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Episode 22 - Mothman Travels and Grave Encounters: The Metarie, New Orleans
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Nym and Nylene share some of their spooky travels and the dark locations they have been. Nylene visited the Mothman Museum in Point Pleasant, WV and Nym shares the history of The Metarie cemetery of New Orleans, LA.
Enter the Nightmare for show notes, transcripts, sources, and more!
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Podcast Introduction: Nightmare Cottage
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Welcome to Nim and Nyleen's Nightmare Cottage, where we discuss dark locations, sinister media, and other tales of the macabre. I'm Nim. And I'm Nyleen. Let the nightmare begin.
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Humorous Misstep: Google Search Mishap
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into the nightmare if you dare um i can safely say that i am not interested in that particular story an interspecies bestiality not was it bestiality if they're i think it's just interspecies interspecies okay yeah it's like bestiality is human and animal right i I assume that that is the definition. Are you going look it up Yeah, I'm going to Google. All right, everybody stand by for the definition for bestiality. Listen, my FBI agent has to be real concerned with the things I've been looking up.
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Oh, yeah. I forgot what I looked up on my work laptop the other day, but I did it in front of my boss because we were talking about something and I was like, what is this? Bestiality.
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Oh, porn immediately came up. You should say definition of. ah Definition. My bad. That's not good. Maybe safe search that one next time.
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Yeah, that's not bad. Next time. Okay. Next time I look up bestiality. So it's apparently zoophilia is the correct term for it. And it's a paraphilia term.
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in which a person experiences a fixation ah sexually on non-human animals. So, yeah. Bestiality does refer to cross-species sexual activity between humans and non-animals.
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Non-human animals. Oh, also non-animals. Sorry. Is that like a robot? What are we... Welcome to Nightmare Cottage. Yeah. I don't know why just given you that definition.
Road Trip Through Scenic States
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Moving on my trip was great.
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I decided to drive... It was a, I think it was like a 21 hour drive is what it was to where we were going in Pennsylvania. But we took it in three days. And then on the way back, we drove 25 hours straight. That was crazy.
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But yeah, on the way there, it was beautiful. We we drove through, i mean Arkansas. I've driven through it a few times. It's beautiful. But like, feels like you're stuck in like a time loop.
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Because like the highway looks the same the entire way through. Arkansas. Is it totally flat? It's like flat and then it has like the two lanes on each side on each side going each way and the guardrails and then like just trees and it's just that and trees the entire way and it's just like there's no you know like I don't know i'm I'm very much like a so ah landmark type person. Sure.
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Like you know like oh I've seen that McDonald's I know where I am. like Right. I passed the anti-porn Christian billboard. Exactly. and my god the billboards.
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The billboards that we saw. Some of these, like, if you're ah Christian, great. Like, I'm not saying anything bad about that. Like, but some of these...
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Some of these billboards and the amount of metal crosses that we would just see like glowing red or something like that. And like signs that say repent, call this number. And it's like, oh my goodness. Like I'm i'm more scared of you than anything. But yeah.
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Regardless, um yeah, we drove through Arkansas, Tennessee. We spent a long time through Tennessee. And then we stopped and was that West Virginia? We stopped in West Virginia, stayed in this little town. it was a beautiful little town in West Virginia. um it was a college town.
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But it was like, right, we had like a view of the Ohio River, which I mean, everyone's like, yeah, it's just like a big money river, but it's beautiful. Yeah. And I've never seen, i'm I'm really big on like geological things.
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But I've never seen ah floodgates before. There were floodgates surrounding the entirety of the Ohio River so that if it ever floods, they can just like close it and that area will fill instead of it pulling into the town. But like, it looked so serious. Like it was like, it reminded me of trying to go on to a military base.
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Oh, yeah. So we stayed in Huntington, West Virginia, which was... It was, mean, was a cool little town. It had like, just like this little square with like this fountain and like all these places. It had this old arcade. We were so freaking tired. We were going to go to this arcade, but we were so tired and it looked so cool. And I'm so mad because it was a retro arcade. And I thought you would be so excited if you saw that, but.
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We did it. um But yeah, and then we ended up in Mechanicsburg and it was, i don't know, it was great. It was really, really good. had a lot of fun with it. Got to see a lot of the Appalachian Mountains. That's cool. So are the vibes like they say?
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Yeah, um I will say they are. i mean, i I want to say I've seen mountains like that driving through California because I swear like I have, but These are like, these are another beast. it's It's something different. It's just, it feels more dense. It feels more. They're much, much, much, much much much older than the mountains on the West Coast. Oh, really?
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Yes. And so they've been beaten down by weather and time and... They've been marinating and... And they're just full of ancient. Full of ancient. Yes.
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that's I like that. So, yeah, they're... and i would I've never seen them in person. I would love to. Yes. No. Like, definitely. I would say, like, I wish that we had more time to, like, actually get on a trail, but my knee's been messed up anyways and...
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He's bashy. He's only four. Like he did amazing on this trip. Like he had so much fun being in the car. I will say I have never been to so many rest stops that were so beautiful and clean. Nice. Like I'm used to like, I don't know. I don't know about apparently the North does it different or the Northeast because in the South, man, those rest stops are nasty.
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i will say there was one rest stop though in particular That we stopped at. And there were some weird
Creepy Rest Stop Encounter
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vibes. There were a lot of people there. a lot of people. And we had gone to the bathroom.
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Sebastian refused. Because he said he he was just scared. He said he was feeling scared. And we were like that's weird. Because he's been fine using public bathrooms for a minute. Whatever. so i was like maybe he just needs to stretch his legs. So we decided to like just walk.
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Kind of like around it. And it's not very far. It's like literally just like a little little circle. And so we kind of started walking around. And like I noticed. Behind the this is this is how I'm going to get murdered, by the way.
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Behind the um the rest stop, there was a car backed in and a big pile of dirt and tarp and a shovel.
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And I was like, oh, that doesn't look good. And Ace was like, hmm, that's a murder. And I was like, do we say something?
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and Ace was like, they said it's patrolled. I think we should just go. And I was like, okay. And so I'm like, Bashi, let's go. And we're like walking, like kind of leaving. And there is this guy.
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that is just staring, like looking at me. And I wasn't sure if he was, it was one of those situations where I'm like, is he concerned for me? Or is he concerned about me? Like, it was one of those where I couldn't really tell.
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Sebastian was very scared. Bashi, he was like, pick me up, pick me up, pick me up. So I picked him up. And this guy is like, you know, just staring me down. And I'm like, maybe he's worried that I'm like, because there's a lot of like,
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you know, sex trafficking, are you okay? Signs everywhere. And so I was like, just gave him a little smile and a nod, you know, that everything's good. And he just like stared at us the whole time. He just looked so concerned.
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And so now like, of course, like the, the storyteller in me has decided that what we walked up on was someone burying someone. He was the lookout. Notice that we were back there was like, what did you see?
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and I was just like, good day, sir. And left. So um i think he was in on it the whole time. So if you hear this, sir, I'm sorry. And we won't tell anyone. and I mean, kind of just told everyone.
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But I don't remember what you look like. Right. Or anything. Please don't find me. Yeah. the The whole just driving through the mountains. Oh, and I don't know if you ever. Have you driven through a mountain ever?
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Like through it. Like that have that's had it blasted through the middle. Yes. Oh my God. I didn't even know that existed. i had no idea. Like I took some pictures because it was like the craziest thing. I was like, what is this?
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What are we going to?
Mountains, Tunnels, and Views
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And it like, there was just a sign that said, take off your sunglasses, like by law, by state law, take off all, take off your sunglasses or something like that. And I was like, that's weird. Cause I remember seeing that in the mountains in California driving down, but um looking in the Appalachian area and seeing that, I was like, where, what are we doing? And then like, literally,
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just like tunnels and tunnels and tunnels going through this mountain. And there was one, like there were a bunch of them and they're named different things, but it was really, really cool. But there was one where like we were driving through and about halfway through, there's just water coming down.
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Like there's like a hole or something. And I was like, see, I don't like that because that's in the middle of mountain and it kind of feels like a good way to die. Oh, help pretty.
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Yeah. Just a lot of really pretty scenery. There was, um oh, there was one ominous one that Ace and I tried to take a picture of. It was just the most perfect timing of us coming. The sun was setting um in the, well, actually, I don't know which side it was setting, but you know where it sets. In the West. In the West.
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It was setting um behind the mountains almost. And the mountains were to my left. And we're coming up this hill, we see this little white chapel with a big, like tiny little white chapel, one room, very small with a, with a, with some steps going up to it. And you can see the sun setting behind it. And as we're coming up, the sun was just kind of right over the mountains and there's just graves.
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everywhere behind it. How cool. Yeah, because it was just an old graveyard, I guess, with a chapel. But it was it was just so, it with the sun the way it was and just like driving, it was just so unsettling but beautiful. you know what I love that. Yeah. and it was just It was great because it was just um a lot of like there wasn't a lot of highways once I like got through like into Maryland and the back half of Pennsylvania. Like they're just, it was like a lot of like one lane each way roads, just like so winding through the mountains. It was just so cool.
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But yeah, sorry. I've been talking about this for like three hours now. One more thing I do need to bring up. So I sent you this picture of and I'll put it on our site if you want to, but like there was this food truck called Nat's Spooky Spoon.
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If anyone knows, Nat or her spooky spoon. I have seen some stuff online, but it's just like the issue of the truck. Like being issued the license for the truck. Like I haven't found anything on the actual food truck itself.
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I'm going to double check because but actually when you sent me that. There's a phone number and like a Facebook and Instagram on there. but Yeah. And see, the thing is, is that after um I sent you all that, I looked and the Facebook had been created less than a week before. So they're new. Oh, wow.
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That's how cool. And they're based in Pennsylvania. So you were probably following them there. Dang it. I wish I would have gotten to try it. But that's Spooky Spoon. If anyone knows them or if you are the owner of that, like, please send me a message. Like, oh, I want to know more about your business. But that's so cool. Like your cart was so awesome. Like it's all spooky and decorated in Halloween. And I just I love it.
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Yeah, Nyleen sent me a picture of that while they were driving and I was like, follow it! Follow it, wherever it goes, to your death. Let's go. And then leaving the Mothman Museum was just this perfect, perfect picture.
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There was... I'm so i'm so weird. So I got out of the car. We were going to McDonald's because my kid was grumpy and tired and he really wanted some McDonald's. We were going to McDonald's and as I'm getting out of the car, there aunt...
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in and dragging a dead fly dragging it bigger than it which i know ants can carry like yeah but that's fucking metal you said you have a picture yes i do i got like a super close-up and i tried to show it to ace and sebastian and ah they were both like ah okay cool they have no whimsy and i know i'm like come on guys yeah so there's one picture of it i don't know if you can see it i can yeah and then I know. I was like, what are you going to do with that aunt, dude?
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This morning on my way to work, I saw a mama raccoon carrying her baby raccoon and walking down the sidewalk. Oh my gosh. Why didn't I get a picture of this? Because I was driving.
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It was 630 in the morning. i didn't want to murder myself this time, i guess. So last question that I have for you before we get into all of this.
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All of the nightmares. All of the nightmares. I'm going to talk about, i want to ask you a question of a situation. i don't know if it's just because I'm very high anxiety. And honestly, I thought I was high anxiety. My sister is more high anxiety than me.
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Like, I didn't think I could get worse, but apparently we can. How do you feel? Like, I know that you're very big on like, if I'm inviting you over to my house around a meal time, I'm going to make food for you or I will feed you.
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Right? You're very big about that. I don't assume you're ever going to feed me. No, but if you come to my house around a mealtime, I will... That's what I mean....force you to eat. That's what I mean, yeah. If you invite someone over around a mealtime, you're assuming... i Or you'll at least ask them if they want to eat. Yeah, I tend to take the hosting path with that. It's is's just the way i was raised. Now, let's say...
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Someone comes over unannounced or like you weren't thinking and it just wasn't a planned thing. They're at your house for whatever reason. And you're like, shit, I forgot to eat or let me just get a little sandwich real quick.
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Do you have that like that just that situation situational anxiety where you're like, do I ask them if they want to eat? What if they don't want to eat this rolled up piece of meat and cheese that I'm about to put in my face?
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I only have an opened bag of crackers. like Yeah, see, you know, here's the thing. When I am in that situation, i lock up and starve myself. But me hearing you say it, I'm like, well, what I would probably do, and this isn't what I'd probably do, but what I would probably do, Miss Advice Lady, is say, I'm so sorry. I'm famished. I've got to take this. Can I get you anything while I'm grabbing myself a snack?
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But I wouldn't think about that in the moment. I would just panic and not eat. See, i feel that. I do. But then like, I, you know me, if I tell you I'm hungry, it's I've been hungry and I will die if I don't get fed in the next three minutes.
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I'll also back it up and say that i I've been in this situation enough times that I prepare in advance. i mean, I so rarely have... I don't think I ever have unannounced visitors because anybody who knows me knows you... You don't do that.
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I don't know, man. It's just something that I was thinking about earlier because i I think I was going to tell you like, hey, feel free to come over whenever because you know I got off early at work today and I'm just...
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I'm sitting on my couch like working on on on my episode stuff. And I was like, oh, shit, I forgot to eat. And I was like, shit. Like I was thinking about sending you that message. And I was like, well, like what if she wants to eat? And then I have to figure out what she wants to eat. And like what if she doesn't want to eat this? And then it just becomes like a whole thing. And it's just so funny because like you of all people are the last person I need to worry about. yeah Like I could literally offer you ah piece of like moldy bread. And you'd be like, I mean, no, thank you. But you wouldn't judge me for it.
00:17:12
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But you know what I mean? would appreciate you offering me something because I have fucking manners and appreciation for whatever. I just like, I was thinking about that and I'm like, how do, what's like, do other people struggle with this? Like weird situation of like, do I have to feed you? Like, I feel like that is something I worry about when I hang out with other people. Like, I'm like, well, the best time would be around this time, but because my kid's awake, but that's also like lunch or dinner time. and Right.
00:17:39
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Do I have to feed you? i don't have money to feed everybody. feel free to cut that out. It was just a. No, no. It's okay. So what else do you have going on?
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um Well, this will be releasing while we're still in Pride Month, so we can talk about Pride. Happy Pride. Pride. But yeah, our friend Marky's coming in from out of town. We're going to go watch a drag show, and it's going to be awesome.
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and What drag show you going to see? you going to see? Or is it just like a ah local show?
Pride Month Plans and Celebrations
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god there's like four or five like drag race girls ah like two or three local girls and it's a free freaking show so we're gonna please go and melt in the sun well you know it's gonna be later in the day but we're still gonna melt and we're going to melt rainbows and sparkles and have a great time i love that so much i wish i could go
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I think it's time for nightmares. Okay. So, as I mentioned, I decided to drive through Point Pleasant, West Virginia. So I
Exploring Point Pleasant and Mothman
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decided to make a pit stop to visit a well-known cryptid's hunting grounds. Do you know who?
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I mean, I do. Oh, yeah. Wait, I mentioned it earlier. And I've been, like, talking to you. does The Mothman! Mothman! Yes. So I went to the Mothman Museum.
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i will, every once in a while, slip to saying Mothman. um I don't know why i cannot stop saying Mothman. There's only one is ah the Mothman. So...
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I'll add some really cool pictures to our episode page for anyone that wants to see it. And like, you know, this the museum was a lot of fun. Bash wasn't a fan of the museum. Oh no. Because he's a scaredy butt. Like he liked all the little plushies and stuff. And he liked being in the store and we did like the mini golf and stuff, but he just did not...
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want to be in the room with like all of the life-size mothmen and the men in black everywhere. i can see where that would be intimidating to somebody who's two feet tall. Yeah. He's still getting used to the idea that like not all life-size things are mothmen.
00:19:48
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actually like life yeah alive and moving yeah yeah so that was a thing but quick shout out to the museum ah the mothman museum really great the shop next door and the little neon mini golf they have over there honestly like cute fun informative place the staff is really nice it's not really crowded so but like they have a lot of people but like they have a good flow i feel like if i had more time i would have gone to the escape room they had there Yes, the Laul Hotel. I really wanted to go there. And honestly, I'll probably do some research and episodes on that in the future. they had some little antique shops in the area. i wish I had time to go to as well. oh it sounds like you could do a whole vacation. You really could. Yeah, we were talking about that. Like the area is like, it's small, but it's quaint and it's nice.
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Like it's very, it's it feels, you feel safe at least there walking around. Old town feel kind of thing. Yeah. Yeah. The museum, like I said, it had, and went over like a lot of Mothman stuff, a few other nightmarish happenings that we'll go over in future episodes. There was just so much I couldn't put it all on one episode.
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So now to get to the actual meat of why we are here, mr Mothman himself. Mr. Mothman. Today we are just going to discuss one of the most detailed accounts that took place in November of 1966 when two young couples who seemed to be on a double date found themselves encountering this strange creature multiple times over a few days.
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The initial interaction took place the night of November 15th, 1966. It was late at night and the couples were cruising past an abandoned ammunition plant in a 1956 Chevy Bel Air belonging to Roger Scarberry.
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Yes, they were writing in style. Yeah. So a little background on this creepy abandoned plant. This was the West Virginia Ordnance Works North plant. It was a plant that was used during World War II to manufacture about 250 tons of TNT every day. cheese Yes.
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After World War II ended in 1945, the plant was closed, leaving about 8,000 acres of land and some of the factory's old structures to be repurposed. About half of the land was turned over to the McClintic Wildlife Management and was repurposed for hunting and fishing.
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But the rest of the area is now called the TNT area for obvious reasons. What was left behind are old TNT storage bunkers and... They kind of look like cement igloos like covered in dirt.
00:22:13
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um The area not only looks creepy and haunted as fuck, but apparently there is still a lot of TNT just left in the area. Not in cases, but like contamination everywhere.
00:22:25
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So bad that in 2010, one of the munkers actually exploded. Oh my god There's that. And they still are there? They're still there. Cool. You know. Cool, cool, cool. That's what we do.
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Anyways, so... One of the couples in this group um were Roger and Linda Scarberry, whose car it was. And then Steve and Mary Millett were the other couple.
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um Actually, I don't know if Steve's last name was Millett. I had trouble finding his last name. He was the only one who didn't do a handwritten witness statement that I saw. Like, it was really cool because the the museum had like their handwritten witness statements on display. That's cool. And then like typed what it said because not everyone can read cursive, I found out.
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but So the group was driving on the back roads right by the old factory building when Steve yelled out to look at the thing in the road that they saw scuttling along the side of the road and into the powerhouse.
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Roger took off going about 100 plus miles per hour down the winding roads. That's dangerous. It was a winding road with a lot of hills and bumps.
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The creature was flying after them, hovering behind and over their car, avoiding their headlights. They all reported large red eyes and could hear its wings beating against the wind. Once they moved into a brighter, more populated area, the C.C. Lewis farm, it disappeared.
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They state they then went to dairy land and just sat there staring at each other, trying to process what had just happened and what to do next. As you do.
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In Mary's eyewitness account of this first look at the creature, she stated, quote, When I first saw this thing, which appeared to be a man about six feet tall with wings on its back and red eyes, two inches in diameter and about six inches apart.
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First of all, like that's pretty, I don't know that I would remember. I don't know. Maybe you would.
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I mean, trauma is a hell of a drug. That's true. um So to continue her quote, as we drove back toward town on Route 62, we saw this man with wings standing on a bank, but I could not see his head.
00:24:35
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And as soon as our lights hit the bank, you could see its eyes plainly. And it seemed to take off upward very fast. It seemed to be afraid of the lights. Here is a problem.
00:24:47
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Moths love lights. That's what I'm saying. So, you know, they're probably just on drugs. We will touch on that in a minute. One note here. We were driving near and around these back roads and they are crazy twisty, turny, hilly roads, no street lamps.
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And we were going like 50 miles per hour in an all wheel drive midsize. And still felt like we were barely hanging on the road. So going 100 miles per hour in a car from that back then kind of feels scary.
00:25:17
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But okay. So here they are at the Dairyland. I'm sorry. I'm going to stop you. Because it reminds me of ah one of my most recurring nightmares. And because this is a nightmare cottage, I have to interject.
00:25:32
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So one of my most recurring nightmares that I've had forever is Driving somewhere and not having control of the vehicle and always, it's usually always going on like an overpass. So like the mountain roads is the same idea. And like, so it always ends with me flying off the side. Yes.
00:25:52
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Falling off an overpass is like one of my worst fears. Yeah, man. Because when I was like, maybe like nine or 10, my mom was driving on an icy overpass and it was really high up and her car started sliding.
00:26:06
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And she started moving the wheel. She couldn't figure out what to do. oh no. And yeah. And there were cars in front of us and she was trying to figure out what to do. and I just like started like kind of adjusting the emergency brake just a little bit because I was like she was freaking out. And I was like, i don't know what to do. That helped, though. it The car stopped. She like got it to the side.
00:26:25
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But it was just because I didn't just pull it. I like I did the soft. I mean, I know you made it, but I'm like stressed It was so scary, but no, that is one of my reoccurring nightmares as well. Yeah, for that reason. That's crazy. and Yeah, sorry. It's okay. It just like it hit, so I thought I'd share. No, for the share away.
00:26:44
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Continue. That's what we do here. Yes. Share our nightmares. So these... Group of 20 something. and They are at Dairyland discussing what just happened. And Linda, of course, she wanted to go to the police.
00:26:58
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Fucking Linda. Fucking Linda. But they figured that the police would just. Yeah, exactly. But they figured the police would probably just laugh at them. The guys, of course, wanted to go back and see if they could find it to tell what it actually was.
00:27:10
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So they decided to drive back towards a farm where they had lost the creature. And they saw a large dead dog on the side of the road. So it seems in their retellings that it is implied that the creature might have killed the dog.
00:27:24
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But, you know, obviously we don't know. They started to turn to leave. But the thing, as Linda calls it, jumped out from behind something and leaped over the car and went through the field on the other side of the road.
00:27:37
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This freaked them out enough that they decided to go get the police. Sure. So remembering that this isn't a time with cell phones and we're in a rural area, rural enough at least that they don't likely have landlines everywhere.
00:27:51
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So the group decided to go to the nearby drive-in to see if they could find an officer there. They did happen upon someone named Gary, who I'm not sure if he's a cop or just another friend.
00:28:02
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They tell Gary what happened and to call the police. So the police show up. Gary and the police decide to follow behind their car like a little convoy to see if they can find this creature again. The group get back in their car, drive back down those roads again with the police and Gary following about a mile behind.
00:28:20
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I don't know about you, but I wouldn't keep going back. Don't know. why they kept doing this. But okay. All of the reports state that they saw it standing in the pasture with its wings out, like kind of walking towards their car.
00:28:34
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And then all of a sudden it started quickly moving towards their car. And as Gary's lights came into view over the hill, it shined on the creature and it quickly disappeared. Now it isn't clear what disappeared means here in all three of these tellings.
00:28:49
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It just said disappeared. Like, did it bolt? Did it vanish into dust? to Wink out of existence? Like, description is unclear. I don't really know what happened to it here. Uh-huh. Mm-hmm. But they continued on down the road and they couldn't find it again.
00:29:04
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They drove back to the drive-in to regroup with Gary. They got in the car with Gary and went back up to the road where they saw the creature in Gary's car this time. Linda recounts in her written report.
00:29:16
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Quote, we finally found miller halsted and got with him and went to the powerhouse building we sat there with our light out for about fifteen or twenty minutes when i heard that squeaking sound like a mouse only stronger ah shadow went across the building and the dogs started barking over the hill across from us mar and i saw red eyes and then told millard he shine the lights right on them without being told what they were We saw dust coming from the ground or somewhere as Millard moved the spotlight around.
00:29:48
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We finally left and came to the trailer. We were afraid to go to their apartment, so we decided to stay together. But we didn't go to bed. We just turned on all the lights and stayed up.
00:29:59
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End quote. Like, fair? i feel like we've all had those moments where it's like, oh, oh, not turning out the lights tonight. I always wonder...
00:30:11
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Because I am a skeptic. Like how I would respond to seeing something unexplainable. I feel like I would be pretty fucked in the head at that point.
00:30:23
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I would assume I was hallucinating. i feel like... i feel like knowing you very much like me, you would find, and more more than me even, would find a way to rationalize it. I would. Yeah, i would I would definitely look for that for sure. Yeah, because I i think and think especially you being so close to Monkey, who is insanely rational when it comes to those things. Insanely rational. I love those two words together. Oh my goodness. Yes, like...
00:30:57
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It's just though the reasoning he comes up with things. You're like, okay, that's logical. But like, shut up. Okay. Yes. I do frequently tell him that I don't want any of his logic.
00:31:09
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And then he tells me that I want all of it. I'm like, yeah, you're right. I don't want any of this here. i am not interested. I want to return this. but So... Anyway, so they got spooked, right?
00:31:20
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The next day, they went back up to the building, again, in the daylight, with guns in tow, to check out the old powerhouse. Fair enough. They found some odd tracks around the building, which were later described as two horseshoes put together, but smoothed.
00:31:36
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Steve suddenly came running back, saying that he opened the boiler doors and saw something move in there. And then what? I don't know. Because they conveniently move on to that night.
00:31:49
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Every single one of them. It's like they rehearsed their story or something. It's so weird. So later that night, someone reported seeing the creature near their house.
00:31:59
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So they went hunting for it. They saw it from the highway flying back and forth above the trees, but weren't able to get a better look at it. They continued searching for it well past midnight, but decided to head home.
00:32:10
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As they were leaving, Linda and Mary saw it on one of the maintenance buildings. But again, it doesn't follow them. Linda ends up being taken to the hospital by Roger and her dad because she was just losing it, like freaking out.
00:32:24
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So they have another sleepless night. Is this the end for our heroes? No. Heroes. for Well, what I mean, what do they usually say? I mean, that's usually what they say.
00:32:36
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Is this the end for our heroes? Find out next week on Dragon Ball Z. I knew you were going to say that.
00:32:45
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Okay. So the next day, Thursday, day three of this back and forth nonsense. Like if you went to the hospital the day before for panicking too hard,
00:32:56
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It's probably time to call it on the creature hunting, right? Like, you probably shouldn't keep looking for it. I mean, yes. Regardless. They went back. if one yeah if you If you're having a nervous breakdown about it, yeah, probably cease.
00:33:11
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So they went back to the powerhouse building with reporters this time. And they heard a clanging noise from inside the building with the reporters. Roger, Steve, and the reporters went back in and found the broiler door open that Steve had shut when he had left there a few minutes before.
00:33:27
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um They didn't see any more evidence of the creature, though. So that night they went back up again. at this point, it feels like they're harassing the creature, if anything. Like, I feel like it's just like, like literally looking at him like what?
00:33:40
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What are you doing? So then I want you to tell me that he shows up and fucks them all up for interrupting his peaceful existence. um If he did that, then I wouldn't have their handwritten accounts. I guess.
00:33:55
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Kind of. Unless they're ghosts. That's a whole nother theory we can discuss here if you want to. well So Linda recounts in her handwritten account, quote, That night, we went back up and Mary and I saw the eyes inside the fenced off place beside the powerhouse building.
00:34:12
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On the way home, I saw its eyes back in some trees from the road as the car went past and looked back and could see its form. That is the last I have seen it. To me, it just looks like a man with wings.
00:34:24
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It has a body shape form with wings on its back that come around it. It was a dirty gray color. Rude. It has muscular legs like a man and fiery red eyes that glow when the lights hit it.
00:34:36
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There was no glowing about it until the lights hit it. I couldn't see its head or arms. I don't know if its eyes are even in a head. wonderful So just like. What a thought.
00:34:47
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Hovering eyes. I guess. And wings. Just eyes and wings. Like maybe has antennas. Or like a crab. You know how they have little. Yeah. Yeah. and When we came down the straight stretch by the armory, it didn't even seem like it had trouble keeping up with us.
00:35:02
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It must have had very powerful wings. And at no time did this thing fly at us from the front of the car. It stayed over the back end of the car while it was chasing us. It seemed to be afraid of lights, but I read in the paper today that it has been seen in daytime in town.
00:35:17
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I know people are laughing at us, but this is no laughing matter. We'll never forget this thing. It has affected our lives in many ways. I'm keeping going on nerve and sleeping pills.
00:35:28
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When it gets dark, I feel the fear creeping over me. When I go any place, I automatically look up and out the windows. I'm afraid to sleep or go to bed. The lights burn all night. Even in the daylight, I'm afraid to be by myself.
00:35:40
Speaker
People have said we we were probably liquored up, but we were not. They go up there expecting to see it, but then they say they don't believe us. End quote. It just like, you could feel like,
00:35:54
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her breaking down yeah in that report. And honestly, like, I kind of felt bad because the first thing I thought of was, this reminds me of, like, was it the Sandman movies? Sandman? Was Sandman?
00:36:05
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Or Candyman? Where they were afraid to go to sleep? I mean, that might be Nightmare on Elm Street. That's true. Which one was the one where the guy got, like, sucked into waterbed?
00:36:16
Speaker
That's Nightmare on Elm Street, the first one that was Johnny Depp. Anyways, that's what that reminded me of where they're like, I don't want to go to sleep. It'll come for me. um So Roger Scarberry actually wrote in his handwritten report, quote, this thing, whatever it is, is definitely not a crane or a goose or balloon or any of the things that has been called, end quote.
00:36:36
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So there's been a lot of different sightings. There's so much more to discuss about our dear moth friend at a future date. um There's been a lot of attempts to identify what the moth man actually is. Most land on the Sandhill Crane. which is a large bird with a seven foot wingspan and circles of red coloring around its eyes.
00:36:55
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and The only problem with this theory is that the Point Pleasant area doesn't fall anywhere near the cranes migration route. I was going to ask if they're native to that area at all. So why would they even get make that an assumption? Because it just it's it fits the description.
00:37:10
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That that would be the reason. So, I mean, my money is on a type of owl or bat type creature that is rare and live somewhere in the great Appalachian range. All I know is that the statue of Mothman is all double cheeked up.
00:37:23
Speaker
Has a very intense metal ass with a crack so deep you can fit a quarter in it. Literally. i didn't i didn't do it. But there is a quarter in his ass. I have a picture of it. I'll put it on the side. you didn't do it. I didn't.
00:37:35
Speaker
I swear. like Literally, I walked up and the first thing I see is a quarter in his ass. And this lady was taking a picture. Lady and Guy were taking a picture of like them with his ass. And they saw me and they got embarrassed. And I was like oh, no, it's okay. We all want it.
00:37:48
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And she goes, there's a quarter it. yeah I was like, oh, God. I love finding fellow weird people out in the wild. I agree. It's fantastic. But yes, so that is the end of my detailed Mothman story. I know I've described nothing but a spooky encounter, but I feel like it fits the theme of my trip very well. It was just fun and and spooky and nice. I loved it. That's awesome.
00:38:15
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Yes.
00:38:22
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So when you told me you were going to be covering something that you did when you were on your trip, I thought it would be fun to do the same. obviously I haven't done a trip lately. So something I like to do when I visit a new place is find an old cemetery.
00:38:35
Speaker
It's just such an interesting look into the history and culture of where you're visiting. I mean, there are, There's some things that are the same at all cemeteries and there's always something that's a little different. Like what do you like about the cemeteries themselves? Is it usually looking at like all the gravestones? Is it reading them or do you enjoy more the quietness? What what is it that you enjoy about?
00:38:55
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Kind of a little of all of that. And there's usually always some kind of interesting landscaping or and don't know. They kind of all have their own vibe. And yeah, I guess the quiet stillness of it is welcoming because I'm I like to be still.
00:39:10
Speaker
but But because of that, I've been to several very cool cemeteries and there's still even beyond that several more I want to visit. So we're going to be starting another ongoing series that I want to call Grave Encounters.
00:39:25
Speaker
Yes! I love this. So I'll be talking about the history, people, and other interesting bits of cemeteries I've either visited or really want to visit. Nice. Which ones are we talking about today? Our first grave encounter.
00:39:38
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is the Metairie Cemetery in New Orleans, ah Louisiana. So
Exploring Metairie Cemetery
00:39:43
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this place truly felt like a city of the dead. um Most people, when they go to New Orleans, they visit the St. Louis Cemetery No. 1, and you totally should, because it's awesome also, and it'll eventually pop up on here too. It's called Cemetery No. 1. St. Louis Cemetery No. 1, because there's...
00:39:58
Speaker
That's its own episode. I'll tell i'll explain it later. oh But yeah, so that's where Marie Laveau is buried. And and ah there's a lot of history in that one. i mean, yes, everybody should visit that one. And we'll talk about that one at another time.
00:40:10
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But you should also see Metairie. It's 127 acres of rows upon rows of ornate mausoleums, several the size of a small house. Oh, my gosh. With slightly more modest plots here and there.
00:40:25
Speaker
We were there for hours, like hours, and definitely didn't see everything. In fact, here, this picture will make more sense later, but that's aerial view. Oh my gosh, that looks like a community.
00:40:38
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That's crazy. That's insane. Yeah. I love that. So let's start with the history of the cemetery itself. The site actually started out as a horse racetrack.
00:40:50
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um It was called the Metairie Course. It was pretty successful until the Civil War, like super high-end society racetrack bullshit. yeah But yeah, it was pretty successful until the Civil War. And during the Civil War, it was converted to a camp for the Confederate soldiers until April of 1862. 1962.
00:41:06
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hmm. eighteen sixty two i typed nineteen sixty two they're like
00:41:13
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ah Now, during the heyday of the racetrack, the course was owned by the Metairie Jockey Club. And it wasn't this was an exclusive club. Generally, imagine just a bunch of like overly rich people. And it turns out they denied entry to the wrong person.
00:41:27
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Charles T. Howard. He was overly rich, but he was self-made. Apparently, membership was reserved for old money. He had a history of holding a grudge and got even by buying up the properties of people who snubbed him.
00:41:40
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He swore he'd turn that track into a cemetery. Spoiler alert. Oh my gosh. After the Civil War, the Jockey Club went bankrupt and Howard made good on his promise. In 1872, the Metairie Cemetery was established.
00:41:55
Speaker
Howard passed away after being thrown from a carriage in 1885. He was buried at almost the center of the Metairie, so he finally got his permanent membership. Oh my gosh. There's picture his grave.
00:42:05
Speaker
my gosh. grave That is fantastic. I love a good revenge story. Yeah, well, we got another one coming up. I'm a petty Betty, so.
00:42:19
Speaker
I love that about you. i know. So let's check in with a few of the other residents of the Metairie. We'll start with the woman who made me aware of the existence of this cemetery through her books, Anne Rice.
00:42:32
Speaker
I adore her Vampire Chronicles books. The Metairie was a frequent setting in the Mayfair Witches books, Those aren't my favorite of hers, but her descriptions of New Orleans in those books is what made me want to go there. It's what made me want to stay in the Garden District. It's made what made me want to go to that cemetery.
00:42:47
Speaker
Her works have been very influential to me. And it was really cool to be able to like just pay my respects. It was, you know, a thing. Anne is interred with her husband, the poet Stan Rice, and their daughter Michelle.
00:43:00
Speaker
On the side of their beautiful mausoleum are etched passages of Stan's poetry. Aww. Here's... that that's the side it's beautiful yeah so next let's move on to visit detective david hennessy He was the chief of police in New Orleans in 1890.
00:43:18
Speaker
He did a
Historic New Orleans: From Hennessy to Arlington
00:43:19
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lot of work to minimize the mob influence in the area. On October 16th, 1890, while walking home, he was shot by several people. Oh my gosh. He died from his wounds in the hospital. By several people?
00:43:31
Speaker
Yes. Well, remember, he did a lot of work to minimize the influence of the mob. but So he's not super popular with some people. Yeah, that's fair. So 19 Italian people were arrested in connection with the murder.
00:43:44
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Nine of them went to trial. The trials went poorly, partially because several jurors were being bribed and several others were fearing repercussions from going against the mob.
00:43:55
Speaker
All nine cases were acquitted or declared a mistrial. David Hennessy was liked and respected by the community and people were pissed at the lack of accountability. a large group formed and worked their way to the holding cells.
00:44:08
Speaker
They managed to lynch 11 of the prisoners before they dispersed. my gosh. This is the biggest lynching in American history. um And there's a movie on HBO from 1999 called Vendetta starring Christopher Walken that is about this story.
00:44:23
Speaker
I haven't watched it, but I plan to. So yeah, David Hennessey is another tenant of the Metairie. is it It's not a spooky movie, but it's just more like a historical movie, right? Right, yeah.
00:44:34
Speaker
And then here's him and his grave. Oh, that looks like a penis. I was, I didn't say it, but I figured you might. You know me too well.
00:44:46
Speaker
So the last Metairie resident we're going to check in on is Josie Arlington, Madam of Storyville. Are you familiar with? No, I'm not. Okay. There's actually a legend of a ghost story with this one too. So Josie Arlington was born Mary Dubler in New Orleans in 1864. Yeah.
00:45:05
Speaker
Depending on who you want to believe, she was either orphaned as a young child and then raised by nuns, or she had super asshole parents that she wanted to escape from. Either way, she left home at 16 or 17 to pursue sex work, which was legal in New Orleans at the time.
00:45:18
Speaker
She was known to have a serious temper, but that kind of worked in her favor and she did pretty well for herself. You know, everybody has their kinks. Mm hmm. But she had a super dick of a boyfriend slash maybe pimp. um He didn't like her bringing work home.
00:45:31
Speaker
She reminded him that she paid for the house and he could piss off at any time. Oh, they don't like that. He didn't love that. So the dick boyfriend shot her brother in the face. Oh my gosh.
00:45:42
Speaker
I feel like that's a weird reaction. There was more to the story, but I'm just trying to keep it. I'm like, you're a piece of shit. I'm shooting your brother. Okay. Well, she was going to kick him out. Or, well, she said, he you know, there's the door when you want to. She moved her brother in. And, oh yeah. it was a whole thing.
00:46:00
Speaker
that That's, that sucks. Yeah. So while this could spell, like I mean, you've had to leave your family or whatever life you had to become a sex worker at 16 or 17. and then your boyfriend shoots your brother in the face.
00:46:14
Speaker
yeah so this could spell extra disaster in the form of like a wicked downward spiral but our girl josie rallied and stepped her whole game up she was now caring for anna the niece her brother had left behind ah she also found a new friend and romantic partner in okay so his name is tom brady but i also saw it referred to as tj brady so we're gonna go with that so i'm not just talking about tom brady um You sure you don't want to tag Tom Brady in this? And then that way people will come here expecting to hear a story about Tom Brady.
00:46:44
Speaker
Yes, sports, sports nightmares. Oh, that could be a fun one. Yeah. Okay. Anyways. ah So TJ took Josie to the super opulent Arlington Hotel in Hot Springs, Arkansas. This is when she was still Mary Dooler.
00:47:00
Speaker
And her mind was just opened. She, in turn, after experiencing this, opened the most opulent and rich brothel in the city. Spared no expense. Yeah.
00:47:11
Speaker
She hired women from all over the world to provide a unique selection and they would specialize in various kinks. They were notoriously far and away the most expensive companions in the city. i love all of this. Yes. Like, yes.
00:47:24
Speaker
She was also unbending in her unwillingness to allow virgins to be defiled in her brothel. No amount of money made her waver on that. I love that. So Josie was doing very, very well for herself. She bought herself a big, awesome house, but generally spent her fortune on her niece, Anna.
00:47:41
Speaker
Anna was not um aware of Josie's line of work while she was growing up. So, oh, I guess she was young. And so she didn't really understand. Right. Well, and she Josie purposefully kept her away from this. Sorry, I'm going to punch.
00:47:53
Speaker
You did. You know, you did. But yeah, jos Josie intentionally kept her away from it. She didn't want her to know what she did for a living. So everything was going so well. Josie's temper even mellowed out.
00:48:04
Speaker
But all good things must end. In 1905, an electrical fire took out Josie's brothel. Oh, my God. The whole brothel relocated to her business partner's building during reconstruction.
00:48:15
Speaker
But Josie's heart just wasn't in it. Everything she had built in her life, you know, just burned and she just really didn't have it in her to do it again. So she retired in 1909. ah She tried to transition to high society, but she just wasn't accepted, partially because they knew who she was. yeah The women looked down on her and the men were afraid she wouldn't keep their secrets.
00:48:35
Speaker
Yeah. I feel like that's an even more of a reason to let her in. ah You would think. um The other big reason, though, is that whole unspoken old money thing. Yeah. Right. So they really like people who have always been rich. Fuck you. have You've only been rich for a second.
00:48:51
Speaker
So Anna became her caretaker at this point, along with TJ. Josie's mental and physical health was declining. ah She was fixated on death. And similar to Charles T. Howard, she was determined to stick it to the stuck-up high society bitches.
00:49:05
Speaker
So she purchased a plot at the Metairie, which was the place to be interred if you were anyone at all. She then worked with a sculptor, Albert Wieblen. to design her mausoleum, red granite with a bronze door and a girl holding flowers hoping to enter.
00:49:20
Speaker
It was $5,500, which is about today. Wow. She passed away on Valentine's Day 1914 due to dementia. um Which a couple of sources I found said she hadn't shown signs of that. And then some say ah said that there is rapid onset dementia. Yes.
00:49:40
Speaker
yeah So I don't know. And especially during that time. i mean, what did you say? That was like late 1914. So even yeah early nineteen hundred s I don't feel like enough was known about it. just Sure. But I will also note here that Anna and TJ...
00:49:54
Speaker
had been having an affair for a while and married a week after Josie died. God. Literally not a single source I read even suggested this, but like, I mean, they killed her, right?
00:50:05
Speaker
Oh my God. So poisoning or something like not even slow poison, like no resources. I saw said anything like even indicated that there was any foul play here, but it just like feels so. Yeah. ah That doesn't feel right.
00:50:18
Speaker
Right. They probably burned down their brothel too. And we're hoping she was inside. No, that was earlier. Things were still good then. You say that. You're right. I don't know how long they were doing it.
00:50:29
Speaker
That's fair. She was... Anna was decades younger than TJ. My brain just goes. I know. I know it does. It just goes. Anyway, they inherited absolutely everything and they blew through it in a year.
00:50:43
Speaker
so my God. And resorted to selling Josie's tomb to the Morales family, having her remains moved to an unspecified and unmarked grave elsewhere in the Metairie. No. Now they claimed... You can't do that. can They can. they They were the next of kin.
00:51:01
Speaker
Um, so they claim the reason they did this is because they were so embarrassed by the attention Josie's tomb was getting. Why was it getting attention? You may ask people claim the stone torches at the top of the tomb would burst into real flame and that a red glow was coming from inside.
00:51:18
Speaker
They realized there was a weird reflection from a light nearby. So they removed the light carved across on the back and didn't have any more problems for a while. Hmm. People claim that today, that on the anniversary of her death, so on Valentine's Day, that the fires will come back to life.
00:51:36
Speaker
But that's actually not the only spooky claim associated with Josie Arlington's tomb. People have reported seeing the statue of the girl wandering the grounds, visiting other tombs after dark. The groundskeepers have even found the statue in various places around the cemetery in the mornings.
00:51:51
Speaker
What? How heavy is the statue? i don't know, man. It's bronze. But... if If that part is actually true, it's an excellent prank and I applaud anybody who's doing it. yes It's fucking great. mean, just don't break it.
00:52:04
Speaker
Yeah. Well, I mean, it's bronze. So I feel like I would just like nail this down. Right. Like you would take some. I mean, think about it, though. If she was buried in an unmarked grave or somewhere like anywhere in there, like it could almost be like her wandering looking for her body.
00:52:19
Speaker
Perhaps. The other thing, though, is that while it's not explicitly mentioned, there's theories that the the theme of the girl trying to get in is like the virgin who is trying to come into her house and she wouldn't let her. Oh, yeah, that kind of thing.
00:52:34
Speaker
So, yeah, these are only a couple of the people. There's over 9000 people interred at the Metairie. So this is just a quick glimpse. um I've got a ton of pictures for my. I feel like 9000 doesn't feel like enough for what you showed me.
00:52:46
Speaker
So here's the way. Fun fact. They're massive. Yeah. So the way mausoleums work. No, I'm sorry. i should do it like this. So the way mausoleums work. she just Just switch your glasses. I cannot.
00:53:00
Speaker
The way mausoleums work is that you put the... There's like a... That was the glasses clipping on. Sorry. they There's like an opening, right? And then they put the bones and ashes in there. Yeah.
00:53:13
Speaker
And after X amount of time... I'm sorry, I don't remember all the details from the tour we took at one of the places, but they... After so much time or when the next person in the family dies, they slide the bones back into a little cavity and then they put the next ones up. You can fit like something like, depending on the size of the ma mausoleum, you can fit dozens of family members in one mausoleum. Yeah, so that way they're all together. Right. I didn't know that they did like ashes or just the bones. I thought they like did the full bodies and never...
00:53:42
Speaker
I feel like it depends, but like some of the smaller ones that are like massive family mausoleums that are like just the size of a shed instead of a house. That's what's happening there. That's cool.
00:53:53
Speaker
I have a ton of pictures. Some of them are going to go in the show notes. The rest are going to go into Nim's Nightmares so y'all can see all of those without... taking up all the show notes with my vacation pictures. but But yeah, it was gorgeous.
00:54:06
Speaker
Like just going through the aisles. I say aisles. They were freaking streets. Like, I mean, it was huge. Like we drove through the place um and then we stopped several times and like walked up and down and I'm surprised I let you drive through with all of that. You have to. I know, but I'm just thinking like the damage that could be done with a car. There's roads, like paths. like po got cars yeah The place is massive. It's so big.
00:54:32
Speaker
I have definitely different experiences with freedom of movement and some of the other cemeteries I'll talk about at a later time. Okay. i'm I'm one of those people that's like, Just bury me, throw my ashes somewhere. i Don't keep them.
00:54:44
Speaker
Put them under a tree. I don't care.
Cold Cases Resurface in Dallas Pond
00:54:47
Speaker
I saw this thing, i think it was on Reddit, where this, it was a picture of a bottle with ashes and inside was a note that said, this is my mom.
00:54:56
Speaker
Please throw her back. She's traveling the world. Aww. From wherever they were from. And it was like a bottle throw back out. i love that. I thought that was really kind of cool. Yeah, that's really, really cool.
00:55:06
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I like
00:55:10
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I've been like finding a lot of like just really random weird news articles on my travels because, you know, as you drive through places, it's like, oh, you're here. Guess what's happening in this area.
00:55:22
Speaker
But something really interesting that was apparently just found. So in Dallas, Texas, there is a neighborhood called Oak Cliff and there is a pond called in Lake Cliff Park.
00:55:40
Speaker
Apparently, they have decided to start cleaning it out. Apparently, it was supposed to be a routine cleaning, but it hasn't been done in about 10 years. I don't know how routine that is.
00:55:51
Speaker
But so they started cleaning out the lake. And so far, they found nearly 10 cars in the pond as they've been cleaning it out and dragging it. The worst part is that...
00:56:03
Speaker
There's an ad on my page right now, so I can't see anything. The worst part is that they're finding that, you know, some of these cars are related to like missing persons and things like that from, you know, a while ago um from a really long time.
00:56:18
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But I am interested to see if this helps any cold case yeah so cases or anything like that, or if it's just been too young, ah too long. But it does say like one of the vehicles could belong to 88 year old woman who vanished about a year ago.
00:56:36
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So um and some of them like a teen that was reported missing, someone with dementia. Like there's just like a lot of a few people that they're like, I mean, it's it's just crazy to think that like something is...
00:56:49
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Simple as dragging a lake could. i mean, i guess that's what the mob used to do. But talk about a nightmare. That's one of my biggest nightmares, um especially living so close to a big river, is like falling off the bridge and like being stuck in my car in floodwaters. That is a recurring nightmare. Like I... Like, like it's like I... no Do I even want to get out of the car at that point? Like...
00:57:16
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eight i Should I just drown in here or like try to get out? Because like, I feel like if it's deep water. It's dark, deep water. I don't like it. And it's rushing and it's moving in the car. And this is 100% lack of control. Yeah.
00:57:30
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Can't do it. Nope. So that's if you, if you want to talk about nightmares, that is, that is mine. So that's all I got. All right. That was not exactly cleansing. No. Oh, a palate cleanser.
00:57:42
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ah Okay. Fair. No, that was nightmare fuel. yeah What about the palate cleanser? I didn't think didn't do this. I think it was probably even my turn. um Something that, I think it was the, the episode that you did on victorian death culture or something like that it made me think of like you know like clothing and things that people wear when they die so when they die when they're buried when they're buried right so you know i've i've heard the horror stories of when i say horror stories of like oh i forgot to bury grandma with a bra or don't you dare bury me with a bra right i'll fucking kill you Something I found very interesting about you is you are always in mismatched socks.
00:58:32
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Yes. Like, would it be a huge fuck you if you were buried, whatever, your final form in a bra and or matching socks? Like, I mean, with with I understand like that your end of life views are very different. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But just in like, imagine you're a ghost. Would that piss you off?
00:58:56
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In this in this ah hypothetical situation, and I am a ghost, I probably died wearing mismatched socks, so my ghost would have mismatched socks. Yes, but looking at your funeral, you know, like if you went to your funeral and you're like watching all this stuff, like would that bother you knowing that they put matching socks? No.
00:59:17
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I mean, it'd be dumb. You'd be able to tell with somebody who didn't know me. Anybody close enough to me in death would probably know to keep my socks mismatched. But ah no, i you know, that that shit's for the living.
00:59:32
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Okay. So, all right, question for you. One more. What is your greatest extravagance? Like, what's something I don't and I don't even need extravagance to mean like you spend a lot of money on it. It's like just something that you were like overly particular about and very like, it has to be this and I have to have it this way for this reason and blah, blah, blah.
00:59:55
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Oh, well, I understood that differently because I was going to say my garden. um My morning routine. That's fair. It's kind of the only time or it's the only consistent time that is just mine because I get up at 430 in the morning and I get up and I have my coffee and I need to have time to exist for a little bit before I go into things and I hang out with my cat.
01:00:27
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And if something disrupts that, My whole day is just off. Yeah, you know, and i I think you've brought that up before with how how your mornings go. And I don't think you've ever really digested that.
01:00:42
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God, just to sit in silence and enjoy... but Just peace. Yes. Yes. No expectations. Like I'm sitting here.
01:00:53
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Nobody expects anything out of me right now for like the next hour. and we yeah. and like, I'll, you know, check the news or whatever. Like, it doesn't matter what I'm doing.
01:01:05
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It's my time. And it sucks that that it's that time because I'm, you know, I would love to just be asleep. Yeah. But because that is not to be and I have to do it.
01:01:16
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um It's just it's part of my my routine that that makes waking up at 430 in the morning and then driving an hour to work. Not a miserable thing, but actually something I can look forward to.
01:01:26
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You know, as it reminds me of like growing up. I lived with a friend for a while when I was a teenager. And I remember maybe a teen. I was like late teens, early 20s. And I remember because.
01:01:41
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Her dad would wake up really, really early in the morning. Her mom would as well. And I would usually be sleeping on the couch. or and so I would smell the coffee maker going off in the morning.
01:01:53
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i would hear her light that first cigarette. and Because we would smoke in the house. And and I would get up. And just sit there. We would sit in silence, just drink our coffee and smoke a cigarette. And then I would go lay back down.
01:02:07
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And it was so peaceful. it really was so peaceful. And I haven't thought about that in so long. And it has brought me some peace. So maybe I will try to know. God, that sounds so scary to try to wake up that early anymore.
01:02:21
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That's fair. And it's it's not easy. And I will say that it is easier because i I do kind of lament the fact that I can't really super sleep in anymore. But if I do happen to wake up at, say, 6 or 7 on a Saturday morning, yeah, I'm annoyed because I'm not getting to sleep in. but You didn't waste the day. i Well, not only did I not waste the day, but like... can always nap later, too. I don't have to, like, get dressed and look cute and go somewhere, right? I can just...
01:02:46
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luxuriate on my pile of pillows that is my couch and lucky i'm gonna have sebastian knock on your door at five in the morning one day and just leave them there okay we'll have a blast but that's because i can handle five a that's true no he would have so much fun with you he's so funny come on be like he's had like 10 donuts he said they were okay and if you were he would tell you He'd be like, mommy said yes.
01:03:17
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And you'd be like, who's going to argue with that? exactly. I wouldn't let him eat 10 donuts. Okay, nine. So that's it. um Just wanted to, you know, pick your brain and ask some some fun questions. I like hearing and you talk because I talk way too much sometimes.
01:03:34
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No, you're good. I like hearing you talk too. End of the nightmare. End of the nightmare for tonight. But we will be back with more ridiculousness and spook nightmare history.
01:03:49
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01:04:01
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Sweet dreams. What the fuck? What fuck? Bye-bye.