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Speaker: Hi everyone, I'm your host, Molly Ryder.
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Speaker: Today, I am so honored to interview an incredible woman.
Speaker: She is not only an amazing new mom, but she is a soulful, heart-driven entrepreneur with a passion for energetic healing.
Speaker: She offers group energy programs as well as private sessions.
Speaker: And you can check her out at elementalsphere.com.
Speaker: Please help me in welcoming Lanan Saprosine.
Speaker: Lanan, welcome to More Milk, please.
Speaker: Thank you for being here today.
Speaker: I'm so excited to be here.
Speaker: I'm so grateful you created this space.
Speaker: Oh, thank you.
Speaker: Well, let's just dig right in.
Speaker: If you can start by sharing a little bit about you and your family, where you live, how old your little is, that'd be great.
Speaker: Sure.
Speaker: So we live in Lyons, Colorado.
Speaker: So right outside of Boulder, near Denver, we're actually in the foothills of the Rocky Mountains.
Speaker: And it's a special place, a lot of beautiful nature.
Speaker: I live with my partner, Ravi, and we have an 11-month-old named Mirabai,
Speaker: And we actually co-live.
Speaker: So we actually are living in a home with another young family.
Speaker: So they have a one and a half year old.
Speaker: So they're about five months apart, the two little girls.
Speaker: And we live in a big house and we have lots of space for the girls to run around and learn and play.
Speaker: And also for mamas and papas to also expand and grow as well.
Speaker: That's awesome.
Speaker: That's so cool.
Speaker: I feel like that is a dream to just be hunkered down with another family and share it.
Speaker: We're doing our first winter together.
Speaker: So we'll see how it goes.
Speaker: It's only a six month experiment.
Speaker: Right.
Speaker: That's a good test, especially now Mirabai is getting to the age where she'll start walking, right?
Speaker: She's full walking.
Speaker: She's been walking for a month.
Speaker: She's an early walker.
Speaker: So she keeps me on my toes.
Speaker: All right.
Speaker: Yeah, it's going to be an active winter.
Speaker: I love it.
Speaker: Okay, so before you had her, and as you were pregnant, what was your breastfeeding experience like?
Speaker: Did you do a lot of research?
Speaker: Did you have ideas of what you wanted it to be?
Speaker: Were you excited, dreading?
Speaker: I was excited.
Speaker: I think I listened to your podcast yesterday again, and I think I was kind of like you.
Speaker: There was a lot of cluelessness.
Speaker: I felt like I had received a lot of mixed information.
Speaker: My mom was like this very proud breastfeeder.
Speaker: But as I delved in the story, I actually found that she only breastfed us for a couple months because both me and my sister were biters.
Speaker: And so she couldn't tolerate it.
Speaker: So she weaned us.
Speaker: We did an online baby course that was actually covered by our insurance.
Speaker: And there was a whole breastfeeding section.
Speaker: And I thought it was kind of stupid.
Speaker: I remember thinking that.
Speaker: But actually, there was a lot of things that went in and were helpful once we gave birth.
Speaker: But really, that was it.
Speaker: Like, I watched this, like, online, on my computer tutorial, you know, and the lady had the doll and she was showing some things and there were some diagrams and...
Speaker: but I knew I was gonna need to feel it.
Speaker: And so there was this waiting and uncertainty and I'd heard great stories and I'd heard some more challenging stories.
Speaker: And so I was just like ready for anything.
Speaker: Yeah, it's such a mixed bag.
Speaker: And it's so hard to really conceptualize until you're in it, because it's just like nothing else.
Speaker: You can't steal someone's baby and breastfeed it.
Speaker: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker: You're not able to breastfeed.
Speaker: Oh, I love it.
Speaker: All right.
Speaker: Well, let's dig in.
Speaker: Can you share a little bit about your birth experience?
Speaker: Did it go as planned?
Speaker: Were you at home?
Speaker: I know you have a unique experience.
Speaker: I'd love for you to share a little bit about it.
Speaker: Yeah, so it did not go as planned, but there was lots of aspects that went as planned and as we had hoped and made intentions for.
Speaker: So we had a home birth and we didn't end up in the hospital, which was our intention, but we had
Speaker: We had to stick to our plan instead of a lot of the stipulations for the state of Colorado, which would have taken us to the hospital.
Speaker: Let's be like, I'll take you back.
Speaker: So I was over, I was over 41 weeks.
Speaker: And so I was like eager, we're getting text messages.
Speaker: Like when's the baby coming is the baby here.
Speaker: And I was not having contractions.
Speaker: I was having Braxton Hicks.
Speaker: Like I was hard as a rock for months, but nothing, really nothing.
Speaker: And I was like eating,
Speaker: like eggplant parmesan.
Speaker: I was like trying everything and nothing was happening.
Speaker: And I was really trying to calm down.
Speaker: And I woke up in the middle of the night and like, I think my water broke, but I didn't want to wake up my partner because I, they were like, Oh, everyone needs to sleep.
Speaker: Like, and I had a few contractions, but then I actually fell back asleep too.
Speaker: And so in the morning, I said to my partner, I said, I think water broke last night.
Speaker: And he's like, what are you talking about?
Speaker: You think your water broke?
Speaker: And I'm like, well, I thought I peed the bed.
Speaker: That was what I thought happened.
Speaker: And then I went, no, that doesn't make sense.
Speaker: And but I didn't have my mucus plug.
Speaker: I didn't have anything.
Speaker: So.
Speaker: I was confused and we just email our midwives.
Speaker: We don't even call them.
Speaker: And they're like, well, do you want us to check?
Speaker: Are you like really unsure?
Speaker: So they ended up having us come in and they looked at it under a microscope and they saw it was the waters and my waters were open.
Speaker: But the law in Colorado is 18 hours.
Speaker: So, and I was getting close to an 18 hour mark and you need to be an active laborer.
Speaker: And so this is where they started what we call herbal inductions.
Speaker: Cause I didn't want Pitocin.
Speaker: I was really trying to let my body have a natural journey.
Speaker: And they put me on a breast pump.
Speaker: They gave me a lot of herbs during the breast pump sessions.
Speaker: They were quite long, actually.
Speaker: They're longer than sessions I even do myself now.
Speaker: I think it was, I was trying to remember, we would think it was like 45 minutes.
Speaker: Like it was a long time to be on a breast pump for the first time.
Speaker: And it wasn't a nice breast pump cause I had a bot mine yet.
Speaker: It was like kind of a old Medalla one.
Speaker: And the flange was a little bit of a weird size and a bunch of my colostrum came out.
Speaker: And so I was really, I was mad.
Speaker: I was trying to use the syringe to save it.
Speaker: Like it was drying up too fast.
Speaker: Like it was, it was a lot of things going on and I was just, I started to get mad.
Speaker: I also didn't feel well from the herbs that they were giving me to make me progress into active labor.
Speaker: And so I stopped the induction after like two rounds.
Speaker: So it was like about four hours.
Speaker: So yeah.
Speaker: I removed myself from the system or from licensed midwives.
Speaker: And so we gave birth at home.
Speaker: We had lots of like hiccups that could have taken us to the hospital, but we had a really experienced kind of old school midwife.
Speaker: And she, she got us through.
Speaker: But Mirabai was born that next day.
Speaker: So we, I was, my waters were open for a full 24 hours.
Speaker: And then I was laboring the whole next day and she was born at 10.06.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: And yeah, I was, it was natural.
Speaker: I, I pushed her out in one push, but I had been pushing for two hours, but I had no colostrum.
Speaker: So I had nothing for her.
Speaker: So when we talk about like the first latch or things like that, we had a partial Lotus.
Speaker: So I don't know if anybody knows what a Lotus is, but we kept her umbilical cord attached and her placenta in like a zip block.
Speaker: until it started to dry up.
Speaker: So it was over 24 hours, and it was around 36 hours.
Speaker: And then we had a horrid burning.
Speaker: But she was right on my chest, and she did the crawl, the, like, crawl up the chest, but she also pooped all over me.
Speaker: There was some meconium, like, all over me.
Speaker: I was like, wait, what happened?
Speaker: Like, oh, she pooped.
Speaker: I was like,
Speaker: And so they were like trying to clean my boobs off.
Speaker: And, uh, but she was trying to get something and there was nothing there.
Speaker: And there may have been a little bit, they thought, cause she was, she went to sleep, but she woke up so much that first night.
Speaker: And then the second night was the roughest because I had no milk.
Speaker: And then the third day went, wow.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: That second night is so rough.
Speaker: I struggled.
Speaker: Nothing to give her.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Can you share a little bit more about a cord burning?
Speaker: I've never heard of it before.
Speaker: Sure.
Speaker: So, so the cord had mostly dried up and it's just an energetic separating from the placenta and also separating from the mother.
Speaker: And it's a box, it's like a wooden box and they put the cord across and then there's a candle and Papa did it.
Speaker: So typically a lot of the cord cutting in traditions and even work with the placenta is done by the father because a lot of the father's DNA builds the placenta.
Speaker: but it's like this whole organ.
Speaker: So we were trying to get her to get all her stem cells and everything through.
Speaker: And then it was just, we said like a prayer, we welcomed her to the world and we burned it.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: That's so cool.
Speaker: And so I understand like, you know, like those first couple of nights, she wasn't getting much, but was the latch okay?
Speaker: Did, how did it feel to you?
Speaker: Um, it just, honestly, it just felt like she was like gnawing on my nipple.
Speaker: Like I didn't know if I had a latch or anything.
Speaker: And, um, and we had midwives who came to the house every day for the first few days.
Speaker: And so they were just like checking and they were, they all are like lactation specialists and they were like readjusting her.
Speaker: But, you know, it was interesting because I felt like I had no idea what I was doing.
Speaker: And I felt like she knew.
Speaker: And I know not all babies are like this, but she'd like shove me and like move my arm.
Speaker: And I'd be like, oh, okay.
Speaker: Like I'm definitely doing this wrong, you know?
Speaker: And she fixed herself.
Speaker: But it's really funny.
Speaker: She still does this to this day, but like she does this head turn.
Speaker: Like they tried to move her whole body and she didn't ever want to.
Speaker: She wanted her whole body to be kind of flat and then turn her head.
Speaker: And they thought it was going to be bad for her neck.
Speaker: But that's how she feeds.
Speaker: And they kept like readjusting her and I had to keep readjusting her.
Speaker: But that's not how she likes to feed.
Speaker: She still does it, you know, almost a year later.
Speaker: They have their favorite physicians.
Speaker: And then now it's like crazy.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: But when I, so my milk came in so fast.
Speaker: It was, and my partner wasn't home.
Speaker: He was like running errands.
Speaker: And I was terrified.
Speaker: My, my breasts felt like rocks.
Speaker: And I called the wrong friend.
Speaker: I was making a joke.
Speaker: I'm like, I called the wrong friend because she thought I had mastitis because she had had mastitis.
Speaker: And she was convinced I needed all these things.
Speaker: And so I'm texting my partner and he's like, call the midwives.
Speaker: Don't call your friends.
Speaker: And so I called the midwives and they were like, it's totally normal.
Speaker: Do you have a hand pump?
Speaker: So I put the hot on me and eight ounces of milk came out.
Speaker: Wow.
Speaker: Like they were even like, are you kidding me?
Speaker: And I'm like sending pictures.
Speaker: I'm like, no, this is like, literally I had so much pain and she was taking like a sip, you know, and like barely.
Speaker: And so.
Speaker: I didn't know what was going on, you know, and I was just trying to keep up.
Speaker: We had to go like buy breast milk storage bags because I hadn't bought them in advance.
Speaker: You know, I was like, I don't know which ones to buy.
Speaker: And but that was how a lot of my milk came out at the beginning was like on the Haka or on the ladybugs.
Speaker: And we were pouring it into the bags.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: And so did that like then help so that Mirabai could then, you know, get on the boob and drink or was it just like, I was just like in so much pain.
Speaker: I didn't want her to watch until I could get it down.
Speaker: And it took me a few hours to figure that whole thing out.
Speaker: And pretty consistently, even it happens sometimes in the middle of the night, I just wake up and I was like over full.
Speaker: And so instead of even like giving her the breasts that had the most milk, I would put the bump on that one because I just knew I needed to express, but she, she really wasn't drinking that much at the beginning.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: So that's when we started hoarding milk because just so much milk was coming out.
Speaker: And even at one point I got kind of lazy in the middle of the knife feeds and
Speaker: because I couldn't keep putting it on and or I put it on and then it fall off you know I'd fall asleep and it fall all over the bed but I got I mean we had to put pads in the bed because it would just be milk everywhere like yeah he's like did she pee I'm like no that's breast milk all over the bed I'm sorry and I know you mentioned before jumping on that there was certain pads that you like did you find do you want to share a little bit about those
Speaker: I don't know the name of it, but I'll find it so you can put it in the show notes.
Speaker: But basically, like, if you buy the wee-wee pads that you use postpartum, those are fine.
Speaker: But eventually a friend of mine told me to buy these reusable ones.
Speaker: And we actually used it because Mirabai got sick last week.
Speaker: She vomited.
Speaker: And it was good to have them nearby.
Speaker: So they're just nice to have, like, for you postpartum.
Speaker: raw smoke, leakage, and then just you can continue to use it when your little one gets older, if I pee the bed or get sick in bed.
Speaker: Yeah, no, that's fantastic.
Speaker: So I had the opposite problem.
Speaker: I was an underproducer.
Speaker: So I'm curious to learn more about this as you being an overproducer.
Speaker: So was it just like in the beginning?
Speaker: Did it resolve itself?
Speaker: Or did you have this?
Speaker: Have you had this ongoing?
Speaker: It's ongoing.
Speaker: And like overproducer at the beginning is quite intense, because just so much milk is being produced, because it's trying to gauge how much milk the baby needs.
Speaker: But I still leave most days if I feed out and about like the other breast is like squirting a ton out.
Speaker: And, you know, and I've I've been in mama's groups and milk circles where, you know, some kids can't tolerate the flow of an overproducer.
Speaker: And Mirabai's had some challenges.
Speaker: We had so we had a lot of spit up.
Speaker: We think either she was drinking too fast or she was literally drinking too much.
Speaker: Like she was like filling her stomach to a point where it was like beyond just because there was milk still flowing.
Speaker: And so spit up was like normal, like spit up on her clothes, spit up on the floors, spit up on us.
Speaker: Like even if we burped her an hour later, we keep her upright.
Speaker: She would still fit up because she was just over full.
Speaker: But also she did sometimes do the like coughing, gagging.
Speaker: And so that just,
Speaker: means your flow is just like super extreme.
Speaker: I mean, literally it's like, it's like a sprinkler and that still happens, but I have to tilt her back.
Speaker: So I have to tilt myself back because then she can control how much is coming versus like when she was a newborn where I was a little bit over her, that was like, not it.
Speaker: Like, it's just, it's like, it's dribbling down her face.
Speaker: She's like, you know, she's trying to get away from it.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: So like the lie back position tended to be the best so she could do more of the control.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: And also good for my posture.
Speaker: So I wasn't doing the hunch over.
Speaker: So as long as I could have her leg on top of me was better than going on top of her.
Speaker: Nice.
Speaker: What did you find joyful about the experience or surprising?
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: So I'll start with surprising.
Speaker: I did not know you breastfeed so much.
Speaker: Like I've been around babies my whole life.
Speaker: I worked in a pediatric office.
Speaker: Like I did not understand that if you breastfeed and you're not using a bottle, you are constantly like, I mean, it just felt like it was my whole day.
Speaker: Like there was very little space where I wasn't breastfeeding for the first few months.
Speaker: And even still to this day, I'm like, why am I still breastfeeding?
Speaker: This much time.
Speaker: That is the scariest part because and then I tried to tell some women that they were like, oh, it's so joyful.
Speaker: And I was like, yeah, but doesn't it take a lot of time?
Speaker: Did anyone tell you that it took this much time?
Speaker: So that was like the surprising part.
Speaker: I also think it's because I'm a go, go, go person.
Speaker: And I'm like, why is why am I still feeding?
Speaker: Why is still going on?
Speaker: But it is so joyful.
Speaker: There's nothing that compares to it.
Speaker: The bond that I have with her now, the time that we have spent together has been so precious.
Speaker: I've had these very spiritual moments where I felt like we've done this before and I've been her mother before and just like tears of joy and so much gratitude.
Speaker: And she's, you know, she's very big for her size.
Speaker: She's very advanced, but like she's just thriving.
Speaker: And I know it's because of the breast milk and she's really only been sick like twice in her first year.
Speaker: And we have friends who've been sick so many times and I just know that the gift of me helping her build her immune system, I'm just astounded.
Speaker: Yeah, it's amazing what it can do.
Speaker: Similarly, Luna is now 21 months, and we're still breastfeeding.
Speaker: She was sick last week, but I feel like the life of the sickness was much shorter, because, you know, we're still doing it.
Speaker: And I'm like, yeah, we're doing this all through the winter, because I don't want you sick for a long time ever.
Speaker: Well, and anything you're taking, so vitamin C or any like supplements are all going well.
Speaker: to her.
Speaker: And so what a gift, you know, to be able to, to give her all the extra nutrients.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Does Mirabai have a name for breast milk?
Speaker: So she doesn't speak yet.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: And we're actually like I was making jokes when she was small.
Speaker: I was like, I can't wait till she can like pull my shirt up and just be herself.
Speaker: And she's just doing that now.
Speaker: Like it's the like pull.
Speaker: She'll try to figure out how she knows I'm wearing a clothing that will be able to be breastfeed accessible.
Speaker: She's trying to figure it out.
Speaker: Like, how can she do it?
Speaker: But I'm curious what name she has for it.
Speaker: Like, we call it Milky.
Speaker: Like, we go, do you want Milky?
Speaker: And so, you know, she's just like, and then we used to do, are you hungry?
Speaker: And she's like, ah.
Speaker: Like, that's definitely one.
Speaker: And then, like, we're trying to do, like, all done.
Speaker: But, you know, she just, she's never done, basically.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Similarly, Luna, like she still loves her morning and night feeds and we do a little still over the night because we're co-sleeping.
Speaker: And I'm like, are you done?
Speaker: She's like, no.
Speaker: She's like, I just want to hang out here.
Speaker: It's all good.
Speaker: Mirabai was sick last week.
Speaker: And so she, her appetite was actually, because it was like a stomach bug.
Speaker: And so her appetite dipped a lot.
Speaker: And it was so weird to not feed so much.
Speaker: And then like, I'm back to my regular feeding schedule.
Speaker: I'm like, her appetite is bad.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Yeah.
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Speaker: I know you mentioned before we got on that you did 40 days.
Speaker: Can you share about that experience and as like a go-go-goer how that felt?
Speaker: So I think this was like the biggest message of pregnancy and giving birth was like the pace that you live isn't gonna work for a child.
Speaker: So I felt like even my whole pregnancy was this like unraveling
Speaker: And even COVID, you know, like COVID was right before.
Speaker: And then, and then the pregnancy was like, you can't live like this type A achiever timeline with a child.
Speaker: I listened to your podcast and you worked like till right before.
Speaker: And I wanted to give myself the whole month of November.
Speaker: which would have been given me a whole month, but I totally didn't stick to it.
Speaker: I ended up doing like working till like the 12th or the 13th with a client.
Speaker: But I really tried to be like relaxed for two weeks.
Speaker: And then I ended up having to put out fires with another client.
Speaker: And so I was still doing some work.
Speaker: And I really energetically thought that that was why she was late or like why she went over 40 weeks because she was like, are you done working yet?
Speaker: Are you like gonna rest?
Speaker: Because I had told everybody I was doing this 40 days.
Speaker: I have dreamed about it for years.
Speaker: And my family thought I was nuts.
Speaker: Like my mom didn't believe me.
Speaker: She's like, no, you're not gonna leave the house.
Speaker: You're, are you really, are you crazy?
Speaker: And we had no visitors in the 40 days.
Speaker: We just had like some mother's helpers upstairs and my bleeding stopped.
Speaker: like weeks before most people's did, just like had that time with her.
Speaker: It was like so much skin to skin.
Speaker: So, so, and, and I also did a lot of traditional Chinese herbs.
Speaker: And so I think this may have also contributed to the milk overproduction or like the large amounts of milk.
Speaker: Cause it was like ginger, everything, like everything I ate had ginger in it.
Speaker: I was drinking two different types of teas that are,
Speaker: good for postpartum but also for milk production and you can google them they're really popular in asian countries one's called dong shen and the other one is sheng pa tang sheng pa tang is a rough taste dong shen is delicious and i make it for all my postpartum mamas it's so it's like red red dates and gochis and ginger and super yummy but
Speaker: In some ways, in Asian traditions, everything you're doing is for milk production and for your recovery.
Speaker: And sometimes it's both.
Speaker: And so I felt super nourished.
Speaker: I wasn't having any dairy.
Speaker: I was having eggs.
Speaker: And so we were sure that she wasn't allergic to eggs.
Speaker: Like I didn't have any nuts.
Speaker: I didn't have a lot of things that would normally be exposed.
Speaker: And so
Speaker: We didn't have any allergic challenges within the next 40 days.
Speaker: And I know I have had friends who've had like so many challenges with that.
Speaker: Like I had one good friend who went and had Thai food her first week because she missed it and it was too spicy and her baby just threw up and was sick and the breast milk had like chili basically.
Speaker: Yes, yes.
Speaker: There's tons of these great books about the first 40 days and some lighter versions, but I wasn't exposing the
Speaker: her to a lot of allergens in the first 40 days.
Speaker: And so when I added things back, it was really slow and she, she did great.
Speaker: That's awesome.
Speaker: That's awesome.
Speaker: Now, I know you mentioned you also did co-sleeping.
Speaker: Did you start right away with the first 40 days or did you wait?
Speaker: We did.
Speaker: It's tricky when they're so small.
Speaker: I know.
Speaker: We looked into the sleep seven.
Speaker: We had taken a birth course.
Speaker: And actually, it was a really interesting birth course.
Speaker: It was like through the hospital, but it's like the midwife birth center.
Speaker: And so it was like one was on...
Speaker: labor.
Speaker: One was on postpartum and then one was on baby care.
Speaker: So it was like three, like I thought they were very practical.
Speaker: And also I found out my partner had never changed a diaper.
Speaker: So I was like, we have to go do so we can practice.
Speaker: But they had done demos for co-sleeping and like safe ways to like keep her separate.
Speaker: And
Speaker: But this is where I always say the boppy, the boppy is our best friend.
Speaker: I didn't know what kind of pillow to buy.
Speaker: I saw you use the breast front.
Speaker: We tried that for two days.
Speaker: I thought it was too stiff.
Speaker: And a neighbor literally gave us her boppy.
Speaker: And we still have it.
Speaker: And we still keep it on the bed just in case because she loves it.
Speaker: She cuddles it.
Speaker: But the boppy was our best friend.
Speaker: But they say for babies to not sleep on it.
Speaker: But nearby slept on it like 50% of the time.
Speaker: I'm not going to lie about it.
Speaker: You know, like when she was really small, I would try and then slide it out.
Speaker: You know, I didn't want her to like smother herself, but she loved falling asleep on the bobby.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: You got to just do what's right for you and your family and follow your own instincts.
Speaker: You're the mom, you know, best.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: And I mean, we got, we went and bought a king size bed.
Speaker: we were pregnant so we got a bigger bed um and we actually we got one that like goes up because i had reflux during pregnancy and so that was easier for breastfeeding but i i honestly i can't even wrap my head around other people's postpartum because i was like in that bed all the time and we were co-sleeping and we we didn't leave a lot and you know we have a baby changing table and we i don't think we ever changed her on it once um
Speaker: Like mostly we will change her on the couch or the bed or like on the floor.
Speaker: You know, like we have a million other like changing pads, but we've never put her on the table.
Speaker: And in the night we got really good at changing her on the bed.
Speaker: And my mom was like, I don't understand.
Speaker: She's going to pee and poop everywhere.
Speaker: I'm like, no, she's not.
Speaker: She didn't.
Speaker: You know, it was very helpful for feedings in the night.
Speaker: It's more challenging when they're small because you can't side lie.
Speaker: And also because we had a lot of the spit up like reflux.
Speaker: I just didn't want her to choke on it.
Speaker: That was my biggest fear.
Speaker: And so sometimes she would fall asleep like on top of it.
Speaker: We called it actually on sleeping for the first like two or three months because she didn't sleep on the bed.
Speaker: She slept on me.
Speaker: And so we just had to make me as comfortable.
Speaker: That's so precious.
Speaker: I love it.
Speaker: So what was your partner's experience like during this time?
Speaker: He loved it.
Speaker: The one thing he has been really public about is he actually didn't love the infant stage.
Speaker: You know, it was really hard.
Speaker: He didn't have oxytocin flowing through his body.
Speaker: You know, we do have feel good hormones too when we're breastfeeding.
Speaker: So the screaming and the constant changing and the waking up was rough on him.
Speaker: And so he...
Speaker: He was doing the best he could and he was just good at being a really good support person.
Speaker: Making sure I was fed, making sure there was bars next to the bed, making sure I had a lot of water, that I had electrolytes.
Speaker: He's good at that kind of nurturing.
Speaker: We had a small celebration for our 100th day, which is more traditionally Korean actually, but it just felt like we made it through.
Speaker: And on her 100th day, she started laughing.
Speaker: And I always say that that was the turning point for him when he really started to connect with her.
Speaker: I think it is hard for papas, but I was going to tell you this.
Speaker: I don't know if you've read about this, but if you give papas some breast milk, it helps them not only bond with the baby, but also any depressive type symptoms that they are having for the old life or any other.
Speaker: new challenges, it helps them with that.
Speaker: Somebody told me that at the beginning.
Speaker: And so I was trying to get him to drink it.
Speaker: And he's like, okay, I'll drink it.
Speaker: And it's, it tastes good.
Speaker: It's sweet.
Speaker: You know?
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: That's awesome.
Speaker: That's such a good tip.
Speaker: Thank you.
Speaker: If you're an overdue, sir, you're not like, you know, yeah, exactly.
Speaker: If you got it, I love it.
Speaker: I love it.
Speaker: And then you said, you mentioned after like, you didn't have family come visit for 40 days.
Speaker: So what was it like when family came to visit?
Speaker: crazy.
Speaker: I think we were so used to our cocoon and our little cave and like the rhythm that we had, they wanted to go out and do all these things.
Speaker: And we were so used to staying at home and being really kind of isolated a little bit.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: And also she had a really unique sleep schedule or not that's unique, but she would go to bed
Speaker: between four and five, so quite early for her first night's sleep, and then would wake up for feedings.
Speaker: And so we couldn't really go to dinner or even have dinner.
Speaker: Like, we tried to have family, and we had a two-floored house.
Speaker: And so they were upstairs eating dinner.
Speaker: It was, like, way too loud.
Speaker: And I was like, get out.
Speaker: Like, it's too loud.
Speaker: And we had a lot of routines, like, with the lights dimming and, like, the sound machine and things that helped her wind down.
Speaker: And even the first...
Speaker: group of family that came in she was sleeping like on me and my boobs were out and like she was like latched and that was like how they saw her first like literally like in this dimly lit bedroom with her like laying on the boppy like on the breast yeah yeah yeah i was like well this is what you're gonna get and like we had to really like there were some like even my mom a little bit was like don't breastfeed around your dad and i was no my dad's a grown-up he'll be okay
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: He can walk away if he needs to.
Speaker: It's uncomfortable for him.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Right.
Speaker: I love that you gave yourself the time to set up routines and it is so interesting in the beginning.
Speaker: And just like you said, sort of that early phase, even from pregnancy, just understanding that the life you led before is not going to be the life you lead after.
Speaker: And, you know, baby has, you know, just so many needs and really their goal at that moment is to just grow.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: and everything you can be doing to support them in their growth and development and creating those beautiful routines is important.
Speaker: Yeah, it can be hard for family.
Speaker: We had similar challenges.
Speaker: And I think it's also part of the evolution as a mama, either a first time mama, or even if you're doing it the second or third time, but just having boundaries.
Speaker: This is our family and this is how we do things.
Speaker: Because I feel like a lot of people have opinions and their thoughts about how babies should be taken care of and
Speaker: you're the mama, you're in charge and, or you're at your family unit knows how you want, you want to operate.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: That's part of stepping up as a mama and saying, no, this is how we do things here.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: So I want to circle back to the pump for a minute.
Speaker: You mentioned there's, you use the hot gun in the beginning to help catch all of the surplus.
Speaker: Did you then ultimately get a pump of your own and what did you use?
Speaker: What was that experience like?
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: So, I mean, we had like a surplus and so we had a fair amount of bags in the freezer and, and then we had like, um, we had family, uh, some cousins watch her while we went to an event and they didn't understand breast milk so well.
Speaker: And so they like defrosted all five bags that we brought.
Speaker: And so I was, and so we couldn't really use it after that.
Speaker: And she only ended up drinking half a bag, you know?
Speaker: we had extra just in case she was hungry.
Speaker: And so I ended up like using it in the bath or something, but like little mistakes like that, like we lost our surplus.
Speaker: And so it was like, all right, I'm an overproducer.
Speaker: And I had friends who were pumping like every day and I was going to milk circle.
Speaker: And I actually, the mixed milk first milk circle I went to was a lot of women who were mostly pumping.
Speaker: And because a lot of them are going back to work and I, I work from home, so I didn't have that.
Speaker: So,
Speaker: and my insurance coverage, so I wanted to make sure to get one.
Speaker: So I did a lot of research and I got the Spectra and that was cordless.
Speaker: I think it's the Spectra 2, the blue one.
Speaker: And I watched a ton of Instagram videos on like how to do it and how to get the flow.
Speaker: And I was, it actually reminded me of my journey when I became, when I was a vegetarian and I started eating meat again, it was like, I'm going to do it.
Speaker: I'm going to do it.
Speaker: No, I'm not going to, I don't want to eat it.
Speaker: And like, I went back and forth.
Speaker: Like I would set everything up and then I'd be like, I don't really want to do it.
Speaker: You know?
Speaker: And then the next day I'd be like, don't know.
Speaker: I like really, I'm going to do it.
Speaker: And so my partner like take the baby for a walk.
Speaker: And then I'd,
Speaker: I put the, I had the right bra, you know, the planches on and I was like, okay.
Speaker: And then I did it and it was like, not so bad.
Speaker: I think I had a lot of fear that it was going to be like labor and, and also that it might be painful or whatever.
Speaker: And, and it was fine.
Speaker: So mostly I did it like once a week and it was usually when I knew I was going to like need more than a certain amount of time away from her.
Speaker: She was just feeding pretty much hourly.
Speaker: So I knew if I just like even needed to do an errand that took a drive that was an hour, I needed to have milk.
Speaker: But she didn't love bottles.
Speaker: So it took a while because the bottles that were recommended to us, she was like, I'm like, yeah, I didn't figure them out.
Speaker: And like Ravi would like squirt it in her mouth and then she just spit it all up.
Speaker: And he's like, I don't know what I'm doing wrong.
Speaker: And then I ended up just going to the advent ones.
Speaker: super like the generic ones.
Speaker: And we ended up getting the last bottle ones.
Speaker: And that was like the easiest.
Speaker: My trick was like, just hold it like it's a boob.
Speaker: That was the, that was what I told everyone who fed her.
Speaker: I said, pretend you're feeding her from your nipple and then she'll take it.
Speaker: And then she did.
Speaker: Nice.
Speaker: And now she doesn't even, she's not interested in a bottle.
Speaker: So she'll just drink it like in a cup.
Speaker: Oh, that's awesome.
Speaker: She's like, look, look, look.
Speaker: And she learned how to drink out of the hot gut and learned how to drink out of the ladybugs too.
Speaker: So like, if she knows there's one on the other breast, she'll like pull it off.
Speaker: That's amazing.
Speaker: That's awesome.
Speaker: That's such a good like next to the bed from the nighttime.
Speaker: She'll be like, I should grab it.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: That's such a good like drinking tool.
Speaker: Cause they're just like that perfect little lip.
Speaker: Exactly.
Speaker: Oh, I love it.
Speaker: With the pumping, did you end up having any favorite accessories or pieces that helped?
Speaker: You know, like not really.
Speaker: I mean, I think for me, sometimes I'd put the bag in the bottle and sometimes I didn't.
Speaker: I poured it in.
Speaker: We didn't have any like catastrophic pours that fell, you know, mostly that stuff happened in the bed.
Speaker: And then I, I had this, I have a tank top and I have a bra that I got secondhand and
Speaker: I was going to buy the fancy ones and then I never, the Bravely ones, I never got around to it.
Speaker: So what I have has worked fine.
Speaker: I can't do other things while I'm pumping.
Speaker: Like you guys who do that, you're amazing.
Speaker: Like I just find I have to be present with it, kind of the way I have to be present with breastfeeding.
Speaker: If I'm on the computer, on my phone, it doesn't work.
Speaker: But I don't pump for longer than really 15 minutes because a lot comes out.
Speaker: And the only time I had to pump like out and about, they did buy a cordless one was I had a mama retreat day and I went to a retreat center and I, it was, I don't know what happened to like something I ate there.
Speaker: I think I had like some kind of chai with something and I just started like, it was like rocks again.
Speaker: I was like, use the pump because I tried using the hot gun.
Speaker: It wasn't strong enough.
Speaker: So I just got the specter on.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Cool.
Speaker: How have you handled breastfeeding out and about?
Speaker: I know you've spoken a little bit about with your family there and, but curious about that.
Speaker: From the beginning, I, I was just like, I'm just going to do it.
Speaker: And there are moments where I feel more self-conscious, but I really, I hang out with women who breastfeed.
Speaker: I tend to go to events where there's a lot of breastfeeding women and
Speaker: Yeah, like there was like, it was a national breastfeed and public day and we went to the public pool and actually one of our friends got yelled at at one of the pools for doing it.
Speaker: She was so mad.
Speaker: She like literally brought in the law to them.
Speaker: She's like, breastfeed is sterile.
Speaker: Best smoke is sterile.
Speaker: People pee in these pools.
Speaker: Like, are you kidding me right now?
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: They were like, but they were literally like, it's like food.
Speaker: You can't, you know, feed here.
Speaker: But like the four of us sat on the side of the pool and fed and it was just really like empowering.
Speaker: So I just, I've been trying to,
Speaker: create more empowering situations for myself.
Speaker: Mirabai is like very, like when she wants milk, she wants milk and I can't, my modesty goes out the window.
Speaker: Like if someone's staring at me, like I'll kind of like try to pull my shirt over.
Speaker: But like most people don't stare.
Speaker: Like I've had people like one woman was staring at me in a coffee shop and I thought it was weird.
Speaker: And she said,
Speaker: I'm breastfeeding too.
Speaker: And you know, that's why she was staring.
Speaker: She was like, how old is she?
Speaker: Like, you know, that, that was why she was staring.
Speaker: It was more like, and I've had people just be like, yeah, mama, like, you know, just saying things like that to me.
Speaker: And I want it to be normalized, but I do know it's, it's a little, I think how comfortable I've become is a little weird because
Speaker: Because like, I'll just like, we have funny, I'll send this to you.
Speaker: It's a really funny photo.
Speaker: I was walking in Target and I was carrying nearby and she's like pulling my shirt.
Speaker: So I literally am like holding her and feeding her and walking down the aisle at Target.
Speaker: But like, that's how we do it.
Speaker: Like, yeah, I'm not, I don't always have time to sit down and feed her.
Speaker: I'm doing things.
Speaker: Right.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Or the,
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Or they don't want it when you're like in a place where you can sit down.
Speaker: It's like, all right, well, we're walking.
Speaker: So here we go.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Or when it's quiet and peaceful.
Speaker: Well, Mirabai is now 11 months.
Speaker: So I'm assuming she's got a few teeth.
Speaker: How did it go with breastfeeding and the transition with teething?
Speaker: It's been good.
Speaker: I actually think the breast milk is really helpful with teething.
Speaker: You know, and my mom, every single time I talked to her on the phone, she's like, how many teeth does she have?
Speaker: are you still breastfeeding?
Speaker: That's like the question that I got pretty much once a week from my mom.
Speaker: You know, she's, she has bit me.
Speaker: I'm not going to lie about that.
Speaker: And I've read like everything you can read about it.
Speaker: And it's just like, I try not to have a big reaction.
Speaker: I just, I'm like, owie.
Speaker: And then, you know, she doesn't get milk.
Speaker: I've never had her clamped down so hard that I had to like cry her off, but I found it's, you know, my background is in child developmental psychology.
Speaker: And so,
Speaker: you know, even the way we speak, the way we express comes through our mouth.
Speaker: And so her biting, if she bites, is her saying something.
Speaker: She's trying to express something.
Speaker: And the only times she's bit me, she was, I was distracted.
Speaker: I was like trying to do something while I was feeding.
Speaker: She's like, you know, pay attention to me.
Speaker: Or she's in pain, right?
Speaker: Like, you know, after she's fallen or something's happened and I'm trying to soothe her and she's still in pain.
Speaker: And so usually then we just take a break.
Speaker: We calm down a little more and then we come back.
Speaker: I'm, I'm optimistic, you know, like she and I have a good relationship where I don't think she wants to bite me to hurt me.
Speaker: And I don't think that, and even sometimes when she latches funny with the teeth, I'll just take, like take her off and relatch her and she's okay with that.
Speaker: And we have enough routines with feeding that she like, you know, she knows when we go into the bedroom and
Speaker: Like it's feeding time and she can like either take a nap or she can go to bed for nighttime.
Speaker: And so she's not fight.
Speaker: There's no, I always tell her there's the milk cafe is always open 24 seven.
Speaker: Like don't feel like I will ever restrict you from milk.
Speaker: And then you don't have any reason to fight me or hurt me.
Speaker: I know that's not everyone's story, but right now we're okay.
Speaker: We have six teeth.
Speaker: Mostly I've seen Ross Moke be really supportive for her teething because she's
Speaker: her first round of teething, she had something called teething fevers.
Speaker: And it's like a fever for four days.
Speaker: And I'm not using Tylenol.
Speaker: So it was just like breast milk was everything to keep her.
Speaker: And then sitting in the bathtub with breast milk was helpful too.
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Speaker: So you're 11 months in preparing for the long haul.
Speaker: How do you feel about continuing breastfeeding?
Speaker: I feel good.
Speaker: I am, I've been trying to do my research because that's who I am.
Speaker: So I try to talk to a bunch of mamas who breastfed, you know, to two or even three or more.
Speaker: And everyone had such a unique journey.
Speaker: So I would love to give you some of their names to talk to them because yeah,
Speaker: At first I thought it was like, oh, there's like a system and I'll get the system.
Speaker: And then, you know, oh, maybe we get rid of night weaning or like, or date or something.
Speaker: But I found that every single kid had something different.
Speaker: And so I really surrendered to letting her guide and also paying attention to my own feelings.
Speaker: Right now, co-sleeping is still working and sometimes I'm exhausted, you know?
Speaker: And so I,
Speaker: I have to see what works best for me.
Speaker: And I, that's what's going to be the harder part.
Speaker: Cause I really, I tend toward whatever Mirabai wants.
Speaker: That's what I'm going to do versus like, what do I really need and what's going to help me thrive.
Speaker: But right now breastfeeding is supporting me and thriving.
Speaker: It is very draining.
Speaker: I will say that because I on demand breastfeed and I eat so much food, way more food than I ever ate before.
Speaker: But right now I'm, I'm just, I'm committed to that and being there with her and,
Speaker: having that, that support, like soothing piece for her and that nutrition.
Speaker: So we'll see how it goes right now.
Speaker: Like my partner knows she's not stopping anytime soon.
Speaker: Cause like we had friends who like naturally weaned that one year and he's like, Oh, she's not doing that.
Speaker: So yeah, it's like, we haven't lost feedings or anything.
Speaker: Like if anything, like when she goes through growth spurts, she goes up.
Speaker: But one thing I did want to mention that's been really interesting.
Speaker: So my moon came back.
Speaker: My period came back quite early, actually, around four or five months.
Speaker: And my milk production dips.
Speaker: And people had told me that would happen.
Speaker: But it was not so pronounced to me.
Speaker: It's more pronounced to her.
Speaker: And it's the only time at night she does this thing.
Speaker: It's really annoying.
Speaker: She wakes up like, it's like an alarm.
Speaker: system.
Speaker: And I literally, I take all the herbs, like I have my nettles tea.
Speaker: I have like so many things that I am doing to supplement and it's not enough because my hormones are dropping and I'm not making milk.
Speaker: And so we started giving her some goat's milk.
Speaker: So goat's milk is the most similar and our friends have goats.
Speaker: And I just did a test.
Speaker: Like I gave it to her one day and she
Speaker: chugged this milk down, like was so excited about it.
Speaker: So we haven't been able to fully like figure it out.
Speaker: But my plan is to do kind of one or two cups in the few days at the beginning of my moon to see if I can stave off her, you know, like starving, you can't make enough milk for me.
Speaker: But it is it is a challenge.
Speaker: I've heard some women have no milk.
Speaker: And one friend really, really struggled.
Speaker: And that's when she started to do blend in formula.
Speaker: And so she sent me like a jar of Bobby or Bobie or whatever it's called.
Speaker: And I'm so I have it in the cabinet, but I haven't, we haven't tried it yet, but I'm really trying to leave.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: We, we use goat's milk too in the beginning when we also transitioned to giving her dairy milk and she really liked the goat's milk.
Speaker: It was, it was a good transition.
Speaker: I know you mentioned a lot of resources.
Speaker: You talked about the ladybugs and the haka and the washable bed pads.
Speaker: And then you had sent me a few other recommendations.
Speaker: So I don't know if you want to talk at all about the lanolin nipple cream or the silverettes.
Speaker: Oh, yeah.
Speaker: So the one thing I didn't mention, so because my milk came in so fast, it like something happened to the skin of my nipple.
Speaker: And I, I got a crack.
Speaker: And like, that's like the worst thing.
Speaker: And I know some people just like, and then that's why you scab.
Speaker: But I never scabbed because she was feeding so much.
Speaker: And two midwives like that were lactation specialists were like, can you keep going?
Speaker: Like, does it hurt so bad?
Speaker: And the woman that had given me the haka, she like sold it to me on Facebook Marketplace.
Speaker: And she was like, do you want this lanolin?
Speaker: I had a whole tube of this lanolin.
Speaker: And I was like, sure.
Speaker: I had no idea why you need it.
Speaker: I had a bunch of nipple butters.
Speaker: I didn't like any of them.
Speaker: None of them.
Speaker: I had Earth Mama.
Speaker: I had this local one from Wish Garden.
Speaker: I hated them.
Speaker: They're all olive oil based.
Speaker: I did not enjoy them.
Speaker: I like pure lanolin.
Speaker: It has to have that in it.
Speaker: And so there's like the lanosha and then there's the yellow one, the medulla one.
Speaker: I like the medulla one best.
Speaker: But I would just coat my nipples because that was the only way because I had a huge crack around like the edge of my right nipple.
Speaker: And it's even has a scar now.
Speaker: It's properly still there.
Speaker: But it was the only way I could keep feeding.
Speaker: I mean, that was the other great thing about
Speaker: first 40 days is I could just be topless at my house all day and like let my nipple breathe.
Speaker: So it could kind of heal.
Speaker: Cause if I had had to wear a bra and a shirt, it would have been excruciating.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Just because it was, and I, the latch, the latch is the hardest part.
Speaker: I think you probably remember that too.
Speaker: It's just like when they latch, you're like, no, no, Kate.
Speaker: And then you just breathe through it and then she could, you know, feed.
Speaker: But I was pretty much constantly doing that.
Speaker: And then now,
Speaker: what I find is that she, sometimes my nipples just get raw.
Speaker: That's the only way to explain it.
Speaker: And like, if I'm not being a little bit more mindful about using the lanolin regularly, they get raw.
Speaker: And a friend of mine actually got the little silverettes from her registry and I didn't get them.
Speaker: I put them on it.
Speaker: Nobody bought them, but she's like, you can have them.
Speaker: I never use them.
Speaker: And I love them.
Speaker: It's like so cooling.
Speaker: And my nipples feel like,
Speaker: I wear them overnight and I feel like a thousand times better if I feel like I went to bed with raw nipples.
Speaker: That's awesome.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: That's so cool.
Speaker: The first time I heard about them was another woman used them.
Speaker: Like people who pump a lot, they feel really nice on those too.
Speaker: Oh, that's a good tip.
Speaker: It's a great tip.
Speaker: And you also mentioned you use rat breastfeeding bras.
Speaker: Do you want to share a little bit about that?
Speaker: I'm going to grab one.
Speaker: So, you know how like a lot of them have the clip?
Speaker: Yes.
Speaker: And I just...
Speaker: I have those, I have two really nice ones and mostly I like them because they make my boobs look good.
Speaker: That's really the only reason why.
Speaker: And I can still breastfeed, but they're just not practical.
Speaker: And so they're the, what I like is like the v-neck wrap ones.
Speaker: And then you can kind of just like pull them open and she can pull them down.
Speaker: All of them are like super soft, cotton, like really nice.
Speaker: And I, I intuitively I bought them before.
Speaker: And I'm so glad I bought those ones because your boobs don't look fantastic.
Speaker: I'll just say that.
Speaker: They're kind of just not supported.
Speaker: They're just there and they have a cover and they're actually really just nice at night when you're sleeping.
Speaker: If you don't want your boobs out and like maybe have a hundred percent access, then you can kind of pull down.
Speaker: But they're really nice.
Speaker: That's awesome.
Speaker: If you want an alternative to like having to unclip and then like make sure your boobs through the hole, it's a whole thing.
Speaker: That's challenging for me.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: No, I hear you.
Speaker: My baby needs to be fed right away.
Speaker: She's very particular.
Speaker: I have to like snap thing.
Speaker: She's not having it.
Speaker: She's not into it.
Speaker: No, it's an immediate thing for sure.
Speaker: Oh, all right.
Speaker: We have hit the rapid fire question section.
Speaker: So what was Mirabelle's first food?
Speaker: Yogurt.
Speaker: Yogurt.
Speaker: Organic Greek yogurt.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Nice.
Speaker: And are you a morning person or a night person?
Speaker: I was a night person, but now I think I'm a morning person.
Speaker: Maybe change.
Speaker: I hear that.
Speaker: Do you prefer coffee, tea, water?
Speaker: Tea.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: I love a good tea.
Speaker: I like matcha, chai.
Speaker: And what's your go-to recharge activity now with Mirabelle?
Speaker: Just any alone time, really.
Speaker: A walk by myself is amazing, but just time in a room where I don't have to track her is it recharges me.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: A shower.
Speaker: Yes.
Speaker: Do you all have a favorite bedtime story?
Speaker: So our favorite one was this baby animals.
Speaker: She loves anything with animals, but like the black and white baby animals one was her favorite.
Speaker: And now she has this one, it's actually called Busy Baby Animals, but it's like pictures of actual animals.
Speaker: So like, there's like a gorilla with a mom and a baby and like a cheetah mom and a baby.
Speaker: And she loves it.
Speaker: Those are- That's awesome.
Speaker: And what's one thing that your partner does that really helps you out?
Speaker: Oh my God, he does so much.
Speaker: I could probably make a laundry list.
Speaker: I think the biggest thing is he does all the dishes and cleans up the kitchen.
Speaker: So I can just take her to bed and feed her.
Speaker: But he also makes me so much food, delicious food all the time.
Speaker: He remembers everything because I don't have the memory I used to have.
Speaker: And he doesn't get frustrated with me when I forget.
Speaker: Yes, mom brain is so real.
Speaker: It is, I'm literally trying to hack it right now with supplements.
Speaker: And some days I have good days.
Speaker: Some days I'll share that one.
Speaker: It's called Genius Juice.
Speaker: It's another herbal tincture.
Speaker: And if I take that, it helps my brain.
Speaker: Also magnesium.
Speaker: Yes, that's a good one.
Speaker: Well, is there anything else you'd like to share before we wrap?
Speaker: I know we've talked a lot of different pieces.
Speaker: I just want to say thank you to you, Molly, for sharing these stories.
Speaker: I think nobody is talking about this.
Speaker: unfortunately.
Speaker: And it's not even, I don't want, I don't want to scare women off.
Speaker: And I know everyone has their own journey and I know with ties and tongue ties and cheek ties are a whole extra, you know, thing, but I've seen women be so brave.
Speaker: I've seen women get back so much from breastfeeding and be able to provide food for their babies.
Speaker: And I know sometimes nature, you know, it feels like, Oh, it should be automatic and all these things, but,
Speaker: We're doing a great job.
Speaker: You're doing a great job no matter where you are.
Speaker: And just like we listen to labor stories to help us feel comfortable going into that journey, we need to be listening to these breastfeeding stories so we know what we're walking into and that anything can happen and that we'll have our own unique journey with our child and it will be perfect.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: I love that.
Speaker: How can people connect with you if they want to reach out?
Speaker: I'm the only person named Lynette Sopristine on the internet.
Speaker: So you can pretty much find me on all social media channels.
Speaker: And if you want to hear more about my energy work that I'm mostly exclusively doing is elementosphere.com session.
Speaker: But I have some fun, good social media content.
Speaker: I like to share about being a mama, being a woman.
Speaker: So I'd love to connect if something resonated.
Speaker: Awesome.
Speaker: Awesome.
Speaker: Well, thank you so much for being here.
Speaker: Really appreciate you telling your story and enjoy the rest of your morning.
Speaker: Thank you.
Speaker: Thank you so much for listening.
Speaker: If you've enjoyed today's episode, please subscribe, leave a comment on Apple podcasts, Spotify, Amazon music, or wherever you listen to podcasts and share with a fellow mama plus.
Speaker: And if you're interested in coming on to share your own baby feeding story,
Speaker: head to mollyrider.com and click on share your story.
Speaker: Thanks.
Speaker: See you next week.
Speaker: Bye.
