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Episode 274: Saints on international duty!
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Southampton – We take a look at the saints who have gone away to play for their countries and see how they have fared in this international break!
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Podcast Introduction & Host Banter
00:00:15
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hello and welcome back the Daily Southampton, part of the Global Sports Podcast Network. My name is Greg Elliott. And as always, today, joined by my good friend and wonderful co-host, Zach Ingo Finch.
00:00:28
Global Sports Podcast Network
How you doing, mate? You alright?
00:00:29
Zak
Yeah, I'm not too bad, mate. I'm too bad. I'm just ah ah counting down to the weekend, realistically.
00:00:34
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, I'm... Look, I'd love to say that I'm bouncing, but I just don't think I've quite got the energy for that today. But that's fine, mate, because... You know, been keeping up with some international football I have to and exclusively where I have to, it has to be said.
00:00:51
Global Sports Podcast Network
a I'm following some some Saints as they're off on international duty, mate. So I thought we'd have a run through and see how they got on.
Surprising International Football Results
00:00:59
Zak
It's just been but a crazy few results. And my favourite thing is when you were doing some of the... You were getting some of the information together for this episode. I was throwing out results from all of the other games that you've not watched. Like Norway being Moldova 11-1. And you're like, what?
00:01:17
Zak
Which shows you how much attention you really do pay. Or the fact that Bolivia beat Brazil. And it had members of the team crying. It's crazy. Like proper...
00:01:28
Zak
proper crazy stuff. And you're just there like, oh yeah, I never saw any of that, which is bad to me. But I guess that it shows you how, you know,
00:01:37
Global Sports Podcast Network
Just how my brain works, mate. I can't help it. I'm not
Southampton Players on International Duty
00:01:41
Global Sports Podcast Network
generally switched on to international football at all. I did watch some of the England game, which was quite good the other night. It was nice. Nice five no win. I feel like you you watched the first England game and I watched a second game and I definitely got the better deal.
00:01:54
Zak
Oh yeah, 100%.
00:01:54
Global Sports Podcast Network
So...
00:01:55
Zak
I skipped it because of that reason. and then And then my phone died last night and I woke up to a WhatsApp from you that was like, oh mate, this is a banging game. And you walk in, talk yourself through it.
00:02:08
Zak
I was like, wait, what? Check the news. I was like, are for real? Are you for real that skipped the game that was actually really good and watched the really, really bad one? And I don't know. That's exactly what happened
00:02:17
Global Sports Podcast Network
they just They were a bit saintly. They just stepped up when the opposition stepped up. That's all it was. It's...
00:02:24
Zak
hey guys ah ah I hate that that is a thing we are known for because we could be known for so much more, but hey-ho is what it is.
00:02:32
Global Sports Podcast Network
All right, well, look, let's get straight into it and talk about the Saints internationals who are away. So let's start with the shining star of this season, undoubtedly, who's going to be Jay Robinson breaking through.
00:02:44
Zak
Hmm?
00:02:45
Global Sports Podcast Network
He went away with the England under-19s and partook in three games on an international break, which is nuts. That is a lot of games. Absolutely.
00:02:53
Zak
That's right.
00:02:56
Global Sports Podcast Network
He played as a sub for the last 30 minutes of a 2-0 win over the Ukraine under-19s. It was already 2-0 when he came on, so he didn't get involved with goals, but it's all minutes, isn't it?
00:03:07
Zak
Mm-hmm.
00:03:08
Global Sports Podcast Network
He played 70 minutes in and as a starter in the 3-0 draw against Spain. and This is for where they start their qualifying run for the Under-19s World Cup next year. And so that's a decent result, a 3-0 draw. And then he played the first half in a 4-1 win over the Netherlands, which I don't think guarantees them qualification, but like really sets it so that they're in a really good position to qualify for the World Cup.
00:03:38
Global Sports Podcast Network
So that's good.
00:03:38
Zak
Yeah, I don't is it similar on the qualifications to, like, the normal World Cup, do you know?
00:03:42
Zak
Because I don't know if they changed the under-19 to, like, under-21s World Cup when they changed the format of the World Cup. Like, did they also add, like, 64 teams in total or whatever?
00:03:54
Zak
But, like, I think that says a lot more about how little we all kind of pay attention to, well, not all of us, but at least me and you, attention to sort of younger international football, right?
00:04:06
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. And in fact, to show you how much attention didn't pay and got it wrong, mate, it's not even the World Cup, it's actually Euros.
00:04:14
Zak
so
Podcast Partner Break
00:04:17
Zak
Journalistic integrity at its Sometimes you make a mistake.
00:04:17
Global Sports Podcast Network
But...
00:04:20
Global Sports Podcast Network
Do you know what, mate? I'm going to leave it in because it just shows that the research is not always straight.
00:04:27
Zak
It's fine, Greg. Let me show a bit. That's all that matters.
00:04:32
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah yeah So next year's European Championships, I don't think they're quite officially qualified yet, but I think it's as good as at this point, which is a just good.
00:04:41
Zak
Nice, nice.
00:04:43
Global Sports Podcast Network
Next up, Shea Charles was a big talking point in his games for Northern Ireland. He scored his first international goal in a 3-1 win against Luxembourg.
00:04:50
Zak
Yes, I did hear about that and saw that his manager was very pleased and that could only be a good thing for us. Well, what is it is it bad, Greg, that whenever this kind of stuff happens and our players get to the stage, I'm like,
00:05:05
Zak
in the world. I'm always worrying like, oh no which team has now seen our player and has decided that they they are going to be bought within the next sort of 12 to 18 months, you know?
00:05:09
Global Sports Podcast Network
Too many eyes.
00:05:17
Zak
But no, it's really, really good for him. I'm really happy for him. Well-deserved.
00:05:21
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, he also played a full 90 minutes in the 3-1 defeat to Germany, which, I mean, it's not really anything to be ashamed of, Germany. Obviously, a considerably tougher opponent than Luxembourg.
00:05:35
Global Sports Podcast Network
But, yeah, shows that he's making himself an important part of that team.
00:05:36
Zak
Yes.
00:05:41
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, like you say, it can only be a good thing and can only do his confidence the world of good, right? Like...
00:05:46
Zak
Yeah, for sure. I'd like... its If you've been hoping to kind of make gains, like your first international goal is always going to be a big deal, right?
00:05:58
Zak
As well as your first cup, if you're a goal scorer, that is, but, or an outfield player.
00:06:00
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:06:04
Zak
But yeah, no, it's, I think it's fantastic news for him. Fantastic news for us. Happy days.
00:06:09
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, good stuff. All right. Look, two in. I think it's a a nice
More International Player Highlights
00:06:13
Global Sports Podcast Network
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00:06:57
Global Sports Podcast Network
Okay, and we are back. Okay, right. Carrying on down the list that I've got in front of me, Joshua Kwasi playing for the German under-21s.
00:07:09
Global Sports Podcast Network
He played 45 minutes in their friendly against Albania, which was a 2-0 win, and got booked for a foul.
00:07:15
Zak
Nice.
00:07:18
Zak
In a friendly, good job, mate.
00:07:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
as many of these gay like right As with many of these games, i obviously didn't like what like Finding streams of youth football is hard. But ah this game had live commentary, so I was sort of scrolling through and reading, and the only time I saw his name mentioned was about four times.
00:07:27
Zak
Yeah.
00:07:36
Global Sports Podcast Network
It was Joshua Kwasi commits a foul. Joshua Kwasi commits a foul. Joshua Kwasi commits a foul. Booked. Like, okay, I see what's happening here. but
00:07:47
Zak
Incredible.
00:07:49
Global Sports Podcast Network
And then he played all 90 minutes in a... qualifier against Latvia uh a decisive 5-0 win uh where he missed a header from close range in the first half uh that was like the main that was his only mention uh in the live commentary no uh no fouls in that live commentary at least so uh yeah decent again you know shows that he's a part of that team and a solid part of that team to be playing 90 minutes in the the important games it's uh
00:08:01
Zak
Nice.
00:08:21
Global Sports Podcast Network
only be a good thing for us as well.
00:08:23
Zak
Sure, I agree.
00:08:26
Global Sports Podcast Network
And then moving on to Damien Downs with his track record away with the USA. he yeah
00:08:35
Zak
Yeah.
00:08:37
Global Sports Podcast Network
He was an unused sub in the 2-0 defeat against South Korea, which I didn't write down, but I did remember, so it's all right.
00:08:43
Zak
South Korea, right?
00:08:47
Global Sports Podcast Network
And And was, it came on in the 79th minute against Japan, which they won 2-0.
00:08:56
Zak
Yeah, he replaced he replaced the goal scorer, right?
00:08:57
Global Sports Podcast Network
myda
00:08:59
Zak
I kept i paid attention to this game because saw Sugawara played for Japan as well, whilst is technically a load player for us, considering his big old goodbye, i don't ever expect to see back, if I'm totally honest.
00:08:59
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:09:15
Zak
But also, former Saint Takumi Minamino also so played the that game. If anyone so forth anyone's keeping track. So yeah, replace the goal scorer. Obviously, it's always difficult to do unless you're going come on and score yourself.
00:09:28
Zak
And obviously, I don't think he really got a chance to do much, right? It was like 10 minutes.
00:09:32
Global Sports Podcast Network
you Yeah, I mean, it's hard to bed yourself in as a striker when you come on that late in the game. or a line I don't think it's reasonable, especially if you're already 2-0 up. It's not like you're being brought on to be an impact sub or anything. like it's i think a really tricky one. But, you know, getting minutes in the international picture can only be a good thing. Hopefully a boost of confidence.
00:09:56
Zak
for sure
00:09:56
Global Sports Podcast Network
I mean, said it before, say it again. like his movement, like his work rate, really need come. I hope that we see it play out for him.
00:10:04
Zak
i saw I saw some people mentioning, i can't remember if it was some people, or like an article somewhere, like, oh, he's going to have to do more because Pochettino's worried about him and he might not end up making the World Cup squad.
00:10:05
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:10:16
Zak
site I'm just like, it's all tough. He's been picked. He came on. Those are all positives, right?
00:10:20
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:10:21
Zak
Like, sure.
00:10:22
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:10:22
Zak
I think that nobody more than Damien Downs wants to start like scoring goals to solidify his place, right, in his international team you know andnie's and his club.
00:10:27
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:10:32
Zak
So, yeah I'm glad to see it.
00:10:34
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, lot look we talk a lot about the confidence game in Strikers in particularly, and I'm going to take off on a massive tangent here, but i was watching, Zach, the interview with Charlie Austin on the Under the Cosh podcast, and he was telling the story of his infamous, like, Park Life interview, where he, like, completely lost his head, and he was like, i just, like, I was already a bit annoyed, I really wanted a goal, because it had been a while, like, that's just the mentality that the Strikers have, right, like,
00:10:45
Zak
Oh, really?
00:11:03
Global Sports Podcast Network
The longer it is between goals, the more it plays in your head. And sometimes you just need to get out of your own way and get that goal to for it to start flowing naturally.
00:11:10
Zak
i I feel like the only the only way that that didn't, the only place that that didn't really work, where it didn't actually matter, was our was us with Shane Long, right? Like, Shane Long went like a year without scoring a goal and then just scored a goal.
00:11:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:11:22
Zak
But I don't think that that meant his contribution wasn't, you know, positive for the entirety of the time because...
00:11:26
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, it's because what he bought was work rate and the press. Like, he would just run for days and days and days.
00:11:32
Zak
Well, it worked once, right?
00:11:33
Global Sports Podcast Network
And I think, yeah, exactly.
00:11:34
Zak
Fastest goal in the Premier League, like 0.8 seconds or eight seconds, was
00:11:38
Global Sports Podcast Network
And look, I think that with Damien Downs specifically, he just needs to keep doing what he's doing. And I think that he's going to get more of a chance to do it if he gets minutes with us.
00:11:50
Global Sports Podcast Network
now that we've got slightly more creative options behind him. Because, we like i said like I said when I saw him, he makes all of the right movements and then gets frustrated that nobody's playing in the ball.
00:11:53
Zak
Hmm.
00:12:00
Global Sports Podcast Network
So, yeah you know, it takes two or three times of these things clicking together, and all of a sudden we've got, like, a hell of a unit and hell of a threat. So there's potential there, and I hope that that is enough to keep him...
00:12:16
Global Sports Podcast Network
in and amongst it in international terms, because like you say, that can only be good for us, even if it's only for a profit.
Ireland's Mixed International Results
00:12:23
Global Sports Podcast Network
That's a sad thought. All right, mate.
00:12:27
Global Sports Podcast Network
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00:12:55
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If you're ready to tell your story, check out the link in the show description and learn more about Zancaster. Alright, mate. And, uh... Yeah, like I say, three of our players away with this one, with the Republic of Ireland, and, uh... I mean, a couple of really interesting games, right? So, uh...
00:13:13
Global Sports Podcast Network
But Zunu was an unused sub in both of the games, unfortunately. But in the 2-all draw against Hungary at the start of the week, Manning played the full game and got the assist for the 93rd-minute equaliser.
00:13:27
Zak
Yes, I did see, once again, Proven likes to let go and likes a...
00:13:27
Global Sports Podcast Network
So...
00:13:33
Global Sports Podcast Network
Like, just Ryan Manning things, right? Free kicks and 93rd-minute goals. It's just... Just putting the ball in the mixer with some unbelievable deliveries and being about... I he yeah really feel like he's one of the players that like most exceeded expectations so far.
00:13:53
Zak
Oh, yeah, 100%. hundred percent I think that Roy Manning is one of the ones where the way... with I know that you said you'll miss James Bree, right? And James Bree's done some good service for us.
00:14:02
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hmm.
00:14:05
Zak
But it was it reminded me very much of a James Bree sign-in. James Bree was brought in as the guy who worked with Nathan Jones, right?
00:14:14
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:14:14
Zak
And ironically, he's now gone back to Nathan Jones. So now we'll cement his status as a Nathan Jones guy.
00:14:20
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:14:20
Zak
Manning was brought in as a Russell Martin guy, played under him at Swansea, was there on a free agent. you know we We picked him up. We didn't expect him to do great in the Premier League. In fact, we barely expected him to play at all.
00:14:32
Zak
Played right. Was probably one of the...
00:14:34
Global Sports Podcast Network
I mean, he was well it was one of the more consistent players, right? Like, solid six to seven out of ten every game.
00:14:37
Zak
yeah
00:14:41
Zak
Yeah, and now he's done, he's started to do bits, and you know then you have that that crazy period at the beginning of the transfer window where, for some reason, he was being linked to Rangers, which, again, i don't think you need to understand the politics of it all to know that no Irish player will play for Rangers.
00:14:44
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:14:59
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:14:59
Zak
But it's because he was Russell Martin's guy, but has proven to be able to adapt and slot himself into pretty much any of the managers and any of the teams that he's he's been in.
00:15:09
Zak
And yeah, long Long may it continue and to see him do well on the international stage is always good as well.
00:15:15
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. Also in that game, Finna Zaz played 79 minutes. And again, just, you know, proof that it's a piece of international quality that we've brought in. Like a mainstay in that team playing sort of huge amounts of minutes. And yeah, good, good stuff.
00:15:33
Global Sports Podcast Network
And then not a, not as exciting of a game for the Republic of Ireland. In a result that the BBC described as the worst result in the Republic of Ireland's history, lost...
00:15:47
Global Sports Podcast Network
I didn't write the result down, but it was what?
00:15:49
Zak
it' two It was 2-1 to Armenia, and Spursian scored a penalty in the 46th minute of the game in the extra time the first half.
00:15:52
Global Sports Podcast Network
That's right.
00:16:01
Zak
say So, yeah, that's fun for Saints fans, right? but
00:16:05
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:16:07
Zak
Woo!
00:16:08
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, and look I mean, that's really yeah hurt their chances of qualifying for the World Cup.
00:16:20
Zak
Yeah, just a little bit.
00:16:20
Global Sports Podcast Network
One of the competitions. Yeah, like it's not but great. It's a real shame. Ryan Manning did play for 81 of those minutes and Finnaz has played 70.
00:16:33
Global Sports Podcast Network
So again, just sort of in and in amongst it. but But yeah, maybe the less said the better about the result of that game for for them.
00:16:40
Zak
so it does sometimes it doesn't go your way, right? Like you can have a really solid game four and then, you know, it it depends.
00:16:43
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:16:47
Zak
though There's lots of people picking a pi picking it apart, talking about the contract of the manager and this, that and the other.
00:16:49
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:16:53
Zak
And, you know, and he kind of has taken responsibility quite rightly for picking the team. and But at the same time, is it is what it is.
Concluding Thoughts & Listener Engagement
00:17:00
Zak
Bad for Ireland. I don't know whether it's good for us in the long run or not because we won't potentially have a bunch of people at the internationals.
00:17:08
Zak
Yeah. is what it is. i would just just have to ah Hopefully it won't knock their confidence too much before I consider to be their most important game of the season.
00:17:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:17:19
Zak
Yeah!
00:17:19
Global Sports Podcast Network
And, uh, look, that's it, mate. That, that wraps up my notes on, uh, Saints travels, uh, for international duty and wraps up the, the international break. And, uh, I think I speak for almost every football fan when I say, uh, thank God, right?
00:17:36
Global Sports Podcast Network
Bring back a football, please.
00:17:36
Zak
yeah But it's, yeah, like, I think, i think ah but as opposed to watching it, mate,
00:17:39
Global Sports Podcast Network
I
00:17:43
Zak
As opposed to watching it mate, like I've just enjoyed some of the some of the some of stuff going on around it. like Like Steve McLaren being in charge of Jamaica. That's been really fun. i don't know if you've seen that. If you've not, my recommendation is just to look at any of the media around it and then try to teach him Jamaican slang.
00:17:54
Global Sports Podcast Network
was not.
00:18:00
Zak
Hilarious. Argentina and Brazil both lose it in their World Cup qualifiers to teams that they would be expecting to beat, both you know Ecuador and Bolivia. It's kind of crazy, right? And then again, like this battering of Moldova.
00:18:16
Zak
I don't know how you managed to miss all of that, but there we are. And, you know, pretty much...
00:18:25
Global Sports Podcast Network
Very, very narrow glasses when it comes to international duty and very much focused on all of the other sports except the football, I think is the problem.
00:18:25
Zak
Yeah,
00:18:35
Global Sports Podcast Network
Just too busy like doing research and thinking up and having dreams about the South Coast Derby, that's all it is.
00:18:36
Zak
that's fair, mate. That's fair.
00:18:42
Global Sports Podcast Network
Just like so excited.
00:18:42
Zak
we always speaking Speaking of which, anyone anyone that's anyone's got video, that came today. so I'm going to try and read at least some of it. try guys maybe Maybe I'll get something out by Saturday. i guess I guess we'll find out.
00:18:54
Zak
I guess we'll find out. We'll put we'll put my ability to to read as quick as I did over 15 years ago into the test. but Let's try with that.
00:19:04
Global Sports Podcast Network
but wait that's That's it. like You're right. Wraps up the international break, heading into now the most important game the season. is it Is it a bad time to say, Zach, that historically we don't tend to do well we coming back from international breaks?
00:19:18
Zak
Yes. That's a terrible time to say that.
00:19:20
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, just throwing that match out there.
00:19:22
Zak
Doesn't matter. Mate, mate, mate, mate, mate.
00:19:25
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:19:27
Zak
Records like that are there to be broken, right? That's what you need to remember, okay?
00:19:29
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:19:31
Zak
Records like that are meant to be broken. You know, they they they know how important it is. I think that part of that was the amount of players we also used to have on international breaks as well, whereas I think it's not as much of an issue nowadays.
00:19:41
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:19:45
Zak
It's good.
00:19:46
Global Sports Podcast Network
I mean, still still seven players away. Still...
00:19:48
Zak
Yeah, no, I know, but there's still been, that you know, but that that might so tell you more about who you might be expecting to play.
00:19:55
Global Sports Podcast Network
Well, I mean, i don't know, because I think all three of the ones who are away with the Republic of Ireland are probably in the starting line-up that I would get.
00:19:55
Zak
What do I know, mate?
00:20:03
Global Sports Podcast Network
So... So I don't know.
00:20:05
Zak
We'll talk about it more tomorrow, mate, but I'm still convinced that McCarthy, you know, McCarthy played in 2019, McCarthy might get again play in 2025, so...
00:20:14
Global Sports Podcast Network
Oh, Zach, are you determined to upset me? Is that where we're at? a It feels like we're just out to upset each other, throwing out like wild accusations and stats like this. so I don't know don't know if this is the the mood we want to set heading into this game.
00:20:28
Global Sports Podcast Network
oh Yeah, you're right.
00:20:29
Zak
but late The mood will be set tomorrow and we'll have a great time and then it will but will be what it will be on the Sunday, right? And then hopefully it's a good result.
00:20:36
Global Sports Podcast Network
That's it. look i um I'm still very excited, but that that is all that we have got time for today, and tomorrow is the big one. Tomorrow is the match preview of the you know the biggest game of the season.
00:20:50
Global Sports Podcast Network
We can't wait. Let us know in the socials. Did you watch any of the internationals away or break? Any standouts for you? Anything you're looking forward to seeing from our players coming back off international duty?
00:21:04
Global Sports Podcast Network
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00:21:19
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hit us up, let us know. We'd love to hear from you. And, mate, the excitement builds. That's it. That's I've got. Thank you, Zach, for joining me. Thank you, everyone, for listening. We'll see you tomorrow.
00:21:31
Global Sports Podcast Network
We hope you have a wonderful day.