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Goodbye For Now | Bye Round Strategy | AFL Fantasy Q&A | #PODPOD
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And just like that, the bye rounds are upon us! Coaches are about to enter 4 rounds of best 18, with all players set to have a bye at some point in the next 4 weeks. Historically, this is where the good coaches can surge up the rankings as they trade their way towards a completed team! As coaches scramble to fix red dots, upgrade their failing mid-pricers and trade into underpriced premiums, this round of trading will prove to be one of the most important this year! Never fear, the PODPOD lads have you covered!
On this monster episode, Holmesy, Harmey and Lewy review their rounds, discuss bye round strategy, talk about a number of relevant players and answer a stack of listener questions. In one of their best chats yet, this episode is not one to be missed. Stay tuned towards the end as the lads make a heartfelt announcement about the future of the PODPOD. This one was for you listeners, enjoy!!!
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Transcript
Holmesy's Return & Team Progress
00:00:19
Speaker
G'day and welcome to the Pod Pod. It's Holmesy here talking all things AFL fantasy classic for you on this Wednesday night, 29th of May. Back from a little bit of a hiatus last week after the lads got on the Twitter spaces, but we're here talking to you on the eve of this first buy-around. Pretty important round and we've assembled the crew, so we've got two-time top 10 finisher, John Harmie with us. Harmie, mate, good to have you and
00:00:46
Speaker
How's it going? How's your team going? Host homes are going pretty, pretty well. My team, look, I went up in the rankings this week, 500 spots from 17 and a half thousand to 17,000. So I'm in the right direction. There we go. What does, what does Warnie say? He's just eating the elephant one bite at a time,
Impact of Jai Clark's Suspension
00:01:06
Speaker
mate. Just getting ahead, coming into the bias, making it your own. What'd you say? You're scrambling to get 18 this week. I'm, I've copped.
00:01:14
Speaker
Everyone cops bullets, so I'm not going to say I'm the only coach that it's happening for. But look, we'll talk to a few traded in Joe Richards for his 94. I thought I was pretty bloody good. And he goes out. I traded the week before, you know, I'm just going to I'm on a roll, mate. McCurcher traded him out and then he had his foot issue. Sweet disaster. Tom Green for his seven. But anyway,
00:01:43
Speaker
Look, touch his life. I'll be okay.
Lewy's Sick Return & Fantasy Team Struggles
00:01:46
Speaker
Yeah, and I'll tell you what, Hami, that Jai Clark bullet this week, absolutely brutal, mate. Just as he got a 65, we thought maybe we could get a score from him this week against Richmond in a soft matchup.
00:01:59
Speaker
goes and hits Locky Whitfield and gets suspended. So that's fantastic. But also with us tonight, we have the stalwart of the Pod Pod. He's been here since the very beginning. Lew. Lewy, mate. How are you? Good to see you. Yeah, good. Thanks, mate. Apologies to the listeners. I'm a little bit sick tonight. So if I sound a bit crabby, that's the reason. But no, it's good to be here recording with you boys tonight, talking a little bit of AFL fantasy. I'm keen to get into the thick of it as we launch into the buy rounds.
00:02:28
Speaker
Yeah, good to have you here, mate. And let's get these formalities out of the way because let's be honest, our teams are not traveling well, but we're here. Let's get it out of the way. So, Hami, why don't you start us off? Where are you ranked at the moment and how'd your week go? Yeah, I haven't looked at your scores too much, fellas, but I scored a 2-1-4-4. Got a few points taken off of me post close for
00:02:54
Speaker
spots, minus three. So that brought me in a few spots, but the damage was done about three weeks ago for me. So yeah, I'm on the climb back up the ranks now, 17, 0, 5, 2.
00:03:08
Speaker
I'll tell you what, weren't the fantasy Twitter warriors out in force on that Friday night with the slowed down vision of the Bont free kick and highlighting that it was Bont not McCray and getting those overturned. It's very rare that we get those overturned post the scores actually locked out and whatnot. But yeah, Bont
00:03:29
Speaker
negative three and McRae plus three. God knows that was needed for McRae, but Lew, how did you go?
Strategic Trading & Ranking Goals
00:03:37
Speaker
It's funny when you see those clips floating around on Twitter, but I scored the 2047, which means I've slid well behind Mr. John Harvey here. I'm in at a rank of 20,000.
00:03:51
Speaker
So I've well and truly taken the throne from Dulce this season. I think this might be my worst rank in 12, 13, maybe 14 years, certainly since AFL fantasy actually transferred over from Dream Team. So hoping to improve from here. I'm still relatively confident that I can chase down
00:04:14
Speaker
the harm dog here. I think I've got him in my sights. I love hearing that he may be struggling in this first round of the buys. This is where I can tap into my inner state-o perhaps and really make my jump to that 10K club and then I'll be up and about. I'll be real giddy about that I'm sure.
00:04:35
Speaker
But it is what it is that that's fine. That's that's fantasy. What about you homsy? You are the form player of the podcast mate I'm keen to hear how your week went and where you're ranking
00:04:48
Speaker
Yeah, look, to be honest, I've missed this beef between you two. It was the highlight of the podcast last year. So good to have it back. Look, inform coach of the podcast doesn't say much from where I'm ranked at the moment, but I had a 21-51
00:05:05
Speaker
which has me at a rank of 3967. So not horrendous, horrendous from where I was to start the year. I was just outside the top 100 and it's all been downhill since. Some of it a bit unlucky and some of it just some very bad trading on my behalf. But
00:05:22
Speaker
just just is what it is and hopefully I can turn it around a little bit in the bias with some maybe some aggressive trading and and hope that some other coaches haven't planned the biases as much but yeah just is what it is but you know who knows maybe I can push up towards the the top 1000 by the end of the year if I can have all things go my way harmi
00:05:40
Speaker
Oh, look, I was just going to say, Lou, you mentioned your rank, but I thought we may just throw in a Dossie watch. Our former friend. Oh, no, don't do this. I've still got it. But eighteen, seven, four, eight years. So he's, tell you what, neck and neck with you, Louis.
00:06:00
Speaker
I should, um, I should log into my dormant supercoach team, which I haven't actually touched since the opening round and see if I can snag back a supercoach rank. I dare say I might have him there, but yeah, that's good motivation. It's, it's certainly, uh, gonna light a fire on my bum. Yeah.
Tom Green's Underperformance
00:06:20
Speaker
Good on you, Dossie.
00:06:21
Speaker
A season best for you, mate, this year. I know you'll be listening. Boys, it's not Dossie anymore. Come on, give him his real name. It's Phantom Junior now. Phantom Junior. Yeah. As he goes by. But Hami, sticking to Dossie, we'll start negative. What was your Dossie pick for the week?
00:06:42
Speaker
Well, the before mentioned Jai Clark, 61 points, which once again didn't count for me, but the week that I do need him to come good and put in a score for me in the first buy round, he suspended. So thanks Jai Clark, negative three for you, my friend.
00:07:04
Speaker
Yeah, I'm not sure you can say that though, homie. I'm pretty sure Scott came out in his pressure and said that they're not going to challenge the suspension because he was actually going to get managed this week anyway. So I'm not sure he would have, not sure he would have suited up. Yeah. Anyway, what's your Dossie pick for the week? Uh, my Dossie pick, it's got to be the Jackson McRae 58. That's been, uh,
00:07:25
Speaker
Pretty abysmal since I brought him in. What did he score? 120, about a month and a half ago, two months ago, and thought, look, you know, not going to expect 120s every week, but if we can squeeze a 90 out of a forward, we'll be laughing. It should be close enough to top six, but since then, he's been an absolute pus, unfortunately. Let's take a look at his stats here. Four o'clock at that. Where's his last three? Last three, 73.
00:07:53
Speaker
Last 5.75. I'd be better off playing an Ollie Dempsey type. Just too keen to upgrade in that forward line and I'm sure we'll talk about it a little bit later on in this podcast. The forward line is just fraught with danger. It doesn't matter if you think you can squeeze 5, 10, 15, 20 points out of someone with what we're dealing with here. We're just dealing with issues every single week there.
00:08:20
Speaker
Yeah, you might think that you're getting clever and smart trading into a form player of the comp in the forward line, but it can turn around and bite you in the bum. So, yeah, Jack McRae 58 and I'm sure many coaches will be mimicking that as well. Oh, you've just called him Jack. I like how you called him Jackson because let's be honest, he doesn't deserve his nickname of Jack at the moment. Jackson, that's horrendous. You derailed my season last year and
00:08:48
Speaker
You will and truly derailed it again this year. So yeah, agree. Agree with you there, Luke. My dossy pick for the week. And this is probably a little bit, uh, a little bit unwarranted, a little bit unfair, but I'm actually going to give it to Tom Green. So two weeks ago, I probably shouldn't have gone there. He had a high break even, relatively tough matchup, but I thought I'll, I'll try and get ahead of the comp as, you know, Lemon and these good coaches do. You get ahead of them one week early and then you're away and everyone else was trying to get on them.
00:09:17
Speaker
I had the eye on this Geelong matchup and 91, just not good enough when we've seen Warpool go 150 on him. We saw the Port Adelaide boys, all three of them go 115 plus, 91. Yeah, he was tagged a bit by Blitz Arvs, but you got to get more than that on Geelong. So Tom Green, 91, not ideal and he's dropped a lot more cash and everyone's going to look to target him off his buy, I would have thought,
00:09:44
Speaker
Yeah. Has this bloke been the biggest disappointment? I mean, he got injured, understandably, but has he been the biggest disappointment since his early round buy? He came out of the blocks like a house on fire and everybody sort of went, oh, here we go. Didn't start him due to that buy and he's gone. 1.16, 1.45, 1.20, first three weeks. And since then he's
00:10:08
Speaker
You know, he's put up OK numbers, not enough to really burn you, per se, besides for that injury affected game, which happens. But 95, seasonal average, last three, he's gone at 90, last 582. That's got the injury affected game. But did anybody predict this from Tom Green? Do we have any theories as to why?
00:10:30
Speaker
he has been underperforming like this, or is it just a bit of too many mouths to feed? Maybe there's a bit too much speed on the GWS game style, which was a concern of mine last season, and they seem to have taken that next step again this season. Is that
Buy Round Trading Strategies
00:10:47
Speaker
a simple way of looking at it, or have you guys got any other theories?
00:10:51
Speaker
I don't think we can sort of rule out what the effect that ankle had on him for the last couple of games. He didn't miss, but he clearly hasn't been himself. He had low time on ground in that first game back. There was a tag game on the weekend, so maybe he just needed a bit of a rest. But yeah, it does seem at the moment he's not getting that outside ball that he did last year.
00:11:13
Speaker
Maybe that is a little bit game style, GWS. Maybe that is a bit of a sign that the AFL games speeding up a bit. Maybe they don't want him getting as much of that sort of outside ball now that, you know, Whitfield and those other players are up and about and running. But with his price and potential to be top eight after what he did last year, Hamid, do you still think Tom Green's a good target for coaches coming off there by?
00:11:37
Speaker
Yeah, I do think he's a good target. So, well, yeah, Lou, I brought him in that week. He hit the seven. That's when they got beat by Sydney. But they have actually been travelling quite poorly to GWS here. I guess you'd say a bit of a slump. So, let's think about that. So, did the ankle, but didn't do the ankle.
00:11:57
Speaker
Then they came out got beat by the best team in the comp by 20 points the week after that, isn't it? Then they got beaten by 30 points by the Bulldogs and then they came up against Geelong and yep, gave him a lot of attention now with no Kelly and no Cogs. He's probably just copping a bit of pressure. But look, I still think he's a bloody good price now for those that are going to be bringing him in, coming off his buy.
00:12:23
Speaker
I wouldn't really have much hesitation in targeting him as a trading option.
00:12:32
Speaker
Yeah, beautiful. Hami, let's stay with you. Why don't you give us your stato start of the week? Okay, stato start of the week. There's a few options there. I think what I'm going to do is give it to Jordan Dawson, been one of the few good trading options that I have done this year. And first quarter, 60 odd points. I thought, you beauty, I'm on track for a 240 as my captain.
00:12:59
Speaker
But yeah, he really got a bit of attention after that and slowed up. But still, he's come through with 123 as my captain. So I'm pretty happy with what he did on the weekend. Give it to him. Yeah, he's just a fantastic player. And I keep thinking these scores are going to stop. You know, 40% CBAs, he's not the main guy in there.
00:13:24
Speaker
anymore. But, you know, whenever they need him to go back behind the ball for for a bit of cheap footy, he's there. You know, he's dangerous when he goes forward to get on the end of some goals. He's just a he's just a really good player. But, Hami, is he a target now knowing that he's nine hundred and seventy K or do we need to look elsewhere? He's pretty expensive. Yeah, I'd be looking elsewhere at nine hundred and ninety two thousand. I think you probably
00:13:48
Speaker
looking at a bit better value that's it for those that are in the top 100 and might be flush with cash he might be a good trading option for them because as you say he's got a great score build and this is why I was still fairly confident in looking at him after he hit that 60 and that's why his price was lower for a little bit
00:14:08
Speaker
He just gets it done at every level he's played in. The VFL used to dominate, then they started playing him in the seniors at Sydney and coming off the back flank, wing, middle, it doesn't matter. He'll get the marks, you know, tackles, kicks, likes to kick over a handball. He's just a great fantasy option. Yeah, very good by Yuhami.
00:14:33
Speaker
I guess I can't get in because we're nowhere near the top 100 and we have no cash. What is your start of the week? I'm going to give it to Jeremy Sharp. So scored the 105 on the weekend.
00:14:47
Speaker
probably been the best rookie pick that we've had this season. Look, it's hard not to give it to him when you consider that. He's actually, of course, his last three games outscoring Oliver, Sorong, Ponton Pelly. So he's putting up good numbers for a bloke. We started at about 250K. So yeah, tip of the cap to him. Originally, I was going to trade him at the round 13 buy. Now I'm not so sure. We've got a couple of little holes to plug as many coaches do. I'm sure there's a couple of hangers on that we're trying to get rid of.
00:15:17
Speaker
And certainly in my case, like a Gallagher, a Howes, they're still hanging around. A Garcia's kicking up a stink there. Joe Richards, who knows if he's going to come back once the Collingwood troops return. So Harley Reid's one we need to upgrade. So there's a bit of work to do here. And I think Jeremy Sharp may be low down that list in terms of priorities. So he might be one to get me through the buys and keep on going. Hopefully this form continues.
00:15:43
Speaker
He's got a nice fixture to come. He's got Melbourne Dog's son, so hopefully those next three, he can do me good. And then, yeah, he'll probably go on to become the Traders Rookie of the Year, I imagine. He's been in some great form. Hami, you've been enjoying what Jeremy Sharps has been doing for us this year? Well, I haven't given him my Stado's start of the week all season, quite clearly, because I haven't had him in my season, because I opted for Charlie Lazaro. He was a much better option.
00:16:15
Speaker
Oh, boy. Yeah, look, I was I was the same as you. I was actually looking to trade him a lot earlier on. I thought he'd kind of maxed out in price. He'd had that one spike score. But outside of that, he was a 60 or 70 type player. But watching him live at the moment, he he's just that he's the only winger that Freo have. And he spends 90 to 95 percent of the grant the game out on that wing as that outlet kick. He runs so hard.
00:16:41
Speaker
Look, some some smart coach is going to get off him at the right time when he has a bit of a floor score. But, you know, for someone like us in our situation at the moment, he's one of the last rookies that I think we need to sort of upgrade with with him and Wilson putting up numbers that are that are fine compared to some of our other players, I would have thought. Yeah, you spot on.
Garcia's Absence Mystery
00:17:01
Speaker
And as we know, the legs are going to get a little bit heavier for all players in the comp as we move towards finals. And it's always a little bit harder to
00:17:09
Speaker
to keep that consistency in the legs, I guess. So Jeremy Sharp in the preseason was going toe to toe with Peter Beaul, of course, an Olympian we will likely see a little bit later this year. So he's got that fitness base and running up and down that wing that time on ground, being a first year player for Fremantle as well. I think he's got a bit to prove. And I think that consistency can stay there for a little while yet.
00:17:33
Speaker
Hey, just one other Lou that you mentioned before was Garcia. Anybody know what happened with him on the weekend? Because he dropped two weeks ago, played VFL, scored 140. But on the weekend, he didn't play VFL and they played in Melbourne. So it just doesn't look like he played.
Pod Challenge Rankings & Buy Round Strategies
00:17:52
Speaker
Yeah, it's an interesting one because it happened to Shonemaker the week before as well. It sounded like there was talk of a debut, but then he didn't play at any level and then it came out the next week that he actually had a concussion at training.
00:18:08
Speaker
You know, they're kind of keeping that on the on the down low at St Kilda. So maybe they managed him. Maybe there's something else going on there. I'm not too sure. But I think we're going to have to wait for selection tomorrow to see if he's in the frame. He really should be with the way Saints are traveling at the moment and coming over to play the Eagles. But yeah, I don't have anything to add there, Hami.
00:18:27
Speaker
my stato stud of the week and not my top player and someone that's been a very frustrating own for most of this year, but I just want to give LDU a bit of love, 114. I think that's three tons in a row now, so starting to hit a bit of form. Potentially someone that you might look to jump on off his bias, cheat for what we know he can do in the back half, but he's been a bit of a frustrating own so far this year and
00:18:51
Speaker
You know, you've got Shesil and Fisher at the moment who are clearly the number one and two fantasy scorers in that side for Norse. I'm not sure you want to go anywhere near LDU at the moment, but just wanted to give him a bit of love after his last three weeks.
00:19:06
Speaker
All right, boys, let's move on. So quick update of the Pod Pod Challenge. So 11 coaches in the top 100 at the moment, which is still a very good number of coaches. We've got the number two coach, Baden's Bandits of Barbados, who has spent a bit of time at number one as well. So hopefully he can push back up into number one spot. And George's team Hinton's Harriers in sitting in number six as well. So some very good coaches there.
00:19:34
Speaker
Fingers crossed they can get themselves up to the pointy end and really push after the buyers. It would be really good to see someone in the Pod Pod Challenge take out the comp this year. All right, let's get stuck into our hot topic. So, buy rounds. We're here. We've been talking about it for a while. First of the buy rounds, always a little bit of an awkward one, knowing that you're trading into a player who is potentially, well, will have a buy at some point over the next four weeks.
00:20:01
Speaker
Hami, why don't you just talk us through a little bit of what you're thinking about this week in terms of strategy. I know you're saying you're scrambling to get to 18 players, but maybe think about some other coaches that are not necessarily in your position. What do you think they should be doing with their trades this week so that they can set themselves up to really attack throughout the buys?
00:20:21
Speaker
Well, this week I will be trying to bank some level of cash and I'm not saying that you need five hundred thousand going into next round, but I think you need sort of a hundred plus potentially and you should be able to achieve that really looking at the teams that are on the buy this week. And then it would be a matter of identifying who you want to trade out.
00:20:47
Speaker
as well as who you want to trade in. So picking your targets, who you are sort of eyeing off, you think are good trading options and good picks. But yeah, I'd also be focusing on who you're going to be trading at. Look, to be honest, I think that this year's buy period is going to be a bit easier than some others. And I say that because of the three trades. But just with that round 13 buy with Freo and Port Adelaide are playing.
00:21:17
Speaker
I just think you got an extra, you know, trade there for free and you got more time to correct you around 14 and 15 if you're overbalanced. So this week may be the hard one for people. But yeah, look, when I sort of look at my team,
00:21:36
Speaker
I'd be keen to move on a Tom Powell type and try and get them up. That's what I have been looking at. Trying to get him up to say, you know, a Will Day or Jack Crisp or someone around that price point and still carry over money into next week to try and move on the rookies and yeah, get some upgrades. Lou, where are you sort of looking at with your buy around strategy? Do you echo a lot of what Hami's saying or are you looking at it a little bit different?
00:22:15
Speaker
Sorry, Jentz just had it muted as I was sniffing and coughing, but I echo all of those thoughts that Army just mentioned there. Throughout the buy period, basically what I try to do, I don't try to over complicate things. I look at the four rounds in total. I have a look at how many numbers I have each week. I sort of circle the players that potentially might be on the way out across those weeks and where I can
00:22:43
Speaker
sort of be a benefactor of having 19, 20, 21 players throughout those weeks and trading accordingly. So it's just about planning. What was it? The old saying, piss poor preparation ends up in piss poor performance or something like that. And that's what the buy rounds are really about is just putting yourself in the best situation to be able to field
00:23:06
Speaker
many players as what you can through any given buy around and it's not going to come out all cherry ripe every single week sometimes you might field 18 and hopefully in a week like that you you're limiting your rookies but as long as you can get as many players on the ground throughout each and every week then that's the way you got to play it you're gonna get lucky sometimes you're gonna have rookies that come into your best 18 you're gonna get unlucky you're gonna have some premiums that potentially fall out of that but
00:23:34
Speaker
Really, the be-all and end-all is about having as many players possible playing as you can throughout those buy weeks. So as long as you can plan that throughout a four-week period, a month, you'll put yourself in the best situation to come out of the buys looking a little bit nicer. And as you get to the back end of those buys as well, starting to plan a little bit of, okay, how do I exit these buys in the best state possible to keep attacking? Because as we come out of that round 15 buy round, we've still got
00:24:04
Speaker
got eight, nine rounds of football to go. So we're essentially only just over that halfway mark. So it's really, yeah, it's, it's probably a slight oversimplification. I think if Stater were here, he'd bang on for the next 15 minutes about how he would sort of run things. But for me, I think, yeah, just making sure that you put in that work to put yourself in the best situation to come out the other end looking okay.
00:24:31
Speaker
Yeah, I really like that, Lew, and that's where I was going to sort of direct my sort of part in this. So I, knowing full well that we're going to get bullets and it's not going to go as smoothly as we hope and
00:24:43
Speaker
going to have to sort of pivot sideways. But what I sort of look at, so we've got four weeks of buyers and then we've got the two trades after the buyers as well leading into round 16. I have a look at all of the players that I wouldn't ideally want on field coming out of the buyers and I make a plan of how I'm going to, you know, sort of rank the players that I need to get off in order and start just chipping away at it over the buyer. So my team, for example, I've got
00:25:09
Speaker
Tom Powell, Jack McRae, Riley Bonner as sort of three mid prices that I am confident that I don't want on field at the end. And then I've still got the four rookies as well in Closie, Reid, Sharp and Wilson. So thinking about the sort of rookies that we were speaking about before at the moment, I'm relatively happy to keep rolling Darcy Wilson considering the lack of forward options that we have. And
00:25:32
Speaker
and Jeremy Sharps, not exactly someone I'm looking to get off just yet either. So it's really about those other five players and making a plan of how I can get rid of them. So this week, I'm looking to go a two down, one up to try and just refresh some of those dead rookies on the bench to get a little bit more cash. And then going up to someone that's not fully priced. So someone in the Jack Crisp, Will Day mode, as Harmony mentioned, and carrying enough cash over next week so that hopefully
00:26:02
Speaker
I can go one down and then potentially do a double upgrade. That means, you know, trying to get a Zach Fisher, Dane Zorko two for one. Yes, I'm not going to be able to do that from, say, reading closely. But if I can get, you know, say go out on McRae this week and then get one of Closie and then Tom Powell up next week, then
00:26:19
Speaker
just getting players that I'm going to be happy rolling with throughout the rest of the year, ideally, as premiums and not having to play around too much. I think that's the sort of strategy that I'm going with. I'm not sure I'm going to be able to get 2021 playing each week. But I think something that does get missed as well is, yes, it's good to have 2021, 22 playing. But if you're just getting rid of all of your red dot rookies to bring other rookies onto the ground that aren't going to make your best 18,
00:26:46
Speaker
Anyway, maybe you're better off just really shoring up your 18-19 players so that, yeah, you might get one dud rookie score, but if you've got a solid 18-19 other players, I think you're going to be in a good spot. Would you agree there, Hami? Yeah, sorry, mate. I tuned out there. I was having a look at the teams and seeing Jordan Sweet named his emergency. Sorry. I was a bit distracted. Louis, thanks for that, Hami. Appreciate you, mate. What are you thinking there?
00:27:16
Speaker
No, I echo all those thoughts, mate. Certainly, yeah, there's nothing wrong with having 19 on field. If you're shoring up, you're sort of best 18 there, and there's nothing wrong with trading in somebody on the buy either. Try not to do it with premiums, personally. I have seen it done before, and it works to okay effect.
00:27:37
Speaker
I think there's nothing wrong with jumping on some of these more value guys as well, knowing that potentially they come back in and they're playing for the buy arounds through 13, 15. So yeah, I don't mind that at all.
00:27:50
Speaker
Yeah, look, I also, Holmes, I did like how you said the two down, one up. I should have said that earlier. You should still be trying to get upgrades where you can. I wouldn't really love the idea of doing
Rule Changes & Mid-Season Draft Impact
00:28:02
Speaker
a triple downgrade this week if that's what you felt you needed to do. You should really be trying to improve your team each week and I think that you should be able to. I reckon I could do it, Hami. I reckon I could bring in the best players this week and it would end up in a triple downgrade the way I'm trading at the moment.
00:28:20
Speaker
Yeah, well, let's just quickly go over that, Hami, because there are some other, you know, podcasts that have mentioned the triple downgrade, you know, the week this week to get rid of those red dots, thinking Nick Caulfield, Garcia, if he doesn't come back, Zach Reed. But what's the dangers there, Hami? You're getting on these rookies and it looks like McAuliffe's a good option. It looks like Fraser's a good option. It looks like a Harvey Harrison's a good option with all of the injuries that
00:28:47
Speaker
Colling would have, but with them being round 15 buyers, what's the guarantee that they're even there for us in 13, 14 when we really need them? So is that really what you're thinking with the danger there? That's definitely one of the dangers. I mean, if you're trading those cheap guys in, you want to make sure that they're going to be there for all your buy periods, really, because you're going to be relying on them as a green dot. So yeah, that's definitely a risk. But I mean,
00:29:15
Speaker
It's potentially if you're going to do that and bank all the cash means you may be giving up some points on field this week as well But you also may not be taking the opportunity to trade somebody out who's on there buying round 12 that you should and I guess we mentioned Tom power, but there's probably others as well that are on the by this week that you could look to move on and
00:29:38
Speaker
Yeah, but it depends who you're going from and who you're going to. So if you're going, say, Harvey Thomas and Cadman and such, I don't know who else is on the pod.
00:29:50
Speaker
got Revel, some of those other ones maybe, but probably going a bit early on him, yeah. Yeah, I think Revel's still fine for a few weeks. Just on Tom Power then, Hami, just on Tom Power, are you only considering trading Tom Power this week if you have a link in your midfield that allows you to swing someone into the forward line to upgrade in the midfield? Do you think it's a little bit sideways to be going a Tom Power up to a forward, considering outside of the Flanders, Heaney, Zorko,
00:30:21
Speaker
are both on their buy and those are the guys of Fisher as well. Those are the ones you'd really want to be going up to. Do you think it's too sideways to go power just to another forward where you're just sort of shifting the headache to next week?
00:30:34
Speaker
Just give me one second. Yeah, so power moved into the midfield last week. So it would be a midfielder that I'm bringing in. I think that's a good way to go. But just on power, the other one that you didn't say there was Sexton. So you probably make $40,000 trading power down to Sexton and get equally as good a scoring output. I would expect probably more so.
00:31:02
Speaker
Yeah, that's somebody else you could look at. But yeah, there isn't too many magnificent options in the forward line is there. But there's quite a lot of DPPs around as well. So I sort of was looking at power going out and then bringing in Salem as a defender at one point this week.
00:31:23
Speaker
Luke, can I just quickly get your opinion on Travis Boak as a forward? What do you think his role is going forward? Is it just a spike in scores because Rosie is dealing with all his issues? Uh, look, probably, uh, a little bit of that. I wouldn't be going there personally. Travis Boak's 35, 36 years old. Yeah. Yeah. Fair point. But, um, the club's been on record in saying that they will manage Travis Boak this year throughout the year.
00:31:52
Speaker
You can see he has struggled through some games. He's in a rich vein of form at the moment, which is great to see, but I think you're just adding danger to your side throughout a buy period where you may be relying on having as many bodies as you can on your field. I've got no doubt that he will be arrested at least once in the next 10 weeks, certainly as Port potentially head towards the final series too.
00:32:18
Speaker
Uh, yeah, tip of the cap, uh, well done to him, but, uh, I think Travis spoke would be one that I would avoid. Uh, and also just on the triple downgrade, I didn't realize that was, um, that was a thing.
00:32:32
Speaker
I feel like that's just painting yourself into a corner. You've had all these weeks to prepare for these buyers, fair enough if you maybe caught a little bit hamstrung, but you've got around 13 where you should be pretty okay there as well. If you were going to do it, would you probably look at it next week? Personally, I'd probably just split it two and two this week and next week and then try and
00:32:57
Speaker
attack 14-15 out of the buyers and potentially post 15 with those two trades there because you're also able to have that extra look at a rookie that may pop from that round 12 and then cover you for the rest of the buyers rather than taking punts on players like what was it a Harvey Harrison look good player looked great on the weekend kick three goals to get their nine tackles that's not sustainable in my opinion
00:33:25
Speaker
Look, McAuliffe, yeah, great, great tie. I guess I'll just rattle off the rookies on this tangent here. Minus five breaking, but I think he's the guy to jump on. If you're looking to downgrade, they've got so many injuries at the Tigers. He's going to get all the opportunity, basically. I think he's probably numero uno. Joel Freeger would probably be slightly behind him just because of his price, 315K, so you're paying what extra?
00:33:52
Speaker
20k or so minus three break even that's nice and then look maybe a Harrison I'd probably prefer an Alir um leak Alir 16 break even had a next week good game on the weekend and uh yes does have the buy this week but I think you should have some nice job security over the next three weeks
00:34:11
Speaker
You've missed the most important one, Lou, and I knew there was a reason. I was just getting to him. I knew there was a reason that Hami came into the podcast with a big smile on his face.
Connor Rosie's Challenges & Future Potential
00:34:23
Speaker
It couldn't be from how his team's going. Hami.
00:34:26
Speaker
Rumors swirling around. Nathan Kruger got the applause at training today. Could he be coming in this week with all of Collingwood's injuries? And would you go there? Trade him in. 256K around that mark. I'm not 100% sure, but very cheap. He's been your boy since day one.
00:34:46
Speaker
Yeah, without looking at him straight in, this could be the turning point of my season. This is what I'll be waiting for. So, Crooks, he could be my R2. R2, yeah. Sweet out, Crooks. Sweet down to Crooks.
00:35:03
Speaker
Mate, all I'm imagining is Nathan Kruger sneaking into my dreams and just absolutely murdering my fantasy team. I'm doing as his namesake. I don't mind it. I'm not sure I'd be doing it at R2 just because that blokes every single chance to pop a shoulder in the first 10 minutes of the first quarter, as has been tradition pretty much since he was picked up on an AFL list. But at an R3, look, I don't mind it. He's probably one of the better
00:35:34
Speaker
options to look at, I say, through gridded teeth just because there is opportunity there at the pies. Yeah, we are laughing a bit, but he's going to have to be looked at with all of Collingwood's injuries if he does play well. But yeah, let's just wait to see if he's actually named.
00:35:51
Speaker
Yeah, Lee, I'm going to stick with you as someone that loves his footy and is a keen eye for the game. So it's come out during the week that the AFL have, they're now going to direct the umpires to basically change the way that they are officiating the holding the ball rule. They're going to give players less time to get rid of it. It's been pretty well known that the holding the ball rule this year has been in absolute shambles and they're not paying any holding the balls really.
00:36:19
Speaker
Do you think this is going to change too much from a fantasy perspective? I'm not sure it will, but do you think some of these big body midfielders are going to have to change the way they play, considering, you know, let's just use a patch of Crips, for example, he's just getting the ball and he can do whatever he wants, knowing that players can't bring him to ground and he's got an eternity to get rid of it. Do you think we're going to see too much or do you think it's just there'll be a bit of a change and they'll sort of adjust and then it would just be business as usual?
00:36:44
Speaker
We won't see a single change, mate. The only thing we might see a few dumb footballers that don't pick up on it for a week or two, but that'll be played in the rooms for every single player to see. These are the new rule interpretations, don't get caught out. It'd be silly for any of the coaches at the AFL teams not to be highlighting this change. So yeah, there will maybe be a couple of players that
00:37:11
Speaker
start disposing of it a bit earlier than what they normally would, but in terms of a fantasy impact, I just don't see anything occurring here. I think players will adapt quite quickly as we've seen with numerous rule changes over the last couple of years, so that'll just continue to be the case.
Post-Buy Trade-In Options
00:37:27
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah, no, couldn't agree more, except now Jack Steele is going to have an extra 30 points each week for holding the ball free. So I can't wait to to VC that this week. But yeah, I think business as usual. Hand me the other sort of hot topic that we've had. Oh, he's got his hand up. He wants to say something. Yeah. Yeah. Look, I just took a second there. Holmes Eater.
00:37:49
Speaker
Have a quick look at Nathan Kruger's form in the BFL. It looks like his last game was the 11th of May. So a few weeks ago now, he had 11 disposals. He had seven hit outs, five tackles, and a fantasy score of 78. So I'll probably bank on at least that. Once you've made the deal, mate, stop selling. We are in. We are on board. That's more than Jackson McRae.
00:38:19
Speaker
Yeah, might have to downgrade McCray. Lads, we had the mid-season draft tonight. We're not going to rattle off every player because there was a lot of players that were taken from the coach league or from the Colts.
00:38:34
Speaker
Generally, they're more development players that are going to be given a bit of time. But every now and again, we get the John Newcombs, the John Nobles, the Will Snellings that are hard body footballers, mature age, that potentially picked up to come in and play a role straight away.
00:38:51
Speaker
You're just going to have to put some of these names in your watch list just in case they get picked up, but a few here that have caught my eye. So with pick number two, Richmond took Jacob Blight, played seven waffle games for Peel Thunder, average of 78. So can score a little bit there and that might translate into some not so bad fantasy scoring, especially playing for Richmond. They're pretty depleted there.
00:39:14
Speaker
keep an eye on him. St Kilda have picked up Max Hall, seven games for Box Hill with an average of 99.6. So another midfielder to add. And we do know that St Kilda have a bit of a lack of midfield depth at the moment. So definitely one to keep an eye on there.
00:39:31
Speaker
We have from Essendon. So Essendon have picked up Saad El Hawali. Don't quote me on that. Eight VFL games for the northern bull ants with 100 average and Hami hates his bombers and they are a bit depleted in the midfield as well with his lord and savior Darcy Parrish seemingly always missing with a calf. So maybe one to watch there. Yep. So we won the draft again. Another Dodoro victory.
00:40:01
Speaker
Very good. Uh, Brisbane picked up Luke Beacon. Is that your boy? There, Lou. Seven sample games for Woodfield West Torrens. 88 average. That's my boy. Yeah, your boy. Jump on Loki Bacon. He's got the chops.
00:40:16
Speaker
Yeah, a few others there. Bryn Teekle has been on a list before, hasn't really made it as an AFL-Rockman yet, but has played seven waffle games for 105 average at East Freo. So one to maybe keep an eye on, but probably not classic relevant as he won't be basement. And Ned Long played for Hawthorne last year before being delisted, has been picked up from Collingwood. So has a pretty good VFL average, but I think we worked him out to be priced at 40. So probably not an option for us.
00:40:42
Speaker
He's had a good season, neither long. He's made that rep team and he's having a solid VFL season. He'd probably be pretty good. Big, big body, like there's a chance he gets a run, I reckon.
00:40:54
Speaker
If you get to run this week, it's almost curtains though, isn't it? If he comes in 340K and looks the goods go 60, 70, 80 or what have you, then all of a sudden he's up to 370 and you're paying that sort of awkward range for a rookie that may or may not be there for the next coming weeks. So it's going to be unfortunate pricing then.
00:41:16
Speaker
Yeah, definitely these players, though, keep an eye on them because we have seen them come in and play a role and score pretty well. We always hope for them each year. Nukem was the big one a few years ago, came in and just got off to an absolute flyer. So keep an eye there.
00:41:32
Speaker
Last hot topic and I'm going to give this one to you, Hami. I think you're an owner. I'm not 100% sure. Connor Rosie, probably one of the more unlucky things that could have happened to a fancy coach. I'm not sure whether you traded him or not, Hami, but
00:41:48
Speaker
Think of these coaches that, you know, they had a top eight mid for the first six weeks of the year. They then cop the hamstring injury when he's on, you know, 80 just after halftime against Essendon and flying. They then cop the 50 when they play in the next week when they shouldn't. They hold him for the two weeks and then he comes back, rolls an ankle and puts up another 40.
00:42:10
Speaker
What are you doing with Conor Rosie, knowing that, you know, a lot of us are potentially going to look to target him off his buy once his price drops, knowing that we can potentially get a top eight mid at a serious discount. But what are these coaches doing that have held him this whole time? Do they have to hold, hold fat or can they jump off?
00:42:28
Speaker
Yeah, so I held him for the first week, which was, again, probably an error, but that's hindsight. Then I traded him out. If I was an owner, I'd be trading, I reckon.
00:42:41
Speaker
and it's a shame because he's dropped so much cash now he's priced at $771,000 but the issue is he's already been named as an out for this week he doesn't play next week then he'll he's potentially plays round 14 but he's going to drop cash he's got he is the player with the highest break even in the game so he's going to drop cash again guaranteed
00:43:04
Speaker
So you probably you know and maybe they ease him back into after having such a poor run for the last month so I think there's probably more things telling me to trade if I were an owner rather than hold. I mean he's gonna play forward when he returns right there's no issues with ports midfield jhf butters wines drew.
00:43:27
Speaker
off the top of my head made pops in there too. There's a couple of others that have little cameo appearances. The idea was that he was going to play predominantly forward against North Melbourne, in which he did. I think we're looking at perhaps a couple of groomed scores as he comes back in.
00:43:50
Speaker
uh port said at the beginning of the year that they're going to or one of their learnings from last season was that they need to get their players cherry right for the final series and and not cook them beforehand so i can see a little bit of uh a little bit of hurt before you before you get a bit of gain there so i'd be jumping off personally
00:44:08
Speaker
Yeah, and that's what I actually wanted to mention with you, Lu. So I can't remember the exact quote off my head, but one of the radio stations was interviewing Josh Carr, I think it was last week, and he's come out and said that moving forward, they don't want a midfield of just Rosie, Butters and JHF anymore. They're never going to play those three specifically at the center bounce. They want to balance the midfield with either an Ollie Wines or a Will and Drew.
00:44:34
Speaker
So potentially we might not even have him as a top eight mid when he returns because of a changing role. He's not going to have the
00:44:41
Speaker
big midfield role that we've seen of last year, which, which really made him relevant from a fantasy point of view. And you're dead right. The learnings from last year, they want to, they want to push in finals. They don't necessarily care as much in the home and away. And, and that screams to rotating their midfield around and, and that just doesn't scream fantasy scores. So yeah, unfortunately I agree with you guys there. I'd be, I'd be trading off him as well as, as unlucky as it has been.
00:45:07
Speaker
All right, let's get stuck in now to some players that we can potentially look to trade in
Evaluating Top Fantasy Picks
00:45:13
Speaker
this week. So we're going to quickly rattle off these, do a little bit of like or dislike for old times sake, Hami. So, will day.
00:45:21
Speaker
102 last two, priced at 86, hasn't really missed a beat since he's come back. His time on ground was managed early, but he's starting to really work into the season now. 730-ish K, is Will Day someone that coaches should look to target this week in the buys as a bit of a stopgap as someone that could potentially push 95-100?
00:45:43
Speaker
Yes, he's a good trading option. I don't think he's a stopgap because he could be in your team for quite a while I reckon He's scored 100 last couple of weeks. He had 60 at halftime on the weekend And yeah, he's someone that I'm interested in 120,000 down on his starting price. There's probably some good upside there and Yeah, Newcom isn't really getting it done. So I think that they'll invest time with him in a midfield. I think it'd be good
00:46:11
Speaker
Yep, like it. Hami, Lou, can I interest you in a Jordan Ridley? Don't have the price off the top of my head, but a 132 in his first game back on the weekend. Yes, in a soft matchup against the Tigers. I suppose the only thing I can really sort of pinpoint as to why Ridley might be a top six defender now when he hasn't been in the past is the addition of Mackay. So maybe that means Ridley doesn't have to play as locked down as he has in the past with their defensive stocks.
00:46:40
Speaker
Is he an option for us or do you think that there's a little bit of too much ball to go around back there between McGraw, Martin, Redmond, you know, you throw in all these players, Hepple, what do you think with Ridley?
00:46:54
Speaker
Yeah I think you nailed it there mate. There's a fair bit of the bowl to share there I think on any given week and that's what we've seen this season as well is that one of those Essendon defenders do pop. We've seen it from Ridley before. We'll go 132 one week and then the next week we're looking at a 60 sort of 70 score.
00:47:13
Speaker
Yes, he might not lock down as much, but I'd be giving this a couple of more. We're not exactly scratching for options in the defensive area anyway, including in that price range. If he can keep this up for a couple of weeks, I think he's one that maybe we jump on post buy as potentially a way to trade a premium out and bring in another premium, find some cash on top of his head there, get a little bit creative.
00:47:41
Speaker
look he played Richmond who are probably one of the worst teams in the comp at the moment and that's basically due to playing a team of 18 year olds so yeah I'd put that as an anomaly and we'll see how he goes next week against the Suns
00:47:55
Speaker
Yeah, that's what I was going to say, Lou, I don't know if it's so much everybody looking at what Ridley has done. It's more defenders against Richmond, maybe a good stream. So those with Tom Stewart, maybe you hold on another weekend, hope that he gets a good score this weekend against them.
00:48:16
Speaker
Hami, sticking with you, Jack Crisp. Uh, it's a lot more expensive now than he was when he started going on his run, but in his last three, he's gone 105, 118, 130 off the back of a huge CBA jump with the Collingwood midfield being depleted. Is it too late for a Jack Crisp or is he a top six defender in this role with Degoi and Tom Mitchell and these players out for a, you know, a pretty medium term amount? What do you think with Jack Crisp?
00:48:47
Speaker
Well, I think that Mitchell is probably closer to getting back on field than to go at the moment. He seems like he's battling a number of things. Yeah, look, he had to sort of get it done in the second half to get his score there. I don't know. I just don't love the idea of that Pies midfield pumping out big scores week in, week out. And they are going to have Daikos as their number one midfielder that they want the ball in their hands off.
00:49:15
Speaker
I'm not sure whether Crisp is amazing value now priced at $787. So he started to get up there a bit. I'd be more inclined to take a real day than a Jack Crisp probably, but I can see why people would target him and he's probably got a good role in that midfield while there's a few people out for the next three or four weeks.
00:49:42
Speaker
Luke, do you actually think that Tom Mitchell would come in and take this role off Jack Crisp with how well he's playing? No, I don't think so. To be honest, I think I could even see them putting Tom Mitchell on ice for a little bit longer if need be. They know that he's a capable midfielder when he needs to play a role in there. I was probably wrong about Jack Crisp last week. I was a little bit cagey.
00:50:06
Speaker
He had the same role. He continues to put the scores up. There's no way that you can put an end date on when this finishes. With the dogs in north and the next three, he's Melbourne in between there. I don't mind this as a jump on option. Not sure the tackles are sustainable. They've been up there. Not sure what that looks like.
00:50:28
Speaker
uh in a previous sort of season where he has played this midfield role but generally we've always said that Jack Chris best role is across half back
00:50:37
Speaker
I wouldn't talk anybody out of it. I think it's quite an astute play and happy to put my hand up off last week saying I'm not sure this can continue. Who knows? It could be for the rest of the season as Collingwood sort of looked to try new things because we do know that they've got an aging midfield there. And while Jack Crisp isn't a spring chicken, he's not exactly knocking on death's door either. Just noting, so the last four games
00:51:05
Speaker
It's been a pretty solid midfield group at Collingwood-Dakos, Pendlebury,
00:51:14
Speaker
and Crisp with a bit of a sprinkling of Lucky Sullivan and Beau McCreary and Finn McCray. So yeah, maybe it's there to stay for the time being, Luke. We should mention too, Penderbury's out. Yeah, I was just about to say, Penderbury's out this week too. So who knows how long he's out for? Just sort of solidifies that role for him this week. So yeah, I like the Jack Crisp trade in. We've seen him go 100 in the past in this role.
00:51:43
Speaker
And what I really like about him too, he doesn't just rely on possessions to get his score. He tackles hard. He gets on the outside for Marks as well and even sneaks forward for a goal here and there. So I like the Jack Crisp pick. I'm not sure whether to pay an extra 50K for him over wheel day. I think the defensive status is quite valuable as well. But yeah, I think Jack Crisp is a solid trading option this week.
00:52:07
Speaker
Louis, Alex Sexton, do you think it's too late? 98 last three, but that's off the back of that big 126. Can we still go there knowing that you're only going to get another sort of two weeks until his bye and then you've got power returning at some stage too? Should coaches still consider him or do you think we've gone past it?
00:52:27
Speaker
Oh, he's getting up there in price now, isn't he? It's 622K. Look, he does have the Saints in the next two games, which is a nice little matchup. But I think we've missed this one, and his scoring outside of that big one, the 126 has been 88-81. I'd probably peg him at about that 85 range. So if that's enough for you, and admittedly his value in a forward line,
00:52:54
Speaker
With the options we've got, it may well be, but for me, I'd rather just look elsewhere. I think there's better points of difference out there that we can look for.
00:53:04
Speaker
The last sort of under-priced player I want to throw you away before we sort of rank the trade-ins for next week off their buy. Christian Salem has burnt coaches already this year, but has come back. Two good scores, including a monster on the weekend against St Kilda off the back of, I think it was 14 marks. They're a little bit depleted as well, not playing the best football. They are chipping around a little bit in the back line. Is Christian Salem an option or do you think we've missed the big one and he has potential to burn coaches?
00:53:33
Speaker
No, I'd say he's definitely an option as well. His price is suppressed because he got that injured five still in his average. So I think that his price will continue to increase. And I think he's got potential to put up some good scores. So somebody that I'm looking at, because his price is $639,000. That's really cheap, isn't it?
00:53:56
Speaker
Yeah, far out, didn't think it was that cheap. Priced at a 75 average, yeah, as someone that's done 90s in the past. It's essentially what he was priced at from a scoring perspective to start the year and got off to a bit of a flyer. So, not one for the faint hearted, but, Hami? Yeah, he's actually $60,000 cheaper than the starting price when people thought he was value then.
00:54:19
Speaker
Yeah, I just meant from an average point of view, he was priced at 75 to start the year, but from a dollar's point of view, he's cheaper. What's his role, though? At the start of the season, he was looking at being a CBA mid previous seasons when he was averaging 90. He was pretty much one of the main distributors in defense. He's not taking any kick ins. He's not really attending any center bounces. He just he's caught in between for me. He might be a bit of value at that price, but
00:54:47
Speaker
That's just not what I want to touch during the buy period. Yeah, fair enough. Louie, I'm going to stick with you. So I think the consensus from all of us here is going to be that the number one trading option off their buy next week is going to be Zach Fisher, considering he's got the sort of the lion's share on those kick ins at North. She's just now moved to the midfield and all that balls going through him in the back line. Maybe it changes next week if we find out that McCurch is coming back ahead of schedule. So we'll just
00:55:16
Speaker
We'll park Fisher for the moment because he's he's a definite trading option. But what I want you to do is I want you to rank these five players in terms of urgency to get in off their buy. So we've got Dan Zorko, Isaac Heaney, Errol Goulden, Josh Dunkley and Harry Shiesel for anyone that either didn't start him or potentially traded him out like I did. Sick. Out of those five players, how are you ranking them in terms of options to bring in next week?
00:55:45
Speaker
I'm probably, look, I'm going to do this pretty much in opposite of ownership. Zorko is still relatively unique. He's putting up 113 average. Has a frightening ceiling. He's just getting it done in a line where we don't have many other options. So for that reason, I'm going to go Zorko.
00:56:05
Speaker
There's still a lot of good coaches without him. Golden is probably another one as well. He's one that many coaches have avoided just due to that round 12 buy. I was certainly one of them. He hasn't been in poor form whatsoever, 105 average score. We know what he's capable of. He can push north of 110 quite easily and got no doubt that that'll probably look like that in the back end of this season as they approach finals.
00:56:34
Speaker
Josh Dunkley's probably the next one as well, which I imagine this is in ownership order anyway, just because he's got that ceiling. He's relatively consistent, plays for a team that really need to start getting some wins on the board. And he's a leadership player within that team. So I expect him to be well and truly part of that. Now, Sheezel and Heaney is interesting. On form, you're going Heaney every day of the week for me, I think.
00:57:03
Speaker
If you've not had him yet, you've done well to stem that bleeding for as long as you have, but he's going to be a top six forward. He's going to be a top two forward most likely, and there's no other way to look at it. She's all, he's up in the air, right? Started the season like a house on fire, but unfortunately there's been a couple of roll changes there which have resulted in
00:57:24
Speaker
uh some still good scoring but a little bit of volatility there he wasn't that walk up 120 every single week and uh as i said in defense we've we've got a plethora of options that can go 110 any given week so he would probably be the one uh at the bottom of that list for me and uh yeah i reckon i'd put it in that order there mate
00:57:46
Speaker
Yeah, look, Jamie, real quick, what can you add to that? I was just going to say, look, those players from next week, if you're looking at premium options at a good price, I like Gordon out of all of those. I probably think that he would be my number one choice probably. And then Tom Green, because he's going to be so cheap that he'd probably be the next one I'd be looking at over the top of those other guys that were listed.
00:58:15
Speaker
Yep, fair. I didn't even have Tom Green in that list, but yeah, not a bad shout, Hami.
Listener Questions & Trading Advice
00:58:21
Speaker
All right, let's get into some questions to finish off the podcast. Hami, I'm going to stick with you here because this one's from Matt. He asks, how do you turn around fantasy bad luck? He sacrificed a goat to the fantasy gods last week and now he's copying meek and sweet bullets. So what are you doing to turn around your fantasy bad luck, Hami? What are you considering?
00:58:42
Speaker
Well, he's off to a good start. I sacrificed two goats and a pig, so well ahead of him. That's why Kruger's been named, I think. That's just how it goes some years, hey? There's a lot of luck in it for those that are going to have a successful year, so all the best to them. I hope it works out for them, but you just hate the injuries too.
00:59:08
Speaker
swings and roundabouts in fantasy. Lou, this one's from Olivia. Hi, the Pod Pod crew. Do you recommend going top of the line with Dawson or do you still think it's value with someone like a Will Day? Cheers. Yeah, so this is where we circle back to what I said earlier on in the podcast about planning your buys. To make that decision, I'd be looking at what your plans are next week and potentially the week after and what you can do with that carried over cash, I think.
00:59:38
Speaker
Someone like a Dawson's probably going to go 110 as we've seen this season. Someone like a Will Day, if he can continue this form, is going to go north of 100 and potentially 105 plus. So there's not much of a difference there. It's purely about the cash. So if we're talking cash, there's 250K between it. If that's the difference between getting up next week,
01:00:01
Speaker
on a better player that can put more points on the board across the seasonal aspect, then that's the way I'd be going. I think I'd be going the cheaper guy and just giving myself that leg room, that length of rope to be able to pull on if I need it next week when potentially someone like a meek or a sweet that you don't plan on not being there that following week does get injured. You can actually do something. You can put something on his head. We've got quite a few cheap guys, which we've mentioned throughout this podcast.
01:00:29
Speaker
Uh, that we can jump on and maybe squeeze something out of. So, and that's not to mention jumping on a premium next week. It could be a Tom Green, as we said, who's under priced. So, uh, for me, I generally go the cheaper guys throughout the buyers, post buyers. I'm probably looking towards that Uber premium guy that I can rely on as we've only got two trades, but yeah, it's a long winded answer, but I think I'm going real day there. Hami, this one's from Johnny.
01:00:57
Speaker
is trading McCray to Kennedy two sideways. Says it helps his buy structure and he's sick of watching McCray as we all are. Using his other two trades, he's going to downgrade so he's got a lot of cash next week. But do you think McCray to Kennedy is two sideways?
01:01:13
Speaker
Oh, look, I just hope for his sake that he can get to somebody better than Kennedy because I feel in two weeks time and Tara comes back, his role gets thrown around again. And yeah, he's not that solid pick for a couple of months that he would really want out of him. So I'd be trying to find somebody other than Kennedy personally, but it's probably an upgrade at the moment, looking at how McRae's just dodging around that forward pocket.
01:01:40
Speaker
What about this other options? How about this one? What do you think about this trading option? Caleb Daniel priced at $500.
01:01:52
Speaker
Yeah, I got him off the waivers in draft two minutes before the game when I realized he wasn't subbed, but no, you couldn't do it in classic knowing what Bevo does. But far out, he's getting cheap, isn't he? And if he changes clubs next year or he can win his spot back, he's going to be someone that everyone starts next year. So keep that one in the back pocket.
01:02:14
Speaker
Lou Lockie wants to talk about Tom Stewart. So has he bottomed out priced at 75? He had a tough matchup against Port where it was tagged. And then that Gold Coast game, he was also tagged in the bad weather. He still got that injury affected scoring his existing price. Do you think he's potentially 10, 15 points under priced or with the emergence of Max Holmes? Sorry, with the emergence of Max Holmes, do you think he's not really one we want in our fantasy teams anymore?
01:02:43
Speaker
No, I think he's absolutely under priced. Where that sort of lays, I'm not sure. Certainly 10 points. I think he's probably a 90 averaging player. Max Holmes definitely has chipped into that a little bit, but career history suggests that he's
01:02:57
Speaker
Generally around that 100 mark, he's bottomed out. So he might be a play in a couple of weeks time that we have a look at if we're looking for a cheap play. He's relatively reliable. I don't mind it. I don't mind looking at that as an option.
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01:03:14
Speaker
I think he's a good option. Like really, he's a guy that last two or three years has been mid 90s and a top six defender.
01:03:23
Speaker
and he's currently priced at $664,000. So he's pretty cheap. He's just got 89 on the weekend. He comes up against Richmond. So yeah, I think he's probably not a bad option. You'd have to think the chip chip sort of comes into that Geelong game style late too. They've got 22 35 year olds out there. They're not going to be running gun every single, every single week. I think there's going to be a little bit of
01:03:51
Speaker
share it around and preserve the body potentially that works the other way where there's a couple of subs or even a rest but yeah I can also see a world where Tom Stewart gets involved in that and can return to that sort of 95 average which would be on the heels of that sort of best defenders that we can sort of choose from.
01:04:10
Speaker
Yeah, I just think that the main thing that worries me about a Tom Stewart, and there's a little bit of locky Whitfield about this, where teams have kind of figured out that if you let Tom Stewart do what he wants, he's going to cut you up. And they're starting to get into him. They're putting someone on him. That Port Adelaide game was a perfect example. Was it Mead or one of those other small... Mac and cheese.
01:04:34
Speaker
Yeah, Mac and cheese. That's right. You know, really got in his head and and we saw how he played that game. So I think there's going to be those games where teams sort of locked down on him a little bit. And that means he can have some of those floor scores, which has always been the way with with Tom Stewart. But yeah, that would be my only concern. But there's absolutely no doubt he's underpriced for what we've seen him do throughout his career.
01:04:56
Speaker
Hami. This one's from Trisso Affelfant. Cool. He's got 21 on field this week. So do you think it's a play for him to trade closely early this week to help his buy structure moving forward? Yeah, you could do and that'll be fine. If it helps his buy structure, I wouldn't have any real concern with that. What did you say? 21 on field. He's got 21.
01:05:24
Speaker
Yeah. So I'm guessing he's got 21 if he plays closely. So maybe that means he only has 20 on field to get ahead. But I think that would be fine in my opinion, if it's going to help his buy structure later on. Yeah. Yeah. No, that's probably a pretty good option. I think that Closie has done his job for you. He's made pretty well all of the cash that he's going to. So I think he's not a bad trade out option over this buy period.
01:05:52
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Louis, this one's for you from Christian Romeo. Now, this one hurts because he wasn't a bad pick, but you definitely weren't expecting to get this on the weekend. Selego. So is he a trade or is he a hold? You would have hoped that he had a good run up to his buy, would have made his cash, which now that isn't going to happen with that 30 in his score. Do you just have to cop that and play him knowing that you might need his score during best 18 or do you cut your losses knowing that his cash is going to go backwards and trade him out?
01:06:22
Speaker
No, I think you just have to wear that one. I'm not sure if it was reported, but I did see on Nine News that that was a tactical sub well and truly just to manage the body. His form before that was relatively okay. I think there's probably bigger issues to overcome until he's round 15 by, and then he might be a good one to trade out then. But Hawthorne and Richmond in the next two weeks, he should be able to reward you with something pretty decent there.
01:06:51
Speaker
Yeah, for me, I just stick fat, sucks what happened last week, but at least you know it's got nothing to do with injury. It was all about managing his body, which is potentially a good thing, maybe hits the ground running in the next two weeks and puts up something nice for you.
01:07:07
Speaker
Hami, this last one is for you. This one must be a mate of yours, Patti Bessel. Do you know, do you know Patti? Yeah. He's asked, are you still training arms? Because unfortunately, the podcast makes it hard to see if he still has those glorious guns. So are you hitting the gym? Yeah. Yeah, I know he is, the big fella. So yeah, thanks for the shout out, Patti. Good on you. Yes or no. Are you still training arms, Hami, or have you given it away?
01:07:37
Speaker
Not as often as I used to. And Holmes, he's certainly not up to your Ninja Warrior performance, but yeah, I'm still doing it here. Well done, Tommy. All right, lads, that brings to a close a huge pre-buy round episode. Really appreciate you guys jumping on. And it's at this time that we unfortunately have a bit of an announcement to make, so I'm just going to cue up that sad music.
01:08:06
Speaker
Look, it's been pretty tough for us since Dossi left and Stado decided to leave us as well. Unfortunately, there's a lot going on for us at the moment, and it's making it very difficult for us to record each week. So we're going to have to make the announcement that, at least for now, the pod pod's going on a bit of an indefinite hiatus. I'm just going to chuck the music off now. But in all seriousness, we love jumping on each week and recording for the listeners.
01:08:37
Speaker
It's a, it's a really, really good thing that we like to do, but yeah, with everything I've got going on with work and family and, and harm is the same. And Lou, we've, we've had to make the decision that we can't, we can't keep going at the moment. Uh, it's not forever. Hopefully we'll be potentially back next season. Um, who knows, but for now it's a bit indefinite, but Lou, as someone that's been here from the very start with Dossi, uh, you know, how are you feeling about all this?
01:09:01
Speaker
Oh, yeah, certainly, certainly a little bit emotional. It's it's been a long, been a long time. Originally, what started during COVID, I think the pod pod officially and before that we're doing a couple of other little things like lane kicking, but
01:09:20
Speaker
Yeah, I guess it's indefinite. It doesn't mean that it's over. It's just at the moment circumstances make it occur that way. Hopefully we're talking to you in a couple of weeks time, but we'll see how we go.
01:09:38
Speaker
But I just want to say thanks to all the listeners. We wouldn't be recording at all if it weren't for you guys tuning in. So you all mean a lot to us. Thank you very much. And yeah, I don't know what else to say. It's been a big chapter. I don't think it'll be the end of it. But, you know, still just want to thank all the listeners.
01:10:05
Speaker
And thank you boys as well as co-hosts and Dossi and Stato who couldn't join us tonight, unfortunately. But yeah, I don't really know how to spin off of that. So I'll throw to you, Harmony, as one of our beloved co-hosts that joined us officially last year. Anything you would like to say, mate?
01:10:30
Speaker
Oh no, just look, it really has been great guys. It's been really enjoyable, a lot of fun and hopefully people have been listening who would feel the same about it. Hopefully we're back in some capacity at some point in time. Don't know when that's going to be, but
01:10:45
Speaker
Yeah, all the best to those coaches that have been going well this season. And hit up Homsey for some advice. Don't go anywhere near Buzz Dossier's advice. Phantom Junior.
01:11:03
Speaker
So no, go hard through the bi-period and hope they bring it home strong, those that are up there from the Pod Pod Challenge. But no, look, thanks to you guys and Dossi. Yeah, as I said, I've just enjoyed talking fantasy on a weekly basis with you guys. And yeah, hopefully we'll come back and throw a few pods out there in the future.
01:11:27
Speaker
Yeah, like Lou said, it's hopefully not done. Just a bit of a hiatus, but I'm sure we'll still hear Lou on the on the coaches panel every now and again and in harmony on the AFL fantasy fanatics. We know how much they love him over there. Couldn't even get him on the content creators cup last year. But yeah, thanks to all the listeners. We do the reason we do this is for you guys. We don't get anything out of it other than just chatting fantasy amongst ourselves and having you guys listen and bring your questions in. So go well.
01:11:54
Speaker
You know, anyone that's up there towards the top 100 and anyone that's still just playing the game, hopefully you have a nice, strong finish to the year. And who knows, we might see you again someday. But for now, farewell. Bye.