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Episode 270: We're Time Spiraling!
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Hello, Podwalkers, and welcome back to another episode of the Goblin Lore Podcast!
Take a step back 19 years into the past to discuss Time Spiral story with Taya and Alex. The first return of Hobbes’ favorite dragon and the first trip back to Dominaria after years away. Things aren’t so good on the plane.
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Transcript
Introduction and Overview of Time Spiral
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Hello, Podwalkers, and welcome to another episode of the Goblin Lore Podcast. We are back this week to continue talking story, not current story, because there isn't any current story, but we are talking old story, going back to some old sets and covering story and and taking kind of a meltless look at the cards later on. But tonight, we are going to start a new block. We we covered the invasion story in cards recently.
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We're going back to Time Spiral. Well, forward from invasion but still back from the current day uh we ah I guess I'll just introduce myself introduce few hosts are here ho so take another own blue guy and my old intro when I gave looking at a Twitter handle, which her under no exists.
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I am found on the Govnlord Discord and nowhere else in social media right now. um
Exploring Thalen of Havenwood and Fallen Empires
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We have an opening question, but let Taya introduce herself and I can jump into that.
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yeah, I mean, that could be on the list for, for a later one out. Time spiral is easily my favorite lock for lots of weird and personal reasons, but, um, Yeah, so I guess before we we get into into that, can talk a little bit about that background and then get into the story.
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We do have an opening question. We wanted to just talk about a legend um from this set that you know kind of means something to us or that honestly that we have a good story for. it Because mine, and the the the card itself has, I haven't done much with Thalen of Havenwood, but Thalen of Havenwood is very much a legend.
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That would fit the very, very first deck that I ever built when I started playing Magic back in 1994. This guy is a 2-2 Elf druid for green green. I had a full set the Kymbrids. And has each Fungus gets plus one, plus one for each Spore counter on it.
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And then an activated ability black, Thrall deck was my favorite, but I do think that the... yeah a sport conor on each these play my yeah My very, very first deck that I ever remember building that wasn't just the pile of cards I own was a Thalid deck back in Fallen Empires.
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Yes, these these were... um i had a lot of fun with it. They were... I mean, Fallen Empires was not a good set, but it was a lot of fun to to play with these.
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Like all fungus, and these have kind of come back in some Dominaria sets, which is fun. But these were you know all funguses that during your so upkeep, you put a spore counter on them, and then...
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uh three of them so thalad thalad devour thalad thorn thalad you could or no if this thorns just zap people well you can remove the counters to do things Thalad could make Sapperlings.
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That Thalad Devourer could make Sapperlings. Could also sacrifice Sapperlings to get plus one, plus two until end of turn. Hey, six green green and you can get a Sapperling. Mostly build around those two. I tried to do a green go wide deck that was built around these Thalads.
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you know and And Fungal Bloom. That was a really important card that... yeah put spore counters on all your funguses or on a target fungus. God, it wasn't even that good. Green, green enchantment. with Green, green, put a spore counter on target fungus.
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Oh boy. But yeah, it was.
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Yeah. Six. Yeah. Six green meta for a one, one. Oh boy. And kid, could they at least deactivate their abilities at any time? Yes, I could at least make the Sapralinks at any time. Put a Sapralink token into play, treat it as a 1-1 green creature. Okay. the Yeah, so that it was, I mean, especially by today's standards, yeah they' not really good, but it was a lot of fun. whole story of Fallen Empires is basically you had an entrenched Kingwood group that is being replaced by an outside Kingwood group of some sort. The elves are getting replaced by the Thalots. They created
Mechanics and References in Time Spiral
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them as food, and the Thalots decided they didn't like being eaten.
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It's kind of the story of Fallen Empires. We get another legend in this set, Endric Sarr Master Breeder, who invented the thralls, which were a slave race to the Ebon Hand, and they decided they didn't need the Ebon Hand anymore. And so that's why when you control seven or more thralls, you sacrifice Endric Sarr.
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Yeah.
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yeah
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yep
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Yeah, no, it's, ah I don't know, it's it's cool. ah well and And now I just realized too, looking at the Thalen of Havenwood card, the flavor text, the sight of my Thalen still thriving is a bittersweet welcome to school of waste, means he got pulled forward in time. That's the story that's happening here.
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this is a This isn't like Commander Bex many years after this set, where they would print old legends in set and just be like, this is a person away from 500 years ago.
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We're just giving them a card and finally got hard in set. no, this guy apparently was pulled forward in time, is what they're saying. And I think that happened with all of his... Um, uh, but interestingly, two of her abilities have to do with dealing damage to things. And one just destroys a blue permanent because color hosing was still very much a thing back then.
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Um,
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yeah. Uh,
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the ble Right, it's only half of it. Yeah, the second one is Lightning Bolt, ah essentially. But it's Incinerate, since it can't be regenerated. Yeah.
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ah yeah And then the last one is just six damage each creature and player. Close to three so different magic cards, too. Yeah, I think that's it for now.
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I guess the the first one isn't exactly... Blue elemental blast. So yeah, so she, um, well, half of a red elemental blast, she basically has discard a card, do this other card, red cards effect.
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And that's the same cost as incinerary too, which is fun. Yeah.
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Um, and she has some really sick ass art from Matt Kavada. Um, Yes, because there's Inferno with... I pulled up Jaya Ballard flavor finder. own the Jaya original part. the one for... is it? Rite of Flame or something? From the secret lair, the Jaya Memoriam secret lair.
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Yeah, ah kind of the spell shaper thing. Yeah. i That was started Mercadian Masks. and
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Oh, yeah, absolutely.
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Oh, cool. I never realized that. there's ah There's going to be a lot of things that this they put a lot of attention to detail in all the little details of this block, which is the one of the reasons why I like it.
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It's also one of the reasons why it's super, super opaque and hard for people who don't have all the background of magic to understand what's happening. But I just look, all three of those cards, not only are they big like red cards that fit Jaya's flavor, all three of them have flavor text from her in Ice Age.
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Yeah. Inferno. It's a Inferno, at least the eighth edition on here. it's the I think the Ice Age probably has the same flavor text.
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Oh, no. Inferno is from the dark. It's not from Ice Age. But in in eighth edition, sixth edition is the first time they have flavor text from Jaya.
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And it says and it is some have said is no subtlety to destruction. They just must not have wanted to put a blue spell on a red card anymore. Very Jaya. So yeah. So some of these were were after the fact. But like this incinerate from 10th edition would have been printed before Time Spiral.
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um actually that does that one does card a card but yes i think toast is an appropriate no i just think they decided at that point red wasn't gonna get counterspells anymore and they didn't get another red counterspell until tibble's shrippery all right cool well
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yeah
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Yeah, I think they they probably decided like a repeatable counterspell might be a little powerful. though I guess destroying a Pomeranite is pretty powerful too.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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Oh, you're right. thousands You're right. That's a good point. They were much more about the color, which is ironic given the next set that we're dealing with. a ah You know, the point of the next set was to imagine alternative versions and wasn't supposed to create canon going forward, but it kind of created canon going forward.
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But yeah, that's that's fair. it cool so yeah time spiral block um was 2006 2007 somewhere in there all right yeah so
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ah right yeah so
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Yeah, holy moly. So yeah, this um one of the reasons this was my favorite set is because I'd been playing Magic on and off for most of its history. I got in with Revised in 94, so I missed you know a few sets before that, but a lot of the Legends and Antiquities and Arabian stuff...
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um kind of showed up in other places between chronicles and even even in revised it was the first time they did like what we think of as a course where they took the alpha beta unlimited stuff and then took a few cards out put a few cards in from other expansions so there's a few antiquities and arabian nights cards that showed up and revised and so
Teferi's Journey and Challenges
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oh i basically i had a good grasp and that there were times where I was playing less and more um but when this set came out in 2006 and was very referential looking back to the whole history of Magic, particularly the oldest parts of it um which is most of what I had played I loved it. There was so much. I mean a lot of, I think a lot of my love for the sort of Mel and Meltho stuff comes from Time Spiral Block
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where there's some really cool mechanical things that are interesting, there's some really cool flavor. things that fit into the mechanics and a lot of like weird history references. You have like castle Raptors where I can go into a lot of specific cards too much, but like I just, castle Raptors is a bird soldier that gets, as long as it's on tap, it gets plus zero plus two because in alpha there was a enchantment called castle that gave your untapped creatures plus zero plus two. So it's just these, all of these cards were referencing old things.
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um But so the set, the the story that we're going to talk about to tonight specifically, and we'll come back to the the individual cards later, we'll do a a look at the cards later.
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But the set, um the story for this was kind of doing the same thing. one of the One of the things that ultimately happened, just to set the stage a little bit, for for folks who might be familiar with some of the beats of the magic story, this block is when the mending happened.
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Not in the first book. That's the let's the culmination of this this set, this this block of story. But the whole point, like one of the big things that was happening is Wizards was not just building this set on the past, present, and alternate, present, and future thing and messing around with mechanics.
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They were also really going back to the past and doing a bunch doing a bunch of tinkering to... kind of change how the story was going to be told going forward. And we get the, this is the last set with the old school planeswalkers because then the mending takes that away. And we have the new planeswalkers, which sort of, mean, I guess we still have tech, we have today, but though there was a recent change to how that works too, pretty recently.
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And so this set from a story standpoint is kind of a pivotal piece, the pivotal spot where, But also it's not like, again, because it was so self-referential and looking back, it's really hard for some people to understand. New players were definitely turned off by it.
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This set also spun out. ah The reactions to the set also created multiple iterations of them completely revisiting how they build cards and build sets so that they don't have oh a block like this that new players just can't even understand and bounce off of really hard.
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But coming back, all of that aside, I guess let's talk about the story. And so this starts with Teferi, which is kind of fun. Teferi and Joyra. Um, they have been, um,
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living in a bubble ah outside of the time stream since invasion, which again, we just talked invasion during the invasion. Urza wanted to bring in Teferi and have Teferi help him fight the, fight the Phyrexians and Teferi instead said, you know what you do you, I'm going to protect mine. And Teferi phased out, um, Zulfir parts of Shiv and, a couple other regions are there.
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This is kind of now coming back after the the war, after the invasion is over and a few other things happen. We're coming back to Teferi kind of just you know coming back to dominaria to try to bring back all these places that he phased out and realizing that they were very awesome a little calculation starts to return here doesn't he thought and it had only been 100 years since they went um bye-bye and the resulting crash could destroy dominaria
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And due to the way that the whole set of Dominaria, the whole plane of Dominaria is set up as some killer of the multiverse, it's possible that Dominaria being destroyed could destroy the entire multiverse.
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Yes.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, might might have something to do with it with it not fitting. Also, all of the events that happened in between. like he He phased out all that stuff in the beginning of the invasion story.
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And so then there was the Wrath overlay, caused the artificial plane of Wrath to merge into Dominaria, bringing a bunch of geography with it that wasn't there previously and merging things.
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You've got all the stuff that happened during... apocalypse though I think that was more just weird apocalyptic things like weird ah death plagues by the name of Yawgmoth rather than planar mechanics but um yeah they joyra and to ferry uh start trying to figure out um yeah what they can they get to the regular world to try to 200 years late to try to figure what what they can do when they talk to frailes wouldn't be the first time to which is something up as you said is when they find out that
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are to to use the same sarcasm that the multiverse and review author had here, the our master of time. ah So miscalculated.
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Yay, one of my favorite characters. Although in her early printing, she's kind of skinny and she's still muscular, but she's not this big, hulking woman she becomes later after embracing spirit of code. I guess those are some older stories we're going to talk about.
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can say not the last time, which are more stories we could get to. Potentially. i have one, um, digitally. so when they're in sky paper I paper. I've been pulling the cards for it, but it's a, it's a grand lo word Lord Warlord Rada deck.
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Uh,
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Dominaria. Yeah. The one that, uh, generates a butt ton of mana when you attack with, uh, big creatures. Uh, yeah. Um,
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I got a you have a Rathud deck? I got an altar of her to one of my TTRPG characters, my Marvel Asgardian Berserker. So, yeah, have a custom altar of her to play. The one from the first Dominaria, or Dominaria. Yeah, I just need to... I have the rest of the... You know, the half of the deck that I've pulled sitting on my desk, and I need to pull the other half.
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Cool. But yeah, so this is this is where Radha first shows up. The Radha heir to Keld version um first shows up here. And this is you know part of part of the the consequences of the invasion there. You have Skyshroud and Keld in the same location. And so you have this this elf who has green-red and has these kelden you know more warlord tendencies as opposed to the old Skyshroud elves and kind of the merging of these things, but also significantly for the story, when the things they learn is that Radha can tap into the mana of these rifts. So that's one of the things that they discover coming back. There are rifts all over Dominaria.
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Ties into the mechanics of the set a little bit. They're basically all the mana of Dominaria is leaking out into the multiverse. But there's mechanics that mess around time, and I think both, want say both Suspend and Split Second represent time rifts in their art for most of these parts. But then this is also kind of part of the storyline. As they go, they learn that these rifts are causing stress and damage to the plane.
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um So Teferi trying to
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Yep. Which are mostly the consequences as they kind of learn later of the many, many apocaly that have happened on this.
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Yes. It's just kind of, they're the ones who tend to do big dumb things that tear holes in reality. And, uh, So then they get convince Radha and Freilis that Radha should come with him so that he can study her link to the Skyshroud Rift and you know see if he can learn how to fix these other rifts based on on some of that knowledge.
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It says Radha would rather stay and fight these time-displaced Gaffins, who now rule Kel'd, um And
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she's finally convinced by Teferi that he will give her his power. He will lend her his power to fight them. Part of it is some less than friendly banter, including a time when she jabs a spike through his head. And remember,
Confrontation with Nicol Bolas
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old school planeswalker, he is nigh immortal and all powerful, like lots of very, very powerful.
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And his his body is not exactly where he's living. It's just a place for him to pal around a bit.
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Exactly. And so, yeah, getting getting stabbed in the head is is a minor inconvenience to planeswalkers most of the time at at this point in time. ah which is also why, by and large, they haven't been the focal point of stories. For the most part, you only get them in the stories when they're side characters kind of coming from outside to trying to do something, like Freilis in the Ice Age stories, or when they are mortals who you know ascend like at the end of the book, and you get that in a few cases, like with Jaya and um Karn have have that has that happen too.
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So, yeah, they they go to Urborg because there's another rift there are with the overlay of the strangled foam raft. This is where they run into Venser. He has a similar link to his and to the local rift there.
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yeah He also has built a teleporter that interacts with them. So ah that's another thing, you know, another of of interest to Teferi again, trying to gather information and and learn yeah how these things work from the Muradin block story. When Venser shows up again, we find out he's been working on Phyrexian
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artifacts. And so that's fair. That's fair. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, and especially like the stronghold is you know, what is one of the strong points on Wrath, a Phyrexian creation um to be used as part of the invasion.
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Hmm. Okay.
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Yeah, so they ah after after a demonstration, though, this thing won't power down, and the rift spits out a huge shadow dragon. in the chaos, Teferi Plains walks them into the rift to try to figure how it works, and then he gets snapshots of all these disasters. And there's also a small important thing that happens this point in story, too. So this is, think, where kind of gets the idea that, okay, we need to fix these rifts tied to these disasters from all of these various things, which includes the Dominaria set, the eldest free Boren. That one was...
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um there are Everyone knows Nickel Bullis is the oldest kind of spend some time um elder dragon moving forward in the he tells himself that
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Yes. Yeah. And then yeah by this is where we get some writ some words from a that
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uh yeah it's i think this is another one where it's a very if you knew apparently know if you knew the history which i didn't at the time but then you learn fairly quickly that yeah that's nicole polis shows up here and um
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Yep, because of course, of course. Yeah, yeah but you know, of course he gets better. because as Planeswalkers would at this time.
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One other neat thing, which probably talk about a little bit more with the card. Yeah, this was the first set that came with what is now just a bonus sheet that they do for a lot sets. All three sets in this block they did. They had kind of a funky treatment. They did it in Time Spiral, and then they didn't it again until whenever they started making those bonus sheet cards in the last couple of years. You had your normal pack, normal disbursement of Commons and Commons rare,
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um But then they also had one extra card out of the time shifted sheet.
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Yeah. and
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yeah Yeah, the other two in this block, the quote-unquote bonus sheet was just part of the normal disbursement of cards. They were just different treatments on specific cards. So it's not like today where you might get the same card has two or three different treatments. There it was just like the specific...
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future site cards had a different border on them. um But the time shifted sheet, they gave them a purple rarity, which is also kind of a reference to fourth rarity that they kind of talked about not doing. And then lo and behold, years later, we get mythic rares like a year after this set too, I think. Yeah. and they were, they were all cards throughout. One of the fun things is this time shifted. So they're all things from the past. I think they printed at the old border on cards since they,
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went away from it and it's like the last time they did it for quite a while it wasn't until they started doing like judge promos with the old border it was just this one time they printed 121 cards on this sheet good cards bad cards everything
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yeah and all Yep, all like pre-modern cards um from Dominar, from, i guess, Saradarro was homeless, but just all pre-modern cards, mostly on Dominarian sets, but that included Nicole Bolas. Like, he's the only Elder Dragon they put in that sheet, but which which is cool, again, because then he's part of the story. Then they have that original card. You could potentially open that original card um in in in a booster pack.
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So, yeah, then after... After Teferi manages to lose in a duel and not stay dead, he does convince Nicole Bolas that. Maybe he would like it if the world continued to exist and also the multiverse. And so Bolas decides to head off and get some vengeance on people related to Tetsu and Azawa, the person who killed him before everything ends. He's got temper.
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I'm not going to help you, but you know what? I'll let you keep going. If you want to save everything, go for it.
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Yeah. Yeah. His... his
Radha's Rise and Time Spiral's Themes
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Yes. His, his contribution to the multiverse, not ending was simply letting to ferry work on it. If he wanted to, it's like, you know what? I'll stop. I'll, I'll, I'll stop distracting you. You go ahead and work if that's what you want to do.
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So yeah, that, that that's fun. And so if he leaves to ferry decides, Hey, let's go to Shiv and brings Venser and this the You know, they work, um,
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journeying with at the time. So they go, um, and then Radha and other members of their retinue go back to Skyshroud. After meeting with Freilis, Radha gets some Elvis rangers to, uh, go take out this Gotham warlord, Gret.
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After a battle that ends with him exploding, she's touched by the spirit of Keldon, makes a covenant with it and becomes a true Keldon warlord. We see represented, ah probably in the next set, I think is where we get the air to Keld card.
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Um, and then to fairy closes the shiv and rift bringing shift back, um, and, But this costs him his Planeswalker spark, which they don't.
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He did not know that that's what's going to happen. And then there's a cliffhanger when Shiven's attack. Yeah. And he realizes he doesn't have a anymore. never did get a hold of these. So that's the end of the first They're not known as some of the best books in magic history. We still have.
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Then p Planar Chaos and Future Sight. definitely were on the downswing with the story going into this and then. With Teferi as the main character the the whole time from what I recall. its I read all these books, but it has been while.
00:31:51
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I read them when they came out and I don't think I've read them since then.
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Which is all true. i I hadn't been reading a lot of story at that point. I had mostly taken a break from invasion until here. I came back in Ravnica, the block before this.
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But still, so like for me, in some of it, again, just there was so much nostalgia for me in this set, in this block. um One cool, I mean, there's some other there's a lot of little details here. like There isn't a ton of good story that was the full story summarization. There's some that are intentional, like Mirrod and Besiege got card. There's so many references to things. and One thing I want to point out, too, that all three sets in this block Their name came from a card.
00:32:57
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So there's only a handful of sets that have cards, or there's only a handful of sets and cards that have the same name. A lot of them are incidental like Morning Tide, but this was an intentional nod. Mm-hmm.
00:33:15
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Yep. Yep. And so there's there' are some that are definitely, these, I think most of the time it happens, it's intentional. But these are, these ones were definitely intentional.
00:33:27
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That Time Spiral is a card from Urza Saga. ah And then Planar Chaos and and Future Sight are both also cards that had been printed before the these sets came out. And so just looking at I think they did that very intentionally to try to, again, the the references run so deep in this set.
00:33:53
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The story has a lot of references back. That was kind of the whole point of this. They're touring Dominaria. This will get into it a little more in the next two sets um when they're going through and trying to close more of these rifts.
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They basically have a run through of all the different apocalypses, all the major events that happened before in Magic's history. gotta get a little section in one of these three books to talk about, Hey, remember when the whole planet was almost destroyed because of this? Okay, cool. And now let's close that rift. And
Conclusion and Future Discussions
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it's a succession of that until finally, um,
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the The multiverse has had enough. isis I was just reading through, you know, if you check out the multiverse and who can just talk about it. And we get, in fact, in this crew, we get our first new planeswalker. Which he doesn't like at all because it's styled after the first planeswalker.
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So yeah, I don't know. there Just gotta to remind him how much he is like his mentor that he spent all those years working for.
00:35:20
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yeah yep
00:35:30
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Yep. And, and mentor who he had like a very specific break with and he's not a big fan of just worked out. mean, like that was part of their conversation in the invasion set when Urza shows up, it's like, all right, you hear all the armies from, you know, the, the lands that you're from, they're ready to fight the invasion. And he's like, yeah, how about you fight your own war?
00:35:53
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And I take my people and we'd leave. Yeah. The folks who, at least Teferi has decided he is the protector of these folks, so he just phased them out instead.
00:36:09
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Yes, so like maybe a little bit like, maybe a lot more like Urza than he wants to admit for sure.
00:36:18
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Yeah, there's oh, here's a fun like bolus reference to and and these it's like boluses discard your hand if you take damage, which is an ability from his original card um is represented the story as his touch causing seizures.
00:36:33
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kind of a neat ah neat thing. There is also a lot of weird continuity things too that also get talked about in this article. So I'll talk to Hobbs and and give him um this link and ask him to throw this in the in the show notes too. So if this is something you're super interested in, if you remember Time Spiral and enjoy it or just a big end of the story and weren't around then, this is there's a lot of interesting things here. And the the person who runs this ran this blog is Very, very thorough in linking things.
00:37:03
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So thank you to Squire. No, there's an L in there. Squirrel? I don't know how I would pronounce that. um For running this blog and posting all of this information. It's super helpful for us. yeah It's great for community people. I know will be funny I found out about this from ah from my buddy Reinhardt who used this to catch up on some story that he was missing when when he was doing some writing for for wizards for magic.
00:37:32
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And so this is cool. I'll throw this in the, in the notes, but I think that does it for this week. We'll come, you know, join us again. We'll,
00:37:43
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We're going to keep going through Time Spiral. At some point, we'll probably talk. Hello, Podwalkers. you yes Yes, I'm really looking forward to Planar Chaos. And goblin more can be future site is also a very, very bizarre set. So to talking about be fun.
00:38:02
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