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FNAF The Fourth Closet? More Like The First Best Book in the Series! (Part 2)
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That's right, I'm saying it, with 2/3 of the book done I'm calling it, this is the best book. Of the FNAF trilogy. To be clear, it's like a good book but the fact that we are so over the top in the praise is mostly because of what came before. You know, like a coconut or something?
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Okey dokey.
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Okey doke.
Exploring Grimdark Themes in Five Nights at Freddy's
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We waited a long time for the series to get fucked up.
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It's pretty fucked up.
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Got some good body horror in this.
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Right?
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This part.
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Just crazy.
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Good.
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Right into the.
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That's where Five Nights at Freddy's needs to go into the far off grimdark.
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Yes, absolutely.
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Of course.
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Like they just had to wait until they got everyone really hooked.
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And then they were like, really hooked.
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Yeah.
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You know what we need is we need, we need Warhammer 40k, five nights at Freddy's crossover.
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That's what we need.
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Oh my God.
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Oh, and all of the, all the animatronics are manifestations of chaos.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Oh my God.
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Like,
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It's just like there's this it's somewhere in a hive city.
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There's like a there's like a restaurant or something like a food court with these animatronics and manifestations of chaos.
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And just the the plebs who go in and out are being corrupted by the chaos of these.
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I love it.
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Yeah.
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You could do it with gene stealers to do all.
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You could Imperial guardsman gene stealers coming up out of the sewers kind of thing.
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I guess they did do that with alien isolation though.
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Yeah, I can't wait for Alien Isolation 2.
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I almost thought that they just, like, they made that one phone game for it.
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And I thought, okay, that might be it.
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That might be it.
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Well, it's just like Creative Assembly spends most of their time working, like, pumping out Total War games.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So it's like, I guess Sega was like, okay, you can do another Alien Isolation as a treat.
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Right.
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As a treat.
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Enjoy that.
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As a treat.
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Sega makes a Yakuza game every year.
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So why not an occasional Alien Isolation game?
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That game fucking rules so much.
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It's the point that I had my, I, I, I had my switch, you know, Ohio was past the weekend and I was playing games on it.
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And I was like, alien isolations on switch, right?
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Like I'll, I'll, I'll rebuy it to have it on a handheld.
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Are you shitting me?
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Like that game rules.
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I will play any day, any day, all the time.
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And you know what else rules?
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What's that?
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Hey there, everybody.
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Welcome back to Pixel It.
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My name is Kevin.
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With me as always is Phil on today's show.
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We are diving deeper into the closet.
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That's
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The fourth closet.
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Five nights at Freddy's.
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The fourth closet.
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Oh, oh boy.
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Oh, brother.
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Oh, brother.
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We're getting metaphorical here.
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It's beautiful.
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I love it.
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It's beautiful.
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It's wondrous.
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And you know what's a wonderful website, Phil?
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So this book is getting interesting.
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Yeah, we waited a long time for the Five Nights at Freddy's books to get kind of fucked up.
Five Nights at Freddy's Book Trilogy Insights
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And about halfway through the final book in the trilogy, we got our wish.
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Yeah, yeah.
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I guess better late than never.
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So let's go ahead and put the body in the marsh.
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Body, marsh, on with it.
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When I tell you
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to dump a body in the marsh.
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You dump them in the marsh.
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Okay.
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Now, if you remember correctly, last episode, we ended off at chapter five and a not Charlie imposter murdered the shit out of poor Aunt Jen.
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Poor Aunt Jen.
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Very dead.
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Poor Aunt Jen.
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Very super dead.
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And then went off to find presumably the real Charlie.
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Yeah.
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I think that's what it's looking for in the first place.
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Right.
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So chapter six opens up with John and Jessica basically going to Clay's place and finding the Ella doll, the robot that he had said that –
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Charlie didn't have any interest in and they were like, that's crazy.
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They find a disc that can basically turn it into this baby version of Charlie.
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It's it's it's it's
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it says a little bit something about how all of this happens.
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Right.
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And they, within the same envelope that clay gave them, there was a bunch of photos and stuff of all of them.
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There's also some microfilm in there.
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And so they end up at the library where a, a stone cold standoff happens between Jessica and the librarian.
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This is such a, such a random moment.
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It was like, it's like, he's like,
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you know how to use microfilm?
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And she goes, actually, I don't.
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And he's like, John's like, no, no, I know how to use it.
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Are you sure you know how to use it?
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Yes.
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Yeah.
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And we get like half a page of like, may I show you to where we keep the microfilm?
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And they're like, we have our own.
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We brought our own from home.
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And he couldn't be more annoyed with them, sneering down his nose at them.
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Unlike any librarian I've ever met.
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It's like it makes me think of like a Roald Dahl story where like all the adults are just fucking assholes.
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Yeah.
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It's it's such a random moment.
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Just the worst, you know.
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Yeah.
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So in the microfilm, they're finding images of Charlie and they zoom in on her and find like lines, like basically striations in her face that clearly indicate that she is not Charlie, that she's an animatronic.
Discovery of Charlie's True Identity
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She's circus baby.
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Yeah.
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Essentially.
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Yeah.
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It's like every like for a while, John's like, no, no, that's just she's just moving.
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That's just nothing.
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And then they're like, oh, yeah, that is not a human.
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Yeah.
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And that's and that's what they realize that Clay meant last episode when he was talking about there's a maximum range.
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Right.
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Basically, it's, you know, if you're if you're further away or too close or something, it's just not convincing enough.
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It doesn't do the job.
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Right.
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It makes the shape shifting fucked up.
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Having discovered this, they realize that the real Charlie is probably in danger because the fake Charlie, the not Charlie, is searching for her.
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So they rush back to John's apartment.
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And that brings us to Chapter seven.
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I like the fact that she starts writing or she starts referring to Charlie, the fake Charlie as not Charlie in the text.
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It's a nice little conceit, isn't it?
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I like that too.
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Yeah.
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When I say not Charlie, I'm not being cute.
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No, that's actually how they refer to her in the book.
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I think that was a really, yeah, I thought that was really clever rather than like her clone or whatever.
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Right, right, right.
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I liked that too.
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I thought that was really cool.
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Um,
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So they end up at John's apartment and not Charlie shows up and it's awkward.
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It gets really awkward really fast because now John's been validated in the whole.
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She's not really Charlie kind of thing.
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And Jessica, he's had plenty of time to think this through.
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Jessica has not.
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They're all really freaked out.
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Sure.
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Charlie's kind of like, I don't know.
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There's a part of me that it feels like she's toying with them a little bit.
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Like, yeah, you know, she's clearly just because she's like,
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Because the scene starts and she's just kind of like, hey, how's it going?
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And then it's clear that she is just walking around the apartment looking under things.
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Yeah, exactly.
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Looking in hiding places.
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Very obviously.
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Yeah.
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And real Charlie is currently hidden behind the couch.
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Yes.
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And John has like been like, oh, well, before you come inside, I got to click on my boy.
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Boys don't clean.
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Oh, man.
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And just like, yeah, we'll we'll hang out here, you know, and it's just it's just awkward and tense.
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And he's hiding real Charlie.
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Unfortunately, she doesn't she doesn't find him, find her.
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And that's when not Charlie chooses to ask John out on another date at the same place, same old place that you and that wacky murderer had had dinner before.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And so he agrees.
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Yeah, sure.
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Fine.
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Sounds good.
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Just leave, please.
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And and they they both head out.
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He offers to give her a ride or something like that.
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And she's like, no, no, I got this.
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So Jessica and Charlie leave.
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We do get a quick moment at this point of Charlie, real Charlie waking up out of out of her unconsciousness.
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And we get little just a little snippet of her.
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And just like the fact that I think was basically to show she's OK.
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She's she's beyond help at this point.
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Right.
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So we cut to Charlie and not Charlie and John their date.
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And it is still incredibly awkward until finally John just kind of goes.
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I know what you are.
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I know what's happening.
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Like.
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Yeah, he's very straightforward.
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And meanwhile, he's got a walkie talkie in his jacket pocket for for Jessica and Carlton to listen to, because this is kind of like how this is how Jessica is kind of like breaking the news to Carlton.
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Like, hey, you know how John was being kind of crazy about how that's not Charlie?
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Turns out he was right.
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Yeah, he was absolutely right.
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And yeah.
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And so it's, he just kind of lets it go and it's actually pretty cool.
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It's really creepy.
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Not Charlie, instead of like threatening him or something like that, she gives him a kiss and says, well, it's always nice to have dinner and like starts kind of like laying it on real thick and like, yeah.
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You know, and because he's basically said, like, look, if I got to expose you here for all these people, I'll do it.
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I don't care what you do.
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Right.
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And so she's like, OK, we're in an impasse.
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And so she's like, well, that's just swell.
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Isn't that nice?
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You know, and it's this it's really creepy because she's like she's like so pissed, but she's got to be nice.
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Yeah.
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So she she leaves and we get Jessica shadowing her, following her.
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Right.
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And hiding in not Charlie's trunk.
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Yes.
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Yes.
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Hides in the trunk.
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And then they drive to, it's the Pizza Baby or whatever it's called.
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Yeah, Circus Baby's Pizza.
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Circus Baby, yeah.
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And the one thing I had, and I guess it's a logistics issue, because this is like, what, 1996, I want to say?
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Yeah, something like that, yeah.
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I guess, did Trunks, Trunks, I guess, probably didn't have the safety latch on the inside yet, did they?
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You know what?
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Hold on.
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I'm going to look that up.
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You're going to look that up.
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When did...
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When did that happen?
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Because she makes kind of a big deal about having to hold the trunk shut in such a way, like almost latched, but not latched, so that it wasn't bouncing up and down too much that not Charlie would notice it.
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Yeah.
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But yeah.
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Okay.
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So it was only mandated.
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It's now illegal to not have one.
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And that was started in September of 2001.
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Oh.
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But that was the mandate.
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So it's very likely that the car might not have had one.
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It might not have.
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Yeah.
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It's, it's this is actually really very interesting.
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There've been a lot of people like petitioning for it since the eighties.
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So it finally became law in 2001.
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So yeah, she might, it may have been just that kind of logistical kind of thing.
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Yeah.
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So they, they make it to the pizza place and Jessica,
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kind of follows her inside.
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And that is basically ambushed by not Charlie, who reveals her true self as a horrible circus baby animatronic.
William Afton's Horrific Transformation
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It is.
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It is like,
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The way it's written is pretty terrifying because of the way it's like, it's like, Kiribati recently was like, all right, I know these are robots, but I'm going to describe it like it's the thing.
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Yeah.
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There's some serious body horror stuff in here.
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It's really impressive.
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She really got to come out and have fun with this.
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I don't know what.
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Because it's like there's the there's the circus baby face.
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And then there's like a woman's like a generic woman's face underneath the circus baby face.
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Yeah.
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And at one point it says the circus baby face splits open to reveal another face.
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And then it starts like rotating around.
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Yeah.
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The head.
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And these pedals coming off and they act as a buzz saw, basically.
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Yeah.
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It was like, ugh.
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It's good writing.
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It's good writing.
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And it makes me wonder what was holding her back in the first couple of books.
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Although the second book was way better than the first.
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The second book was way better than the first.
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It kind of had a messy ending compared to where it started.
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But yeah, no, the first one was mess beginning to end.
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Whereas this one is now like, okay, we're getting into some real shit here.
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We got rid of like half the characters basically.
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Yeah.
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And thank God.
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And thank God, by the way, because I do want to point out that in this chapter, we get a real Carlton creeper moment.
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He sees the not Charlie clone and just kind of like ogles her, like just like checking her out.
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And it's like everyone's like, dude, like that's we were here for a reason.
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It's not to check her out.
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And he's just like he exists basically just to be horny.
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at this point.
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He's like, well, then she shouldn't have been that hot.
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That's basically his response.
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Evil robot bitch, man.
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She was asking for it.
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It's really bad.
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Carlton is not a good person.
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Jesus, no.
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He's probably the lowest on the list of the characters.
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Oh, he sucks.
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He sucks.
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At least with Marley, they found something to do with her a little bit.
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Isn't Carlton the one, isn't Carlton the brother of the kid who got killed that they were coming back in the first one?
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Was that what it was?
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Or was it?
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Maybe it was.
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I don't remember.
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I think so.
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It was like, and they never speak of that again.
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No, no.
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Well, that's the thing.
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I feel like somewhere along the way, because if you look at these books side by side, the first one is thick.
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It's like way thicker than the other ones.
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This one's got more pages than the second one, but neither of them are as long as the first one.
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As that first one.
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Yeah.
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And as we complained in our episodes about the first one, nothing happens.
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It's like really long, a bunch of characters, and nothing happens.
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Yeah.
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And they keep going back to the diner or whatever for nothing to happen.
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Nothing happened.
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And it was just so it just it just was so slow and so dull and infuriating at times.
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And so at some point.
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They were like, look, this is what we have to do.
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We have to cut like half of the characters or at very least half of those characters have to have like just like a little on screen time.
00:16:50
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We have to really.
00:16:52
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We're talking and we're doing one plot line.
00:16:54
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It's one single plot line.
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One plot.
00:16:56
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What the fuck's going on with Charlie and her family?
00:16:59
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You know, that's good enough.
00:17:01
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That's good enough.
00:17:03
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We don't need all this extra added shit.
00:17:05
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And, and I have to assume it's, it's Kira Breed Risley who did this because she's the professional writer.
00:17:11
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Yeah.
00:17:12
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And it just, it just, at some point somebody came in and just tightened the shit out of this, but it does have hilarious effects.
00:17:20
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Now, like what we're talking about now, when you're like, didn't this guy lose it, just this guy who was a main character in the first book is this kind of shrimpy minor character, but it's a good thing.
00:17:32
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Like this is, this is, this is the right call.
00:17:35
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Um, so that's chapter eight.
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Uh,
00:17:39
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Jessica.
00:17:39
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So that's chapter seven.
00:17:40
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Jessica eight starts Jessica eight.
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Chapter eight starts with Jessica.
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She has been kidnapped by not Charlie, who gives her this long speech.
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Basically, she's Pinocchio.
00:17:50
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She wants to be a real boy.
00:17:52
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She is jealous of the real Charlie and the attention she gets and is kind of delusional and psychopathic about the whole thing.
00:18:05
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Jessica, like basically openly tries to escape because she notices that that not Charlie isn't like really trying to stop her.
00:18:13
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And when she finally gets herself untied and runs out, she sees why.
00:18:17
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That's because there's a spring trap there who does this wild song and dance number.
00:18:23
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It's like dancing around like a maniac and singing about how you're going to be dead soon.
00:18:28
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Yeah.
00:18:31
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And then a man in the wheelchair, William Afton, appears.
00:18:35
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Our man in the shadows up until this point.
00:18:38
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He is looking rough.
00:18:40
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Looking bad, looking really bad.
00:18:42
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He is he is been kept alive, basically, by robot tech.
00:18:48
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There's this is more body horror.
00:18:50
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You do get descriptions.
00:18:51
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She can literally see veins coiled around different capacitors and shit like that in his chest.
00:18:59
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He has one eye remaining.
00:19:01
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He has like like there's not it is.
00:19:05
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It is extreme Darth Vader posting.
00:19:08
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Yeah, this is it's grim, dark Darth Vader like this.
00:19:11
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Yeah, it's you know, it's it's pretty bleak.
00:19:14
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And just when you think it couldn't get bleaker, we get a lot of talk from between the two of them.
00:19:19
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He's basically.
00:19:21
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doing kind of an early Scooby Doo villain thing, telling him what his diabolical plan has been.
00:19:26
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Right.
00:19:27
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And he is trying to escape death essentially by it's kind of a Theseus ship sort of situation, you know, where he's like, yeah,
00:19:36
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One by one, taking pieces of him, piece by piece, and installing them in this other robot.
00:19:43
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Because basically he has this thesis and be like, there is some sort of animus.
00:19:49
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There's some sort of magic of killing someone within these suits.
00:19:56
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And that is how the suits became possessed in the first place.
00:20:00
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So he's like...
00:20:01
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by my powers of science and my, by vague understanding of, of spirituality and magic, like I need to piece by piece, I'm going to transfer myself into a suit.
00:20:17
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And it's just like terrifying.
00:20:20
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Yeah.
00:20:21
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It's a, it's a horrible, horrible concept.
00:20:23
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And then the not Charlie robot basically says, well, you have to, now you have to watch.
00:20:31
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And Jessica's like, what the fuck do you mean you have to watch?
00:20:33
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And so we see, we start watching as Afton goes under, they put him under and remove his kidney.
00:20:43
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Yeah.
00:20:45
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And hands it to her, hands it to Jessica.
00:20:47
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Like she makes her scream.
00:20:48
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The robot makes her sterilize herself and everything like scrub up and everything.
00:20:52
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And like we get this really tense, long graphic scene of this operation, getting his kidney taken out and transplanted into this waiting machine.
00:21:04
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That's going to be his new.
00:21:05
Speaker
And it's like the innards of this machine are like molten.
00:21:08
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Yeah.
00:21:09
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So it's like putting the kidney into this molten mass of, so it becomes one part and parcel with the machine itself.
00:21:19
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Yeah.
00:21:20
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It all absorbs into this one thing.
00:21:23
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The essence of his kidney is now inside of this.
00:21:27
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It's great.
00:21:28
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It's great.
00:21:29
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It's the best scene in any of these books.
00:21:34
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It's bleak.
00:21:35
Speaker
It's dark.
00:21:36
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It's well-written.
00:21:37
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It's scary.
00:21:38
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I was like, holy shit.
00:21:40
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Are we sure?
00:21:41
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The entire time Jessica, to not lose her mind, is thinking about shoes.
00:21:51
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Yeah.
00:21:52
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She's like, I have to think about anything but this.
00:21:54
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And so she's like, yeah, kitten heels, slingbacks.
00:21:58
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Just like she has to think of anything but what's going on.
00:22:01
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But it's it's so it's because she has to participate.
00:22:05
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And it's like scalpel to, you know, the clamps and any other scalpel.
00:22:12
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It's like.
00:22:14
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It's it's fucking it's fucked up.
00:22:17
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It's really fucked up.
00:22:18
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It's and it's grotesque and gory.
00:22:22
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And it's what we were hoping we would find in our five nights at Freddy's book a whole lot sooner.
00:22:27
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But yeah, again, you know, better late than never.
00:22:32
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The part that gave me the most shivers of like, was when he said, when Afton talks about how my scalp was ripped off my head the first time I removed myself from the spring trap.
00:22:47
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And I was like, yeah.
00:22:51
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It's just this shit he gets into.
00:22:54
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If you get a chance, you really should read it.
00:22:55
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We're not going to, you know, recite it all here, but it's, it's, it's so, it's so freaky.
00:23:03
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And then as it all ends, they basically have a Pulp Fiction moment where they just jab Afton full of adrenaline in the heart.
00:23:11
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And he wakes up and he says, is it done?
00:23:13
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And Jessica just chooses that moment to freak out.
00:23:17
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And, and rightfully so she's earned that.
00:23:21
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And to calm her down, the not Charlie, who has looked like a robot at this point, flashes on the shapeshifter illusion we've been talking about and looks like Charlie and says, you don't have to worry.
00:23:34
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I'm here to protect you and stuff.
00:23:35
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And it's just so weird.
00:23:38
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It's really grotesque and strange.
00:23:41
Speaker
And I love it.
00:23:43
Speaker
It was my favorite chapter we've read so far of this whole series.
00:23:46
Speaker
Of the entire trilogy.
00:23:47
Speaker
Yeah.
00:23:49
Speaker
It's so good.
00:23:51
Speaker
So we cut to chapter nine.
00:23:55
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The whole gang's here and they basically head over to John's, find Charlie there.
00:24:01
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Charlie has kind of woken up for the most part.
00:24:05
Speaker
She is sentient again.
00:24:07
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Yeah.
00:24:09
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And they start discussing what is to be done about this whole thing.
Tech and Tactics Against Animatronics
00:24:13
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And he and he asks her about her previous project that she'd been working on.
00:24:17
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And this is earpieces that were used to make the robots recognize you.
00:24:23
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And he says, could you reverse it?
00:24:26
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And she said, yeah, I guess.
00:24:28
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And so John explains to Carlton what you need to do is you need to go to Jessica's house.
00:24:33
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That's where Charlie's stuff all is.
00:24:36
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And those wires, you just have to switch the wires.
00:24:39
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We need you to get in there, get the earpieces, switch the wires.
00:24:42
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And the idea is that when you turn it on, you'll basically be invisible to the robots.
00:24:47
Speaker
They will be forced to look past you, essentially.
00:24:51
Speaker
It's for anybody who's a old Vampire the Masquerade fan.
00:24:55
Speaker
It's basically like obfuscate powers that the Nosferatu have where you're there and people just they choose not to notice you.
00:25:04
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It's pretty cool.
00:25:05
Speaker
Pretty cool stuff.
00:25:07
Speaker
So Carlton is a fucking idiot.
00:25:10
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I hate Carlton so much.
00:25:12
Speaker
Such a useless piece of shit.
00:25:13
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Yeah.
00:25:16
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He ends up going to Jessica's house and they told her, you know, there'll be a key under the doormat and he gets the key.
00:25:25
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And basically he's in there and he finds the earpieces and he also finds these two robot faces that are just staring at him.
00:25:35
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And he switches the wires and kind of tests them out on them.
00:25:38
Speaker
And it works.
00:25:39
Speaker
It works like they're, they're like trying to, uh,
00:25:43
Speaker
It's clear they're doing pieces like, you know, you guys are all into pronouns, aren't you?
00:25:46
Speaker
Because they're saying he, she, you, you know, and and when he turns on the thing it did, they don't see him.
00:25:55
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It works.
00:25:55
Speaker
Right.
00:25:57
Speaker
And at this point, he hears somebody in the house and it's not Charlie who he knows is not Charlie.
00:26:05
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He's been let in on all this stuff.
00:26:06
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Yeah.
00:26:07
Speaker
But he's still kind of fucked up about it in the sense that he's like, you can tell at first, he's like, oh, it's Charlie.
00:26:14
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Oh, like he needs a minute to kind of let it sink in.
00:26:19
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And once again, we get a super awkward scene where
00:26:23
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Charlie – and they've described her a lot of times as like this new glamorous version of Charlie.
00:26:29
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Basically, not Charlie is what Charlie looks like in the final quarter of the 90s popular kid movie, high school movie.
00:26:39
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They took off the glasses and took out the ponytail and here she is.
00:26:43
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Yeah.
00:26:44
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So she's kind of flirting with him.
00:26:47
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She knows that he's up to something.
00:26:49
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And so she's kind of flirting with him and stuff.
00:26:51
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And so Charlie uses his incredible powers of negging to he basically is like, it's so fucked up.
00:26:58
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He's like.
00:26:59
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He's like, hey, listen, no offense, but I'm just not that into you.
00:27:02
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You know, you're not, you know, maybe lose a few pounds and call me.
00:27:05
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I think he literally says something like that.
00:27:07
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He says lose a few pounds and call.
00:27:09
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Yeah, he does.
00:27:10
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Basically.
00:27:11
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Yeah, it's just it's like, holy Jesus shit.
00:27:14
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And and then, of course, we get the big, you know, robot reveal spikies and and evil.
00:27:21
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Not Charlie there.
00:27:23
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The song Kiss Me by Sixpence None the Richers suddenly just, it just cuts off.
00:27:28
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It's been playing this entire time.
00:27:30
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It's over.
00:27:30
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Kiss me.
00:27:32
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And then it cuts to hold me, thrill me, kiss me, kill me by YouTube as featured on the Batman forever soundtrack.
00:27:38
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And which is an underrated soundtrack, by the way, that was not a great movie, but that soundtrack fucking ruled DJ.
00:27:48
Speaker
The DJ seamlessly translates that transfers that into a kiss from a rose by seal in the Batman returns soundtrack.
00:27:59
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Yeah.
00:28:00
Speaker
Oh, yeah.
00:28:01
Speaker
That's the forever.
00:28:02
Speaker
That's the forever, too.
00:28:03
Speaker
That's in forever?
00:28:04
Speaker
Yeah, that's forever.
00:28:05
Speaker
Oh, damn.
00:28:07
Speaker
I mean, that was the big hit.
00:28:08
Speaker
But, dude, there's like fucking Offspring, PJ Harvey, Sunny Day Real Estate.
00:28:15
Speaker
Wow.
00:28:16
Speaker
Look at this.
00:28:17
Speaker
It's like this great indie rocker kind of lineup.
00:28:21
Speaker
You got Nick Cave on there?
00:28:22
Speaker
Yeah.
00:28:23
Speaker
Yeah, exactly.
00:28:23
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And it's a good Nick Cave song.
00:28:25
Speaker
It's really, really good.
00:28:26
Speaker
That is wild.
00:28:28
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It is a wild soundtrack.
00:28:29
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I grew up listening to it, and I didn't realize, I think until college, how many like-
00:28:36
Speaker
Real like authentic, like rocker groups that that introduced me to.
00:28:40
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I was like, oh, I know cool music because of the Batman Forever soundtrack.
00:28:44
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Yeah.
00:28:45
Speaker
Flaming Lips.
00:28:45
Speaker
You got the you got Method Man on there.
00:28:48
Speaker
Oh, yeah.
00:28:49
Speaker
Yeah.
00:28:49
Speaker
Yeah.
00:28:49
Speaker
That's a good one, too.
00:28:50
Speaker
The Riddler.
00:28:50
Speaker
Yeah.
00:28:51
Speaker
It's a good one.
00:28:52
Speaker
It's really, really good.
00:28:54
Speaker
The Devlins is on there.
00:28:55
Speaker
Yeah.
00:28:55
Speaker
It's all good.
00:28:56
Speaker
It's a very, very good album.
00:28:57
Speaker
Anyway, the Batman Forever soundtrack just.
00:29:01
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It's been playing now.
00:29:02
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Yes, it's been playing.
00:29:03
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It's been playing this entire time.
00:29:05
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And this is when Charlie, not Charlie, Carlton very cleverly turns the switch on the earpiece.
00:29:13
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And what do you know?
00:29:15
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Sixpence, none the richer comes back on.
00:29:17
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And not Charlie.
00:29:19
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Yeah, and not Charlie is very confused.
00:29:21
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And what the fuck?
00:29:22
Speaker
Where did he go?
00:29:23
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It totally works.
00:29:24
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And it gives him the opportunity to escape.
00:29:30
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We cut to John, who basically gets some alone time with Charlie.
00:29:36
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Now, earlier in the book, he has told her unconscious body that he loves her.
00:29:42
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And Charlie basically lets this is this is our cutesy teen book moment.
00:29:47
Speaker
We were required by law to have that in books like these.
00:29:50
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That's fine, because she basically has a moment.
00:29:53
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She's like, I just remember you saying that you love me.
00:29:56
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You know, and he totally blows it like he's like, he's like, well, I love you.
00:30:02
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I love Jessica.
00:30:02
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I love Carlton.
00:30:03
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I love all you guys.
00:30:04
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So I would have said that to anybody in that position is like, uh, he fucking blew it.
00:30:10
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And so she had this dream.
00:30:15
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That spring trap took Sammy, her, her sister, brother, sister, brother, brother, brother.
00:30:25
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They introduced that.
00:30:26
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Now I'm all fucked up.
00:30:28
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Yeah.
00:30:29
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Basically, she's demanding of spring trap.
00:30:32
Speaker
Why you took Sammy and spring trap keeps telling her I took you, which is interesting.
00:30:40
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Interesting.
00:30:41
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Yeah.
00:30:42
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So we get a moment here where John basically gets her up to speed on at Jen, both in the sense that he saw her when everything went down at the end of the second book and like the house collapsed.
00:30:54
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He saw her there and he's not sure why.
00:30:56
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And he also watched her get killed.
00:30:58
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And she kind of guesses she got killed, didn't she?
00:31:01
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Yeah.
00:31:03
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And so Charlie basically says, well, like if she was out in this Silver Reef area, then that means there's more.
00:31:09
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There's more to it out there.
00:31:10
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There's probably more to investigate.
00:31:13
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So they agree that they're going to head on out to Silver Reef.
00:31:17
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Yeah.
00:31:18
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And that's the end of chapter nine.
00:31:21
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Intermission.
00:31:22
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Rachel Lee Cook was in a movie, a spirit Halloween movie.
00:31:28
Speaker
Oh, right.
00:31:29
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Right.
00:31:30
Speaker
Has that come out?
00:31:31
Speaker
I thought I saw it.
00:31:33
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Yeah, I mean, it came out technically two years ago.
00:31:37
Speaker
Oh, maybe I think it's something else then.
00:31:38
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Yeah.
00:31:39
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Christopher Lloyd was in it too.
00:31:42
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Oh, that's good.
00:31:43
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Good for him.
00:31:44
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Holy shit.
00:31:45
Speaker
Rachel Leigh Cook looks so good.
00:31:49
Speaker
She's still frigging gorgeous.
00:31:51
Speaker
She's just a knockout.
00:31:53
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It's just wild.
00:31:54
Speaker
She just doesn't really get much of any like...
00:31:58
Speaker
like looking at her list of recent work.
00:32:01
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It's, uh, she's working just like in, in things that are, you know,
00:32:09
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Not great.
00:32:10
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Not great.
00:32:10
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Yeah.
00:32:11
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I feel like she deserves better than this.
00:32:15
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She was all that.
00:32:16
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She was all that.
00:32:17
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She was totally all that.
00:32:19
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She played all that.
00:32:21
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Yeah.
00:32:21
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And she's all that.
00:32:22
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Yeah.
00:32:23
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Yeah.
00:32:23
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No, that's I didn't know.
00:32:25
Speaker
I thought they were making another movie about that.
00:32:28
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Okay.
00:32:28
Speaker
Oh, there was a he's all that that she was in.
00:32:32
Speaker
He's all that.
00:32:33
Speaker
Yeah.
00:32:34
Speaker
But she does not play the same character.
00:32:36
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True.
00:32:39
Speaker
Oh, God, that came out a few years ago.
00:32:42
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Yeah.
00:32:43
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She plays.
00:32:43
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Oh, she's in it.
00:32:44
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I'll be damned.
00:32:46
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And a bunch of people.
00:32:47
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I do not know who they are.
00:32:51
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This looks bad.
00:32:52
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Yeah.
00:32:53
Speaker
I'm just wondering, how did all those teen movies happen in the mid to late?
00:33:00
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Like from 1995 to like 2000, there was just.
00:33:01
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Yeah.
00:33:05
Speaker
So many teen movies.
00:33:06
Speaker
It's kind of a perfect storm of high school movies, you know?
00:33:09
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Yeah.
00:33:11
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I think I want to say that like Fast Times at Richmond High had a lot to do with that.
00:33:17
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Like it set the scene for a bunch of these things.
00:33:21
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It was just and so they wanted everyone liked that movie, but it was kind of bawdy and.
00:33:26
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And R-rated, if I remember correctly.
00:33:30
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And so they were like, well, we want people liked that, but we want more people to come in for kids to spend the money on the tickets.
00:33:37
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They made a bunch of basically that, but PG-13 instead.
00:33:40
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Yeah.
00:33:42
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Yeah.
00:33:43
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It was a good time for that.
00:33:44
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10 things I hate about you.
00:33:46
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And, and a lot of, there was a lot of Shakespeare ripping off as I recall.
00:33:51
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Right.
00:33:52
Speaker
Yeah.
00:33:54
Speaker
How's it was a weird time to be into movies, but they are still, they, they, they hold up in their own way.
00:34:01
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Can't hardly wait.
00:34:02
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I really liked can't hardly wait.
00:34:04
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Can't hardly wait.
00:34:05
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That one, that one has got some problems.
00:34:07
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Yeah.
00:34:11
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You know, what's funny is we rewatched it recently.
00:34:13
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Yeah.
00:34:14
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And it's just like, oh, okay.
00:34:17
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I mean, can't hardly wait.
00:34:18
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Like, I understand why it was like, it was like, oh yeah, this is like, this is, this is peak 1998.
00:34:27
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This is so 90.
00:34:30
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Every teen actor in it.
00:34:32
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Like, even if they didn't have like Jason Segel's in it, he says like two things and like, yeah, it was a whole, that cast was crazy.
00:34:39
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Jennifer Love Hewitt, Ethan Embry, Seth Green,
00:34:44
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Yeah.
00:34:45
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Special.
00:34:47
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Yeah.
00:34:47
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Peter, Peter Facinelli who would later get that twilight money.
00:34:54
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Oh yeah.
00:34:55
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Yeah.
00:34:56
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Totally.
00:34:56
Speaker
Totally.
00:34:57
Speaker
That was the thing I hadn't, I saw the first twilight movie on a date in, in college, in grad school with a girl we both know.
00:35:06
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And, and I, I, I,
00:35:10
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Remember seeing him and I was like, oh, thank God he's getting work.
00:35:12
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That was the first thing I thought I was just, it was, it was the first thing I'd seen him in since can't hardly wait.
00:35:18
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And he's a good actor.
00:35:20
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So I was like, I'm so glad he's getting work.
00:35:22
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Yeah.
00:35:22
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Good for him.
00:35:24
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Charlie Corsmo.
00:35:25
Speaker
Yeah, of course.
00:35:27
Speaker
Then you've got, then you get, yeah, you've got like Jamie Presley, who's girlfriend number one.
00:35:32
Speaker
You've got all these really amazing.
00:35:35
Speaker
You got a lot of Freddie Rodriguez, Donald Faison, Chris Owen.
00:35:41
Speaker
Like this is a crazy cast.
00:35:43
Speaker
Cleo Duvall.
00:35:44
Speaker
Yeah.
00:35:45
Speaker
This is – Selma Blair?
00:35:47
Speaker
Like, come on, man.
00:35:48
Speaker
Like, this cast is insane.
00:35:49
Speaker
And most of them are hardly in it at all.
00:35:54
Speaker
Jennifer Love Hewitt.
00:35:54
Speaker
We are looking at all my 90s crushes today.
00:35:56
Speaker
That's just what's happening, I guess.
00:35:58
Speaker
Just all of them.
00:35:59
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Yeah.
00:35:59
Speaker
Just outstanding.
00:36:02
Speaker
Ethan Emery looks like a totally different human being.
00:36:05
Speaker
I –
00:36:06
Speaker
Are you looking at the same picture of him where it looks like he's a serial killer or a cult leader?
00:36:11
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He looks like a cult leader.
00:36:12
Speaker
He looks like it is a sex cult.
00:36:17
Speaker
Yes.
00:36:17
Speaker
He's got the big.
00:36:19
Speaker
I hope to God that this is for a movie or something he's working on.
00:36:23
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This is not the look, my friend.
00:36:26
Speaker
Yeah.
00:36:26
Speaker
Yeah.
00:36:27
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This is not the look.
00:36:28
Speaker
Oh, and he was in Empire Records.
00:36:29
Speaker
That was another really good teen movie that I liked.
00:36:33
Speaker
Yeah.
00:36:35
Speaker
And I mean, you have Renee Zellweger in that and Liv Tyler and all these really good people.
00:36:39
Speaker
Why is he doing this?
00:36:41
Speaker
Why is he?
00:36:42
Speaker
Is he just leaning into looking like he?
00:36:46
Speaker
Yeah, this is this is man.
00:36:48
Speaker
Yeah, he looks like he looks like a straight up cult leader.
00:36:51
Speaker
Yeah.
00:36:52
Speaker
Oh, this is, this is bleak.
00:36:54
Speaker
He's wonderful too.
00:36:55
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Cause he was like just so charming and sweet.
00:36:57
Speaker
He had this really kind of like, you want to pinch his cheeks kind of, kind of face, which maybe that's why maybe he just hated that.
00:37:04
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He got sick of that.
00:37:05
Speaker
And he's like, I'm going to look like a child molester instead.
00:37:08
Speaker
Um, Google Ethan Embry guys and tell us if we're wrong, but I don't think, I think we are.
00:37:14
Speaker
Yeah.
00:37:15
Speaker
And, and yeah, if any of the people that we just talked about are in fact canceled.
00:37:23
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Oh, just let us know.
00:37:25
Speaker
Let us know.
00:37:25
Speaker
I don't, we don't keep up with the, the, the cancel.
00:37:29
Speaker
We're too old necessarily.
00:37:32
Speaker
Unless it's somebody that directly affects our lives, you know, and then just,
00:37:37
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It's not that we don't care.
00:37:39
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It's that it's that it's just there's lots of there's a lot going on.
00:37:44
Speaker
I just remember Ethan Embry as as TV player in that thing you do.
00:37:49
Speaker
And he's married to Sonny Mabry.
00:37:50
Speaker
What the fuck?
00:37:52
Speaker
He married her twice.
00:37:55
Speaker
Oh, wow.
00:37:56
Speaker
Sonny Mabry and him got married and they were married for like seven years and then got divorced.
00:38:01
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And three years later, they got back together.
00:38:03
Speaker
Still together.
00:38:05
Speaker
Wilds.
00:38:07
Speaker
Okay.
00:38:08
Speaker
I'm not mad about it.
00:38:10
Speaker
Yeah.
00:38:10
Speaker
Well done, sir.
00:38:11
Speaker
He earned it.
00:38:12
Speaker
He earned it.
00:38:12
Speaker
There you go.
00:38:14
Speaker
He made our childhoods.
00:38:15
Speaker
He was an integral part in that.
00:38:17
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Yeah.
00:38:18
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Sure.
00:38:18
Speaker
Have some Sonny Mabry.
00:38:19
Speaker
Sonny Mabry of Species 3 and Triple X State of the Union.
00:38:24
Speaker
I literally only know her from Vine.
00:38:27
Speaker
She got really popular on Vine back when, back when the internet was made for me and I, and I, and I felt good all the time.
00:38:36
Speaker
Yeah.
00:38:36
Speaker
Which was also around the same time I went on a date to see Twilight in theaters and that, and that was only a slight hiccup in, in the cool cruising USA highway.
00:38:46
Speaker
That was my life.
00:38:49
Speaker
Um,
00:38:51
Speaker
Jesus Christ.
00:38:52
Speaker
Okay.
00:38:52
Speaker
Let's, let's wrap this up.
00:38:53
Speaker
I got one, one chapter.
00:38:54
Speaker
It's very short.
Jessica's Realization of Responsibility
00:38:56
Speaker
Uh, chapter 10, uh, Jessica wakes up in this like, you know, undisclosed location locked in with a bunch of little kids, about seven years old.
00:39:06
Speaker
Um, and these are the children that Afton has kidnapped and all that stuff.
00:39:11
Speaker
And, uh, we do have a wonderful moment.
00:39:13
Speaker
And I thought it was very, I thought this was, this was very relatable.
00:39:17
Speaker
Um, but,
00:39:19
Speaker
They see her.
00:39:20
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She realizes they see her as the adult, which, of course, she is because they're all out of their they're all college age.
00:39:27
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So she's like 1920, something like that.
00:39:29
Speaker
So she is technically the adult.
00:39:31
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Yeah.
00:39:32
Speaker
And as much as like me and Kevin might look at a 19 or 20 year old and go.
00:39:36
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That's a child.
00:39:37
Speaker
That's a child.
00:39:39
Speaker
It is true that she's an adult.
00:39:41
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And she has that moment of like, oh, that's so weird.
00:39:44
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I guess I am the adult here.
00:39:46
Speaker
And I think all of us of a certain age, we have had that moment of like, oh, boy, hopefully it's less traumatic than this one.
00:39:55
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Hopefully it's the first time you don't get.
00:39:57
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Oh, no, everyone's looking for an adult.
00:39:58
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And I am that person.
00:40:00
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Oh no, that is now that's, that is the, yeah.
00:40:03
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Finding out you're an adult is one thing.
00:40:05
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Finding out I'm a, I'm a responsible adult who's being expected to be responsible.
00:40:10
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That's a whole other can of worms that can send you off a cliff.
00:40:14
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That is dangerous shit.
00:40:17
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So she promises to get them out.
00:40:18
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We have a sweet moment of her just kind of, we're going to do this.
00:40:22
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Um,
00:40:24
Speaker
And we cut to Carlton and Marla Marla, who I mentioned, she isn't entirely useless in this.
00:40:30
Speaker
She she's I don't I maybe missed it.
00:40:32
Speaker
I guess she's going to school to be a doctor or nurse or some goddamn thing.
00:40:36
Speaker
And so as Charlie has been recovering, she's been at her side checking her pulse.
00:40:40
Speaker
And it's played for comic effect.
00:40:42
Speaker
Like she's that level of caretaker, but it's kind of endearing.
00:40:47
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but it's just the two of them.
00:40:48
Speaker
Carlton gets Marla up to speed on, uh, on what's going on.
00:40:53
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And, uh, she goes, well, that's kind of crazy because there's this, uh, commercial for the clown pizza place that has been playing all goddamn night long.
00:41:01
Speaker
The one that says, you know, if you dress like a clown, you get free pizza.
00:41:05
Speaker
And, uh, and so it's like, okay, we got to go there.
00:41:07
Speaker
We got to figure out what the hell's going on.
00:41:09
Speaker
Right.
00:41:10
Speaker
And chapter 10 ends with them agreeing to head out there.
00:41:12
Speaker
So, uh, this section, that's what we've got.
00:41:15
Speaker
This section ends with,
00:41:17
Speaker
With Carlton and Marla heading out to the pizza place, Charlie and John heading out to the abandoned ghost town and Jessica stuck in a basement owned by Ethan Embry with a bunch of kidnapped kids.
00:41:35
Speaker
My apologies to Ethan Embry.
00:41:37
Speaker
I'm sure he's a wonderful man.
00:41:39
Speaker
But he looks like the guy, he looks in that photo, he looked like the guy from Far Cry 5.
00:41:45
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what he looks like yes thank you you nailed it you nailed it that was i was trying to put my finger on i said there's a video game reference here and i know it's far cry five it's nailed it nailed it that's exactly what he looks like oh okay so kevin what do you think so far that was that's we're two-thirds of the way through
00:42:04
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I like it so far.
00:42:05
Speaker
I mean, it went from in the first third of the book, it was like, all right, we're going through this weird grief stuff and we're just kind of, we have a lot of trauma and we're dealing with it.
00:42:17
Speaker
And John is dealing with some sort of, you know, paranoia and survivor's guilt perhaps or whatever.
00:42:24
Speaker
Sure.
00:42:25
Speaker
And then it transitions to, no, John was right about everything and it's going to get worse.
00:42:33
Speaker
And the thing is, and the thing is, is I was, I, I had it in my head that I was like, oh, this could be really, this could be very tense if they keep the paranoid aspect of John up and, you know, his friends start being like, I can't, I can't deal with you and stuff.
00:42:47
Speaker
And I was hoping they would play that longer and they didn't, but it still really works.
00:42:51
Speaker
It's still, they still gave us a lot of good shit.
00:42:53
Speaker
Yeah.
00:42:54
Speaker
So yeah, I'm, I'm with you.
00:42:55
Speaker
This is, this is.
00:42:57
Speaker
100%.
00:42:58
Speaker
The other, and what's funny is, I think it's, was it John?
00:43:04
Speaker
At some point in one of the John moments, he's talking about how he sees the real Charlie, and then he sees the fake Charlie not long after.
00:43:14
Speaker
And at that point, he can tell.
00:43:18
Speaker
He's able to tell, specifically, it's like...
00:43:22
Speaker
you know, eyes like slightly too far apart.
00:43:26
Speaker
Like he's able to pick out the little things that are wrong with the illusion now.
00:43:31
Speaker
Yeah.
00:43:31
Speaker
He starts to things that he should have known before.
00:43:33
Speaker
That actually the things that were like triggering his uncanny valleyness basically with Charlie, which is what it is.
00:43:40
Speaker
Oh, yeah.
00:43:41
Speaker
Or he can now define them as like her eyes are the fake Charlie's eyes are slightly too far apart.
00:43:48
Speaker
The mouth is this.
00:43:49
Speaker
The forehead is this.
00:43:51
Speaker
You know, it's an altogether.
00:43:54
Speaker
It's like.
00:43:56
Speaker
If you hadn't seen Charlie, but if you were a guy like him who was hopelessly in love with Charlie.
00:44:02
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Yeah.
00:44:03
Speaker
A little bit more obsessed with that, with her, her face and all that, like remembering her face, that would set you off right away.
00:44:12
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Absolutely.
00:44:13
Speaker
No, that's wrong.
00:44:14
Speaker
When you've grown accustomed to her face, you notice these things.
00:44:17
Speaker
Grown accustomed to her face.
00:44:18
Speaker
Yeah.
00:44:21
Speaker
She almost makes the day begin.
00:44:23
Speaker
I'm sorry.
00:44:25
Speaker
And Rex Harrison.
00:44:27
Speaker
And yeah, no, I I'm with you a hundred percent.
00:44:29
Speaker
I think this is wild.
00:44:33
Speaker
I don't think we have ever, I'm sure we talked about this last episode, but I don't think we've ever encountered a series that like started off so slow and just picked the fuck up in a big way like this.
00:44:48
Speaker
This is, yeah.
00:44:49
Speaker
I love it.
00:44:50
Speaker
It's just crazy.
00:44:51
Speaker
Me too.
00:44:52
Speaker
No, it's a fun, it's a fun, fun, fun change to see.
00:44:58
Speaker
Oh yeah.
00:44:58
Speaker
Oh yeah.
00:44:59
Speaker
Because, because this is such a, I mean, FNAF is such a ubiquitous game series.
00:45:05
Speaker
It's everywhere.
00:45:07
Speaker
It will be for much longer time than anybody is really aware of and or comfortable with.
00:45:14
Speaker
Yeah.
00:45:15
Speaker
Because it's what it came out 10 years ago, first started 10 years ago about.
00:45:20
Speaker
And now it's this whole franchise now.
00:45:23
Speaker
It's like Star Wars goddamn universe.
00:45:26
Speaker
Well, and that's the thing is the movie came out and the movie was relatively low budget.
00:45:33
Speaker
Like they didn't spend a ton on it.
00:45:36
Speaker
And it made a bajillion dollars at the box office.
00:45:39
Speaker
Yeah.
00:45:39
Speaker
So that they're just going to keep rolling with that forever.
00:45:43
Speaker
Oh, yeah.
00:45:43
Speaker
They're going to do it.
00:45:44
Speaker
They know it's just easy cash for the time being.
00:45:47
Speaker
Yeah.
00:45:48
Speaker
That well will dry up eventually.
00:45:50
Speaker
But for now.
00:45:52
Speaker
Yeah.
00:45:53
Speaker
Well, that's the other thing is I think studios are starting to realize that mid low budget horror is actually pretty bankable.
00:46:01
Speaker
When you look at the fact that Terrifier three just won the box office pretty this past weekend.
00:46:08
Speaker
Yep.
00:46:08
Speaker
Yep.
00:46:09
Speaker
It's the third installment of originally super low budget horror flick.
00:46:15
Speaker
And just spanked the shit out of the new Joker movie.
00:46:19
Speaker
Yeah.
00:46:19
Speaker
Like just spanked it hard.
00:46:22
Speaker
Yeah.
00:46:22
Speaker
So if we're getting back to an era of you're going to just see fucking horror movies, not necessarily quote unquote elevated horror.
00:46:35
Speaker
Right, right.
00:46:37
Speaker
I'm not talking about A24, Neon, whatever.
00:46:41
Speaker
I'm talking about fucking Terrifier 3 with wacky, gruesome kills.
00:46:46
Speaker
Yeah.
00:46:47
Speaker
Much in the...
00:46:49
Speaker
Much in the new line, the new line cinema way of making movies where you have like Friday the 13th and Nightmare on Elm Street and all that stuff.
00:47:01
Speaker
And I think, you know, was Art the Clown in the Terrifier series is very much a return to that kind of villain in...
00:47:13
Speaker
a horror setting mindless horror it's just it's not it's not deep it's not there's not a lot of backstory that you have a villain that you're like part of you is still is kind of like rooting for yeah he's somehow got charisma despite all of that yeah it's it's wild he's got that he's got that villain riz
00:47:34
Speaker
You know, and that's, and you're absolutely right though, Kevin, because, because worse things could happen.
00:47:39
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Yeah.
00:47:39
Speaker
Then, then for us to suddenly be flush with like mid budget horror flicks and a bunch of them will suck, but a bunch of them will be really good.
00:47:48
Speaker
Yeah.
00:47:49
Speaker
So yeah, there's a hell of a lot worse that could happen.
00:47:52
Speaker
So yeah.
00:47:52
Speaker
Yeah, that's that's pretty cool.
00:47:54
Speaker
So so it's nice to see, especially with, you know, the backstory.
00:47:59
Speaker
I became obsessed for a little while.
00:48:01
Speaker
I'm not a big FNAF player, but I became obsessed for a little while with all the MatPat videos and the digging and all that.
00:48:07
Speaker
I loved that shit before it got completely out of pocket and for a while.
00:48:11
Speaker
But I really loved it for a little while there.
00:48:14
Speaker
And I was like, this is if this is true, if this is, you know,
00:48:19
Speaker
what the original intent for the game was then this is fascinating because i do love that stuff i love that hidden stuff in games um so if you're going to have a novel i'm glad that it's it's a novel series i'm glad that it's it's amping up uh inequality even if it's right at the tail end yeah yeah exactly
00:48:39
Speaker
Okay, great.
00:48:40
Speaker
Well, hopefully that will remain all the way through.
00:48:44
Speaker
We'll see.
00:48:44
Speaker
Next episode, we're going to find out how it all gets wrapped up.
00:48:49
Speaker
But in the meantime, Kevin, I just have one question left to ask you.
00:48:55
Speaker
What are you playing?
00:48:57
Speaker
Okay, so I am playing the Silent Hill 2 remake.
00:49:03
Speaker
Okay, here we go.
00:49:04
Speaker
Thoughts and feelings time.
00:49:06
Speaker
So I played the Silent Hill 2 Enhanced Edition about a month or so ago.
00:49:14
Speaker
And it's basically a modded version of the PC release of Silent Hill 2 that brings it up to 4K, 60 frames per second.
00:49:26
Speaker
up res is all the textures, looks gorgeous, runs gorgeous.
00:49:29
Speaker
You recommended it to me on the show.
00:49:31
Speaker
Yeah.
00:49:31
Speaker
Go if you have unless you have like a copy of Silent Hill 2 laying around, that's like the original version and you want to play that on a crunchy CRT screen just for the full original effect.
00:49:44
Speaker
But most of you are not going to have that.
00:49:45
Speaker
So go ahead and find the Silent Hill 2 Enhanced Edition.
00:49:49
Speaker
My Abandoned Ware is the place to go and find that.
00:49:52
Speaker
And they have, I think they have Silent Hill 1 and 3 there as well that you can grab and download and install.
00:50:02
Speaker
There's no enhanced editions of those, but at least you can get them.
00:50:07
Speaker
Anyway, so...
00:50:09
Speaker
I played Silent Hill 2 Enhanced Edition because I had never played Silent Hill 2 in my prior gaming life.
00:50:20
Speaker
I was very much into Resident Evil.
00:50:23
Speaker
I thought Silent Hill looked a little like, eh, I don't know.
00:50:27
Speaker
When I was a kid, it just never really spoke to me.
00:50:30
Speaker
I was like, ah, that's trying to be real scary.
00:50:33
Speaker
I want Resident Evil scary.
00:50:35
Speaker
Yeah.
00:50:36
Speaker
Yeah.
00:50:37
Speaker
So Silent Hill 2, I think is a very good game.
00:50:43
Speaker
I'm repeating a lot of what I said.
00:50:45
Speaker
Did I lose my camera?
00:50:50
Speaker
Basically, I'm repeating a lot of what I said last time I talked about it, but just to kind of give a refresher.
00:50:56
Speaker
All right.
00:50:56
Speaker
So I felt like it's good.
00:50:59
Speaker
There's things that I didn't like about it necessarily, but it's a good game.
00:51:03
Speaker
I understand why people are obsessed with it.
00:51:06
Speaker
Silent Hill 2 remake is very faithful in certain ways.
00:51:11
Speaker
And I think everybody initially, when it was announced that this was going to be remade, people were like, hey, this is just going to be Bloober Team's time to fail.
00:51:21
Speaker
They're going to fail so hard on this.
00:51:24
Speaker
And I can safely say they did not fail to do justice to Silent Hill 2.
00:51:32
Speaker
Yeah.
00:51:34
Speaker
I don't think you can say that they failed to recapture Silent Hill 2.
00:51:40
Speaker
Now, I know there's going to be some Silent Hill 2 aficionados who are going to look at the remake and be like, okay, well, they didn't have this line read this way and it changed this meaning and so-and-so's character.
00:51:55
Speaker
That's fine.
00:51:56
Speaker
That's a valid opinion.
00:51:58
Speaker
I don't share it, but whatever.
00:52:01
Speaker
But that being said, I think they did some things that I wouldn't have done necessarily were I in charge, hypothetically in charge of the remake.
00:52:11
Speaker
So my standard for remakes is...
00:52:16
Speaker
My gold tier standard for remaking a classic is like Resident Evil 2 remake.
00:52:22
Speaker
I think that is one of the best.
00:52:27
Speaker
It is a stellar game.
00:52:30
Speaker
Love it.
00:52:31
Speaker
I might go and play it again this year.
00:52:34
Speaker
I was just going to say, you repeating it, its name, just saying the name to you three times.
00:52:41
Speaker
Yeah, and it appears, and suddenly it's downloading on Steam.
00:52:45
Speaker
Oh no!
00:52:48
Speaker
My PC is haunted.
00:52:50
Speaker
Is it?
00:52:52
Speaker
Um, yeah.
00:52:53
Speaker
And like, that is my top tier best, best of the best in terms of a remake.
00:53:00
Speaker
And I look at what the Resident Evil 2 remake did is it fleshed out things that needed more time, um, and didn't flesh out things that necessarily did not.
00:53:13
Speaker
So like, uh, Marvin, um,
00:53:17
Speaker
Oh, yeah.
00:53:18
Speaker
The officer who helps you gets a lot more in the remake than he did in the original game where he's just like, you know, you find his dead body and then he turns into a zombie or you find him dying and he turns into a zombie.
00:53:33
Speaker
In this, he's like an actual helpful character who kind of sets you on your path to getting out.
00:53:41
Speaker
And it actually, and it added a bunch of touching moments that weren't in the original game, like the gun store owner, Robert Kendo, probably one of the, that was a moment that was just like, woof.
00:53:54
Speaker
It was lovely.
00:53:55
Speaker
It was lovely.
00:53:56
Speaker
Yeah.
00:53:57
Speaker
Yeah.
00:53:58
Speaker
So yeah, that's, that's all I'll say about that.
00:54:02
Speaker
So Silent Hill 2 remake does a bunch of things that I don't agree with in terms of lengthening.
00:54:09
Speaker
So yeah,
00:54:11
Speaker
The opening of Silent Hill 2 is very tight and it doesn't take you very long to get to a character named Maria who is very integral to the plot.
00:54:22
Speaker
It doesn't take... But from starting it up to meeting her is not like... It's not an eternity to get there, right?
00:54:31
Speaker
In the remake...
00:54:33
Speaker
it feels long.
00:54:35
Speaker
Like it feels like a long time before you actually get to Maria.
00:54:42
Speaker
And that's because there's just been segments that have been stretched and extended longer than they ever were in the original.
00:54:52
Speaker
And while I don't like it at the beginning, there's like there was a certain part where it clicks with me.
00:54:59
Speaker
Like, OK, yeah, I'm fine.
00:55:01
Speaker
I'm having fun here.
00:55:01
Speaker
This is good.
00:55:02
Speaker
And then there will be like a part later where it just unclicks and be like.
00:55:08
Speaker
So there's just like parts of the game where it's like this part was fine to extend.
00:55:13
Speaker
This part, which you also extended should not have been.
00:55:18
Speaker
Right, right.
00:55:20
Speaker
It's pretty much they just added, you know, they just added 50% to every single section of the game, regardless of whether it needed it or not.
00:55:32
Speaker
Okay.
00:55:32
Speaker
So more for the sake of it being more.
00:55:34
Speaker
Yeah.
00:55:35
Speaker
And so it's going to, you know, I'll probably put in 14, 15 hours to beat the game when the original took seven to.
00:55:44
Speaker
So it ends up being like a double in length.
00:55:47
Speaker
Just about.
00:55:47
Speaker
They got to justify their $70 price tag.
00:55:50
Speaker
Yeah, exactly.
00:55:51
Speaker
Exactly.
00:55:52
Speaker
I'm actually going to be doing, recording a podcast and we're going to drop it into the Pixelit feed when it's done.
00:56:00
Speaker
Everybody will get a copy of it to drop in their feed, but I'm going to be recording a podcast with James, aka Hot Cider, Pim from Pim's Crypt, and Sputnik 34.
00:56:12
Speaker
We're all going to discuss and break down our opinions on the Silent Hill 2 remake.
00:56:18
Speaker
And we have a variety of takes from from just absolutely loving it and and adoring it on Sputnik Sputnik side to hating it thoroughly.
00:56:34
Speaker
Then that's that's going to be your hot cider.
00:56:37
Speaker
So that is a hell of a lineup.
00:56:39
Speaker
That's going to be that's going to be excellent.
00:56:41
Speaker
That is such a good lineup of fucking people.
00:56:43
Speaker
So yeah, it'll be on the Pixlet feed.
00:56:46
Speaker
It's also going to be, you know, if you subscribe to Bullet Time, I think James is going to publish it to Bullet Time and Pym will probably put it on their channel.
00:56:55
Speaker
So, you know, keep an eye out for that whenever we get a chance to sit down and record.
00:57:03
Speaker
But that's what I've been playing, Phil.
00:57:06
Speaker
What have you been playing?
00:57:08
Speaker
Well, as I mentioned, I've been out of town.
00:57:13
Speaker
But I did manage to get some good gaming in.
00:57:15
Speaker
I went ahead and I took my Switch on the road with me.
00:57:20
Speaker
It's my favorite.
00:57:21
Speaker
I think I've mentioned on the show before, I've literally never plugged my Switch into my television.
00:57:25
Speaker
I have only ever used it as a handheld.
00:57:28
Speaker
And that is just fine by me.
00:57:31
Speaker
And so I got to play Conscript.
00:57:35
Speaker
I went ahead and bought Conscript.
00:57:36
Speaker
We've talked about this game before.
00:57:39
Speaker
And kind of a Resident Evil style World War One horror action puzzle game where you keep expecting zombies or something to show up.
00:57:49
Speaker
But the horror is just the war.
00:57:51
Speaker
And that is really impressive shit.
00:57:54
Speaker
A lot of backtracking, a lot of little puzzles and all that kind of thing.
00:57:57
Speaker
And I had a blast because it's there's something about it that's very.
00:58:03
Speaker
I guess you could say this of any like Resident Evil style game.
00:58:07
Speaker
You can do it in little chunks.
00:58:09
Speaker
So I did it 45 minutes at the New York area, the LaGuardia, you know, and right.
00:58:15
Speaker
You know, half an hour at the hotel, you know, whatever.
00:58:17
Speaker
And it just keeps your attention.
00:58:20
Speaker
It's really interesting.
00:58:21
Speaker
This could I could absolutely see it being in game of the year territory.
00:58:26
Speaker
It's just it's it's.
00:58:28
Speaker
the Resident Evil formula.
00:58:29
Speaker
And we've both talked about this game, so I'm not going to belabor it.
00:58:33
Speaker
Sure.
00:58:33
Speaker
But it's done very well.
00:58:35
Speaker
And plus, I love World War One stuff.
00:58:37
Speaker
So that's.
00:58:38
Speaker
Yeah, of course.
00:58:40
Speaker
Then I when I got home, I downloaded.
00:58:43
Speaker
By the way, sorry to interrupt.
00:58:44
Speaker
Horror set during World War One is.
00:58:48
Speaker
Oh, it's I I've seen it several times over the last couple of years, and I still say it's untapped.
00:58:57
Speaker
It is.
00:58:58
Speaker
There needs to be more of it.
00:58:59
Speaker
There needs to be more of it.
00:59:00
Speaker
And one of my favorite Warhammer 40K stories is basically could be a World War One story.
00:59:10
Speaker
It's one of my favorite horror stories from the 40K universe where it just it takes place entirely in a trench.
00:59:17
Speaker
Yeah, that shit is awesome.
00:59:20
Speaker
I love it.
00:59:22
Speaker
It's brilliant.
00:59:23
Speaker
I agree.
00:59:23
Speaker
It's totally on tap territory.
00:59:25
Speaker
We need more of that stuff.
00:59:26
Speaker
Yeah.
00:59:27
Speaker
And so I was so obviously it was very, very happy to see, you know, conscript being I was actually extra happy to see conscript on the switch.
00:59:38
Speaker
Right.
00:59:39
Speaker
There was something about it was like, oh, I'm going to play the shit out of this on my switch.
00:59:43
Speaker
This is going to be great.
00:59:44
Speaker
Yeah.
00:59:45
Speaker
And so far, so good.
00:59:48
Speaker
I downloaded the demo for Be Crowned.
00:59:52
Speaker
I think it was Pym.
00:59:54
Speaker
Pym may have recommended this one on the bird machine.
01:00:00
Speaker
And yeah, and this is basically
01:00:06
Speaker
a Resident Evil Silent Hill kind of mashup.
01:00:10
Speaker
It's got very Silent Hill vibes with, you know, very Resident Evil gaming style.
01:00:17
Speaker
But it's also got a biblical vibe to it.
01:00:21
Speaker
Sure.
01:00:22
Speaker
You've got like the multi eyed angels of Sarah Finn and stuff like that, and you're still dealing with, you know, you know, undead looking kind of creatures.
01:00:33
Speaker
But it's got this strange biblical bent to it, which I think is very, very interesting because I can't believe it took that long.
01:00:41
Speaker
Yeah.
01:00:41
Speaker
And there are there are games out there who have done that with a biblical ship, but like as many kind of like the World War one thing, not as many as I'd expect.
01:00:48
Speaker
Right.
01:00:50
Speaker
It's interesting.
01:00:51
Speaker
It's got kind of PS2 visuals to it.
01:00:55
Speaker
It's got that fixed camera thing you get from the old Resident Evil games.
01:01:01
Speaker
The fixed camera kind of shifts itself, though, which is weird.
01:01:05
Speaker
Like you get a fixed camera for one section, and then if you come into...
01:01:11
Speaker
the same area from a different angle, it'll kind of slide around a little bit.
01:01:15
Speaker
So you're not, you know, whereas the old school ones, it was like literally this is how you see the room, period.
01:01:20
Speaker
Yeah.
01:01:21
Speaker
Yeah.
01:01:23
Speaker
The the the shift, it's got kind of, you know, some indie jank.
01:01:29
Speaker
where, for example, the controls, it's that thing where you're going one direction in one scene and you're running from monsters and I'm holding right to run away from the monsters and I end up in a hallway and I'm running down now and it gives you doesn't give you quite a lot of recovery time to suddenly pull it.
01:01:48
Speaker
So suddenly I'm running back at the mind.
01:01:49
Speaker
It's like, shit, though, that's not what I want.
01:01:52
Speaker
It's it's it's so it's got some indie jank, which.
01:01:55
Speaker
Yeah.
01:01:56
Speaker
It's not a that's not a, you know, a deal breaker.
01:01:59
Speaker
Sure.
01:02:00
Speaker
Very interesting stuff.
01:02:01
Speaker
I highly recommend people at least download the demo and give it a look.
01:02:05
Speaker
I don't know if I'm going to be able to get to it this year, but I'm very intrigued.
01:02:11
Speaker
Very interesting idea.
01:02:12
Speaker
You're in this it's got a lot of standard trophy shit like you're in this old mental institution.
01:02:18
Speaker
You know, there's there's there were some kind of Outlast vibes in there, too.
01:02:22
Speaker
Sure.
01:02:23
Speaker
And so it's got some interesting stuff.
01:02:26
Speaker
It seems to be stealing from the right places.
01:02:29
Speaker
And I and I I'm definitely intrigued enough to play more of it somewhere.
01:02:34
Speaker
And it's.
01:02:35
Speaker
Just for those of you listening, it's technically part of the Next Fest demos.
01:02:44
Speaker
So Steam Next Fest is happening starting today as we're recording it.
01:02:49
Speaker
So the 14th to the 21st.
01:02:52
Speaker
So the Next Fest will have been going for two days when this episode airs.
01:02:57
Speaker
Go ahead, do yourself a favor and check out Steam Next Fest because there's often a lot of things like,
01:03:04
Speaker
Games like Ballotro were on like NexFest last year where you could play that first demo or one of the early demos of that.
01:03:16
Speaker
Games that are big this year
01:03:19
Speaker
We're in the demos stages last year.
01:03:23
Speaker
So definitely check out Steam Next Fest, especially if you're looking, trying to figure out, OK, what's my what's going to be a 2025 game?
01:03:31
Speaker
Like there's this one that just popped up called New Arc, New Arc Line, which I clicked on it and it's a RPG.
01:03:39
Speaker
a party based story rich RPG single player.
01:03:44
Speaker
It's a steampunk world and it says similar to other games you've played Baldur's Gate 3 99 hours on record.
01:03:50
Speaker
Rogue Trader 117 hours on record.
01:03:54
Speaker
So I was like, hmm.
01:03:55
Speaker
Intriguing.
01:03:56
Speaker
Intriguing.
01:03:57
Speaker
Going to download the demo for that.
01:03:58
Speaker
Very intriguing.
01:03:59
Speaker
Yeah.
01:04:00
Speaker
The demo itself is 13 gigs.
01:04:03
Speaker
Oh, Jesus Christ.
01:04:05
Speaker
That's a beefy demo.
01:04:06
Speaker
New arc line.
01:04:08
Speaker
I'm going to look at that one.
01:04:10
Speaker
Yeah.
01:04:10
Speaker
And that's the thing.
01:04:11
Speaker
That's that's why I've been doing more of these demos and everything like that.
01:04:15
Speaker
It just there's no.
01:04:18
Speaker
There's nothing to lose and you're going to learn a lot and maybe find some hidden gem or be ahead of the game in terms of like the next big thing, you know, whatever.
01:04:29
Speaker
And frankly, indie games rule.
01:04:33
Speaker
Indie games are always better.
01:04:35
Speaker
in my experience for the most part.
01:04:38
Speaker
Jesus, that is a huge demo.
01:04:41
Speaker
Jesus Christ.
01:04:42
Speaker
Yeah, it's a big demo.
01:04:43
Speaker
I get recommended just the weirdest.
01:04:46
Speaker
I got to just put on the filter for turning off the hentai games because- How do you do that?
01:04:53
Speaker
Could you please- I don't know.
01:04:54
Speaker
You've helped me with-
01:04:56
Speaker
If you find out, please tell me.
01:04:57
Speaker
I'm sick of it.
01:04:58
Speaker
I don't do Phil plays a porno anymore.
01:05:01
Speaker
I don't need these games.
01:05:03
Speaker
You're like, I am an adult now.
01:05:05
Speaker
I was only in my 30s when I did that series.
01:05:11
Speaker
It's true.
01:05:12
Speaker
It's true.
01:05:14
Speaker
No, I just turned 42.
01:05:16
Speaker
It's like, let me go and search for them.
01:05:20
Speaker
Just don't drop them in the recommended for you section.
01:05:23
Speaker
I don't see how it just, yeah, just drop out of nowhere.
01:05:28
Speaker
There's a game Spirit Valley.
01:05:31
Speaker
You're seeing this game because you have set your preferences to allow this content.
01:05:34
Speaker
This game is marked adults only.
01:05:35
Speaker
But adults only could mean also violent games.
01:05:39
Speaker
So that's the problem.
01:05:40
Speaker
I got to figure out where the... Anyway, this game Spirit Valley popped up and it's like, oh, it's Stardew Valley, but porn.
01:05:48
Speaker
But porn.
01:05:49
Speaker
Literally.
01:05:49
Speaker
Which...
01:05:50
Speaker
Look, that's fascinating.
01:05:52
Speaker
I appreciate that you gave that a shot, but Jesus Christ, it's there's so much porn game out there.
01:05:57
Speaker
It's just it never ends.
01:05:59
Speaker
It never ends.
01:06:01
Speaker
Never ends.
01:06:02
Speaker
And I'm not putting down the idea that if you dig those look, Honey Pop was my game of the one of my games of the year that the year it came out.
01:06:09
Speaker
I love dirty shit.
01:06:11
Speaker
Don't get me wrong, but it's just it goes on and on and on.
01:06:15
Speaker
It's just never ending.
01:06:17
Speaker
Never ending.
01:06:18
Speaker
Never ending.
01:06:20
Speaker
But I have started playing one last game and I think you'll be particularly interested in this one, Kevin.
01:06:27
Speaker
I finally got around to playing Homebody.
01:06:30
Speaker
Oh.
01:06:30
Speaker
Okay.
01:06:31
Speaker
How are you feeling so far?
01:06:34
Speaker
Really enjoying it.
01:06:35
Speaker
It is probably one of the harder survival horror games ever played.
01:06:40
Speaker
And that's because the puzzles are...
01:06:44
Speaker
It's like all these visual puzzles that I've always been bad at.
01:06:47
Speaker
So I'm cheating a little bit just to get through it.
01:06:50
Speaker
But it's a fun.
01:06:50
Speaker
It's essentially a roguelike, a roguelike survival horror game, which is a fun game.
01:06:53
Speaker
It's a fun game.
01:06:54
Speaker
It's a fun game.
01:07:11
Speaker
You don't really see that, you know, it's interesting.
01:07:13
Speaker
Sort of.
01:07:13
Speaker
Sort of, sort of.
01:07:15
Speaker
Yeah, kinda-ish.
01:07:17
Speaker
It's weird.
01:07:18
Speaker
It's like a, it's very much like if you consider a game like Clock Tower or it's a, cause it's also like point and click adventure.
01:07:35
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So it's, yeah.
01:07:39
Speaker
It's interesting.
01:07:39
Speaker
It's a very interesting combination of genres, and it deals with like the interesting dialogue options where you try to say something and you can't really say it.
01:07:57
Speaker
It's got amazing.
01:07:59
Speaker
really interesting stuff.
01:08:00
Speaker
It plays with a lot of like anxiety and depression stuff.
01:08:03
Speaker
A lot of themes with anxiety and depression where it's like you have something you want to say and then you click on it and your character just says
01:08:13
Speaker
Not that it's just.
01:08:14
Speaker
Yeah.
01:08:16
Speaker
Yeah.
01:08:16
Speaker
Some more placating or safe thing.
01:08:18
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Yeah.
01:08:18
Speaker
Yeah.
01:08:19
Speaker
Yeah.
01:08:20
Speaker
It's it's interesting.
01:08:21
Speaker
The it's got amazing atmosphere.
01:08:24
Speaker
I really, really love the visuals of it.
01:08:28
Speaker
The villain is creepy as shit.
01:08:30
Speaker
Yes.
01:08:32
Speaker
Very, very creepy villain.
01:08:33
Speaker
And the sound, the sound design is probably its MVP.
01:08:38
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If you ask me, it doesn't have much in the way of music, but there's just this concept because basically you're in a cabin in the woods.
01:08:45
Speaker
Right.
01:08:46
Speaker
You know, like that's I'm not going to go too deep into it because you really ought to just play it.
01:08:50
Speaker
But you're in a cabin in the woods and so much of the time that you're there is spent just hearing crickets.
01:08:59
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outside and it's just this eerie tense kind of level of fear that builds up when you're waiting for a certain time to hit because you're playing it through a certain space of time.
01:09:15
Speaker
Right.
01:09:15
Speaker
And, you know, so at seven o'clock, certain things happen at nine o'clock, certain things happen, et cetera.
01:09:20
Speaker
And
01:09:21
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And when you're waiting for that, the tension of just waiting because you can't speed it up, you can't slow it down.
01:09:26
Speaker
And there's no there's not even any creepy ambient music.
01:09:31
Speaker
It's just fucking crickets.
01:09:33
Speaker
And then you hear the creaking floorboards.
01:09:35
Speaker
Yeah.
01:09:35
Speaker
Oh, then you hear this guy and you just hear like the sound of his knife as he kills other people.
01:09:42
Speaker
And you just hear shing.
01:09:45
Speaker
Off in the distance.
01:09:46
Speaker
It's like, it's good stuff, man.
01:09:49
Speaker
It is good stuff.
01:09:51
Speaker
So I, that's another one I recommend for people.
01:09:54
Speaker
I'm glad I finally got to play it.
01:09:57
Speaker
Yeah.
01:09:58
Speaker
Loved that one.
01:09:59
Speaker
I haven't finished it yet, but I'm, I'm really impressed with it.
01:10:03
Speaker
I'm really impressed with the puzzles.
01:10:04
Speaker
It gets it gets a lot weirder as as it goes.
01:10:07
Speaker
It weirdness just keeps like dialing up as it continues.
01:10:12
Speaker
I've gone through like three playthroughs so far.
01:10:16
Speaker
Sure.
01:10:17
Speaker
So I haven't gotten too deep into it, but it's got it.
01:10:20
Speaker
very unique very clever if any if you like survival horror uh the worst you can do is put it on your wish list and wait for a sale or something this is not expensive what 10 bucks by itself it's cheap and i and i think i got it on one of the major sales for like three or four bucks right so it's it's worth a look um i yeah really enjoyed it so homebody that's uh so that's that's what i've been good good
01:10:45
Speaker
All right.
01:10:46
Speaker
And that's it.
01:10:47
Speaker
That's all you got on what you've been playing.
01:10:51
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That's all I got on what I've been playing.
01:10:54
Speaker
So that means it's time for the end of the episode.
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