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#004 3-0 defeat first game of the season- What went wrong?
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Matt and Kieran discuss the opening weekend fixture, what went wrong, what can we change and what's in store next week.
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Transcript
Introduction and New Member
00:00:10
officialgspn
Hello and welcome to another Everton podcast, part of GSPN. Everton podcast every day. You're listening to Matt. We are listening. We are see we all listening to Matt. I'm listening to Matt. It is my first host of the show. You'd usually be listening to Johnny, but I think Johnny and Gus are still both recovering from the weekend. Today we're joined by Kieran, who is new to the Everton team. How are we doing Kieran?
00:00:35
Kieran
I'm doing well, I mean, well as I can be after the result on Saturday, but I'm glad to be here.
00:00:40
officialgspn
Don't start. But yeah, we're joined by Kieran. We've got some new some new blood into into the team. So I thought before we dive into what happened, why it happened, and what can we do next. I'm just going to ask you why you're an Everton fan and just a couple of games that you remember from from being an Everton fan so far.
00:00:59
Kieran
I think if I had a pound for every time someone asked me why I'm an Everton fan, I'd be rich by now. But obviously, obviously, I'm not a scout, so everyone kicks off about not being scouts and supporting.
Everton Fandom and Memories
00:01:09
Kieran
But ah pretty much had family from Liverpool, and it's just all I've known, really. I mean, being a baby bit to where I am now, it's all been Everton. and Fondest moments? Oh, God. There's 23 years I've been here. There's not been many, but probably...
00:01:26
Kieran
Louis Sahar's goal in the FA Cup final, 25 seconds in, brilliant.
00:01:30
officialgspn
That was a moment, wasn't it? That was a moment.
00:01:32
Kieran
Jagellka's winning penalty, 2009 FA Cup semi-final gets united. um Romelu Lukaku's goal gets Chelsea.
00:01:40
officialgspn
Oh, what a go, what a go.
00:01:41
Kieran
i'm just I'm just listing memories that are just making me sad. And then, yeah, and we'll speak about probably the lowest moments of my time supporting.
00:01:44
officialgspn
From about 15 years ago, yeah.
00:01:51
Kieran
I probably won't name them all because this podcast will go on for a couple days. and But just think for the past couple of seasons, it's just been...
00:02:01
officialgspn
Yeah, I think it was since.
Managerial Changes and Atmosphere
00:02:05
officialgspn
I think Marco Silva had a a decent start. And then it went downhill from there.
00:02:07
Kieran
Yep.
00:02:08
officialgspn
Was it a Samuel O'Dyce? We got after that before it.
00:02:10
Kieran
Yep.
00:02:11
officialgspn
And then we had Benitez, then Lampard, and then Dyche.
00:02:16
Kieran
You're forgetting the ah best one out of the lot.
00:02:16
officialgspn
And then Dyche.
00:02:19
Kieran
You're forgetting Ancelotti.
00:02:20
officialgspn
Do you know what? that That just seems like a different memory.
00:02:22
Kieran
How could you forget him?
00:02:25
officialgspn
It was probably no no fans and and the fact that
00:02:29
Kieran
Yeah, that's fair.
00:02:29
officialgspn
No, let's never forget Carlo.
00:02:32
Kieran
yeah
00:02:32
officialgspn
But no, like you said, obviously you might not tell, but I'm not a scouser either. So I think you're closer to a scouser than I am.
00:02:36
Kieran
Yeah.
00:02:39
officialgspn
But don't berate us in the comments.
00:02:39
Kieran
Thank you very much.
00:02:41
officialgspn
Do not berate us. But no, it's nice to have you on. It's nice to have someone else to speak about the, I'll call it a weekend. So you were at the game, weren't you?
00:02:52
officialgspn
How was it from sitting there watching it?
00:02:56
Kieran
Unfortunately, I was, yeah. I mean, at the start of the game, they were unbelievable. They asked me back. I mean, crowds, Unreal, Goodison Park, the the last ever opening to a Premier League season at Goodison Park. It was just everything you expected it to be. and um I mean, 15 minutes after kickoff, then the old Goodison Park of latter ends of the past couple of seasons returned.
00:03:22
Kieran
Yeah, the the first 15 minutes, I'll always cherish. They're unbelievable. But after that, I just want to forget as soon as possible.
00:03:31
officialgspn
Because we started off bright, didn't we? we It was the first 20 we were decent.
00:03:33
Kieran
Oh, incredible.
00:03:36
Kieran
Yeah.
00:03:36
officialgspn
it was like It was a carbon copy of of last season at Fulham, I think it was. We start off well, create some chances, and then and then it just goes downhill from there. So it was a decent atmosphere to start with then, at least.
00:03:47
Kieran
Oh, i think so like incredible. Goosebumps as soon as you walk in. just everything Everything that Goodison Park's been made out to be since the beginning of Goodison Park. It had the feisty atmosphere.
00:03:58
Kieran
The fans were just eager for the match to start rather than the latter our end to the past couple of seasons. It was just everything you'd want Goodison Park to be. But like I said, it just the beginning of the match was far better than the actual match.
00:04:12
officialgspn
It never, it never usually is better at doing the actual, but that's it.
00:04:14
Kieran
Yeah.
00:04:16
officialgspn
And in the way that the, the last season finished, there was, dare I say, optimism going into the new
Season Optimism and Challenges
00:04:21
officialgspn
season, new, new signings there as well.
00:04:21
Kieran
Yeah.
00:04:23
officialgspn
And I, I for one thought we, as probably people heard on the last podcast, I thought we trounced Brighton, but, um, that was probably biased taking, taking, taking the way there.
00:04:29
Kieran
Yeah.
00:04:33
officialgspn
Um,
00:04:34
Kieran
No, I'd agree. I'd agree. um I mean, before the match, I'll say, well, what I mean, Bratton's a good team, no disrespect. But the signings that we made, I mean,
00:04:39
officialgspn
Yeah.
00:04:43
Kieran
If you take away the point deduction last season, Daish had a really good season points-wise. finished I think we could have finished like 13th on the points we finished on, which were really good.
00:04:49
officialgspn
Yeah.
00:04:51
Kieran
and So I fought this season. Now I'm very um optimistic. I need to learn not to be optimistic as an Everton fan. I really do need to learn, but I can't help myself. But yeah, I don't blame you. I have the exact same with the Brighton game.
00:05:03
officialgspn
Yeah, I mean, it started off decent, then I think their first first proper attack was a counter attack. That minter that I, but we were meant to sign, weren't we?
00:05:13
Kieran
Yeah, we were, yeah.
00:05:15
officialgspn
He just went past the mick link like he wasn't there and scored the first goal. um And what was the atmosphere like after they scored? Was it just the classic silence after they scored?
00:05:26
officialgspn
A bit of booing or did that not start until Holgate came on?
00:05:28
Kieran
No, that did' that didn't start. and It was it yeah went silent, obviously. We weren't expecting it, because before that goal, I don't think they even got into our half at that point. They were so pinned back, it were unbelievable. They couldn't pass out from their back.
00:05:43
Kieran
And then that goal just come out and absolutely no win. I think it was shock more than disappointment, which is surprising. like It was a complete shock to scored. And then we started to pick up the pace a little bit. We started attacking. They looked like to sit back on a 1-0 lead, and we started causing threats. And then the next thing you know, 2-0. And then, yeah, that's when it sinks in the evidence back.
00:06:07
officialgspn
yeah And then there was a there was a penalty shell and there was a whole VAR controversy about it, wasn't there?
00:06:15
Kieran
Yeah, so I couldn't exactly see from where I was at. But the VAR, obviously, it were a penalty and it looked like a penalty. The stone wall, it looked like it. And and then referee got called over to VAR. We didn't know too much about it. Penalty got called off. We were like, it is what it is. It's referee, but it looked like a penalty from our end. Looking on social media after the game, you see people from other perspectives of the ground actually filming the referee going over to the VAR.
00:06:42
Kieran
and the VAR screen actually wasn't showing any of the footage it would just stuck on the word VAR and it never changed so I mean that's caused a lot of controversy but yeah still think it's a penalty yeah
00:06:55
officialgspn
I mean, yeah, I mean, from, from what I saw, Calvert Lewin has his back to de Dunk, Dunk sliding in and takes his foot out. If it hadn't been given in the first instance, fair enough.
00:07:06
officialgspn
It wasn't a, I didn't think it was a stone waller, but then, yeah, you're right. There was social media posts out there that saw just, was it Hooper?
00:07:15
Kieran
Yeah.
00:07:15
officialgspn
I can't remember, it wasn't what the referee was called, but it,
00:07:17
Kieran
ah but I believe so. I'm awful with names. I remember the bad ones, but...
00:07:19
officialgspn
and They're all the same. Yeah.
00:07:22
Kieran
Yeah.
00:07:22
officialgspn
But he was staring at he was staring at that VAR screen that just had the the loading screen out before. there was no There was no video on there. There was people saying that there was perhaps a second screen that he was looking at.
00:07:29
Kieran
yeah
00:07:32
officialgspn
But from what, from yeah like you said, from what I saw, there was he wasn't looking at it. And I was then looking at the VAR. This isn't a VAR rant.
00:07:40
Kieran
It could be, but we'd go on for hours.
00:07:40
officialgspn
bri brian probably did Brian probably did beat it as fair and square, but the VAR people on in the year of the referee aren't meant to make the decision, so I'm wondering how how on earth they've been able to overturn that without the referee seeing it.
00:07:44
Kieran
Yeah.
00:07:54
officialgspn
Maybe he did see it, but firstly, what I saw it was it shouldn't have been overturned, and secondly, if he hasn't got to see it, then he shouldn't be able to overturn it anyway.
00:08:03
Kieran
Yeah, I think there'd be no complaint like you said. I don't think there'd be any complaints if the referee didn't give it then. But for for ah people in the VAR to actually overturn it and the referee to change his mind, it's got to be a clear and obvious error, which I don't believe it we're nowhere near.
00:08:19
officialgspn
No, it wasn't.
00:08:19
Kieran
But I guess he...
00:08:21
officialgspn
But that's the classic Everton storyline, isn't it?
Controversial Decisions and Critiques
00:08:23
Kieran
Oh, 100%.
00:08:23
officialgspn
um Yeah, and then, so then penalty and then there was the Ashley Young, every three game red card that we're expected to see.
00:08:23
Kieran
We are so back.
00:08:32
officialgspn
Was it was it a red in your opinion?
00:08:34
Kieran
Yeah, a it's just, watching it, obviously seeing it live in action, eight you think, oh, it's a stupid error, but then you watch it even more and just on YouTube videos and seeing the clips and stuff like that, you just think a professional footballer of his experience that he's had making that kind of mistake and then giving away the red card would just, it baffles me how we're still a professional footballer and how we still get into our starting 11, but
00:08:35
officialgspn
Yeah.
00:09:03
Kieran
You could say that for a lot of players in our team.
00:09:05
officialgspn
It was, it's recruitment, isn't it? I was, I was reading Toffee Web today and they were kind of the Everton fans were seeing how Liverpool have dealt with it. When they had that Conor Bradley that's come in, played in the the FA Cup final, they've made steps in advance to make sure that if Trent got injured that they had cover and we've got no cover, but I think Dixon who's been shouted by Everton fans to start.
00:09:25
Kieran
Yeah.
00:09:27
officialgspn
And that's kind of leading on to the next question. Who who does start right back for the Spurs game now?
00:09:34
Kieran
I mean, touch wood, please not Mason Hallgate. He will have he will have an absolute shocker.
00:09:39
officialgspn
I think it will be.
00:09:42
Kieran
And I'm not I'm not slating him from his past experience, like past experience at Everton in his time at Southampton. I'm just going to pretend he's a complete new player because that's the other chance I'd be able to watch him play football.
00:09:54
Kieran
But coming in right back in an unnatural position for him against a Tottenham team, Humming's son, whoever else are playing in the front three, he's going to have to deal with that.
00:10:00
officialgspn
We're charlising perhaps.
00:10:03
Kieran
but yeah but Possibly. I mean, it wouldn't surprise me with an honest scoring when we lose 3-0.
00:10:07
officialgspn
Yeah.
00:10:08
Kieran
And then Rich Hollis and score the week after against us would be just, it would complete us. But I think we're just going to have to turn to our academies and art put some faith in them because It's baffled me why we've not, I mean, I could go on a rant about this as well, how we've not really used our ah academy system as we don't use them no more.
00:10:29
Kieran
We've released a couple of players I thought were decent players that could have gone into the first team, but we've got no choice. I would rather give 90 minutes to a player that's playing regular under 21s, under 18s football than Mason Hall get right back up.
00:10:44
Kieran
Even if Ashley Young wasn't red carded, I'd rather give um under 21s, under 18s a chance.
00:10:47
officialgspn
Yeah.
00:10:51
officialgspn
I mean, it's Holgate barely impressed with Sheffield. He was sent off in his first game, wasn't he? I mean, the the argument is, would you rather save face of Dixon perhaps who may come in, hasn't played any Premier League football and you're asking him to play against potentially Son, would it be more damaging to perhaps have him have a bad game and lose confidence or play Holgate who we know doesn't doesn't perform and hasn't performed since early count Carlo Ancelotti?
00:10:56
Kieran
yeah I think personally I'd still start Dixon or just anyone besides Hallgate.
00:11:25
Kieran
I know that obviously it's a hard game to chuck them under, but if they're going to show quality, then you've got to give them a chance regardless of who we're coming up against. I remember Ben Godfrey when we first signed him, they got put into right back against Liverpool after it.
00:11:38
Kieran
You've just got to give them chances. I mean, I just rather give a chance to a player that we've not seen in our starting 11 or in our team rather than Miss Noggett who has had some waffle seasons at us and other clubs.
00:11:45
officialgspn
yeah
00:11:52
officialgspn
Yeah. And it's whether it's whether or not dice rolls the dice. I personally can't see him starting a young player.
00:12:00
Kieran
No.
00:12:01
officialgspn
He was very reluctant to start Jared Brantthwaite last season. It took Keene to, it with the other podcasts, we have been slating Michael Keene.
00:12:04
Kieran
Yep.
00:12:08
officialgspn
He's a, he's a, he's a person. He tries, try I'm sure he does try his best, but at the end of the day, he he's a professional that hasn't been getting to the standards that we expect to see.
00:12:13
Kieran
Yep.
00:12:17
officialgspn
And it took deyshe for it took him having some some really terrible games to start Brent, where he ended up being one of the, well, all the best player of the season. It's whether or not he'll do that. And the next question probably is, is Daish under pressure now?
Tactics and Predictions
00:12:32
Kieran
i I have very strong opinions on dice.
00:12:33
officialgspn
It's early.
00:12:34
Kieran
Yeah, I have very strong opinions on dice. yeah i I think some, I wouldn't say it's under pressure yet, just with it being a new season.
00:12:46
Kieran
um The latter end of last season doesn't really help how it started this season. and But I mean, I've said, for the people that are just saying this is just a season up, nobody move on from here, it's just a tester.
00:12:58
Kieran
This sets, to me, the start of the season sets us up for the rest of the season. And seeing how he's stuck with the same team, but Irrebonum being in the in the squad. It's the same team that started last season with, when I think we have had some unreal recruitment this summer, I don't know how none of them started. I mean, in Daei, I don't know why he's not in for Dokore.
00:13:25
Kieran
and Harrison had a good game, so I can't really slate him being on the pitch, but, I mean, O'Brien that was signed from Leon. I thought he were, I mean, I know it's preseason, but I thought he had an incredible preseason.
00:13:35
officialgspn
care.
00:13:39
Kieran
I'd rather start him off with my cooking. I think if, if, if Diesh doesn't change and have a plan B, which I doesn't, I don't believe he has in his locker, if he doesn't have a plan B, he will be gone before January, I believe.
00:13:56
officialgspn
yeah edit Yeah, I think so too. It's whether or not he he'll risk starting new players over the players that haven't shown to be able to be good enough for the last couple of seasons. um But before we go on and continue the misery, um let's let's lift the mood and how about you listen to one of one one of our adverts first, how about we do that?
00:15:07
officialgspn
So then I guess the next the next question is, we've got Spurs next. Have you had a look at the next couple of games? Where are we getting points from? That's where I want to know.
00:15:17
Kieran
I think I'm scared to judge if I'm being quite honest. me We both had yeah we buff admitted that before this matchup, we expected three points in the first game of the season.
00:15:19
officialgspn
Oh, look.
00:15:25
Kieran
and and
00:15:29
Kieran
If I'm being honest, I don't really want to look past the Tottenham. I don't even want to look towards the Tottenham game. Never mind past that.
00:15:34
officialgspn
No.
00:15:35
Kieran
and It's just so hit and miss. We've got some games that we should be winning coming up. We've got some games that
00:15:43
officialgspn
that That Brighton one at home, the first one, should have bit hit that that's one that we're looking at is ah yeah is getting at least some kind of points from it.
00:15:47
Kieran
Spot on.
00:15:50
officialgspn
Because Spurs is a free hit, I think.
00:15:50
Kieran
and Yeah.
00:15:53
officialgspn
we we I don't think we won there since it was COVID when we beat them first game of the season, I don't think.
00:16:00
Kieran
Dammit. I'm not doing what I do for it. That's kind of form from him again.
00:16:04
officialgspn
And across from Luca Dean, there was a, I was looking at, I think Aston Villa posted something and the first three seconds was in ah on a, Oh Nana, Ross Barkley, Luca Dean walking into the.
00:16:11
Kieran
Yeah, i've I've literally just seen that before, if I come on here, yeah.
00:16:12
officialgspn
ah
00:16:15
Kieran
No, that hurt, seeing that, that really does hurt.
00:16:16
officialgspn
Yeah.
00:16:19
Kieran
This Tottenham game, I think your spot on, I think it's just, you've got to go for it. We expect, we probably expect a loss. It's just the kind of performance for sure. I've said this plenty of times, there's so many games where I've expected a loss, but I never expected that bad of a performance.
00:16:34
Kieran
And if maybe we lost to Brighton 1-0 and we're putting a good performance, we could probably say, we'll move on from this, but... That were embarrassing. but there's There's no sugarcoat in it that were embarrassing.
00:16:44
Kieran
So I don't really want to give any predictions the just because it's scary.
00:16:47
officialgspn
I wanted, yeah.
00:16:52
Kieran
I don't want to look past the Tottenham game.
00:16:54
officialgspn
And they, Lester got a point yesterday, but I actually thought that Spurs looked good for that first, first half, first 60.
00:17:00
Kieran
Yeah, they looked incredible. Yeah, they really did. Yeah.
00:17:03
officialgspn
With Solanke in there as well, he he'll end up scoring against this. um Most probably with the rest of the team.
00:17:09
Kieran
100%.
00:17:12
officialgspn
and But yeah, I then, I was then looking just before the podcast on Dyche's post-match interviews. and Like we've touched on O'Brien, him not starting Keene. He says that Keene had a good strong pre-season and O'Brien hasn't got the experience yet. What do you what do you make of that?
00:17:32
Kieran
it It confuses me massively. Where has Michael Keene had a good pre-season? The one game we won in pre-season or Brian played and scored.
00:17:46
Kieran
you can There's probably a handful, not even a handful of good Michael Keene performances whilst he's been at Everton, which has been quite a while. ah But I just thought that comment would just I hate them kind of comments.
00:18:00
Kieran
He said the exact same thing, like you said, before Jared Brantford got to the team, that Michael Keens got more experience. Jared Brantford coming the first game after Michael Keene, and he solidified that defense.
00:18:12
Kieran
He is what we've always wanted. Michael Keens had Premier League experience, his ad game time, and Brantford looked more solid.
00:18:20
officialgspn
It's keen potentially the know-how. Maybe he knows him he knows him from Burnley and and it takes a lot for him to bring a new player in. It's naivety, I'm sure.
00:18:28
Kieran
I think that's what it is. I think they've got a good connection. I think he put puts trust into him, and which is annoying. It'd be nice if Michael Kean was a good player, but he is weakest part of our defense, boring Ashley Young.
00:18:43
officialgspn
Yeah.
00:18:46
Kieran
It really does baffle me, but some some stuff that Dij said in his, not just this press conference, some that said in past, he really does confuse me.
Fan Engagement and Lineup Moves
00:18:57
officialgspn
There was another one that he was saying he didn't like the comment about the nine minutes added on. i'm Protecting, I think his the main thing that he was saying was that he didn't like the nine minutes was added on because what if injuries happen? Fair enough if you're if you're the team that are three nil up and the the fourth official adds nine minutes on. Fair enough. But when you're three nil down,
00:19:16
officialgspn
I don't care if there's three minutes left or nine minutes left, you're going to play till the end. And it, I don't want to say that he's big adopting a defeatist attitude already, but I just didn't, I didn't, I didn't like, yes, maybe he had annoyed after the game, but I didn't like that comment.
00:19:20
Kieran
Yeah.
00:19:28
officialgspn
I also didn't like the comment that I think it's been going around social media. Um, I think he said, well, these these are his words. He said, no, no, no. It feels like reality at this football club. but If you're not doing well and you're not winning, that's what happens.
00:19:40
officialgspn
What did you, what what did you make of X? I think it was 50 50 really with the fan base.
00:19:44
Kieran
yeah i He really doesn't understand the fanbase. When he first joined the club it was like he wanted to get involved with the fanbase, he enjoyed being involved, he understood us but now times gone on he's started to there start to be a huge gap between, I mean there's always been a huge divide between us and our club thanks to the owners but the managers starting to take that back step now and the comment about us leaving I mean
00:20:12
Kieran
With 3-0 down, the 84th or 85th minute, he accepted that we were losing, brought on Mason Hallgate for Dwight McNeil, and he just accepted we were going to lose.
00:20:20
officialgspn
He was 85, yeah.
00:20:23
Kieran
So why would people stay to watch? I mean, we conceded a fourth, luckily got ruled out for VAR, but why would people stay to watch us try and hold a 3-0 defeat?
00:20:36
officialgspn
Yeah, it was in his pretty much press conference, you're saying, I've only been here 18 months. I know Lampard didn't do the greatest with us, but he, he, he adopted the, the feel of the club very, very, very quickly.
00:20:45
Kieran
Yep.
00:20:47
officialgspn
And I don't think it takes 18 months to, for a manager to come in, get the feel of the fans, get the feel of the club and and then project it onto the pitch. It doesn't take that long. And I think he's either naive or arrogant.
00:20:59
officialgspn
I think.
00:21:00
Kieran
i like I'd agree, to be fair, I'd agree with the second comment. I really think that Daesh is Very stubborn, and he's shown that for his team selection, how he makes his substitutions, what substitutions kind of makes he he makes that apparent, how stubborn he is. And I just think if he carries on the way, is he's adding more pressure onto his back than he already will have just because of performances. Turning against the fans or making the fans out of the bad ones are really going to end him one way, and that's him out of the club.
00:21:30
officialgspn
And I think yeah things if things keep going on the way they are, I think, um, I think the fans will end up but pushing him out. He's got to, like we've spoken about early, he's got to try new things. He's got to start new players and he keeps with the same players and he keeps adopting this narrative that the fans are only staying if they're winning. Um, and this negative attitude, I think you'll be gone before, like you said, by January, um, in the post-match.
00:21:57
officialgspn
interview as well. He said that Coleman, Garner and Patterson are still not fit. So like we said, I'm going to ask you on the spot, are you starting then? Young Dixon,
00:22:08
Kieran
di and
00:22:09
officialgspn
starting Dixon and he's changing anything else.
00:22:10
Kieran
yeah
00:22:12
officialgspn
Are you moving? Cause I thought, what was McNeil like from the sounds of it? He was, he wasn't at it.
00:22:16
Kieran
I've, I actually felt for McNeil, there were a lot of service to the right hand side, which started working out incredibly well. I mean, the passes that Michael Kean were playing to ah Jack Harrison and the touches he were making, we created so many chances by that one move. And then the Brighton defence started reading it and we just couldn't change. so We just didn't have a plan B. So that's how we gave the ball away a lot of times. So McNeil got no service whatsoever. And I feel like he would have been Perfect being where Jack Harrison works as Jack Harrison over hit or under hit a lot of crosses.
00:22:48
Kieran
So I feel for McNeil. I'd give McNeil this game, but I think you've got to give him diarrhea game. I don't like the scoring in that advanced attacking midfielder role.
00:22:56
officialgspn
What was he like when he came on? and i know I know the game was probably gone by the time he came on.
00:23:00
Kieran
you could You could tell what kind of player he's going to be. a He's going to be a player that's not afraid to run at defenders, which is what we need. He's going to be working into space. i I understand that the Corey score did good goals and it gets into some good positions, but he's very limited attacking wise and I think in day he's going to give us that attacking threat.
00:23:19
Kieran
My mind's gone blank, but him that was Sam from Napoli, I really think he should be starting.
00:23:22
officialgspn
Lindstrom, yeah.
00:23:23
Kieran
Lindstrom, I really think he should be starting. I think his technical ability is incredible. I like Jack Harrison and I thought he had a very decent game against Brighton. He was one of the few that I actually enjoyed watching. but Lindstrom just adds that final quality and in the final third, in the final pass. I think he brings that in. Ira Boonin, he's going to start.
00:23:43
officialgspn
So I was going to ask, I think you may have been one of the the positives that came out, at least for the first 60 odd minutes.
00:23:47
Kieran
He was sensational, he was sensationally really was. He's 20 years of age, barely had any playing experiences, and he looked the most comfortable in the ball around players like Ashley Young, Idrisa Garnigier, who I've had.
00:23:53
officialgspn
Yeah.
00:24:01
Kieran
endless map experience at the top top level. He's got to stay in the team. Good about James Garner. I do believe that it just gone again is going to be dropped after the performance. I mean, the second goal roll his fault.
00:24:14
Kieran
and But then at the same time, you possibly have to bring to Cori back to where it just got a gaze, which I'm not too sure whether that would fit. and But I think besides that, um go on.
00:24:25
officialgspn
And is it, sorry to interrupt, do you think Calvert Lewin, is that his last game for us?
00:24:28
Kieran
No, go on.
00:24:34
Kieran
y Possibly. I like what he does. He calls aerial threat, but he's final of third player besides being physicals, abysmal.
00:24:45
Kieran
and I'm excited. We need to give beta more chance because I really think he will be a great striker for us. And I'm not, if I'm being completely honest, I wouldn't mind seeing two strikers up front with Neil Mopay and beta.
00:24:59
Kieran
Because Neil Mopay went on loan to Brentford and he showed that if he plays, yeah, if he plays with a partner alongside him, he could play off that.
00:25:04
officialgspn
It's got eight goals.
00:25:09
Kieran
I think DCL and Neil Mopay could work, but As we've mentioned, Daish in his stubbornness, we've got to kind of work around what we expect from him. So, yeah, I'd give Bea to the next game if I'm being honest.
00:25:22
officialgspn
And it's whether or not we want to try and get rid of him, get rid of Calvert learning before his contract expires next next year.
00:25:28
Kieran
Yeah, I think ah think we need to figure out whether he's going to renew. I don't want another Ross Barkley where we could get a lot of money for him and he runs down his contract and we get pennies for him.
00:25:34
officialgspn
No.
00:25:37
officialgspn
Yeah. Yeah, well, I think let's just have a quick listen to our last advert before we get your um important match prediction. Let's listen to that after.
00:26:04
officialgspn
That was the wrong advert. You've listened to that one twice, so enjoy that second listen. Let's her listen to the other one now.
00:26:43
officialgspn
Apologies for that. You can tell it's a work in progress. Like I said at the start of the podcast, do not berate us in the comments. um Before we end, oh I want to hear your um your your
Final Thoughts and Future Hopes
00:26:52
officialgspn
predictions. Anthony Taylor is the referee, so I'm sure we'll get a penalty or two against us, or some terrible decisions.
00:26:57
officialgspn
But give us give us a score prediction.
00:27:01
Kieran
Oh god, this could get dangerous.
00:27:02
officialgspn
If you can.
00:27:07
Kieran
2-0 Tottenham.
00:27:09
officialgspn
2-0 Tottenham.
00:27:10
Kieran
Yeah.
00:27:10
officialgspn
OK. OK, well, you can see the positive is flying through the ah through the room at the minute.
00:27:15
Kieran
Great start to the season.
00:27:17
officialgspn
Yeah, I'm going to go for um I'm going to be positive again. I'm going to go for a little less positive in the Brighton one. I'm going to go for a 2-1 Everton win. I think Charleston will get the goal off the bench later on after I was being tunal up.
00:27:32
officialgspn
um And I think after this, we'll be we'll be flying. We'll be waiting for a dash to sign an extension. What do you think?
00:27:38
Kieran
He doesn't learn. You really don't learn.
00:27:41
officialgspn
Insanity, what's that definition again? I don't know. i It first game this season, bad. Second game this season, let's see if we can turn it around.
00:27:51
Kieran
There's 37 games left. We've got to find some positivity, otherwise it's going to be a long season.
00:27:56
officialgspn
Exactly, and we've also got Doncaster next week, so hopefully better. We'll um be licking his lips and hopefully get him.
00:28:00
Kieran
Oh, I can't wait to see him play.
00:28:03
officialgspn
I don't think he can wait to play. He loves playing against Doncaster.
00:28:05
Kieran
He does. so
00:28:08
officialgspn
But yeah, I think that about wraps it up. Like I said, it's not the most positive podcast, but then after that kind of performance, that I don't think you expect it, expect that it can be. But I've actually, I've um' enjoyed recording this one. Thanks very much Kieran for coming on.
00:28:22
Kieran
Thank you very much for having me.
00:28:22
officialgspn
um
00:28:23
Kieran
I've enjoyed it to say the the things we've chatted about haven't been so positive.
00:28:27
officialgspn
No, no. And I'm hoping after after next week's and next game, the next Monday will be OK, but we'll be back tomorrow for some tactic Tuesday. We'll be having a little bit more insight into how Tottenham play. We'll have a look at how they play against Leicester and see how we can potentially at least get the ball off him. Yeah, we'll let speak to you tomorrow. This has been the Everton podcast, part, of course, of GSPN, bringing you a daily podcasts from every club every day. We'll see you tomorrow for another episode. Thank you very much.