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Speaker: Oh my God. We're back. What's up? Oh, God damn. How you doing?
Speaker: God damn. You had a fun event today. i had a something. That's for goddamn sure. Oh my god, dude. Will you be prepared to talk about it?
Speaker: I don't even know. I'm gonna try. Gotcha. I'll try. um oh it's weird. It's weird. I'm telling you.
Speaker: I don't know what happened. Okay. Okay. and know First of all, what did you do?
Speaker: Second of all, how long what did it take? um I bwynton got a myofascial release massage today.
Speaker: And it was really weird. Okay. um you claim to have had one before. but you didn't know what it was at the time? At least that's what it seemed like when you said that you I thought I was just getting a regular like massage or a deep tissue type massage.
Speaker: My good friend who is a massage therapist, she was also physical therapist for a while, but she quit doing physical therapy. She got into learning myofacial or whatever myofascial massage and um I had an event at work that ah like a student kind of physically assaulted me. Right. So like three years ago not recently. Yeah.
Speaker: um So like i asked her if she would be able to squeeze me in and she did that instead of what I was thinking I was getting. And I and i guess because she felt like The event was... Had you told her there was an injury you were trying to treat or i don't remember what I told her at the time. I just think I said a student attacked me. And so I feel like she probably assumed that I needed like... Like like there was a traumatic event that needed dealing with rather than like the physical like pain that I... That I went through.
Speaker: um So that's what I ended up getting. And i'm I mean... I shouldn't complain about it, but I didn't realize that that was what was happening until it was happening and I didn't want to say anything. And then um I didn't really know if it was what I needed and like if it did any good.
Speaker: Yeah. You know what I'm saying? I mean, yeah, that's the thing about it is not it's not a standard massage. Like, it's different.
Speaker: And it's, yeah it's, i I felt like i did a lot of like, reading and listening to people's experiences about myofascial release, and I still wasn't prepared.
Speaker: Mm hmm. Because it's just... It's one of those things, I guess, where you, like, just don't know what it's going to be like until you experience it.
Speaker: aha Like, people can describe things until they're blue in the face, and it's still not gonna, like... I mean, I don't know.
Speaker: At least anybody that I had, you know, whose experiences I had heard about did not... describe what it was I experienced. And then know I don't think that means that I experienced anything that was like wrong.
Speaker: It was just different. It was just,
Speaker: I feel better.
Speaker: i feel better. Like in a way that I didn't realize was possible to feel better. huh um The primary thing that i wanted help with was the like pelvic region and the low back.
Speaker: um And she knew exactly what it was that I was referring to when I was talking about it. And she worked on it pretty extensively.
Speaker: um And I think that is better too, but it's not like... perfect but i intended i like i knew it wasn't going to be the kind of thing that was just going to be like a one and done like i'm all better now yeah sure um and it's it was and still is my plan to go back and get this done a few times at least potentially like once a month or every other month or something to that effect um
Speaker: And it's based on how I feel right now, it's it's worth the money. I probably don't need a full 90 minute every time. I did 90 minutes, but that's how I standardly like that's what I usually go for with any kind of massage. Yeah. um If I'm going to do it regularly, I don't think.
Speaker: I need 90 minutes. I think 60 minutes will cut it. um I don't like, I think that it was good to do it for this time around. Cause it's been more than three years since my last massage anyway.
Speaker: um But again, this was not a standard massage. I was actually quite uncomfortable most of the time. Like in like <unk> physical discomfort.
Speaker: Yeah, and it wasn't even, like, the way that she was working my muscles that was hurting. i am not... I don't feel comfortable laying on my front.
Speaker: Oh, is that how you laid the whole time? Not the whole time. Okay. um But because she was working on my back and my hips, it was, you know, maybe two-thirds of the time. okay Okay.
Speaker: I just don't, like... it was just, it was not comfortable. And so I, that's where I'm like a little bit like, I don't exactly know what happened because I was uncomfortable and therefore just sort of my brain wouldn't stop racing because i was like, what do I do? Like, I don't, I don't feel good. Like, you know, I was trying to lay still and let her work.
Speaker: But like, I was also just like, not quite in distress, but just like, actively in discomfort yeah the whole time yeah and like couldn't relax i got you i understand what you're saying yeah and not to mention the fact that like whenever i lay face down my sinuses clog all the way up so i was just over here like trying to breathe but like because of wanting to put you know extra attention on my pelvis and my lower back, she suggested with, she suggested starting with me on my back and then turning me over and spending the majority of the time ah my front.
Speaker: And I, at the end of it, i said, probably next time let's just start on the front. Like um with me on my front, because like I just could not get comfortable. And I would rather start with that. I expressed it, but like there was nothing she could do. It's just my body. Right. No. So here's my thought.
Speaker: And like, because i I'm fairly confident when I say that they really do not want you uncomfortable. So what I think would be possible is to either ask To pile up a few pillows to lay on on your front so that you're you're not perfectly flat.
Speaker: But um or see if she has a massage chair that you can sit at that you can just lay forward on. You know what you know what those are, right? Yeah, they don't or at least they didn't have in that any in that room.
Speaker: yeah um because it like it this was like a spa this wasn't like a physical therapy place um and i don't know if they had one of those in another room but i feel like it's not super likely but regardless like the point sort of is that like I think that it it was mostly just like a, once I was on my front, I was like, okay, well now based on what she said, like, this is the rest of the time.
Speaker: And I was like, just suffering through it. yeah And like, that's unfortunate, but like, you know, so I just said like, next time I'll just start on my front.
Speaker: She can work on my hips. She probably doesn't need to spend like as much time. on them every time she could probably just do her usual like routine and then i can flip back over because it is the kind of table that has like it's like electronic and she can like elevate my knees and stuff. So like when I was on my back um and I usually need my knees like elevated because of the way that my hips hurt so bad when I lay fra flat. Same.
Speaker: Like she was able to elevate them to where I was going to be, you know, comfortable. um Like I think it would be better to start on the front than flip so that I'm way back and she can just do her usual thing.
Speaker: And I can end the massage feeling better. Yeah. But yeah, like, it was the kind of, like, it regardless, though, of that, just like, that discomfort sort of clouded my ability to to discern what else was going on. Because there was also, like, there wasn't, like, a ton of emotional release, or at least not in the way that, like, i might have expected a lot of people have described crying you know or even laughing sometimes um just like out of nowhere because of whatever is getting worked out of their body um like because it is literally where the body keeps the score that's getting worked on yeah um and whatever like
Speaker: emotions are stored in those spaces and those places in your body are what comes up when they get worked on um and like i had while i was working or while she was working on my lower back like i was like getting a little um flustered a little anxious just because of how uncomfortable i was um But also, like, I had this very distinct feeling of, like, disgust.
Speaker: And, like, I kind of have a feeling that that was something that was, like, coming up that was stored. um Like, disgust with myself. Which, like, you know, i would understand or it would make sense that it was, like, just how I was feeling because of my discomfort. if it was just like frustration, but it was like pure, like, this is fucking so like ridiculous that this is so hard for you. So like, just lay down, like, like that, that kind of mean voice that I described in our bonus episode. ah um
Speaker: But it was like, yeah, the emotion was discussed and I was like, okay, well this is like stronger than feels rational. Right. compared to like my actual discomfort right now so sort of flagged it as like maybe there's something being worked out here and then when she worked on my feet that was another interesting moment because that i actually did get like choked up and kind of shed a couple tears and like it wasn't anything to do with pain it was like it felt quite nice actually her were like working on my feet
Speaker: um because they were kind of sore. But when she was working on my feet, interestingly, like when I felt that like a little tiny bit of emotional release, um the feeling that came with it, the emotion that came with it was despair.
Speaker: oh And interestingly, it was a little bit also connected to my like physical discomfort but more so the feeling of like how much pain i have been in for so long and how like at a loss i have felt for so long about like how to get better and despair has been, I've like really pushed it down because I can't deal with it. Like when i as a Leo moon, when I experienced despair, that is the end of the world.
Speaker: That is what that feels like. And so I have like pushed that so far away because I'm like, I can't, I cannot face that. But like, that's what came up as my feet were being worked on.
Speaker: was this ah this just really intense feeling of, oh my god, I'm never going to be okay. like Which is not real, but like it's the despair feeling. It's the thing that I have been scared of confronting.
Speaker: Yeah. so like, that was another thing that i flagged internally as like, maybe. Wow. Maybe also that. um Otherwise, though, not really too much else. She worked a lot, like for a long time on my left shoulder.
Speaker: um And because she worked on my right shoulder too, but I feel like she really had to focus on my left shoulder. um And I do think that like when I carry purses or carry my work bag, it's always on my left shoulder. hu But like it's not like like I always go across body. So like the weight really gets distributed across my whole torso, even if the strap is on the left shoulder.
Speaker: it's not so much like holding it on my right shoulder and needing to hold it up. So like I clench really. That's usually what I do is just right always on the right shoulder and I'm always like, yeah. And that's, that's not what I have been doing.
Speaker: You know, I'm like, stuff's on my left shoulder, but I'm like not needing, because it's a cross body, it's not needing to be like 10 step, um,
Speaker: But regardless, she really did work on it for a while. And I didn't really feel any emotions that I could point to during that. But I definitely felt like a noticeable difference. Like she went over it several times, this one spot.
Speaker: And it was sensitive. And then she like went a little down like over my shoulder into my like upper arm. And then came back up and started working on it again. And it wasn't nearly as sensitive going over the exact same spot again.
Speaker: I was like, okay, there's a difference. There's like an immediate difference. Yeah. And it's like, it's so interesting because like she went over my whole body, you know, obviously like it and and for the most part, like there were areas where she was pushing and it was sensitive, but it wasn't like surprising. It was like areas that have felt sore consistently for me.
Speaker: um But like in general, everywhere she was going over, she wasn't pushing very hard. Yeah. There wasn't a lot of intense pressure. Right.
Speaker: It's not anything like a deep tissue. It's not even like a Swedish. It's like something entirely different. It's a lot lighter and a lot slower. um And i just don't know how to describe it other than like I feel better.
Speaker: You know, like I'm so used to like my whole body hurting all the goddamn time. Yeah. Like, no matter what I'm doing, no matter, like, like it hurt to move all the goddamn time.
Speaker: Yep. I totally understand that. Yeah. Like, especially lately. Yeah. And that's the thing is, like, I was beginning to not know what it was like to not have that constant pain.
Speaker: Mm-hmm. and Actually, I shouldn't say beginning. i was beginning to forget. like I was beginning to not be able to comprehend what it feels like to not have that constant pain.
Speaker: And that to said, but all that to be said like I know that it's not like 100% fixed right now, but like compared to how I felt earlier today or yesterday or like for the last two years, how I've been feeling or three years or however fucking long, like I feel so much better.
Speaker: Wow. And it's wild. That's fucking crazy, dude. ah no I know. know. And I was, because she wasn't pressing very hard and I wasn't immediately noticing anything other than like the emotions that I was clocking like I really a had a brief I think that was part of my like antsiness or anxiety coming up was like what if this is nothing like what if this does nothing you know right like what if this has no effect whatsoever and uh yeah and and I was
Speaker: worried for nothing for no reason and i i was i mean i i actively chose to trust the process i was like i have to trust that she knows what she's doing and this is actually so like effective in some way that like i just don't understand yet and then you know once she was done she said like you know take as much time as you need to get up and i was like okay i knew it was going to take me a while because it's hard to get up when you're like been when you've been laying down for yeah that long especially when you are ending on your front side and i was just feeling so like oh dude for for just for instance like as for you know for an example if you will i went to the chiropractor yesterday right the first time in a while yeah like maybe a couple of months or so um and it's always face down
Speaker: And then or it starts that way. And then they ask me to flip over. i literally have to slither myself off the table. Yeah. To be able to flip over because I can't I fucking can't move. It's almost impossible to like, like move my legs. yeah It's nuts. So I totally get what you're saying. Yeah, exactly. I've had the same issue of like just trying to like haul myself up and like even just turn myself on my side because when I've gone to the chiropractor in the past and like she has me on my front at first, the next thing she has me do is get on my side.
Speaker: And so every time, every fucking time, it was just such a slog trying to get from my front to my side. Mm hmm. yeah three but like this is the thing is that like i was experiencing that times like 10 yeah trying to get up at the end of this massage and like it took i had to kind of do that like i had to like wiggle to the side and like let one leg down off the table yeah and like force myself up somehow um
Speaker: And i even like stood like yeah my and my you know feet were a little bit oily still. So like I was like trying really hard not to slip. But like I even stood like with my hands braced on the massage table.
Speaker: you know fuck ass naked and my hair was like over my face and i was just like gasping for breath i was just like because it was just so hard so like move but it looks probably like i crawled out of a horror movie um Stop it. No, but for real.
Speaker: um And then I just like, I couldn't even like, you know, so make myself stand up and get dressed yet um at that moment. So I just like turned around and like sat upright on the on the massage table and just like put the blankets over like over me like not for modesty but just sort of for warmth yeah um and like comfort because I was just like I even kind of laid down the other way a little bit like on my side almost because I was just like Jesus Christ like oh my god i was so lightheaded um i was so lightheaded and my body felt so weird I was like
Speaker: I don't, I was, it was just, i was like, this has to be normal after this kind of work. But like, Jesus.
Speaker: And it like slowly dissipated and I started to feel, you know, normal and better. And I like got up and put my clothes on and I was like, huh. Crazy.
Speaker: My back isn't hurting. Wow. Wow.
Speaker: And like, it's always, it's like within 30 seconds sometimes how quickly my, my like hips, my pelvis and my back like lock up. um And it wasn't, and I really, i really, really took it slow. I like put my clothes on and then I sat back down and then I like got up and like grabbed my hair clip and then I like sat back down and I like waited for a little bit and then I like made the effort to like put my hair up and my hair clip and like i was just like god damn it all told it was like 15 minutes trying to get myself like back into the human world I feel like that's probably normal yeah I think so um yeah but then I like came out of the room
Speaker: broom and you know, spoke to her for a brief minute and then went downstairs. This is like, I feel like this is like a converted house or something that they built into a massage or like a general spa. And so like all the massage and like facial rooms are upstairs.
Speaker: And so i like went downstairs, paid and like, you know, got all set and went out to my car. And it was when I was going out to my car that I started to feel the tension and it was like that was so much longer again not it seems not long in general because you know few minutes is not long but like when you're used to like less than a minute before you start to like hurt so bad you have to like sit down again yep like that's a massive massive improvement and it's been consistently that way the rest of the day
Speaker: That's awesome. Yeah. um So I'm going back. I'm going to do it again. um I'm going to keep it up. Because like this is the other thing, too, is like who knows how long before my body just starts like naturally tensing again. um so I'm just going to keep it up and I'm, I don't know, maybe going to look into acupuncture for like you know dealing with some of the more problematic areas such as the pelvis like who knows acupuncture has this crazy reputation that i like cannot even begin to like conceive of but like i'm even though i hate needles like i'm starting to ah get past that because of how fucking desperate i've been yeah um
Speaker: So going to see. I'm going to see how things go. Maybe start doing acupuncture if possible. But otherwise, like, this is this is a start.
Speaker: We're going somewhere.
Speaker: I'm glad. I'm super glad. too. o you I'm mom. I just Googled to see what other plate like what places around here do that besides my friend. Because she opened her own place.
Speaker: And I couldn't even think of the name of it. But like I just Googled myofascial release. And like yeah there's a shit ton of places around here that are doing it. You should do it. It's crazy. i really think that you should you know try it out when you know what it is that you're doing or getting into.
Speaker: Yeah. Because i think that you could derive a lot of the same benefit. Yeah.
Speaker: Based on everything you've described about how you feel. I'm definitely going to see if she's still doing it. But yeah.
Speaker: I'm willing to bet probably. Yeah. But yeah, it's definitely different. Like I'm probably at some point I'll work in. a regular massage ah into the mix because it would be nice to sort of have that like additional pressure.
Speaker: But my fascial definitely was what I needed and I knew it was what I needed and I wish I had thought or or decided to spend the money on it earlier, but whatever.
Speaker: feels like I'm always doing things way too late, especially when it comes to my body and my health. I don't know. Way too late is better than never, you know? i mean, yes, but also, like, it's it's just this chronic problem with me where I let health issues and body, physical, like, pain issues get way too bad before I finally get help with them.
Speaker: You know? But it's also a matter of knowing, like... You know, like there's, I don't know what to do for my shit. Like my lower back stuff still hurts me. But then my chiropractor yesterday said, you know, you're changing your routine now. So it's going to take, you know, take a bit for your body to get used to the changes and Yeah.
Speaker: That, but that it should. And I'm thinking, okay, well that's probably true. Like, I mean, like, remember when we go to Anaharas and like, I remember specifically a couple of years ago, like it was two years ago or the year, even the year before that, like maybe the first two times we went. Um,
Speaker: It took a day or or a a day or two for me to get used to walking around all over the place there. By the second, third day, third, fourth day, whatever, I was like walking...
Speaker: much easier and with much less pain. It was like that fast. How, yeah you know, because there's literally no other way to get around there. You have to walk. And so it was like my body adapted to it really quick. Now I feel like last year it didn't quite as fast, but that's because I'm getting older too. So every year that goes by is another year that getting older. So my body maybe isn't as adapting, it isn't adapting as fast as it Yeah. was I definitely, it every time we've gone to Anaharas, I have not adapted to the need to walk and everywhere.
Speaker: Like my body has not adjusted. Right. And i'm all I'm saying is that it just, it did enough to notice it for me. And that even after I got home the first couple of days of being home, i would,
Speaker: I'd still noticed the improvement and then it went right back ah down again because I was back to being sedentary again, you know? Yeah. Well now you're not. So now one with your, with your new job, I'm walking in the halls of that school, like yeah pretty frequently. And that's not even, you know, that's not even the outside stuff I was talking about when we had to walk out to the park.
Speaker: Right. Right. You know, we did walk out to the park today and it wasn't terrible. Yeah. yeah I was a little bit hurting you know by the time we got out there, by the time I could sit down on the park bench and the whatnot. But it's it's I'm sure it's going to be an improvement, like you know a little bit better every day. so Yeah, yeah.
Speaker: And it's my intention to... get up and move more and especially now that I feel like I actually can because that's like part of the problem is I when I have been in as much pain as I've been in not even only my pelvis and lower back but like my whole body hurting the way that it has it's like that much harder than for me to decide to get up and do anything yeah and so like it's gonna take a lot of effort but like i have every intention of like trying to get up more frequently or at least stay up and like you know move around and do things and go out and like walk and just try to
Speaker: you know, not let it slip back into that bad of a place. um But it's just, yeah it's just going to take work.
Speaker: But all things considered, like, I just, I didn't know. i didn't know what was going change. I didn't know how it was going to feel. And i didn't know what it felt like to feel this good.
Speaker: i couldn't remember.
Speaker: I'm just glad you feel good. I'm just glad you feel something that things so change and that it's better. Yeah. Yeah. So that's it. I don't know.
Speaker: i i we didn't really have a topic aside from talking about this and I'm glad you were able to.
Speaker: the party keeps the score and i wish it would stop it's not necessary yeah ah but it's it's true i'm and i'm very interested to see because i imagine that next time i go it's entirely possible that areas where I wasn't feeling anything like with regards to emotion might kick up something different next time.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Cause like deeper sheet digs. Yeah. Or shit will start coming out. the i um cause it's interesting. i like, I would have expected depression sadness anxiety like a lot of that but those i guess are the the feelings and the emotions that i do express
Speaker: i don't express my disgust and i don't express my despair and those the two that showed up ain't that something yeah What do you know? Yeah.
Speaker: Wow. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker: I am curious if you can sort of describe what the massage is actually like physically. What is she doing specifically?
Speaker: i mean, it's like I said, light and slow. It's just not pressure in one spot. it's just But it's not even not even very intense pressure in one spot. She does hold it.
Speaker: But it's like... it's It's not even like she's stationary for like an entire minute but over the or or two minutes or whatever, however long. like It's that she goes back over and holds it for like you know maybe 10 seconds each time over the course of like two minutes. But she'll like she'll like pass her thumb or whichever part of her hand is doing the you know the majority of the work um over that spot and hold it.
Speaker: and then move on and then pass back over and hold it and then move on. um And, but like, you know, yeah, going back to the same spot over and over again and again, not doing intense pressure, but just enough pressure to feel something and holding it to feel something. you know You know, this is the weirdest thing. i
Speaker: went to a phys, okay. i've I've seen a number of different physical therapists over the years with yeah place that I go to and they all have their own like method, if you will, their own way of doing physical therapy. And there was one guy that I went to that basically was doing that. And I didn't realize that that's what it was until just now.
Speaker: o But I had had my friend who did massage do that type of massage. And I, you know, knew that that's what it was. But I didn't think about this guy until just now where I i kind of didn't feel like I was getting anything out of it again. Right. So I didn't make more treatments. Because you didn't know what you were doing. Yeah. I'm pretty sure that's what he was doing.
Speaker: Because I was thinking, how is this supposed to be effective? Because he's hardly pushing and he's yeah staying in one spot. Like he's staying in one spot for like a few seconds and then he's going and moving to another spot and staying there for a few seconds. And it's like, this is weird because normally with my therapist's They would dig in as hard as they could and they would be like, you know, rubbing really hard, you know? Well, that's, that's the thing is I always had the feeling that deep tissue was the only thing that I could derive any benefit from. Right.
Speaker: Always. Because my body was a fucking brick wall. Yeah. Always. mine Mine mostly is too. Yes. And like, it was in honestly learning From motherfucking goddamn TikTok. Hearing someone explain, like it was probably, i think it was like a physical therapist of some kind.
Speaker: But hearing this guy explain, like, that deep tissue really only serves to show your body that it's in danger because of how forceful the pressure is. Mm-hmm.
Speaker: And it doesn't do anything to help you be able to relax and get out of, like, fight or flight. Okay. And I was like, goddammit. Yeah. But do whatever went wrong along. What the fuck?
Speaker: Yeah. was like, why is it even offered then? But, like, i don't know. i For athletes that probably do actually need that kind of work, I guess it makes sense. And whatever. but like for other people who don't have tons of trauma. Yeah.
Speaker: Right, right. That's also true. um But like, yeah, I'm not sure if I'll ever get a deep tissue again. i'm Clearly, it's not what I needed. But it's like, if I'm going to do another massage that's like a regular massage, I'll stick to what they call Swedish, you know. um And I'm curious, um'll I'll be very curious to see how much better that feels.
Speaker: because I can't remember the last time that I didn't specifically request intense pressure. You know? okay um Dude. What? The one guy I saw for my arthritic thumb over the summer or like spring, summer time frame, he was like gentle.
Speaker: And he massaged a lot. He massaged, you know, and I was just like, you know, this is so relaxing. I'm like, you're the only physical therapist that I've seen for this issue who has done just like a general massage that was just relaxing.
Speaker: h And I just, I didn't think about that. Like, like I said earlier until now, start thinking like, yeah, maybe that's what I need too, is more of a gentle massage rather than fight and tissue massages, you know?
Speaker: Yeah. yeah um because the more you can relax the more benefit you actually get from it and when you're getting deep tissue you don't really relax that well right yeah you know and only after mentally still think i still think that the first thing to do is get myofascial massage release massage on purpose yeah um and then afterward you might actually see like a lot of good uh results from a swedish um but yeah it's just so interesting because like yeah she was not pressing very hard over my entire body which like i said you know sort of had alarm bells going in my brain like is this actually going to do anything um and then i wasn't in pain
Speaker: Somehow. You know? Like, what the fuck? And i um When I got home, i laid down on my bed for like half an hour.
Speaker: And I was just like... This is so strange because I've, I, lately especially, but like over the course of the last couple of years, pretty consistently i have had a hard time feeling comfortable in any position. Even like fully reclined.
Speaker: And like that's just because like my body has just been in pain. Like constantly. But I laid down and I was like, don't, I don't feel anything.
Speaker: I feel nothing. And then I like sort of like turned, oh not turned all the way over, but I like moved my body in a way and I like lifted my top leg because I was ah kind of on my side, lifted my top leg and like drew my knee in a circle several times. And I was like, I couldn't do this before.
Speaker: Like I couldn't like comfortably it It felt like I was like working against like 10 times the regular earth gravity all the time trying to like move around in bed, you know, rolling from one side to the other. Yeah.
Speaker: It just felt like this Herculean effort was required because of how sore and like tired and just tense I was.
Speaker: And like the thought of just like moving my leg just to fucking move my leg. Unheard of. Never happened. would never I could never, like unless a movement was absolutely necessary, I wasn't bothering.
Speaker: Because of how much pain I was in.
Speaker: When are you going to go back? I'm thinking I'll schedule another appointment for sometime during the week before I start working up again. yeah.
Speaker: yeah Cool. And then plan on continuing to go back maybe once a month for now. Yeah. We'll see. We'll see what else changes. i this is really, you know, it's only been like five hours technically since it,
Speaker: since the massage was over and I was trying to like peel myself off the table. um and So like, I really i' curious to see what else is notable about how I feel. now know This has been one nice long drawn out commercial for biofascial release. And that's awesome.
Speaker: And I love that because Maybe more people hearing about this and knowing about this would be like helpful for, you know, other people. So yeah, maybe obviously only if you need it, this is not something that I'm just going to recommend to fucking anybody willy nilly. Right. um It is like, I think I set up at the front of this whole thing. if this is not the kind of massage that you do to go and but like have a nice time.
Speaker: it seems boring it's like it's either boring or it's like uncomfortable in physical and emotional ways like yeah you know because there are there were parts that did physically hurt like i said it wasn't like areas that were totally surprising because there were areas that i like usually have felt like soreness pretty consistently yeah um but like
Speaker: just it's yeah like it's it's for people with trauma with with any kind of like you know big t trauma little t trauma ptsd cptsd what have you um and also people who are physically fucking locked up yeah yeah but do your research yeah Yeah. Do so much fucking research, but this could be something that benefits people who fit those, those parameters. So yeah.
Speaker: And, and like, it's like I said, this is something that probably I needed to do like so goddamn long ago, like two, three years ago, at least.
Speaker: So do you think that if whoever's listening right now went on Tik TOK and just started randomly looking up my official release like TikTok videos that they would be able to get pretty fairly well educated about it? They would certainly get a lot of people who have experienced it or are working on it because there are like techniques to do like self-release you know like using lacrosse balls that are those like really hard rubber balls or like other
Speaker: various like tools and techniques to like work on things yourself. I am not the kind of person who feels confident doing that kind of thing and knowing that I'm doing the right thing and having any sort of real positive effect um so that's why i was like i'm going to a professional i don't care how much it costs at this point yeah um so but they would at least learn about what it is and how it works yeah how it helps
Speaker: Yeah, they would. ah They would do that. And also could just Google it and don't use AI. Don't use ChatGPT. Don't use the Google like...
Speaker: ah assist whatever the fuck the google thing is gemini whatever don't use ai like there's the summary and the summary is fine but go check your sources like go you know read actual like scientific or medical journals like you know yeah read actual sources and not artificial intelligence um But you know there are lots and lots and lots of physical therapists on TikTok who are there both talking about myofascial release and also other kinds of like you know body work and demonstrating techniques that you can try at home if you're ever the kind of person that feels comfortable attempting those kinds of things. Yeah. um
Speaker: But also... God, the way that like, I wish that every industry or at least most industries of professionals worked the way that like lawyers work where like a lawyer legally has to say I am not your lawyer before talking about like.
Speaker: Yeah. To do with like legal advice. And they're like, I am not your lawyer and this is not my advice. And then they give you information. But like, I wish that every industry would do that because there are lots of physical therapists on TikTok. They are not your physical therapists. They're not working on your body. They're not touching you. They are not looking at you. They can't tell you what is wrong with you. They can only give you information and you have to be super, super self-aware about what it is you're experiencing and do your best to connect the logic dots hu ah as to like what it is that could be medically, physically wrong with you. Right.
Speaker: But the best thing to do is actually go see a physical therapist or a massage therapist um or any sort of medical doctor and be like, these are the things I'm experiencing. It's this kind of pain. It's in these areas. It's when this happens, when I do this, blah, blah, blah, bla blah.
Speaker: Whatever information and, you know, get a real professional's opinion in addition to whatever research you feel capable of doing. Real research, again, not intelligent not artificial intelligence. Right.
Speaker: um But that is my recommendation to anybody listening who feels like maybe this is something to explore. Yay. So.
Speaker: agree. Also, don't listen to us. We're not professionals. And this is not medical advice. silly safe you're right you're right um yeah but anywho that is that i guess and yeah it's good i did the right thing i chose the right thing to do um and i'm gonna keep doing it and we'll see yeah we'll see because like in all likelihood and i don't want to be like a big old bummer
Speaker: by saying this but like in all likelihood you know the aches are going to come back i don't know how long it'll take but they probably will um i'm going to do what i can i mean that's only logical and normal right that that would happen anyway right which is why you know i have every intention of scheduling another you know appointment and going back and having this done again and maybe seeing even better improvement after the next time. We'll see. um
Speaker: But for now, like, like, damn, you know? So, yeah. Anyway, I've been rambling. yeah you have not been rambling. should be You're sharing and that's perfectly fine. I do have i have one little tidbit to share.
Speaker: yeah um Please do. Please. I've been talking way too much. Yeah. so I going to go see the Indigo Girls in concert tomorrow night with my bestie.
Speaker: Oh my god. Yeah. Wait, when did you plan that? um I remember. Bought the tickets a couple of months ago. o So i I mentioned it about, you know, about wanting to go. and then my friend was like, get the tickets. I'll pay for them for your birthday. It'll be like like an early birthday present. ah I was like, sweet.
Speaker: And so the reason why i i guess like, because I've never been a humongous Indigo Girls fan at all, but just, like, I think a year ago, like, you know, shortly of before Anahata's last year, one of the songs just started, like, really hitting home, striking a nerve, if you will. Yeah. um That is so much, like,
Speaker: everything I have been learning about and thinking about ever since I started my witchy journey and, um, you know, regarding reincarnation and stuff like that. Right. I remember you sharing that song. Yeah.
Speaker: It's just, it's a cute, you know, first of all, I love, ah love the way these two women sing together. they have ah like a lovely little harmonies together yeah and their voices are like, Almost, I'd say, very similar, button but they sound so good together. And then um the adorable harmonies and whatnot. And then the song is Galileo. So yeah i remember if you want to just tell them to the people yeah to look it up, listen to it. ah
Speaker: Anyway, it's just like... The part that always gets me. Give me a second because I'm going to look this up because I don't want to get it wrong. The lyrics. Yeah, the lyrics.
Speaker: Okay, so like the chorus part. hu How long till my soul gets it right? Can any human being ever reach that kind of light? I call on the resting soul of Galileo, king of night vision, king of insight.
Speaker: And then... there's There's a part that I can't think of right now that always jumps out at me. and But it's, I don't know, that specifically that chorus is always just like, I get chills. How long till my soul gets it right? Like, how many times do I have to be reincarnated before yeah finally figure it out, you know? Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
Speaker: Oh, yeah that's the part. Then there's at the end of one of the verses, it says, you know me, I take everything so seriously. If we wait for the time to let all souls get it right.
Speaker: then at least I know there'll be no nuclear annihilation in my lifetime. I'm still not right. And just the way she ends that particular part where she's like, I'm still not right. It's like, she's laughing about it. Like the way she's it. And it just, that's the part that I always just makes me laugh because I'm like, I totally get it. yeah I get you. I get you.
Speaker: So I'm excited. But like, it's funny, because back when I was in college, in the early to mid ninety s there was a lady in my dorm, who was the first female I had ever seen.
Speaker: and I would say lady, she's like, she was a student, but she was a couple years older than me, probably. um Who did not shave her legs. And that blew my mind because I did not know women didn't shave their legs. And she listened to the Indigo Girls. And i was just like a bona fide 90s feminist.
Speaker: More than likely a lesbian, but I don't know that for sure um And that's cool. Like, whatever. But I was that was my first exposure to a true hippie, like feminist type woman. And I, I just know I don't think I'll ever forget her. I just don't remember her name. She really left her impression. Yeah. Yeah, I get it. She liked them. And I didn't really know them or their music. I might have heard maybe a song or two at the time. hmm.
Speaker: but never really thought about it like you know that much but i just know like over the years if i'd heard a song of theirs here and there i always appreciated the harmonies and then i started to kind of hear the lyrics and then um just in the last handful of years i started like paying way more attention to them but i still don't know very much of their music.
Speaker: I like there's three songs or four songs maybe that I can tell you like I know almost all the lyrics to and that's it. And like I didn't like buy any albums. I didn't listen to entire albums on Spotify or any of that. i probably should. But I mean, I just don't really care. I just want to go to see them live because as I'm getting older, I know like there are so many musicians out there that are getting older and a lot of them are either retiring or dying. And I don't want to lose the opportunity to see them before they are no longer around. Yeah. so yeah Well, here's what I can say is that I have um gotten into a lot of artists because I saw them play live. And so, like, I think, I mean, like, obviously you're already into them, otherwise you wouldn't have even even decided to, like, go. but like, I think that this is your opportunity to, like, get all the way into them. And, and like, it's interesting, too, because, like, I find... I love live music and I love like, i there's just, it's been a rare,
Speaker: um time or a rare instance where I've heard a live performance and thought like this sucks, you know, like I, I've tended to really enjoy live performances equally, if not sometimes more than the studio recordings of the same songs. And so like I will get into and like listen to music after having seen a band live for the first time. I, to be honest, really never listened to Nine Inch Nails until after I saw them in concert.
Speaker: You mean like the most recent? No, no. Back in 2014. Oh, okay. Okay. I saw them because i bought tickets to their show because Soundgarden was opening for them. And so I wanted to go see Soundgarden. And I was like, I might as well stay for Nine Inch Nails. They seem somewhat up my alley, probably. And then I fucking loved them. Oh, my God.
Speaker: Yeah. so love them like god I, oh my god. No, but for real, that's what I mean. like That is hilarious. And I mean, like, I liked Nine Inch Nails. Like, I liked anything I had heard, but I'd never, like, taken the time to actually, like, go out of my way to listen to any of their stuff.
Speaker: Like, I had, like, one song that I liked that, you know, was at the end of, I think it's called Last? It was at the end of... the movie cabin in the woods, ah which is like a horror movie, um, very bizarre movie with a very crazy ending. And then this song plays during the credits. And I was like, oh okay. I like this vibe. So I like, i knew that song and I knew, um
Speaker: The entirety of the soundtrack for The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo, which, you know, Trent Reznor and Atticus Ross did together. Yeah. um Fucking loved that shit. And so i was like, I think I won't have a bad time.
Speaker: Yeah. To stay and listen to them. Yeah. And I did. And I was just like, oh. Yeah. They're really fucking good. This is for me. Yeah, dude. I know. i And like pretty Pretty Hate Machine was the album that was out when I was at, you know, end of my high school career.
Speaker: And then when I went into college, Downward Spiral came out and i bought that CD. I didn't own Pretty Hate Machine prior to that.
Speaker: And and So the downward spiral was like, whoa, you know. And then I saw them in concert, you know, like a year or two after that.
Speaker: um Yeah, that was awesome. Yeah. But. It was pretty fun. it continues to be fun, but it was one of the most fun things about the time that we spent initially getting to know each other was comparing music tastes and interests.
Speaker: And especially also with my bio dad, ah because, you know, he had seen or at least you know at the time had seen nine inch nails four times in concert m and i was like okay that makes perfect sense well you know what's really funny though he's more of like just a rocker or metal head yeah um i like a lot of different alternative genres oh yeah yeah and like i like that's that i liked industrial and i liked old school you know
Speaker: Yeah. Whatever. But it's funny because when we were first dating, when we were dating in high school, yeah he was a big Guns N' Roses fan. And that was his like favorite band. I love Guns N' and Roses, man. Yeah. and i yeah i This is the thing is I've gotten it from both of you guys because I like almost every genre of rock I've ever heard.
Speaker: ah For real. Yeah. Yeah. Me too. I'm not into speed metal, but I can appreciate it somewhat. some i can yeah i can appreciate There's a lot of where I'm just like, I i can appreciate the ah the art. Yeah. But yeah like but there's... you know i I was reminded of grunge recently, which I don't know why I had to be reminded of grunge because Alice in Chains is one of my favorite bands of all time. Yeah. but But right before I transitioned into alternative, yeah was into grunge. That was my, ah I was Pearl Jam, like Alice in Chains, and um sound garden yeah yeah all those yeah all those west coast i am no hugely into grunge i'm hugely into punk especially pop punk even pop punk of the two thousand you know blink green day what have you um
Speaker: And i also had, you know, a big old hair metal phase. And honestly, that was primarily by is sparked by my um interest in Kat Von D. You know, so I got into, you know, Guns N' Roses and I got into Motley Crue and, you know, like all of those. And, you know, so I've had my phases with a lot of different stuff. before i was into grunge i was into hair bands like fucking poison oh my god and um warrant like i mean like i kept trying to think of like the yeah motley crew i guess to a degree yeah well yeah like and but i also did like oh my god wasn't loving this oh i'm a huge acdc fan for But I did also like Guns N' Roses. 14 years back in black has been my sound, my ringtone on my phone.
Speaker: Oh my God. That's hilarious. Yeah. It's never changed and it never will. um Yeah. And then like also, God, the like, the like hippie rock like 70s rock and like the you know um
Speaker: leftist communist rock the only thing i can think of is credence clearwater okay but like i i was uh you know i also had like a huge phase of like ccr and ah fucking kansas and i love chicago hate to admit it i love chicago and foreigner in boston yeah yes i love boston um and you know it as well as like um the little lighter stuff like bob dylan and shit but um simon and garfunkel
Speaker: They're another that i the harmonizing is amazing. Yeah, yeah. But yeah, like it's the thing is like I have I have taken my tastes from both of y'all and all of it makes sense and I love it.
Speaker: Awesome. And that is where we must leave you, our friends. Go listen to some kick ass music. Hell yeah. Go listen to Back in Black.
Speaker: All right. Thank you so much, you guys. um As a ah little heads up. For the next Monday after this episode is released, that will be, I believe, September That's the Monday after Anahata's we are not going to have an episode just because of the travel required. I'm not going to be available. And Christina's not going to record an episode by herself. So probably not. but um So we're just going to have to take a break on Monday, September twenty eight But we will be back. Hold on. Let me open my calendar.
Speaker: We'll be back again. on Monday, October 5th. And that, I believe, is going to be our Anahatas recap, and we're going to have a special guest. Yay! We're go keep a surprise for now, but we're bringing a special guest to talk about Anahatas with us again this year. We didn't get to do that last year, but...
Speaker: back in 2024 it was so fun having sierra so i'm really looking forward to having another person join and talk about the experience uh with us and uh yeah so we won't see you guys next week but we will see you in two weeks and in the meantime and in between time please subscribe to our patreon because you'll get all the content you could ever hope to have over there yeah and uh otherwise stay cool stay chill Enjoy the fall.
Speaker: Welcome to fall. That's so crazy. Fall is happening. Fall is upon us. Yep. ah We are ready. All right. We love you guys. We're so grateful for you. Thank you for being here.
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