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On this week’s episode of BookWatch, we are covering Homer’s The Odyssey and Christopher Nolan’s 2026 film interpretation. This week, we discuss the star-studded cast and how well they brought gods and heroes to life. From Matt Damon and Tom Holland to Anne Hathaway and Robert Pattinson, we had a lot of great performances in this film. Opinions vary more widely than Odysseus’ journey so be sure to leave us your thoughts and tell us who you think transformed into their role like Circe transformed the crew.

Join hosts Chris, Jordyn, and Sarah-Daye as they break down what worked, what didn’t, and whether this adaptation does the book justice.

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Introduction to Book Watch Podcast

00:00:00
Speaker
Welcome back to another episode of Book Watch. Today we are going to be watching Homer's The Odyssey, originally composed in the 8th and 7th centuries BC, and its 2026 adaptation of the same name written and directed by the incredible Christopher Nolan.
00:00:18
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There are many, many translations and audio books out there, so we can state which ones we listen to, but find your best poison and dive in and trudge through it along with us. I'm Sarah Day.
00:00:33
Speaker
and I'm Chris. And I'm Jordan. And we will get started right after these messages.
00:00:47
Speaker
Welcome to Book Watch, the podcast where pages meet screens. Each week, we dive into the world of adaptations, comparing beloved books with their cinematic counterparts. From faithful retellings to bold reimaginings, we'll break down what worked, what didn't, and what made each adaptation unforgettable. Whether you are a bookworm, a movie buff, or both, grab your bookmark, grab your popcorn, and let's watch some books.

Exploring The Odyssey and its Themes

00:01:12
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So the Odyssey is an ancient Greek poem traditionally attributed to Homer. It follows Odysseus, the king of Ithaca, as he struggles to return home after the Trojan War. His journey takes 10 years and is filled with monsters, gods, temptations, shipwrecks, and dangerous challenges.
00:01:31
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Meanwhile, his wife Penelope waits for him in Ithaca while their son Telemachus comes of age and attempts to protect his family and his father's kingdom from the suitors competing to marry Penelope.
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Speaker
More than an adventure story, the Odyssey is a story about homecoming, identity, loyalty, perseverance, and the meaning of home. Odysseus must not only survive his physical journey but also rediscover who he is and what he values the most.
00:01:58
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The Odyssey has had an enormous and lasting impact on literature, art, film, television, and pop culture. As one of the foundational works of Western literature, its story has influenced how audience understand the hero's journey, adventure narratives, and stories about returning home.
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The story continues to resonate because of its central themes are universal. The desire to return home, the challenges of growing up, the the importance of loyalty, and the struggle to maintain one's identity.

Nolan's Adaptation: Focus on PTSD over Gods

00:02:25
Speaker
What did you guys think of Nolan's modern retelling of The Odyssey? And did he you know bring that epicness to life? And did it hold up to the epicness of what The Odyssey is?
00:02:41
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I think yes, as far as did it hold up. I really liked that it felt like this one was not so much about the gods interfering in his life, although that was there in the background. It was about, it felt like a PTSD story to me. It felt like this is the journey he had to take from war to recovering enough that he could come home and be himself with his family or re reacquaint himself with his life that was before. he had regrets. He had all this trauma from what he did during war and he had to figure his way back.
00:03:16
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That's exactly why I didn't like it. I missed having the gods around as characters. um the Athena drives so much of the story through her direct interference and direct actions. And she kind of got pulled way, way, in my opinion, she got pulled way, way back to just being like a visual representation of his trauma and PTSD, like you were saying, Chris. And I didn't like that. I wanted like Keep in mind, guys, this is coming from me, the Percy Jackson girl. Like, i wanted i wanted the gods to be there and be characters and have personalities and see them interact. Like, I wanted that, like, more of the mythology behind it and the, like, fantastical nature of the story. i wanted more of that. And it, like, wasn't really there. Like, the most we got was Cersei. But even that, like...
00:04:15
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It didn't feel magical. It was more body horror, which was awesome. It was really cool. It was really, really cool how they did it. I wasn't expecting it, and i but I liked how they did it. But it wasn't like, I don't know it didn't feel magical the way that I personally prefer my so my Greek myth stories to feel magical.
00:04:37
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But I think it was very Christopher Nolan to do that, though. yeah He made it almost feel like it could be politically relevant. He made it feel like ah um people coming back from war today might also relate with some of this stuff. And he likes to do things that have those multiple facets. So I agree. I really miss some of that God stuff and having the more magical interfere with the story. But I think that for a Christopher Nolan movie, for the epic he created out of it, I think he did a good job with what he what he could put together.
00:05:07
Speaker
Right. It's a much more grounded story. It's made for modern audiences um that, you know, might not be.

Modern Themes and Character Analysis

00:05:20
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As like beholden to what a god represents. um And that it is Like, there were still the mythical creatures. Like, we still had the Cyclops. We still had the Sirens. Cersei still had magic. But...
00:05:37
Speaker
gods have always been kind of a, um like like a myth, like they're the explanation for what is in our world. And I liked that. They they still said, you know, Zeus's law, like don't anger the gods, respect the gods, but we didn't see them. And so it it made, it we were the characters, you know, like we don't see the gods. So it made us like these people that they're just this mythical, you know,
00:06:04
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you know, just explanation of why we're, why we have these rules and, you know, that this, like, um the seas are mad because you've you've made Poseidon mad. um But it still grounded it in a way that made it a little bit more realistic, even though we're battling sirens and cyclopsies. Yeah.
00:06:26
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Well, and I think that is kind of, it's still, for me at least, is kind of a detriment because like Odysseus' is like fatal flaw is his hubris and his arrogance and like that when you don't, when you take away the gods and him having to overcome the gods challenging him, like that whole storyline is his arrogance thinking the gods can't stop me, Poseidon can't stop me. So if the gods become these like intangible metaphysical things that like they're like representations of you know these other concepts like it takes that part of his character out of the story as well so like on the one hand yeah I totally agree with you like it does make it more grounded and more like realistic for a modern audience but i felt like it detracted from who Odysseus is as a character like
00:07:21
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After like listening to the text, you know, hu ultimately, I think I wanted different things from this movie that I didn't get. And so I've, I'm feeling more like disappointed is more of the feeling that I'm left with after sitting on it for a couple of hours after seeing it, but like it was beautiful to look at. Like the soundtrack was great. Like there's a lot, there's a lot as a movie and I'm sure we'll, we'll talk about this too at the end, but like as a movie, like rating, it's like an eight, nine for sure. But like as an adaptation and did I feel like it like was authentic to the story of Odysseus? Like not really. um and we'll get more into that next week, all the changes and everything. um But like you're right, like as an adaptation, they definitely cut a lot out. They rearranged scenes. um What I did appreciate, though, is that
00:08:22
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ah but You think that the Odyssey is going to be more of his journey, but a lot of it is about the suitors and his return home. And you don't think about that when you think of the Odyssey. You think about the Cyclops. You think about the Sirens. um So I really liked how Nolan was able to intertwine where he is in the opening of the book on Cersei's, I mean, Calypso's Island. um and the suitors and how, you know, it's him talking to Calypso and getting his memories back. And then it's Telemachus finding out more about Troy and how he left. And it's all these flashbacks woven in with the suitor story, which is a majority of the book in reality. So I, I thought it was really cool how he told the story of Odysseus. Yeah. Yeah.
00:09:13
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And I mean, there was different there's always different translations to that. he He was pulling from a specific, more modern one, it sounds like. So we could have been reading one that wasn't quite the same translations of certain parts as well that could have changed a little bit of the story.
00:09:27
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um But definitely. was Yeah, i agree. The adaptation was well done for what it was, but it wasn't a good adaptation of directly from the book. It it was probably medium, oh ah yeah, or six answer for that. And it would be interesting for us to read the adaptation that he...
00:09:47
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based his film on or the the translation, I guess that we should say on that. Right. um And then maybe we can do like a follow-up episode one day and see, you know, how does his movie compare to that translation, but yeah the original Homer poem, a little different. But yeah, we'll get into that next

Casting and Character Portrayals

00:10:05
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week. This week though, we're going to be talking about the cast. And if we have time, we can talk a little bit about the sets because I think they deserve recognition.
00:10:16
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Definitely didn't think about the fact that Christopher Nolan movies are made for that big loud booms and all that stuff. ah um The baby was definitely jumping around in ah in on the belly a bit. Definitely a little bit, what's going on in there? I mean, obviously safe from with all the you know the body protecting him, but she definitely said he was moving around all throughout the movie. ah Um, speaking of the sound though, Chris, the, the twing of the bow. I loved Love that. yeah
00:10:49
Speaker
Yeah. That trailer beforehand though, still got me even knowing that it was coming. The horror trailer. Yeah, so listeners, i um Jordan and I are both not horror people. Chris, are you not? Okay, so none of us are horror people. And I was the first to see it i and i immediately texted them after the horror trailer because it was like the last one right before the movie. And I'm like, oh my God, you guys. really scary horror trailer before the movie starts. And i I kind of explained the beginning of the trailer to give them a warning because I did not have one. It it was a horrible. Great trailer. Great horror trailer. But I will not be seeing that movie. I couldn't tell you I was sat like this until it was over. Like I i was like, I want no part of that. It's none of my business. Rachel did that. I sat there and decided, well, it'll probably be fine. And then the there's the little jump scare moment towards the beginning of it. And that was it. Yeah. I jumped out of my skin. and Yeah, me too.
00:11:45
Speaker
Yeah. yeah um And if you saw, if you've seen the movie and you saw the trailer, then you know exactly what we're talking about. But yeah, it, Chris, the first jump scare right at the beginning of the trailer. And I'm like, nope, nope, nope being right out of that movie. But I mean, it looks incredible. It looks like it's going to be an amazing horror movie. Like I said, the trailer was great, but I will not be watching way. No, sir.
00:12:05
Speaker
no way no sir um Okay, so let's get into the cast of the Odyssey and we'll start with the man himself Odysseus played by Matt Damon. What did you guys think of this casting?
00:12:17
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I think for like how we've already talked about like Nolan's interpretation of like it being more of like a veteran like PTSD story. um I think Matt Damon was excellent throughout. Like, I can't think of anybody else that I would have rather had as Odysseus. um But I wish, again, like the changes to his character, like, I wish he had played some scenes a little bit more arrogant, like with his affect and like the way he's talked and like the way he like moved like i wish he had some of that like attitude and like I'm not worried about it like I got this type of deal um in certain scenes but ah most of the time I was very very pleased with what I was seeing from Matt Damon
00:13:02
Speaker
I know character or actors oftentimes don't want to like they want to be in the movie as much as possible, like as themselves. um But I can almost wish they would have ah given him more of the like Athena changing his appearance. like So she didn't just look like a guy in a cloak um throughout parts of those scenes where he was supposed to be look like an old man, decrepit, you know, unable to do stuff. It was it was a little missing there.
00:13:26
Speaker
taking out the gods like it wasn't really Athena, like it was his personification of the woman that was killed in front of him. So she wasn't really there to disguise him like that wasn't an actual character.
00:13:37
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I kind of couldn't tell because she's supposed to be somewhat like the gods show up in our people and at times. And so is what the idea was. So I wondered if that was Athena still guiding him through the story with, because it seemed like she kept showing up with little little nudges on ah Calypso's Island on, you know she was there throughout and that could have just been a member, but I think that's supposed to be that, that inception, you know, right. It's up for interpretation. Yeah. Be like, well, it was that she there or was it just his own guilt leading him through this? So then let's take a vote.
00:14:12
Speaker
Who thinks it was really Athena? I think it was an uncomfortable in the middle of both. Like, I think it was probably the goddess, but I didn't like how, like, it became more of a manifestation of his guilt and trauma, like, and not being able to tell. Like, I'm leaning more towards it wasn't actually Athena just because no other gods were present. And, like, Odysseus has such blatant disdain for the gods. And, like, I don't have to pray to them. I don't have to sacrifice to them. I don't have to listen to them. like So I'm leaning more towards it was just him like kind of losing his mind a little bit and like manifesting her. um so
00:14:54
Speaker
But i i didn't like it. Oh, see, I did love it. And i I thought that she was Athena up until that moment. And then I'm like, oh, wow, like this is a really interesting um twist. Yeah.
00:15:08
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for lack of a better word. And I really, really enjoyed it Because again, like I really liked the grounded story and taking out the gods. Like, yes, I want to be on the Percy Jackson, like grown up Percy Jackson scene, the gods. It is fun. You know, we've got season three coming out, Jordan, and so you'll get your fix soon. um But, you know, like I did go into it expecting to see the gods and the fact that they were removed was so interesting and such an, like you don't, cause she's cast as Athena. So you think like you go into this movie, they're marketing it like you're going to see the gods. Athena is there.
00:15:42
Speaker
And then, For her, like you said, he has such disdain for the gods. So like you are Odysseus, you don't really believe in them or or listen to them so that like they're not really there.
00:15:57
Speaker
um And so for her not to really be Athena at the end, you know, interpret it how you will um was just, I mean, it was just really good storytelling. Yeah. His speech to Penelope, though, was amazing. I loved that performance, him reminiscing and the way he was working through his feelings about everything he did that ah that was that sold it for me. It was like, okay, that's that's a wonderful Matt Damon performance. So i don't it doesn't really matter one whether if she was real or not. When they cut off her head during the um in the flashback, it cuts the head off the statue of Athena. So that made me another reason, I thought,
00:16:37
Speaker
It probably was her. And that was the depiction he got of, you know, they knew we we both killed a manifestation of her and we've destroyed her temple and all this. So.
00:16:48
Speaker
OK, Penelope is played by Anne Hathaway. this was the breakout performance for me. every Every bit of her performance was just like, wow, that she she is eating up this screen. And I think they filmed her from the angle of like she was yelling at you. Like you've got you and she was talking to Temeculous. And it just every time you got her, every facial expression, every intonation of her voice, it's just like, wow, i this is amazing. you you' You are acting the hell out of this movie. This is an awesome performance. Agreed.
00:17:24
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um Jordan and I were texting ah while you were seeing the movie and I told her, I'm like, I think Anne Hathaway stole the whole show.
00:17:34
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That's what I told Rachel literally after we got right after we got out of it was almost that exact verbiage. Yeah, exactly. I cannot wait for award season to see like these are going to a real fun Oscars. There's a lot of good content coming out. So I'm excited. But I think that this is definitely going to get a lot. And if she does not get i don't know she would be best actress or best supporting. But if she does not get a nominate a nomination for that role, I would be very surprised.
00:17:59
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Yeah.
00:18:04
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Jordan, any thoughts on Anne? Not really. like, thought it was all right. I didn't really like it that much. ah My biggest issue, like, broadly with this cast is because of the story that you're telling and the time and place in which it takes place, you can't do a lot of like,
00:18:25
Speaker
costuming and makeup to not to have these people not look like who they are so i really struggled the whole film and not just being like oh there's anne hathaway oh there's tom holland oh it's endaya it's shirley's they're on like and like identifying them as their real selves like it would it like matt damon really and like um
00:18:49
Speaker
John Leguizamo, the pig herder. yep Those were really, and Robert Pattinson, were really the only people that I was like actually buying that they were not just themselves in Greek armor. Like everybody else, I was like, I'm like, that's literally just Anne Hathaway. Like, it's a great performance, but like, it's still just Anne Hathaway giving a great performance. Not, I never, i didn't buy it as like Penelope. Cause I, and again, I think that has more to do with my expectations going in of what the movie was
00:19:26
Speaker
supposed to be in my brain and it not being that and so I think if I were to re-watch it which like I'm not paying to see it again in IMAX but like if if ah if and when I do ever like re-watch it I think I will like everything a lot better because I'll know what to expect going into it but it didn't meet my like preconceived notions and so I just was like that's them that's the people it was hard to i mean i had no problem with it but i get like what you're saying because this year specifically like anne hathaway has already already been in the devil wears prada tom holland zendaya they're gonna be in spider-man they're also zendaya and uh
00:20:08
Speaker
edward cullen robert patterson are going to be in dune coming up right and um oh john bernthal is going to be in spider-man also and then he was just in the punisher special feature and then zendaya was also in euphoria and so like it's just like they're all over the place right now so it is it is like yes these are those those people but um And it's one of the problems with the star-studded cast like that. Like, it's what you're saying, like Christopher Nolan. Yeah, we got all these amazing actors, but if we'd had all unknowns and this was done as what it was like, ah presented as a full fresh take of, you know, Hey, you won't know these faces, but you'll, you'll see the character instead. That could have been really fun, but it wasn't what Christopher Nolan does really. He he likes his friends. He likes his, yeah like, likes to be around fame. I feel like, um, this casting has been buzzing since he started casting. Like first it was all like, wow, this is a star studded cast. And then there was a lot of controversy over some of these castings. So like, like not only are we seeing these faces lot this year, but we've also been hearing about this cast for years. Yeah.
00:21:17
Speaker
Yeah. yeah that's true ultimately though like for me and i was telling my husband when we walked out i'm like i can narrow this down to probably like four of these actors that i think were really great in their roles and should stay and everybody else could have been replaced and i it wouldn't have made a difference to my enjoyment of the film unfortunately um but like Anne Hathaway I think could have been replaced and I would have been, it would have sat the same for me. But that, all that being said, Anne Hathaway did give a great performance. It just didn't work for like for me personally. Like, and that's just my own problem.
00:21:57
Speaker
Tom Holland as Telemachus did work for me though. I thought he was great. I thought he was adorable. I loved him. I, but I love Tom Holland. So I'm going to see everything that Tom Holland is in. Cannot wait to go see him at Spider-Man at the end of the month. Which is valid. Yeah, he was fine. I felt like he didn't have a lot to do in the story. I felt like even though they you know they did the things that he was supposed to do, I felt like he was still lacking. and that's what Rachel said, too, is that his character sure was not there to do much. He was just scenery and he was just a a plot device to bring us through. And that was fine. um And that's what he is in the book for the most part. He's not a huge character other than he's there to be the yeah i eyes into the.
00:22:36
Speaker
Yeah. I thought that they gave him more of a role in the film than he had in the book. um And maybe it's just because it's Tom Holland and they wanted to give him more screen time. But I really like how they wove, like interwove what was happening with the suitors in Ithaca and him getting his memory, Odysseus getting his memory back. um And i like I thought he had a great, like he...
00:23:05
Speaker
I see what you're saying. Like he was there to push forward the story of the suitors and like. um Yeah, just yeah, push, push that story forward. But I don't think it was unnecessary.
00:23:18
Speaker
No, I'm not mad about it at all. I just think he was. I mean, that that role, that's what it's meant to be, is he is the son that needs to um do this a part of the story. But he doesn't really it's not his story. He is a side character still, even though.
00:23:32
Speaker
I liked giving him the throne in the end. I liked the way they, uh, they, he, they changed the ending to be me and my wife are going to sail off to the sunset while we give our son, the kingdom was kind of a fun way to give them a little more, Hey, you've earned this, you know, you've been fighting the fight for our family for this whole time. And now it's time for you to take over and we'll be back. But, uh, for now we're going to go enjoy some actual time together since, you know, i haven't seen anybody for 20 years.
00:23:59
Speaker
That's funny because I actually thought like it because of that scene in particular, like I'm like, this actually might be Telemachus's story.

Character Changes and Absence of Gods

00:24:07
Speaker
Like, yes, it is called the Odyssey because it's Odysseus. But like, I'm like, it is actually his like coming of age story.
00:24:15
Speaker
It was. Yeah. um And that change was all had you had its ups and downs because there was, you know, he hasn't seen his son in. since he was born basically either. So it's like, you're going to leave your son. You've never, you've barely had any time with, and just, uh, you know, go off with your wife. Now you don't care to, you know, train up your son and some of the, you know, things that, you know, and spend some time with him and actually, you know, enjoy your family.
00:24:38
Speaker
Can we talk about, I know that this is going to be a plot point later in our discussion, but can we talk about the acting in the scene with the dog? When, Dalamachus realizes who Odysseus is.
00:24:52
Speaker
Love that scene, but also hated that scene. was like, this dog's waited all this time for you to come back and now you're he's just gone now and he finally got to see his owner. And yeah, I cried. I definitely, that one got me, yeah but it was wonderful acting. Yeah.
00:25:07
Speaker
Yeah, that was a scene that really sold both Telemachus and Matt Damon. Like I was i had bought bought into those two specifically earlier, but that scene really like sealed the deal for me where I'm like, oh, these guys, like this dynamic, this father-son dynamic, I haven't didn't get to watch my son grow up and I didn't get to didn't even know what my father looks like. I can't recognize him when I see his face, like that moment coming together and be like, you're him. you're Welcome home, stranger. Like, oh,
00:25:35
Speaker
So good. Like that was a great, great moment. It was so good. Yeah. Okay. And Tom Holland's wife Zendaya as maybe Athena.
00:25:46
Speaker
Athena question mark. Wasted. I feel like she was wasted. And she's like, she's one of the people that like, like I already said, like she could have been replaced with a no name actress and it wouldn't have changed anything because she because it was left ambiguous of whether or not she was actually the goddess like there again, there's so much that. Athena like sticks her hands into this story and does her own self with her own power that because it was removed I was like Zendaya didn't need to be here for this like I'm glad she's here love seeing her but like it didn't need to be like this
00:26:20
Speaker
Well, Mike's what I was wondering before I ever got went into it is so much of the book. Athena is showing up as different people. She's not showing up as herself. So it's like if they're putting a name like the day into this, they're not going to do that. So I was like, how are they going to same as like Matt Damon not changing his face like they could have done. um They didn't give her those different roles and she didn't get the conversations with the with Zeus and stuff that we get in the book.
00:26:44
Speaker
So it was like, yeah, this is lacking most of the actual story this character had throughout. But I think she did sell the plot moving forward of his guild and stuff. So I thought the performance was good, but you're probably right. It didn't have to be Zendaya, but I'll always take some more Zendaya, I think.
00:27:01
Speaker
Yeah. well and i agreed. I think you're right. Like the, especially in the beginning when she's just like the manifestation and when we think she's Athena and he's talking about like the gods, you, you, you never make sense or whatever that conversation is that could have been replaced. But yeah,
00:27:18
Speaker
when she's sitting on the stairs at the end and he's talking to Penelope, but he's looking at her and like, they, they hold hands and it's like that, like forgiveness. um I think like that was Zendaya performance. Yeah.
00:27:33
Speaker
I agree. Well, and I think you could have done both, like not to like you know sideline coach and Christopher Nolan, heaven forbid. I feel like you could have had both. I feel like you could have still had the like ambiguity of the the way she appears.
00:27:50
Speaker
could have still been the girl from Troy that they killed in the, in the temple, like, and still been like visually she chose to remind him like you did this and this is what you've done. And she also could have been a goddess who has power and autonomy and can take action and make choices and do stuff throughout the story as well. And I think it hurt Telemachus' story as well because he doesn't get to interact with her and that takes away like a level of bond between him and Odysseus. Like, And then his, you know, the next person on our list is Mentor played by Ryan Hurst. Like for a lot of the story, Mentor is Athena.
00:28:28
Speaker
Yeah. And I was waiting for that reveal too. Like when we met Mentor, I'm like, I'm waiting. I'm like, okay, that's Athena. Like, yeah how's that going to be explained? And like, it doesn't. And I said to Ethan, I was like, it could have been great, like that scene where like that that final battle moment that Telemachus has where he's like over his shoulder slicing somebody. It would have been great if you paused for a half a second and it cut and it's Zendaya and then cut and it's back to Ryan. Right. And like doing that, those sorts of cuts to show that like this is the goddess Athena choosing to be here to guide you.
00:29:02
Speaker
Telemachus as your mentor as hey the pun the joke where we get the word mentor from I'm sure like you know to show that she is invested in this family and this story while still letting Ryan Hurst do a great job in the minor role like you I feel like we could have had I feel like we could have had our cake and eaten it too Yeah, and the rest the suitors were supposed to die. Similarly, she's supposed to step in and basically kill off the rest the ones that he left behind. That would have been a good time to show a random soldier that was switching back and forth between her face and that soldier would have been fun. Yeah, and Zendaya could have nailed that too. Oh yeah, she would have loved that. Yeah, or even all the guys who ended up just kneeling at the end like freaking cowards. If she would have smited them as a goddess. Yeah.
00:29:52
Speaker
Come on. It could have been sick. I don't know. I'm not Christopher Nolan, but like, ah I feel like this is a better, better vibe we've got going on. It's how Homer wrote it. So it should have just, you know, that part maybe stick to the script. You've had, you literally had this script for 3000 years. Just stick to it.
00:30:09
Speaker
Well, okay. So I was thinking that to do the Odyssey justice, like, yes, Christopher Nolan could do it, but he's a filmmaker. And I think to do the actual Odyssey justice needs to be a TV show. And I would love to see like HBO take it on and do like the, it both like the Iliad and the Odyssey and do like a two season, you know, or even like split it up to more seasons, whatever. um But i like the story that Christopher Nolan was telling um is it just is not Homer's story like yeah he took the guys out of it for whatever reason, you know, and so this is his movie and it was a great movie but I would love to see somebody take on.

Nolan's Unique Storytelling

00:30:54
Speaker
actual Odyssey with the gods involved and the Iliad. Cause I think that would be incredible too. um ah is the Odyssey Taylor's version. Yeah. chrispher all like that But that's what it is though. And yeah i mean and that's the point of filmmaking. Right. And that's fine. Like, and again, like I think all, all of my like dissatisfaction with this film can come back and be traced back to that's not what I was expecting.
00:31:21
Speaker
And that's not what I wanted. And so I'm disappointed. But so like I'm as we're talking, I am working my way to get over that and just like taking say take it for what it is, which is Christopher Nolan's interpretation of a translation of an epic poem from 3000 years ago. And what does that look like? And is it cool or not? Yeah, it's pretty freaking cool.
00:31:43
Speaker
um You know. But it makes total sense, Jordan, where you're coming from, because you are the Percy Jackson girl. So I'm a purist. Okay, before we move on, um Jordan, you mentioned Ryan Hurst as mentor. Chris, do you have any thoughts on
00:32:04
Speaker
I barely remember him being there other than the fact that he died in that one scene where in the temple, that's all I remember of him. So yeah. um Okay. Then moving on, we've got Calypso Charlize Theron.
00:32:19
Speaker
This one pissed me off actually. I this one this one was the worst of like that's literally just Shirley's there on in a fishnet like that's crazy like there's no work done to make her look like anything other than what she was not to mention the major difference in her character like for me the the Calypso of the Odyssey is a lot more of like a dark character and like she keeps she like keeps Odysseus there and like the lotus flowers are not like oh to protect your mental health or whatever like It's because she wants to keep him there. Like she's trapping him there. She, hey, she's sexually assaulting him. Cause that's the other thing. They took out all of the like Odysseus cheating on his wife out of this story, which like I get, cause you want him to be like morally pure or whatever, which he's not. And that's kind of the point is that he's not morally pure at all, but like she drugs him, keeps him trapped and sleeps with him for seven years.
00:33:26
Speaker
This is not a good guy. and the book has multiple other times where he's oh absolutely with all sorts other women. and He's a dog. Don't get me wrong. i mean and And culturally, I think in Greek, you know, the the timing here, it was less of a problem. But um it definitely was. I was going to make a comment. when after After I read the book, I meant to write it down. Something along the lines of. So it's just a story of a guy who, you know, spends 20 years cheating on his wife and work training, work in his way home slowly or something, you know. Totally. But yes, it was.
00:33:56
Speaker
Odysseus is a dog. like Don't get me wrong, but like the character of Calypso specifically drugs him, traps him, sexually assaults him for seven years, and you're trying to make it... like The fact that they're trying to turn it into, like well, I felt bad for you. I was trying to protect your peace. Yeah.
00:34:14
Speaker
I was literally rolling my eyes during that like final conversation they were having like I was doing it for you. That's what all abusers say like shut up. I got pissed. And she is a goddess and so you know the fact that we take out some wild of the gods she felt like she was some sort of other ah inbe between thing that we don't really get ah an answer on what she was supposed to be in the story. That's what I was going to say is like we don't really get an explanation of why she's on this island and like who she is other than her name is Calypso. And like if but if you don't know the Odyssey and know her story like you wouldn't really know like why is she on this island?
00:34:48
Speaker
right Percy Jackson helped me that far more than any of this did like reading those books and his time spent there. You learn a lot more about what her what who she is and why she's there because she talks about it with Percy through his time there.
00:35:00
Speaker
Yeah. Well, and it's really funny. We can talk about Percy Jackson more like all the time, but like i'm I'm loving and seeing and liking and reposting a lot of memes that are like, you know, Christopher Nolan had to cut this and that because it didn't fit, didn't fit. and it's like Rick Riordan did this in a cave with a children's book. Like quoting Iron Man. It's like, yeah, if Rick Riordan can make it work for middle schoolers, if you really wanted to, you could have made it work for this film. But there's one i think did i send it to you guys like the the one that was like it took uh odysseus uh seven years to do it what uh what uh percy did in three days yeah yeah it took him 20 years it took percy jackson a week so yeah but obvious like and and that is like it's completely like apples to oranges like they're not trying to do the same thing they're not trying to tell the same like and we and percy is a demigod so and odysseus is not so i guess i can give him a pass
00:35:57
Speaker
Like we like I understand I'm not trying to compare the Odyssey to Percy Jackson like in a genuine way. It's just funny. It's just funny to me. I did like Charlize Theron as Calypso but I do wish they gave us a little bit more of the you know of that book story of who she is and their relationship.
00:36:20
Speaker
But yeah, that's just not the story he wanted to tell. And he really wanted to, he wanted Odysseus to be a good guy. Although there were some point points in the movie. I'm like, man, this guy is a real a-hole. I feel, I feel like in the least Greek myth, her Island is supposed to be more like this paradise, but it felt like they were just a shipwrecked people on a little desert Island. And so this is literally Davy Jones locker.
00:36:46
Speaker
This is literally Davy Jones locker. Like why? Yeah. it And i I thought the so too, I thought it was supposed to be like a paradise because part of it is like, yeah, she traps you, but like, you're also not supposed to want to leave. And that's part of the environment is that it's beautiful and it's lush and you're always well fed. And it's, you know, you don't, why would I ever want to leave this place? And plus also a beautiful woman and drugs and blah, blah, blah, blah. But like, that was where my sandbar.
00:37:14
Speaker
I mean, Charlize Theron is beautiful, but I was almost surprised they didn't choose someone younger and a little more of the, i don't know, ah ah even more of the goddess looking woman at that time. mean, I think that Charlize Theron is getting older at this point. She's been around do acting for a long time. And, you know, that was great for early the way he laid out a lot of the adults in this. But I felt like she could have been younger because she's supposed to be a goddess and supposed to look eternally youth. So, yeah.
00:37:41
Speaker
Well, and especially because was going to say like maybe they did it because like he's supposed to have been sleeping with her. And so if she looks too young, then it's very, very uncomfortable. could have been problematic. But like they took that part out of it. did. But they took that part out. So then like your point stands, like if you're going to take away the sexual nature of their relationship, then why can't she be a younger, immortal woman? Yeah.
00:38:05
Speaker
Well, I want to watch it again and see if there's any, like, implications. Like, they don't spill it out, but I wonder if there's any, like, hints towards their relationship that they, you know, would, like you said, make sense that it's an older actress. um But all I'm saying is I would stay on an island with Charlize Theron, okay? Sure. Yeah, know that's a given. But the gods usually appear as ah as youthful, never aging characters in most things. But in media, like individual media that we've had, like when have they ever been young? That's just true. Even in Percy Jackson, they're not like, this is you know, Zeus is always older. Like the big three, they're always older. That's true, they did do that. Yeah.
00:38:46
Speaker
You would think that they would appear younger, but Lin-Manuel Miranda. Yeah. That's my Hermes. Hermes is supposed to be here. you can You mean to tell me you couldn't get Lin-Manuel Miranda in here for like a five second cameo as Hermes talking to Athena? Be so serious. Rapping.
00:39:04
Speaker
Joking. i'm so joking you guys she did you didn't care for the his appearance in uh percy right it's grown it's definitely grown on me um because well because the only time i had ever seen him act was in hamilton which theater stage acting is so different from movie and tv acting so i like i was really weirded out at first but it's definitely the more i since i've re-watched it so much for for the podcast like it's grown on me so Our next character actually does not appear in Homer's The Odyssey, but he does originate from Virgil's The Aenid, which is an aromic epic written centuries after The Odyssey.
00:39:44
Speaker
So someone wrote some fan fiction. Right. And in that story, there is a character named Sinan that double crosses the Greek warrior who allowed himself to be captured um and tricked the Trojan soldiers. So he kind of, Nolan, took that character from this future story and you know added it to his film. um And so ah that character Sinan is played by Elliot Page.
00:40:10
Speaker
I wasn't sure at first it was fine. Uh, it wasn't a character i really cared about, but the Hades time and the conversation there made that kind of made that character and kind of brought it back around with the way. And then you, when you bring it back to that child who was forced into the war because, Robert Pattinson's character didn't want to go to war. It was, it felt very political too, of, you know, people who dodged the draft and, uh, things like that. Um, but, and like being rich and being able to pass that off on to your servants to go to war instead of you. And that all brought the character together. i could have been anybody. It was fine. There was Elliot Page. But definitely that Hades time really sold that one for me.
00:40:50
Speaker
Exactly. i agree. Yeah, I agree with you too, Chris. Like it could have been literally anybody in this role. Like that part, I was like, whatever. But I actually did like the inclusion of this character again, like showing us more of who Antinous is and has always been like he's always a snivelly prick coward person from childhood to now to adulthood preying on. Oh, and I did not include this actor, but can we just praise the casting for young Antinous? Because like he looks like a young Robert Pattinson. Yeah,

Impact of Character Changes and Loyalty

00:41:25
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absolutely. Wow. Yeah, yeah.
00:41:27
Speaker
Casting director, well done. Yes. For that. um Yeah, so I like the inclusion of the character. i like how, you know, again, with the character of Odysseus being a war veteran and focusing on that more in the PTSD, like somebody has to be the guy left out of the horse. to convince the Trojans to take it into troy And so somebody has to be the sacrifice and it has to be believable. And so like, I, I, and adding that to that guilt that Odysseus is carrying of his actions at Troy. And I don't, you know, the, the, um, thought process that he was given in this film of like, I don't deserve to go home because of what I have done. And like that extra layer, I think worked really well given the scope of this film.
00:42:15
Speaker
So much for don't kill the messenger though. That probably came after this. Cause they were like, oh I should have done that. I kind of ah back. This is a kind of a callback to what was that we said earlier, but um I kind of thought it was funny that the golden rule was basically the same thing as Zeus's law, of you know, treat others. Hey, you want to be treated? They made a comment at one point. I was like, okay, I guess that would be golden. you're lightning. i don't know. yeah like That's a funny way to bring that around.
00:42:41
Speaker
Speaking of antinuous Robert Pattinson. He killed it. That's my Edward Cullen. He killed it. He did ah play that character well. I mean, you're supposed to hate him. you're supposed He's supposed to be the character that is the suitor thinks he is deserves this. And so he thinks he can sneak in here, take the throne, and take over. And so it requires that extra yeah that extra um level of someone you can really dig into. And so I think he performed that, that someone you can hate really well. and that's what my wife said too. She thought he yeah really pulled that role off of, I hate him, but I know that's what I'm supposed to do.
00:43:24
Speaker
Yeah, he was one that I wouldn't change the casting. i would keep him. He really, from the first moment we saw him, I was like, oh yeah, this is a smarmy mother trucker. I don't like him.
00:43:37
Speaker
Yeah, agreed. And um I didn't include her in the list, but the little girlfriend um that was a maid in the house was played by Mia Goth. Yeah. yeah She did great. lots of Lots of interesting conversation happening around the housemaids because, again, in the story, you get to hear like more of their names and what they are doing. And a lot of them are sleeping with the suitors. And there's a lot of conversation about, like okay, well, were they choosing to sleep with the suitors or were the suitors forcing them sleep? You know, because they were already invading the house and taking whatever they wanted, like food and space and resource wise, why not take advantage of the women too? And so I thought that was interesting, an interesting choice for Christopher Nolan to have her be like... very very willing to help Intinuous and like choosing to be loyal to him and tell secrets from Penelope and like she like this is to me at least it did not read as a woman who was victimized and felt like she had to do these things to survive this felt like she wanted to to support him and like and get him where he wanted to be Well, and I guess you can see that as a motivation of like, if if one of these men has to be the new master of the house, or, you know, if we're going to have a new king, I better get in, you know, his good graces now and with whatever I can do sleeping with him ah telling him secrets, helping him achieve that. So he looks on me favorably later. Yeah, for sure.
00:45:12
Speaker
But there was definitely less of the maids and stuff being a part of the story, especially at the end where like in the book, they go through and purge a lot of the maids and kill off a ton of them that were not loyal. And I mean, there's there's so much killing in the book at the end there.
00:45:26
Speaker
Which again, like I get why they took it out because like Odysseus is supposed to be the hero and the hero doesn't kill the innoc innocents, right? Even though like, which like I wouldn't call any of those people innocent because they turned on him and like betrayed him, but also like,
00:45:42
Speaker
Most of the people who worked in his palace, they're literally slaves. So like what are they supposed to do realistically? And he kills them anyway. so it's like but that like And that is like historical accuracy of like at the time, you are a slave and I am your master. And even though I'm not here, you should still be loyal to me. And if you're not, I'm going to kill you for it. like That's real stuff that happened in ancient Greece versus tailoring that to a modern audience. like okay well you know you me a goth should die because you took robert pattinson's side but like everybody else will it's fine don't worry and and and penelope closing her out of the door and forcing her in with all of them to to be a part of the slaughter was like okay that's that's fun that that's that's nice that she got that little bit of you should be down there with the ones you belong with yeah exactly yeah just just a little bit more
00:46:33
Speaker
Okay, moving on to another city, we are going to meet, okay, and I might butcher this word. Menelaus. Menelaus. Menelaus. Oh my god. Okay, at least I could say to Lemicus. Menelaus, played by Jon Bernthal. And this is another one. and this is Agamemnon's brother.
00:46:55
Speaker
This is another conversation Jordan and I had where it's like, this is just Jon Bernthal being Jon Bernthal. And bless his heart, I love Jon Bernthal. I know. It was just him. But he is just always a grumpy guy. But his conversation with Tom Holland's character was so good in the, like, just, you know, him telling him the story and ah the, you know, the moments between them where he makes Telemachus cry with, you know, just, you your father was a good man and we fought, we fought a lot, we did a lot together and he was one of the smartest men I know, you know It was it was it felt like an uncle or something talking about a friend and or you know ah a best a good friend from war or whatever remembering the good times. And so I was I was happy with his character, you know, and I always like seeing Jember and Thaw. So I'm happy. Oh, yeah. Always a solid performance, but just he's got that look and he's got that voice.
00:47:50
Speaker
I wonder if you could do something more with, you know, making him look a little different, making him, you know, i wonder what his, if he has that you just can't do it. Uh, if that's just all he's got, or if that's just his signature now, I kind of wonder about that sometimes.
00:48:05
Speaker
Well, that's what I was thinking. i was like, you know, not that there's a lot that's like historically accurate about this film or even like the story in general, like because it's being translated, like who knows what like the actual original text was, but like makeup and costuming wise, like you can't really do anything to make these actors not look like themselves. Like the The best we got was when they were actually fighting in Troy and they all had their helmets on. and But like, that's it. Like, as soon as you take the helmet off, it's like, oh, there's Jon Bernthal. He's back. Like, oh my, it's like ah a baby playing peekaboo. It's like, oh my gosh, like, I can't tell that it's Jon Bernthal. It's just a Greek warrior. Oh, he's back. You know? And so it's like, you there's not really a lot that can be done to like fix that problem, if you want to call it a problem, which I kind of did for a lot ah lot of these people.
00:48:58
Speaker
And his wife, Helen of Troy, and also the twin sister, played by Lupita Nyong'o. Could have been replaced. It could have been anybody. She was fine, yeah.
00:49:09
Speaker
I had no problem with her. I have no real connection to, yeah, no reason to not like her. i know there's been, you know, white supremacists online saying they didn't like that they cast a black woman in the role, but I don't care.
00:49:21
Speaker
she did fine. Yeah, I think she's a beautiful woman, and she it's fine for her to be Helen Troy. Okay. Absolutely. yeah Yeah. It's a small role, really. Right. Just not much for her to do.
00:49:34
Speaker
Yeah. And so, again, like it and especially like because of the people like being racist about her, like. I couldn't ignore the fact that, like, it's Lupita Nyong'o, you know? So it's, like Well, and that's what I was saying earlier. With all of the drama that we've had about this casting, like, people didn't like Zendaya. People didn't like Lubita. People didn't like oh, Elliot Page. and Like, so there was just so much drama. And, like, that all started after everybody was, like, whoa, he's casting all these famous people. So, like, it was all of that drama and then it was all of this, like
00:50:09
Speaker
yeah controversy drama. yeah to like it it is ah watching the movie. It's hard to like forget all that. We spent too much time listening to the news of all the people. Yeah. All the conversations. So we already, yeah, couldn't but couldn't disappear into it as much.
00:50:25
Speaker
Yeah. Well, and so again, like all that being said, it didn't matter who played Helen of Troy because she was on screen for 0.3 seconds. There's actually I a meme.
00:50:37
Speaker
and I think it was those three characters. And it was like their screen time. And it was like, you guys were fighting so much about this much screen time. Yeah. So like, I ah don't care.
00:50:52
Speaker
Cersei was played by Samantha Morton. she crushed it she scared the heck out of me i was like oh my god i think it was mostly scary because again like i already kind of said like i thought it was going to be like a puff of smoke and they would transform into pigs not like oh the body ceramics like throw like more like her shaping them i was not prepared for that and like but she was scary like watching them like oh you guys are really hungry aren't you like she killed it. i was, I believed that she was ah a witch and that she meant, she meant everybody harm. And I really liked Odysseus actually getting to show his intelligence and his strategy and like defeat, like outsmarting her, not really defeating her if it wasn't combat, but like outsmarting her and getting him and his men out of that situation and getting her to tell him
00:51:45
Speaker
like the truth like i i liked her performance a lot she can stay and another woman that uh sorry um odysseus sleeps with throughout the story because they spent like a year on that island and he spends the time with her in her bed and so yeah yeah yeah just another side note they didn't include but yeah um One thing that I liked about this scene is that his f his team had just been like, no, you're staying at the boat. Like, we don't trust you. And he's like, this is this a mutiny? And he's like, it depends on how you react to this. And then he saves them. And he's like, bitches, you need me.
00:52:21
Speaker
I'm literally him. I'm Odysseus. I'm your general for a reason. Like, yeah, I um i make bad choices. I make mistakes. I do stuff I shouldn't. But like, there's a reason I'm in charge. So you should probably just listen to me. The cockiness is worthy. Yes.
00:52:38
Speaker
Okay. um Tiresias is the blind prophet in Hades um played by James Ramar.
00:52:51
Speaker
Just on screen for two minutes, right? so Yeah. It's like, let me remember. Good job. It definitely seemed like someone in Hades talking to and give it a prophecy. So i I'm good with it I really like that scene, the set and the costuming. And yeah yeah, that was a really cool set piece. um But yeah, like the actor, like, especially that actor where like, hey, I've been complaining that like the faces are so recognizable, but like this person like had their eyes covered, you couldn't see his face. So like, it could have been anybody, but like, good for you, James Ramar.
00:53:28
Speaker
Emeus played by John Lugazamo he was great thought he was great i I really liked him i liked the thorough line of him like being a part of like a slave that's like part of the family at the same time like from when Odysseus was young and like with Argos the dog and like you know before Telemachus was even born and then him training Telemachus and like being a part of his life like I liked that thorough line that they gave him because that character like doesn't really show up until Odysseus gets back to Ithaca at the end of the story, right? Or like he kind of talks to Telemachus a little bit, but he doesn't have that much to do. He's a really great character in the book. So that was, yeah yeah, we got a good performance out of that character, even if it was a smaller part than the book.
00:54:15
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. I liked it a lot. And I liked... we're not talking about the actor who played like the cow herd, like the other slave who like was on Intinous' side, but I liked that foil that they had for each other. Cause it was in the book, or at least in my translation, it was the pig herd and the cow herd together that supported Odysseus. And that's when they made them like on opposite sides. And so I kind of liked having that like antithesis to each other and like,
00:54:46
Speaker
the like them also battling like we're loyal to Odysseus we're not loyal to Odysseus and like that that part of it as well I liked having i like that change a little bit
00:54:59
Speaker
and then another really small role but I included her because of plot points in the next episode is Euryalisia played by Kate Fugle she is the the old the older housemaid that recognizes Odysseus at the end I liked the through line of, you know, we got the, the injury at the very beginning we saw. And so she, you know, we were able to, um, you know, how big of a scar do you want? And then that became, it comes the way she notices him and trusts him to say, okay, I won't say anything yet.
00:55:29
Speaker
Um, so I, I liked that they included it and she was fine. That was, you know, not a big enough part to me to care who was in the role, but I think she performed it fine. Yep.
00:55:39
Speaker
Yep. That was one of the things that I was like pleasantly surprised that they kept in because it would have been so easy to cut it for time or for whatever other reasons you could come up with. And so I like that they kept it and kept her in there.
00:55:54
Speaker
um There was a lot of other roles. His like first mate, um you know, people. um other people in his army that we, you know, there's just, it was a large cast. So we're not going to get to everybody, but is there anybody else that stood out to you or listeners? If there's anybody you want us to recognize, please write in.
00:56:17
Speaker
But Chris and Jordan, is there anybody else you want to recognize tonight? That was a lot of people already. I don't know if my brain can remember even how many other people there were. yeah. We kind of talked about Calypso's Island being disappointing.

Practical Effects and Mythical Creatures

00:56:31
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And we talked about the scene in Hades being really cool. The rest of it, like most of it is like on the water, like in the ocean, which I love that they did it practical. Like you could kind of, you could tell, you could feel that it was like at least mostly real. Like I'm sure they didn't put Matt Damon on a raft in the middle of a storm in the Mediterranean. But like other than that, like the other scenes- That one gave Castaway vibes for sure. Yeah, I did see a real though that Nolan was talking about filming one of the scenes on the boat, like the actual ship.
00:57:07
Speaker
um And it's the we it's we're behind Matt Damon looking at the ocean on the boat and like you see the dolphins and that that's real like those were real. They weren't playing. They saw they were just right. They want to be the fit in the film. Yeah. Right, and so they was really cool that they, you know, and like when I was watching, I saw that reel before the movie and I saw it in the movie and I'm like, oh, that's so cool. There it is. yeah Yeah, no, I saw that reel too and I thought that was pretty cool. I mentioned it to Rachel as we were watching. I was like, there's the dolphins that were not supposed to be there. They just showed up.
00:57:39
Speaker
I thought the design of the Cyclops was weird. Oh, I loved it actually. It was another one of those body horror things. And so I was like, I think this is fun. Yeah. I think it was weird because I wasn't expecting his eye to be vertical. But that's what I like it. It's almost like it's deformity as opposed to like a mythical creature. Like so like again, just bringing it into like a grounded world.
00:58:03
Speaker
I've been trying to figure out the best way for a cycloc's face to look in that way because it is always off-putting and like no matter how you put the eye on the face. So yeah to make it, yeah, look like his eyes literally just got messed up when he got put in until only one works up top. It it it worked for me. And then, yeah, his skin being the way it was and the whole thing. I was like, all right, I can i can get behind this.
00:58:23
Speaker
It was very Gollum-like. Yeah. Yeah. um Yeah, I like that. whirlpool and the other monster. Scylla and Charybdis. What did you think of that, Jordan? I kind of wanted to get your thoughts on that one. I thought Charybdis should have been bigger.
00:58:41
Speaker
Like the whirlpool felt very small and like, but't just go around it. Like, you know, and like, I know, like the that's what Percy said, too, but you're not allowed to. Well, so but like in in Percy and Percy Jackson, they explained that like you it's a trial you have to go through. And so they will just move in front of you like magically. And so like, I understand, like, I guess maybe that could have been the case here, too, where like, you know, we have it's been.
00:59:07
Speaker
again, you take the gods and like the magic out of the story. And so then it's like, well, it's just a whirlpool and a monster instead of like a trial that you you know you Odysseus have to choose. Do you all want to die or are you willing to sacrifice more of your men? And like making like that, like them not being able to move and like block the path.
00:59:30
Speaker
I was like, it's not that big, bro. Like, just go around it the other side, like swing wide and like skip this step, basically. But I mean, Scylla was Scylla. She's this excited monster. I kind of liked how she had like a little cave mouth. yeah like It was like an inside out octopus thing. like she had like she The tentacles came out of the beak mouth thing. I kind of liked that. I thought that was cool. um But yeah, I feel like the whirlpool should have been bigger.
01:00:00
Speaker
But that's just like, if you're going to have to CGI it, right? There's no way not to. So like then just go big with it. But yeah. Yeah, I agree. Okay. Well, everybody, thank you for joining us for the first episode of our Odyssey coverage. We'll be back next week to discuss the plot points.
01:00:25
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01:00:40
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Until next time, keep reading, keep watching, and we'll see you next week.