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Episode 268: Another busy championship weekend!
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Southampton – We take a look back at the championship weekend, ad some of the more interesting results!
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Introduction and Catch-up
00:00:14
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hello and welcome back to the Daily Southampton, part of the Global Sports Podcast Network. My name is Greg Elliott and as always dream to today, joined by my good friend and wonderful co-host, Zach Ingevinch.
00:00:26
Global Sports Podcast Network
How you doing, mate? You alright?
00:00:28
Zak
You know when you come back off of annual leave and then you you kind of just wish you could retire? That's how I'm doing today.
00:00:34
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:00:36
Zak
So I'm fine.
Transfer Deadline Day Insights
00:00:37
Zak
just it's just Luckily there's been so much news going on. We're recording this on transfer deadline day. um And not even necessarily about Saints, but there's been so much news to like feed off of.
00:00:49
Zak
It's kind of got me through the day. And now we're here. So yeah.
00:00:54
Global Sports Podcast Network
That's it, mate.
00:00:54
Zak
How about you, mate? You doing good?
00:00:54
Global Sports Podcast Network
Look, we're not... I'm doing alright, mate. I'm doing alright.
00:00:57
Zak
Good.
00:00:57
Global Sports Podcast Network
Look, this is quickly becoming one of my favourite episodes that we do in a week, and we kind of missed it last week because we had a midweek game, but my little round-up of the championship is...
00:01:09
Zak
Oh, good Lord, we did this, didn't we?
00:01:09
Global Sports Podcast Network
It's just...
00:01:10
Zak
just completely forgot about
00:01:11
Global Sports Podcast Network
It's just... It's just a reminder that it's the best league in the world, mate, and, like, it's just so many good things happening, and...
00:01:16
Zak
that. Change the record, mate. We get it. I'm guessing that means you don't want promotion, yeah?
00:01:23
Global Sports Podcast Network
I mean, look, I wouldn't be upset is what I'm saying. Like need to throw a few deliberate losses in there to, uh, to sandbag it completely before we go on.
00:01:28
Zak
So we're to where
00:01:33
Zak
so we're completely pilfered and ripped apart and end up having to sign Ben Brereton-Diaz on loan.
00:01:40
Zak
Wait. That's not us. with
00:01:45
Global Sports Podcast Network
Well, look, uh, yeah, we thought we'd go through the games and, uh, And yeah, just just have a little chat about what's happening and what's going on, how the table sits at the moment.
00:01:55
Global Sports Podcast Network
It's all right. And so I guess the logical order to tackle this is reverse chronological, right? So start with Friday night and then work back up through the list I've got in front of me.
00:02:03
Zak
Sure.
00:02:07
Global Sports Podcast Network
Seems to make sense.
00:02:07
Zak
That's fine.
00:02:07
Zak
As long as you remember every single team this time.
00:02:10
Global Sports Podcast Network
I'm promising
Leicester's Championship Journey
00:02:11
Global Sports Podcast Network
nothing. Well, look, Friday night, Leicester beat Birmingham 2-0 in fairly decisively of bookended the game with with goals. and
00:02:22
Zak
Yeah. Not too bad. Not too bad. You
00:02:26
Global Sports Podcast Network
I managed to watch a bit of it, and it kind of looked like Leicester starting to find a bit of their feet.
00:02:36
Global Sports Podcast Network
I mean, Birmingham's still over them.
00:02:37
Zak
I'm ready to say,
00:02:40
Global Sports Podcast Network
Let's be honest. Birmingham probably should have taken something from the game, but they... Man, they did not take their chances.
00:02:47
Zak
Yeah, but that's how it is, isn't it? Again, this is saints all over, is that we struggle to take our chances. When you don't, sometimes that's a problem. I think El Caduce is probably gone now. I think that it's just been confirmed. Again, there's been so much news today. it's been and so that, I guess, is good for Russ, maybe. but he He was left out, but they seem to do right off the back of it.
00:03:12
Zak
But, you know, again, it's as as much as there's a lot of fanfare around Birmingham and Wrexham, they're still promoted from League One. it's like no And Leicester, a team that I think people are still kind of surprised are in the Championship, right?
00:03:26
Zak
Like, as much as it's gone bad for them in the League...
00:03:26
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, even even in their soul even in their sort of financial state, they've still got a team that should do well in the league, right? Like, pending a points deduction potentially, but that might not stop them being there or thereabouts.
00:03:39
Zak
Well, if that ever gets sorted out...
00:03:43
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, well, it would it wouldn't be very football of it to drag on for an extended period of time and have a load of outstanding charges against a team that are going on to do successful things. That just wouldn't happen, would it?
00:03:56
Zak
it Look, it's it's just mad to me that there is a team that still contains Gianni Kvestergaard out there.
00:03:58
Global Sports Podcast Network
Thank you.
00:04:04
Zak
that That is one of the strangest things to me from the whole Leicester thing. Somehow, again, picking up our defensive line from their 9-0 win, and now he has become like a really long-term staple of their squad.
00:04:15
Zak
Never thought that was going to happen. Thought he would maybe spend the season there and then leave. So, fair enough. former qpr boss doing okay like ah they they've got a better slightly they had a better start than us like they're they're up there they've got you know they've got nine points three you know three wins one loss so you need to take them seriously from a table perspective but then again you know again four games in doesn't mean a lot but you know fair play to them that's what i'll say
00:04:29
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:04:37
Global Sports Podcast Network
Very much so. Yeah. You can't sleep on them.
00:04:45
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. Next on the list, Watford versus Southampton, which we're not going to touch on here. We covered it extensively on Monday's episode. If you want to go back and give that listen, it's it's all there.
00:04:57
Global Sports Podcast Network
All of our emotions on the table. Still positives to take from me. Still probably points dropped.
Sheffield Wednesday's Off-pitch Issues
00:05:04
Global Sports Podcast Network
Up next, Sheffield Wednesday, Neil Swansea 2. And man, I feel like the the the weekly talk we're going have about Sheffield Wednesday is just for off-the-pitch reasons going to go from bad to worse every time we have it. It's just really sad to see.
00:05:22
Global Sports Podcast Network
ah ah believe there were talks with the Football League this week. between their owner to try and lift the transfer embargo, but not in like a way so that he could try and like salvage the on-the-pitch performance in a way to like try and sell more players to make money.
00:05:38
Global Sports Podcast Network
Just stripping more and more away. It's just... It's sad.
00:05:43
Zak
there needs to be something when it comes to it.
00:05:44
Global Sports Podcast Network
It's sad.
00:05:46
Zak
Like there's an ownership test, right? I feel like that's not worth the paper it's written on. Like, obviously we struggled with it when we had, we were owned by a company that checks notes turned out to not be real.
00:05:58
Zak
and roberta bes like When we were taken over as well, Gal had been rejected well at least twice because he was unable to prove like actual sources of income.
00:05:58
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:06:06
Zak
But it's it's not from a football perspective as well. Shea's brother went out injured, right? So they're now on a backup goalkeeper on top of all of the disruption.
00:06:12
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:06:16
Zak
ah just feel bad for them, man. like Hopefully they survive the season, the championship get bought by somebody else. But it's not looking good, is it?
00:06:23
Global Sports Podcast Network
It's not looking good. No, uh,
00:06:26
Zak
that Fair play to Swansea, I guess, for kicking them out while they're down. I'm going to hope that we win when what we play
00:06:31
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, I mean, look, it is what it is, right? Yeah, it is what it is. It's still a game of football. You've still got to go out there and win it. It's still... It's not going to be a reflection on, I guess, either team's season, unfortunately.
00:06:46
Global Sports Podcast Network
Very briefly, next, Portsmouth won 1-0 against Preston. i don't want to talk about it too much. It's just fine.
00:06:55
Global Sports Podcast Network
But there's lots of noise on social media about them being above us in the table, but if we'd had those opening four fixtures, we probably would have won them all. So, it's what it is, isn't it?
00:07:03
Zak
I'm sorry. Yeah, okay, but but hang on. and well For the first time in, what, 15 years?
00:07:09
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, exactly.
00:07:09
Zak
Bravo, you fuck you finally got there. Good job. Anyway.
00:07:13
Global Sports Podcast Network
I frankly should have lost to West Brom last week if the referee didn't have an absolute stinker, which which we didn't talk about because we didn't do the championship review last week, but
00:07:19
Zak
Yeah, you...
00:07:24
Zak
No, but you sent me and told me to watch it.
00:07:24
Global Sports Podcast Network
showed you before the show uh
00:07:27
Zak
And I got in trouble with my wife for shouting so loud. she started texting me, what's happening? Because of how annoyed I got some of those decisions, despite the fact I don't really have an investment in that game or team.
00:07:39
Zak
But, you know, ridiculous. Anywho.
00:07:42
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah moving swiftly on uh oxford to coventry city to in a ah draw that sure is a game.
00:07:52
Global Sports Podcast Network
These are both teams. I mean, think that's a good point for Oxford, really.
00:07:56
Zak
but It's a really good point for for Oxford.
00:07:57
Global Sports Podcast Network
Coventry would have been expecting...
00:07:58
Zak
I think after after Coventry beat QPR like 7-1 the other week, it's a bit of a drop-off, right?
00:08:03
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hmm. Yeah. Yeah.
00:08:05
Zak
Considering, you know, ah ah Oxford are going to be a team that I think we both put them to get relic or relegated or just, I think I put them just outside the relegation zone. I just think that there's a couple other teams that might...
00:08:13
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:08:15
Zak
struggle a little bit more than them.
Oxford's Draw and Coventry's Performance
00:08:17
Zak
But it's kind of nuts that, you know, the to go from that to drawing. I don't know if it's just like celebrations, jubilation, a bit of a hangover from that.
00:08:26
Zak
Maybe quite literally. But, you know, not exactly...
00:08:30
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:08:33
Zak
I mean, they've they've still not been beaten. So I guess it's not that bad for them, right? But it's a bit of a drop from the the heights of the week before.
00:08:38
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:08:42
Zak
And I guess...
00:08:42
Global Sports Podcast Network
I mean, I guess similar to us in the Coventry are in front twice. Probably feel like they should have taken more of their chances and and, uh, put the game away, but, you know, Oxford were right in it, kept themselves in it, got the draw.
00:09:00
Global Sports Podcast Network
I think it's a brilliant point for them, if you look at the context the rest the season, and, uh, I mean, that's the interesting thing about football, right?
00:09:05
Zak
Yeah, very much so.
00:09:09
Global Sports Podcast Network
Like, anything can happen. That is why this is the best league in the world.
00:09:14
Zak
Yeah, yeah, you keep saying it. Maybe you'll believe it one day.
Wrexham's Historic Win
00:09:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
I genuinely do. Genuinely do. Uh, It's just so much more exciting, so much more fun. oh VAR disallowed a goal because it was against top six. Don't get any of that nonsense here, mate.
00:09:30
Global Sports Podcast Network
The referees might be awful, but at least you know that division, Sam.
00:09:32
Zak
if yeah At least the referees might be awful, but the game carries on that doesn't stop for the next 27 minutes.
00:09:34
Global Sports Podcast Network
Right?
00:09:40
Zak
Although ah don't i don't quite understand how in the next game, Greg.
00:09:44
Zak
I want you to i want you to open up this next game. i want you to look at the the time that the second goal was scored.
00:09:51
Global Sports Podcast Network
but Yeah. It's a lot of stoppage time, isn't it? That is, yeah. Wow.
00:09:57
Zak
Yeah.
00:09:58
Global Sports Podcast Network
I mean, something something clearly happened there.
00:10:01
Zak
The 108th minute.
00:10:01
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. the mu
00:10:03
Zak
I mean, we were waiting, to be honest, after watching against us, we've just been waiting for Keefer Moore to actually start scoring for Wreggsum. And as I said, if they start click if the team starts clicking together, they they might be doing better.
00:10:16
Zak
Like, the bear in mind that they are they are like us, but worse off, right?
00:10:19
Global Sports Podcast Network
That game actually didn't finish, Zach, until the 113th minute.
00:10:20
Zak
Because...
00:10:25
Zak
Good grief.
00:10:25
Global Sports Podcast Network
So, yeah, that went to 90 plus 23. So I'm not sure what happened there and what caused a delay of that sort of length. But that is definitely something unusual.
00:10:41
Global Sports Podcast Network
this one This game just sort of slipped completely under my radar, to be honest, this week. Yeah.
00:10:46
Zak
Well, no, like I saw that they went 1-0 up. Again, I expected was soon as soon Kiefer Moore scored, I was like, well, that's been coming for a while. right like He was very lively likely against us and seems to, as i said about Wrexham, if they start to gel, they might do better. Similar to similar to us, but even, I guess, more extreme version. Their entire squad is essentially brand new, right?
00:11:09
Zak
But it's...
00:11:09
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:11:10
Zak
I think what's crazy... Wrexham's win, their first in English football's second tier since 1981. 82 season, mate. Oh, there
00:11:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
That's... Yeah, that's crazy. It is just... Yeah.
00:11:24
Zak
you Stoppage time after keeper Danny Ward had to receive lengthy treatment for an injury.
00:11:24
Global Sports Podcast Network
Right, so there was... Yeah.
00:11:30
Global Sports Podcast Network
I did see parts of this because he was later... spotted in McDonald's in his full kit after being stretched off the pitch.
00:11:35
Zak
No, you're right. That's what I saw. I knew nothing about the game, but I did see him dressed in full kit, ordering like a Big Mac after clearly what been a bit too much time on the treatment table or something, you know?
00:11:41
Global Sports Podcast Network
but
00:11:49
Zak
Nuts.
00:11:49
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:11:50
Zak
Wow.
00:11:50
Global Sports Podcast Network
But
00:11:52
Zak
I like that that's what me and you both took out of that game.
00:11:56
Global Sports Podcast Network
look, great for Wrexham to hit the ground running there, I think. I think that we both put them somewhere in the middle of the table. I think one of us put them slightly higher than the other.
00:12:06
Zak
i put I put them about the same position that you put Birmingham.
00:12:07
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:12:09
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:12:10
Zak
Basically, both of us have have high hopes for these teams that have been, like, gotten into the championship through extremely high financial and reputational means, right?
00:12:10
Global Sports Podcast Network
man
00:12:23
Zak
I just think one's going to do better than the other.
00:12:23
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:12:25
Zak
And I guess...
00:12:26
Global Sports Podcast Network
It's going to be interesting to see how it plays out as the season progresses. Right, I think that that is a wonderful moment to take a break and hear a message from our partners at Bionique.
00:13:15
Global Sports Podcast Network
Okay, and we are back. Carrying on up the list, then, Zach. Ipswich 2, Derby 2. two Ipswich saving a point in another ridiculous amount of stoppage time where...
00:13:30
Zak
plus 16. It's that, mate, come on.
00:13:32
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:13:33
Zak
What? but I can't figure out what the stuff it was for this time round. Cause that's just like, yeah, the second half, there was some stuff that happened. It's like, and that stuff that happened resulted in like an entire game being played extra.
00:13:48
Zak
but
00:13:48
Global Sports Podcast Network
13 minutes of time, we're added on to the end of the match with Derby holding them off. It just, yeah, it doesn't say in the report.
00:13:53
Zak
No explanation as to why. Like, and this is a match that, again, fell under my radar. It's just one of the ones where I saw it was t too I saw that Ipswich essentially dropped points.
00:14:05
Zak
Nick, who I guess Greg is kind of our boss, right? he's a, he's a Derby County fan.
00:14:09
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hmm.
00:14:11
Zak
So, and expects like, again, he was, he was the one that was most adamant about us beating that points tally. So then Derby will be remembered for something, which says all you need to know about how, how Derby view their, like their own fans view the football club and how, uh,
00:14:28
Zak
Their reaction to Ben Burris and Diaz is to find lots of compilations from his season at Blackburn and be like, well, even if we get someone with a pulse, it's got to be better than what we have. And that says everything you need to know. and But I feel like it's it's got to be gut-wrenching to drop points that late in stoppage time.
00:14:46
Zak
Like, we've been there before, right?
00:14:46
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, apparently there were 13 added minutes, but they somehow played for the 16th.
00:14:51
Zak
a
00:14:53
Global Sports Podcast Network
Now I'm guessing that there was a lot of game management going on.
00:14:53
Zak
we've We've been there in Vegas Nipswitch as well. we've We've been there again ipswiite against Ipswich where something like that late has happened. you know mean say ah But But again, three games that
00:15:02
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:15:08
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, but also, like, probably good point for Derby that.
00:15:08
Zak
that's why oh
00:15:12
Global Sports Podcast Network
even Even feeling like a loss with those heart-wrenching last minute. If take that away, it's probably a good point for Derby and probably Ipswich feeling like they should have been winning that game. so
00:15:27
Zak
For sure.
00:15:28
Global Sports Podcast Network
Interesting. Moving
Bristol City's High-scoring Victory
00:15:29
Global Sports Podcast Network
on. Bristol City 4, Hull City 2 in a high goal-scoring affair. Man, that's... I've seen lots.
00:15:40
Global Sports Podcast Network
I've seen... Yeah, I mean, Hull just also not having the best of times at the moment, right? like They are struggling for sure.
00:15:51
Zak
that's that's the That's the second game this season that Bristol City have scored four goals, which is mad when you think about it. The first game against Sheffield United, which, again, was the thing that immediately put more pressure on Ruben Sallis from day one.
00:16:04
Zak
And then, obviously, up against Hull City. But, yeah, feel bad for Hullman. They started, obviously, really, really strong and managed to get a consolation prize right in the end. for that was already after they were four one down. So...
00:16:18
Zak
Yeah, ah maybe I think I should have... I think i don't know if I put Hull to be relegated. Probably should have, looking at at this point.
00:16:25
Global Sports Podcast Network
But yeah, I mean, we should we shouldn't be entirely surprised.
00:16:25
Zak
But again, they...
00:16:27
Global Sports Podcast Network
Bristol City, of course, last year did very well.
00:16:30
Zak
Playoffs.
00:16:31
Global Sports Podcast Network
And we're you know we're looking to push push on from that. So
00:16:34
Zak
Wasn't just down to their manager, the looks of it, say
00:16:36
Global Sports Podcast Network
they're just, yeah, they're putting things together and and coming up good. And I mean, they look like a force to be reckoned with. That is for sure.
00:16:48
Global Sports Podcast Network
Next on the list, Blackburn, Neil Norwich 2. Blackburn having a player as sent off Josh Sargent scoring both goals I assume this is where a lot of the noise comes about us potentially signing him but it's just I mean it's deadline day at time of recording but I'm just going to go ahead and categorically say that's not happening so is is what it is right lucky yeah
00:17:13
Zak
No, I'm sorry. He's far too much. they you know Again, unless he wanted the move, which I don't think he's that bothered by because he's like a cult hero at Norwich at this point.
00:17:22
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:17:22
Zak
And again, one of them is from the spot. And then obviously that but they managed to get another goal later on. Because as we all know, Greg, it's harder to play against 10 then. Or at least we always make it look that way.
00:17:32
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00:18:05
Zak
you
00:18:06
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Okay, next on the list, Stoke 0, West Brom 1. Baggies must be like on cloud nine at the moment. like they probably They should have beat Pompey, categorically, with those awful rough decisions.
00:18:22
Global Sports Podcast Network
And you know if that had been the case, they'd be top of the table, but... I mean, we know from experience from watching the last week that Stoke are a tough team to beat. So to so hold them off and, you know, ah ah score as early as they did and hold on, ahla that's great.
00:18:37
Zak
yeah it doesn't doesn't look like
00:18:40
Global Sports Podcast Network
Great for them. I mean, Lesnar really put themselves up and amongst it this season, which is, i mean, a shock to everyone, including Baggies fans, I think. Like...
00:18:52
Zak
but maybe but then i've got to see again like they've got they got rid of pulis for like the 274th time right so they they you know moved into more i guess
00:18:59
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Mowbray.
00:19:03
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Hmm.
00:19:03
Zak
Exciting, more slightly more exciting football again. Anything, I guess, would have been slightly more exciting, to be honest, for them. And they have always kind of been in and out the promotion spots. It's just hard for them to see it off when they come up against teams that are better.
00:19:18
Zak
you know, we'll have to see. It will be interesting to how much losing fellows affects them, if at all, to be honest. Because, you know, it didn't seem to affect them too much the other day. a Fair play to them.
00:19:28
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, look going on from from strength to strength, and I have one very happy brother in all, that's for sure. ah QPR 3, Charlton 1.
00:19:41
Global Sports Podcast Network
um um I mean, we all knew Charlton were going to struggle, I think, this year, even Charlton fans, but QPR, who got absolutely battered last week to go on and to get this result this week, it's
00:19:48
Zak
that Yeah, but I feel like...
00:19:59
Global Sports Podcast Network
It's baffling, isn't it?
00:20:00
Zak
I think coming back from that must have been difficult, right? And to come back and and then get quite a quite a comprehensive win, regardless of the opposition, is is always good, right? And obviously, Charlton had a good start, right?
00:20:17
Zak
And we'll have to see how they they go on because I think they're going to start to struggle now that transfers have all been finalised. Like I'm pretty sure it was a the transferee that came off the bench to the score for QPR, right?
00:20:30
Zak
That... ah you know, score what came off one of the people that came off the score. so it's like they are going to struggle. I think that they are going to get some sort of level of reinforcements in comparison to what the rest of the table can bring.
00:20:44
Zak
You know, you look at like Wrexham and Birmingham who have been promoted in comparison to Charlton. like, Charlton, if I remember rightly, brought in, what, like, one of our players, our ex-players, and is looking to, I think, bring in James Brea.
00:20:56
Zak
don't know if that's been dotted or teed, or at this point, at time of listening, it might have already happened, but that's not exactly, it's not exactly going to be like, wow, that's going to keep us up, is it?
00:20:59
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:21:05
Zak
I say that now, could be I could be in my words in a couple months' time, but I just, yeah, I think they are going struggle far more now that it's kicking off properly.
00:21:05
Global Sports Podcast Network
No.
00:21:15
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, definitely. i think the i mean i don't think it's going to be any surprise to them either, frankly.
Sheffield United's Challenges
00:21:20
Zak
Good
00:21:21
Global Sports Podcast Network
It was almost a surprise for them to come up in the manner that they did, and I mean, at least they've given it a go and and just, yeah, that's an interesting result. But one team who seemed to be desperate to keep Charlton in the league is Sheffield United, who have lost 1-0 to Middlesbrough.
00:21:41
Global Sports Podcast Network
Man, Ruben Seles, have you seen any positive remarks towards him at all?
00:21:46
Zak
not No, what I what i saw was a video of him going up to the crowd and the crowd screaming at him and him looking almost a little bit confused then trying to clap before eventually basically being told to F off.
00:22:01
Zak
He then wanders off and then some of the players come over and they clap for players, which I think says everything you need to know about where the opinions lie.
00:22:07
Global Sports Podcast Network
un
00:22:10
Zak
i thought I put out, I think it was... I remember if I tweeted out or I blue-skied out or whatever you want to call it, but I talked about how it was that was a bit of a weird sight sos couple of Saints links in that game.
00:22:21
Zak
Danny Ings came on for Sheffield United and didn't score, obviously. Matt Target assisted Conway's goal and obviously Sellers runs Sheffield United.
00:22:32
Zak
It's just a couple of weird ex-Saints links in that game.
00:22:33
Global Sports Podcast Network
You want to see Yeah, you want to see another Saints link, mate. Sheffield United, zero shots on target.
00:22:41
Zak
you're You're right. Like, I just...
00:22:42
Global Sports Podcast Network
Real shades of last season, right? Like, that was...
00:22:46
Zak
it's just, easy is it the way that he's got them lined up? I'm genuinely fascinated to know because, like again, I think most people's eyes went a little bit when Ruben Sellis was appointed their manager. like After Chris Wilder, like yeah, okay, they didn't win promotion. I didn't think that was enough to fire him.
00:23:04
Zak
like it's just It was a playoff. like That can go right either the roll of the dice at the end of the day.
00:23:09
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yes.
00:23:10
Zak
But when it came when it came to like replacements of people, you know, oh well, it's not like, you know, did they think Premier League pedigree? Because he wasn't Premier League pedigree because so he was given those couple of months with us.
00:23:22
Zak
We were never going to stay up, but he didn't really even do enough for us to keep him on as a manager or even playing staff. So, you know I'll always be thankful for the, I guess, the one win we got against Chelsea, right?
00:23:32
Zak
And that game against Leicester where somehow they didn't score. And that's basically all the the two games that i really remember about him being in charge other than us losing horrifically.
00:23:35
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:23:40
Zak
Yeah. And then obviously that Chelsea game essentially won him the rest of the season.
00:23:44
Global Sports Podcast Network
Thank you.
00:23:45
Zak
Right. He got, he got put in as manager and I don't really know. ah feel like just his, his career trajectory has been very strange. Like to go from asked to then Reading, then stay with Reading as they kind of got, you know, put down into league one, then move up to Hull, just about keep Hull up.
00:24:04
Zak
and then somehow get a move to what is essentially a primary league chasing club, where I think I pointed out to you before, Greg, the Octa supercomputer has given them like a 75% chance of going up, which is real funny looking at it now.
00:24:16
Zak
Like even with this many games in, this is very much like a...
00:24:17
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:24:20
Global Sports Podcast Network
Four games, four losses, minus six goal difference.
00:24:24
Zak
but... you but
00:24:26
Global Sports Podcast Network
and And it's not like, I don't think really they've played any team that if you go based off of the Opta supercomputer stats or if anyone's predictions at the start of the season, they don't really played any of the teams that you would properly expect to be beating them in that manner.
00:24:45
Zak
it's just It's just a bit weird, right? like they've they lost lost in the Cup as well to Birmingham.
00:24:50
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:24:51
Zak
they They lost their previous... like but i think what like Looking at the the stats now, they lost their last pre-season friendly against Nice. They're just not... doing very well. but buck it And I think that, to be honest, like I know that we we bought this kind of we were kind of one of those, I think both of us, I've now been really burnt by the idea of keeping a manager for too long without results, which is, maybe that'll be contradictory, depending on how the stuff with Will still goes, right?
00:25:17
Zak
Because like, we We were talking about how they were never going to fire Russell Martin. It went on forever. And looking at Rangers fans, I feel for them. I really do. Because like that that's not changing with them.
Former Southampton Managers' Impact
00:25:28
Zak
But then like we kept Juric for ages. And that was terrible. And they finally fired him when we were properly confirmed relegated.
00:25:35
Zak
And it was just like, we'd have like 30 managers. But like if you if you are four games into a season, you are expecting promotion. You have lost all of them. pretty poorly. You haven't even managed to shot on target. Like at that point, surely you just go, do you know what?
00:25:50
Zak
Actually, we we messed up. We'll go in and get someone new.
00:25:52
Global Sports Podcast Network
me Yeah.
00:25:53
Zak
It's like, when are they hoping it's going get good?
00:25:56
Global Sports Podcast Network
Mate, don't know.
00:25:56
Zak
Like after the international break?
00:25:57
Global Sports Podcast Network
I don't have the answer. It's crazy.
00:25:59
Zak
I don't know.
00:25:59
Global Sports Podcast Network
It is crazy.
00:25:59
Zak
It just, it seems a weird thing.
00:26:00
Global Sports Podcast Network
I mean, the real question is, mate, right, in in modern or in current context, for in recent memory, X Saints managers currently, right, Nathan Jones, Russell Martin, Ivan Juric, and Ruben Sellers now,
00:26:16
Global Sports Podcast Network
you think Nathan Jones gets a pass because he's going to, you know, they, the expectation is that they're going to be in a struggle this season. and And frankly, they're doing, they're doing all right to do that. But of the other three, which one lasts longest?
00:26:29
Global Sports Podcast Network
Do any of them make it Halloween? Like,
00:26:32
Zak
im I'm baffled that Russell Martin is still in the job. think just I think that the the old farm that be being nil-nil pretty much has probably saved him for another week or two.
00:26:42
Zak
But to crash out...
00:26:42
Global Sports Podcast Network
But that's because he went against his... He went entirely against his philosophy and changed up and just stopped being solid instead of, you know, doing stupid things.
00:26:52
Zak
which which if he learns from that, happy days. But I feel like he's not going to I feel like he's like, what I've taken from that is we managed to not concede that we didn't score either. So I guess we're just going to have to go back to the way we did it before because we saw it with us.
00:27:03
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:27:05
Zak
We saw it with the final for the playoffs, right?
00:27:07
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:27:08
Zak
He was able to change for that one game and then learn nothing from it. so So there's that. With Celeste, it's just, I don't know what's going on there. It just seems like you thought Sheffield Wednesday was having a worse time, right?
00:27:19
Zak
Pretty sure they're above United in the table, which... says it all. And then, yeah, you've even got, I think, Ivan Juric over at Atlanta. ah ah Lots of reactions to that being like, really? This is the guy that we've we've got?
00:27:34
Zak
And I feel like I'm not surprised.
00:27:34
Global Sports Podcast Network
well you read out What was it you read out to me before the show? His new style of pressing catching on? It's just depressing.
00:27:41
Zak
It's just, yeah, it's cool it's called depressing.
00:27:42
Global Sports Podcast Network
mean, Yeah. Yeah.
00:27:44
Zak
And like, i mean and and yeah, like, that's the thing. But also, we had our lowest points tally ever last season.
00:27:52
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:27:53
Zak
And when we got demoted the previous time, it was not exactly pretty either. So I'm not hugely surprised that managers that have left are. I'm more baffled that two Champions League teams hired our old managers in a team we got, like in a season we got less than 12 points.
00:28:09
Zak
And in fact, Juric and Martin only got one win each of the, it's just, whatever.
00:28:15
Global Sports Podcast Network
but Baffling.
00:28:18
Zak
Baffling, but it's over.
00:28:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
Right, look, Zach.
00:28:21
Global Sports Podcast Network
That's it. Well, look, that draws us nicely to a close. That is all we've got time for on this championship recap. We will be back tomorrow as we head into the international break with
Conclusion and Social Media Reminder
00:28:31
Global Sports Podcast Network
some form of content, I'm sure.
00:28:32
Zak
Thank you.
00:28:34
Global Sports Podcast Network
Thank you very much, Zach, for joining me. Thank you, everyone, for listening. Let us know on the socials what was your game of the weekend. Let us know. We are on all of them. We are on xbluesky.com Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, YouTube, if you want to see our beautiful faces while we record, everywhere, go and hit us up.
00:28:54
Global Sports Podcast Network
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