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Episode 283: Matchday Review: Narrowly beat by Liverpool!
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Southampton – What a performance! Narrowly beat, and one of the funniest refd cards we've ever seen! Lots to talk about!
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Introduction to Daily Southampton Podcast
00:00:15
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hello and welcome back to the Daily Southampton, part of the Global Sports Podcast Network. My name is Greg Elliott, and as always today, joined by my good friend and wonderful co-host, Zach Ingo Finch.
00:00:26
Global Sports Podcast Network
And Zach, where's that been the rest of the season?
00:00:30
Zak
Right, so this is this is how we end up picking up this ridiculous reputation that, like, oh, we do so much better against other are like bigger teams. And, like, yeah, like, the first three minutes of that game, was like, if you just played like that against Portsmouth, we'd have won it.
00:00:38
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
Southampton's Performance and Team Changes
00:00:44
Global Sports Podcast Network
What? We made nine changes and looked the best I think we've looked in weeks. It was...
00:00:49
Zak
Well, I think that's quite telling because literally you you asked me and we discussed last game, what do we need to do? and I'm just like bit off the entire defence apart from maybe Manning because we don't have much of a choice.
00:00:57
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. Yeah.
00:01:00
Zak
And guess what? We did that. We moved to a bat to ah to to a back 5-3, whatever you want to call it. Gillette looked really good. Better than Ross Levin, in my opinion, so far this season. But again, having a full debut against Liverpool, regardless of the the changes that they put in place, is pretty decent.
00:01:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
<unk>s
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Zak
Yeah.
00:01:19
Global Sports Podcast Network
Flynn Downs looks back to himself.
00:01:21
Zak
Fling Downs look very, very good. Armor look very, very good.
00:01:24
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:01:26
Zak
Sienza look the menace
00:01:26
Global Sports Podcast Network
But, mate,
Humorous Game Moments Discussed
00:01:28
Zak
until it's missed header.
00:01:30
Global Sports Podcast Network
the thing out of all of it I want to talk about most isn't even related to any of that because did we just witness the funniest red card in the history of football?
00:01:38
Zak
Oh, I'm glad we're just getting into the start of it.
00:01:39
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:01:42
Zak
Imagine being ah ah such a petulant child to kick the ball away out of anger you didn't get. the result you wanted in the first place. And then like in the same half of football, what forgetting that forgetting you were on a yellow car, taking off your shirt, playing up for the cameras, they'd be like, Oh, I guess I missed my game at crystal palace down there this weekend.
00:02:02
Zak
i Just, just silly.
00:02:02
Global Sports Podcast Network
Like £80 million pounds he cost them this summer and that is...
00:02:03
Zak
I think, I think it's just silliness, isn't it?
00:02:09
Global Sports Podcast Network
I mean, we talk about footballing intelligence sometimes on this show and whether you've got it or you're not, but that's just like common sense, man. Like, that is the funniest yellow card.
00:02:17
Zak
Oh, mate, that's just...
00:02:20
Global Sports Podcast Network
that There's only one other player in football. I could even think of that would get sent off for something that stupid, and that's Richarlison. Like, there's just nobody else that could see it happening to you.
00:02:30
Zak
Now, that's not fair.
00:02:32
Global Sports Podcast Network
LAUGHTER
00:02:32
Zak
If Anthony was still at Man U, that would also probably happen to him. There's There's a c couple other players I could think of that have, you know, you know, look at back at the days of Ballyetelli, right?
00:02:37
Global Sports Podcast Network
LAUGHTER
00:02:44
Zak
Like, If he was still knocking around the league now, that's the things that that I don't know where he'd be playing. But besides the point, you're you're right. it was It was a silly red card. We tried to then throw the kitchen sink at it, including Tom Fellows.
00:02:57
Zak
that i don't know if you know, Greg, he's also unavailable for this game.
00:02:57
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:03:01
Zak
They have the team sheets in front of them. I'm sorry. i know that I try to try to very much separate us as like content creators who do podcasts and stuff from, from professional
Podcasting vs. Traditional Broadcasting
00:03:12
Zak
broadcasters.
00:03:13
Zak
Right. I know that a lot of people were getting upset that like podcasters are stepping into the spaces of professional broadcasters and commentators. And I get that, but you have a team sheet in front of you.
00:03:19
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. But mean, between that and six minutes of back and forth of
00:03:21
Zak
Yeah.
00:03:25
Global Sports Podcast Network
Do I need to take him out my FPL this weekend? Is he going to be suspended? No, it's only in the cup. No, the yellows are only for the cup. Reds carry over to the league.
00:03:34
Zak
You're right.
00:03:34
Global Sports Podcast Network
I mean...
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Zak
Whilst there was still a game going on. but
00:03:36
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah!
00:03:38
Zak
yes
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Global Sports Podcast Network
like
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Zak
but
00:03:39
Global Sports Podcast Network
ah But honestly, apart from that obviously being an absolute joke of broadcasting, it also speaks volumes about how much of a joke of a cup it really is, right?
00:03:49
Global Sports Podcast Network
Like...
00:03:51
Zak
it's just, this is the problem is i like, well, I think the only reason I realistically wanted, I didn't want to have to do a Panoese.
Game Predictions and Missed Opportunities
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Zak
You text me at one point, you love Panoese because you know my long-term hatred of sitting through the pressure of penalties. I can't stand it.
00:04:08
Global Sports Podcast Network
I texted you approximately six minutes before we scored and went, I've got horrible feeling in my gut.
00:04:08
Zak
Never have done, never will be
00:04:13
Zak
do.
00:04:14
Global Sports Podcast Network
This is going to penalties. And you responded with, that would involve us scoring. And then almost in wonderful timing.
00:04:18
Zak
Yeah, I said, what it was, was a at 21 31, mate, I said, that would result, that would need us to score goals. Oh, that would, that would need us to score. And then, uh, 21 to 32, you just responded with aged log milk.
00:04:32
Zak
Uh, so that's, if anyone wants to know how, you know, and I was surprised for us to get a goal. I thought we would, that was kind of, you know, we we're seeming to score from set pieces now, which is nice because we were never to be able to do that previously.
00:04:42
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:04:45
Zak
and I guess scoring any which way is still scoring a goal.
00:04:49
Global Sports Podcast Network
I mean look we went close a couple of times right before right before McCarthy decided that he was going to assist a goal today had we had that one off the crossbar and then of maybe the most insane miss that hasn't been from Damien Downs this season
00:04:51
Zak
We did.
00:04:56
Zak
Oh, well, you know, he tried to assist later on, but he almost did, to be fair.
00:05:08
Zak
No, that was the one from Ross Stewart, remember? How many?
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Global Sports Podcast Network
I know if
00:05:12
Zak
how many how many open goals have we missed at this point? Like, this is what I genuinely think that statistically is harder for us to miss that than, you know, to to score it.
00:05:23
Zak
Like, it's nuts. The fact that we keep doing it as well is just, again, like you can, eat and that's what's even worse. Sienza, he wasn't even part of this team. it doesn't even have the mental trauma.
00:05:37
Zak
I don't know if it's the mental trauma now or if it's just pressure. Like, oh, guys, we need to start scoring goals. Like, oh, quick. oh I think that is, I think that is, I need to score at Liverpool, at Anfield.
00:05:47
Global Sports Podcast Network
i i i I think that calling it an open goal might be doing it a slight misjustice. There were two defenders between him and the goal.
00:05:56
Zak
I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Armstrong, I'd agree with you. He managed to get round and managed to hit the crossbar. it It got him.
00:06:05
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. Yeah.
00:06:07
Zak
All he had to do was go forward. He hit off the left. He headed it to the left-hand side.
00:06:11
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah i was there was ah there was ah There was a defender on the right-hand side of the goal, so I can see how it happens, right? like With the credit where credit's due.
00:06:19
Zak
And then...
00:06:20
Global Sports Podcast Network
it It was... i mean It happens fast.
00:06:22
Zak
It was the most self-acted thing!
00:06:23
Global Sports Podcast Network
I don't... It was very funny.
00:06:25
Zak
Everyone! i i te i I tweeted that out, or X'd it out, whatever you want to say. My wife, to the right of me, literally turned and said, that's such a salamid thing.
00:06:37
Zak
And then opened up...
00:06:38
Global Sports Podcast Network
And then we did the second Mo Southampton thing and McCarthy passed it to Izak.
00:06:42
Zak
Yeah.
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Global Sports Podcast Network
b
00:06:43
Zak
Yeah. That's the salamid thing, isn't it It's our... Look at this. The most incredible game of the... Wait, we're one nil down? What? like You know, Just Saints put out, like, most saints-y thing ever. Every single person was not surprised.
00:06:57
Zak
We were sad, but not surprised.
00:07:01
Global Sports Podcast Network
oh
00:07:01
Zak
Oh, it's what it is, mate.
00:07:01
Global Sports Podcast Network
but let me Look, mate, we came into the game saying that we didn't care if we won. No one's expecting us to win. We wanted a performance. We got a performance.
00:07:10
Zak
I said we'd lose 2-0. We didn't lose 2-0.
00:07:12
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:07:13
Zak
I'll take it.
00:07:14
Global Sports Podcast Network
like we We got the performance we wanted and, you know, you you said to me when we were texting back and forth in the game, throwing the kitchen sink on and I love to see it, but I also, I think I said to you, like, couldn't care less if we scored. i mean, that would mean an extra fixture. Like...
00:07:30
Global Sports Podcast Network
but
00:07:30
Zak
Well, not only that, it would be it would mean penalties. don't want to deal with that. when you know and I didn't really feel it.
00:07:34
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. No, it was...
00:07:38
Zak
I didn't feel that it was going to happen at that point. It just felt like the sting was out of it. Despite the fact they were down to 10 men.
00:07:43
Global Sports Podcast Network
Well, does...
00:07:45
Zak
As we know, it's harder to play against 10 men always. Always.
00:07:47
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. I don't know if it counts when the red card's that stupid.
00:07:48
Zak
Always.
00:07:51
Global Sports Podcast Network
I don't think you can quite galvanise behind that kind of red card, right? Like, it's just...
00:07:57
Zak
Look, again, like is he's a young guy, clearly clearly excited to be playing for the team that he's playing trying to improve his point. Clearly what's happened is ah in a split second, you can even see the moment he realises, mate, because he's taken his top off and he's running towards the camera and then he looks to like the left, sees like his teammates and suddenly goes...
00:08:16
Global Sports Podcast Network
There you go.
00:08:19
Zak
Oh, no. you can literally see, like, it's like that Simpsons episode where, like, if you watch, you can see Ralph's start breaking too.
00:08:25
Global Sports Podcast Network
If you go frame by frame.
00:08:29
Zak
Break by frame. You go back frame by frame, mate, you can see the moment he goes, it's on a yellow.
00:08:34
Global Sports Podcast Network
you
00:08:36
Global Sports Podcast Network
Right there. Yeah. Brilliant. Honestly, just the the comic relief I love from football.
00:08:44
Zak
for sure.
00:08:45
Zak
For sure.
00:08:46
Global Sports Podcast Network
My personal highlight of the game was an absolute nothing moment, but was definitely Flynn Downs just absolutely bodying a 12-year-old. LAUGHTER LAUGHTER
00:08:57
Zak
I brought into Cabrio. Like 70... Honestly, turned to Charlotte and was like, how is that even legal?
00:09:05
Global Sports Podcast Network
LAUGHTER
00:09:08
Zak
I don't you think... yeah I saw... You know how how Flynn got the... Got the the sharp end of the stick the other game. i can't remember what what game it was.
00:09:17
Zak
it wasn't It wasn't the most recent one because didn't play. The game before, we were talking about how... but Yeah, the Pompey game where he tried to take on like three players at once and got tackled. And then we were like, what are you doing?
00:09:26
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:09:26
Zak
He did that at the end of towards the end of this game as well. But like it almost played off right until he kicked it directly at a Liverpool player.
00:09:29
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:09:33
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:09:34
Zak
But it was really impressive that he seemed to us like, is he directly charging at the goal? Like, this is great. This is like a FIFA be a pro moment. It's amazing. So yeah, we had some great moments this game, Greg, but I am going to bring you back to reality after a a word from our partners at BioLeague to talk about goalkeepers and you're not going to be happy about it.
Southampton's Goalkeeper Dilemma
00:09:52
Global Sports Podcast Network
All right, mate. Let's do it.
00:10:32
Global Sports Podcast Network
Okay, mate, we are back. Let's talk about goalkeepers. Go on then.
00:10:36
Zak
Right, so you lots of points have raised. I know that you're a big, I get really mad whenever anyone says anything about Mizuno or you just, you're in the camp of, I don't understand why people think McCarthy's better than Mizuno.
00:10:53
Global Sports Podcast Network
No, right i don't I don't get mad when people say bad things about Bozunu. I just don't think I'm um'm yet to see a point made about Bozunu that I actually agree with.
00:11:05
Global Sports Podcast Network
like Like, I understand where some of them are coming from, and I potentially agree that he's probably not as good of a shot-stopper as Alex McCarthy, but he also didn't have a senior moment and pass it out to a player on the other team.
00:11:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
So...
00:11:20
Zak
but the counterpoint that lot people are making is that would he have made that save at the beginning from Isak, right? and And this is the problem.
00:11:27
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:11:28
Zak
Yeah. And this is the problem is that most people would say no. And then we'd have been one day or down from the start. So does that make McCarthy better or yeah, no, I, I am in agreement with that, but it's one of those things where you're like, yeah.
00:11:34
Global Sports Podcast Network
How can you possibly know? i mean, how can you possibly know?
00:11:41
Zak
And if I stepped on this butterfly 5,000 years ago, would I accidentally change the course of history, including the black plague?
00:11:44
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. Oh.
00:11:47
Zak
Like, how would I know?
00:11:48
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:11:49
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:11:49
Zak
Right?
00:11:49
Zak
Like,
00:11:50
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah I mean, look, I mean,
00:11:55
Global Sports Podcast Network
that If wishes were fishes, the world would be an ocean, right? So, it's part of the babies aside. Baz wasn't in the goal. Maka made a great save. Brilliant. But apart from one ridiculous ball to Adam Armstrong that unfortunately resulted in not a huge amount, McCarthy can't kick a ball to save his life.
00:12:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
Like, the he goes long, it goes out into touch, he goes short, it goes to Isaac. Like...
00:12:24
Zak
We've also had a lot of problems of when Bozzini's kicked the ball out during a lot of these early games anyway.
00:12:25
Global Sports Podcast Network
That's
00:12:29
Zak
Even if it hits one of our players, they don't seem to retain it. So does it really matter?
00:12:34
Global Sports Podcast Network
but's not his fault though, is it? but
00:12:35
Zak
No, but like I guess I'm kind in agreement with you. I don't really see what their hate is, but what I but i do agree with and what I said from earlier on in the transfer window, and I know that we've brought in this...
00:12:48
Zak
George Feller to kind of sit in the background and, don't know, play with them so they have another goalkeeper to play with. That's the wrong way to add to the training experience of goalkeeping, right?
00:13:00
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:13:01
Zak
Like, I get that. But the fact that we're having to have, like, a debate about it already and the fact that there are fans debating it already just means to me that we should have potentially gone out and made sure we had a, what I would consider to be, senior goalkeeper because it kind of just, it wouldn't have been this, it wouldn't have been like this.
00:13:20
Zak
But again, the then you've also brought up the counterpoint before of like, well, if Ramsdale would have wanted to stay, he would have stayed.
00:13:20
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:13:26
Zak
And if we could have convinced him stay, it would have been a lovely thing, but it didn't happen. And he clearly wanted to sit on Newcastle's bench instead. So what do you do?
00:13:32
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:13:33
Zak
Like, okay, well, you go out buy somebody new and then you end up with four goalkeepers or in a little bit of time, right?
00:13:34
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:13:40
Zak
And then what you do?
00:13:40
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:13:41
Zak
Send them out. There are lots of things around it.
00:13:43
Global Sports Podcast Network
So hang on a minute.
00:13:43
Zak
I just, eh.
00:13:44
Global Sports Podcast Network
We're going by Wizard of Oz rules, right? So we've got Alex McCarthy that can save a ball but can't distribute. a Baz who so boots supposedly can't save a ball but can distribute. So what would we end up with?
00:13:56
Global Sports Podcast Network
Like, I don't know, someone that's incredible at one-on-ones but, like,
00:14:03
Zak
Let's take another from Manchester United. I'm sure he's available.
00:14:09
Global Sports Podcast Network
i mean, look, don't don't think Bozunu has made any any mistakes that are properly clear-cut.
00:14:21
Global Sports Podcast Network
He should have done better there. ah ah think that I think a lot of the criticism that's been thrown about the first goal from the weekend is... It's harsh. He made the save and there's only, you know, oh well, he should have pushed it further out or not. Sorry, but when you're diving to make a save for a shot that was taken less than a second ago, ye you do what you can. And like he pushed it out. And if, you know, any one of the other centre backs had been marking properly, it wouldn't have gone straight to a striker.
00:14:52
Zak
Yeah, this is the other problem. is like the It's almost like we seem to be harsh on the goalkeeper because of the fact that defence seem to let them down all the time. So we need to have somebody better.
00:15:03
Zak
And we talked about it last season that we had it felt a lot more confident because we had Ramsdale in the sticks. And it's it's a very very harsh to sort of be like, oh, it's all Baz's fault.
00:15:09
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:15:12
Zak
And it's like we keep losing the ball in dumb positions.
00:15:12
Global Sports Podcast Network
well but yeah look but that said to see both sides of the coin right i know that we're not huge stats people on the podcast uh but it does have the lowest save percent of
00:15:15
Zak
Yeah.
00:15:28
Global Sports Podcast Network
ah ah you know versus shots against in the championship. ah ah So that does that mean anything?
00:15:32
Zak
So yeah, this is...
00:15:35
Global Sports Podcast Network
ah ah i don't think so. like I don't think any of the goals he's conceded have been something where I look at it and definitively go, now should doing better there.
00:15:46
Global Sports Podcast Network
But I can see where the questions come from.
00:15:50
Zak
yeah for sure.
00:15:50
Global Sports Podcast Network
But...
00:15:50
Zak
Is it just that expectations are too high? Is that what you think then?
00:15:55
Global Sports Podcast Network
Uh, maybe. i mean, he's still he's still only young. Like, these things are going to happen. and He's going to make mistakes.
00:15:59
Zak
Yeah.
00:16:01
Global Sports Podcast Network
But also, you know, great. He wouldn't have made that save and we'd have been 1-0 down. But also, we were 1-0 down because someone made a mistake. So, swings and roundabouts, innit?
00:16:11
Zak
Well, we just treated because we had a season of Ramsdale. Is that what it is? Because that's that's sometimes how I kind of feel a little bit. is the the like The reality to the situation is...
00:16:19
Global Sports Podcast Network
I don't know if you can call anything about last season a treat.
00:16:20
Zak
it
00:16:22
Global Sports Podcast Network
I think that that is...
00:16:24
Zak
I mean, i mean i need to compartmentalise certain things from last year, mate, able to deal with them.
00:16:25
Global Sports Podcast Network
as a stretch beyond belief, mate. I
00:16:31
Zak
The fact that we had a relatively good goalkeeper is one of them. LAUGHTER
00:16:36
Global Sports Podcast Network
mean, he still shipped the most goals in Premier League history, so imagine what it would have been like without him.
00:16:42
Zak
Yeah, and that's the questions. But yeah, I don't know what the easy answer is. The long and short of it is that we don't have add any other options for the time being, unless all three of them got injured and then we can get an emergency side in.
00:16:53
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:16:55
Zak
Unfortunately, you know, I think...
00:16:56
Global Sports Podcast Network
Mate, I think that you're forgetting the the magical option that we've not discussed that could come into play here.
00:17:03
Zak
Joe Ariba and goal.
00:17:03
Global Sports Podcast Network
And let's give... Yeah, yeah. I mean, look.
00:17:06
Zak
I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I definitely ruined your punchline, but knew what page we were on.
00:17:10
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah Yeah, exactly. That's it. It's the only position we've not seen him in yet. We've seen that he's going to come back in. We've talked about how he might not slot into this midfield and fit in.
00:17:21
Global Sports Podcast Network
Maybe that's the answer to all of our problems, mate. Joe Arevo in goal.
00:17:24
Zak
sorry. I'm just, I'm just having like, I'm just having like a bit of one of those brain moments where remembered it for, for, for, for a point randomly during last season. Am I right in thinking he was playing centre-back? Yeah.
00:17:35
Global Sports Podcast Network
He was both our top goal scorer and our starting centre-back, yeah.
00:17:39
Zak
I just, yeah, sorry. I just had to remember that was a thing. So, you know, be careful what you wish for, guys.
00:17:44
Global Sports Podcast Network
That's it. Right, look there's let's talk more about the game and I'm sure that we've got some more sparks and positivity to talk about. But first, a break and a message from our partners at Zencaster.
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00:18:23
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Effective Substitutions and Standout Performances
00:18:23
Global Sports Podcast Network
We are back. And, mate, plenty more good things to talk about. Nice early changes that seem to have an effect. Jay Robinson looked bright coming on.
00:18:35
Zak
Yeah.
00:18:36
Global Sports Podcast Network
Damien Downs also came on. Shall we took sure talk about that?
00:18:40
Zak
Are you... you
00:18:45
Zak
Is it... i don't know I just don't want to be mean. like That's my problem. is that I can understand where the criticism comes from. I guess that's all I'll say on the bat.
00:18:55
Global Sports Podcast Network
Look, we've talked about how maybe it's too early to judge, but I think we saw more of him today. And... It wasn't great, was it wasn't great was it He...
00:19:07
Zak
and does He just looks a bit lost. Like, I genuinely don't know if it's a confidence thing or what, but, like, for a man that's supposedly trying to knock on the door of getting into the US, like, national team, right, for a World Cup, I don't know what he's doing.
00:19:10
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:19:26
Zak
Like, and and it might just be that, okay, maybe he he's taking some time to develop, but i feel like, have we just signed another Ross Stewart again? Like,
00:19:36
Global Sports Podcast Network
I mean to to
00:19:36
Zak
where the ball hits him and then, then at least with Ross Stewart, maybe there's a bit movement there. But I think that he just seems very rigid. Like, everything seems sort of like the ball will come to him, hit him, and then he'll click into gear.
00:19:49
Zak
And I'm like, by that point, the ball's been nicked off of him or like his little...
00:19:51
Global Sports Podcast Network
well to maybe To maybe maybe make an excuse for him, there were a couple of times where it looked like he might have done something a bit better, but both him and Arma would seem to be playing in like the same position, which was a bit odd.
00:20:05
Global Sports Podcast Network
There were a couple of times they sort of got in each other's way.
00:20:07
Zak
Yeah, that was that that was that one, what would have been a really good ball to either of them. And then he left it for Arma to run on to.
00:20:12
Global Sports Podcast Network
and they both left it.
00:20:15
Zak
Arma left it for him to run on to. And that's where I think some of the criticism is coming in because it's like you're expecting the striker to take the ball and maybe shoot.
00:20:17
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. Yeah.
00:20:22
Zak
But he kind of seems to always try and like get the ball to everybody else other than him. And like that was, I think, the one point where he looked like he was running in and looked like he was going to try and get the ball and it just ended up coming off a Liverpool player.
00:20:34
Zak
And so, yeah, I... I don't know. I'm not going to jump to the conclusions that I've seen some people have said. Like, let's put him in the National League and he can start from there. Work his way back up. But at the same time, you know, it's not been the brightest of starts to his Southampton career.
00:20:47
Global Sports Podcast Network
Look, I'm still hanging on to a bit of hope because there is there is promise in there. His movement is good. A lot of the time. so So, hopefully...
00:20:57
Zak
With the first couple of games, we said something about Korshi in defence and today he's probably played really well.
00:21:00
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. He was brilliant. I mean, I think all of the centre-backs today were brilliant.
00:21:03
Zak
Managed to get yeah managed to get to the ball at crucial moments.
00:21:08
Global Sports Podcast Network
look Like, genuinely, I'd start that same back three at the weekend.
00:21:12
Zak
Yeah, same.
00:21:12
Global Sports Podcast Network
Like, this this this team prediction in our in our match preview is going to be really difficult because it's going to be very hard to say... Just start the same 11 from Liverpool because that was that was a quality performance pretty much all round.
00:21:27
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:21:27
Zak
I mean, arguably, if we're expecting a lot more pressure from Middlesbrough than the other teams we've played so far, not? It can't be worse.
00:21:33
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:21:34
Zak
Like... You know, and that that's him at Isak as well.
00:21:37
Global Sports Podcast Network
It's going to be...
00:21:39
Zak
So...
00:21:40
Global Sports Podcast Network
What a nice one nice problem to have, though. like People fighting and putting on performances to get in the team and it's just...
Reflecting on Southampton vs. Liverpool
00:21:49
Global Sports Podcast Network
It's good. Hopefully that we've got the proper armour, proper championship armour back and he'll get some goals.
00:21:55
Global Sports Podcast Network
You know, we saw it with the quality goal, which unfortunately meant absolutely nothing at the weekend. But, you know, him back in the mix and... Yeah, is it was good.
00:22:07
Zak
I just, yeah, just it was better than expected.
00:22:07
Global Sports Podcast Network
It was good performance. Shea Charles getting in with a goal as well. You love to see it. Like...
00:22:12
Zak
It was, I was entertained, right? After I told you this weekend, I was bored. I watched that game. I was entertained. I watched it all.
00:22:19
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:22:20
Zak
I enjoyed it all. Right up to the end, ah got mad at Liverpool.
00:22:23
Global Sports Podcast Network
And not just because Liverpool do stupid things and get sent off either.
00:22:24
Zak
Why was there mad Liverpool?
00:22:27
Global Sports Podcast Network
Like, because Saints played well.
00:22:28
Zak
Yeah, well, no, that that that's the main thing, right?
00:22:29
Global Sports Podcast Network
Like,
00:22:31
Zak
Like, it would be hilarious for the neutral to watch that. But, like, you know, and I said, could, I left and I started chatting to you before we started recording this, couple of my friends in one of the Discord chats that I'm in. And I was chatting away to them. But obviously, they're they're not big football people.
00:22:46
Zak
And it was sort of like, yeah, we lost. They're like, oh surprise, surprise. I got kind of annoyed because i was like, no, no, we lost. But we lost with like heart. And the story I said to you, which again is another Simpsons reference, is like when Gil, the used car salesman, was like, you should have seen me, honey. We almost bought a car. We almost beat Liverpool.
00:23:06
Zak
We almost drew! It was like... And that is genuinely how I feel off the back of that.
00:23:12
Global Sports Podcast Network
But look, mate, it is.
00:23:12
Zak
But it's... it's like We tried. It was good. We could have just got bad five new We could have lost 9-0.
00:23:16
Global Sports Podcast Network
Look.
00:23:19
Zak
They weren't even mentioned to my knowledge.
00:23:21
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, i mean, we really could have because, look, let's face it, even the rotated side Liverpool had out, they had Izak, who they brought in for an unbelievable blow amount of money. Chiesa, who was, what, like, player of the tournament, not the last World Cup, but the World Cup before, right?
00:23:38
Zak
who
00:23:38
Global Sports Podcast Network
like Frimpong who also got signed for a ludicrous amount of money from Germany right it was like one of the best fullbacks in German football and then they bring on 80 million pound of Eketike just to get his goal and take an early shower job done scored the winner I'm off now like like Eketike himself like cost more than basically our entire squad and we spent well this summer like Right?
00:24:07
Global Sports Podcast Network
Like, it's just... What can you do against that?
00:24:09
Zak
scott Exactly. We've just got hope the goals start coming. And if they're going to be as creative and free-flowing as that and the confidence builds we play against quote-unquote lesser sides, hopefully some more of those what look to be really good chances actually go in. And instead of consistently beating the most complicated statisticians where we stand in front of a ball and you figure out that it's actually significantly harder for it to go out than in and we decide to constantly try and put it out rather than maybe it'll go in.
00:24:42
Global Sports Podcast Network
look You know what's going to happen?
00:24:42
Zak
And if we we're making shots against the goal, it's all that is.
00:24:45
Global Sports Podcast Network
If you're following the pattern of the last season we were in the championship, we had a really similar thing, right? We had a proper like half-decent start and then we got shaky. Then we lost five games on the bounce.
00:24:58
Global Sports Podcast Network
And then we had that game against Norwich that ended up 4-4 or 5-4 or something stupid.
00:25:04
Zak
Yeah, it was 4-4.
00:25:05
Global Sports Podcast Network
stupid And maybe that's the game of the weekend against Middlesbrough. Maybe it just finishes like 6-5 or something absolutely ridiculous and that just like resets it.
00:25:16
Global Sports Podcast Network
Like,
Coaching Strategies: Past vs. Present
00:25:16
Zak
I think it will be my last point that I really kind of want to make tonight, but it is one of the things that i have bothered me where you're consistently comparing this Russell Martin side to this Will Stills side where we've talked about this before.
00:25:16
Global Sports Podcast Network
right, there we go.
00:25:17
Global Sports Podcast Network
It's all clicking now.
00:25:30
Zak
Russell Martin had a philosophy some ridiculous way. He was trying bed it into the team and he ground it into the team. It's very, very... I think that the start and the way that things are are different now.
00:25:41
Zak
I think that the squad he had... you know, available to him was probably stronger. They'd had, you know, we had more Premier League quality back then. They hadn't had the most horrific 12 points of all time season, right?
00:25:55
Zak
I think there is a lot more to work with this season. And I think that it's we should stick by the line Rome wasn't built in a day but because I'll quite frankly...
00:25:58
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:26:02
Global Sports Podcast Network
and it wasn't And it wasn't built on rubble. So but i really enjoyed that line. You're right. You're 100% right.
00:26:08
Zak
and and and so, yeah, like,
00:26:10
Global Sports Podcast Network
And look, it's like to me, I know that I keep comparing it, but to me it's the same but in reverse, right? Because that was Russell Martin trying to bed in his philosophy and the start of this season has been Will still trying to remove it.
00:26:26
Zak
Yeah, we're trying to remove that. And then also whatever Juric was doing. Remember, he was a manager for half that season.
00:26:30
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:26:32
Zak
Not that anyone thinks about it.
00:26:33
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, okay.
00:26:34
Zak
He was very sure was there.
00:26:35
Global Sports Podcast Network
I feel like Juric left his legacy when he paid a stupid amount of money for Cameroun Suleyman. What's done is done.
00:26:43
Zak
Well, he's a Champions League manager now, mate. So what are we we' be on about? What do we know?
00:26:47
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. What do we know? is he did Is he still in the job?
00:26:52
Zak
ah ah believe he's still in the job.
00:26:52
Global Sports Podcast Network
that I not following up on it mate Quick Google
00:26:56
Zak
Do what? I'll check just now so we don't leave on a... He is the head coach of Serie A club Atalanta. Still there?
00:27:06
Global Sports Podcast Network
Great, good for Alright, well Fair enough That's it mate Solid performance Didn't win, are we fuss?
00:27:07
Zak
They beat Torudo 3-0.
00:27:11
Zak
Fair play.
00:27:19
Global Sports Podcast Network
no Performance was what we were after in this game, honestly and frankly. That's not going to be enough as we head into the weekend, though. But we've got lots of time to discuss that and much more as the week continues.
Conclusion and Listener Engagement
00:27:33
Global Sports Podcast Network
Zach, thank you very much for joining me for a fun late-night recording this evening. and Thank you, everyone, for joining us and listening. We'll be back tomorrow with something Saints-related. Until then, let us know what you thought the game on all of the socials. We are on X, we are on YouTube, we are on TikTok, we are on Instagram, we are on Facebook.
00:27:50
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We are everywhere. Let us know. We love to hear from you. Like i say, we'll be back tomorrow. But until then, have a wonderful day, everyone.