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SUMMER ROAD TRIP - Massachusetts & Michigan

E18 · TwistedTales: a True Crime Podcast
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Summer Road Trip continues with an exiting twist for the fourth of July! 

Michigan (3:02 - 30:33) Lisa is taking us down a dark web rabbit hole in the story of Wendy Lynn Wein and this is a story you have to hear to believe!

Massachusetts (30:40 - end) Faith is telling us a 4th of July story from Cape Cod where a drifter / serial killer is causing havoc for a new town sheriff who is fighting to get warning in time to the tourist driven town.

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Independence Day Greetings

00:00:04
Speaker
Well, hello. Happy summer. Happy almost fourth. Almost fourth of July. Almost fourth. This episode will be airing 4th of July week-ish. So there you go. For those of you in the United States, happy Independence Day, 4th of July. Those of you in the UK, sorry we left. We could talk way cooler. And also thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you for all of those who served so that we could have independence.

Military Tribute Video

00:00:33
Speaker
very, you know, mom and dad, my parents are there. Mom and dad, this is faith. My parents are in France right now when they left last week, last Friday. Um, my mom sent us a video because her plane, like she had my kids for the day while I was at work. And then I had to like race because they had to get to the airport and then their flight ended up getting like
00:00:55
Speaker
way delayed okay and she showed us the video where they were all the service members there to collect the casket oh my god i saw that heartbreaking i saw that on facebook and i'm just sitting here and i'm like you know what yeah guys i don't care who you are but if you cannot
00:01:15
Speaker
just feel sympathy for people like that. Like these guys, these men, these women that go out to protect you, to protect your freedoms, I don't care what your faith is, I don't care what your freedom is, okay? These people are- They did it for you, so just be appreciative. And their families lost them for you. And they're incredible. Mm-hmm. Because I could not honestly say that I would step out in the line of fire for anybody.

Introducing the Podcast and Topics

00:01:42
Speaker
Heck no. I wouldn't do it for you. I'm just saying.
00:01:45
Speaker
Might hide behind you. Those are the kinds of people though that need to be celebrated for real for real So so happy independence day. Yep. That was weird. That was weird I was kind of hoping that we would both say independence day, but you said forth whatever Well, you know, whatever
00:02:01
Speaker
Thanks for tuning in to Choice of Tales. This is Faith. This is Lisa. And we have got another two states for you today. So we got Michigan and what? Massachusetts. Good old mass holes. Sorry, guys. I'm from there. I can see it.
00:02:19
Speaker
Take her back. Take her back. Take her back, Massachusetts. Take her back. No. Ready? Rock, paper, scissors, shoot. Rock, paper, scissors, shoot. Fuck. No, Lisa. Sorry. You still can't say the F word? That didn't mean to. I don't like losing. Rock, paper, scissors, shoot. That'd be lost. Really? Really? Yep. You're seriously?
00:02:49
Speaker
Go ahead. Yeah, you shove that pizza crust all the way down your throat,

Odd Laws in Michigan

00:02:54
Speaker
bro. It's been a really long week, bro. I hope you gag on it. All right. So I'm going to start off with Michigan now.
00:03:02
Speaker
Um, I would just like to start with saying, I find it really, really funny that, uh, we had Florida man, right? Florida south, right? Weird stories. Listen, Florida gets a bad rap, but if you Google any state, no, no, I want you to let me, if they are crazy, I want you to, I want you to let me finish. Okay. So I literally, every time I start my podcast, I, I Google the same freaking sentence. Okay.
00:03:30
Speaker
crazy crimes in whatever state. Yeah. Right. But any time I've done like a northern state, they don't list out their weird, stupid criminals at all. But they don't want people to know those people live there. They're there. Come on. Come on, man. All right. But what I did find are crazy people to Tennessee. No kidding. I met you.
00:03:54
Speaker
Oh, yeah. Well, is what it is. OK. OK. But all the northern states always have one thing in common. This is the first time that I've done this research where I'm actually going to just talk about it because I think it's kind of amusing, but not in the same sense of like Florida man or by you, Billy, whatever we called it the last time by a boy. Yeah.
00:04:21
Speaker
So this is Michigan that we're about to start in on. And I am going to tell you, and this is literally every other Northern state that I've done thus far, they always have the craziest laws. Right, things that are technically illegal. So...
00:04:44
Speaker
I'm gonna go ahead and go in no it is illegal to idle your car in your own driveway in the state of Michigan why I'm oh no no no no okay no no I want you to think about I want you to think about this one logically right we're from the south we know about weird creatures right yeah in the state no I'm sorry the city of Detroit it's illegal to tie your alligator to a fire hydrant
00:05:13
Speaker
makes perfect sense. I mean I could feel like that would be like definitely Florida, Georgia, and any of those like he had to try like back in the day it had like it wasn't like the music place.
00:05:27
Speaker
I have no idea. Motor City something. I don't know. You should be really either way. That's that's just trying to make sense of an alligator. Stupidly kind of funny. Like that's a law. So you seriously can't like turn your car on the winter to heat up and let it just sit there because that's illegal. Yeah, that's dumb. Yeah. Smoking while you're in bed. Illegal. And dangerous.

Strange Michigan Laws and Stories

00:05:54
Speaker
Rochester. OK.
00:05:56
Speaker
All bathing suits must have been inspected by the head of police. Bet that's a popular job. I was just going to say that. It's kind of like, oh, I'll get the first looksee, right? Looksee. Yeah, but we have an obesity epidemic in America, so maybe not the best job. Yeah, Kalamazoo. Kalamazoo. It's illegal to serenade your girlfriend.
00:06:24
Speaker
I can't play her music. She's not worth it. Wow. Yeah, but it's on the law book. It is on the law book. This one's weird. I'm just going to say it. I was going to skip over it, but it's illegal to paint sparrows to sell them as parakeets. That means someone has done that. That means someone has done that. Yeah. Hold on. There's another one that I wanted to.
00:06:51
Speaker
Oh, I'm sorry. It's illegal to let your pig run free. Pig run free. Got it. Pig. Unless it has a ring in its nose.

Wendy Wien's Hitman Saga

00:07:02
Speaker
Oh, so you can hook the leash to it and bring it home. The buffet. All right. So this is the last one I'm going to do only because I thought it was really funny. So this is Detroit and it is illegal in the city of Detroit for a man to scowl at his wife on Sunday.
00:07:20
Speaker
That should be a lot everywhere. Why just Sunday? Let's do all the day. Just in general, maybe just. I do a lot. My husband should never scowl at me. To just throw roses as I walk into room, pop, pop confetti and have a parade. I disagree with that. Like a hundred percent, hundred percent.
00:07:40
Speaker
All right. That was good. That was crazy. It's funny, but it's not as funny as like Florida man and by boy. Like, but I really like it when people are just stupid. I want to know what officers actually enforcing some of these items like the Serenade idling. I don't think I do. I think it's just literally and try to sell it as a pair of shirt. Yeah, that's fraud. It's fraud. It's also a mastermind for anybody who actually sold that bird.
00:08:08
Speaker
Wow. Unfortunately, I'd give you kudos. I mean, I'm just saying sparrows, parakeets don't really. They're not super similar. So many pigs and alligators running around that there's laws about it. I was just going to say, man, tie your alligator to the hybrid. It's going to eat the pig. Well played. I'm just saying. Well played. All right. So I'm going to move into my story. All right. And I'm going to have you help me out with this one only because
00:08:39
Speaker
The pronunciation of the word, her last name, is weird to me because of the way other certain things are spelled the same way, right? So we have Wendy Wien, but it's W-E-I-N. Some other people pronounced it wine.
00:08:58
Speaker
That's W-I-N-E. That's right. Because I'm thinking, like, if you're going to spell wiener, it's W-E-I-N. I hope this is the bad guy, not the deceased you're talking about wiener. Not even close. Not even close. It is absolutely piss-pouring rain in Knoxville right now. So if you hear any kind of background noise, that's what you're hearing is the pouring. So Wendy was a 52-year-old woman.
00:09:28
Speaker
And in 2020. Wow. She was caught in a trap. I know. I like the reasons. I got the way back. I do like the way backs. So before we get into anything, I'm going to just first. That's your picture. We'll post that. OK. And I don't want you to see the headline here because that was an unfortunate photo. It was unfortunate. So Wendy also goes by Wendy Lynn.
00:09:58
Speaker
Godel Carter. So I'm going to say it one more time. She also goes by Wendy Lynn Godel Carter. She lives in South Rockford, Michigan. She's lived in quite a few other places since then, but I don't want to mention the fact that she had a small stint in Tennessee because it just makes us look bad. You just mentioned it. Yeah.
00:10:27
Speaker
Come on, Faith, you know I was gonna do it, like, regardless. Oh, wait, I'm sorry. In Tennessee, yeah, I was supposed to say not regardless, irregardless. Yeah. Right. Yeah, irregardless. Cool. So, it was Henderson, Tennessee, just in case anybody wondered. Um, yeah. July 2020, she completed a service request. And, um, that service request that she, uh,
00:10:58
Speaker
I'm sorry. I can't. Can you keep it? Lightning. Right. So, previously lived in a bunch of other places. She took a survey, not a survey, a service request from an online dark web kind of deal. Okay. I don't understand how so many people like get on the dark web. Yeah.
00:11:26
Speaker
It confuses me. Like, is it www.darkweb.com? Like, you know, it could be. How do you even know to get on it? Could be. Who knows? So this this story is going to get short only because there's not like any information previous to her. I do know that she was 52 years old when this went down in Michigan. Right. I also know that she had been
00:11:53
Speaker
Divorce from her husband for like a minute bro. It's it's been a while Okay, okay. So do you have any kind of idea where we're going here? I'm assuming either death are she selling herself? No, but I've seen her picture. So I'm gonna go to the first one. She went to a website Called rent a hitman
00:12:19
Speaker
dot com. Dot com. Sorry. Rent Hitman dot com. That sounds so legit, bro. That's where I'm going to rent my. Oh, wow. Yeah. It only be better if it was like Hitman than all of us. Right. Like, and you go to the black market and you're like, buy a kidney dot com. Right. Yeah. Because that's.
00:12:47
Speaker
I'm sorry, it's not funny but at the same time it's kind of awesome because like she had such ill intentions right and got busted by something so freaking asinine like that's really that's really legitimately 110 percent
00:13:07
Speaker
the website that she- Did she even go on the dark web or did she do a Google search? It's a strong possibility. I feel like she went to Google. All right, so check it out. So this is some of the information that I got, all right? So the name of the guy that ran the site was Guido Fanelli. Guido
00:13:27
Speaker
Yeah, Guido. Pretty strong possibility. Right? It's not Gido. No, it's Gido. That's the way it sounds. That's what it is, because I'm Italian. I understand these things, right? And it's so just obvious. But his name was also not Gido. What? Officer what? His name was Bob Ines. Ines? I don't know. Shit.
00:13:58
Speaker
um he was a 54 year old from california okay he actually started the website for a class project how old is this kid 54 no not the lady the person that made the website 54 years old what class is he in is it like an elderly no no no no no no he was a
00:14:23
Speaker
He was a guy taking all different kind of like he his object or his goal was to thank you. Was to create sites like this to capture evil people. I'm going to I'm going to dive in a little bit more with Miss Wendy. OK, and then we're going to pull back a little bit. We're going to talk more about Bob. OK, all right. So let me open this back up.
00:14:55
Speaker
I can't stop. All right. So like I said, they had been like divorced for a minute, right? Like literally she went through like an application process. She filled out an application. It's not a job.
00:15:11
Speaker
That's for lack of a better word, but literally gave out her information to this dude. They don't do that in illegal activity Did she also call the cops by her crack? She's 52. Oh My god, well played That was last episode guys. You got to listen. That was funny. Okay, um, oh For crying out loud faith
00:15:40
Speaker
So he turned her over to the cops.
00:15:46
Speaker
Yeah, she was arrested. She basically filled out her own arrest warrant. In a nutshell, yeah. Name, weight, eye color, hair color. But then what they did though, they set her up, right? So you had an actual detective at this point, right? And they met up with this woman because there has to be like proof in point. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're trying to do this, right? You got to hand over money or it's not. You weren't intending to do it. Exactly. So she made a down payment.
00:16:14
Speaker
of what, $5.99 on the layaway plan? Rentedhitman.com? Rentedhitman.com, buddy. They've got to have layaway options. Definitely. Definitely. Well, I can't afford this in 2020, but I could definitely afford it maybe in 2022. No, she didn't know that COVID was coming. Stimmy money, she could get that click.
00:16:41
Speaker
Oh my god. I told you this was gonna be a fun one. And it's only fun because like she was caught, right? So she met with the detective, she gave him her down payment, she was supposed to give him another $5,000 after the job was done.
00:16:57
Speaker
I'm waiting, you're blanking, a lot, right? Because she really thought this was real. I think if I got busted and I was her, I'd be like, obviously I knew this was a setup, rentahitman.com. I was just trying to help you guys get the hitmans that are too stupid. Right, right. Because it's an obvious setup. No, not even close. Oh my god. Not even close. Because you know what? It's people like her that we put warning labels on things.
00:17:26
Speaker
Coffee is hot. Yes. Don't eat the Tide Pods. Yeah, don't eat Tide Pods. Oh my goodness. So I'm going to move back. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. It's just fun.
00:17:45
Speaker
Oh man, so uh wine at 52 or we however you want to call her is not the only person who got stuck in um He caught more than one person in any's digital

Reflections on Absurdity and Common Sense

00:17:59
Speaker
trap. Are you ready for that? No, I want you to guess the number guess the number I'm surprised if there's one Guess the number. Oh 25 no
00:18:13
Speaker
Way higher, bro. 1,052. 7? No, I'm sorry. It was 650 to 700 people. Went on Rent-a-Hitman.com. There's that many dumb people. Rent-a-Hitman.com. You have to pay an application fee? It's like BuyUseTires.com only they've been, you know, jacked up and stolen.
00:18:39
Speaker
Is there an application fee that he got to like keep $25 to apply? I really want to go online just right now and just type in rentahitman.com and see what comes here. Oh yeah, that's great. That's cool. He's old. Look at his life.
00:18:55
Speaker
He's also way smarter than the 52 year old woman who decided I need a hitman. And 700 other people that went to- Like how did you imagine? Okay. No, no, no, no. What were these people thinking? Okay. Like I'm gonna, did you, all right. I'm gonna go into my Google bar and I'm gonna type in dark web. Okay. And then look up dark web, right? It just pops up like that. Obviously. Obviously. And then I'm gonna be like,
00:19:24
Speaker
how to rent a hitman right they probably went to google and typed in how to rent a hitman and the number one pop-up is click here for dark web link rent a hitman dot com click
00:19:39
Speaker
For $5.99 and filling out a brief personal survey. Yeah, hey, give me a copy of your license. Yeah, your registration, your birth certificate. Exactly how you would like your person murdered. Oh my god. Oh wow. How would you like that murdered? Is it like an ABC? Is it essay format? No, not even close. You give a PowerPoint?
00:20:03
Speaker
right and you're like um i would really my first option would be definitely like a slaughter right um you know b would be maybe like a gunshot to the head c if you have to slip their wrist makes it look like a suicide
00:20:19
Speaker
Go for it, right? 700 people fell for this. 700 people? I am so disappointed in America. Again, why do we have warning labels on things? Because hot pickles might burn your chin. Because when you order a coffee, you didn't know it was going to be hot. Yeah.
00:20:38
Speaker
Yeah. Oh, it takes all kinds. Do you know I heard on a podcast? I don't think I want to know. Actually, it's really it's I told I told it to your brother. This lady and I don't know if this is true or not. Just heard it. But if it's true. Wow. This lady had a one night stand with a guy she met at a bar. They had sex in the back of his car and she got an STD. Right.
00:21:03
Speaker
So she sued Geico, his car insurance, and won $3 million. Are you kidding me? Are you kidding me? I don't know. I just heard on a podcast talking about it, but I was like, how do you sue a car insurance for your dumb choices?
00:21:20
Speaker
Oh my gosh. Yay, America. We should have told better stories that didn't make us look like. Well, no, I like I kind of feel like I'm sitting here and I'm going back and I'm looking at my Michigan things that are illegal. Right. And like you really have to spell things out for people. OK. No, no, no, no, no, no. So maybe they don't want your car idled in your driveway because maybe people were idling in their garage. That might kill you.
00:21:50
Speaker
Right. Sure. Same with smoking in bed. Yeah, you can light a fire. I mean, I feel like the pet alligator not tied to a hydrant. There's something more there because. Yeah, but a gator is going to kill you. It's going to kill you. Yeah, you're going to die. Oh, my goodness. So now. Yeah. And maybe maybe, though, just real fast.
00:22:16
Speaker
Maybe it's illegal to paint sparrows to sell them as parakeets because people actually believe that a sparrow is a parakeet. Why do you want to buy parakeets?
00:22:28
Speaker
I had a parakeet once. His name was Aspen. It was not a fun pet. I'm just going to turn that out there. I had a bird that was yellow and green, and I wanted to eat my bubblicious game. So I stuck its little head down on its beak, got stuck, and he suffocated to death because I was a bad child. And I just wanted to share my purple bubblicious gum with them.
00:22:49
Speaker
Yeah. Well, you're a kid. You're dumb. What the heck? I remember being I was actually I worked at a daycare and the best way that I could describe toddlers is equating them to like tiny drunk people. Yeah. Oh, 100 percent. Like you just don't you don't really know what they're capable of till it happens. So, I mean, that's
00:23:13
Speaker
It's not far-fetched. Let's be realistic. It's true. Anybody that has a toddler, you know. Like you wake up in the morning and you have like a piece of broccoli sitting inside your shoe. You don't know why there's a piece of broccoli in your shoe. You're just glad they let you sleep in some. There you go. All right. Well, that was a good one. All right. So real quick.
00:23:37
Speaker
She was 52. Yeah. She was divorced from her husband. She knew better. For years and years. But there was no information that I could find, nothing she admitted to, nothing that she was like, this is what triggered me, right? She just straight up one day was like, I want him like dead. And she actually. Maybe she had a couple drinks one night and was like, yeah. No, she spent time. She spent time thinking about it. From all accounts that I read,
00:24:07
Speaker
It was premeditated for sure. And then, I guess, like you said, maybe she had some drinks one night. She's like, I can do it this way. Anybody who's married thinks about it at some time. I lay in bed listening to your brother snore and hold my pillow and just think how much pressure. Well, first of all, guys, I just want to state for the record that I like this podcast. I like Faith.
00:24:36
Speaker
At this point, I like her a little less. I love my brother. To an extent. Yeah, but you don't live with him anymore. No, I don't live with him anymore. But that's kind of morbid. I was joking. It was called a joke. Yeah, we can all joke. We all know. We all know. Oh, that's crazy. 52 years old. Hire a hitman.com.
00:25:00
Speaker
Wow. And it makes me feel kind of proud of myself, right? That what you wouldn't follow me for is? Because I feel like if I was going to hire a hit man, I wouldn't Google how to hire a hit man. Where to rent one? Where to? Oh, is it renting? I feel like that's funny. That's rent. Yeah, it's rentahitman.com. So yeah. How do you rent a purse? OK.
00:25:29
Speaker
Rent. Man. Oh, to be old and naive. But 700 people, they weren't all 700 people. 700 people. That's a lot of stupidity. That's amazing. I'm sorry. But hey, guys, guess what? Guess what? I'm sorry. Was that Lion King? It was. That was Lion King. Yeah. I'm just sitting here thinking like.
00:25:56
Speaker
Yeah. That's why there are so many directions on how to take medicine. Do not exceed. There's medicines on everything. Read your deodorant. Read your toothpaste. Yeah, man. Like literally they dummy proof the crap out of that. Like anybody is going to turn it over and read those tiny words. No, they're going to do it themselves and they're going to sue you because they put toothpaste in their eye. I thought it was eye drops.
00:26:24
Speaker
I thought it was a cream, help my dark circles. Wow. Wow. Wow. All right. So, guys, if you want to kill somebody, go to www.hirehitman.com and then go to jail like everybody else. That is so dumb.
00:26:44
Speaker
But that's such a light hearted way. It was a good night. Here's the deal. Here's the deal. He is so alive right now. Her ex. Right. Well, because she's a good 110 percent alive. Right. But then it's kind of almost giving you like an inside look.
00:27:01
Speaker
into somebody else's mind. Like, okay, we got divorced and there was maybe a crapshoot, right? Yeah. And I'm over it. Like, I'm good. Everything's fine. But everybody feels sorry for you now. They're like, what did you put up with? Right. No. But I'm saying, like, what could have possibly triggered her to think, I'm just going to hire a hit man? You can't make sense of
00:27:30
Speaker
That level of crazy. Yeah. Rent a hitman dot com rent a hitman dot com and you can find that at www dot dark web dot com. I don't guys this is total fabrication. Not and I hope you know not the story, but I wish in our mind. It's it's so dumb, bro. Yeah.
00:27:53
Speaker
i love it though it was awesome because she is just so stupid and clearly like she could have killed this guy like she had the intention of doing so i don't think she had the mental faculties to pull it off no she would have been caught either whether she tried to do it herself or
00:28:10
Speaker
Yeah, went online, but that was her. That was her thought process. That was what she felt in that moment. She's like, I'm going to hire a guy to kill my

Transition to Massachusetts Mystery

00:28:19
Speaker
ex. He was not going to hire him. And I'm renting one. Yeah, renting whatever. Either way. Either way, she was busted by a completely farce. I want to know what made this guy think like this is what I'm going to do with my life. He's going to catch all the stupid people. I want to know what other websites he has.
00:28:38
Speaker
Www dot I like murder dot com. Www dot I'll steal something for you. All the ones I thought of were like so horrible, I didn't feel comfortable saying. Yeah, me too. That's why I kind of stutter stopped. Definitely. Wow. All right. Well,
00:29:04
Speaker
Go Michigan. Thank you, sir, for ridding the world one dumb person at a time. Where's he from? Do we know? He was from California. Oh, I wish he was from a better home. Hey, no offense to anybody from California. No, it's just so expensive up there.
00:29:21
Speaker
That was a terrible way of trying to just retract your statement. That was dumb. You got to be dressed up all the time. You got to wear makeup all the time. Yeah. You have to look good to be in Cali. I don't want to. I like my yoga pants. I like my messy bun. Nope. No makeup and no, you know, have it shaved in a week, but you can't see it because I have on yoga pants. Darn tootin.
00:29:50
Speaker
Alright, well, are you ready to go to your homeland? No, because I don't trust you much. I don't know. She always thinks she's gonna get me with some of the stuff. She's like, oh, this is your hometown. This is gonna be like legit, Lisa. And then she doesn't realize that I absolutely hate Massachusetts. I don't like to visit Massachusetts like ever. No, no, no.
00:30:14
Speaker
It's like it's like the one. OK, no, no, no, no eating tour and come back. Exactly. If I could just go up north and eat for like a solid week and not have to interact with any people, what? But that's really like everywhere. They'll meet. Yeah, I don't like people at all. All right. Well, you ready for my story? Let's hear it. All right. Just a few trigger warnings. This has them all. Nice. Great.
00:30:41
Speaker
It's a horrible story. Actually, I almost know this story from memory because I was super young when I overheard this story and it freaked me out. Am I going to probably know the story? I don't know. It is a very, my mouth shut up. It's a very well-known story. And you know, when stories are well-known, I like to leave out a detail or not to try to get you to not know what I'm talking about. Right.
00:31:08
Speaker
So I'm gonna live out a little key detail on the guy's MO just because I wanna see if I can get through the end of it without you figuring out who I'm talking about. But legitimately everybody, like if you're 25 and up, you've heard this story. So it just depends on if you realize you've heard this story type of deal. So we're in the early seventies and we are around
00:31:38
Speaker
Um, the Cape Cod area, I love the Cape. I'm sorry, but that is very pretty. Well, and it is this, this town is like picturesque. It is a tourist trap. It's got the little beach huts to rent. It's where everybody goes on summer vacations, spring break, all that type of stuff, right? Everybody goes there.
00:31:58
Speaker
This town, it's so it's so touristy, so beautiful. It's so touristy. And they've got so many their shops. It's like everything you could possibly need. Right. In one area. And that's Cape Cod. Yeah, it is beautiful. So that is where we're at. Nothing bad ever happens in this little town. I mean, people are coming in and out. The worst thing you get something like petty theft.
00:32:23
Speaker
maybe people a little drunk and disorderly, but this is the early 70s. So right. And it's not maybe some great whites to win around in the ocean. No grassy. I don't like I don't do the ocean. I'm going to the beach next week and I'm already freaking out. Anyways, OK. I don't like nature. I think we've discussed this.
00:32:45
Speaker
But in the 70s people were 10 tended to be a lot more respectful than they are today So it wasn't like there was nothing huge happening So

Cape Cod Beach Party and Disappearance

00:32:55
Speaker
in this in this little town There is a new
00:33:01
Speaker
police chief. I'm sorry. I know I really struggled. That was bad. Police chief. He is from a bigger like Boston type area more hardened crime. So right. This is basically like he's not retiring, but he's kind of retiring type of deal.
00:33:18
Speaker
He's got his wife and he's got two not super young, but younger children. Yeah, like if I'm going to go and I'm going to spend the rest of my career somewhere, it's it's going to be at the beach. Yeah, that's basically his wife said you're going to die. Wow. Because that you're going to have a heart attack. Like you're always too stressed. Right. Huge crimes, huge murders. We just we got to get out of there. So that's what they did. All right. So sorry, I lost my spot. I see.
00:33:48
Speaker
So he's there, he's been there about a week. It's the beginning of tourist trap season and seriously, like he said that it was the best week of his life at a job. Like he said he gave out like two or three parking tickets like and that was it. Like he just kind of roamed around like this was the best job he's ever had. Absolutely. Cause he comes from again, like a Boston area. So late that night, some of the local teens are having like a big out of school bash.
00:34:17
Speaker
They have a campfire out, you know, on the beach. On the beach. Always on the beach. He was there earlier the night. Excuse me. The police chief was there earlier that night and just said, you know, clean up. Don't make a mess. Yeah, be civil. Yeah. Yeah, basically. So police chief leaves. They all open up the coolers, the booze they had hidden probably in the back of their trucks. Who knows? And they're in the sand, buddy. Yeah.
00:34:45
Speaker
And they just have a really good time. There are, it's estimated 20 to 30 kids. Most of them locals, like I said, they're drinking, they're dancing, they're playing games, there's probably a guitar too, you know, that type of thing. So in this, there are three girls. There's Christine, Rachel, and I think you pronounce her name Letitia.
00:35:11
Speaker
No, you can't see my notes. Well, there's a big giveaway on my notes. How does it spell? L-A-T-I. Letitia. Yeah, Letitia. That's what I said. You said Letitia. Oh, Letitia. They call her Law a lot of the times in the documentary I was reading. So, Christy had just broken up with her boyfriend, and he's there with another girl from the town next over.
00:35:37
Speaker
Yeah, drama. So she's really upset. Her two friends, Rachel and Laura, are trying to like console her. She's drank way too much booze. And she starts really flirting with this out of town guy that's there. And we don't know his name. We do not know his name.
00:35:56
Speaker
And so Rachel and Law go to get drinks and one of, I guess one of their older brothers were there just to be like, hey, you need to come help us with Christie. We don't know this guy. They come back, Christie's gone. They can't find her anywhere. And Rachel's older brother is like, I really wouldn't worry about it. She's getting over him by getting under someone else basically type of attitude. Like it's not a big deal. Let her do her.
00:36:24
Speaker
So they go on with this party. Rachel in law can't find Christy. They wait for her. They've sobered up by this point. People are dwindling out. Christy never returns. All her stuff's gone. Like they don't see her purse there. So they just assumed she went home with this guy. They don't know his name. They don't know who he is, right?
00:36:45
Speaker
So they go home, they go to bed. The next day, everything wakes up, picturesque beautiful town, sunrises over the ocean. How do you just leave your friend like that? Like how do you? You should never leave your friend, ever. That's why girls go to the bathroom in pairs. You never leave your friend behind. Like I'm not trying to sound like a dick, guys. In any way, shape, fashion, or form, okay? But
00:37:08
Speaker
y'all just be responsible for each other man like you don't know you don't know they couldn't find it like they waited in their defense they did wait for a while but would you really let me walk off with some random dude that you've never met especially if I've been drinking and this is not victim shaming has nothing to do with the victim I'm just trying to say y'all gotta hold each other accountable man like I've seen so many you're drinking yeah
00:37:37
Speaker
So liquid courage. Yeah. So the next morning, sun comes up, beautiful town. Forests are popping out of the woodwork, going a little shops, heading to the beach.
00:37:50
Speaker
Kids are playing in the sand. Everything's great. And the beach is packed. Like the. It usually is. Police chief said that like all you can see are blankets and bodies and balls. Yeah. Beach balls. Not the other time. Sorry. It's not a scuba surprise. Yeah. And then all of a sudden you hear someone just start screaming. Like bloody murder screaming. In the middle of the beach. Middle of the beach.
00:38:17
Speaker
And that is when they find an arm, half buried in the sand, and that's all that's there is an arm.

Increasing Tension in Town

00:38:27
Speaker
So people obviously run, everyone's yelling, police chief gets down there, and as they do a grid search through the area, they end up finding the different body parts and remains of Christie. She's been mutilated. Mutilated, yes, yes.
00:38:49
Speaker
So much so that they can't even tell like a cause of death. And they don't even really know that it's Christie. We just. Yeah. They assume it was. There was enough of the head left to be able to tell. Oh, OK. We didn't get that far yet. I just figured like bits and pieces. It's going to be a minute. Yeah. Yeah. It took all day, but they were able to find the majority of her body. She was completely mutilated brutally. So the police chief even said it looked more of something that was for sport.
00:39:19
Speaker
But remember, he is from a big city. Yeah, so it's an and totally abnormal, right? I guess maybe. And it wasn't like super specific on the I'm sorry. I mean, my throat is really dry. You're good. You're good. So it wasn't specific on like.
00:39:43
Speaker
all the murder details like you know just that she was mutilated and the police chief says he knows like he knew to the bottom of his soul he knew this MO
00:39:59
Speaker
Like he knew the tools used to dismember her. It was a very specific set of tools and he had seen it pop up through his previous job. Okay. So what you're telling me is right now, this guy from like just, okay, we'll say Boston. Is that what you, okay. So you're looking at a major city, right? Hundreds of thousands of people. Yeah. Okay. And he's probably dug through
00:40:27
Speaker
however many cases, right? And maybe there's a pattern that starts to develop, right? And you're like, okay, why are all these victims, you know, decapitated or, you know, disemboweled, whatever. The set of tools, he knew who was responsible. There was a drifter, vagrant type of person.
00:40:51
Speaker
And so outside of Boston, it was a serial killer. And you're looking at Cape Cod. Cape Cod is quite a few miles away from Boston. Correct. So he went.
00:41:02
Speaker
to the mayor. And even though he's new, he told him, you know, basically what he said later on in the interview. I know who I know who's responsible. I know who did this. I don't know who it is. But I've seen this before. I've looked at these crime scenes before. I've looked at all of this before. Like I know what's going on. Right. It's this it's the script or we've got to issue a warning.
00:41:25
Speaker
Yes. And the mayor said, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. No, we're not going to issue panic, right? It's tourist season. And this is when our town and our population makes all of its money. That's what matters, guys. We don't want to scare. Let's just he approved overtime for all the police officers to be on alert, be on the lookout for any drifters, any vagrants, that type of thing. Right. All I can think of at this point. How many murderers that we've seen
00:41:56
Speaker
in the past, right, where the feds or just local
00:42:01
Speaker
police department, right? Yeah. And they issued this state, hey, these are the kind of women they're looking for. These are the kind of guys that they're looking for. This guy was. But we didn't know what I'm saying is. Yes, they don't want to. How often? No, I'm just general question. Let me talk. You've already had your turn to talk. No, I want to ask you. I know. I want you to listen. I would like you to do it in an orderly fashion. Bite me in our
00:42:32
Speaker
generation. I've never seen any kind of I have never on the news scene. No, that's not true. We had a blue alert the other day from that criminal. No, no. Blue, blue alert. Different. I'm talking about. Yes, it is very different. I'm talking about somebody getting up on stage. OK. No, they don't do that this day and age.
00:42:51
Speaker
It's all telling you, hey, this is the woman they're looking for. A, B, C and D. This is her description. OK, according to criminal minds, they do that with the police stations, not the general public typically.
00:43:03
Speaker
But that's what I'm saying. You were just saying that he wanted that. He wanted to issue a warning to everyone. And then here you spin it back out and you say, no, because it's tourist season. We don't care if anybody dies. Well, and in the mayor's defense, A,
00:43:23
Speaker
This guy is used to big, big time crimes in Boston. A, B, the, I mean, the sheriff, Martins. So Chief Martins, like, he wanted to put a curfew in effect. Like, he wanted lockdown, martial law, like, he didn't want just a description, like. It's not martial law. Where you've got a curfew and people aren't allowed after this hour, no matter. Yeah, martial law's a little different. I don't know, anyway.
00:43:53
Speaker
So the mayor just said basically no, put more put more police on duty tell everyone what to look at. We will get like all the council like the whatever they're called like the city council members will tell business owners, but we're not just going to make mass panic. That's not going to help anything.
00:44:13
Speaker
right so that was a very jaws i have i don't like that and do you remember where they're like hey yeah we know we have a shark that's eating anybody that gets into the ocean right and you might think it's silly and stupid but in this day and age it's kind of where we're at like they're not telling it like on average from what i read there's like a serial killer is somebody who murders somebody
00:44:41
Speaker
or murders three or more people. Yes. It's a serial killer. Yes. Okay. We had the shopping cart murderer guy. You remember that? No. I don't remember what state it's in. I want to say Virginia would be totally wrong. But what I'm saying is they're not giving anybody a heads up and they don't do that anymore. So anyway, back to my story. I'm sorry. That was my point. It was stupid. Um, so mayor ignores him and, um,
00:45:10
Speaker
Everything goes back to normal. Everything's fine. They did interview Rachel-in-law and they tell Sheriff Martin, Chief Martin, whatever, about the guy that she met. And so he wants a description because the guy he's looking for is older. He's a drifter. He goes all throughout. He doesn't have a home base type of thing.
00:45:36
Speaker
Honestly, it, the way it made it sound, I thought like an RV, like he's traveling, um, like Frank from Criminal Minds in the RV. Um, so, but then he's asking for descriptions because he's in his mind and in the police chief, he's thinking someone older and they honestly, they don't know. Like it was dark. They had been drinking.
00:46:00
Speaker
They thought it could have been like the neighboring, like high school or college student, but they just don't know. They don't know an age. They don't, do you know what I mean? Like they don't know. They just know they don't know him. So it's a 50-50 if it's his guy or not. He doesn't know, they don't know.
00:46:15
Speaker
So, everything kind of calms down, goes back to normal. About two weeks later, beaches are packed again. No one remembers the remains left in the sand, the sides of the family. Because you don't want to televise it, you don't want it out in the news. Well, not that you don't, but the mayor didn't, the people didn't, plus it's the 70s. It is a little bit more low key and respectful then.
00:46:39
Speaker
So not really, not really. Yeah. Well, the other serial killers that walked around in the 70s, the 70s. I'm talking about the people, not necessarily the serial killers. I know, but I'm saying in the seven. So town goes back to normal. Tourists, tourism is unaffected about two weeks after Christie. Around lunchtime on the beach.
00:47:07
Speaker
The Lucas family was there with their four children having their family vacation. That's why they were there. They're playing in the sand. They're playing in the surf. The mom starts calling out to the four boys to come. They're going to eat lunch. And one by one, all of them run up except seven-year-old Alex. They can't find him. Now as a mother, if I yell at my child,
00:47:36
Speaker
and I can't see her, I'm panicking in public. Absolutely. So, and I get in the 70s, it was a little bit more loosey goosey, but like I said, I'm a hover parent. I want to see her at all times. If we're in public, we're holding hands and she knows we hold hands tightly in crowds. Yeah. So, the mother, Miss Lucas starts, you know, she's not panicking yet, but she more than likely has that like, she's freaking out.
00:48:06
Speaker
But she's trying to lowkey. She's got three other kids there. She leaves the three other boys with her husband and stars walking around just yelling, Alex, Alex, where are you? Alex, they can't find him. One hour passes, two hour passes, three hours pass.
00:48:25
Speaker
They're all freaking out now. His three brothers are freaking out. Mom's freaking out. Dad's freaking out. They can't find him. People are starting to leave the beach like it's the end of the day. And as the crowd dwindles, there's still no hour. Seven. Seven. So they've called the police. They've run to the local ice cream shop there that has the phone. Call the police. Police come out. They're searching. They can't find him.
00:48:52
Speaker
And the sheriff just says his stomach drops. He knows. Like there's not a doubt in his mind. This is his stricter.
00:49:03
Speaker
is too close to Christy. He knows. But that's so weird though. I mean, that's a very dramatic difference in victims. Yes. And so they search through the night. They're calling for them. They're yelling for them. You see flashlights up and down the beach.
00:49:26
Speaker
All, they've got several, you know, men in the town, several shots, several cops, several firefighters. Everybody's out looking for this little boy. They can't find him. And even though there's a massive presence all night, all through town, the next morning, they know. And the sheriff knows. So he's walking up and down the beach in the high tourist areas and he starts to find the body.
00:49:55
Speaker
No way. Again, dismembered. Are you kidding me? No. Dismembered. Brutally, brutally mutilated. And at this point, he doesn't care what the mayor says. He doesn't care. He can lose his job. And that's he says that's what he tells his wife. Basically, I'm not going to sit idly by and let this this town become a victim. So he calls
00:50:22
Speaker
Agent Hoops, which is a specialist. He's talked to him about this case in this grifter before, drifter. Agent Hoops comes down to help. He's with the FBI. And so they start looking like seriously for this guy. He's not gonna stay in the town. Like you're not gonna find him. And that's what like they have a big town meeting when the FBI gets there.
00:50:50
Speaker
And basically they're explaining to him, like they're explaining to the townspeople, he's not going to be at a hotel. He's not going to be staying in town. You do not need to go out like a crazy lynch mob. He always stays off the radar. I mean, the guy's an enigma. Like you can't, like they've never been able to find him. Hoops has been after him for like, I don't know. I think it was like 15 years.
00:51:20
Speaker
And so as the town is like discussing it and they're freaking out, Alex's mom is just standing there in the back, listening to all this, realizing that they knew her son is dead and that the- They've not even told her. No, she knows her son's dead, but she knows that they knew that there was an issue before because they talked about Christie before they talked about Alex.
00:51:49
Speaker
So she loses it on the police chief in front of everybody. It's his fault, her son's died. It's his fault, her family. The mayor needs to hear that. And that's, you know, kudos to Sheriff Martin because he could have said I wanted to or I tried to and he just took it, apologized, nothing he could do. So,
00:52:16
Speaker
Everybody's dwindling out very somber attitude. Everyone's freaked out. Everyone's scared. Everyone's very highly emotional. You've got that like the whole town is like on this this pinhead where they're gonna just explode and go after everybody, right?
00:52:34
Speaker
And so, um, and I can only, I didn't see a picture of this guy, but I'm just going to tell you how I imagine this guy in my mind. So a bounty hunter type guy, like I think talk to bounty hunter comes because he's been tracking this guy forever. Like he's on all the most wanted.
00:52:53
Speaker
Anybody in law enforcement in big cities knows about this guy. So he approaches the sheriff and agent hoops and he's like, listen, I've been searching for this guy. Typically I can find, he doesn't have a home base. He doesn't have, like he sets up camps, but he's always on the move. Like we've got to go out and look for him, right? Right. Before there's anybody else that's dead.
00:53:22
Speaker
So, the next day before, they're trying to get this plan, the sheriff, the FBI, and dog, bounty hunter dude. And a local businessman does a citizen's arrest that morning. Because he found, he described him, he said a vagrant. Like he wasn't homeless, but you could tell, he was unkempt.
00:53:50
Speaker
said just didn't care about his personal. No, but he had but he also had knives on him. He was watching people at the beach when he had on a t shirt and shorts like in tennis shoes like he just he was off and that's what the guy said like there was just something off about him. He didn't belong there. So he did a citizen's arrest brings him to the police station and the mayor's like perfect. We got our guy. The town is safe.
00:54:20
Speaker
And the sheriff is just like, I don't, I don't think this is our guy. And agent hops hoops and, um, dog bounty hunter all agree. This is not their man. This is not the guy. This is not who has done all these crimes. Um, so fourth of July is approaching. Yep. It's about a week. Nope. In the story.
00:54:43
Speaker
It's about a week away. I mean, like, yeah, as in it's another touristy. Yep. It's about a week away. The town's getting ready for it. They've caught their bad guy. He is waiting trial. He's in jail. Everyone's rejoicing besides the families who are mourning. So they have got this big fireworks display over the beach. They've got like this big town like
00:55:08
Speaker
Not really like a parade, but it's like everybody's setting out their wares on the beach. Like it's a big party. Basically the whole town throws a party for all the tourists and it's on the beach and it's great. So everyone's out there. All the sheriffs out there, the FBI agents still there. The, um, dog, the bounty hunter guy. I did not write down his name and cannot remember for the life of me, but they're all, they're all patrolling because they don't believe that the guy locked up as their guy.
00:55:33
Speaker
Now, most of the cops on the payroll believe they got the guy. He was found with all the tools necessary. But was it easier? It was easier, but A, he didn't have a car on him. He would, he had no license on him. No wallet, this guy. Um, they didn't even release his name. I couldn't find his name, but
00:55:52
Speaker
He had no ID on him. He had no like identification whatsoever. He had he had all these same types of blades needed to dismember the bodies. How do these people get so lucky bro? I don't know. So they've got him locked up and literally all the cops are like we we've got him like
00:56:12
Speaker
Basically, Sheriff Martin is used to a rougher area, and he's not just taking the win. Like, he's looking for trouble where trouble shouldn't be made, basically, right? This is a great town. Things don't happen here. Honestly, it didn't happen until he came, so meh. Anyway. That's weird. But they're still patrolling because they're getting paid to be there. But, you know, they're not drinking beers, but they're eating their hot dogs, they're talking to people, they're mingling.
00:56:43
Speaker
Several people, like it's weird.
00:56:48
Speaker
They're all on the beach. It is dark. There's fireworks going off. And all of a sudden, someone yells. They go over there, and there's someone injured. Like, they've got a slash to their torso. But they can't tell them anything. They didn't see him. They didn't see who cut them. And all of a sudden, there's another yell. So they run over here. And this guy's leg has got, like, it's three blades. It almost looks like claw marks down his legs, like deep gouges.
00:57:16
Speaker
You can't tell you who did it. Didn't see anybody. Wow. Then, you know, over 50 feet this way, you hear another scream. And this one's got things on, like claw marks on their back. This person's got, like, it's basically someone just walking around just stab, stab, stab, like.

Showdown with the Real Murderer

00:57:31
Speaker
You had to hit me. Sorry. I didn't. I'm talking. I don't know a good way to explain it. So I'm trying to explain it. You're trying to explain it in a podcast where no one can see anything. Yeah. I didn't say I was explaining it well.
00:57:45
Speaker
I'm just saying, I think she's looking for reasons to hit me. So anyway, so all in all, like basically the party's over. People are done. Yeah. Everything said and done. No one died, but I think it was.
00:58:00
Speaker
six people were injured that night in front of everybody but nobody can tell you nobody got caught right that's wow so at this point the sheriff and the agent agent hoops and dog the bounty hunter are done they're gonna go find this guy so they take off
00:58:21
Speaker
They go, they start trailing to non-populated areas. Like, I want to say woods, but I know it's not woods because it's Cape Cod, but I don't really know what the unpopulated areas look like, but just, you know. Yeah, it depends. Like, I mean, it always depends on like outskirts. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Trying to think of everything looks a little bit different. You know, it's like when you have a beach community. Yeah. There's always the fishing people and then there's the
00:58:51
Speaker
You know, the trinket shops. It's almost like the vacant area. Yeah. So. They go and they're checking any vacant house, any vacant building, any warehouse that's not currently open and operating. Any store that's under renovations like anywhere this guy could be hiding out, right? Yeah. And so they're going, they're looking, they're looking, they're looking and all of a sudden out of nowhere, this guy attacks them.
00:59:21
Speaker
Please tell me they shot him in the head So he's got a weapon and he's firing at the at the three the three men out or he had a gun. Yes, okay, so No, nice marks, but they're firing back. Everyone's like it's this huge standoff between them, right? Agent hoops gets injured
00:59:44
Speaker
so he's laying on the ground like basically trying to hide i think he said um behind a box like he's just he's just trying to stay alive at this point um the sheriff tries to get his walkie-talkie thing i don't know what it was in the 70 but we're gonna go the walkie-talkie to try to call for help to get back up dog the bounty hunter smashes it under his boot
01:00:07
Speaker
Like takes it out of his hand, smashes it because he wants to rest the sky. He wants all the glory. He wants the bounty. This is 15 years of his life. And they are in the standoff. Everyone's kind of a little injured. And all three agents, all three officers are out of ammo.
01:00:30
Speaker
Really? Yes, because they're just at a search mission. This guy attacked him like out of the blue. So they are trying to get to him because this guy has to be out of ammo too, they're thinking. So they're trying to get to him to basically kind of set a trap between the sheriff and dog the bounty hunter to catch him. And out of nowhere, this guy gets in the sheriff's face with his gun pointed right at him.
01:00:54
Speaker
Okay, they were in this warehouse the way they described it is like there's boxes. There's like these racks So you're like just going through Like he called it like it was almost like tunnels like you can't see like you can see where you're going like a maze So the guy's got a gun in his face pulls the trigger click He is out of ammo. No way. Yeah, so they get in this huge fight. They're throwing punches. It's violent There's blood going everywhere
01:01:22
Speaker
If Dog the Bounty Hunter tries to come in, the guy knifes him.
01:01:28
Speaker
because let's be honest, why did you not think he wouldn't have knives on him? He's knifed everyone. So he gets too close. He's bleeding out of his side. He's worthless. It's just the sheriff and this guy now. They're literally doing everything they can to take him. To take him out. Yes. It doesn't matter what he has. He's doing everything he can to get free. That, my friend, is a civil servant.
01:01:55
Speaker
So the sheriff and this guy are basically battle out throwing boxes at each other throwing punches kicking running and going all the way through this and
01:02:08
Speaker
They end up getting separated somehow. The sheriff can't find him. He has no weapon. His guns are empty. He has no shells left. Both of the people he's with are down for the count. Can't help him. So he's literally walking around this warehouse area, looking in all the dark corners, trying to find this guy again. He sees a fire extinguisher. It's heavy. It's literally the only thing around him that's not a cardboard box. So he grabs that. Wow.
01:02:37
Speaker
What else you do? Nothing. You got a flashlight bro. You got nothing. So he rounds up and he beats it in his face. Guy is right there in his face again. Okay. And he literally, the sheriff beats the guy in the head. I love it. And ends up killing him. Like in this massive just blood and gore, horribleness. Even if he was innocent,
01:03:04
Speaker
He attacked him. That's what I'm saying. Like, it's like you reap what you sow and I feel like people don't don't accept that anymore. Either way. So do you know what story I'm telling? Have you? No. Have you heard this? No. All right. I've left out one huge piece of his emo. Of course you did. And as soon as I tell you his emo, you're going to be really mad at me.
01:03:28
Speaker
No, my goodness. All right. Every time, like after they did all this research and found out everything, every time he killed somebody. When he when he got them, he played a song. Oh, my God. OK. Are you ready? Yeah. Copyright infringement. I credit whoever did this song and the things going off top of my head and I don't have it, but I'm just going to say a little piece of it. You don't have to. I do.
01:03:58
Speaker
done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done done
01:04:25
Speaker
Brody Martin was the sheriff there. I used him. Oh my god. I really and you're like sharks and I was like, shut up
01:04:44
Speaker
I'm like, you're right! That's so- Did you think it was- It does! I know! And then you shut me down like a whore! Yeah, so I kept trying to get you to shut up. So yeah, that's what- I want to know if anyone figured it out. Because I thought- I was trying to- Oops! I had a really good- And I thought Dog the Bounty Hunter was great for that shark hunter guy. Oh my god. And that's why I said the fire extinguisher because it was a scuba tank and the shark's valve. Oh man. And they blamed the tiger shark at the beginning of the movie. So in a nutshell, in a nutshell, Faith is a liar.
01:05:21
Speaker
The other day I was like I have this idea cuz it's the 4th of July I think it'd be really funny But is this super corny cuz I don't want it to be really corny, but I think it'd be oh No, you had me so engulfed in the story No, no because we had to pause it a couple times and you're like shut up
01:05:41
Speaker
And I'm something like the one part I forgot. Yeah, Lisa, shut up. Shut up. You don't know nothing. The one thing I didn't do that I wanted to do in is I wanted to name the serial killer Bruce because that was the fake shark's name in the movie. Yeah. But I forgot and I said he didn't know who he was so that I couldn't be like and his name is Bruce. Right. But that's why he was that was good. That was good. Drifting in the ocean. I hate you so much.
01:06:08
Speaker
This is why I made you go. We also lied about rock-paper-scissors because I wanted to go last because I thought this might throw off her concentration. So I was like, let's go. Good. No, no, no, no. Now you're admitting to the fact that we are falsification. Just this one time because could you, that was good. That was good. And I knew it would throw you off a little. But you can't tell me my story wasn't great. Your story was great.
01:06:30
Speaker
But I was totally proud of Jaws. Oh my goodness. I can't believe you used it as a reference too. I was like, oh, she knows. Dude, that's hilarious. Because I didn't even change the names. Christy, let's see, where is it? Do you have any idea how long it's been since I- Christy Watskin was the girl that went skinny dipping at the beginning of Jaws. Yeah, but dude, do you have any idea how long it's been since I've seen that movie? Oh, I had to look up the plot. I wanted to watch it, but it's not on any streaming devices. And I didn't have time to run it because it's been really crazy at work. So I literally had to read the plot.
01:07:00
Speaker
But yeah, that's why it says the serial killer. You're like the Boston Harbor Cape Cod. And did you know that they thought it was a bull shark? They thought it was a tiger shark. I thought it was a bull. No, I did read that. They blamed it on a tiger shark. They get some random local fishermen caught because he had the same tools as the other. Oh my goodness. I was trying really hard, like not to lie as much as I could.
01:07:29
Speaker
It was all factual, but it was definitely a movie.

Lisa's Jaws-Inspired Storytelling

01:07:36
Speaker
When he popped up and put the gun in the sheriff's face, that's when the shark jumps out of the water at the sheriff. I was trying really hard to keep it.
01:07:44
Speaker
Anyway, that's my story for me. And they were like, oh, there were random slashes on these people because that is what threw me off. At the Fourth of July party in Jaws, they're all in the ocean and the shark keeps biting people. But you didn't say anything like that. I know. I couldn't say it was in the ocean because then you'd know.
01:08:06
Speaker
You said it was a night look yeah, you didn't say That would give it away there was no speculation there at all you're like it was a knife wound
01:08:19
Speaker
It was oh, yeah, yeah, you got me good. I hope yeah, I hope you enjoyed that you got me hard, bro I'm like a story you do not need to talk about Because you're such a whore jaws you're such a whore that even when I got close I
01:08:44
Speaker
like close you're like no shut up pause Lisa you're dumb like that's what I'm dumb but we we still have to do tonight and you were talking about so I was just trying to shift you know you like that I was I was literally like that I was literally asking so many questions because I needed I knew I
01:09:08
Speaker
where it was heading, right? You did not know where it was headed. No, you thought you thought the moment the moment you were like, oh, well. Oh, I can't even I can't. I can't pretend you did not know.
01:09:25
Speaker
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01:09:45
Speaker
That was good. That was good. All right. Well, hope you guys have a great summer. I hope you had a great Fourth of July. And we'll talk to you soon. That was messed up. Bye. Bye.