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Episode 33: Predetermined & Queen Of The Ring Attend All In
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This week Garrett & Derrick are joined by a very special guest, Queen of the Ring! The day after All In they describe what it was like to be in attendance at the biggest independent wrestling show of all time! Also, be sure to stick around for the great pizza debate as Derrick goes head to head with the Queen to determine whose city has the best pizza!
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Transcript
Introduction and Hosts' Enthusiasm
00:00:00
Speaker
Hey everybody, welcome to another episode of Predetermined, a pro wrestling hangout. I'm your host, Garrett Callender, and with me, as always, a man who witnessed pro wrestling history this weekend, and a woman who also witnessed pro wrestling history this weekend, Derek Halpin.
00:00:17
Speaker
Alex, actually, I what's your last name? You don't have to give that away. No, no. Queen of the ring. Yeah. Queen of the ring. Yeah. Much, much more appropriate. Yeah. Not only am I a man who witnessed history last night, I'm a man whose voice is completely ravaged by how awesome the last three days have been. And I don't think I'm alone in that sentiment. I mean, you had a good couple of days of screaming at wrestling and maybe Scott Steiner and screaming at other podcasters on podcast row.
00:00:47
Speaker
Yeah, but that was behind the scenes about texts and whatnot. I'm just saying the lobby of the Hyatt Regency in Schomburg was loud. Okay, yeah, you mean just to communicate. Yeah, talking over people. That doesn't help. And then when you're screaming because a bunch of dicks are coming to the ring. I'm ready to talk about all in, guys. Hit our goddamn music.
Audience Energy and Comparisons to Concerts
00:01:38
Speaker
So that was a hell of a show last night. That's an understatement. Don't be surprised at different points during this podcast. You hear it sound like I'm going through puberty for the first time. It surprises only you because I was the one that was screaming the loudest and the most. You had a bunch of people said they could hear you specifically.
00:01:55
Speaker
Yeah, in section 206, specifically. And I think that we actually confirmed that last night when we went back and rewatched a couple of the matches, you were able to hear yourself during- Yeah, I heard myself yelling V-trigger during the Kenny Omega match.
00:02:10
Speaker
If it makes you feel better, Garrett was doing it, too, right beside me. Oh, yeah. Oh, I was. Yeah, I screamed one trigger every time. You know, I had to call the match from where I was just to make sure everybody knew what was going on. You know, I leaned over to you at one point and I mentioned that I hope the future of wrestling is that when you go to a live show, you get the alternate option of getting an earpiece so that you can hear the commentary being done live at the like while you're in the venue, just like the way they used to do. People show up at ballparks and they'll have the earbuds in for the radio.
00:02:40
Speaker
I think he's looking for wrestling shows to be a little more technologically advanced. Now it's going to be like a Katy Perry show where we all have a light-up wristband. Absolutely. So that the crowd is part of the light show. Color coordinated. I did not know Katy Perry did that at shows. I think she did it. Taylor Swift does it. Coldplay does it. It's all the rage right now. And pretty soon Cody and the Bucks will be doing it too. Oh, OK. I go to better concerts, so I wouldn't know. What's better than Katy Perry?
00:03:07
Speaker
I saw Turbo Wolf. They were pretty good.
00:03:12
Speaker
I saw Turbo Negro. They're pretty good. Oh, OK. Let's talk pro wrestling, guys. Got it. Don't tell me what to do. We have literally spent the last three days, four days. How many fucking days is it now? It's currently Sunday, Thursday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, four days, four days, four days of pro wrestling. Don't you want to talk about something else? Well, it's what we have this podcast for to talk about something else. Talk about pro wrestling.
00:03:41
Speaker
Oh, you know, you guys don't want to talk about pro wrestling. You could always just check out my videos on YouTube. Oh, self promotion. Queen of the Ring wrestling. Self promotion at the top. Hey, while you're subscribing to Queen of the Rings YouTube channel, you should also rate, review, subscribe on ours. Leave us a nice review. And more importantly, give us that five star rating. If you like the podcast, we'd really appreciate it.
00:04:04
Speaker
I feel like some of you are just now tuning in after hearing a weirder episode that was just released where we were yelled at by MJF.
00:04:14
Speaker
MJF, man, who would have thought just a few months ago that MJF, after all the history he has with us, would be the opening match on the main all in card? I've been confident of this. You have? I'm not confident about many things, but when we saw him at AAW, I said he's opening all in. He's all in? Even though that wasn't even a dream yet. That's what I'm saying. Who would have thought?
00:04:39
Speaker
I didn't think he was going to open it up. I thought he was going to be in the battle royal. That's what I thought, too. Yeah. So I was surprised when it like plus the Burberry scarf theme for his video. Yeah. Oh, and those those tights. Oh, right now. I don't know if you ever heard that you sound like Tom Waits right now. That's amazing. And that's a compliment there. Thanks.
00:04:59
Speaker
I remember there was a commercial where they wanted Tom Waits to do a Doritos commercial, and he didn't want to sell out. So he said he wouldn't do it. They got somebody who sounded like Tom Waits. Tom Waits still sued them. And the judge said, there is no... How do you word it? He said something about...
00:05:16
Speaker
There's no mistake in the sound of a man gargling glass. And he and he ruled in the favor of Tom Waits. So I can't impersonate Tom Waits. It'll shut the podcast down. Oh, shit. Oh, yeah. Yeah, we're going to have to. You're out. I'm out. You're all out. That makes this easy. Yeah, you could join Flip Gordon in the corner. Actually, speaking of, he won the Battle Royal last night. How did you feel about that? I predicted it. I thought he was going to win it.
00:05:46
Speaker
they were going to somehow like throw him in. The crowd really, really liked Flip Gordon. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That was one of the few things that they were actually very vocal about last night. I think that's, this is an important thing to talk about with that show. The expectations of the energy of that crowd. Yeah. I think the loudest pops were for everything that referenced the show being the elite.
00:06:10
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. That's true. But Pentagon. That's true. I didn't see that coming. I didn't know Pentagon was, you know, ten thousand plus arena big. Oh, apparently he is. Yeah. I'm back, by the way. Shut up. I'm sorry.
00:06:29
Speaker
But no, I mean, the Cerro Miedo is really fun to say. And I think the whole crowd got way into that. Yeah, I was surprised. I thought everyone would be behind Kenny because, you know, he doesn't wrestle much in the States. And I don't know how much opportunity people get to see Kenny, but it was that was the best match of the night, in my opinion. I'm not just saying that because I'm a good old dirty old Kenny Mark.
00:06:52
Speaker
I think we all probably have different favorite matches on this one. I think it's closed for whatever you pick, right? Like you're not going to think that one is head and shoulders above one of the others, right?
00:07:02
Speaker
I mean, there wasn't, I guess in retrospect, there was maybe one kind of bad match. I don't want to call anything bad. I don't want to complain about this show because it was so fucking important. And I mean, I couldn't sleep last night because I was up just thinking about how awesome it was to be there. And you couldn't sleep the night before because you were thinking about how awesome it was going to be to be there. Yeah, in two days I'm running on seven hours of sleep. Yeah, that's pretty brutal. Wait, which match did you think wasn't good?
Crowd Reactions and Merchandise Challenges
00:07:30
Speaker
Oh, a Mel. Yeah. That's kind of a clunker. Yeah. Quite a few botches. Like Christopher Daniels did what he could. And once again, you know, it's we're watching Ronda Rousey learn in real time. Yeah. I don't know what we're watching Arrow do in real time.
00:07:46
Speaker
He seems like a great guy. Is he a natural athlete? He's an actor, but does he have an athletic background? I think he supposedly does a lot of his own stunts and things for Arrow. What was he like, a football player? Did he do anything like that?
00:08:02
Speaker
Don't you mean like in high school? Yeah, you don't you don't know Stephen Amell's? The band what is the GPA was was he was he the editor of the yearbook? Yeah, no, I don't know most likely to be a part-time professional wrestler Most most likely to go to fantasy camp and fight Chris Daniels didn't work out too well for him though
00:08:25
Speaker
There was one spot in particular where he set up a table and then bumped Christopher Daniels off the edge of the ring and then Christopher Daniels pretty much had to walk and just lay down on the table. Was it like a zombie stumble walk and then he just got over there on his own and it's like, alright Steven, I guess I'll do this part for you.
00:08:48
Speaker
But you know what, let's move on to the other, every awesome match on the card. Let's get the bad one out of the way. What the fuck are we doing right now? Why don't we start off with the very first match, which is the Briscoes versus SCU? I think that was a great one to start with. Yeah. I think both of those teams are very, like, well, first of all, the Briscoes are veterans of ROH. So everyone, like, I guess you made the point that some of the people in the crowd you don't think were regular viewers of being the elite.
00:09:15
Speaker
Yeah, in my section, there was a lot of people really asking questions like, who is this? What is this? Why are there inflatable dicks coming out right now? Who is Joey Ryan? So it was interesting to be in that crowd for someone that knows, that watches regularly and knows everything that's going on. And just like, I didn't want to be that person to explain. Just like, this is my night. Don't fucking ruin it, please. But, um,
00:09:40
Speaker
Yeah. I thought that match was a good opener with SCU. Everyone's just, they're over. They're so over. They're like the Adam Cole, Bebe, Pop. The ROH crowds that I've been around have always been super into the Briscoes, wherever we've seen shows. So it was surprising that it felt like after they came out, after the initial booze, their entire walk to the ring, it was pretty quiet for them.
00:10:07
Speaker
It was pretty subdued, like SCU got the positive reaction. Oh, came out in the rocket costume. That was perfect. Yeah, it was great. They had just done the Philadelphia spot in the last episode. There's so, I don't know, just since the worst town thing, there's so much life pumped back into them. And it just seems like they have so much more energy.
00:10:30
Speaker
Yeah, that's what we were talking about. Like a year ago, they were nothing. They were just thrown together about them. And you even said that you thought Christopher Daniels was going to retire last year. Right. Yeah. I mean, after he dropped that title to Cody, I thought he's done. Why? What else is there? I thought it was nice that he had one more title run. But now at this point, I love the guy. I wouldn't be mad if he got the title again. And I'm glad he won against Stephen Amell. Fuck Stephen Amell. Yeah. Stephen Amell didn't show me shit. You work at a comic book shop.
00:10:59
Speaker
I don't give a shit. I don't watch Arrow. I'm more of a Marvel girl than a DC girl, so fuck Steven Amell. So, I mean, who from the Marvel universe should be wrestling next? Like, what's the next actor versus what's your dream actor versus wrestler scenario? Ooh. Who's the kid who plays the new Spider-Man? Tom Holland. I want to see him versus Marco Stunt. That would be excellent. And you can't tell me otherwise.
00:11:31
Speaker
That would be perfect. I think there should just be a new segment every week where we just pick a new opponent for Marco Stunt to see how funny it is. That's the gift that keeps on giving. I mean, yeah. Oh, it truly is like you could name anyone. You could literally name anyone. So the first match was SCU and the Briscoes. And you you brought up something. Well, I had never considered this. I you know, we do discuss a lot of wrestlers ring gear. Yeah. On this show.
00:11:57
Speaker
And you said, what? Why did they fray the bottom of these pants? Where do you get those pants? I believe was my exact question. Wait, whose pants? Briscoes. Oh, can you buy those hot topic in 2002? What was that conversation between the two of them? They're like, this is cool. See, when I think of the Briscoes talking to each other, it's just more grunts.
00:12:22
Speaker
Like before they hop on a flight, they walk to a muddy puddle near the airport and smear themselves with it. Then they hop on the plane and fly to wherever the next show is. It really like I looked. I was like, well, maybe they have warp paint. No, no, there's dirty. No, there's dirty. Dirty. They forgot to shower. It all comes back to what that guy said behind me at Supercard in New Orleans. Like, who the hell are these swamp monsters? That is exactly what they are.
00:12:49
Speaker
I picture if you walked through their apartment, it would just, if you had audio of that, it would just be the sound of aluminum cans moving under your feet. I think SCU is a perfect example of when you find your thing, it doesn't matter if you're being a dick, if it's funny, you're the babyface. Because SCU goes to every city and runs that city down, and people eat it up.
00:13:09
Speaker
Yeah. And we were talking today about different things that have gotten wrestlers over where all they were missing was one tiny element that kind of just pieced the entire thing together. Yeah. Like you brought up a new day. Yeah.
00:13:24
Speaker
There was a time where New Day was dead in the water from the get go. And then all it takes is something as simple as, oh, there's a trombone. Oh, the trombone has a name. Oh, a wrestler broke the trombone and now the trombone has a new name with the number two behind it. Like something just simple like that. Like even Chris Jericho's potted plant. What was its name?
00:13:45
Speaker
I'm so excited about your voice. Yeah, me too. I'll be excited when it's back to normal, but I'm gonna miss this voice So what was the other zero hours the battle royal what right? Yeah Were there really just the two matches? Yeah on zero hour
00:14:01
Speaker
Yeah, there were only two matches. OK. That was the best battle royale I've ever seen. Yeah. Yeah. That was a joy. That was really good. Jordan Grace is that I'm glad she got a really good moment in that battle. Yeah. Had you seen her wrestle before? Yeah, I saw her wrestle in the Bronx.
00:14:20
Speaker
Battle Pro. Oh man. I forget the promotions name. I'm so sorry, but I saw her wrestle and she had the title for a while and another wrestler. Is she normally an intergender wrestler?
00:14:34
Speaker
Yeah. Um, she wrestled recently. David Starr. Yeah. Oh, wow. Like, I mean, just I think this was really the first time I had seen her work and super impressed, especially. I was so happy they let her get to, you know, the final couple of people. Well, they picked the right guy to give her a moment with because he was the biggest. Yeah. Bulkiest guy in the match just to show what she was capable of.
00:15:00
Speaker
Watching her pick him up over her shoulders and she did she end up been eliminating him? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then she had a thing with bully Ray and then she Kolkabana helped her out and she did the deadliest signature.
00:15:18
Speaker
I think the biggest takeaway from that for me was how goddamn big Billy Gunn is. Yeah. Oh yeah. Even like walking around at star cast is like, Jesus Christ. I think because we were used to seeing him in the attitude era where when he's standing next to other guys who are also like six, five, you go, Oh, that's the average height. When you have guys like rock or triple H or whoever.
00:15:42
Speaker
And then, keep in mind, that was also an era where you had Big Show, Kane, Undertaker, and what, Test was pretty tall. This guy's like that, you're used to seeing tall guys dwarf these guys. And then you see these guys like Billy Gunn show up in an indie show where everyone's like six foot tall.
00:15:57
Speaker
Yeah, like somebody on the Indies like Brian Cage is who you think of as a giant. Yeah. And Billy Gunn towered over Brian Cage and he was in incredible shape. That dude's body was insane. He's ready for another world title run. I think there were so many spots in that match that are going to be hard to remember. Like Hurricane had a nice set there that he chokeslam two or three people.
00:16:20
Speaker
Yeah. Was it so Flip Gordon dressed up as Chico and bully Ray Romero in the match at all. Was he I don't because I think he was supposed to be but because he's Chico is what like he's Chico and BTE right. Yeah, I don't I don't remember him being in the match. I don't need honestly there were so many people so many people were even a few that I had no clue who they were.
00:16:48
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, I mean, that's easier for me to say, but like, I don't know. I loved Marco Stunt's spot where he was getting tossed around by everyone. The first like 10 minutes of the match, I look, where the hell's Marco Stunt? Just in the corner, outside the ring, getting the shit beat out of him by Bully Ray. Who did he have that chop spot with where he was trying to chop him and it was doing nothing?
00:17:12
Speaker
Was that Brian Cage? No, was that bully bully? I think it was bullied, right? Yeah, because he ended up fucking him up a little while later Yeah, and then Billy Billy Gunn like helped him out, but then he still just slammed him to the ground
00:17:30
Speaker
It just looks like a shirtless skateboarding dude that you would see like at the pool. What is that walk he does? What, the dance? He does this like, no, not the flossing thing he was doing, but the way he walks, he walks with like his chest out and his arms back really cartoony. He does like a wiggle. Yeah, oh.
00:17:51
Speaker
My boy, Chuck Taylor. Yeah, you were really pulling for him. I was really pulling for Chuckie T. Best friends. They even I saw they they did the classic best friends shot where they hug and then they zoom out. Yeah. Yeah. You know what they didn't get, though? What an intro. Yes. Yeah. Everybody was walking down the ramp. They're calling everybody. Chuck and Trent get to the end of the ramp holding hands, put their hands in the air. And then they just said the names of the people behind them. And then they shrugged and walked to the red. So sad.
00:18:19
Speaker
I just remembered Tommy Dreamer was in that battle royal too. Yeah. At one point he threw a trashcan in the ring and they started using that right? I'm surprised that ECW chant didn't go off. One did go off. It did? At one point yeah. I mean at this point I don't remember many chants at all in this thing. The show felt like we were in Japan.
00:18:41
Speaker
At different times it didn't. But I don't think it was because people were bored. I think people were just... Everybody seemed super into everything. I think we're just paying attention in and all. Yeah, I started a lot of all-in chants. And it seemed like nobody was willing to start it, but they were willing to pick it up. So I was... Like you said, I think it was more like...
00:19:04
Speaker
It was less Chicago people and more people like all around the world like international especially Coming in for its star cast we talked to people from fucking everywhere. I mean someone from Hong Kong Yeah, I was gonna say like somebody came from China to go to all-in
00:19:22
Speaker
I was surprised we met that girl today in the Okada line. And she said that she went to the Pro Wrestling Tees opening with the Bullet Club. And I just assumed because she was talking about going to the Pro Wrestling Tees shop so much. I assume she lived in Chicago. She said she lived in Alaska.
00:19:39
Speaker
She flew from Alaska for the opening of Pro Wrestling Tees. And then came in for All In in Meadow Conference Day. I just walked down the street. It's pretty easy to get there.
00:19:53
Speaker
Let's see. So Flip Gordon won the Battle Royal and he advanced to. Huge pop. You said you weren't surprised. No, I knew I knew he was going to fit in like as soon as I found out that Jay Lethal that was supposed to be for Jay Lethal's Ring of Honor championship. I knew Flip Gordon was going to go in. And didn't you say he resigned a five year contract? Yeah, he just resigned with them, but they teased Colt Cabana winning, which would have made a lot of sense since they were in Chicago.
00:20:22
Speaker
It came down to Bully Ray and Colt as the final. Well, who thought everyone thought that was the final two because we forgot the flip or Chico at the beginning gets put through a table and is outside of the ring for the entire match. As soon as that happened, I was like, oh, that's flip.
00:20:39
Speaker
That's a classic Battle Royal spot. The one you forgot at the beginning. I totally forgot he was there. It worked. I mean, it's classic because it does work. I guess the one thing that was interesting about the zero hour thing, because they had to work in all the commercials because they were being broadcast on WG in America, was there was a lot of downtime from the first match to the second match. So I think the crowd, that may have actually been a factor for the rest of the show. I think the crowd was ready to go.
00:21:05
Speaker
after the first match and then you kind of had to stand there and wait and everyone the crowd kind of came down after that I'm not saying it ruins anything but it definitely like I remember I turned to you at one point I was like well I wish they were running something right now to keep but that's a total Ring of Honor move yeah if you go to Ring of Honor shows there's just so much downtime in between matches that's true but a lot of people were trying to buy that merch and whoo that merch line
00:21:31
Speaker
Jesus. So we get to the building, get inside, the line is out the door. Just for the t-shirts and posters and pens and you said that there were people in line for merch all the way up until the Kinney match? Yeah.
00:21:47
Speaker
Yeah, that's outrageous. That's crazy. And you were saying when you went to the G1, there were people that just didn't go to their seats. They just lined up for merch, right? Not at the G1. That was it. I had heard people say that when New Japan had their first show in Long Beach. Oh, OK. They said that there were people that just stood in that line the entire time and never even got to their seat, like just watched from that line.
00:22:10
Speaker
I would say that's one that's one little complaint about all in was they should have had that merch at Starcast. Yeah. Because I feel like a lot of people would have just bought it me personally. And I think all of us were really like we wanted to buy the T-shirt at the event. But I think a lot of people that line was so massive just because all that merch just wasn't at Starcast because like in WrestleMania for supercar the superstore they sell the commemorative cups.
00:22:39
Speaker
and they sell all the shirts so that's why it's easier and that's why I guess those merch lines are shorter. They probably could have thinned the herd a little bit if they had something set up outside too because people who arrived early like they could have gotten their stuff before they got in. Yeah like a truck. And they would have needed to go to the merch booth. Yeah. Like do the WWE thing set the trailer up outside.
00:23:00
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I do want to give a big thank you to Steven for letting me skip the line. Yeah, thank you, Steve. Steven, my guy. Yeah, my guy. If I had my voice, I would do my cable guy, Steven. Steven? Oh, yeah. Steven? I guess, yeah. Thank you, Steven. We got lucky because we brought our front of the line pass to the merch booth.
00:23:22
Speaker
Some of this Roman reigns the shit out of that line, jumped over everybody else and got right ahead. And not only, yeah, it wasn't like we jumped ahead and got one t-shirt. Spend a couple hundred dollars on merch. We got eight t-shirts and two pins.
00:23:43
Speaker
So thank you, Steven. Yes, Steven, you are the man. You make life worth living. That shirt is wonderful. There's some deserving person at the back of that line that really, really deserved a shirt and stuff, and they didn't get into the show until a couple matches in. I was a little surprised of the selection for a team that is known for just how many fucking shirts they make.
00:24:10
Speaker
It was kind of a small selection of the all injured. Did they outsource for that? Or was that through Pro Wrestling Tees? Because they didn't have the Pro Wrestling Tees logo on the shirts. Yeah, they probably outsource.
00:24:21
Speaker
How dare they? Pro Wrestling Tees is hurt. Bad, bad boys. Joey Janela must have done this. Before we move on to the rest of the matches, can we talk about the fact
Sponsors and Comedic Segments
00:24:30
Speaker
that this show was sponsored by Cracker Barrel and TGI Fridays and Hot Topic? Yeah. That's wild, right? That's really good. That's a group of companies you don't see playing nice.
00:24:44
Speaker
especially when you think of how like Hot Topic was back in the day to be with Cracker Barrel. Those are self-made sponsorships too. Yeah. Like this just from that's like Gorilla sponsoring like they they they give them their business and next thing you know boom they're sponsoring the biggest indie wrestling show of all time. You know I support both of those places. I've bought pink hem t-shirts from Hot Topic and I have played that peg and hole game at Cracker Barrel. And how many rocking chairs do you have in your house?
00:25:14
Speaker
I don't have any seating other than rocking chairs. Oh, that's it? Yeah. I mean, when I see the Bullet Club use something, that means that's what I use now. So you're just going to lie to our listeners like that? I'm not lying. You have nothing. Right now I'm wearing that Bullet Club clone. Have you seen that? Is that real? That's real. You can get it from Japan. Why didn't they have that at the merch table?
00:25:35
Speaker
Poor planning? I would have loved that. Would you have dropped like 70 bucks on a bottle of Bullet Club Cologne? If they let me sample it maybe. What does Bullet Club Cologne smell like?
00:25:49
Speaker
Like when you picture that, is there anyone that... Is it the smell of Ming? It's the smell of Vince McMahon's tears. Salty. Old. It just smells like mothballs. Full of testosterone. If you drink it, you get strong. And red.
00:26:13
Speaker
Watch out for her quads. This is going to be piss. Speaking of strong, Tessa Blanchard during that match? Good. Yeah. That's the first time I saw her live. I'm glad it was at all in. I didn't realize how awesome Chelsea Green was until this match.
00:26:26
Speaker
Yeah, me too. I've never seen her either. I don't think I've seen any of those women live, actually. Yeah, that match. That was good. I was proud of it. We were talking before we went in saying, you know, they only have one women's match. They made it a fatal four way. But for what they did, that was incredible. I mean, the beginning of the match was just straight up wrestling.
00:26:49
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. It was really fun to see them, you know, doing all the reversing the pins over and over again. I think one of my favorite things about wrestling is when you watch for long enough and then you see like somebody with an original gimmick and you go good on you haven't seen that one before and like the crazy bride hot mess gimmick that she came out with. I was surprised she did a woo woo woo.
00:27:09
Speaker
Yes. Yeah. Yeah. And I totally expected a Brit to do a Brit breaker baby. That would have been cool. Yeah. Some people did get booed. I heard some people do try and do the Adam Cole baby and then people like shut up. Yelled shut the fuck up.
00:27:27
Speaker
Yeah, because there were people in my section that were doing the woo woo. And I thought like, oh man, she's her own person. Don't compare it to Zach Ryder. And then she did it. And I was like, well, fuck whatever I just said. Yeah. Thought. I mean, it'd be funny if that was the thing that set Vince off. Like the Zach Ryder spot. That's enough. They've crossed a line. Season desist. I just fire Ryder. That's how he deals with it. Oh my god, they might.
00:27:53
Speaker
Well, he's not doing anything, so. Yeah, it's actually a blessing. Hey, Zach, you're all in. And then Dolph Ziggler just doesn't have anyone to ride with anymore. Well. But no, you would just mention this. Tessa Blanchard.
00:28:08
Speaker
She gorilla pressed somebody through, I don't remember who she picked up. Was it Madison Rain? That sounds right. I think so. When you watch a five hour show, it's hard to remember everything. Every detail, yeah. Especially when you're running on pretty much four hours of sleep and within the four days of wrestling. What happened with the finish?
00:28:26
Speaker
I was going to ask you what happened with the finish because I couldn't see from my section. I was in the floor and I was in the last section. I mean, the last row. It looked like it was supposed to be a broken up pin attempt and the ref never hit three. I mean, from where I was sitting. Yeah, maybe he did. Maybe we need to rewatch.
00:28:45
Speaker
Maybe we do need to rewatch it but when the ref was holding Tessa Blanchard like she looked confused and then she was just like oh well I'm just gonna run with this cuz you know she's a professional but yeah that was exciting to win yeah but yeah that was weird but it was nice that she had the moment with the ladies and they all were in the middle of the ring and held all their hands up so that was cool
00:29:09
Speaker
Yeah, they did that a lot throughout the night where it feel good moment at the end of the match. They ended with just people shaking hands and being buddies at the end and just kind of congratulating on, you know, putting on a good show. Well, we were all saying this like this show for us felt like we were the proud mamas and papas for them. You know, I said that to you. So I think they knew like.
00:29:34
Speaker
They were able to break Capeave just a little bit and just celebrate, you know, curtain call that. It was a hip crowd. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The second you start saying proud mamas and papas and I have to start thinking back like like my voice is going to break up at some point and I'm going to be the it's still real to me. Yeah. Guy. Absolutely. Who I found out does follow us on social media. That guy does. Yeah. What's his name?
00:29:59
Speaker
We should've came prepared, we could've gave him a shout out. There was a day that I got to follow and I was like, the fuck is this? Click, and it's still real to me, damn it, guy. That's cool. That was his description, so. Awesome. Yeah. Thanks for listening, bud. No.
00:30:17
Speaker
When we walked into the arena, I remember I looked over at you and you just you were glassy eyed and you had that dumb smile on your face. Yeah, I got a really good video of us that will be on my vlog later this week. My YouTube channel of us just like seeing the the stage for the first time that took my breath away just to see it finally because I was trying to avoid it so much on social media.
00:30:43
Speaker
When you, I don't know, when we go to WrestleMania, to me, the most exciting part of the day is first getting through the doors of the arena, walking through that curtain and seeing the stage for the first time. Yeah. And this was incredible. It's like that across sports, though, too. Like it's the same feeling like if you go to a ballpark and you come up under the out of the tunnel and you see the green grass. It's the same thing at a wrestling show. You come up out of the tunnel. What's the set look like? Holy crap. That was awesome.
00:31:10
Speaker
This one was just so special because it was just the first all in. Like we kept saying all weekend, it's the first, it's like the first WrestleMania. So just to see that set for the first time and to be in that atmosphere like, oh man, I'll never forget it. It gives me, oh goosebumps. I mean, it really, walking in, it was just the boys that we used to watch in the bingo halls.
00:31:32
Speaker
on a full like WWE sized production production scale. Well especially for you because you saw them at PWG. I would say most of the people on that card I have seen at PWG like watched in the just watching a tiny room hot sweaty shitty room in a
00:31:52
Speaker
And even just two weeks ago when we saw most of them lost in New York. That's true, yeah. Yeah. I think the thing that's really incredible about this show is how big and important it is. And maybe a guy like Joey Ryan, who may have gotten the biggest pop of the night. That's debatable, but huge pop. And then next week, he'll be performing in another small venue. You go from all in in a 10,000-seat arena, and then next week, it's back, boom, back to the indie thing.
00:32:18
Speaker
And it's just a snap back to reality. Well, there goes gravity thing. It's almost like us having to finish up a five day weekend of just nonstop wrestle talk and interacting with just all wrestling and having to go back to work. Yeah. Yeah. But I think they're still going to have a good time. I think they're going to be riding that high for a long time. I mean, the show changed the game. That was the feeling coming out of everything. Like things were different. Yeah, for sure.
00:32:47
Speaker
When was the last time you went to a wrestling show and while you were there it felt that important? Before anything even happened. Never. It was important before a single match started. Yeah, that was the very first time I've ever felt that way.
00:33:01
Speaker
Like just pulling up to the arena and seeing all in on the the marquee and just seeing Cody in the Bucks and Kenny. I think Stephen Amell maybe. Yeah. Yeah. Still in the corner. It was so special. I'm glad to share it with you guys. This for real. This was a fantastic weekend. Like nothing bad to say about that day. And I mean five hours flew by.
00:33:23
Speaker
Yeah, I wanted it to be a little longer. I was surprised that it flew by so fast. What was after that women's match?
Cody vs. Nick Aldis Match Analysis
00:33:30
Speaker
I can't remember. Was it the Ring of Honor? Well, the opener was MJF and Matt Cross. Cody and Nick Aldis was actually pretty early in the card.
00:33:40
Speaker
It was the MJF, and then it was Stephen Amell, and then it was the women's, and then it was Cody. That would make some sense. Which, one of the best stories of the night, Nick Aldis, I am sold. I'm sold on that guy. I wasn't sold before all in. I'm sold now. That guy, good looking guy, huge. You've got matching glasses? Yeah. I feel really good about that.
00:34:10
Speaker
I mean, that's a perfect example of a situation where even though he dropped the title to Cody, it's only going to actually help him in the long run because he's going to be able to come back and say, Cody couldn't beat me. All he could do was roll me up. It wasn't like he hit crossroads and finished him off. Cody lucked out. I mean, if we're getting a rematch for that in Nashville at the 70th anniversary show next month,
00:34:36
Speaker
That is gonna be hot you lucky son of a bitch you're gonna go to that aren't you I think this is a point I had made several times We've all talked about it at this point But I think that batch very well could have and probably should have gone on last Because it was the emotional climax of the show
00:34:52
Speaker
Yeah, but he had a Vince McMahon that whole show in the back, you know? Well, I get that part of it. Yeah. I really liked for that match. It was treated like UFC and it's almost I felt I felt as if it was kind of a slap in the face to the WWE like this is how you combine UFC with wrestling with the weigh ins with the face off at a star cast. And even before the match, just like the walk
00:35:19
Speaker
The fight feel. Yeah, that fight feel like backstage. They're walking and they have their like posse with them. And then I got it. I got a tear when Cody walked out with DDP and Tommy Dreamer. Not so much glacier, but why not?
00:35:34
Speaker
Which you mentioned, Glacier's biggest career achievement. Yeah, it was probably the biggest moment of his pro wrestling career, is walking Cody to the ring and all in. Also, Pharoah got the biggest pop of the night. I felt so bad for Pharoah being in an arena as a dog. Oh, yeah. With thousands of people screaming. Music going loud. Pyro, yeah. The whole time they were going to the ring, I was like, poor Pharoah has no idea
00:36:02
Speaker
Well, you know what? I think the dog's kind of an asshole. He's got the same resting bitch face as Cody, so. Yeah. That dog comes out, looks like it doesn't want to be there. Cody spent the most important moment of all of our lives up until this point. And that dog couldn't at least. Couldn't care less. Bake a smile. You're cutting a promo on a dog right now.
00:36:23
Speaker
How'd I do? You did all right. I mean, MJF did it to me, so I had to pick on somebody weaker than me. If only. Wow. Somebody's got to build their self-esteem back up by picking on an animal. PETA's going to be pissed. A dog that raised $10,000 over the weekend for other dogs. What did I do? I ate a soft pretzel. Yeah, that's what she...
00:36:49
Speaker
Good Lord. That match was really, really good. But when Earl Heppner threw up the X, like my heart dropped to my ass. I was like, please God, no. I think everyone's heart sink because that was the one person on the card. You didn't want anything to happen. There was a big gas. Did you hear that? It was like throw out the whole arena air got sucked out. Yeah. I mean, other than the Jimmy Jacobs one that we saw. Oh, yeah. This I feel like was the first large scale
00:37:17
Speaker
you know, work, shoot, work, the work, the marks. Yeah. We know the lingo. We know we know the signals. They knew we knew. Yeah. So they use it with us. Yeah. Yeah. And it was like, thank you. Thank you. I liked it. And then he pleaded himself under the table. Oh, yeah. If I for the NWA title that his dad's title, he needed the man. Can we talk about how great that belt looks?
00:37:42
Speaker
Yeah, that's a good looking belt. That's one of my favorite as far as belts go. That's one of my favorite looks. That's that's a handsome belt. I teared up a little bit when he won when Cody finally beat him. I I teared up as well. But honestly, like you said, if that match would have gone on last, everyone would have cried so hard. That celebration would have been just so much
00:38:05
Speaker
It was good, but it just would have been a little bit more touching, I guess, to just wrap it up with that show, with that match, especially how it went down the way it did. It was perfect.
00:38:17
Speaker
I think they kind of, okay, so like it's SummerSlam, Samoa Joe, AJ Styles goes on 90 minutes into the thing, and everybody was a little confused. It didn't go the way everyone wanted. I thought it was a great match though, but. This was almost like, like you said, showing how to have a big fight feel and have a world title match in the middle of the show and still have it be that important and continual. I think it helps when you have three world champions on your card.
00:38:46
Speaker
You mean the the Bucks? Oh, yeah, Kenny Omega, lethal, Kenny and all this. If you don't want to carry the title out, are you really the champ? Oh, God, don't make me drop. You know what? I bet Kota Bushi lost it at the airport. He probably made along with his wallet. Probably made the mistake of having him watch his bag. Good Lord. Kenny's like, are you shitting me? Oh, did one thing in the middle of that match that we didn't discuss the DDP spot.
00:39:15
Speaker
Oh yeah. Crowd reacted to it. Did DDP ask for that? Or did Cody want to have a legend spot in the middle of it? I think Cody wanted a legend spot in the middle of it. It seems like out of all the people that walked out with him, DDP is the closest to Dusty. So maybe he wanted him to give him something back. I don't know if I was nuts about it, because I wanted that moment to be all about Cody.
00:39:43
Speaker
I see that, but also as a kid, that was also my favorite wrestler. And I never got to see DDP wrestle live. I didn't hate it. I just if I was doing things, I would have done it differently. But obviously, I'm not. You're not Cody Rhodes. I'm not sitting here on a couch. I'm not. You wish I was, though. If you were Cody Rhodes, we'd have so many subscribers. Oh, my God. We had our chance this week and then we blew it.
00:40:08
Speaker
What was our chance? I don't know when we saw him coming in with Pharaoh. Oh, but you don't like Pharaoh. That's why you didn't approach him. Well, I was fine with Pharaoh when I saw him then. He walked into the hotel with confidence and style. Yeah. He didn't walk in like Okada. He wasn't hiding. He was strutting his stuff. We kissed and made up. So I'm cool. Yeah, that was kind of interesting.
00:40:27
Speaker
Yeah, do you feel like a weight is lifted off your shoulders? What happened? Tell everyone what happened. Okay, so after, well, everyone doesn't know what happened after the the pay-per-view because it cut off.
00:40:43
Speaker
off the stream, but they they were on the in the ring. They did a speech. They were leaving and Cody was really taking his time around and ringside, just taking selfies with people, talking to people, thanking them for coming, signing autographs. And I was near the ramp and I got on top of a chair and he was coming up to the ramp and I was recording so you could see that blog on my channel later. And
00:41:14
Speaker
I just said, oh, hi, I'm the girl that you spit beer on at supercard. And he said, thank you for coming. And I said, it was an honor. It was that.
00:41:25
Speaker
That rubs me the wrong way, and I'll tell you why. Because all of his buddies seemed more concerned about it than he did. That's very true. Well, before he got to me, it looked like he was really going to go one by one thinking everybody ringside. And then a crew member came up to him and whispered something in his ear. So then he kind of rushed it. I think if that crew member didn't tell him to hurry up, I would have actually had some time
00:41:54
Speaker
with him. When I met the Bucks at Starcast, anyone that I tell like Kenny and the young Bucks and even Colt Cabana that he spit on me, they always acted if I was okay with it. And I told them it was an honor. And Matt Jackson actually got a real kick out of that.
00:42:13
Speaker
All of Cody's cohorts were concerned and upset by it, and Cody to this day is still defiantly defending his actions. Still some heelish tendencies. He even has a baby face. He's a true heel. But also, you were looking for an apology on the biggest night of his life.
00:42:32
Speaker
How dare you? How dare you? You selfish asshole. Oh, well. You probably went and told Brandi, can you believe this shit? Can you believe this? She's looking for an apology. I just made this many people smile. Somebody get me a drink. Look at this. No one complained. No one chanted CM Punk tonight in Chicago. I fucking cheered for him and booed Nick. What more do you want from me? He's like, I could hear you during Kenny's match. Listen, I put Cody over, whatever. Yeah.
00:43:03
Speaker
So, I don't know what match was next, but Jay Lethal and Flip Gordon, did that go the way you thought it would? The crowd was really quiet for that one. I mean, there were so many... It was like every other match was really quiet. But it wasn't like it was quiet because it was bad. I mean, we got a comedy match for the ROH title.
00:43:22
Speaker
Yeah, which was a great comedy. Yeah, it was a great comedy match. But again, I feel like everyone was like, what the fuck is going on? Because some of them don't watch the elite. They were. Yeah, they weren't in on it because the whole running bit is whenever somebody touches Jay Lethal, he turns into Macho Man.
00:43:42
Speaker
And that it's fantastic. But again, in my section, everyone's like, why the fuck is he dressed up as Macho Man? Like, what is going on? It's just like, oh, man, we can't we can't go back and review now. Jay had some great spots with Brandi there thinking that he's Miss Elizabeth. That was really entertaining. That was perfect. I absolutely love that.
00:44:03
Speaker
It's so crazy that there was a pay-per-view based around a YouTube series. Yeah. Yeah. Good for them. And they say, hey, at the end of the show, they said, you guys love this stuff. We'll keep doing it. So I mean, do you have this in your future?
00:44:20
Speaker
Me? Yeah. Running a wrestling show through Queen of the Ring? You have a YouTube series. I think we need to think bigger. I think we need to think bigger than just a show. You should have a theme park based around your YouTube series. We can have a water slide where it's Cody spitting stuff out, and you come out on a raft. There's like the teacups, but it's your shoe. I was just going to say that. You can have a merry-go-round around Marty Scrull's umbrella.
00:44:49
Speaker
Yeah, we're not thinking big enough The I don't know this whole weekend was about believing in yourself dreaming big you're gonna get your theme park So flip doesn't win the roh title to create a drug for you
00:45:06
Speaker
I mean, were you surprised that Flip didn't win or did it make too much sense after Cody won the title? It would have been weird for Jay Lethal to lose the belt in a comedy match. As Macho Man. At a not-ROH pay-per-view. Yeah, and it keeps Flip like the underdog, the ultimate underdog, so I'm glad he didn't win.
00:45:25
Speaker
I also liked Flip's spot when he Hulk Hogan and was like shaking his head no on the U. That was great. That match is really good. So many references to WWE throughout the entire night. That match was a WWE style match in terms of the wrestling too, which was perfect.
Hardcore Match and Comedy Highlights
00:45:43
Speaker
That match was great.
00:45:44
Speaker
It was so great with every time his shoulder got touched going back and forth between Jay Lethal style and Macho Man style. Yeah. And it was hilarious because when he would come back as Jay Lethal, you could see he was visibly confused as to where he was and what was going on. Yeah. Yeah. So we're going to need to spend a significant amount of time on this match. Joey Janela versus Hangman Page. There's so much to discuss here. This could be its own episode. I'm going to say this was my favorite match of the night. Yeah. Yeah.
00:46:14
Speaker
makes sense. It was what I was most looking forward to going in and I got exactly what I wanted out of it. It's not often that you get the exact match you pictured in your head. I really loved going a little bit back to the Jay Lethal match. I really loved how
00:46:32
Speaker
Committed everyone was from this from the skits that they did on the YouTube show being the elite going down to like even when Adam Adam pages face When Joey Ryan came out and even like just Jay lethal like committing to the macho man Like it was just perfect. Like I just I have to applaud them so much for committing to that but it was so good like
00:46:56
Speaker
you know, being a New Yorker and Tri-State area, I guess, to see Joey Janela in that in that arena and seeing him like two weeks ago in Los Angeles. Yeah, he was a hometown boy for me. So if I was like a little special, which I didn't even realize until he came out and I kind of got a tear in my eye because
00:47:15
Speaker
I guess because we just saw him like two weeks ago at Lost in New York and he tore the house down, or his show tore the house down. He did too. So it was like, well, am I a super Joey Janela mark? Or like, I'm so proud of him. Again, like proud mama. Was it surreal for you when we were able to get Joey Janela to reveal who the winner was of our two ticket giveaway to All In?
00:47:37
Speaker
No, because he was drunk and I usually see him drunk all the time in New York. But I mean like in terms of like a performer and how like committed and dedicated like that guy would do anything that table spot like off that ramp. Yeah. The hangman killed him. Yeah.
00:47:58
Speaker
The Joey killer chance. The Joey killer chance and just I every time you saw something get set up, you knew hangman's not going through it. They incorporated the cracker barrel barrel. They incorporated the phone into the match like the boots, the boots, the boots. Yeah, there's so much in this only thing they didn't do with the boot. Like, I mean, the match was already as absurd as it possibly could be. At one point, I thought the boots were going to talk.
00:48:23
Speaker
Yeah, in the match that we were gonna hear over the PA the boots talking to hangman shit talking him Yeah, I didn't even think of that actually. Yeah, I love the little Donkey Kong bit they had Yeah Everyone knew what that was
00:48:40
Speaker
But then the finisher, the finish to that match, they get a ladder set up in the middle, a table on the side of it. Joey, Joey Janela takes a rite of passage from the top of the ladder through the table head first to the mat. Basically like a reverse tombstone straight through. And then what happened?
00:49:03
Speaker
the best thing i've ever seen yeah that's anywhere that's in my entire life that's not unreasonable say out loud you said man that'd be really cool if they gave joey ryan an undertaker entrance oh yeah i guess they had thought of that because that's what they did pretty surreal um looking over and seeing eight penises marching up a set of stairs
00:49:25
Speaker
You wanna talk about a big middle finger to WWE. A lot of people consider Undertaker to be Vince's greatest creation and they did the ultimate spoof on Vince's greatest creation. And it involved a lot of people dressed as penises.
00:49:40
Speaker
Touching tips too. Touching tips. They lean in, gingerly touch tips, pull back. And the man himself is back. And first of all, the commentary during that segment was incredible.
00:49:56
Speaker
I mean, I need to rewatch the entire show, but it was just funny in the middle of a wrestling show for it to become so R-rated. And just so comedic. It was Don Callis. Going back to your point, everyone committed to the silliest acts from being the elite, and it wasn't an issue. So to anybody who has problems with comedy wrestling, Jim Cornette, fuck you. It clearly worked.
00:50:26
Speaker
So hey, it worked, but it ruined the business. Oh, yeah, sure. Yeah, whatever. What was after that? Also, wait, shout out to Penelope Ford during that. Yes. Yeah. Good. Good on you. Yeah. I would have felt really bad later listening back saying we didn't mention her. Yeah. You're welcome. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. Breaking out the stunner. I mean, honest to God, she was maybe one of the breakout stars of the night. Right.
00:50:54
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. Well, like going back to what I was saying, like, I feel like everyone had like a really good moment to put like for that mainstream audience of like, this is who I am. This is who we are. This is what we do. And this is why we're a little bit better than the deputy or at least owning pro wrestling.
00:51:13
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, even if people aren't watching being the elite, this was obviously a very big pay-per-view that a lot of people heard about. And I think a lot of new people saw these for the first time. And you're right, a lot of people got a good little showcase of
00:51:28
Speaker
Here's this person. Here's this person. And this is who this person like. Here's the show in grace. Like like this is who this this person is. She can go toe to toe with a guy twice her size. Penelope Ford. She's fucking badass. Very flippy. And she does a mean stunner. It was like we got a five hour pilot. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I like the way that you that you put Joey Ryan's thing. Like he got that WrestleMania moment. Yeah. Yeah. Was that you, Derek? That said that.
00:51:57
Speaker
Somebody did. Whoever said it was great. Good job. That was one of the most memorable things of the entire night. That's going to be one of the most memorable things I've ever seen in wrestling. Try to begin to think of something that's going to top that. I don't know. We saw Roman Reigns beat Brock Lesnar at the Barclays Center a few weeks ago. I totally forgot about that.
00:52:21
Speaker
That's a good bit. Well, we're just I need you to remind me of what some of the Don Callis lines were before. Oh, God. He has come again. The resurrection. The resurrection. Well, what was the cacophony of the what the cascade of costs? Cascades of Cocksman. Something to that effect. Good Lord. The only thing is a good. The only thing that was missing was the prodigal dick has returned. That was the only thing that they could have added.
00:52:50
Speaker
But that super kick to drop the lollipop down the pants, pop it in his mouth and super kick his fucking head off. That was the perfect, and then we didn't even talk about this. You just turned into lorinitis. I'm sorry. All right, for anyone who didn't see all in, Hangman Page was carried to the back by eight giant penises, and it was the greatest moment in the history of the business.
00:53:19
Speaker
It's my new superpower. I made you cry. Garrett. I love John Lornitis. I would love to hear him explain anything. You know, I could just do a Jay Lethal. I could literally do this podcast to the end of time as John Lornitis, because I don't think he can afford the same lawyer as Tom White. Every time I smack you on the shoulder, it's like, welcome to pre-determined to pro wrestling to hang out.
00:53:50
Speaker
That's a guest I would have been uncomfortable with. I would have loved that guest. I probably would have asked him a lot of questions about the Bellas. I would have asked him nothing but questions about CM Punk. What was next? Pentagon and Kenny Omega.
Kenny Omega vs. Pentagon Highlights
00:54:10
Speaker
I know Alex is going to have a lot to say about this. I just have a feeling in the pit of my stomach. I think we already did. We really didn't dive into it though.
00:54:21
Speaker
Yeah, I love that match. It was great. Is he your boyfriend in your mind? Kenny Omega? Yeah. OK. So your secret boyfriend? I like wrestlers for their wrestling skills. There's a lot of female wrestlers that are like, oh, Finn Beller, he's so sexy. I'm not like that with wrestlers. Kenny Omega is so different.
00:54:46
Speaker
I guess I could. Yeah, he's my boyfriend, I guess. Lover life partner. Restraining order. Pretty soon. I don't think I should get a restraining order because I took a bullet for him at Supercard. So you're welcome.
00:55:05
Speaker
He and Cody are on the same page now, so he might be able to say some things. Good or bad. He needs to stand up for you a little more. Kenny? Yeah, he needs to go get an apology out of him. No, he's too busy looking for Coda Obushi when he gets lost traveling. It's hard to keep track of that guy. I didn't know a ton about Pentagon going into this match. I can't believe he was able to reaction-wise go toe-to-toe with Kenny Omega.
00:55:35
Speaker
Have you guys seen Pentagon before all in life? I have seen him, but I haven't seen a body of his work. No, not live a lot of times. Like he was he was a PWG regular.
00:55:45
Speaker
Did you see him in that tag match with Kenny? Yeah, I saw the Bucks and Kenny versus, I guess it was Pentagon, Phoenix, and Flameda, I believe. So I actually have seen Kenny fight Pentagon before. Did he get that pop in PWG? I mean, granted, it's a different room. Pentagon was huge. Yeah, OK. Huge over there. I didn't realize he was that big. But he was also, I mean, I think a lot of our introduction to him was Lucha Underground. Yeah.
00:56:14
Speaker
I saw him at Major League Wrestling and he got that exact same pop. And I knew from about him through more of impact. But when I was in that room, I was like, oh, shit, I got to get on the Pentagon train, I guess. He's a very different type of luchador. Yeah, he's not the guy who's doing all the flips. He's more of like a hardcore. Yeah, he's a brief a little bit.
00:56:35
Speaker
What's up? He's a little bit of a brew like he's hard-hitting. Oh, yeah, he's brutal. Like he's a guy that you would want to see him fight in New Japan. I mean, I'm going to ask both of you this question. Was there ever a point in the match where you had Kenny winning in doubt? Yes. Yeah. Yeah, I was worried. Yeah. But also, if Kenny lost that match, I actually would have been all right with that with him putting over Pentagon. Why is that?
00:57:03
Speaker
Well, because I just, I kind of expected the bullet club to put everyone else over, except for Marty, uh, to put everyone else over for all in and except for Cody as well. I don't know. There were moments though that it was just, the crowd was so behind both of these guys. Yeah. But I think going in, we all thought there's no way Pentagon. They're not going to let Kenny leave this building a loser.
00:57:29
Speaker
Yeah, like that is a feel-good moment for a lot of people. But during the match for this man, it's a rare opportunity to see Kenny Omega in the States. And what, the last time he was here, we saw him at Supercard. That was the last time he was here. Oh, no, no, no. G1. G1. Yeah. But the Supercard left a lot of people. One of the more bad. Yeah. Well, they didn't mean it bad.
00:57:53
Speaker
That's what I was gonna say. We were talking about how All In was a little bit of a Bullet Club pay-per-view. That was kind of the theme, which is very similar to NWO Sold Out. And the mistake they made on that show was that it was an NWO pay-per-view, but NWO lost all of their matches on the show. Holy shit, I forgot about that. Yeah, what a fucking show up for a show and leave feeling depressed. It's like, I showed up and Lex Luger won every match. That's nuts.
00:58:21
Speaker
There was that point during the match where Pentagon did his like broken arm thing. Yeah. And that's what I thought. Yeah, I was worried. I jumped up and I was like, oh, shit. But I thought that could have made him a huge star. I mean, he's already a big star, but that could have made him.
00:58:40
Speaker
And that's why I thought it would be OK for Kenny to lose. And I thought I was just like, all right, fine. But then I was now thinking about it. I would have been disappointed, actually, because that would have been twice that I saw Kenny live and he lost with me. And that would mean that I was a bad luck charm. But I'm not. Thank God. Worked out for everybody. Still dating. Still dating.
00:59:03
Speaker
I don't think for all in that normal wrestling rules applied. This was a special show. In a way, it had house show rules where even if you lost as long as the performance was great, it didn't matter. Nobody was gonna walk away looking bad except for Stephen Amell.
00:59:21
Speaker
sorry Steven you know what even he's a he's a rich Hollywood actor he's doing fine he's fine Steven Amell is fine when Kenny won and the lights went off at first I thought yeah I thought
00:59:37
Speaker
there was a power outage and I was sitting in the second where I was sitting I was section G and I was in the last row so I was right behind or in front or behind whatever near the commentary section and that entrance way and when they brought Jericho well yeah we all know Jericho in there was a lot of people I thought it was the firing squad
00:59:58
Speaker
Yeah, so I got really hyped and I immediately went away from my row and I ran down the aisle Closer to the ring and then I already had a lot of problems with you at this show There was a point I looked down I thought you were gonna get kicked out because there was a guy Ushering you back and you had you you were standing down close and you had your camera up and it looked like he was a little bit like
01:00:24
Speaker
Oh, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It was the beginning of that match because I just wanted to get like that showdown for the vlog. Yeah. You held out for the longest time. I was so happy. I was still filming and I was listening to him and I was backing up and I was doing it slowly as possible. I was like, I'm still backing up, motherfucker, whatever. Yeah. But when I ran down the aisle, some brave soul screamed
01:00:49
Speaker
Oh my God, it's CM Punk. And everyone's like, shut the fuck up. Like they didn't say it, but I felt like everyone's vibe after that was like, shut up. And then I caught a glimpse of Jericho's tattoos and I knew it was him and I was jumping up and down. The second the lights came on and he stood up, you could tell those tattoos were different. Yeah, yeah. Jericho has that really distinct tattoo.
01:01:17
Speaker
Fuck like they were able to get them for the show. I mean, were you surprised going in? There was a lot of debate. Will punk be there? Will Jericho be there? And we'll never be there. Yeah. We knew there had to be a surprise. Yeah. But I was still surprised, even though it was something we had been talking about.
01:01:37
Speaker
Yeah, because we were just saying that Fauzi just did a show, like a few towns or a state over or something. They were near Nashville just a couple days ago, something like that. Well, they're in the area. Yeah. And everyone was even my tattoo artist from wrestling tattoos, Matt, even was saying that he was like, fuck this whole CM Punk theory. Jericho is going to come out. And I was like, oh, yeah.
01:02:02
Speaker
I was still surprised. I still popped so hard when he took off his mask. Yeah, it was good. Is it easier to get caught up and forget things when you're at the show live? 100%. Where you get sucked into the moment and then all of a sudden you go, oh yeah, this theory that I've been talking about for months completely forgot about it because I was here. Oh, for sure. I mean, also, we were there five hours and it never felt like that.
01:02:29
Speaker
Sometimes sometimes I I will get lost and I won't get lost. But for this show, because it was the first one and I was just so open to whatever they were doing, like I got caught up and I totally forgot.
01:02:43
Speaker
Yeah. And then Jericho ran out of the crowd and apparently in the process knocked Don Callis on his ass. I did love when Jericho picked up the mic and he was like Kenny Omega. We were all waiting for it. I did it in the voice. Yeah. And it would have been that would have been great. But I'll see you on the Jericho pulled out pulled a gun out of it. He had a drawer. He had shooting the television.
01:03:08
Speaker
He had his finger over the speed dial for his lawyers ready to go and he's backed off. When he pulled that mask off, though, and, you know, he joined the juggalo army. Jericho's fucking awesome. Enough with the juggalos, Garrett. So you've got a juggalo agenda for the show. Can we go to a J.C.W. show? Do those still happen? Yeah, we can. The festival just there was that was the summer, right?
01:03:37
Speaker
way i was the only place for me to see that at the gathering yeah i don't want to camp there's people who listen to this podcast that might be juggle those that may be where the thing saying i like i don't want to camp with clowns i don't want to camp in general yeah you're really bad at being an outdoorsman i'm not an outdoorsman you can't get me out you're an indoor boy i'm an indoor boy that's why i that's why i'm not going to go to the royal rumble this year because it said it well the major league ballpark that's in his indoors
01:04:05
Speaker
Well, see you in Arizona. Yeah. So it's pretty hard to follow a Kenny Omega match, but they found a way to do it.
Marty Scurll vs. Okada Match Analysis
01:04:14
Speaker
With Marty and Okada. Yeah. That went so much better than I think anyone would have anticipated. Yeah. See Okada sell for Marty. Yeah. And going back to your point earlier, the segment before the match with Marty and now, now Arthur.
01:04:33
Speaker
Arthur, what the fuck do you think? Broken finger party. That was excellent. And like I said before, you knew that he was going to get a big reaction because he has one of the best entrances entrances in wrestling. Yeah. And that was a huge reaction. And then Okada came out and holy shit. If you didn't know Okada is over as fuck in the United States, maybe the biggest pop on an entrance the whole night.
01:05:01
Speaker
Oh, yeah, yeah. At that point, like right when Okada's music hit, it clicked with me where it's like, whoa, I this will probably be the only time I ever see Okada wrestle live. And maybe everyone else thought that that's why it was the biggest pop. I probably lost a little bit of my voice for Okada. And then the money ran raining down. Yeah, that was awesome.
01:05:23
Speaker
And you were lucky enough to have the money rain right down on top of you. You had a stack. Yeah, I did. You had a fat stack. Should have got a rubber band for those. Yeah, the only thing that was annoying is everyone was so determined to get those bills that as the match was starting, there was a line forming that went down to the floor so people could go down there and security was handing people dollar bills. And I was like, this is bullshit. I want to focus on some wrestling here because we got one hell of a match.
01:05:52
Speaker
And I get it, I wanted those Okada dollars real bad, but I saw that you had a giant pile of them, and I was really hoping that you were going to be a great friend. And it worked out for me. Once again, thank you. Saving our asses here. That was the one match I was really looking forward to, and I missed it because
01:06:15
Speaker
Um, there was a lot of, there was a lot of people over six to sitting in my section that thought it was okay for them to stand. So I was standing most of the time and then I was blocking some people behind me and I was like, well, sorry buddy, your problem is my problem now. So I missed some of that match. So that was a little disappointing, but I did catch, uh, Okada doing the two Oh five.
01:06:40
Speaker
Jesus. That was so good. The whole night like I was saying just references galore to WWE. Yeah. Ocado with his fingers go two oh five for Marty Skirrell. I knew it was gonna be a good match when they did the the the the spot with the pressing against the ropes like you're gonna hit somebody in the face and then
01:06:57
Speaker
Pat in the chest and backing off. And then when it was Marty's turn, did the same thing to Okada, he turned and flexed like he was a heavyweight. And they really played up that storyline of a junior heavyweight trying to overcome a big guy like Okada. And holy crap did I pop hard for that power bomb.
01:07:16
Speaker
That match is why your voice is like that. I probably is because I lost my fucking mind. What powerbomb? Marty just deadlift powerbombed Okada. It is fucking wild. And he doesn't struggle. He got him and he dumped him on the back of his neck.
01:07:35
Speaker
like it was a badass fucking power bomb and I mean how many power bombs have we seen in pro wrestling a lot a lot but we've never seen a little guy like that with absolute ease pick up
01:07:50
Speaker
the longest reigning new japan champion and just fucking powerbomb i think what made it even better it was like it was like a frustrated powerbomb like he'd had enough of okada shit and he was like fine watch this shit marty looked like a fucking badass yeah and what was funny whole section down derrick on his feet two arms in the air for a powerbomb i haven't popped that hard for a powerbomb in my life i don't think
01:08:15
Speaker
Well, that breaks my heart a little bit more because I didn't know that happened. Yeah, it was good stuff. We'll go back and watch that. Hey, I was at Wrestle Kingdom and basically saw none of it. Like, you know, I mean, that's the that's the thing about sitting on the floor. Like you're going to struggle seeing sometimes, but it's yeah, it's the experience of being there.
01:08:36
Speaker
Thanks, thanks for relating. It was, yeah, it was a struggle to see everything, but it was cool to see everybody's entrances so close, so that was the payoff, I guess. There wasn't really a bad seat, would you say, in the Sears Center? No, yeah, yeah. I was surprised of how good that whole arena was. Everything felt so close. What was the restroom situation like, Garrett? I know that's your thing. Nightmare.
01:08:57
Speaker
Hellscape. How many piss breaks did you take? Two. That's it? Only two. It felt like you were gone a whole bunch, but that's probably because our entire row kept getting up every five minutes. That dude had to do the do. Yeah. Wasn't a nightmare for me. It was like that scene in Angels in the Outfield where they keep having that guy go, I want popcorn. I want a Mountain Dew. I want a soft pretzel. And we were up and down, up and down, up and down, up and down, up and down. I was getting frustrated. I about yelled at a kid.
01:09:27
Speaker
Sorry, that was not Marko Stone. But no, Alex just brought up something that is probably one of the greater things of being a female wrestling fan. Never a line for the bathroom. Good for you. Yeah. I go to the bathroom. There is just a massive line. That place, you know, we talk about the Wrestle Must. There is no Wrestle Must, like just a full arena of dudes who've been drinking all day. Only thing that would have been better is if it was like mid-July.
01:09:58
Speaker
I do make it a point to see that whole big ass line of dudes for the bathroom and just laugh and wait. There's 20 women in the building and 7,000 whatever 9,900 some odd men and they all talk to you. Yeah.
01:10:15
Speaker
Oh, God. But no bathroom lines. No bathroom lines. You win some, you lose some strikes and gutters, ups and downs. Yeah. Pretty wild Okada, Marty Skrowmach. It's a casual big Lebowski reference. I'm playing to a certain percentage of our audience right now. Oh, he's hip to that movie. To a cult classic. To a great film. Thanks for pointing that out. I feel like. Should I have just let that go? Yeah, you should have.
01:10:44
Speaker
Well, I mean, I'm looking at our our intern Christopher Kelly and it made him smile. Yeah. I'm glad I could bring joy to. Sorry. Let's get out of Big Lebowski. Yeah, thanks. I was going to say, were you guys surprised that Marty was the only one to lose his match? Well, end of the night.
Post-Match Discussions and Marty Scurll's Absence
01:11:05
Speaker
Big party because every every Ring of Honor show ends with an elite party.
01:11:11
Speaker
They invited everyone out from the Bullet Club. Everyone was in the ring but Marty Skirrell. And they made a point to say, everyone in this ring is sticking together. Maybe reading into it a little too much.
01:11:26
Speaker
I'm just saying, I'm just saying, I think Okada's on to something. Well, question, didn't he during that same promo say, Marty, get out here? Didn't he, he asked several people, he asked for his family to come out and he asked for Marty to come out. And Hangman. Yeah. You know where Marty was? In the shower? Plain to Orlando.
01:11:46
Speaker
Oh, I thought maybe Marty might have been like injured. That's why he didn't come out. But they probably have a post match routine. They go through like the ice down and everything. So he may not have been able to make it out because that was the second to last match took a beating. He did. He did. Actually, that's another match where I'll ask you guys was ever in doubt like for you with Marty and Okada.
The Young Bucks' Explosive Match Finale
01:12:07
Speaker
Well, I mean, going in, I think we thought Okada had the potential to lose just because of the way they were telling the story. And Marty, at any point, could have cheated to win. Like the umbrella spot or the, you know, when he locked the chicken wing in. Yeah. But there were a lot of moments, too, where I thought, holy shit, he's not going to cheat to win. He is going to get Okada to tap in the middle of this ring. Oh, yeah. Okada made Marty look like a million bucks. That was the story of that match.
01:12:36
Speaker
made a made a light heavyweight look like gold. Good for I feel like we're looking at you and you're just looking sad. That's true. We shouldn't be looking at you because you missed so much of the match. I feel bad about that match. Yeah, because I you deserve better. Yeah, I know. That's all right. I was in the building so I can't complain. What can you really say about the main event other than just that's pretty high spot after high spot after high spot. It's
01:13:01
Speaker
It's a good way to end a show like that. When you have people that are exhausted, why not go out there and just do the one that is the X Games of wrestling? Yeah. Didn't you say it's like the fireworks show, which is like letting it all out? Yeah. Any good fireworks show, it goes long, but the last minute of the show is then just unleashing hell. Yeah. And that's what a Young Bucks tag team match is like. So it makes sense that that's how you close the show.
01:13:29
Speaker
What did you think of the Young Bucks new theme song and entrance? As long as it has Superkick Party in it, I don't care what it is. That's fine. I loved that it was a cartoon of money raining on them. Yeah. I thought it was still all caught up money. So at one point I reached out and grabbed a dollar bill and it wasn't that.
01:13:50
Speaker
I didn't think it was funny and enjoy to be with it. Pixar films in the in the post show speech. Matt made a point to say like you know when I was doing the spot where I was running down the ramp I thought I was going to slip on Okada's money and bust my ass. You know jumping down on everyone. I don't know. I know that I wish they'd had about five more minutes maybe. They because the pay per view was wrapping up they had to cut it just short. But three seconds left. Yeah that's nuts.
01:14:19
Speaker
They said it literally ended with three seconds to spare. Yeah. They got one, two, three, three seconds later, the show went off. They'd taken a couple of minutes away from Steven. I have a question for you, though. OK. Because before this, you said you don't really have a connection with a bushy.
01:14:35
Speaker
like you didn't really get a bushy or you just didn't know what about him. I thought the Golden Elite was kind of made irrelevant the moment they decided to bring Cody and Kenny back together because I thought the whole idea was that the Bucks officially finally in front of everyone had chosen Kenny.
01:14:51
Speaker
and Ibushi. But other than that though, just him as a wrestler, how do you think he fit in that match as a wrestler? I think you and I talked about it for a moment while the match was going on. You turned to me and you said, I didn't realize how flippy and high fly Ibushi was until this match. And he blended in well with everybody in there.
01:15:13
Speaker
Um, the fact that we had that moment where Mysterio got tagged into the match the same time, a bushy got tagged in and they had that like showdown in the middle and everyone went ape shit for it. Wasn't expecting that to happen between Mysterio and a bushy, but, uh, yeah, I mean, do you have any thoughts on the lineup of that magic? Just the chemistry between like, I guess, like, is it weird that Bandito was in the main event of all in?
01:15:41
Speaker
when you step back and look at his place in the wrestling world, not to take a shot. I mean, the star power of all the guys in the ring. Yeah, out of everyone on that card. I didn't think it was so much like Ben Dito. I just thought it was just weird that Cody and Nick didn't headline, especially since that was the first match that was announced for that pay-per-view, right? Yeah. Yeah.
01:16:02
Speaker
Yeah, like I said earlier, it made so much sense. And just things can be formulaic in wrestling and they can be predictable as long as it's what everyone wants to, as long as everyone wants to see it happen. And I think everyone wanted to see Cody win that belt because it tied everything back to his dad. And that would have been a perfect closing of the show. Not a knock on the bucks in the six man tag. I just think that we're used to that emotional climax at the end of a pay-per-view.
01:16:30
Speaker
instead like it was just like a Bucks high-flying tag team match. I think the real emotional climax was Joey Ryan's return. Yeah, there's a climax reference. Good for you. Rest in penis. We didn't mention that. Shirt now available at Pro Wrestling T's. That's a free point. Rest in penis. Uh well, when we were in the weigh-ins and they announced that the six-man tag match was the main event, we like
01:17:00
Speaker
just like, did you gasp? Yeah, we gasped and we just like fucking flipped our heads to each other real hard and just like, what the fuck? Right. Oh, yeah. No, to me, that was one of the biggest announcements of the thing because I thought maybe they were going to open the show.
01:17:16
Speaker
Yeah, I thought they were going to open the show, too. I didn't think they were going to main event it. I thought it was going to be Nick and Cody. But in so many interviews that the Young Bucks do, they always close out Ring of Honor because it feels like like a rock show.
01:17:32
Speaker
so i felt so i think it was somewhat yeah they're the rock stars and they're the most out of them and cody they're the most popular ones yeah so it felt fitting for them to close out the show but it was just weird that it was like a six man tag match and also a six man tag match main event a pay-per-view like that's just
01:17:51
Speaker
weird to me. We've talked about this on the podcast before. A lot of times, we're not fans of clusterfuck tag team matches. It seems like it's what you do when you don't have a plan for somebody. And the Bucks, again, this shouldn't be a situation where we're complaining because it was a really fun match to end the show on.
01:18:11
Speaker
I think you put it best. Like there was a spot in there where all six guys got a flip in and took everyone out. Yeah. That was the that's the fireworks spot. Yes. Absolutely. Just boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. And then ta da. Yeah. That was that was your
Surprise Elements and Venue Speculations
01:18:30
Speaker
show. How much did you love Ray Mysterio coming out as Wolverine?
01:18:33
Speaker
I pointed it out to him when he came out on the stage. I'm like, oh my God, he's dressed like Wolverine. And then like five minutes later, as the match is going on, Garrett's like, it's hard to pay attention and focus when I just look over and see Wolverine standing on the apron. Yeah, I said he's distracting. I think
01:18:52
Speaker
Eli was the one that said he looks like a little kid who dressed up in his costume and ran into their parents like party like dinner party
01:19:07
Speaker
I think a 40 year old man that lives with his parents and just like came in the room in his pajamas like he's got the I thought it was kind of cool. The key room on that you always have Kenny and Cody and the Bucks. They always close out a show with the farewell speech.
01:19:26
Speaker
And I completely forgot until this moment, they gave Ray Mysterio some time on the mic before the rest of them started talking to get his comments in and thanking everybody for being a part of the show. Ray got a little promo there at the end. Yeah, I totally forgot about that. Wow. Yeah. Good for him.
01:19:42
Speaker
And then he took his team of losers up the ramp and to the back so that they could watch with everyone else behind the curtain, the team of dicks that were probably still in costume. I do feel bad for the people at home that didn't get to see that speech, but I'm sure it's online. Yeah, I'm sure it's online. But like to to be there live, like it felt so intimate. It felt so like like a like just the ribbon, like the bow.
01:20:09
Speaker
Cody said it. He said, notice. No one is left. Everyone is still here and everybody was still in there at the end of a WWE show. One, two, three. Everyone's run into their cars to beat traffic. Yeah. No one wanted to miss the end of what these guys had to say. And I think no one wanted it to end. Yeah. If they had said surprise as another five hours.
01:20:31
Speaker
I think only the parents with kids would have been the ones that left the speech at the end. Fucking waterworks. Oh, yeah. Yeah. If I try and start repeating some of it, I bet my voice is going to start breaking. So I'm going to I'm going to talk real deep. We I'm already doing that. So we would be remiss if we left out the fact that they did allude to an all in two. They didn't say they had a graphic. They didn't say they had details, but they said they've been talking about it. Where do you think that would be?
01:21:02
Speaker
And also which state arena do you think they could sell? Wembley. Wembley. Make it happen. 100K. I think they could do it in Madison Square Garden and I think they could sell it out. Easily. Easily. At this point New York
01:21:23
Speaker
I mean, the Ring of Honor and New Japan show sold out. They got to work in relationship with them now. And they could fucking sell that out. And it's in my hometown, baby. Lucky you again. You get to come to me. Yeah, sure. That's all right. The pizza's better. Yeah, I know. That, OK.
01:21:42
Speaker
Why don't you cut a promo on pizza? Real quick, they said, you know, this is pro wrestling. We wanted to show everybody the alternative. It was a beautiful, awesome. I cried. Everyone cried. We all cried. You from New York have a very specific idea of what pizza is. Yeah. You came to the the other city in the country that argues with you about their pizza. Yep. You didn't tell us what you thought about this pizza. Yeah.
01:22:10
Speaker
Well, when the waitress brought our pizza, I was not expecting that she was gonna use a gynecologist tool to carry the pan out. That really bugs you, doesn't it? It bothered me so much. I've never seen that outside of the doctor's office or as a sex toy. So it was weird. It was weird to see it on the dinner table. If it were just painted like a toucan, would it have been a little more festive and less sexual?
01:22:38
Speaker
I don't know, I guess, but it it freaked me the fuck out that I was eating pizza with a fork and knife. It was bothering me the whole time, and it took way too long to eat one slice of pizza. Mm hmm. All out of your system because when I respond.
01:22:58
Speaker
No, if you feel the need to respond now, go ahead. We like diversity here in Chicago. You call yourself the melting pot over there on the East Coast, but apparently that's not true because gynecology is apparently something to frown upon and incorporate.
01:23:16
Speaker
No, I like a wide variety of pizza. I'm accepting thin crust, New York style, deep dish, Detroit style. I love calzones even though it's a thing similar to Stromboli. Sometimes put a cheese in the crust. Yeah, not marshmallow though. Anyways,
01:23:35
Speaker
I like all the kinds. We say that about our podcast when people ask us where they can listen to our show and we say all the places, all kinds of pizza is amazing and I don't know, I'm not gonna shit talk New York pizza because it's fine.
01:23:54
Speaker
What what's what's wrong with that combination of ingredients what's so offensive about using do you guys not use utensils in New York? I just thought I could I thought I was like wasting my time eating one slice of pizza where I just could have picked it up Did you have somewhere to be and then huh? Did you have somewhere to be?
01:24:16
Speaker
You're wasting your time eating, but you. Well, it was my very first time eating deep dish pizza. I've always stuck with New York style pizza and it's just like being in New York. We have like dollar pizza and you know, it's just a quick, it's like a quick, uh, it's a quick meal. It's a quick on the go, fold it up, eat it, scarf it down. I don't know. How quick, how quick does it, did they get you your slice?
01:24:43
Speaker
How quick does what? How quick do you have your slice of pizza? How fast do I eat it? How quickly is it prepared for you in New York? I think this is a big difference. Me and Jane get to the point. Yeah, we waited like 45 minutes for that deep dish pizza where in New York you'd easily get that in five minutes. You know why? Why? Because there were a bunch of people in the building who wanted to actually eat that pizza and in New York all the pizza they have there is in those garbage bags that they put out on the street.
01:25:08
Speaker
That's so much. You're pissed. You are so angry right now. Oh, my God.
01:25:23
Speaker
Mediate, what are you doing? I think what's more impressive than anything is I had a slice and I have... There's people here who don't like D-dish, so I deal with this all the time. I'm inclusive with the pizza debate. It was a culture shock, I will say that. Oh, I'm sure. It was a culture shock, for sure.
01:25:40
Speaker
It was good. Don't get me wrong. I was expecting you to be skeptical for the record. Okay. Like when you bring somebody in and you try something different, most of the time, like the thing that they really, it's not the silverware aspect. It's usually the crust.
01:25:55
Speaker
I didn't have a problem with the crust. The crust was fine. I liked the doughy crust. Yeah, it was all right. It was a good pizza. It was just the way you had to eat the pizza. Like I asked you, I was like, so do we use our hands or no? And I felt like a savage for asking that question. OK, in the last two weeks, I have had New York pizza and Chicago pizza. OK.
01:26:24
Speaker
as a lactose intolerant person who never eats pizza. This is tough. I like feeling fancy with the fork and the knife. Like, you know, feeling like Costanza eating a candy bar with the fork and the knife. But I like the portability of the New York pizza. Have you shit yourself today?
01:26:46
Speaker
Here's the thing. Neither pizza made me shit myself. So it's all in your head. No, I think it has something to do with all the pizza everywhere else. Or did you take a bunch of the lactate? I ate so many lactate. That was the appetizer. They find me foaming at the mouth. I'm just dying on the street. The OD'd on lactate. I guess deep dish pizza just fits well with your lifestyle in terms of New York.
01:27:10
Speaker
No, no, no, no, no, no. This is not a this. This is not a this. I'm saying I'm saying where you're saying like like New York style pizza is so much more portable and it's it's so it's better on New York. Get up and go grab a slice. Yeah, they never sleep. I get it. We're fucking going, you know, and you're Chicago's just lazy piece of shit. You you people don't have anywhere to be. You don't have jobs. You're fucking poor. I'm sorry.
01:27:36
Speaker
There's a program called Saturday. You tapped me on the shoulder and MJF was coming up. Yeah. No, there's a program called Saturday Night Live based in New York City. And one of the skits they did on the show was called the Superfans. And the way they portrayed Chicago Bears fans was four dudes sitting around a table who weigh about 375 pounds.
01:27:54
Speaker
talking about football and basketball and Italian beef and I get it yeah no I look in all honesty I don't have a single bad thing to say about New York style pizzas so I'm not gonna fire any real shots over there I'll cut a nice promo for entertainment but I'm glad you at least tried it while you were here
01:28:19
Speaker
That was literally the only tourist thing I did, Chicago-wise. Besides seeing the progressing tea straw. And seeing punk, our mayor. That's true. You guys still claim him? We're going long here on this one, but I do think we need to talk about a couple meet and greets real quick before we go. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:28:44
Speaker
Well you guys did the meet and greet, so what
Meet and Greet Experiences
01:28:46
Speaker
the hell were you looking at me for? I was the only one that did meet and greets. You met CM Punk in the middle of his 12 hour marathon. In the middle of his 12, oh yeah, yeah, yeah. He did a meet and greet from like 9 a.m. to 8 p.m. I think it went on to 10 p.m. Somebody has a picture with him, but down below he's just peeing in a jug. That guy was not taking breaks. Hangman Page is drinking it.
01:29:12
Speaker
Yeah, he was he was nice. I was I wasn't expecting him to be a dick, but he was nice. He didn't have a beard, which when I told everyone at Starcast that they were really shocked and he had a polo shirt on. So everyone kept calling him corporate punk. You look nice. He looks nice. Yeah. Yeah. Look like you got a portrait with your dad.
01:29:34
Speaker
I think we talked about this, but he definitely knew what he was getting into having that many wrestling fans line up to meet him. If he really didn't want to deal with that shit, he didn't have to. That's true. But everyone in that line like didn't look like they wanted to give him shit about Colt Cabana, you know? Yeah. So I think it was it was it was a good balance. But meeting Okada today was amazing.
01:29:59
Speaker
So handsome. He said he smelled great. He smelled amazing. Yeah. Was he wearing that bullet club cologne? Oh, no. No, no, no. That was like Armani or something. Oh, Jesus. Where? How would you describe it? I don't even. Magic and smiles. Smiles. Scooby dooby doo. And the joy you get from seeing a balloon let the air out and float away.
01:30:30
Speaker
That's how it felt. I'm glad you got to meet Okada and get your program signed. So now your Wrestle Kingdom program has been completed and I am static about this. Frame it. It's going to be framed. It's going to be put on the wall. Okada and Nido signatures side by side on the Wrestle Kingdom 12 program. Couldn't be happier.
01:30:51
Speaker
And we got a picture with him. We didn't really know what to do in the beginning. But I think it turned out good. We still got to see the picture, actually. I'm nervous about it. We made an agreement going in. We're just going to smile. We're not going to do anything with our hands, because we want to do the Okada hand gesture. We get in there. We both shake his hand and say hello. Lovely smile on the man. I feel like this weekend has just been a lot of wrestlers with lovely smiles. You don't hear enough about their smiles.
01:31:20
Speaker
If anything, this is that's what we cover on this podcast that others don't. But so we get in between. He's in between us right before they take the picture. He puts both hands up in the position and that fucked me up because now you had to play along. Like, oh, is this like Okada tried to fuck me or what was the code? Oh, my God. We're going to have to incorporate that into like one of our next episodes.
01:31:42
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Yeah. I'll put it out before this one. Cody tells a great story at Botchomania at Starcast. Just wait for the audio. It's worth it. That ref tried to fuck on me. Okada fucked on us.
01:31:56
Speaker
We picked up the ball though because you put your one hand out and then that was a panic move Yeah, it was like that could have been the worst picture ever Where we had agreed to not do a thing and I'm just like I see Okada do it and I'm just like well obviously he's the coolest man in the world I should do what he's doing my hand goes up I saw your hand go up from the corner of my eye and I was like
01:32:18
Speaker
I put my hand up, but then we agreed. We were like, damn it. If we knew he was going to do that, we totally could have young bucks him. Yeah, that would have been glorious. Yeah. We fucked up. We fucked up. Was it a bad picture? We haven't seen it yet. We haven't seen it yet. Oh, it took a while for the punk one and they're taking a while now. Let's see.
01:32:39
Speaker
Let's see right now. I wish I didn't smile. I wish I looked tough in the picture. Now I'm smiling with a hand up. I look like a fucking asshole. I'm wearing a wine shirt. He was smiling too. So he smiled. Yeah, he smiled. You're fine. Well, that makes me feel a little better. It's just when the coolest man does a thing and you're like, I feel like I think I think I have to do this too. I can't be my own person. I just got the picture. I just got the text. Oh shit. This is breaking news. This is live in the middle of a podcast. Oh.
01:33:07
Speaker
Really self-conscious about my smile, too. Oh, I look stupid. No, but you look great. Oh, this is. You know what? How did it come out? I think he makes me more handsome. Does he? Let me see this. I'll be the judge of this. Yeah, he does.
01:33:27
Speaker
I think I have like a weak claw. No, no, no. It could be the shirt. The shirt really enhances your look in that picture, too. Yeah. That's a good shirt. You know what? They use a good camera. This Hawaiian shirt's popping. It might have been like the aroma of his cologne just made us all look good. You can't see that I'm wearing shorts. No documentation. Oh. Damn.
01:33:50
Speaker
You know what? Changed my mind. Uh, I need- I need Okada as a wingman. Are you kicking me off the podcast? No, no, not for podcasting, like just to walk around in public.
01:34:00
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I feel like we're gonna get in so many nightclubs. You should take a moment to appreciate that at all in, Okada probably got the biggest pop for an entrance. And within 24 hours, less than 24 hours later, you were looking handsome right next to that guy. Oh man. We met the longest reigning IWGP heavyweight champion. I'm uncomfortable with how many times I've been complimenting your appearance in the last couple of minutes.
01:34:21
Speaker
Don't, don't feel uncomfortable about that. You did have a doppelganger at the show last night. I don't want to talk about him. If we talk about him, he wins. That was Alex's friend. Who? Garrett's doppelganger. I don't know his name. Never mind. We're going to cut this out. Either way, I mean, if you have any final thoughts, I, this was easily one of the best wrestle weekends of my life. Not the best, you know, you can't say for certain.
01:34:50
Speaker
I think for me it's the best weekend, the wrestling weekend. It is for me too. Yeah. All in was, I think there was just so much stress through Starcast for
Event Reflections and Wrestling Significance
01:35:01
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me. Oh, we had work. There was, yeah, it was like, like WrestleMania weekend. I'm just getting to watch so much wrestling and this was one show, but it didn't, we didn't get everything all muddied up with other wrestling. We had just had one gigantic show and then interacting with every wrestler known to man throughout the entire weekend. Yeah.
01:35:20
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It was it was just like we went to summer camp with Ron Simmons. My final thoughts are like there were elements to the show that I think were unexpected. Sometimes the reaction from the crowd, sometimes, you know, I guess not many of the results for the matches were surprising. Most of that was fine. But
01:35:45
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I think we got what we wanted out of this weekend from start to finish. Even including Starcast. I think we knew what we were getting into for the most part and I think it was cool getting to meet a bunch of different people and I think that All In lived up to the hype.
01:36:00
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And we're gonna be talking about this show for a long time. And even details like the next line when you finish talking about how great All In was is gonna be, oh by the way that merch line, fucking insane. That's a record setting merch line too. Yeah, I'd say my one final thought is if this weekend if the WWE and the NDs were playing chess, the NDs with All In said check.
01:36:29
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Nobody said checkmate yet. But yeah, they said check it. Absolutely. Right. Yeah. Like, you know, there were certain moments throughout this where it's shots fired. This was there is a hole in the side of your fucking show. That was a cable. Yeah, it went through. There's water coming in now and you got to figure out how to fix that leak. Garrett, I don't have a voice anymore. You should probably plug all of our shit again.
01:36:56
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01:37:04
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01:37:18
Speaker
You can find me on Twitter at a queen of the ring Instagram underscore queen of the ring and on YouTube just typing queen of the ring wrestling You could find it all there and I've vlogged most of our weekend. So if you guys want to see our reactions to Pretty much everything of the weekend. Yeah guys. This was a fun weekend Well done everyone Hit our goddamn music