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Archaic Wrestling - Ep 1 - The Oldest Sport
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Our first episode! Evan and Sasha introduce themselves and talk a bit about the oldest forms of evidence known about the great sport of wrestling. We promise we'll get better at this...
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Introduction & Podcast Goals
00:00:00
Speaker
Welcome, listeners. This is Archaic Wrestling. We're a wrestling history podcast where we study and speculate different aspects of wrestling history. And my name is Evan, and I'm joined by Sasha. Hello. You may know me as a small Twitter account. That is, maybe you have agreed with or that has been very annoying to you in the past or that you have never heard of.
00:00:32
Speaker
I'm also a Twitter account of the same ilk, but probably more annoying because I don't talk about wrestling enough and I talk about other things that no one cares about.
00:00:44
Speaker
So we just want to really quickly maybe talk a little bit about some of our plans that we'd like to do with this podcast. We aren't expecting this to be anything big or special, but we just want to do this for fun because we like wrestling. And we want to talk about some stuff that a lot of other wrestling podcasts might not focus on as much. And play our own rules a little bit.
00:01:09
Speaker
So what is this podcast otherwise? You know, we have some thoughts about what we want to do. We would like to be able to go through different stages of wrestling history and talk a little bit about that. And we want to talk about current events. We want to do book and film reviews. We'll talk about the Olympics. We'll talk about wrestling in different cultures. And we'll kind of go from there. We'll see how things go. And we have a little bit of a
00:01:37
Speaker
a random Pac-12 update every once in a while when Evan and I go to Stanford meets every once in a while, you might get one of those. Yeah, exactly. It's going to be whatever we feel like it, but we'll always have some sort of organized segment that we'll we'll enjoy bringing to you before we get into some stuff.
Evan's Personal Experience in Martial Arts
00:02:01
Speaker
What's been on your plate recently? You were just talking a little bit before we started recording that you've been doing some Brazilian jiu-jitsu and you just came back from practice. You sore? You feeling good? Yeah, I feel like if you're a wrestler and you go to BJJ Gym, first thing you're going to notice, Matt's really, really hard.
00:02:23
Speaker
The mats are gonna, you go to what you get to practice, you're a wrestler, mats are gonna be hard as fuck. It's gonna feel like you're hitting stone every time. And I'm still not quite used to it. So there's that. They also, something I've noticed, they do not like it as hot as we do.
00:02:42
Speaker
I have to wear a full sweatsuit maybe the entire time because especially here in Chile, San Francisco, it's a nice cool 45 degrees tonight. So very cold, very stiff. Yeah. And, you know, I stub the shit out of my toe as well. So, yeah, I'm missing. You can say I'm missing wrestling.
00:03:05
Speaker
I can agree with you on the mats for sure. I definitely miss a good resolite most of the time, you know? No one's really dropping money for a resolite at a BJJ gym.
00:03:16
Speaker
But I wish they did.
Origins and Cultural Significance of Wrestling
00:03:18
Speaker
So today we are going to be talking a little bit about the beginnings of wrestling history. And that's going to be really hard to do because the reality is we don't know anything about the beginning of wrestling. We're going to be doing a lot of speculation. I think we know a bit, Evan. I think we know that it is the oldest sport, OK? Well, I think wrestlers know it is the oldest sport for sure.
00:03:46
Speaker
Well, I'm glad you brought that up. We're going to talk about it. But one thing to say, and this will be something to think about any episode that we're doing, but especially this first one. Wrestling is just, it's really murky. Excuse me, not wrestling. Well, wrestling, yes, but history itself is really murky, right? We obviously try to rely on evidence when we're studying history as best we can. It gets tougher and tougher when that evidence becomes a little bit more and more obscure.
00:04:17
Speaker
It's hard to evaluate the evidence that we do have sometimes because it's not always fully contextualized, right? It's been taken out of where it was found and moved across the planet to a museum or it was gathered inappropriately by an archaeologist from the 1800s. And there's a lot of
00:04:37
Speaker
of bullshit mixed in with history. And the history of wrestling is not going to be any different. So I think some of the stuff that we can really say about wrestling in general is it's pretty ubiquitous.
00:04:50
Speaker
across cultures, right? Enough for us to make some pretty decent inferences. Yeah, I think that's one thing we can, and that's probably, you know, where that sort of conventional wisdom comes from. You know, wrestling is like, I mean, wrestling is like music. Wrestling is like, it's like art. It is, I mean, I don't think there's any culture that we found that there is not some sort of, you know, physical sort of grappling, fighting component present.
00:05:20
Speaker
Uh, so many cultures around the world have, you know, more formalized ones. And I think it's something you see all over the place. There are so many folk styles of wrestling in many countries that do freestyle have, you know, a very strong folk style of their own. And we'll go over those. I think probably we'll go over probably a lot of those, uh, as we go through this podcast and, you know, subsequent episodes.
00:05:49
Speaker
Yeah, definitely. And I think a good place to start is I was thinking it'd be a good place to look at primate behavior actually, especially like chimpanzees, or even just other mammals in general.
00:06:05
Speaker
the idea of of play right or social play that especially mammals but especially primates exhibit when you watch you know young chimpanzees play with each other there's a lot of chasing each other there's a lot of wrestling and rolling around with each other and we look at that and if i were to say oh what is that what are those chimpanzees doing right
00:06:29
Speaker
They're wrestling. That's what we would say, right? That's what it looks like. So I think that it's not an unfair assumption for us to think of
00:06:38
Speaker
our own species in that way and that we've probably been doing something that looks like wrestling since forever for the 200,000 years that humans have been around or Homo sapiens have. I'm assuming that the process of wrestling as a social activity has been there the whole time.
00:07:02
Speaker
Now, that doesn't mean that other activities haven't also been there, like throwing a rock or running, things like that, where we can look at those and we can relate those things to sports as well. So in order to say that wrestling is the oldest sport, we need to think about what do we mean by sport? First of all, is it more than just an activity that, you know, some dudes in a cave might do?
00:07:26
Speaker
Or do we want to classify it? I think it makes more sense when we think about wrestling to say, when we start to recognize it, when humans start to recognize wrestling in a meta sense, they're starting to see, oh, this is a way I can take something down. They start incorporating technique, or it becomes competitive. So that's kind of how I am interpreting that. How do you feel about that?
00:07:53
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Yeah, I would imagine, you know, probably also as long as languages existed. You know, I've imagined kids are saying, you know, hey, I'll race you to this thing. I'll run faster than you. Yeah.
00:08:05
Speaker
And in order for us to think, yeah, is it the oldest sport is running the oldest sport or, you know, do people just run around? Do people just grapple? I would say, yeah, there has to be some component of maybe not scoring, but you know, a goal in mind and understanding of that goal. And I think maybe the biggest thing would be for me, I guess would be, you know, either that it's.
00:08:33
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something that is formalized in a sense of people competing, other people watching them compete, you know, or that addition of technique. I mean, you're not going to see, you know, if we find things about technique, I think you're going to know this is something people have thought a lot about. I think we can call that a sport.
00:08:52
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Yeah, I think that'll be a good place to start as we go through this.
Wrestling in Ancient Art and Historical Evidence
00:08:57
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And I'm really excited about some later episodes where I've found some cool stuff that I think will be fun to discuss that's in writing or in mythology.
00:09:08
Speaker
But for this episode, a big focus we're going to have is going to be more on art rather than written language. This is some of the really earliest forms of sort of communication, right? We're going to have petroglyphs, things like that. And from the research that I've done, the oldest depiction of wrestling that we have is actually in a cave in France. This is the Lascaux cave, and I hope I'm
00:09:38
Speaker
I am pronouncing that correctly, but the Lascaux Cave in France and these cave paintings in this cave were discovered by like an 18 year old kid and his dog named Robot. It's kind of a fun story if you want to look up. If you want to look this up, this discovery and there's like a rediscovery that goes on with it. But there was a series of caves and with tons of petroglyphs in there dated anywhere between 15 to 20,000 years ago.
00:10:06
Speaker
17,000 years ago, if you wanna average it out a little bit, but a long time ago. Long before we see evidence of other sorts of organized sports, right? But we do see things like depictions of hunting in these caves and these petroglyphs there. We see depictions of family life. We see depictions of animals, domestication even.
00:10:34
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And on there, we also see pictures of what appears to be people grappling and wrestling with each other in some positions that we might recognize.
00:10:48
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photos of a lot of this stuff within the Lascaux cave is a little tricky. So I had trouble finding really clear images of some of the wrestling depictions in the petroglyphs. So that's a little tricky. Yeah, I'm seeing mostly, when I'm going through it, I'm seeing a lot of hunting. Do you have... Yeah.
00:11:11
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a link to, yeah, one of these wrestling depictions. Nah, I couldn't find anything that was clearly wrestling. And, you know, big part of that is that's not what people are kind of looking for when they're in there. They're kind of taking it all in as like, oh, people people check out the cave paintings. I don't think is there is there a depiction here of the least popular sport? Yeah, they're not coming in going like, oh, like, oh, here's the wrestling. Let's make sure we share this with all the wrestlers. Right.
00:11:39
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This is just what's been reported, what's been written. There's a lot of pictures in there that are just not displayed online. A lot of people think you can find everything online now, and that's not true. So this is the earliest we could find. So listeners, if you're not familiar with this, look it up. Take a look at some of this stuff. It's pretty interesting as best you can. But this is possibly the earliest depictions of wrestling that we have.
00:12:09
Speaker
And that's kind of amazing. I think it does a lot to show that there is something innate about this type of behavior with humans. But as history goes on, we have some other depictions of wrestling and art.
00:12:31
Speaker
about 3,000 BC. You have a Sumerian stone slab that depicts some wrestling. I can't remember if I was able to share that one with you if I did. I did. Okay, good. Yeah, Sumerian stone slabs. Yeah. So you got some wrestling being depicted on these. So yeah, 3,000 BCE, 5,000 years ago or so.
00:12:54
Speaker
And I think these are interesting, but what's really interesting to me when it comes to this sort of evidence is definitely the Beni Hassan walls. And what are those? So this is a tomb. Beni Hassan was an Egyptian noble, and within his tomb, they had hundreds of drawings
00:13:19
Speaker
depicting different wrestler wrestling holds and techniques. So these are in the Sumeria. Oh, yes. Stone slabs, but in. Oh, no, no, this one, this is a different one. This was about a thousand years later.
00:13:34
Speaker
And so they have all these techniques on, all these techniques portrayed in there. And it's a lighter skin person, a darker skin person. They believe that it's depicting an Egyptian wrestler and a Nubian wrestler together. But they counted. Okay, yeah, so this is 2000 BC.
00:13:52
Speaker
2000 B.C. Yeah. And so this was really, you know, are these the first formalized wrestling techniques that we've the furthest back that we can notice? As far as I can tell, yes, this this some paintings suggest a substantial development of the sport by that time. There were 406 wrestling pairs depicted in each of these pairs, you know, these two competitors against each other.
00:14:20
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a different technique is being depicted in each of them. So it appears to be a demonstration of technique on the wall, like a sort of showcase. And a lot of the techniques on the wall are things that we would recognize today. We see basic tie-ups, we see single legs, we see trips and sweeps. And it's really cool to see this stuff because I think a lot of the time we don't always appreciate that
00:14:50
Speaker
people in the very far past were not very different from us. We get to stand on the shoulders of giants. We have a lot of information that's been stacked up for us before we're ever born, and we get to start really far ahead in terms of knowledge and understanding.
00:15:06
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Thinking of people way far before us as idiots or just thinking of them in this idea that they're uneducated or that they didn't have very interesting inner lives.
00:15:23
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you know, is really incorrect and sort of a kind of, you know, a modern perception of the inner lives of, you know, ancient people. One thing that I think has been really interesting, one text I read on this called The Dawn of Everything by David Graeber.
00:15:39
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this you know, not about wrestling but just about a lot about the inner lives of and this sort of the political lives of You know societies all through history all from the start from prehistory even things that we only have archaeological evidence for when it presents a lot of evidence that You know from the very first humans that we were creating, you know political ideologies and
00:16:09
Speaker
forming around them and talking politics now all that is to say Clearly if they could do that they could formalize a wrestling system Yeah, yeah, I think I think we are naive quite often when we look back in time to just kind of make that make a lot as you said a lot of these assumptions about people that we want to view as primitive just because they were you know, they're they were around long before we were but the reality is is
00:16:37
Speaker
They've had shit figured out for a long, long time. There's ways in which humanity has grown, but as long as they could step in and have a regular conversation, speak the same language, we can have the same conversations with them. It would be hard to talk down to an adult from 5,000 years ago, I would say. You might know something that they don't, but you're not smarter than them. You're just more informed.
00:17:07
Speaker
And stuff like this is a good example of like, they had this stuff figured out. They were doing the same stuff. Some guy wanted some wrestling stuff on the wall of his tomb so that he could look at it while he was dead. Because no one else was looking at it once it was buried. But yeah, this dude was a fan of wrestling, obviously. And I just think that's really cool to be able to see these depictions of our sport in such a very recognizable way.
00:17:37
Speaker
I think if you look up Benny Hassan, B-E-N-I-H-A-S-S-A-N in wrestling, you'll be able to see this cave painting for yourself. But just for example, some of the things we got here, it's hard to tell. I think, Evan, that it looks like some of these are depicted in motion, like a series of the hold being applied from the start and then a takedown at the end.
00:18:06
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Yeah, it could be a little bit hard to tell. Yeah, I mean, they're they're old and faded. But yeah, it definitely could be like we're seeing. I'm seeing for, you know, for example, the collar ties are depicted in here.
00:18:20
Speaker
I see someone with a collar tie reaching for a knee pick is one. Certainly a lot of throws. There are a lot of pictures in here, you know, where someone is, you know, one guy, one of the guys here has, you know, their feet in the air and the other one is clearly throwing them. Yeah. There's that. There's depictions of like one of these is a depiction of almost looks like like a grounded pound. I think I see that. Like I also see
00:18:50
Speaker
almost like a referee's position in some of this. Like I think- Yes, a lot of these. Yeah. It all looks very familiar. Even if you look at this fresco essentially, and it's faded and it's cracked and it's pitted and it's hard to see all of it, if you step back and just look at it, what I'm looking at, I'm going, this is very obviously wrestling is what I'm seeing here. It's so clear and it's fascinating. And I wish I could see this in person.
00:19:20
Speaker
Yeah, this is clearly I think we can say with certainty that wrestling was a sport at least, you know, in 2000 B.C.. Yeah, I think that's I think it's pretty clear when you start depicting things.
00:19:34
Speaker
Then it's like, yeah, this seems to be something organized, something that they are competitive. If you're going to put it down for someone to see and learn from, you're trying to show them something, right? You're trying to show them how or show them what it looks like because you know what it's supposed to. So yeah, I think this is really cool. And there's other stuff in here.
00:19:56
Speaker
There's tablets that were found in Nubia that's really interesting that was about 1400 BC. In fact, there's a professor at a school back East. I can't remember which one, but he wrote a whole paper on the
00:20:18
Speaker
on the on a lot of the history of nubian wrestling uh back in the day and i would love to get a hold of him one time to pick his brain about some of this stuff because i think that it would be nice to get a hold of experts who could just point us in the right direction even if they don't know what else to say
00:20:35
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Sometimes you don't know what you're looking for and they can help tell you oh search for this dig site You might find interesting stuff online about that and we wouldn't know that so I think we can connect with some people like this We might be able to get a little bit more exposure to a lot of this really ancient stuff Yeah, I'm seeing in the you know in this link of Newbie and rock reliefs
00:20:59
Speaker
One move I'm seeing here is a sort of, uh, I think this move is actually, you know, I think I might've hit this one today near in the sort of, uh, Matt return position, right. Where you're 90 degrees, you're, uh, perpendicular to your opponent. Right. And you reach one arm around the claw ride and you reach one arm under.
00:21:25
Speaker
to the crotch and you lift and you hit that return where, you know, you flip them around, you flip them onto their, uh, you know, pin or in BJJ, you consider it side control. Uh, I think one of these, yeah, one of these Egyptian depictions is, is definitely that. I don't know if you can see it here. Check out the, uh, first image. If you go up in the newbie and rocker leaves, but yeah, someone's hitting that Matt return.
00:21:53
Speaker
Yeah, no, no, no, no doubt. So, yeah, I think these are really cool. It's something that's worth checking out.
Debate: Is Wrestling the Oldest Sport?
00:22:03
Speaker
But unfortunately, at this point in in history, it is pretty sparse. As we get closer and closer to more recent times, we do find more and more evidence of wrestling. A lot of stuff in the Middle East, you find a lot of stuff in Iraq, for sure.
00:22:22
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in that whole area as you might expect. It was kind of the birthplace of a lot of civilization. And yeah, there's just a lot of really cool stuff. But yeah, this is all really interesting.
00:22:37
Speaker
But obviously, none of this really conclusively shows that wrestling is the oldest sport, right? It shows that wrestling is as old as any sport can be, probably. There's no real answer to what the oldest sport is. And it depends on what you mean by sport, right? I think it's good that we maybe operate under the ideal that sport refers to athletic activity that's not like training for survival and has to be competitive.
00:23:05
Speaker
Yeah, I would imagine, you know, I think, you know, hunting fairly formalized set of techniques could certainly be done in a competition. Yeah. Make an argument. But, you know, anything that is that is done for. Yeah. How long have we been doing? How long have we been doing the javelin? Right. Just throwing a spear. I'm sure that's been around forever. Right. But ultimately, I think we can say that wrestling is at least one of the oldest sports, but it's not really
00:23:33
Speaker
I don't know, maybe you feel differently, but I don't think it's necessarily a very meaningful question. I don't even know if it's very meaningful for us to be like, wrestling is the oldest sport, you know? Just because it's just so, it's so ethereal in terms of what this all is. When you compare it to say, you know,
00:23:55
Speaker
Certainly football, not the oldest sport. I think we can share with, you know, probably a hundred percent certainty. Basketball, not the oldest. So when you look in terms of, you know, popularity or, you know, see the propaganda that we as wrestlers, you know, maybe need to put out into this world that is probably, you know, where this term or this idea of wrestling being the oldest sport originated.
00:24:21
Speaker
You know is that we need PR that's just that's a fact we need PR if there's something that we can say that maybe you know. Opens up the imagination for someone cuz really i think i'm looking at this when i think the only other option here.
00:24:37
Speaker
for what else could be the oldest sport, things that are equally similar and innate to humans, like running, certainly. I don't think we can make any delineation between, is running an older sport than wrestling? Is wrestling an older sport than some sort of organized running? It's impossible to know. But look, they don't need it.
00:25:03
Speaker
They don't need it. They don't need to claim that they're the oldest sport to be popular. They already, they have it. You know, they're not, they're not going to get put out of the Olympics. So, you know, in my mind, if you want to go around repeating it to, you know, when you're inviting people over or something, you're, you're watching, you're watching NCAA's or a dual meet maybe. And you know, some, some of your other friends are there or family, you know, and they're like, what the hell are you doing? Just, I think it's fine. Go ahead. Tell them it's the oldest sport. It doesn't matter. They don't know. Yeah. Yeah.
00:25:31
Speaker
It is unfortunate that it is so obviously such an old sport and yet comparing our statistic keeping to, you know, something like baseball or basketball or football. It's woefully inadequate.
Exploration of Wrestling Styles in Future Episodes
00:25:47
Speaker
And that's going to be a big challenge for us is we will not be able to just go back in time and check a lot of results and statistics and video and know what was going on with law stuff. A lot of it is just going to be a name in a book somewhere and a list of names in a book somewhere, right? And I'm excited to get into some of that stuff, especially when it comes to like early modern Olympics. We'll get to kind of look at some weird stuff, I think. We'll see some weird results in that.
00:26:15
Speaker
And ancient Olympic stuff is going to be really interesting. Next episode, I want to focus a little bit on some more recent antiquities. So we'll get into the Greeks and the Romans. And there's a really cool piece of archaeology that I'm excited to share. Disclaimer we should probably make is we're both American.
00:26:35
Speaker
This is where we grew up. A lot of our perception is going to be, you know, American-centric. And a lot of the stuff that we're going to focus on will be as well, just in terms of our perceptions and stuff. But we do want to open it up.
00:26:48
Speaker
And we mentioned earlier, we want to explore different cultures and their styles of wrestling. Initially, we'll probably talk a little bit more about the stuff that evolves into our Olympic styles and talk about that. But there's a really long history with, like, Sumo. It goes back so far. And it really stands on its own and deserves its own episode. And there's going to be a lot of folk styles just like that. So we'll have our main timeline of wrestling that kind of takes us through the popular styles.
00:27:18
Speaker
that the whole world competes against each other with. But there's definitely going to be room for some other really cool stuff. I'm excited for that as well. Do you have any closing thoughts on our very quick and brief, since there's almost no information on it? But what we did talk about and what we do know about the little we can from this time.
00:27:43
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, something I was interested in sort of trying to find out in this episode was, you know, what is the oldest recorded wrestling technique? I mean, I'm not sure if we can answer that question. But we do have some of, you know, maybe techniques. We have some of the oldest recorded techniques. I seem to be seem to be a lot of throws. I have an opinion. It's probably just a body lock.
00:28:11
Speaker
Because I don't know, you coach little kids in wrestling, and if you just put them on a mat and say go, first thing they do is hug each other and try to pull each other on the ground. And it's like, that's just a body lock. I'm thinking that's probably the first wrestling move.
00:28:27
Speaker
They like try to grab each other's head and body. Something I wonder that, you know, I don't think we can ever answer this question, but you know what had to have happened sometime in, you know, some of these, you know, thousands of years, someone had to have hit some sort of funky leg pass and then never have remembered it ever again.
00:28:50
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, I I just wonder if that ever happened. If someone ever got into a position hit like, you know, if one of these Sumerians ever something came over them, they just hit a straight abyss leg pass came up. And afterwards was like, I don't know what that was. I don't know what happened. It never happened again. Never got recorded. I mean, if if we if we can go back in time and we knew exactly where to look, I bet we would find someone that's done at least anything once. Right.
00:29:20
Speaker
There's probably not a whole lot new under the sun. There's just, you know, new. We have cyclical strategies, right? We kind of go in and out of phases of wrestling now. But the main technique is pretty solidified in terms of what is useful, what works, what makes sense to teach to everybody. And we just accept that there will be exceptions. Yeah.
00:29:43
Speaker
That's about it. So that'll conclude this segment, our history segment.
Sasha's Wrestling Event Experience
00:29:50
Speaker
But Sasha, I want to give you an opportunity. Is there anything you want to talk about on Sasha's soapbox today? Last weekend I did go to Iowa to visit a friend in law school and we went to Iowa-Michigan duel. So that was that was a great time. There we go. Yeah, tell us more about it. How are the seats?
00:30:10
Speaker
They were the farthest, you know, I was really surprised. So ever since I was in high school, it was, this, it was always like, there's another sort of, uh, just like sort of facts, just sort of a known thing that's just like Carver best place to wrestle, best place to see wrestling, best place to wrestle. So ever since I was in high school, when I started wrestling, I thought I need to go there someday, see what it's all about. So I did. And I gotta say it was pretty sick. I think, I think they might be right. I think that might be the correct take.
00:30:40
Speaker
I haven't gone. I would also like to go eventually. Pretty good energy, though, it sounds like. I mean, it always looks like it is. Yeah, for you know, for an 18000 person stadium, you know, we were in maybe five, five rows from the last ones. You know, you could still see things pretty well. It was not bad. And yeah, you know, Michigan said a lot of people, a beside was out. So
00:31:04
Speaker
Yeah, there's maybe two, two really good matches. Kobe Seabricks and Will Luan. And of course, Mason Parris, Cassiope. But I can tell you, every, every point, every point in Iowa and scored in each of those matches just had a standing ovation. I got to say, they know what they're doing there. They're doing, they're doing good stuff there.
00:31:24
Speaker
Yeah, it's it's usually it always appears to be a really knowledgeable crowd to like they know when to cheer like even if there's not a point being scored they understand when a when a advantageous position has been gained. Yeah, they only only messed up one time.
00:31:38
Speaker
They had one, they had one big mess up that was, you know, that was not, it was, uh, they had one, uh, with the, um, the danger role takedown, right. And then the, um, the, uh, brick for the, for the near fall, uh, you know, ref came out, never signaled to, uh, but he put his, he, he motioned his hands towards the Iowa corner and everyone went nuts. And I was like, there's.
00:32:06
Speaker
As of two didn't say two. He didn't get it. And then it took him maybe about like 10 seconds to realize he didn't. And then they all started booing. So that was a pretty fun moment. Well, that's good. I'm glad you got to have that trip. That's a good one. I need to do that one. Yeah, that would be sick. We've got the.
00:32:33
Speaker
We've got the Pac-12 championships coming up on March 5th. We're going to go check that out. We'll definitely hit up the finals, see some of the earlier rounds. We'll report back on how that goes eventually. Maybe the next episode, maybe not. We'll see how things go. We are not going to be on any special schedule unless
00:32:52
Speaker
unless people share and tell others about the podcast and get us some people listening, then we'll feel more accountability. But we'll see. We'll see how it goes.
Closing & Listener Engagement
00:33:03
Speaker
I will say that if you have anything you want to share with us or any corrections, want to let us know about any omissions or you just want to comment or yell at us, tell us that we're dumb, you can email us at archaicwrestlingatgmail.com. You can follow us on Twitter, at archaicwrestling, excuse me, at archaicwrestle, because I couldn't, they didn't allow me to have that many characters on Twitter for some reason.
00:33:30
Speaker
You can do 4 billion character tweets now, but I can't have archaic wrestling. It has to be archaic wrestle. Unacceptable. Elon, fix it. No, that won't work. I don't hate people enough for Elon to want to listen to what I say. I do, I do, I do actually, but not the right people.
00:33:50
Speaker
Not the right, not the not the ones that he'll. End of he's not going to get under one of our tweets and go looking into this right now. Concerning. Maybe if we were archaic, wrestle turd to maybe then we'd get a couple. You take a look, you'd invite us in and we could maybe he could give us a special algorithm. Definitely missed opportunity to everybody else. Yeah, definitely missed opportunity.
00:34:21
Speaker
All right, so yeah, next episode, we'll check in on some later antiquity. And maybe, depending on when we record, it might be before or after Pac-12s, that could be fun. But otherwise, thank you everyone for joining us, and we'll come up with a creative sign off one day. Peace. It's only going to get better from here. It has to. In all respects, it's only going to get better from here. We're going to embrace the grind.