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Episode 273: Reviewing the last South Coast Derby!
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Southampton – We take a trip down memoey lane to 2019, the last time we played that lot down the road. What a night, and what a game, we cannot wait for Sunday, can you tell?
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00:00:14
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hello and welcome back to the Daily Southampton, part of the Global Sports Podcast Network. My name is Greg Elliott and as always today, I'm joined by my good friend and wonderful co-host, Zach Ingo Finch.
00:00:26
Global Sports Podcast Network
How doing mate, you alright?
00:00:28
Zak
Yeah, I'm not too bad, mate. It's building up, isn't it? We're getting we're getting to it
00:00:33
Global Sports Podcast Network
It is.
00:00:35
Zak
I will want to share the anecdote, Greg, that you probably do i was going share anyway because you know me too well. But me, you, and my wife all had dreams about the Southkish therapy last day, which is a weird revelation through just like general discussions.
00:00:44
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah,
00:00:49
Zak
Yeah, that's fun. I ended up... than yours. So I guess we'll have to give, but before the our match preview, we'll have to give our dream predictions of what our actual predictions are.
00:00:59
Zak
my dream predictions, not what we really hope is going to happen, what literally happened in our dreams. Because yours was mental, especially like the bubble stuff, which you can tell happened.
00:01:05
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:01:09
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, I mean, Yeah, the what your brain does as a subconscious interpretation of a bubble match, I guess, is... It's wild, but, uh, yes, look, I mean, look, it's, it's no surprise to me that it's that deep in our psyche as we get closer and closer to, frankly, the most important game of the season, right? Like the, the tension is building. The excitement is building. You can feel it a bit out and about. And, uh, it's just, it's just good times, good times ready to be had.
00:01:43
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hopefully, this weekend. And we're going add to building to that excitement, mate, because we've got something with a bit different. We're going to do a historic match review and take a look back to the last South Coast derby a from 2019. hey. Yeah.
00:02:00
Global Sports Podcast Network
and
00:02:00
Zak
we We've done stuff like this before.
00:02:01
Global Sports Podcast Network
right
00:02:02
Zak
I remember we've gone back and like said like seen what we were up to 10 years ago ah ah gone through the games and who's still here and who's not. and I think what's most alarming, mate, is that that there are some players here which were but quite...
00:02:16
Zak
How do we still have a centre-back pairing of... Well, it's changed now, but we almost still had a centre-back pairing of Jan Benderek and Jack Stephens almost six years on.
00:02:26
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. Crazy. Absolutely insane. yeah, guess look let's start with that. Let's start with looking at the team lineups and and how they were.
00:02:37
Global Sports Podcast Network
So, yeah I mean, to reel off of a list of exciting names, Yoshida's in there. One of your favourites, I know.
00:02:45
Zak
Yeah.
00:02:47
Global Sports Podcast Network
Prowzee was in there. You know, Romelu was electric in the game. the One of the first highlights is him absolutely kicking of the Pompey players straight up into the air. That was great. I enjoyed that.
00:03:02
Global Sports Podcast Network
Him and Hoiberg, man, what midfield pairing that was, right? Like...
00:03:07
Zak
Yeah. And he's still, you know, doing bits, you know, it might be...
00:03:08
Global Sports Podcast Network
like
00:03:12
Zak
It's more... I think he... Denmark played the second international game the other day. And I doubt we'll talk about it if we if we do another international round-up, just because he doesn't play for us anymore.
00:03:23
Zak
But I saw that he, like, assisted both of their... Like, at least two of their goals from Brady's dominant win. Like, you still he's still around it, right? But, yeah, it was a so man.
00:03:34
Zak
Yeah.
00:03:36
Global Sports Podcast Network
but
00:03:36
Zak
Feels like yesterday, but yet also six years ago now. So...
00:03:40
Global Sports Podcast Network
do you Do you think in 2031 we'll be sat here doing a podcast looking back at the partnership of Shea Charles and Flynn Downs and be like, man, what midfield? Like...
00:03:51
Zak
Mate, I genuine ah genuinely don't know. i feel like at all level of predictions went out the window. Like, barely surviving as a club, then ending up sort of, you know, eighth or whatever it was, getting high finishes, ending up in Europa, and then like to where we are now, which is, you know, and really it's one of the weird things that really bothers me where, you know, had the other day, this is a brief tangent, but you know, like we were talking about football heritage.
00:04:03
Global Sports Podcast Network
Mm-hmm.
00:04:15
Zak
Yeah. And like the idea of like Jose Mourinho's football heritage being like, okay, so you're talking about something that four years ago. And when I occasionally mug off clubs and then people come to me, they're like we won this trophy, blah, blah, blah. blah I don't really ever mention the Saints FA Cup win because it's like pretty much before I was like really, it's like 20, 30 years before I was alive, right? Yeah.
00:04:35
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:04:35
Zak
And, like, my my point around the the football heritage is you only sort of remember what's most recently happened. And that is how we're treated as a club now, is that instead of ah ah a very stable Premier League team, there's a lot of people that when they, like, refer to Salabdin, they're like, oh, you're a yo-yo team that goes up and down every year.
00:04:44
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:04:54
Zak
And like, no, We're the Premier League Rangers we got about. Yeah.
00:04:58
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:04:59
Zak
But I guess that's what people remember. So in 10 years time, maybe who knows, could well be. Or alternatively, it'll be like, yeah, Salam didn't have that player for like a year and then he went elsewhere.
00:05:10
Zak
Like how Van Dijk just had a like stand named at his like childhood Dutch club, right? And I'm like, that was pretty cool. He played for us, wasn't it? But alas, back to this game.
00:05:21
Zak
But alas, back to this game, you know.
00:05:21
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:05:24
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. I mean, look, it's, uh, some, some other names on the list, I guess. Uh, I've heard him referred to as like Saints last proper natural goal scorer, Danny Ings.
00:05:36
Zak
a
00:05:37
Global Sports Podcast Network
Uh, I don't know how much credit I put in that. I don't know if you can call Adam Armstrong's championship season unnatural the last time we were in it, to be fair.
00:05:45
Zak
No, I think it's think it was because it was in the Premier League, right? I think that's probably one of the big big differences.
00:05:49
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hmm.
00:05:51
Zak
And the fact that we hoped it would be a shrewd signing from Liverpool, where ended up being a shrewd signing from Liverpool. then it kind of, like a lot of these signings that... we think goes so well. And one of the reasons I think as a fan base, we get so annoyed at situations like Matt East, right, is because all of a sudden you think are really good things happening and then it's just like completely cut from underneath you.
00:06:18
Zak
And then obviously I think at that time he was expecting to go to like a Champions League club, right? And then he ended up at Villa who were not a Champions League club at that point. And, you know, is now dosed about and it's now what?
00:06:26
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:06:29
Zak
Like at Sheffield United, think is where he's at now.
00:06:32
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, I believe so. And then his strike partner up front, mate, someone who's not a natural goal scorer,
00:06:34
Zak
all
00:06:39
Global Sports Podcast Network
And I think we described him a lot when he was playing for us as like the antithesis. like If he was in a position where you'd expect someone to score, you'd expect him to miss.
00:06:51
Global Sports Podcast Network
And if he was further out and in a position where he had no right scoring, half-time it went in. That's Shea Adams. like Yeah.
00:06:59
Zak
Oh, yeah. But like he's doing all right. like he i mued We mugged him off the other day, mate. So then he decided to go around and score for Scotland. yeah So like, hey, what the heck do we do?
00:07:09
Zak
So by way, we're just two lads at the seat at home. We do consume a lot of football content, but you know sometimes things just go like that. But it does it does show me you, I guess, how much not a lot really changed other than the sort of the manager. There's a lot of this squad that I didn't expect to be so recent.
00:07:26
Zak
you know mean? That's, I think, my biggest surprise from from who you played and who didn't, to be fair.
00:07:29
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:07:34
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. Yeah, I mean, still in our squad from this team. Alex McCarthy started in goal, and Jack Stephens was our new substitute, and obviously now our captain. So, I mean, it's crazy that there's even still some personnel.
00:07:44
Zak
Hmm.
00:07:49
Global Sports Podcast Network
I mean, Alex McCarthy must have been old even then. you would have been, what, a tender 93 something? Yeah.
00:07:49
Zak
But it's the fact that
00:07:56
Zak
I don't know where the joke is now.
00:07:57
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:07:59
Zak
I think we're in the thousands. We're going have to pull it back and just say we've we've got a little bit that major or something. But was having a look. Michael Obafemi, mate, now plays for a Bundesliga 2 team.
00:08:11
Zak
He's currently there on a season-long loan from Burnley because he's still technically a Burnley player and has been on loan the last three seasons in a row from Millwall to Plymouth to now a Bundesliga 2 team.
00:08:24
Zak
VfL Buchung. I'm like, that's what I mean. Nathan Redmond is still playing football and is a free agent. I was thinking before here.
00:08:30
Global Sports Podcast Network
I see the amount the amount of people i have seen listing that free agents list. Like, who would we take, Saints fans? Should we sign up Redmond and Romelu? And I'm like, no.
00:08:42
Global Sports Podcast Network
No, we shouldn't. Like...
00:08:47
Zak
Yeah, but like, we're we're part of the problem because the fact that I sit there, Greg, and then I'm looking up where Sofiane Buffal is now, and I'm like, oh he's playing in Belgium. Oh, Buffemi's in the German Bundesliga too.
00:08:59
Zak
at the end you And you can't say that you're not the same either, because you're like, yeah, I accidentally made an FBO team out ex-saints, and they're bad. And I'm like, no way! It's because I recognised his names.
00:09:10
Global Sports Podcast Network
You're right.
00:09:11
Zak
And you're like, yeah, but they're not with us, not because of, you know, it depends who goes, really. But yeah, Jan Valerie, another name on that list, who plays for Sheffield Wednesday. What an incredible, you know, incredible time.
00:09:23
Global Sports Podcast Network
Crazy six years.
00:09:23
Zak
and and as much, to be clear, as much as we bug off Daddy Ings, I loved him, this game. this This was the game, Greg.
00:09:29
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:09:30
Zak
This was the game where there was a lot of build-up and nerves for me because I was getting married in the November of that year. um it was really a night for me to to to like sort of let my hair down.
00:09:40
Zak
I didn't go to the game, but I watched it at home. I got a noise complaint from my neighbour. Like, like folded up and posted through the door. And I think I really took her aback by the fact that I went over and apologized. And I think that, you know how you really love those like socially awkward interactions? Yeah.
00:09:59
Zak
It's one of those sort of moments where I went, oh, I'm so sorry.
00:09:59
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:10:02
Zak
Like, it's just because of this reason. Tried to explain it. And then she was just like, oh, I really hope you would have shut up and never spoke to me again. I was like, well... You know, you did post a note and it did say a lot of loud swear words in there. And I was also saying a lot of loud swear words. But, yeah, I i remember this game extremely fondly. I remember the players extremely fondly.
00:10:23
Zak
and i know, little Cedric, who i don't even know where he is now. ah yeah Is he still at Arsenal?
00:10:29
Global Sports Podcast Network
ah ah Surely not.
00:10:33
Global Sports Podcast Network
don't I don't know, mate.
00:10:34
Zak
Yoshida put out a message as well because he said that obviously he got to play in this game and understood how much it meant to the fans and wished us all luck.
00:10:34
Global Sports Podcast Network
Look, we'll find out.
00:10:41
Zak
So it's building. It's good. But yeah, let's actually talk about the game.
00:10:45
Global Sports Podcast Network
for ael this Let's move on from lineups and get into the game.
00:10:45
Zak
I'll stop sending you on tangents.
00:10:49
Global Sports Podcast Network
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00:11:35
Global Sports Podcast Network
Okay, and we are back. let's Let's get to it. Let's talk about the game. And do you know what? Considering at the time there was a two-league gap, right?
00:11:47
Global Sports Podcast Network
It was very much coming together of two teams in very different places in their journey. Poppy came out and really gave it a go, right? like They were on top for the first 15-20 minutes. They were making a game of it.
00:12:02
Zak
Yeah, but then it was like the first 15, 20 minutes on it. And then after that, we do we just had to wait it out, right? And then, you know, as you pointed out, Romelu made a bit of a cracking tackle, probably scared them all off a little bit.
00:12:13
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah Yeah, I mean, my my notes from the game are literally Pompey are on top somehow.
00:12:15
Zak
And then after that,
00:12:22
Global Sports Podcast Network
Romero stepped up, kicked Pompey lad into Rosehead and McCarthy McCarthy made ah an incredible save from a corner. And then we go we got going and turned it into a game.
00:12:34
Zak
because it...
00:12:36
Zak
it's this a derby, right? It's going to start off that level. It's whether it ends that level is the kind of crazy thing about it. And it's like we were, I think, on bit of poor run at Form at the time anyway.
00:12:46
Zak
Like, i think we just lost to the people that tried to pretend they were our South Coast rivals at the time, which is Bournemouth, which is always highly enjoyable.
00:12:52
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:12:53
Zak
ah This is the real South Coast derby. Like, terrorism there is only one. I still remember recently them trying to make a derby out of Brighton who equally laughed at them. But I remember, like,
00:13:05
Zak
Hasenhu was really happy with it. I pulled up the the BBC Sport report for from back then and he was just like, and like it was only this is more than only reaching the next round.
00:13:17
Zak
And like, i'm glad you started with that.
00:13:20
Global Sports Podcast Network
ah
00:13:21
Zak
Because you need to understand, ah ah this is back from the hearts of fans. I'm very happy with him. I knew it was a massive game, and I think we did start the world game. The players knew they had to fight for every inch. But, man, it was like, I just for remember, after like one, after another, and after another, and it was just sort of like towards that, as the game went on, Greg, it was very much like, go for the throw!
00:13:42
Zak
We were five, six! Which is always, what a great day.
00:13:45
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:13:48
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. Mate, it's... It's great. And, look, obviously and then we scored the goal. And I've i've got in the notes, obviously Eanes gets the plaudits because what unbelievable strike and what a goal.
00:14:02
Global Sports Podcast Network
And, like, the you know the picture that we've all seen of the knee slide and celebration, but... But what I've actually written down as an observation is, like, Ings had a shot first that was saved, and Ward Prowl's put in an unbelievable effort to get up there, recover the ball, get into a position where he had space to pass it to Ings to do the rest of the work and finish it. and It's like, man, I wish that worked great.
00:14:31
Global Sports Podcast Network
I wish we had some of that worked great last season, right?
00:14:33
Zak
i
00:14:33
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:14:34
Zak
To be fair, mate, I think we we have got it and around the squad. The problem is is that we've had players like that. like you know We've seen Matty, when he was here, drive up the pitch.
00:14:41
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:14:44
Zak
And then the problem is is that when he crosses it in, it lands at the feet of either nobody or somebody that decides to put it into row Z, Z, Z, Z, Z in the top right corner of the actual stadium as opposed to the goal.
00:14:47
Global Sports Podcast Network
no yeah
00:14:58
Zak
And then... you know Or if you're if you're put if you're poor Ross Stewart, like just head it directly over the open goal in front of you. So I think that i think there's still still a chance for us to get back to beat that team. But it was a a perfect example of like when Asen who was in charge and things go well, it was it was good.
00:15:18
Zak
You got the best out of some of those players, despite recent Bertrand-related revelations about who he was as a guy. Yeah.
00:15:28
Global Sports Podcast Network
And then my next note is, I don't know if it's purely nostalgia or if it's just like recency bias because of how rubbish we were last season and basically mostly off of that.
00:15:33
Zak
and
00:15:39
Zak
okay
00:15:41
Global Sports Podcast Network
or or what, but some of the through balls that were being played in this in this sort of passage of play were just, like, truly beautiful to behold. And I don't think I see a lot of that, not even just around Saints.
00:15:56
Global Sports Podcast Network
I don't think I see a lot of that type of cutting through pass in much of the football I watch nowadays. And I wonder why that is. But... but
00:16:07
Zak
did You did like an essay on it, mate, and you keep regurgitating it constantly. so everybody who listens regularly knows exactly why that is.
00:16:16
Global Sports Podcast Network
Damn it, Pep.
00:16:18
Zak
good
00:16:20
Global Sports Podcast Network
But yeah, I'm like, man, i just I wish that we saw more of that and hopefully we will see more of that. And then in the middle of writing that note, i was like, oh, Ings was clinical with exactly one of those passes.
00:16:32
Global Sports Podcast Network
like like It came through, slid it out, he hit it and it was goal. Little dink over the keeper. Beautiful. What more could you ask for?
00:16:41
Zak
good times
00:16:43
Global Sports Podcast Network
But then even after that, right? Pompey had a couple of chances and stayed in it. They had a couple of chances from corners and and it looked like, i mean, the commentary actually said, man, Saints really need to get another one to kill this game off because Pompey are coming at them.
00:16:59
Global Sports Podcast Network
And we have to give some credit, right? Like we can't just be purely negative, can we?
00:17:07
Zak
yeah
00:17:09
Global Sports Podcast Network
All right, sold.
00:17:10
Zak
Yeah, we can.
00:17:12
Global Sports Podcast Network
okay
00:17:13
Zak
From a footballing perspective, yeah, but it's it's hard to hard to remain neutral in this fixture. But for many, many reasons, right?
00:17:19
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:17:20
Zak
Not just the fact that it's been ingrained into us from like an extremely young age that Portsmouth is both a terrible place and a terrible team.
00:17:25
Global Sports Podcast Network
Mm-hmm.
00:17:28
Zak
And the problem is is that... It's like, I can be amicable with other Portsmouth fans in the room. I can chat to them like, hell, I'll tell a story closer to Derby Day about my own wedding day that I had to deal with, right?
00:17:41
Zak
But it is one of those things, mate, where like i can't I can't look at it objectively as much as I'd like to. So I don't bother. Because if I try to look it objectively, i know I'll just then...
00:17:56
Zak
Taint it. Does that make sense? Like, I think you're maybe slightly better at disconnecting your emotions from things in comparison to me.
00:17:58
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:18:04
Zak
In all walks of life, mate.
00:18:05
Global Sports Podcast Network
like
00:18:06
Zak
That includes... LAUGHTER LAUGHTER
00:18:06
Global Sports Podcast Network
Like, that is a... on that shocking revelation to anyone who knows us. um I think we better take a break and before we move on to the rest of the game and hear a but word from our partners at Zencastr.
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00:18:40
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00:18:51
Global Sports Podcast Network
Cedric Suarez, Pounce is on one. Ings in the build-up as well involved as well, just always there causing trouble. And yeah, all I've got written down as notes for this goal are proper play, proper football.
00:19:03
Zak
Yeah, true that, man. True that.
00:19:08
Global Sports Podcast Network
I mean, it was purely Ings magic, right? Just like... making a nuisance of himself, taking players on, getting to the byline, and cuts it back, and somehow Cedric, from right back, is up inside the box, on the left-hand side of the pitch, and bangs it in, right? Yeah.
00:19:23
Zak
i think I think that's also part of what you're talking about. Sometimes what we miss is like, it's making that nuisance of yourself, which we have players that do that still, but it's like with someone like a Danny Ings, you know, he's going to be able to score.
00:19:38
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:19:39
Zak
And I think that's some of the, the threat that's been pulled out of our game. And like the upcoming Derby, perfect way for any player that wants to like, you know, put themselves back in the good books of all the fans.
00:19:53
Zak
is to do that. because If we can get them into the right positions, it's just making sure and understanding the gravity of the situation.
00:19:55
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:20:00
Zak
Because I think it terrifies me, the idea we can have a couple of players have debuts on Sunday. So who knows? But yeah, you're you're right. like let's As much as annoy that Ng's going,
00:20:10
Global Sports Podcast Network
you think Will Steele's the type of manager that like takes the slightly crazy Mikel Arteta approach just has like speakers set up around the training ground?
00:20:22
Global Sports Podcast Network
Like, this is the noise we're going to be playing in on Sunday, or do you think he's a lot more low level-headed than that? What sort of approach do you think he's taking?
00:20:28
Zak
i I feel like that's not worked for Mikhail Artes so far.
00:20:32
Global Sports Podcast Network
LAUGHTER
00:20:33
Zak
it' so So like, what's the point of doing?
00:20:37
Global Sports Podcast Network
LAUGHTER LAUGHTER
00:20:39
Zak
Like, oh, this is how you you can you can emulate that stuff as much as you like. I think that one of the reasons that I'm quite fond of still is the fact that he is very down to earth and he is very much been aware.
00:20:42
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:20:51
Zak
even talked about his first interview. The first thing they said, like, he got the taxi. He was like, you've got to be pumping. You know that, right? Like, I think that his, his, his, it's like, Hey guys, we need to win this game. I don't care how, I don't care why, i don't care what you need to do to win this game. You need to win this game. And
00:21:08
Global Sports Podcast Network
We come out with a 3-0 victory in 11 suspensions, that's still an important victory. Yeah. Yeah.
00:21:15
Zak
yeah, like again, like my, my, my bigger fear more than anything, mate, going forward is the injuries that we're going to pick up.
00:21:21
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:21:21
Zak
I don't think we picked any up this game. Right. So my knowledge, right. i can't see I can't see any like part of any of these... I can't remember any part being like the the game was unfortunately overshadowed by like the removal of Shane Long's leg or something like that, right?
00:21:37
Zak
like it wasnt
00:21:37
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:21:38
Zak
and was it wasn't that... and nothing dramatic like that happened.
00:21:39
Global Sports Podcast Network
there were some proper There were some proper tackles, but nothing more.
00:21:43
Zak
Yeah, but you'd expect that. It's derby. you'd be You'd be annoyed if they didn't. like
00:21:49
Global Sports Podcast Network
And then, anyway, look coming back to the last note I've got on the actual game itself, mate, Redmond scores his best goal for Southampton, arguably.
00:22:00
Zak
Probably.
00:22:00
Global Sports Podcast Network
Maybe not arguably. I don't know. i thought I think it was...
00:22:02
Zak
Memorable, isn't it?
00:22:02
Global Sports Podcast Network
a Yeah. I mean, I don't remember him scoring any other goals that were that good.
00:22:09
Zak
she
00:22:09
Global Sports Podcast Network
frankly. Like, it was unbelievable. He just, out of nothing, created it himself, did all the work, buried the ball in the net against Pompey. What more can you ask for? Right?
00:22:19
Global Sports Podcast Network
Like, what way to... and some of some of our current team are just, are like, on the verge of making themselves absolute heroes on Sunday, right?
00:22:29
Global Sports Podcast Network
Like,
00:22:29
Zak
Yeah, but that's that's that that's the, like, there's there's a lot of fear and anxiety and and thinking about it because, like, if it wasn't the case, we wouldn't be having, like, weird dreams that are trying to sort it out, right?
00:22:42
Zak
My wife wouldn't be getting second-hand dreams from how much I'm talking about it and thinking about it and and how half of the social media feeds that I have open any given time have just got people taking the mick out Portsmouth fans and then vice versa and then our fans throwing it back.
00:22:56
Global Sports Podcast Network
it's not it's not It's not just like our fan base either. like All of the like football transfer websites and footy news websites like, stuff's building, something's going to happen, it's going to be a big one.
00:23:02
Zak
Yes.
00:23:09
Zak
Because also, this was a big difference where this that was a cup game. This is in the league as well, right?
00:23:14
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:23:14
Zak
And now that's that's a big difference. And I think that when you discussed, oh, what game should we do? i was like, well, let's go to most recent memory. but But obviously, the early the the downside of that is the fact that it's and it's a cup game. So...
00:23:27
Zak
it was not really about getting through the cup, even as Hassan, who you pointed out, it was about beating Pompey. And like, you know, if, if we end up going up and winning, or getting second place by three points at the end of the season, this is the game they'll point to.
00:23:34
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hmm.
00:23:39
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hmm.
00:23:42
Zak
Right. And it's, I think we've discussed it before. Like originally, I don't know how I feel, if like the worst comes to worst happens, but it's the understanding of how important this fixture is.
00:23:54
Zak
And and if if the mentality that hopefully is growing with i both the new players and the old players that are still here, it would be a such a huge win to get.
00:24:05
Zak
a victory out of this game, right? And, like, looking back at the last time we did it, and I'm not going to say with ease, like, Portsmouth gave it a go, but clinically we we we scored four goals, mate, like, in their own backyard after, you know, drama such as Luna the horse ah take take in a taking a bit of fisticuffs to the face, you know, like...
00:24:19
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:24:29
Zak
absolutely, you know, people would, I was listening to a completely separate true crime podcast that's talking about mad news stories that they read the other week. And they mentioned that incident, but I couldn't remember why. And I was just like, no matter what I do, what I think of and hear of now is the South Coast Army until it's done.
00:24:46
Zak
And not only that, mate, it's not the only one happening for the next 20 years. This is going to happen again.
00:24:51
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:24:51
Zak
This, this like, you know, with it within the next six months, it's insane.
00:24:52
Global Sports Podcast Network
we All two again this season. But, I mean, after these two, home and away, it could be the only one for the next 10 years, right? Like, that's completely in the realms of possibility from from how crazy the championship, frankly, from either way.
00:25:03
Zak
Yeah.
00:25:05
Zak
Yep.
00:25:09
Global Sports Podcast Network
Nothing's guaranteed at all. We could go up. We could go down. They could go down. it's It's crazy. We're not...
00:25:17
Zak
Oh, sorry. like I felt like a visceral shudder then.
00:25:17
Global Sports Podcast Network
but know well
00:25:21
Zak
Like, We're not looted.
00:25:22
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but I'm not saying it's going to happen.
00:25:23
Zak
we not listen you're not listen
00:25:23
Global Sports Podcast Network
I'm just saying.
00:25:26
Global Sports Podcast Network
Look, it's fine. We're going to win the league and our undefeated gate streak of the season starts on Sunday. It's fine, mate.
00:25:33
Zak
That's fair. That's a great guy.
00:25:34
Global Sports Podcast Network
Let's bring it back to the normality that we expect, the level-headed approach from this podcast.
00:25:35
Zak
But
00:25:40
Global Sports Podcast Network
Thanks.
00:25:40
Zak
it's, yeah, I just looking back at that game, it it shows you both how far we've come, how far we've fallen, how different everything is, but also how the same everything is.
00:25:55
Zak
Alex McCarthy potentially starting a goal again, six years down the line is insane.
00:26:00
Global Sports Podcast Network
not happening.
00:26:00
Global Sports Podcast Network
Baz is going to be first choice.
00:26:00
Zak
Do you think they're going to...
00:26:02
Zak
Yeah, but Baz used to play for Pompey. He's like one of the he' like the only player in the last like, what, 15 odd years that played for both clubs because the rivalry is that vicious.
00:26:10
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:26:12
Zak
Could you imagine, like, could you imagine, though, like a Southampton player now going over to play to Portsmouth? Like, like the whole Ipswich-Norwich thing, right? The guy who went over from Norwich to Ipswich.
00:26:21
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hmm.
00:26:23
Zak
I just don't think that could happen between our clubs, like, ever. And again, that that's a testament to, so I guess, how important this derby is. And again...
00:26:31
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, I mean, I guess Baz gets away with it, right, because it was only a lone spell, so it's... Yeah.
00:26:38
Zak
get gets so Well, he wasn't our player at the time, right? He was on loan from City.
00:26:41
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:26:43
Zak
So I guess, but it's still weird.
00:26:43
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:26:45
Zak
And I still think it would be weird to put... ah ah I don't know. We'll have all of that in our match preview, mate. But this is a a review of a match now almost but five and a half years ago that was you know incredibly instrumental into...
00:27:01
Zak
how we're going to feel we'll going into Saturday, Sunday, Sunday, still throwing me off. So yeah, don't know, Greg, it's a blast from the past.
00:27:12
Zak
How many, how many things have changed?
00:27:12
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Mate, I am...
00:27:13
Zak
How many things are different? Oh,
00:27:15
Global Sports Podcast Network
The more things change, the more they stay the same, mate.
00:27:18
Zak
sure
00:27:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
That's what they say. But look, I'm so excited. i can't wait. Two more episodes. It's like... but I don't know. It's bit like Christmas. that I don't know.
00:27:28
Global Sports Podcast Network
I'm just... I'm bouncing. I'm physically bouncing at the excitement of the game. It's... It's hard to explain, but look, we are, we'll be back tomorrow with another episode. We're going take a look at our saints who have been away on international duty and have a look through how they've got on and continue to build towards the most important game of the season for sure.
00:27:50
Global Sports Podcast Network
Thank you, Zach, for joining me.
00:27:52
Zak
Thank you, mate.
00:27:52
Global Sports Podcast Network
and Thank you everyone for listening. Hope you enjoyed this trip down a wonderful memory lane to that wonderful 4-0 bat ring. Thank you very much.
00:28:03
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00:28:19
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