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Streamer Spotlight: Glitterkitty1

S2 E39 · Chatsunami
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In this episode, Satsunami talks to Twitch streamer and musician glitterkitty1.

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Introduction and Guest Welcome

00:00:05
Speaker
Welcome to Chad Tsunami. Hello everybody and welcome to another episode of Chad Tsunami. I'm Sad Tsunami and joining me for another very special streamer spotlight is none other than the one and only Australian streamer Glitter Kitty. Glitter, welcome to the show.
00:00:33
Speaker
Hi, thank you so, so much for having me. Honestly, it's just so great and so heartwarming that you've actually chosen to have me on this podcast, so thank you. Oh, no problem. Thank you for coming on, because as you know, time differences are just other than worse, aren't they? Oh, absolutely. It's just so funny knowing that we're literally on almost like the opposite side of the day, so you're in your evening. I'm in my morning. Sometimes I log on to Twitch to try and catch your streams, and you've literally just finished.

Weather and Pandemic Impacts

00:01:01
Speaker
I'm thinking, no!
00:01:02
Speaker
that is the worst actually because well then again I remember since the pandemic I've been like doing a lot more working from home and every so often I'll get a notification and it'll be like oh little kitties going online and I'm like oh that'll fill up on the bird before my first meeting so yeah like yes six o'clock in the morning I'm ready to go
00:01:23
Speaker
I got my coffee in one night, just like, woo, let's go. But how are you doing anyway? I'm doing fantastic. Absolutely fantastic. I mean, life is crazy busy at the moment. There's never a dull moment, I think outside in the real world. But yeah, we're doing really, really great here. We've had literally, I think three months of nonstop rain. So I'm sure you've probably seen Sydney flooding like crazy. And there's just been all these news reports of floods everywhere.
00:01:49
Speaker
It's not normal weather for us, so we're kind of just like, cooped up inside trying to stay dry. But then at the same time we've just had two years of the pandemic like the rest of the world, so it kind of gets a little bit older after a while just being at home, but also very cozy too.
00:02:04
Speaker
There has been a hate to a couple of years, I have to say. And I'm totally on board with you there. Yeah, like, just the whole situation and the way that the world is at the moment, it feels very, very turbulent. But I think, yeah, it's just gonna be so great when all the borders start opening back up and you're seeing pictures of people traveling the world. And I mean, a lot of that started happening again, but you can still feel very isolated not having traveled anywhere for the last two years. You know, just staying at home and, you know, being a bit of a homebody.
00:02:34
Speaker
I honestly can't remember the last time I travelled outside of the country. Probably would have been 2019, I think. I don't know, but I always remember, and yeah, this is just the definition of irony, but I thought at the beginning of 2020, I thought, right, 2020's gonna be the year I get my life turned

Streamers and Community Building

00:02:51
Speaker
around, you know? I'm gonna exercise, I'm gonna go travelling, I'm gonna finally master those languages and everything, and then boom, lockdown. And I'm like, well, shit, this isn't how I plan things.
00:03:02
Speaker
I know. And it's how crazy is it being the 20s again? I was thinking, oh, you know, it's the roaring 20s again, because I'm very much like a history fanatic. I love different 20th century decades and fashion and stuff like that. And I was very much like, yes, the roaring 20s is back.
00:03:17
Speaker
And so everyone's going to be going out and partying and getting amongst it and it's going to be very much a blast from the past in a way. But then it was a blast from the past. I mean, look, if you think a hundred years ago, we had the Spanish flu and now coronavirus is just wreaking havoc around the whole world. It's crazy.
00:03:33
Speaker
I mean, if history is one thing, it is consistent. I know. Not in a good way. Definitely not in a good way. And yeah, just the whole fact that it feels kind of like everything repeats itself at a very specific point in time.
00:03:48
Speaker
It's kind of scary in a way, but at the same time, we're in a completely different time. I mean, everyone's connected and everyone knows what's going on in the world and, you know, everyone can still keep in touch with each other. So it's very different compared to, you know, back in the day when people were writing letters and communication and technology has just evolved so far that we've been able to survive through a kind of pandemic like this because we have the resources in order to do so.
00:04:13
Speaker
You're totally right though. It is amazing how during the pandemic, obviously, whenever I bring up the pandemic, I always wonder how people listening in the future are going to like think of this, to be like, is the pandemic over by then? Is it still going? Yeah, absolutely. Because it is, it's like, whenever you talk about the pandemic, it's kind of just really common place, isn't it? It's like you say, oh, the pandemic.
00:04:37
Speaker
and you know everybody knows oh the 2020 pandemic. Maybe in the future hopefully fingers crossed it will be relatively gone or diminish somewhat but it is amazing that during that time people have come together and they've started to kind of explore new interests, new hobbies kind of things to interact with other people in a kind of digital space and I'm quite curious because you and I of course we both met on Twitch.
00:05:05
Speaker
I want to say, was it one of Miss Nova's streams we met? I believe it was actually, yeah, because I know that you met Momo as well. Momo was actually one of my in real life best friends, Momo Creampuff on Twitch. I'm pretty sure we did meet through Miss Nova, and she was
00:05:24
Speaker
I think she started streaming around the same time that I did because we I think we both started streaming around the time that the pandemic started. I think it would have been about June 2020 and I think in Australia we went into lockdown around March 2020. So there was like a few months give or take of setting up and thinking
00:05:41
Speaker
I wonder if I should get into streaming, you know? I've got my hand in so many different jars, but I might just give streaming a go. So yeah, I think that was definitely around the time that everyone kind of came together and we all met as like this big community, which I think was really, really special. I think this is quite a few familiar names that you might know as well, like Nexus, Nexus Nightfall.
00:05:59
Speaker
She's, I think she's now changed her name to Nixxis. There's a few others that I think kind of came around at that time, Chad, Chad music as well. So everyone sort of came banded together in like

Glitter Kitty's Streaming Journey

00:06:09
Speaker
this kind of group. And it was just like, it was just such a nice time. It just, you kind of felt very connected whilst at the same time, everyone's very separated in isolation. So it was just a really, really nice time.
00:06:20
Speaker
Before you got into Twitch streaming, so you were saying there that, oh, you were thinking about diving into it. What was it about Twitch that kind of attracted you to start streaming? Well, it's quite a funny one, really. I was looking at getting back into gaming because I'd had a bit of like a gaming hiatus. I mean, I was playing a lot of different games back in like 2016, 2017, when I moved to Australia. So my story, I've got a bit of a backstory. I moved, I was born in the UK and then I moved to New Zealand in 2002 when I was
00:06:50
Speaker
eight years old, a little bit of an eight years old. And then I moved to Australia in 2017 and after I moved, I was really into my conventions because there's so many more like cosplay conventions here in Australia. So I was very much into my comics, my conventions, my gaming. So I got really into gaming when I first moved over. And then I went on a hiatus. I was I got so busy with work and real life stuff. And then when the pandemic hit, it was like, you know, you've got all this time to just discover new things and play some new games. And I think
00:07:19
Speaker
I saw a lot of friends of mine were getting into streaming and I was firstly, I didn't really understand it. I was thinking, wow, I thought like, I thought live streaming was like, you know, for famous people, musicians and stuff like that. And I didn't realize that there was just this massive community of streamers on Twitch.
00:07:35
Speaker
And so I started watching different people and thinking, oh, this is really cool and it's a really good way to interact when you are stuck at home in isolation. It's a really great way to meet people and to also give people some place to go to connect when they're at home. Yeah, I think it kind of built from there. I started looking at PCs because I'm currently recording on an iMac. An iMac.
00:07:57
Speaker
late 2015 iMacs they can't stream at all like the graphics card is just so weak literally the moment I hit record I got the encoder overload message and I'm thinking oh great okay so I need to go and get another machine so we went out and we got one built yeah and it's a bit of it's a monster of a thing yeah I mean I just got into streaming and and just sort of dived into it and I've and I found it was more like it really felt natural for me because I've always been
00:08:23
Speaker
into my music and performing. So it was very natural for me to chat and interact with people. Whereas I know for some people going into streaming for the first time might have a little bit of stage fright or might feel quite nervous because it's just such a new venture. And how have you found Twitch streaming from when you started to now?
00:08:43
Speaker
I think when I first started, I mean, when I first started, I think I had like this sort of persona, I'd say. So the name Glitter Kitty kind of came from, I guess like anime or like kawaii inspired Japanese characters. I went to Japan in 2018, so I kind of got like a little bit of inspiration from there and just creating this persona for stream. When I first started, I really felt like I went quite deep into it. I started off with, you know, promo-ing and
00:09:12
Speaker
you know all these different things whereas I find that a lot of people who start streaming they kind of just ease into it and it feels a bit more natural than just going into it and coming up with all these links and all these sub perks and I just literally went crazy I just started researching other streamers and what they're doing and I kind of got quite deep into it at the beginning and I felt like I was maybe overdoing it a little bit thinking oh you know
00:09:35
Speaker
sub-pics and all this other stuff. And now for me, whenever I jump on stream, it's more of a natural thing. It's more just sitting down, catching up with everyone, gaming, with the community that I have grown over time. But I'm, you know, I'm not stressing about it. I'm not putting like heaps and heaps as effort into it, if that makes sense. But in a good way.
00:09:55
Speaker
would you say that's something that new streamers fall into you know like when people start off and they see people with the amazing overlays and as you said the rewards and the bells and whistles literally sometimes yeah would you say that's something a lot of new streamers do when they first get into twitch
00:10:13
Speaker
Yeah, absolutely, and that's exactly what I did. I was like, I need to get the best overlay and make sure all my PC specs are up and all my commands and everything. I feel like you just sort of ease into it. I think it's a lot better to just ease into these things and go, okay, I'm going to start with my overlay.
00:10:30
Speaker
And then I'm going to start building out my commands and look at emotes down the line, rather than just bringing all this stuff together and just sort of getting into a bit of a scatterbrain with it all. And I find, yes, a lot of streamers do. They probably take a lot of their inspiration, which is how I did it. They take a lot of their inspiration from
00:10:48
Speaker
established streamers. Obviously they get the idea and they say, oh, this is what I've got to do to start streaming. But I think my best advice for anyone starting out is to really just ease into it and start getting comfortable with, you know, being on camera and communicating with people. That's the best way.
00:11:04
Speaker
Rather than, like I said, just scatterbraining everything and being like, right, I've got to do this. We've got to have the best of this. Because sometimes people don't come to your stream for like the big fancy animated overlay or the emotes. Sometimes people come to your stream just to see you, just to talk to you. Honestly, I couldn't have said it better myself.
00:11:23
Speaker
But yeah, it's a big journey and I find that over time you really do find your feet and you do get more comfortable. But yeah, it's incredible. It's such a great thing that I got into it at the time that I did because as I've probably mentioned to you many times before, there's just so much going on outside in the real world for me. So it was just such an awesome opportunity to be able to do it whilst we were in the pandemic. It just felt like a great time to start connecting and building a community from that point on.

Social Media and Mental Health

00:11:53
Speaker
obviously you were saying there that you know it is like a fantastic way to like interact with other people but were there any challenges you found along the way either when you started out or kind of throughout your streaming journey? Well I think
00:12:08
Speaker
And maybe this is one that you can relate to as well. I think that it's especially challenging building a community and even building like a career in entertainment when you struggle from, you know, either physical illnesses or, you know, issues with mental health. I think that's a really, really big one. But it's also like, for me personally, I struggle with anxiety. So I do get a lot of stage fright at the best of times.
00:12:32
Speaker
So coming into streaming was a little bit nerve-wracking for me, but it also felt very natural talking to people and interacting and just being myself. I think that was the great thing about streaming was just I had the opportunity to just be myself.
00:12:48
Speaker
and just be silly and joke, because that's naturally who I am. But then at the same time, when you do struggle with anxiety, in the back of your mind you're always like, did I just mess up that? Did I just say something wrong then? Or am I giving off bad vibes? So there's always a voice in the back of your head that's very loud, and I think you've got to get to a point where you just kind of work with it, if that makes sense. But yeah, I think mental health and physical health can really, really hold you back from performing at your best.
00:13:15
Speaker
and I will say from first-hand experience it's something that I really do struggle with and something that I hope can I can use to sort of build my community but also help other people struggling resonate. I think it is like a great thing to normalize if that makes sense to be able to say to people if they are trying to you know stream or do anything as you said and like
00:13:39
Speaker
an entertainment capacity, or in any capacity in a way, because this was something you and I were talking about just before we started this recording tonight, that all you really see in social media, and there was something new raised that all you kind of see in social media is the positives and the kind of highlights, especially for successful Twitch streamers, because you'll always say, oh look at me get this W in Warzone, or oh look at this funny epic fail with all of these people who love me and my content, and that's
00:14:08
Speaker
That could be a very daunting thing, can't it? Oh, absolutely. Like it is very confronting. I mean, don't get me wrong. It's amazing to see people thriving and people who started out a year ago and now have this amazing community of people and they've built something that's lasting and strong and just incredible. But at the same time, for many people who are struggling, who feel like they can't talk about these things because if they do, everyone's going to kind of back away. You know, everyone wants to be there for the good times.
00:14:36
Speaker
And you'll hear it a lot in even everyday life. You've got your friends, right? And you've got your group of friends who are there with you through and through. But then you've also got the good times friends that are just kind of there that they want to see all your wins and they want to see your highlight reel. They don't want to see your struggles.
00:14:52
Speaker
because maybe they can't deal with your struggles, maybe it's hard for them to sort of process what you're going through because maybe they can't relate to it. But I honestly think that social media is a great platform for people to be real and to be human and to not filter out everything. And if that's what's going on, people filter out the bad stuff.
00:15:11
Speaker
Or they even filter themselves, and they put a completely different spin on who they are as a person. And that's something that's quite detrimental, especially to generations going forward, that they have to be something that they're not, and that they can't share how they're feeling. Because if they do, everyone's just going to run for the hills, you know? No one really wants to hear what they're going through, because it's not a highlight reel.
00:15:34
Speaker
it kind of leads into that negative mindset, which it sounds bad to say. You know the way, as you said, people are kind of modelling themselves. If they're new to a particular industry or things, they model themselves off of the successful ones and when they're not getting the same results as quickly. And this is a story that I always bring up, so apologies if I sound like a broken record.
00:15:59
Speaker
There was this story that I read on the BBC about two people who successfully took off on Twitch, like one of them played Warzone and the other one
00:16:09
Speaker
remember I think the other one was a variety streamer and the article was kind of praising them about how oh look at how wonderful they are that they've made this entire job they've quit their day job they're getting thousands and all of this and I can totally see how that would intimidate or maybe intimidate too strong a word but how it would be quite daunting to kind of look at these two random strangers who you know I'm not saying they didn't work for it but maybe by chance they've like got
00:16:38
Speaker
successful because that is the thing about Twitch,

Community and Authentic Connections

00:16:41
Speaker
isn't it? It can be so random. It's really a kind of sense of the right place, the right time, because I mean if I wasn't in the right place, right time, I wouldn't have met as many amazing streamers as like yourself or Momo, or it is honestly just so random.
00:16:57
Speaker
but I think people trying to find that, I don't want to say easy way, but do you know what I mean? Like a kind of one way to become successful quick and it just doesn't happen in that capacity, does it? No, I mean it definitely doesn't work that way and I think put it this way, everyone is trying to find their place in the world. A place that they fit in, a place where they feel like they belong and they want to be, you know,
00:17:22
Speaker
They want to be loved. And I mean, it's just as simple as that sometimes. You want to be in a place where you have friends that resonate with you. You have friends that share the same interests. And I think that's what's so wonderful about the gaming community and even like just anime, convention, comic book.
00:17:37
Speaker
community is just everyone has the same interests and everyone is so wholesome and friendly and lovely and one thing you might know about certain industries like I think even the film industry that you hear stories about people stepping on other people in order to get to where they want to be or even I think it's present in the streaming community here and there you do get the odd person that it's hard to tell whether or not they're you know they're a friend or or maybe they just want to connect
00:18:03
Speaker
for the sake of connecting and networking and getting themselves out there and getting getting themselves rich quick you know the get rich quick scheme or whatever they call it honestly i look at it as i've always i mean even as a child i really struggle to fit in at school and i very much felt like the outcast and very much the weird kid that loved so many different things but could never really vibe with any of the other kids so for me i've always wanted to find my place in the world and i think
00:18:31
Speaker
through music and through streaming and gaming and chatting and just being silly and having a good time that's been my place and what I want to encourage other people to do is to find that place and to have a community where people say oh those guys are awesome those guys are so welcoming so friendly I feel so great being around them that's where I want to be rather than all these different clicks of people and people who are just trying to get successful quick so that's that's kind of what it means to me and sorry if that sounded a little bit
00:19:01
Speaker
Rambly but it's yeah. No not at all. No I mean I'm just thinking back to especially your community on Twitch because honestly like whenever I go into your streams it's always like a chilled out environment. The reason I kind of hesitated there was because I was thinking it's a chilled environment but then I remember you played day by day like
00:19:24
Speaker
So it's like, you hear the screaming in the background and it's like, oh, hi there. And you're like, hi. You might want to get yourself off that hook. I know. Oh my gosh. And yeah, and I think when the energy is quite chaotic, I mean, I know some streamers that can literally deal with the chaotic energy. And when things sort of step up a bit, I'm like, whoa, what is happening? I'm very up and down. Like I'm, I personally,
00:19:48
Speaker
I am very chill, I am very down to earth and very chill, but I definitely love, I love the chaotic and high energy moments, like that's the great thing. Yeah, I mean, most people in my community, when they're dropping in to play games, yeah, they do just want to chill and hang out, but you know, we have our moments where we're all just like screaming and laughing and apparently my neighbors hear me screaming.
00:20:09
Speaker
I get texts from my partner saying, um, I'm not sure what our neighbors think or what's going on next door. And she'd stick a, maybe a sign on the front door saying I'm streaming. So if I'm screaming, you know why I just find it's, it's really awesome. And I do think I vibe better in a more of a chill environment for sure. Nowadays, I think when I was a bit younger, I was very high energy, but nowadays I am sort of mellowing out a lot more. And I do vibe with that sort of relaxation kind of how do you, how do you put it?
00:20:37
Speaker
For better words, yeah, I just resonate a bit better with, you know, just relaxing, playing wholesome games, chatting, having fun. But the high energy stuff is super awesome. It's all in moderation for me. And there are just so many awesome streamers that if I ever want to like be in a high energy environment, I'm like, okay, I'm gonna go to their stream because I know right now they're gonna be screaming and running through like, you know, playing some crazy horror game or definitely I'm more of a mellow kind of, yeah, leveled out streamer, I think.
00:21:07
Speaker
Oh no, I know exactly what you mean. I mean, your streams are always very... I think the cool kids refer to it as like comfy streams. Yeah, the cozy streams, absolutely. Like cozy streams, yeah. Where it is just like you can pop in and you know, you just, you're like, you can chat away and talk to other people in the community and things. It's just such like a nice kind of vibe that goes on. And I think that is one of the really special things about Twitch, the fact that
00:21:37
Speaker
There is really like a streamer for everyone. As you said, you can have that chaotic streamer, you can have the kind of chilled out one, you can have the challenge run ones, you can have like
00:21:47
Speaker
any type under the sun. It is absolutely fantastic. For the most part would you say that the people you've met on Twitch for the most part has just kind of come about randomly? Oh absolutely, I mean it's so cool because when you're streaming obviously people drop in all the time and they'll say hi how you doing and start a conversation.
00:22:08
Speaker
just out of nowhere and one thing I love because I did mention that I'm really into my history but I absolutely love different cultures. One thing I've been just desperate to do and we were just talking about it before is just start going out there and traveling again because I am just really really fascinated by other cultures and other parts of the world with so much rich history and people are very different and depending on what part of the world you're in you know.
00:22:32
Speaker
And there are just people from all over the world that drop into my stream and they'll just be like, Hey, I'm from France or Hey, I'm from China or any part of the world. And you build up this amazing community of just diversity and people who might love the same games, but are from a different part of the world and have stories or backgrounds that they want to share, or even just like I was talking to you about with mental health, like even the same challenges. So that's something I just find incredibly amazing.
00:23:01
Speaker
I mean I know we've had social media for, you know, decades now and we've had internet for decades so we've been able to stay connected. But this is a different era. You are streaming and you are live streaming and so people drop in and you can just talk to them right then and there. It's not like sending letters or adding people and chatting to people here and there is literally you are there.
00:23:22
Speaker
at that point in time, you know, you're going to get responses from them. You know, they know that you're going to respond to them. It's just, I just, I don't know what it is, but it's just mind blowing and it's super awesome. And yeah. And I think most of my community have really sort of come together over time. Um, most of the people have dropped in or they might've dropped in from another, another stream or somebody in my community that streams as well. So.
00:23:46
Speaker
It's incredible, honestly. It's just so incredible. And I'm sure you feel the same way, like how your community's grown over time. You've met so many people from different backgrounds around the world. Oh, I'm like a proud parent with my community, I have to say. Honestly goodness. Although I wouldn't consider myself as like a big streamer or a big podcaster or anything. And see if you hear like the sound of tiny violins playing in the background, just ignore them. I'll edit them out in post. Love it.
00:24:14
Speaker
But, honest to goodness, when I got into streaming, I had no idea what I was getting myself in for. I thought, okay, it's just gonna be a gaming thing, I'm just gonna play a couple of games, chat to people. And being quite a shy person in real life, you probably wouldn't tell it now you're considering I'm hosting a podcast, but it was quite nerve-wracking to begin with.
00:24:34
Speaker
But the more and more people started to gravitate towards the streams and they started getting comfy and becoming regulars. And then outside of the streams, you started talking to those people and getting ideas back and forth.
00:24:50
Speaker
It's honestly one of the best feelings ever because, as you said, there's just so many people all over the world going through similar struggles, going through the same data processes, having the same interests and things, and I feel as if this is definitely one of the best things as well, being able to be open with those people because I think it's something, and I'm curious to hear what you think about this, but there's a lot of people who, the ones who want to get rich quick, haha, sorry, that was just a
00:25:20
Speaker
Now that was just a laugh for the refers, you know?

Challenges for Female Streamers

00:25:24
Speaker
But the kind of people who say, oh, I'm going to play Cod Odey, or, okay, I don't want to bash Cod players, but you know, when they play Insert genetic game, I want to play this game, I'm going to get rich, and I'm not going to do anything. And of course, they see other streamers who have
00:25:40
Speaker
thousands of viewers or maybe hundreds of viewers and they go why am I not getting the same views and everything and they get quite angry and bitter and they start you know lashing out saying oh that person's only getting views because of XYZ but I think
00:25:56
Speaker
the kind of thing that especially news streamers with that kind of bad mindset don't understand and it's not really something that I think a lot of streamers are open about is that people who want to come to your community will gravitate towards your community. Exactly. Because I think I was saying this before we started recording but I had someone who initially seemed nice and then basically started taking the you know law and
00:26:22
Speaker
started spamming his going live link everywhere and the Discord and things. And for all the people out there who are like, oh, that person's only popular because of this or that, it's only because they've built up the relationship with their community and they've managed to attract a particular group. I have to admit, I wouldn't want a group of people who were always on edge and being like, oh, no, you have to go there, no, you have to go... being very
00:26:50
Speaker
helicopter chat as it were but sorry going back to you like what are your thoughts on that well you know i think it's just awesome that you brought that up because i mean i think it's a bit of a taboo in the streaming world or the streaming community again i think we all have levels of comparing ourselves to other people and comparing our successes to other people and i think firstly i think it's very dangerous to do such a thing because all it's ever going to do is breed those nasty sort of toxic thoughts of
00:27:20
Speaker
they're streaming and they're getting all these people, why is it not happening for me? And I had a friend of mine who said something really quite incredible. He said that jealousy reveals our desires, but a healthy level of that and making sure that whatever you're feeling inside, whatever inner conflicts you're feeling, especially when you're comparing yourself to other people,
00:27:44
Speaker
it's important to channel that into something good. Rather than channel that into, oh the world sucks and there's so much injustice in the world. And look, put it this way, when you're someone who suffers from anxiety, you do get that a lot. You do get the, why am I not succeeding in this? But then you've got to look at yourself. Why are you not succeeding? Maybe you're not working on it as, maybe you're not putting as much man hours into your community and into your music or into your creative process that maybe the next person is doing.
00:28:14
Speaker
it's also energy like what you were saying people will gravitate towards you it's also the energy that you're putting out there and if you're constantly putting out negative energy this is what I was telling you before and this is why I'm very conscious about sharing my own struggles is that you know if you're putting out in a negative energy of course people aren't really gonna vibe with you
00:28:32
Speaker
People don't really want to be around that, they want to be uplifted. And so the best thing to do, well my advice anyway, personally, is to take those inner conflicts and channel them into bettering yourself rather than thinking, oh you know, I suck and everyone's better than me.
00:28:49
Speaker
It's just literally a dangerous thought process. It's very dangerous. And if it's something that you go through very frequently, then something that I encourage you to get help with really, because that's even something that I've started exploring over the past couple of years, is therapy. And a lot of people do have that inner saboteur. Most people do.
00:29:10
Speaker
There is an inner saboteur inside of you, but there is a healthy level of your inner critic, and then there's also a really unhealthy level of that. And one thing you really don't want to do is let that destroy your life and destroy your career, and let it overtake you to the point where you are putting bad energy out into the world.
00:29:30
Speaker
I do feel very rambly when I say these things, but yeah, my point is honestly, it's an important thing to talk about, because like I said, there's always that inner comparison to other people. But just remember that we all have it, and to secondly think about how
00:29:46
Speaker
It's dangerous to constantly compare yourself to other people. And that's another, what we were talking about before, social media is just so dangerous for that kind of thing. And, you know, I even catch myself doing it. I catch myself going through and getting the classic FOMO of, oh man, I'm not doing that. That's when you've got to sort of say, hang on a second. Maybe it's time to switch off. Maybe it's time to actually go out and do something.
00:30:10
Speaker
maybe it's time to sit down and work on a song, or create, or find an outlet for those inner thoughts. Just my two cents, really, I mean. Well, first of all, I think that was perfectly summed up, definitely not rambly at all, so don't worry about that. Oh, sometimes I just, personally, I find that I struggle sometimes to gather sentences at the best of times. Like, I'll be on stream as well and I'll be like,
00:30:32
Speaker
Oh man, I'm thinking something in my head! But then it comes out and it's like word vomit, and I'm just like, okay! Try again next time!
00:30:41
Speaker
I was going to say, someone who runs a podcast, trust me, that's just my life right now. Every time I record an episode, I'm just like, okay, I've got a well thought out argument. I'm going to say it. And then when it comes out, you listen back to essentially scrambled eggs. You think, what the hell was that? You know, you want to sum up sunny side up and you get scrambled, obviously.
00:31:05
Speaker
Oh yeah absolutely yeah I know what you mean. But you're totally right though it's definitely something I don't think people draw nearly enough attention to because it is obviously one thing to be like worry about your mental health but
00:31:19
Speaker
if you're not taking active steps to guard yourself, or guard maybe is the wrong word, but to, I suppose, yeah, to safeguard yourself from A, these kind of negative thoughts, because it can be quite, I think the word we were using when we were discussing it earlier was like this kind of rabbit hole.
00:31:37
Speaker
of negativity because you start to think today was kind of a bad day but it's okay because tomorrow will pick up and then maybe something might go wrong for the next day and then the next day and the next day and then as you said you kind of start turning those thoughts and feelings onto other like creators to be like oh they're lazy
00:31:56
Speaker
they're only there because of this and that and again that whole kind of jealousy thing and then you just start to get because I mean I have to admit this is something I've always wanted to and I don't mean this and I get away to be like oh I can't wait to open up but something I've always wanted to talk about is like the idea of when
00:32:14
Speaker
I started streaming and don't get me wrong I was doing like a lot of things wrong at the time and eventually I managed to kind of turn myself around in that but for the longest time for those first couple of months it was like just my friends coming into streams and watching me and don't get me wrong like
00:32:32
Speaker
I don't mean that as a kind of diss against my friends or anything because they're amazing people, they've always been so supportive towards me but when you saw these other streamers playing the exact same games and then when I started doing the exact same things and I thought well why am I not getting the views and things and I started to get down, I started to think maybe I'm not cut out for streaming, maybe I should
00:32:57
Speaker
I think the problem with me other than the fact it was horrific marketing myself was just mainly I think the fact that I was just slipping more into that negativity and it wasn't until I started interacting with other streamers because sometimes you do get streamers who they'll come in at the right place, the right time, they'll be a successful solo act and they'll succeed in their own merit and you think fantastic.
00:33:22
Speaker
great I'm so proud of you for doing that but not everyone's going to have the same journey. I totally agree with you. I think that people need to start realizing that it's okay if you don't get the same milestones whether that be you know in life whether that be in certain daily things or especially for twitch because my god the amount of people coming in who and again I'm not saying are trying to insult them but you know the people come in acting like the next
00:33:50
Speaker
PewDiePie or Ninja and things and then getting quite frustrated and angry at other people to be like well why am I not in the next PewDiePie and it's like well you have to kind of step back take time kind of think about what you're doing and things and again like everybody's process and journey is going to be completely different.
00:34:11
Speaker
Although we might share similarities with other streamers and things, obviously we've all got different things going on and that kind of thing. That's the thing though, it's like do you find sometimes that there are some viewers that maybe they don't take into account, and obviously I'm not saying like all viewers do this, but like some viewers look at streamers as more of like a source of entertainment than they do as a human being.
00:34:37
Speaker
It's really interesting that you say that because I will give you my opinions or even my experiences firstly being a female streamer. As you probably know, a lot of female streamers, they might have their own persona or they might post certain photos that are tailored to a certain audience.
00:34:56
Speaker
So I think, yeah, I think that there are many viewers or there are many people in a community that might come to a streamer as like, yes, this is this is just my source of entertainment. You know, they might not watch TV shows or watch YouTube. They might instead go to their favorite streamer and say, you know what? I'm ready for some energy. I'm ready for some chaotic energy and just something fun. But then I think that as a female streamer, I'll be quite honest. I mean, I have been especially in the past, I've been a victim of
00:35:26
Speaker
sexual harassment, not even harassment, but people who will message me with some kind of intent of, oh, you know, she'll send me this and she'll do this and she'll, you know, and it's quite dangerous, really. I mean, we're on the internet for crying out loud. I mean, how many young girls end up on the internet and end up, you know, speaking to people who just, you know, might be slightly predatory?
00:35:49
Speaker
But yes, being a female streamer, it's definitely tough because you do in some ways, there are people who might be looking at you just to look at you, if that makes sense. And I want to try and say this in the least derogatory way, but there are a lot of
00:36:04
Speaker
female streamers who even use their beautiful, like, there are some beautiful women out there and they use their looks to help with their streaming. And, you know, I do find that, again, as a female streamer, there will be people in your community that just want to come and they just want to have a look.
00:36:21
Speaker
You know, they just want to see you, they just want to have a look at you. It's a tricky one. I mean, you think about even the film industry. I mean, everyone in the film industry has to maybe look a certain way or be a certain way and do certain things in order for entertainment. I mean, that's really what it is.
00:36:38
Speaker
but it's nice to be able to cut through all of that. I say it this way, cut through all the BS and, you know, have a personality and have a journey and a story to share. Because what I find for me is I love watching stuff just purely for entertainment. I mean, that's why I watch movies. That's why I really love Marvel movies, you know, because they're just so visually satisfying and the story is just so profound. But I follow a lot of women who they encourage
00:37:04
Speaker
that mentality of being independent and strong and fighting for, you know, your identity and your culture. I follow a lot of women who are uplifting and they encourage you to be a better version of yourself and not just a product, if that makes sense. Because you do really sometimes feel like you are just a product. And I even feel that sometimes too. I feel like, oh, if I don't just post bikini shots on Instagram or do hot tub streams, no one's really gonna tune in. No one's really gonna care.
00:37:34
Speaker
But at the same time, yeah, I just again, once again, I feel like I'm rambling a little bit. But like, yeah, it's just, I honestly think that what's really important is to cut through the BS and have that level of entertainment, have that level of, you know, I'm a product of entertainment, but also have your journey and to be able to share your journey too. So yeah.
00:37:55
Speaker
Nope, again, not rambly. 10 out of 10. Ever since I started getting into Twitch and interacting with other female streamers as well, I've honestly been so surprised. A couple of weeks ago, I was interviewing another female streamer from Switzerland called Search in the Sun.
00:38:14
Speaker
And one of the things she brought up, she thanked me after the interview. She basically said, oh, thank you for asking these kind of questions and not being sexist, but not saying like this or that. And I was like,
00:38:30
Speaker
What do you mean? She went, oh, there's some really popular podcasters that they have like this kind of, I don't know, like really, really terrible takes when it comes to female content creators and things like this. And around where she shared a couple of links with me. And I'm not gonna lie, I was actually really horrified to hear these kind of people say things like this. And I was like,
00:38:52
Speaker
is this? No, no, no, no, it's 2022. I haven't, you know, time travelled back to the past because I know that's, you know, that's low hanging fruit jokes there, but it just seems like so bizarre. Or not bizarre, but I mean, for me personally, because obviously I'm a male streamer that although I still hide behind like a V-tuber model, I've never had
00:39:13
Speaker
any kind of like harassment or anything like that and to see like all these female shimmers that are going on and then putting out their best work and everything and to get those kind of reactions and things again unfortunately it is the internet and these things are gonna suffer like i feel as if there's a whole argument of people being anonymous and they just post horrible things oh yeah yeah absolutely
00:39:40
Speaker
I feel as if that is amplified, especially on Twitch for female streamers and things like that. I honestly couldn't imagine that kind of level, because I'm not going to sit here and be like, oh yeah, totally know what you mean. It is completely different. But it is honestly really rubbish that you do in this day and age have to go through things like that.
00:39:59
Speaker
Yeah, and don't get me wrong, I'm sure there are a lot of male streamers out there who also get a share of harassment, even just in certain gaming communities that are just really toxic. I've heard many gaming communities that some games I've only just started playing and people have come back to me and said, oh, that community is so toxic.
00:40:17
Speaker
there's no way you'll match to a game, they'll just kick you out straight away. And don't get me wrong, I'm sure there are a lot of male streamers who play, you know, certain games and then other streamers or other even other people will come onto their stream and start harassing them about their skills or even how they look. Again, it's really easy to hide behind a computer and pick on someone and bully somebody or even try and get some kind of gratification from them.
00:40:42
Speaker
And, you know, even gender stereotypes or even people with different backgrounds getting harassed because of who they are. It hurts me personally. Like, it's horrible to hear that kind of stuff is going on. But I think it's important to create awareness for it as well.
00:40:57
Speaker
Because the streaming community, if you think about it, I mean, it's still new. There's still a lot of things to navigate, especially with musicians joining Twitch as well. That's been a fairly new-ish kind of thing. I mean, it's been going around for a while now, but if you go on YouTube and try and find tech support videos for artists doing live streams,
00:41:17
Speaker
it's very hard. So it's still, all this stuff is still being navigated. But at the same time, it's, I think it's just important to raise awareness about this sort of thing. Also, not just from viewers to Twitch streamers, but also Twitch streamers to other Twitch streamers. Because I know that there's a fair case of either bullying or abuse that kind of circulates throughout communities. And it's heartbreaking, especially when someone is trying to establish themselves and grow a community.

Managing Negativity and Staying Positive

00:41:45
Speaker
Like it's, it's quite traumatizing and
00:41:47
Speaker
I can probably speak from experience because it's something that I've gone through, but I just think it's important to be aware about it. And I was just going back to, I think there was a couple of posts I saw on Twitter recently about this is probably just sort of going off into another tangent here.
00:42:04
Speaker
A couple of female streamers even said, oh, I lost my viewership and I lost friends in my community when they found out that I was in a relationship. I'm like, what? Obviously certain people have stopped watching their channel because they know that the streamer is not available.
00:42:20
Speaker
Things like that that are hurting streamer careers because they're in relationships in real life and they're trying to keep their real life separate from their career. It's just, yeah, it's just crazy. I mean, I could talk about it for hours. There's just so many things that people struggle with within the streaming world that I just think the more awareness and the more people share their stories, that's also very important too. Because I mean, we're in 2022, I'm sure.
00:42:47
Speaker
all about cancel culture and people's controversies coming out and people saying things they weren't meant to say. And yeah, I mean we very much live in an era of, you know, that's not okay. So I just think it's important to, you know, when things are happening that you're not happy with, come forward and you talk about it and speak out because other people are probably going through it as well. Yeah, yeah, just...
00:43:10
Speaker
well put and I know I keep saying that but genuinely you keep summarising it very well but you're totally right. It is that kind of unfortunate dark side to Twitch I suppose and just I suppose the internet in general you know you can expand it to that but I suppose it is like trying to find that kind of safe community that you can kind of be with because
00:43:32
Speaker
And as I said before, I am so proud of the community that I've built up because they all seem very friendly people. They just want to chill out, they just want to relax and everything. As I said before, it could have easily gone the opposite way where I had people that just wanted to use the channel or just, you know, be very toxic and say, oh, I don't like that or I don't like this and things.
00:43:57
Speaker
or even bully you or put you down. Yeah, absolutely. I know exactly what you mean. Because I mean, that is like a danger for, and again, I know I keep going back to new streamers, but it's a danger because when you're going into Twitch, like after Matt, I knew nothing about Twitch. I didn't even know what a raid was. Like I got raided once and I thought it was being rolled. And I thought, oh my god.
00:44:19
Speaker
was this and then it turned out it was a positive thing, but that could have easily been someone who thought, well, that's a small streamer, I'm gonna harass them and everything. And it's a worry because, I mean, I have been in streams where people have been either trolling
00:44:35
Speaker
or making fun of the, like usually it's face cam streamers, but like making fun of their appearance, making fun of their voice and things and it's nasty and it's really dangerous in those kind of formative months streamers go into Twitch or even content creation in general because
00:44:53
Speaker
As soon as you get it, as much as obviously you have to build that kind of, I don't want to stay immunity, because it's still harsh when you get a negative review or negative feedback about something you've been working on for ages and things. Oh, of course, yeah. Oh my god, I've been slaving away at this thinking, oh, this is the one thing that I think is going to boost my channel. And then you get a five-year-old on his mum's computer, like, little fake or something like that, and you're like, I think I'm
00:45:20
Speaker
I just don't get it. But if you do get those kind of, or rather if that kind of negativity gets pointed in your direction, I can totally see why people suddenly get quite resentful on platforms like Twitter or Twitch and things where they think, okay, because I'm getting so much hate myself, this is just the way of the world. And it
00:45:45
Speaker
It probably isn't. There is good to be cheesy for a second. Apologies. No, you're not being cheesy at all. No, not at all. Thank you. There are so many good things, both on Twitch and the world as a whole. You know, obviously it's hard to be optimistic and the world we're living in right now with all those things going on. Absolutely.
00:46:05
Speaker
if you're using Twitch or YouTube or whatever social media you want to use, if you're using them to try and escape that to become someone else and then you're just getting pulled into that negativity again, because don't get me wrong, usually if people troll, don't get me wrong, sometimes they are just very spiteful with horrible people but you might get cases where you don't know what's going on in their lives and vice versa, they don't know what the streamer might be going through and
00:46:33
Speaker
is that kind of relationship where if one person's directing a negative attitude towards the other it's, well, what's the reason for that? And obviously all it takes is like one word to just completely ruin the vibe, as the cool kid say of course, and it is just like that worry. Like as I said, you know, I've met amazing streamers like yourself and
00:46:55
Speaker
everybody who I've met have been so supportive, they've been so great, but it is that danger, isn't it, that it could easily have been, I don't know, Bob from down the road who doesn't like Scottish accents for some reason. Or they don't like a certain game or things like that, or they don't like the way you do it despite the fact that, you know, it's your stream, your rules kind of thing.
00:47:19
Speaker
Oh, just for the record, your voice is bloody awesome. I love your accent so much. It's so cool. Oh, thank you. Same to you. I just want to say, let me back at you. Thank you. Mine's a bit of a hybrid though now. I mean, I've got English mixed with New Zealand mixed with Australian now, so I've got a bit of a hybrid thing going on and I get a lot of people saying, are you from America? And I'm like, no.
00:47:40
Speaker
No, you're close, but not quite. But yeah, look, so many amazing thoughts come out of what you just said. I mean, if you think about it, the world is kind of built up on fake and negative news. I mean, if you read the news, everything in the news is doomsday. The world's going to end soon. Climate change. I am never ignorant to any of that stuff.
00:48:01
Speaker
The only reason I personally don't read the news as much now is because I know it's just going to feed into those negative thoughts and into anxiety and into wishing that you could do something to fix everything. Like, I'm very empathetic, so I feel other people's struggles. Like, I feel it in my body and in my mind, and so reading the news is just, you know, it's just dangerous.
00:48:22
Speaker
You know, the world is kind of built up on all this doomsday negative news and scaremongering and people really do want to cut through that and be in a place where they do feel safe. They do feel happy. They are getting that positive energy. Gosh, like I said, just so many thoughts came out of what you just said there. I mean,
00:48:38
Speaker
I think it's just important to try and be positive and also just try and keep your faith in the good things in the world. Right now, just to think that a pandemic has just sort of swept through, and now there's a full-scale war going on in Europe. I mean, not full-scale, but it's very much a prominent part of what's happening in Europe right now. It's heartbreaking seeing what's happening in that part of the world, especially a part of the world that I actually plan to visit at some point.
00:49:04
Speaker
on my next international trip. It's heartbreaking, but you look at people's resilience and people's bravery and people who are out there advocating for better, for change and normalizing things that back in the day you would have probably been thrown away for. If you think
00:49:20
Speaker
We have come a long way in I'd say the 20th and 21st century. We've still got a long way to go. But yeah, I mean, I don't want to get too political here. But yeah, I mean, it's important to try and stay positive. It's hard to, especially when you are brought up in a pessimistic environment or you know, you're around negativity. It's just you've got to try and cut through that as best as you can because the only thing that's I think really going to get people by
00:49:45
Speaker
is you know laughing and playing games doing things they enjoy that's what's going to get you by in the long run if you continue reading things or looking at things or even being around things that are just going to breed doubt and hatred and resentment you know it just feeds off each other really doesn't it i mean
00:50:02
Speaker
And that's why I say, for me personally, it's hard for me to share my struggles online. I share things and I'm like, oh no, don't say that. You shouldn't have said that, Glitter. Get rid of that. When I share things online, I am very conscious of what it is because I do want people not just to see my highlight reel, I want people to see what I'm going through.
00:50:21
Speaker
Not because woe is me, it's because, first of all, I'm struggling. It's good to have a platform where you feel like you're convinced about these things, but also for other people to look at that and say, you know what, I feel that way right now too. Wow, I'm actually not alone. There are so many people going through this right now. Maybe if I message this person, we might be able to talk about this. We might be able to discuss it together and then I'll walk away feeling so much better because I actually got my struggles out there into the world. Those are many of the thoughts that just sort of rose out of what you said.
00:50:49
Speaker
just like one thing that you brought up, I mean again fantastic points, one thing I thought was quite interesting that you pointed out was like you were saying how although it's important to stay positive you still acknowledge that these things are going on, it's like it's not trying to build up this kind of layer of toxic positivity almost to be like everything's great you know nothing as bad as in the world you just have to have this kind of
00:51:14
Speaker
positive mindset, let's grind guys, woo! And it's like, that's not healthy either, I have to say, because that's kind of bordering on denial. But as you said, to be able to try and stay positive and think of the positive things in life, even if it's something simple, because I don't think people kind of acknowledge that something good happens in your life, like, oh, maybe you might get a free coffee, or
00:51:39
Speaker
might find a penny on the street and things. Those aren't the kind of things I think people think of when they think, oh yeah, massive wins. But I feel as if people should start thinking of those kind of small things and small victories. Absolutely. As we've both been saying, the world is just in such a horrible position right now. And that's unfortunate with the thing with history. History's always going to repeat itself. There's always going to be dark times. There's going to be better times. Yeah, absolutely.
00:52:07
Speaker
But at the end of the day, though, it's like you have to try and find that positive moment. And again, I'm not like seeing people who are genuinely struggling to be like, hey, turn that frown upside down. Like I'm not seeing that at all. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like false positives kind of like, oh, yeah, yeah, you're all good. Yeah, you're fine walking off. It's fine.
00:52:26
Speaker
I mean there's such thing as tough love but you know a decent balance of tough love I mean you get tough love from your close friends but if someone's like oh you know just just walk it off yeah a bit of a false positive I guess in a way yeah absolutely sorry sorry you were saying no no no it's just trying to find those the good things in life I suppose is what I'm trying to say which I know is a very simplistic and quite a quick way to summarize again we could talk about this for like hours and hours
00:52:55
Speaker
for sure. Because I have seen a lot of people, you know, like they'll be smiling over, you know, like the smallest thing, like, you know, they've seen a dog or they've finished a podcast episode for once, cough, cough. That's just me looking in front of a mirror. I'm like, yes, I did it. Small things that are very kind of personal because in the kind of work I've done in the past, there has always been like mottos in the work
00:53:19
Speaker
where while I was working there, one of the motos was something up on the lines of everybody has a personal crisis that they go through. It's not like a general thing. Everyone can go through the same thing. That goes without saying, but people will react to it differently. They'll be affected by it differently, whether that's small scale, whether that's large scale.
00:53:39
Speaker
scale, whether it's mentally, physically. There's so many variables, and I think a lot of people can make the kind of reductive argument of saying, oh, it's fine, you know, let's pull through and things. But it's just getting those moments, isn't it, to kind of step back, try and think of what you do have. I can get angry and stressed, and whether it's with work, whether it's with my shopping bag, bursting open or something.
00:54:03
Speaker
like Kevin McCallister in Home Alone when he's walking home and he's like, ah, geez. See, you joke, but that nearly, well, it wasn't the bottom of it, but the handles because they're like really horrible brass sticky ones. So I'm carrying like big bottles of water in this bag and they just went,
00:54:23
Speaker
So I just went like a row and along the ground and all these people looking and I'm like right fantastic start of the day right there. Oh I know right. Nothing better to kickstart your day, where's the coffee? I'm like yay! But yeah, although I do have
00:54:38
Speaker
like everyone has their own personal problems and obviously I'm not going to deep dive into that but I do feel lucky that I'm able to do things like you know I'm able to run the podcast I'm able to do my streaming I'm able to again network with amazing people like yourself and the other streamers and content creators I've met in Twitch to be able to talk to them to you know share experiences and at the end of the day I feel very lucky I was about to make a joke and say hashtag blessed but I feel as if that would be too far
00:55:07
Speaker
Absolutely. I know what you mean. I know what you mean. Yeah. Look, just back to what you're saying. Cause that was so well said, like back to what you were saying about how it's so good to just celebrate the small things and the small wins. Like even that's just such an important thing. And I was actually going to mention it before there is a guy on YouTube. His name is Struthless.
00:55:25
Speaker
And I've shared a couple of his videos with friends because a few of my friends, we've been talking about that whole mindset of I'm not feeling successful and I'm feeling like I'm falling behind. And there's a guy again called Struthless and he has this brilliant video on YouTube about like, watch this if you feel like you're falling behind in life. And he just covers so many really great points in that about, you know, redefining success and comparing yourself to other people. And here's the thing, like some of the stuff I share on social media will be like really small.
00:55:54
Speaker
silly things or I'll be dancing in my kitchen or I'll be cooking something, you know? And it's really little things like that that I find can really help pull me out of all the bad stuff. I was gonna swear then, but actually my filter quickly switched on. Small things like that that really pick you up and pull you out of some of the bad stuff.
00:56:12
Speaker
Like I said, and like what you were saying as well, it's good to be aware of these things. It's good to acknowledge that there are bad things happening. But like I said, everyone's going to feel better when they switch on a video of some cute cats or you know, something silly or something sweet. It's important to have those moments and to highlight those moments because if you think about it, we're all everyday people. We all do everyday things. We go shopping, you know, we go to the pet shop or we do something
00:56:38
Speaker
It's just really small, but there might be something funny that happens throughout that is worth sharing. It's like a quick moment of, ha ha, that was so funny. I want to show everyone else. So they will laugh as well. Definitely. I think it's important. And for me, I think I've really been trying to cut through and get to the smaller things, especially when you're in a really bad mindset or a really difficult situation mentally.

Personal Growth and Reflection

00:57:02
Speaker
Having those small successes are what really helped
00:57:05
Speaker
you get back to yourself and and allow you to start focusing on the big successes and that's just a big one like especially being in your late 20s I think like I'm in my late 20s I mean I'm not sure about you but being in your late 20s it kind of feels like a turning point in your life where you're like well what is success and how am I being successful and you know what are the great things that are happening to me in my life so yeah another bite from me
00:57:29
Speaker
totally agree with you there because someone in their late 20s as well as I cry into like a cake of 30 candles soon. One day it's fast approaching this year and I'm like oh god oh no please you know that scene in Friends where it's have you seen Friends yeah? I'm not a massive fan of Friends but I have seen Friends and look I'll just quickly say I mean your 30s is your prime like supposed to be one of your primes
00:57:58
Speaker
So they keep telling me. It's just it always reminds me of an episode where all the main characters, like, they talk about their 30th birthday and Joey's is quite melancholy because they bring out the cake and they're all happy and he starts crying and he just starts yelling, why god, why? You were supposed to make them old, not me.
00:58:20
Speaker
why and how and how funny is it sometimes when you just kind of i feel like even though i'm again coming closer to that you know to my 30s i still feel young i still feel 18 or 20 you know but i think you come to a certain what is it point in your life where
00:58:36
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or even at crossroads where things change, like your outlook and your perspective changes. Let's put mental health aside for a second or even anxiety aside for a second. Your outlook on life and your outlook on certain things changes and I guess you learn over time not to look at everything as doom and gloom and, oh my gosh, that's such a big deal. When you're a kid, some things are just so much more important to you than they might be when you're 30, you know what I mean?
00:59:03
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I always remember, kind of an aside tangent, but I remember my partner and I decided to, we were kind of like in a day trip and we decided to visit the old university that I used to go to. We're walking around thinking, like I was getting quite nostalgic thinking, oh that's what this is, that's what that is. And I remember seeing some of the students walk by, and this was like a couple of years ago, so I was still in my twenties, but the amount of baby-faced looking students
00:59:31
Speaker
I don't know if it's just I suddenly had like an old man switching my head as soon as I saw them it switched on but all these and maybe this says more about me than them but that kind of they had that optimistic oh I'm gonna save the world and do this and that and I'm like oh you poor kid just shaking my head and walking on
00:59:50
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it's crazy isn't it yeah yeah because as it's like as you said you do feel quite young because don't get me wrong I'm still young technically but absolutely but when you see like that 18 to very early 20s age range yeah they're almost like children and you think back to when you were like 18 to 21 and you think oh I feel like an adult because you know I'm finally at that age it's like no no no
01:00:16
Speaker
100% or not. And you think you know everything as well. You're like, oh, I know everything about the world. I've seen the world. It's like, what? Not quite. I'm going to have a long stare and talking to with my future self to be like, listen, you're going to be a Twitch streamer. You're going to be doing podcasts. Trust me.
01:00:34
Speaker
just put that aside it feels weird now kind of being in the 2020s considering people are like oh can you believe it's going to be 2010 and now it's 2022 as of recording this episode and you're like good god where is the time gone
01:00:50
Speaker
Oh, it's crazy. I just feel like I blink my eyes and it's March or it's April or it's Christmas. And I'm just like, don't get me wrong. I love Christmas. It's the best time of the year for me, really. I mean, I do get a little bit of sadness these days because my mum is in another country now. I don't really see my mum very much anymore, but Christmas is like my favourite time of the year.
01:01:08
Speaker
But yeah, time just, it goes so fast, and you think it, sometimes you think it doesn't, but it really does. In some ways, time is on your side, other ways maybe not so much, but yeah, like, that's the thing, when I was, I don't know, 21, I walked around like I knew everything, and sometimes I even still do, I walk around like, oh yeah, I'm almost 30, I know what I'm doing. But there's room for making mistakes, and there's room for learning about things and educating yourself about certain things.
01:01:33
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things. But yeah, like you gotta love it. I mean, there's a lot of passion and young people that, you know, being young and having ambitions and wanting to do so many amazing things with your life. But I guess also, would you say it's like a paradox of, you know, I want to do so much with my life, but then, you know, the whole question of how quickly time goes by and kind of feeling like I want to do so much, but then I want to do so much in such a short space of time because time goes so fast.
01:01:59
Speaker
You know that's why one of the reasons I feel like it's important to pace yourself and slow down and that's something that I need to teach myself as well because I am literally like I said I have my hands in so many jars I'm like right I want to stream right I want to do music right I want to do this and it just gets to a point where you're like oh my gosh calm down you know there's still time for this and we were just saying like we're reaching our 30s and we're like oh my gosh we're getting old but it's like I don't know if you've ever seen that Jennifer Garner film with 13 going on 30 and she's like oh
01:02:28
Speaker
I want to be 30 because it's like the best years of your life. But I say the same thing to my partner. My partner and I have a small age gap. He's in his 30s and he'll turn around to me sometimes and he'll be like, oh yeah, I still feel 20. I still feel like I just left school and there's just so much more to see and do and explore. But slow down. Just take your time with it. You don't need to do 50 things at once because 50 things at once your brain can really only hold one or two thoughts at one point,

Language and Cultural Exchange

01:02:56
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right?
01:02:56
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is balancing what you want to do without getting that burnout because I know what you mean. Before I started streaming, I'm very much into language learning. So initially, I started relearning French because I used to learn French in school. I wasn't very good at it because my listening skills are terrible.
01:03:16
Speaker
like in any language but I would try my best and don't get me wrong I wouldn't succeed at all but I would try my best and that didn't really work so I was like okay great I left it for ages I didn't come back to languages until the end of university and I decided to get back into French again and I wasn't really vibing with it so I'm like you know what go big or go home so I decided to mix and match with a lot of languages towards the end of uni I was learning Mandarin which I still am technically
01:03:45
Speaker
I've been learning Spanish, which I absolutely love, but the grammar is horrible. That's all I want to say about Spanish. Beautiful language, terrible grammar. You've got all of these different languages where they sound amazing. I really want to learn Scottish Gaelic as well. Even though it's not a really useful language, only 1% of Scottish people actually speak it. It's that kind of thing where it's just something I'm really interested in.
01:04:12
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There was even that very awkward stage and if there's any language fans listening please cover your ears for the next five to ten seconds but Esperanto was one of them as well because one of my friends found out about that language. It was like a constructed language so again it's like a made-up language that had a really interesting history and my friend and I started doing it because we're like oh yeah it's kind of cool but the more I got into that the more I was kind of burning myself out because I was going from
01:04:40
Speaker
Chinese to Spanish to Gallic and things like that. Again, I was trying to fit in my other hobbies and things like that, thinking oh maybe I could do content creation around this and I'm also into creative writing so I thought well maybe I'll do this and then I know exactly what you mean, it's trying to juggle all those things in a timely manner because see those YouTubers with the bullet journals and things like that? Some of them are fibbing, I think.
01:05:05
Speaker
They'll be like, oh, look at my tidy, organised day, and it's like, come on, there's one of you out there. Probably doesn't use that journal.
01:05:15
Speaker
Oh, no. Oh, I know exactly what you mean. Yeah. It's like sometimes where is the time to journal as well? Like to write everything down as like, it's one thing to do stuff, but then to like write down what you're going to do. It's like trying to get into schedules and stuff. But yeah, what you were saying about learning languages and how you're really getting into learning languages. Oh, it's, it's incredible. Like personally, I'm the same. I.
01:05:37
Speaker
I'm fascinated not just with different cultures but just languages as well. It's amazing dipping into a few different ones and learning different like just how different languages they use. Some come you know from the back of the mouth and the throat and then some people speak with the front of their mouth in different parts of the world. It's like again I could just go crazy just thinking about all this stuff but um there are a lot of polyglots on YouTube. I'm sure you've had a look but there's polyglots on YouTube that even speak
01:06:05
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know how to speak Old Norse and they go all the way back into history of Scandinavian languages and it's so fascinating and it's just so fascinating to think that even the English language emerged from a language that didn't even sound like English.
01:06:22
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like you listen to old Norse and you listen to some of the languages that influenced English and how different it is like it's it's it's just mind-blowing and we even did like a I think a few lessons in English class in high school on old English and it was just incredible and the way again the way they speak it it sound it sounds Scandinavian it sounds completely different yeah I mean even if
01:06:45
Speaker
You get some time. It's just a really, really cool thing to explore. And there's even a lot of history channels on YouTube that talk about not just the history, but also the evolution of languages. Again, I could get lost in that stuff because it just blows me away. It's just incredible.
01:07:01
Speaker
just thinking back because this is another thing that I think people don't realise the potential almost of how important language is and I mean especially when it comes to content creation because although we are of course both English speaking content creators
01:07:16
Speaker
There's a whole vast world out there that obviously might not have English as the first language or they want to learn English because that's what I do a lot with the podcast as well. I've got a language learning app where I'll put out the episodes and I'll get people to... or not get them, that sounds like
01:07:33
Speaker
This is very hostile. It's like, you're going to listen to this. No, I'll post that up and then I'll give them the option, you know, whether they want to listen to it or not as like English listening because all of the conversations usually are quite, you know, informal and we talk about a kind of varied range. And I have to admit, like I've had like a lot of amazing experiences as like, thanks to learning languages. I mean, I ended up in China once for the Chinese New Year because it was learning Mandarin.
01:08:02
Speaker
If I hadn't started learning Mandarin, I would have never been there. That was like...
01:08:08
Speaker
That was a while ago. I say a while ago but thinking back it's like yes that's it. It is a while ago. If I didn't do that or even with Spanish, with Spanish I've met so many amazing people and I've managed to kind of learn a lot more about like other, as you were saying at the beginning you know other cultures and things like that and you get to kind of see the kind of nuances for example how passionate Spain is about the ham.
01:08:35
Speaker
how proud they are of particular areas and things like that. It's just, it's absolutely incredible learning these languages, kind of seeing the ins and outs of that society from that. And again, you're right, we could talk about this for absolutely whatever. That'll be next week's episode, don't worry.
01:08:51
Speaker
I totally agree with you as such. I wouldn't suggest that everyone goes out and, you know, works. I mean, you can work Spanish if you want, you know, go nuts, but, you know, to kind of open your mind to different cultures, to different languages and things is a very important thing because it
01:09:06
Speaker
It also opens up your mind a lot more to other people who are going to come into your stream because, for example, it's kind of a mutual thing. Sometimes I go into his stream and vice versa. There's a Japanese streamer called Lekuso. I honestly keep getting it wrong every time, but basically he's like a speedrunner for the Sonic the Hedgehog games.
01:09:25
Speaker
Even though he is predominantly like Japanese speaking in his streams, he still speaks English and he still tries to interact with the chat and things and sometimes I do that with like, especially for the Spanish ones, I'm not very confident in Mandarin. I have to say if they ask me one question I'd be like nope I don't understand, I don't get it. It is definitely a very important thing and I sincerely apologize for that long-winded ramble. It was probably my turn for that.
01:09:51
Speaker
Oh, no, no, absolutely. I feel like I've been going on for quite a while as well, but I mean, it's just awesome. And you know, what's really great is, or something that I find just really fascinating too, is that even some countries that don't have English as a first language have to learn English at school. Like it's, it's a, it's part of the curriculum. Like they actually have to learn English. And so if you go to Sweden, for example, there's a lot of Swedish people who speak English. I think like the older generations don't, but then the newer generations can speak English because they learn it at school.
01:10:21
Speaker
And again, any Swedish people listening or any Swedes listening, I don't think it's the case for every school, but there are some countries that it's a mandatory thing to learn English. One thing, like just going back to what you're saying about how you've traveled as well. Like I've, I've done my share of traveling and I just think it's amazing going over there and getting deep diving into the culture and Japan, for example, deep diving into anime and manga and all this amazing stuff. I think that's one thing, but just.
01:10:49
Speaker
you know, even reading it, if it fascinates you, reading more about history and maybe just the backstory of why certain things are happening in the world right now, you know, I'll just say even like Russia Ukraine situation right now, like that's not just something that sprung out of nowhere, you know, there is a massive history behind all of it. And it's just very fascinating to read and learn about these things and learn about like early settlements and the evolution of different languages. It's incredible. It really, really is.
01:11:18
Speaker
something that I encourage my friends to do when they're travelling is, you know, do a little bit of research and maybe you'll find places that you want to visit when you're doing that research. Things that you might have not otherwise heard

Travel Experiences and Plans

01:11:30
Speaker
about. On the side the world's going to be a different place once everything starts opening up and everybody will be
01:11:36
Speaker
you know, running out to get their tickets and things. And they'll be like, Oh, absolutely. Yeah. All the airlines are going to have a field day. And I was, we were having this discussion of, are the flights going to be expensive or cheap? And I always said they were going to be expensive. They are going to literally make flights expensive. And then a friend of mine was like, no, I reckon flights are going to be cheap so that more people book more tickets. And yeah, like we're looking at flights now in Australia and flights for me to go back home are just atrocious, like so expensive.
01:12:06
Speaker
I'm not sure how it is for your part of the world, with Scotland flying from Scotland to maybe Spain, or the tickets are just insane, honestly. I think it depends on the airline here. Sometimes they're alright, but if you're going for something like British Airways, it's a little bit more expensive. But maybe Ryan is still going.
01:12:25
Speaker
Oh yeah, somehow Ryan Air survived. I'll tell you how bad it is. They survived so much that they've actually got a TikTok page. Oh really? Oh okay. Yep. I was so shocked when they learned that. I was like, Ryan Air has a TikTok. The world is coming to an end, of course. It's been a while since I've been on the Ryan Air flight, so if any representatives are listening, if you want to offer a
01:12:54
Speaker
If you want to offer a cheeky sponsorship, I'll take back the comments. I think every part of the world has their Ryanair. We've got Jetstar. Again, I actually don't know if Jetstar even fared very well through a pandemic, but again, no shade, Jetstar. But yeah, there's the budget airlines, obviously. You're sitting at the gate for an hour and a half trying to get off the flight. There's some traumatic experience that you've had that you associate with that airline.
01:13:22
Speaker
Oh yeah, it's wonderful times. I got my 50 bucks worth. Oh yeah, we got to fly so cheap to this country, better walk course. Apparently not enough. Apparently not enough at all. Is there anywhere in the world that you're like, what's your first destination when you, when the borders open up? I mean, have the borders open back up for you guys or? It keeps changing. There was that whole back and forth, like again, not to go too deep into the wonderful state of affairs. Oh, absolutely.
01:13:49
Speaker
during the pandemic but like they had like a red light green light amber light system of countries then they shut down the borders and they brought them back up again then they're kind of going back and forth so as far as i know they're open but i don't know it's just it's kind of back and forth by the time this episode comes out it'll probably be green lights to everyone i would honestly love to go to japan
01:14:14
Speaker
like I think Japan would be like I've got a friend as well who would love to go to Japan with his fiance and he keeps saying how amazing it looks and everything I mean I'm bored of my weeaboo I'll admit it but at the same time they've got such an interesting like history and culture because I studied a bit of Shintoism
01:14:34
Speaker
in university. It is so fascinating and it would be amazing to go over because when I was in China I remember seeing the, and don't get me wrong there's a lot of steps to get up to those temples but I remember like going up these hills and seeing like these absolutely stunning temples with a massive statues and things like that and it just feels very surreal you know that way when you're in another country and you're like
01:14:57
Speaker
you get that kind of click in your head of, oh, I'm not at home, I'm in another country. It just kind of washes over and you think, wow, this is amazing getting to experiences, whether it's, obviously, whether it's Europe, Asia, the Americas, or of course Australia. Sorry, I don't want to leave your country at this.
01:15:14
Speaker
Where would you like to go? Well, that's the thing. I had a little note going on in Apple Notes. I started a little list and I had a whole bunch of places I wanted to visit in Europe, like Eastern and Western Europe.
01:15:30
Speaker
I had Germany, Switzerland, Poland, and then obviously Ukraine, and Czech Republic, Romania, because I've been to Japan already. So definitely, definitely hit me up when you do go, because I've got a lot of recommendations. But yeah, I mean, I've been to Fiji, I've been to Japan, I have been to Paris already, like to France, Ireland, obviously grew up in England, so I've been to parts of the UK, and I've gone back to England since. I've been to Spain. So I've been to a decent amount of places,
01:15:59
Speaker
For me, I like to pick areas of the world, especially living in Australia. You're very disconnected, you're quite far away from everything. Ideally, you want to get on a plane and try and get in as much as you can in a certain part of the world. Our big one is definitely Europe. I think Germany and Ukraine were at the top of that list, but obviously with the situation with Ukraine, that will have to
01:16:23
Speaker
be on hold, but yeah, that part of the world for me, and Italy, I would just love to go to Venice. It just fascinates me to looking at the history, but also the fact that Venice is pretty much a floating city, and it's just amazing. These parts of the world, also, I'm very much into my cooking, so going to these parts of the world and having authentic Italian food. Not just going to an Italian restaurant in Sydney, going to an authentic Italian restaurant in Venice, you know?
01:16:50
Speaker
So yeah, definitely that part of the world is at the top of my list. And then since I do have family still in England, I will probably drop by and see them, and even my partner wants to come to Scotland. He wants to visit Scotland, and hopefully Edinburgh, because apparently Edinburgh is just mind-blowing. So yeah, your part of the world is very much where my heart is right now.
01:17:12
Speaker
I mean, no bias for me, but yeah, Scotland's the best one in the past. Proud Scott. Absolutely. A hundred percent. The places you listed there are absolutely fantastic. Italy's beautiful. I haven't been to Venice, but Italy, yeah, Italy's fantastic. Germany, I think I've been to Berlin once. That's lovely. Sweden's nice as well, like Stockholm especially. Oh, yeah, Sweden. Yeah, yeah, that's another one here.
01:17:38
Speaker
though I was kind of laughing earlier when you were talking about how you get people who you think they don't speak English and then all of a sudden they just come into it with like the full floon because I remember I went to a shop and the person asked me something and I kind of like stood with a blank stare and as I was about to reply he just immediately turned around and said would you like a bag and I'm like
01:18:00
Speaker
Oh, yes. And I was just like, I am so jealous of your language skills right now, random stranger. It's crazy. Yeah. And when we were in Japan, there was just so many like amazing things, like culture shock things and just how careful and how thorough they are.
01:18:15
Speaker
Like you'd be shopping, right? And go to checkout and they would literally look at what you're buying. They would check it over to make sure that nothing was broken or there was nothing wrong with it. Whereas you might find here or in western parts of the world, they'll just chuck it in a bag and be like, here you go, see you later. But like literally making sure that you're happy with it before you purchased and obviously how thorough and how careful and how much they care about their food.
01:18:41
Speaker
like how much pride they put into their food and how they present their food it's just even those experiences it's those small experiences where you just oh that was another one pokemon go in tokyo literally going in into a back street area with your phone playing pokemon go and then having japanese people will approach you and saying hey do you want to be my friend on pokemon go so you have these friends on your pokemon go from tokyo it's like yes this is this is the real thing
01:19:06
Speaker
It's worth it just for that, to be honest. But yeah, just as a kind of closing point, because honestly, we could speak for hours on this.

Creative Pursuits and Achievements

01:19:16
Speaker
Of course, as we've established, you've been streaming on Twitch, you make your own music as well, which is fantastic, and you also cosplay. As you were saying before, you know, you have all these things going on just now and
01:19:30
Speaker
Yeah, no, they're absolutely fantastic. I think personally, and this is me being biased of course, but no, I think you're genuinely doing a great job with all of them. Thank you so, so much. And back to what we were saying, I'm not very good with promo at all. I'm still very, very bad with promo, so I don't really openly talk too much about what I'm working on. But it's really awesome having somebody interested in your work and what you're doing and just asking about you, so it's really great.
01:19:55
Speaker
So is there anything that you're kind of working on just now or is there any kind of ideas or things that you have for the future? Well, at the moment, I have two tracks, two music tracks that were meant to be released last month, but I recently started a new job and it's actually started working for my music school. So yes, it's been very flat out, so it kind of put a couple of projects on hold. So at the moment, I'm really trying to push two tracks out at the moment, hopefully can get those over the line.
01:20:24
Speaker
within the next month or so, get them mixed and mastered and release them on all the streaming platforms. And then I do have a couple of collabs as well. So I'm collabing with a fellow streamer, doing vocals for that collab. And then there's also another producer who's come forward with a song for me to collab. So I think right now my main focus is trying to get back into music because for me it's just, again, it's the creative outlet. It would be good just to try and push more music streams because I'm still very
01:20:53
Speaker
I'll admit like I still get quite a bit of stage fright with music streams. Since production, like music production is very much a process. You can get very much up in your head of, oh, you know, it's what I'm doing entertaining or people finding what I'm doing fascinating or interesting. So yeah, I think right now for me, music's at the forefront and it's just nice to have a balance where you can sort of sit down and stream and catch up with friends and play games. Like even that's just something I enjoy.
01:21:19
Speaker
And I'm glad to hear that you're still enjoying it, because I know you were saying before that it is quite hard to kind of balance them all together. But honestly, you are doing fantastic work. And I was going to say before we do actually wrap up, first of all, thank you so much for coming on, just being very open about everything. So thank you so much.
01:21:39
Speaker
Oh, no worries at all. Thank you so, so much for having me. It's really been awesome, and I'll admit this is my first proper podcast, so I obviously have a little bit of nerves coming into it. And it's just really great to chat, and it's really great to chat with someone that obviously we both resonate together and have very similar views and interests, so it's awesome. It's so cool.
01:22:00
Speaker
So before we wrap up, we're cutting these awesome listeners and listening to us podcast at home. Where can they find your content?

Closing Remarks and Promotions

01:22:10
Speaker
So on Twitch, I am Glittakitty1 for anyone who wants to follow my streaming. And if anybody wants to follow in my music career or my music journey, I'm just GLTR Music on Instagram, SoundCloud, Facebook, Twitter. I definitely recommend checking out GLTR on Spotify and SoundCloud if you want to
01:22:30
Speaker
listen to the tracks yeah so you can find all my work there and i would just second that and go check out Clutter's content honestly fantastic work and again i'm not just saying that because i can't remember who it was but one of the people i had on before i'd said oh your work's great and everything they're like ah you just say this to everyone and i'm like
01:22:49
Speaker
No worries. But genuinely, yeah, go check out Clusters' content. You'd honestly do fantastic work. Your community is really lovely and very welcoming, absolutely awesome person. So again, thank you. Oh, thank you so, so much. I think we're still in the early days, still trying to break through and make an impact and grow the community. And I am really looking forward to continuing to do that. So it's amazing.
01:23:16
Speaker
Well, I just can't wait for the day that I do one of these podcast episodes and I'm like, I used to have this amazing musician who was on here and now they've got all the records and things like that.
01:23:30
Speaker
Oh, I've got to get onto it. Gotta get my stuff out there. Exactly. If you would like to follow any more Chat Tsunami content, then you can find us on Anchor, Spotify, iTunes, YouTube and really any good podcast app. So look for the Red Panda under the name Chat Tsunami and we'll see you there. But until then, thank you all so, so much for listening to this episode. And as always, stay safe.
01:23:56
Speaker
Stay awesome, and most importantly, stay hydrated.