it just gets stuck inside the tank. That's what I thought. So it's the heat, it's almost like distilling in there.
00:22:26
Speaker
Yeah. Well, yeah. Cause it's pressurizing the air and, and you know, whenever you pressurize something, it makes heat. And it's probably rise into the top of the thing and then condensing and then dripping down. Yeah. Must be really, uh, mucky in there. Yeah. I think like the air's like 400 degrees or something when it goes into the tank. Yeah. I never even thought of that either.
00:22:52
Speaker
Yeah, we're gonna have to clear the way to get that freaking thing back there. I need a forklift. I know. Nothing's that simple, is it? No. Does it have, I wonder if it's got like lift points on it. Well, it's on a pallet. Yeah, it's on a tiny little pallet. We could get it over there on the pallet and then put a strap around it to lift it up, I guess.
00:23:26
Speaker
So now they got two listings for that. This is that same Ingersoll Rand. Now there's two listings for it. That's somebody else. Must be the guy's brother, Michael. If you're in the market for a compressor and you're looking at this Ingersoll Rand in Saddlebrook, New Jersey, do not go look at it because we went up there. That's another story. And you know what's going to happen is we're going to pick this thing up tomorrow and then the market's going to be flooded with cheap compressors.
00:23:53
Speaker
Well, this is a pretty good deal. I don't feel bad about this at all. No, no, no. And it's the compressor that we that we really wanted. One of the, you know, was in the top five for sure. Probably top two. Two. Yeah. So was that yesterday? Man. Yeah, I think it was. Boy.
00:24:16
Speaker
Yeah, we saw that ad. No, it was Monday. It was Monday, was it? Yeah. I don't know. Anyway, Ingersoll ran T30 popped up, you know, looked old, but looked fine and, uh, you know, got the guy down to 650 bucks. Like, all right, we're coming up there right now.
00:24:36
Speaker
We shot shot over to the bank, took out the money, drove to Saddlebrook, which is about an hour. And we get there. And man, what a junker piece of breath, no air filter, rag wrapped around it with like a hose clamp and just, you know, pipes like a little, a little copper line that's supposed to connect the whatever regulator to things just hanging bent, totally kinked.
00:25:06
Speaker
And everywhere oil could escape, there was film and dust, you know, so you could see that. Yeah, the pump was super crusty. Had a Balder motor or Lisa and I forget. But, you know. The four wires were suspicious. Yeah. I mean, it might have started up and it might have run, but it was it was a real heap. Yeah.
00:25:35
Speaker
What do they call those cars? Not what Jersey has an expression, not Doolies, Dookies. What? What do you guys call bigger cars? Hoopies. Hoopies. Yeah. That was a hoopty compressor. Yeah. Yeah. That was like, you know, like an old Cadillac, like a big, you know, some big boat of a car in El Dorado. Front wheel drive Cadillac. Yeah. You know, you hate to drive all the way somewhere and.
00:26:06
Speaker
But it was not even close to considering. No, I mean, been sick with worry if we were bringing that thing home. Yeah. And you know what? Now we didn't even talk about what we did to my truck, but I would have been nervous driving that thing back, I think. Oh, yeah. Just, you know, seeing the size of it in person and the weight and it might not even fit in the van.
00:26:31
Speaker
Yeah, I didn't think of that. That one seemed like it was maybe like a little bit shorter, but they're still they're big freaking compressors. 80 gallon tank. Yeah, 80 gallon on a pallet. So, you know, that raises it up six inches. Yeah.
00:26:51
Speaker
Yes, what we did is since we had to take my truck because of the height of the thing, we went and got the straps. I don't know how we diverged off of the strap thing. That's our style. So we ended up going to Tractor Supply and getting some straps there. They were the only ones that weren't
00:27:18
Speaker
Smart. Smart strap. Smart strap, yeah. They're job smart. Right. A subsidiary of smart strap. Yeah. They were cheap. They were 25 bucks for four and they seem better. Yeah. A little bit less plastic. Yeah, but they don't have the flashy packaging. They don't say tactical on the packaging. Tactical straps.
00:27:42
Speaker
We grab those and you know he's gonna he's gonna stick it in the back with a forklift and it's on a pallet so that's good the base will be you know should be.
00:27:56
Speaker
Stable? Yeah, like keep things from moving side to side because the back of the truck is only so wide, you know what I mean? You can only fit four feet between the wheel wells and the pallet. It's got to be, you know, around that size, maybe 36 by 36. Yeah, when you look at the picture, you don't get a full idea how big it is. It looks like it's just this little, you know, this little compressor. It's bigger than a person. Yeah, I mean, like, I don't think you'd be able to wrap your arms around the tank.
00:28:28
Speaker
You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. Like if you were to try and bear hug it because it's, it's taller than I am. I'm, I'm only like five, 10. Yeah. It looks like the same size as the compressor we have. Yeah. Um, so yeah, the, you know, the pallet will keep it really from moving a lot.
00:28:49
Speaker
back and forth at the bottom but you know all the weights really at the top of this thing for the most part it's a cast iron tank but still you got the motor up there the pump all the whatever electronic stuff so we got some two by fours that we can put front to back and then some ones that'll go side to side so we're kind of just like
00:29:10
Speaker
build a half a crate around it. Yeah. Then strap it down. Yeah. Grab the bejesus out of it. That should work out pretty good.
00:29:22
Speaker
Yeah, we'll be okay. I drove from Austin, Texas to China Spring once with a pair of speakers that were so big, they had to go sideways across my little dots and pick up truck. Oh my god. If I got going more than 30 miles an hour, the whole truck started shaking violently. Like sitting on the bed rails? Yeah, on the top of the truck.
00:29:51
Speaker
So we went down like in the middle of the night. So you could do stuff like that in the seventies and you know, not nothing happened. You can't get away with stuff like that. Now it's too much regulation, too much oversight. We had a good back then. I mean, people my age, we were lucky. You sure about that? Yes, I am. You sure about that? You sure about that?
00:30:19
Speaker
I'm very sure I went to college for two thousand dollars a semester. I don't even think about the student loans anymore. I just automatically comes out of the bank account every month. Just take my money. I mean, when I went to the new school, I mean, I paid seven hundred a credit. But like when I went to Arizona State, two thousand a semester. I mean, come on. Yeah, that's.
00:30:49
Speaker
And that was 1980, 82. Um, we, things got screwed up. You can say that again. They're getting worse. Um,
00:31:04
Speaker
So yeah, hopefully it's an easy, easy pickup guy sounds nice enough. Yeah. Um, yeah. We'll shoot out there in the morning, get back here. We got to finish painting all this crap we got in the shop. Yeah. We'll have some breakfast on the road. Yeah. Taco Bell breakfast. Mmm. Might not be able to make it back to the shop. No.
00:31:27
Speaker
Yeah. I heard some, you know, speaking of education, I heard some really uplifting news today when we were in the, running our errands. Yeah. About the national report card. Yeah. It made me proud to be a history major and a history teacher, ex history teacher, of course, but the lowest history scores since the inception of the national report card.
00:31:53
Speaker
Oh boy. Um, I tell you, I guess I shouldn't be surprised. I mean, the way they really, uh, you know, sort of whittle away at the curriculum. It was like that when I was a teacher and I used to get in trouble all the time because I, you know, didn't stick
00:32:16
Speaker
Strictly to the guy. They call me and go, what are you telling the kids? The truth. That's not in the curriculum. Oh, we didn't talk about, uh, last week. So last. Let's see. What day did we do the podcast last week? We did it at Wednesday, Wednesday. I think we talked about fishing Thursday was just.
00:32:42
Speaker
preparing for the install on Friday. Oh, that's I forgot all about it. We're back out in the Hamptons for the final.
Hamptons Installation Challenges
00:32:52
Speaker
Well, the tentative final, it was the tentative final leg of our installation. So same story as as the last couple of times we left here at four.
00:33:04
Speaker
And we got there. Oh, forgot about the, the simply safe thing. So we're driving, you know, we're like, just got to where the traffic starts to back up and, uh, on sunrise highway and ways, how does take the Hampton Bay's exit, which is like a little, little detour, I guess, save you a little bit of time. Um, um, I said to Rob, I said, man, we really need to start turning our compressor off at night.
00:33:33
Speaker
because something happened, somebody's compressor, you know, went up in flames. Anyway, not sooner does that come out of my mouth. Like literally, I'm talking like milliseconds, not even like seconds. My phone goes off, simply safe alert. Your smoke detector has been triggered. I'm like, what the hell?
00:33:53
Speaker
Yeah. So then like right, right after that, I get a phone call from simply safe. Hey, this is simply safe. Your things triggered. I'm like, yeah, I know. I'm like, we're not there. Do you want us to dispatch? Yes. Frickin send them, send them now. So we're freaking out, you know, still driving towards the jobs. We don't know what the hell's going on. I'm looking at all the cameras. I don't see any smoke. You know, we don't have any cameras inside, which now makes me think that we should get one for the inside, at least a wide shot so we can see what the hell's going on. We could certainly see smoke. Yeah. Um,
00:34:23
Speaker
because you don't know if it's a false alarm or what. So we're driving, I'm driving while looking at the front door camera waiting for a fire truck to pull up and it's probably 10 minutes. A cop finally pulls up and I get on this, you know, because you can talk through the doorbell camera. I said, hey, I said, we're not there. I said, I just unlocked the door. So he goes inside.
00:34:53
Speaker
And it's like five minutes of just
00:34:57
Speaker
You know, sheer panic. I don't know if he's in there with a fire extinguisher spraying some kind of fire. I'm like, whoa, my God. So then he finally comes back out and he's like, hey, he's like, I don't see anything. Blah, blah, blah. He's like, I'm just going to have the fire, you know, fire departments on the way. They're just going to come check everything out. Oh, yeah. We got to send them some. Yeah. We should probably bring it over there and deliver it in person.
00:35:24
Speaker
Yeah. I will send your wife. Yeah. Oh my God. You know, she eats that stuff up. She loves doing that stuff. Oh yeah. And she'll, she'll give them all the praise that were too soft spoken to give them.
00:35:41
Speaker
So yeah, they, there, it was a false alarm, total false alarm. Thank goodness. But you know, it was like, talk about sucking every ounce of energy out of your body. We were exhausted after that. Yeah. I mean, we didn't even get there yet. Yeah. It was like seven o'clock, seven something in the morning. Like, you know, I've been driving since four. Um,
00:36:05
Speaker
Yeah. And, you know, with a full day's install ahead, it was just like, holy crap. Take all the wind out of your sails, like just all the energy of the anxiety. I mean, we worked till five ten. Yeah. Yes, we got there.
00:36:22
Speaker
Um, you know, we unpacked all the stuff. We had the big foyer yellow foyer piece with us. Um, and some other stuff that we did a little wall caps out of walnut and, uh, the doors that we routed out for the hardware.
00:36:38
Speaker
Yeah, nobody was there to help us either. No, the PM was was not there. They had some replacement, you know, beyond their junior guy. Yeah, he opened up the door, but he wasn't much much use to us.
00:36:58
Speaker
So yeah, I mean, we set the floating shelves, we set the wall units, put all the doors back on the vanities, and put the hardware on the doors, installed the foyer. All those brass lights. Yeah, right. Are there three on each? Yeah. Yeah, so it's like...
00:37:18
Speaker
33 brittle brass rings into white oak. That's the thing. Each one, you're frightened and you're trying to clock them too. So you're like, do I go another half a turn? Do I go a half turn or do I back off a quarter turn? Yeah, it's really, everyone is totally nerve wracking. Yeah, because depending on where the thread starts, you have to cut that first thread, you might end up
00:37:47
Speaker
Yeah. Two tight ones. Like this middle one could be backed off. Yeah, exactly. So you're kind of playing it, you know, but you don't want it to be above the thing. Yeah. It's it. It was really, I mean, it sounds like a simple job, but it's something you just have to take your time to do it. And no, I did the Dutch door and I don't know. Did I have six inches or four? Uh, four, I think. Yeah. But they were big. Oh no. I think you might. Two at the top, two at the bottom. I'm not sure we had six. Yeah. I don't think it had six.
00:38:17
Speaker
but they were big, like four and a half or five inch leaf hinges. So they had like five screws in each. So that's 10, 40 screws. You break one of those off, it's a headache, a big headache.
00:38:34
Speaker
Yeah. And we didn't have any replacements either. So even if like you manage to get it out, drill it, whatever, there's no replacement. Yep. Everything went pretty smooth. The wall units, you know, we had these brass legs that were like kind of loose, but fit into a like a platform.
00:38:58
Speaker
We ran into some issues with that because we had to get the pocket screws into the face frame because of all the walls. So then we're like jacking it up on the blocks and have my head underneath the cabinet. That's only six inches off the ground. You know, running in the pocket screws.
00:39:14
Speaker
literally with his face smashed up against the bottom of the face frame, trying to look sideways. I'm like, yeah, this thing falls. It's going to hurt. Yeah, it's always something like that, right? Yeah. But the floating shells went in real easy. We had one that that potato chipped a little bit, so it was hard to get it down onto the the hardware. But once it was on there, it was good. The Hayfla
00:39:45
Speaker
floating shelf hardware, that stuff's great. Yeah, that's the ticket. It's a little bit tricky to drill.
00:39:53
Speaker
Like it's not it's not as bad as the the like shelfology ones because they're like they're like way too long. Yeah. I mean, you're always worried you're going to come shooting out the side. Yeah. I feel like it's unnecessary. Like I want the strength, but I don't need so much length on the things because we typically build the shelves out of solid wood. So I don't need the rod to go eight inches into the shelf. Yeah. These probably go about five.
00:40:22
Speaker
It might be for people who do like those plywood sandwiches. Yeah. I mean, even then, I mean, those super rigid. Yeah.
00:40:32
Speaker
The thing about them is you have to drill the hole and then you kind of have to drill like a little pocket on either side of the hole. Oh, yeah That's if you only mortise in The rail I mean you could run that mortise deeper you need a mortise for the rail which is three-quarters of an inch high But these were one inch thick shelves. We don't want to make it too deep because then it you know, you're taking away all the structure of the of the
00:41:03
Speaker
the back of the shelf. Cause you only have an eighth on either side. Yeah, they look good. I really liked that thinner look. I mean, it looks very chic. Yeah. And you don't have to use that extrusion. You know, you could screw those brackets right to the wall. Tom was so cheap that he used to buy, not the ones that we bought, the ones that we bought are adjustable. He would buy the non, maybe they were adjustable, I forget, but he would buy the ones and then just like screw them to a piece of plywood.
00:41:34
Speaker
because that's strong. Yes, of course it is a three quarter inch thick piece of plywood, you know, so you got three quarter inch screws, you know, versus this, which is held in with like T nuts in an aluminum extrusion. Mm hmm.
00:41:50
Speaker
And, you know, you know, the extrusion straight, at least straight enough for woodworking. Yeah. Yeah. You know, you could drill it into the it's easy to drill into the studs because you could just drill through the back anywhere where you land, you know, wherever you land. That was the other thing with like the shelfology and the shepherd. Mm hmm. Yeah. The shepherds, the shepherd, not so much. They had a lot of holes. Yeah. But the shelfology, you never caught a stud. No.
00:42:15
Speaker
And it was so thick. Yeah, there's no drilling through a quarter inch steel on site. Yeah. So they had everything spaced for studs, but you know, you never, it never worked out. Yeah. The holes were 16 on center, but the shelf, you got to set the shelf according to the space. It's not like, Oh, we'll just shift it three inches to the right. It's like, no, that's not going to work. Yeah. Um,
00:42:40
Speaker
So, yeah, it made it made the horrible task of doing floating shelves a little bit better. Yeah, we love floating shelves. Yeah, we're doing more. I know. It's like we have more floating shelves in the shop that we have to install and we have a job coming up where we have to build more. I know. What is it with those things? I don't know. I mean, I guess I guess open shelving has always been a thing, but
00:43:07
Speaker
People used to use those ugly brackets or something. Yes. I mean, I think with the, when you remove the block, the brackets, they become a more appealing design feature. So people go, Oh yeah, let me have some shelves here. Yeah. Luckily the ones that we're doing are between cabinets. Yeah. So we could just attach cleats in the shop. Yeah. I don't mind those, you know, you have to scribe them and stuff like that, but still.
00:43:35
Speaker
Yeah, just the back edge. You know, as long as your cabinets are square. Yeah. So it was a good day. Except we got home at like 10 o'clock. Yeah. Yeah. So we left at five 10 and, uh,
00:43:53
Speaker
Waze had us taking Sunrise High, like we're like, I was like, oh yeah, we'll stop and grab something to eat at this Wendy's on the, we always take like exit 70 on the LIE, then we're on this one piece of road for like, what, five miles? And then we get onto Sunrise Highway. I was just assuming that we were gonna take that way home because that's the way it's always taking us home. And then we're driving, driving like, I could have sworn we should have been off this road.
00:44:22
Speaker
It's like, oh, in three miles, take the exit for the Robert Moses Parkway. I'm like, oh, shit. I'm like, we can't take that. Parkway. Yeah. Warning, Will Robinson. Yeah, no parkways in the van. So we took some whacked detour. Oh my God. In the base shore, we got gas and then.
00:44:43
Speaker
had to take all these back roads to get back to the LIE. Yeah. That took like half an hour to go two miles. Yeah. It was like a 40 minute ordeal. I feel like getting from Sunrise Highway back to the LIE. We stopped at a Wendy's in Bayshore.
00:44:59
Speaker
The kind where they locked the bathroom. It was a treat. It was a really nice Wendy's. But yeah, I guess allegedly a rough part of town. Didn't, I mean, didn't feel like it, but no. I had a Baconator. Yeah. I had a spicy chicken sandwich. It was actually really good. Yeah. I haven't had Wendy's and I don't even know. Last time I had Wendy's is when we stopped and got French fries. Those were some good French fries.
00:45:25
Speaker
That's got to be over a year ago. Yeah, I mean, I don't really eat fast food, but no in a pinch. Yeah, I mean, it was good. It tasted like a like a real burger, I know. The fries were. Left something to be desired. But when you work, you know, we're already on hour 13 at that point. It's all good. There's no complaining about that food. No.
00:45:53
Speaker
But like right after I finished eating it, it started to rain and then the traffic started to build and it was, you know.
Wendy's Pit Stop
00:46:02
Speaker
three more brutal hours of driving. Yeah. Yeah. He went through Brooklyn past the, we did pass the, the future home of Dumbo Spumoni gardens. Yeah. Um, which we found out today. We were just talking to Keith about it. Yeah. Is literally in my old apartment. Yeah. Um, we, I lived in this loft apartment, like a really like rugged kind of, uh,
00:46:29
Speaker
law that only like musicians would pay to live in because it had no anything like no kitchen, no heat, no, no, it didn't have a thing. It has shower, like a plastic shower would out in the middle of the
00:46:45
Speaker
You know, it's just propped up on two by fours against the wall. No bathroom around the shower. And then had a toilet in a room. So we lived there. I was 46 old Fulton. So as I'm reading, it's like the address for the new Spimoni guns is 46 old Fulton.
00:47:04
Speaker
They converted our old dumpy place into a Spamoni gardens. Yeah. And it looks like they, they, it's not like they knocked it down because that was the wall that they had the thing written on, right? Yeah. Oh, cause it's, um, the auto place that it was next to.
00:47:19
Speaker
That's the wall. Okay. Um, it's still there cause he's looked on Google earth. Um, the only thing I could think of is maybe they took over the check cashing place that was on the other side of ours. Um, we always used to sit up and I think, and I wonder if I can like get into the check cashing place and I got through the ceiling and you know,
00:47:42
Speaker
Yeah. Check cashing place. Gotta have a lot of cash. Yeah. That was, that was what I used to spend my time thinking about. Probably some dude in there with a shotgun or a couple of Rottweilers. Yeah. Um, so that was exciting news and new, uh, ammonia guns, cause it's in a place where we could actually stop.
00:48:01
Speaker
Yeah, you get off a cabin Plaza West and you're right there. And, you know, I don't know if there's probably no parking at all, but you jump out, double drive around the block. Yeah. That'll take you only an hour. Yeah. That's probably how long I'm taking you to pizza.
00:48:20
Speaker
Yeah, but we'll get some money because, you know, you had the pizza, you got to have this promotion. Sure. I did have the pizza. It was good. Yeah. Um, yeah. So you will pull over, let me out, do a U-turn, just double park in front. I'll get, I'll get a quarter. Hey, pizza for gold. We gotta get pizza as well. Right. Oh yeah. And, uh, you know, just enjoy.
00:48:48
Speaker
Um, yeah, that was, I, you know, I had forgotten all about it and it was just Friday. It was like four days ago. I would, I was so tired on Saturday. Like I didn't even really feel recovered until like the end of Sunday. Like I was just kind of like, you're feeling recovered. It's just keep coming. Got water in the basement. Yeah.
00:49:16
Speaker
I had water in the basement, but thankfully it stopped. You have water in the basement. Yeah. It's probably still coming in. We had, we had a five and a quarter inches of rain over the weekend. Yeah. Well, you know who had water in their basements? A good thing. We moved the altar piece. Oh, they had water in their basement. That was a good thing. We moved it. Yeah. They would have to pay to make it again.
00:49:42
Speaker
Yeah, we can't be held liable for your, uh, yeah. Bad, dead drainage over there. Yeah. Hey, I mean, you know, big man upstairs. Yeah. Everything happens for a reason. Yeah. So it's been an eventful week, hasn't it?
Barn Door Project Plans
00:50:02
Speaker
Yeah. We're only halfway through. I know it goes so fast though.
00:50:07
Speaker
Yeah. So Friday, hopefully we'll be out of our extended install. I'm going to say we will be out of our extended. And so we're not going back. No, we're not going back. Um, yeah. So we'll wrap that up.
00:50:23
Speaker
the uh you'll be building some barn doors for the Hamptons yeah they're kind of like i mean they're barn doors they're not like the usual ones these are exteriors yeah uh exterior you're gonna be i think we might talk about this two layers the three-quarter uh
00:50:41
Speaker
Exterior grade MDF. Well, yeah, we did talk about this. I'm going to use the I want to clarify. I said use the track saw to make the V-groove, but we're going to use the track saw track with the router. Right. To run the V-groove. You know, they're going to be two two biparting doors, 57 by I think going to end up probably about 94 and a half high. They won't be too heavy. No.
00:51:10
Speaker
It's like literally two and a half sheets. They're probably going to weigh like 250 pounds each. Oh God. That exterior stuff is probably really dense, isn't it? It's super heavy. Yeah. Oh man. It's basically like MDF that's impregnated with this whatever resin. It's like really dark. Oh God. Yeah. 57, 57 wide. So five by eight.
00:51:39
Speaker
Fortunately, they didn't have any five by material, so we're gonna have to, we'll seam them on a V-groove. Yeah, tack it on there. And on the back, you know, I said the back is gonna be flat, so we'll probably just do maybe just one V-groove on the back or something. I don't know. Woo doggy. Yeah.
00:52:02
Speaker
We got that for the hand tins. The mantle we couldn't put in because they made the stone too big. Yeah. We had to bring it back and, uh, all got the inside. That went a lot smoother than I anticipated. Yeah.
00:52:17
Speaker
I was like, you know, something to do. And Jeff goes, Hey, you want to take a look at that mail? I'm like, Oh yeah. All right. See you tomorrow. Yeah. I had no idea that it was going to, you know, just sometimes, you know, things go well, things don't go well all the time, but sometimes they do. And I was like,
00:52:38
Speaker
All right. You know, this this will work. This will support the router. Jeff says, hey, use this bit. And I was like, all right, let me try. And the bit was nice and sharp. Yeah. You know, because I'm thinking, oh, man. Oh, this is hogging out a lot of material in one going to be chipping out. I went nice and slow. And everything was cool. Oh, it looks good. It'll be easier to put it down. Yeah. Oh, it'll just.
00:53:07
Speaker
Excuse me. I almost got a face cramp on that yawn. Yeah. Um, it'll just sit right on top of the stone. It was the stone was supposed to sit inside of the mantle and then get, you know, cocked in. Um, and I gave them the dimensions, which, which left a little room. Right. And it was still too big. He's like, I don't know what happened. They templated with the mantle there. Cause we had dropped the mantle off months, like whatever months ago. Yeah.
00:53:36
Speaker
Um, so, you know, we backcharged the builder a little bit, not as much as we probably should have worked. Would, yeah, you know, we're too. We'll see. We haven't got paid yet. So as if anybody talks to this, these people don't tell them that we already fixed the mantle. Took took two and a half days to fix that mantle. Yeah. I drew up a, uh,
00:54:02
Speaker
a little spice cabinet. Yeah. You see I put up cause you haven't seen it in full. Yeah. Full screen. I see it in all its glory. I just, when you look on your phone, you know, you don't really get the, so it's using these little spice caddies that, um,
00:54:21
Speaker
came with the plain English cabinets in an appliance garage, which obviously they're in the way, in the way there. I guess it's like typically they use it as like a pantry cabinet or something. So they've been thinking of a way to try and repurpose. Right. So my thought was this little cabinet, French cleats on the back, add a little cleat to the back of the spice things, makes them adjustable.
00:54:46
Speaker
So I drew like a walnut interior exterior cabinet with walnut face frame, cherry French cleats and the spice things are painted this really nice green. Yeah. So I drew it with the door. The door is also repurposed off of the
00:55:08
Speaker
The laundry room cabinet where we rebuilt, changed the layout to fix the off center window problem. That was really. Yes, we built three new doors and a face frame style for that. So it's using that door and the spice things. So the door I made the door green, too. I thought it looked really cool. Yeah, I love it. Client likes it. So we'll say put a number on that.
00:55:39
Speaker
I think we have, you know, we have to build a door. All we really, all we do is build a little cabinet and a face frame. Yeah. I think we have all the material laying around, um, you know, leftover from the, uh, built-ins that we did. Yeah. The one thing is the back. I'm not sure we have a piece for the back. Hmm. It's like 18 by 35. Yeah.
00:56:05
Speaker
Saw one piece of walnut, but the side cabinet sides are only five and three quarter. It's only like a seven inch deep cabinet. Um, almost like a little medicine cabinet. Yeah. It'll go like over these switches that she's kind of trying to visually obscure a little bit next to the, to the range, to the, to the right of the range. There's no cabinetry sits on a V groove wall.
00:56:31
Speaker
Yeah, the place is coming together. What's today's date? What do you know? May 3rd. They were talking about moving in on the 8th. Yeah. I hope everything goes well. No, the barn doors are not going to be right by the 8th. No, sure. We got the material coming on Monday. Well, that's the garage. That's that's not here. Not the garage. It's like a pool house kind of garage attached. Yeah. Garage is attached like the pool house to garage slash cabana.
00:57:03
Speaker
Is that like the pool stuff that's in there is that like the pool fill yeah, I think so Yeah, I was I was wondering why they put it in there
00:57:15
Speaker
Yeah, it was like kind of like in the middle of the room. Yeah. Yeah. I would think they would put that in like sort of like a shed out, like a, like an adjunct, like how we had our dust collector on Wilson. I think they said something about there being like a utility room in there. Um, I think, you know, that's going to be all walled off and there'll be like a bathroom in there. And I'm sure they'll have maybe some cabinets with, uh, or maybe like a little fridge or something. Um,
00:57:44
Speaker
Well, yeah, I got the barn door track coming. It's a 19 foot track, so it'll come in three pieces, which is that workout to be six foot four. Yeah. Yeah. That's that's hefty, too. That'll be the biggest, biggest one we've done. Oh, yeah. Easily 19 foot. Yeah. I mean, we made some doors that were. Over three feet wide, I think. Like two doors. I forget.
00:58:14
Speaker
We did the cherry ones and we did the. We did the cherry ones and we did the. Those superior ones. The superior ones, I think were wider.
00:58:34
Speaker
Podcasting. Yeah, the wife was asking me if I wanted an omelette for dinner. Ooh, that sounds good. Does she know how to make an omelette, though? Yeah, she's pretty good. Yeah. Now, like, I mean, it's not like a French omelette. No. Yeah. No, it's homemade omelette. Yeah. I mean, I kind of like those, though. Yeah. Like better than a French omelette. Yeah. Yeah.
00:58:56
Speaker
And she'll like, if I make it, you know, she was, how come everything you make is better? He's, I mean, probably made about 10,000. Right. I call it repetition. Right. Practice makes perfect.
00:59:13
Speaker
I mean, 10,000 sprites. That's not even enough. I mean, that's six months worth of brunches.
Episode Reflections and Future
00:59:22
Speaker
It's like a try. If you do the math, I like how many plates you served. I mean, it's it's an immense number. Yeah. Five hundred and nine, six days a week. Yeah.
00:59:36
Speaker
Yeah. I mean 3000 a week. Holy cow. Right. 150,000 a year. Yeah. That doesn't include holidays where you turn like 700 covers. Yeah. I know. I know. I mean, the numbers in the restaurant game like that are phenomenal. Oh yeah.
00:59:56
Speaker
Well, we're about to tick over the one hour mark. All right. That was a pretty good episode. You know, we usually go into, I don't even know what we're going to say or do, but, uh, this went well. Yeah. We had some stuff to talk about. Um, we still, you know, I know Tim from true trade. We got to get him in. Um, if you guys have any suggestions of people you'd like to hear on the podcast, um,
01:00:23
Speaker
We're not doing remote guests. Yeah. You got to come to the studio. Right. So if you're going to suggest somebody and they live in like, uh, you know, California, that's not going to work unless they're willing to travel. So talk, you talk to them first, but if you know anybody that's local to us that you'd like to hear on the podcast, um, or even just things that you want to us to talk about, no guarantees that we're going to talk about them. Cause we get a lot of suggestions and I'm just like, man,
01:00:52
Speaker
Mars vampires. Yeah. That we'll talk about. Yeah. But. Space Force. Secret Space Force. If it's too stiff of a topic. I'm not going to talk about it. Yeah, it doesn't. Can't make it. Can't spend an hour out of that. No, those things need to come up spontaneously. Then it's fine. Yeah. But you can't. We're going to talk about the perils of being a small business owner. It sounds like a horrible episode.
01:01:17
Speaker
We talk about that all day, every day. Right. We I woke up at two o'clock this morning because of the barrels of a small business. Yeah. You know, you ever wake up and it's like you're tired. But then you start thinking about stuff. It's like, like, oh, crap. I mean, it's it's not even super important stuff. It's just little stuff. I had my nose in the checkbook at four fifteen doing the taxes.
01:01:45
Speaker
I'm like, yeah, this is fun. Yeah. It's like, oh my God, go back to sleep, please. All right. Well, we'll leave it at that. We'll see you guys next week. Ciao. As always, Rob and I, thank you for tuning in and we'll see you next week. If you want to help support the podcast, you can leave us a review on Apple podcasts. Again, we appreciate your support. Thanks for tuning in.