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Season 4- Episode 37- Building Statues in the Square (Champions Cup Final & Super Rugby Round 15)
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It is those American (sometimes trying to be Canadian) rugby knuckleheads. On this week's ep., we have plenty of action to chat about, despite fewer games than usual. Of course, we start in Marseille and the magical win that the team from the little town put together for their fans. It's a try fight, don't go bringing kicks to it now. We pop down to the final weekend of Super Rugby's regular season and give thoughts on the teams that won't be playing next week. Yes, we talk Free Jacks including a legend making an appearance at our very own home pitch. Oh, the boys wrap up the East too! Get ahold of something tasty to drink, kick em up and have a laugh!
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Transcript
Criticism of Canada's Decision and Regret Over Free Jack's Hat
00:00:08
Speaker
Hey, everybody. Welcome back. My name is Jared. I'm Ben Glauber. Canada, whatever the fuck you're doing, you fucked up. You let him back. You let him back in. Keep him. Keep him. I didn't want him. I tried to stay. I guess I wouldn't blame you at that point, nor would a lot of people. No, wait. Just bring him back. Bring him back. Bring him back. Although I probably should not have been wearing my free Jack's hat while I was doing it.
00:00:38
Speaker
Oh, well, sorry. Sorry. I was fans. Yeah. I actually don't think anybody recognized it. So that's a good start then. Yeah. At least at least for your, your, your own safety sake.
Engagement and Listener Support
00:00:49
Speaker
Pretty much. Um, I'm busting in. Yeah. That was an unsatisfying pop. Yeah. What was it twist off? That's why, that is why when it's on your favorite podcast apps, download, rate, review, share all that good stuff.
00:01:07
Speaker
feedback. Welcome, as always. Um, yeah, so we, we, uh, of course we want you to, um, at this point for George's sake, for the all work he puts in the air, go buy him a coffee because we're, we're, we're nearing the end here. You know, we've just wrapped up two competitions. We'll get to those in the later pod. Um,
00:01:29
Speaker
We're getting to the tail end of the prem here. Those of you that follow his URC advice, you're probably getting wrapped up soon here. Yeah, go buy George a beer, a coffee, however the fuck you want to look at, the fancy rugby geek. He's obviously been worth your time. If you're listening to this, he probably followed him too. And he's an excellent human, so give him a beer. On top of that, yeah. On top of all that.
00:01:54
Speaker
speaking out to the children are thirsty to give them a beer. I'm not sure the missus would approve of that. Listen, man, we get we might need to there's some other hospitality. That's true. So just don't piss her off. All right, grab your TRM upgrades.
TRM Upgrades and Season Finale
00:02:11
Speaker
We are obviously narrowing the end here and this weekend is probably the one of the weekends that you that will pay for its weight in gold because there will be chop and change left and right and
00:02:21
Speaker
You know, full on like a like a Chevrolet changing the oil the whole way out. Right. That's just how it is. So, yeah, this will be a very helpful weekend to have that. And like I said, we'll almost play. Who the hell knows what's going to happen? Like what lineups are going to be what? I would assume those that are going for Champions Cup spots will. Yeah, there's those down. But there anybody below that, like all bets are off and
00:02:46
Speaker
Unfortunately, yeah, nope. So there's there's issues there. But that's the difference. We'll get to that later. Well, that'll be a fantasy pod. We'll talk in depth about that. Yeah.
Support for Social Movements and Reflecting on LGBTQ+ Struggles
00:02:57
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And as always, Black Lives Matter on this podcast, there is no room for racism in sport or in life. You know, it's not it's not quite the same on on the same tone as BLM, but it is Pride Month.
00:03:08
Speaker
Yes, it is. And for those of you that are celebrating on this Pride Month or during this Pride Month, we love you. We see you. And even if you haven't fully come out yet.
00:03:18
Speaker
keep doing you, you're cared about. So just continue to be you. I was listening, or, you know, not listening, I was looking through the Twitters and seeing stories about people who in the 70s, from like small towns in middle of nowhere, used to call gay bars in like New York City and the area and just to hear people, like gay people
00:03:41
Speaker
like enjoying themselves and laughing, like they wouldn't talk, they would just say, let me hear and sit there for a little bit. And it's, you know, gay and trans rights are under attack in this country right now. So what little they've earned is and I don't say that belittling, it's just that there's so much more to go, but what they have earned and deserve.
00:04:09
Speaker
Yeah, it's under attack and we can't go, we really can't go back. And then that's, so that's an all fronts, you know, whether it's, you know, though the black lives matter, they're all connected. Right. Yeah. Discrimination is, you know, of one usually goes in hand with the other. Right. In a lot of ways. Like just, there's no need for discrimination in general, because that's, that's, you know, that's what's dividing us from the people who are really the problem.
Media Criticism and Summer Plans
00:04:32
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Yeah, no kidding. And the problem is all of 2%. So right. Like, there's a reason that the,
00:04:39
Speaker
Amber Heard and Johnny Depp story has been like front page news. And it's not because it's a fucking thing that matters. It's actually it's because it's not doesn't matter. It's like I keep seeing people like so upset about it over all the Twitter. It's like, you're not paying attention to what's going on. So we need to make sure that people's rights are maintained. Yeah, that's the important thing. Correct.
00:04:59
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And then, of course, follow that up with our measly little Patreon. Yeah. Scoop that up. Yeah, we'll make sure that we're doing stuff over the summer too. So if you do grab that now, we'll of course be entertained. We might make it free over the summer just for people to... Yeah, we could do that. Like the data itself. Yeah. Yeah. And all that, whatever. Just open it up so that if we're not doing data analysis and what like that,
00:05:29
Speaker
I think I'm all right not asking people to pay for it. No, at this point. And that way they don't have to quit it and then restart it. They can just not have to worry about it. No, I agree. Yeah, and then obviously we'll make our most improved data possible for the next year as well. Right. All right.
Champions Cup Final Excitement and Rugby Insights
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Let's go.
00:05:52
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to Marseille. Finally, Marseille gets its final, the Stade Velodrome, and what a doozy it was. What a doozy it was in every respect, you know, just... Yeah, that was a Champions Cup final, no question. It had all the championship tropes of like, you know, the champion, the dominant force,
00:06:20
Speaker
controlling the match for, they seemed to be in control, but what they, like the other thing was that it was actually the underdog who was doing the things that needed to be done to win. It was kind of tortoise in the hair kind of thing. A little bit. Yeah. And, uh, you know, I've, I've been saying for a couple of years now, this is not, it's not just a rugby. Um, it's not like a test of your rugby skills. It's, it's a try scoring contest.
00:06:51
Speaker
Can you score tries? You can't win just kicking penalty kicks. And if I'm not mistaken, Leinster just kicked penalty kicks. Yeah, they only had seven penalties, I think. Yeah, go try Sexton. And one by Byrne. Yep. And their defense was good, but it wasn't
00:07:21
Speaker
you know, anything great. So it's not like La Rochelle were ever like, they weren't ever really out of it. They were just like something, it felt like the score was bigger than it was, the differential.
00:07:34
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Right and because you have to wonder how many times are you going to get down there? They already had the rule try which was absolutely fantastic. So we knew they were going to get that but until you get one you're always questioning are you going to get another? Is there another one on the cards and the answer was yes both with Boogie and
00:07:58
Speaker
It's somebody that we don't love on this podcast, but credit to EIOS. He played a fantastic game. Boot was pretty good. So yeah, I think he missed one or two that could have potentially cost them. But at the same time, I think he hit all his conversions. So that's always nice to get seven over five.
00:08:18
Speaker
So yeah, there was there was a lot of good done by Ohio West. And again, he's not our favorite, but damn. No, but this is on this stage. Look, he can he can look back on his career with this Champions Cup, not just the cup. I mean, competition. He's had fantastic competition. We've been talking about him positively. Yep. This is one that he will when he retires, he will look back and say, I did that. And you know what?
00:08:47
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You don't show up and just having one good run like that is incredibly special and not to belittle the rest of his career again.
00:08:59
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you know, if this is what he's remembered for, it's pretty fucking good. Good job. Yeah, I'm sure they'll start. They'll think about building statues that have been in the shell right down the road here. Yeah. So it's yeah, it's another it's another great ending to this comp. I'm
00:09:19
Speaker
also especially pleased that La Rochelle won because we didn't need another team that was always a prize. We have a couple of those already and unfortunately, that's just one of the painful things about the whole thing. We have
00:09:32
Speaker
Um, also two French clubs, Rossing and Claremont are the first two that come to mind. Um, but yeah, just, uh, we didn't need another one. Uh, so another, another new team added to the list. Another, another one gets to go into that, the very special, uh, very special spot. And we would be remiss if we didn't talk about will skeleton.
00:09:53
Speaker
How the hell did he last the whole fucking game? He didn't really. I mean, he was up in the whole game. He was, but those runs down at the goal line, the carrots he had were not like, there wasn't much behind it. It's just like, oh, I'm hit. All right. I'm falling over. I'm not going to try to
00:10:16
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do a Will Skelton run. He was toasted by then. And that's good enough. That's the thing. Will Skelton at like 50, maybe 40%, which is I think what he was running at there, is still better than Mo... Like it's... Leinster still had to... It still took two to bring him down. Because he's just so big. He just tries to fall forward. You still... You end up...
00:10:42
Speaker
holding him up and then he just gets yardage. You still have to tackle him, you still have to force him to the deck. Yeah and then because of course we found out later that Caballo is banged up so he was not able to go and his two replacements actually played quite well between Rettiere and the Bourgeois. So credit to the two of them for stepping into
00:11:07
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you know, some very, very, very seasoned shoes, I think we'll say, because you know, you know, what he's been through. Yeah, loads of credit to those two as well. So there were there were a lot of things that make this make something like this happen. And each little thing like that is just so very important. And you don't think about it until you get to this game in this moment. And you need, you know, you need to try to get over the line and black and L. Yeah, that's
00:11:35
Speaker
What a way to finish. I mean, that was, that was gorgeous. So it's, it, you know, it's, uh, and then of course I, you know, unfortunately, Lancer does, there's not much to talk about, unfortunately for Lancer because they let themselves down. This sucks. Oh yeah, I know. They cleared the data.
00:11:58
Speaker
I just realized that before. Because I wanted to see how many carries did Jane Flow have? How many touches did he have? I don't know. Aside from the kicks to Tosh. Because they didn't use him. Hugo Keenan never really got in the game. When Jimmy O'Brien was involved, but that was mostly because he was carrying off of kicks. He was going airborne and taking it and running with it.
00:12:25
Speaker
It was Ringrose and Henshaw, and that was as far out as Sexton ever got it. Like it wasn't just on the scoreboard that that that Lenster were, you know, were conservative. It was it was then their attack, too. They never really they never opened it up. And that baffled me. Right. It's like Sexton, no, I mean, that was you know, he this is this is the form that he's been showing that we've kind of been like, yeah, it's time for him to go. And
00:12:53
Speaker
you know, 60 minutes now too. That's the thing. Yeah. And he's, and he, I thought that I still thought that was game in a way you're not really, you know, Ross Brown's good, but I don't think he's going to open it up any more than, than Sexton did. No, probably not.
00:13:11
Speaker
Probably not at all. Um, yeah, no, I think, I think he's very quality Rusper. And I think a lot of people bite your hand off to take him. Right. Um, but at the same time, we all know that he's not the next level. Yeah, correct. Yeah. No, if he's, if he's your guy, then you probably, you're probably taking a left turn somewhere that you didn't, that you didn't need to write mistakes were made mistakes were made. Oh, come on now.
00:13:39
Speaker
Yeah, I can't find the carry number maybe have it or something. I'll look for it later. Okay, yeah, lame. But and then the last part of this whole thing. Here's the referees know there was there wasn't a whole lot to complain about what that as well. Didn't have a lot to say. We're in Agara.
00:14:01
Speaker
the job he's done. And he's now everybody's favorite, you know, wanted that, you know, right? Why England? Just saying. I don't think you go there. I'm probably not. I don't know if you'd be welcome there. Yeah, exactly. I don't think that would work. But I'm sorry for the ideas of him for the Lions.
00:14:28
Speaker
Oh, that's an excellent idea. I like that idea. I'm into that idea. I definitely I demand that idea. No, no, no, we're doing that. Yeah, no, I'm into that idea. So but yeah, this is somebody that had a very, very fantastic career as a player. And now he's turned himself into
00:14:48
Speaker
a very, very good coach. And we've seen, you know, he's been all over the place now. He's been an island. He's been to New Zealand. And now he's in France. And, you know, he's expanding himself. And you'll love to see that coach. So, you know, you love to see it in the player, but you really love to see it in the coach because it only helps more. But it's not just that he's gone to those places and learned from people. It's that he's gone to those places in every single place he's gone. He's had immediate impact.
00:15:17
Speaker
And he's been positive there, too. He's like some sort of super coach at this point. And I don't say that lightly. He gets it.
00:15:31
Speaker
you know, there's so many fucking knobs out there that try to think that they're better than the game. He's just one of those guys. He's like, no, like this is how you, this is how you do it if you want to win. So let's just do that. Yeah, no doubt. Yeah. No doubt. No doubt. You're not smarter than the game. Just coach the game. Then he's, and he's done a fantastic job. I think, again, we talk about statues being built. Yeah. Maybe one of them in La Rochelle too. And what a party that that was watching the scenes from La Rochelle. Uh,
00:15:59
Speaker
Yeah, I think they said about 20,000 of them were probably in the stadium in Marseille and probably the other 50 odd thousand were in the streets having a party. So yeah, love to see stuff like that. You know, they've they've come from very humble beginnings in many ways. And now they're you know, they're they are people like Will Skelton and Gregory Aldrich and you know,
00:16:26
Speaker
the Jonathan Dante, Bryce Doolan, all these really good players that people would, you know, absolutely just. And Mooney Antonio. Yep. The whole front rows. Yep. He's quite good. I mean, long way down the France pecking order, but at the same time, very good. Look who's up on them. Oh, I know. It's hard to argue with it. I mean, he'd be a
00:16:52
Speaker
much higher choice than say England, and they're, they're still pretty good. Great, great, great. So La Rochelle add their name to the mantle. And it is a welcome another welcome addition to the club of champions and in Champions Cup. And we'll see you all in Dublin in 2023. That'll be nice. Yeah.
00:17:15
Speaker
Well, they changed venues on that. Did I make the mistake that they changed venues on that? Didn't they? I don't know. Somebody out there, please correct me if I'm wrong, but they changed. It was supposed to be somewhere else. And they changed that venue. And I think it was supposed to be somewhere probably a little cooler, no offense Dublin. You're awesome. But somebody somewhere more new, I think, and maybe a little bit more expansive. So that's maybe that's where it was. So I guess we'll find out.
00:17:44
Speaker
Let's jump over and go down to the final round of the Super. And Friday night, we started off with Crusader's Reds. Why would you ever play that match? Crusader's Reds, not an unexpected result. But maybe an unexpected, slightly unexpected standout performer in
00:18:10
Speaker
Fergus Burke, for the Crusaders and not somebody in, you know, also an unexpected 10 with Lawson Crichton taking charge of the thing. Yeah, it's, again, it's a credit to the Crusaders coaching staff and what they're able to just continuously turn out in terms of talent and, you know, what they can do.
00:18:35
Speaker
to keep this team nice and deep when it comes to players and being able to call on guys and give guys rest. Cause obviously all blacks are all on required rest X, Y, you know, for X weeks or whatever, whether or not that was Richie's case point being, you still need the guys that you can't lean on them a hundred percent of the time. So you gotta be able to call guys on and. And Burke, I mean, he's gone from.
00:18:57
Speaker
Like, he's talking about E-High OS this way, but like, he's gone from a guy who was like, okay, you know, in a pinch, he won't kill you to a guy who I don't want to play against, frankly, a guy who can actually lead a team. Scary. We had one incident that was, that's a major talking point in this match.
00:19:22
Speaker
Here's the thing, it's one of those things that it was like, hmm, I think he's actually be doing okay this year, been referencing Ben O'Keefe.
00:19:32
Speaker
No, no real issues for me to stamp my feet about or anything like that. And then he goes ahead and says, hold my beer. If he would, I'm about to go do something really fucking stupid. And he makes this boneheaded decision with Matera and I'm like,
00:19:53
Speaker
Is player safety really a top priority or are we just using that as lip service? Because that is a red card all day. And the fucked up thing is, if that D-bag in South Africa made it about stuff like this, yes, he'd have everybody would be behind him. He probably wouldn't have been suspended.
00:20:23
Speaker
And it would have a good point. It would be making a positive contribution to the game. Like, this is the stuff. Yeah, this was to his point. He just made it, you know, extremely poorly and one-sidedly. But like, this is the kind of stuff that needs to be regulated at a consistent level all across rugby. It can't be refereed one way in Europe and in South Africa and, you know,
00:20:50
Speaker
Australia even, and then, you know, in North America, like, and then in New Zealand, it's refereed a completely different way. Right. You know, regardless of his quote unquote landing point, that dude dropped him on his head. Yeah, he did. Like, I think anybody, if I were to show that to somebody that's never watched a rugby game in his life, be like, why'd that guy just drop him on his head? Well, technically, it was his shoulder.
00:21:16
Speaker
Get the fuck out of here, man. Nobody's buying that. Nobody is buying that chowder. Get the hell out of here, man. No, I call bullshit. I call bullshit. And I think the rest of the world does, too. So I know, Keith, congratulations. You reminded me why I fucking think you're a terrible referee.
00:21:34
Speaker
But the Crusaders only needed to do a slight job on the night and to make sure that they were able to hold their spot for the playoffs going forward. So I think all I needed was a point. That's done. Got it comfortably. Yeah, they got that done comfortably. And oddly enough, they're going to have the exact same matchup.
00:21:59
Speaker
I'm not, it's, and it's at the same time, as much as we're going to, we've praised the Crusaders. This is a bear in, you know, you and I both had high hopes for the Reds coming into the season. Very disappointing so far, to be all the way down in seventh, going, having to travel to one of the best teams in New Zealand, instead of potentially hosting their own team, their own game. And yeah, just, nope. This is, and I'm sure Brad Thorne would tell you the exact same thing. You'd be like, yeah, this is not where I want to be either.
00:22:27
Speaker
So it is a little disappointing for us all out here that we're kind of pulling from a little bit. Let's jump over to Fiji, Churchill Park. The Druids get another actual home game and... And a surprise squeaky bomb time. Yeah, quite a bit of entertainment. Yeah, a little bit of entertainment.
00:22:54
Speaker
You know, the free jacks weren't the only match in town with the fireworks at the end. No, no, not at all. This was, yeah, I mean, obviously chiefs got themselves out to a comfortable leave. Norao was good on the day. You know, there was, again, Brandon Gatlin's been superb in that tent chair for the chiefs, making a lot of people forget about Chashuani and the fact that they signed him, although he came on early to replace, I think it was Trask.
00:23:24
Speaker
I fall back. Yeah, it just got hurt, I think. Very early, yeah. Took a tough one there. This was a good season for the Jew, I think everybody would say that.
00:23:40
Speaker
without batting an eye. Yeah, results weren't always there, but there's there was a lot that people love to watch this team first off, which is great. Yep. So only puts more people makes more people more familiar with the names on the team, which is, as one of these, you know, these, these second tier nations, these island nations that want to, you know, get a bigger profile and, you know, do better on the national international stage.
00:24:07
Speaker
That is a huge thing in itself. So really good stuff. And then, yeah, like we said, there was some good players that we found out about that you and I certainly didn't necessarily know about until this team stumbled in. Right. Like Voda, I had no idea. Definitely.
00:24:24
Speaker
And what a player he is. Rovovo, who apparently says, let's go go. Let's go go. Great call from Mike Clark. I loved it. Yes, he is go-going. He is. Go-go gadget. Yeah. And they've had, you know, Habosi has been just a dominant in a team. And Teddy Teller is showing good. So, like,
00:24:52
Speaker
There's a lot going on in that team that they they've learned they got better as the as the season went on. Yeah, absolutely, they're they're building and that's that's so good for rugby overall. And yeah, you're right. We'll learn some names and the fans are getting in. You know, it's something that's a spectacle no matter what they're seeing entertaining sport.
00:25:12
Speaker
And, you know, they're going to start seeing wins. It's much more fun, like can confirm. It's much more fun when you're seeing entertaining rugby that's winning. But it's it's still entertaining rugby, and that'll still like that. It builds like you give something that that fans, you know, you've had this spectacle. They'll come, they'll show you'll get better as the team. And because, you know, again, this is this just like the champions cup. It's a try scoring competition.
00:25:41
Speaker
and you got to learn how to score tries. And every time you bump up a level, you got to learn, it gets the margins get so much tighter. So it's another great thing for rugby and another good one for super rugby. Yeah, it is. I was really shocked. I'm going to go in that direction. Yeah, it was, I was really shocked to see him in that team sheet. Me too. I mean, here's the thing, like for the chief's sake,
00:26:10
Speaker
She started struggling at law. They have they have Brody, they have to provide proven himself very, very, very good player and an all black worthy type of guy. Josh Lord, who got his feet wet with the all blacks this past year, then Akoy, who's not not somebody that you're going to bite your hand off, but again, solid at the same time. So somebody that you want in the in the bench.
00:26:33
Speaker
If you see his interview, this post-match interview, I think it was Akoy, after last week, all of this handed to you. It's hilarious. He's rocking the painted nails and talking about how he did it with his mom. It's like so sweet. And then he's like, they were saying, oh, we saw you with the headphones on premium. Were you listening? It was like, I was listening to Fleetwood Mac. And then he starts singing. Oh my god. I fucking love this guy. That's awesome. That's hilarious. OK, that's funny. I'll have to check it out. Yeah. That's great.
00:27:03
Speaker
love it. So Chiefs get the job done that they needed to to be sure that they were able to hold on to a home semi final home quarter file. So they can go back home and rest up and have a little bit of calm cooking before they get their matchup coming up this week. Over to Mount Smart Stadium in New Zealand and
00:27:30
Speaker
Bit of a surprise was sprung on the Brumbies. Well, Moana and Brumbies. Yikes. Everything we just said about the Druo, we can say about Moana Pacifica too. Those Pacific Island themed kits, they're good luck, I swear. I think they've won at least, I think they have two wins. They won in both of those they're wearing that kit. So it's good luck, boys. Don't get rid of it. Yeah, it's good.
00:28:00
Speaker
I am, where was I with this one? I'm trying to find the, cause I did watch it. I'm trying to find the next page. All these matches seem like I was telling you before this, they seem like they were a month away from my drive. I had that feeling sometimes. I will say, so I'll say this on the, on the Brumbies.
00:28:17
Speaker
I feel like they kind of dialed it back a little bit, a little too early because they pulled little CEO kind of early. Um, they had McInerney and instead of, you know, and instead of, you know, the fine guy who, again, I'm not a huge fan, but that's your usual starting hooker. Um, back row. I don't love Brown.
00:28:38
Speaker
And Kennedy is a nobody to me, so pass. So I feel like they kind of turned that back just a little bit. Simon's try was pretty good though. His was great. I mean, he's a monster. Yeah, it was a little too late. Oh, obviously too little too late, but it was still a good try. I was trying to give him something because another guy that we were kind of like meh on. And this is what surprised me more than anything.
00:29:08
Speaker
Tom Wright and Tom Banks were like, they were involved, but they were pretty much non-entities. Yeah, they were. They had 48, so Banks had 48 meters on 10 carries and Wright had 46 on eight. Like, that's a lot of, that's 18 carries for a little over 90 meters. Between those two. Between the two of them, yeah. Like, and you know, five defenders beating, so you know, not bad, but they beat a defender only to get tackled by the next guy. And,
00:29:36
Speaker
That's for Moana Pacifica to do that to them. It's excellent work. Yep. I agree. I agree. I agree. I kind of felt for Scopi Kepu. This is a milestone match for him. And it's a red card. I saw it. I was like, this is going to go poorly. I have a feeling. And sure enough. And then the game was ruined.
00:30:03
Speaker
Oh wait. Or so you would be led to believe for some reason. Yeah. By some helmets. Um, yeah. Cause there was, yeah, there was that. And then, yeah, the Brumby's got one try, but they, I don't know if they scored again in that 20 minute period though. Did they do they got the McInerney try?
00:30:27
Speaker
And I think that's the only try they got in that 20-minute period afterwards. And that was the ensuing penalty from Kepu as well, I believe. So that was just the one try. And that was the only points.
00:30:43
Speaker
Right. So anyway, so it, you know, we obviously can't judge the whole match on it because they do replace the sub, but I am glad that world record. We put that a lot of bed and said, yeah, we're not doing that. Have you scored also? You did score in that timeframe. So.
00:30:58
Speaker
And then there was a penalty kick at 28 minutes. So they won a Pacific and scored 10 points in that time. So, yeah. It's not a thing, just stop with the whole bullshit. Yeah, we don't need it to be 20 minutes anymore. We can pass.
00:31:21
Speaker
So yeah, a bit of a stumble into the postseason for the Brumbies. I think they would agree. Dan McKellar looked really fucking pissed in that fucking box. I will say that. Did not look like he was a happy person. I would probably be any of the coaches that were in there with him, honestly. Pretty, no, not really. Passé. Let's go over to like that over in Sydney, New South Wales, Wartas, and the Blues.
00:31:50
Speaker
Blues had nobody, but no problem just the same. Like they have nothing to play for. So they rightly put out what they did because essentially this is a bye week for them in a lot of ways. And they're going to use it to the rest up, you know, their main guys. And I don't have a problem with them doing that. But the team itself, and that's a great, that's a great credit to the leadership for the team, but also the coaching staff for the Blues and
00:32:19
Speaker
just putting it in every player's head that this is how we play, and we go for it no matter who's on the pitch. Right. So I give them loads and loads of credit for this. It was an audition. I mean, that's like, as long as you let the players know that that's what it is. And
00:32:38
Speaker
that's so much more helpful. It's like, this isn't just, you know, we're not looking to lose. We're looking to see like, we think you guys can win. So show us that you can do your, if you individually do your jobs as a team, we'll win. And they did it. Yeah. Um, we had two, we had two very similar points, um, in this match and then the next one, uh, Paul Williams made a,
00:33:01
Speaker
although I thought it was a very sensible decision on Michael Hooper and saying, it's nothing. It's just an incident. It is rugby. We're still playing a violent sport. Remember that. So not everything is going to be foul play. Not everything is going to be cards. So yeah, I thought that was a good no call. I thought I was okay with it.
00:33:19
Speaker
Me too. Yeah. Punish the stuff that needs to be punished. Like the drop of actions. Yeah. Yeah. Punish the actions. Don't punish outcomes and don't just arbitrarily apply. Oh, that looks like foul play because this happened. It's like, well, you got great contact, but... Yeah. Like if a guy's getting a lot like... And that's why I like that there's...
00:33:45
Speaker
you know, that they put in the protocols are actually helpful to the referees. And if they as long as they manage them correctly, that's that's the the navigation that the O'Keefe failed to do is to navigate it properly. They're just like, Nah, whatever, fuck it. They're just boys will be boys. This is like, okay, like, you know, tacklers trying to get low, everybody's trying to get low. And it's just bonk.
00:34:10
Speaker
And it happens. How many times I've taken a knee to the head? It doesn't have to be done. Like I was saying before the match about apologizing in the rough, like, you kicked me in the face. Well, where was your face? Right by your boot. Well, there you go. It's like, if I put my face right behind you guys' knee, or if I put it where his head is, when he's trying to tackle me low, we're going to bonk heads.
00:34:35
Speaker
Yeah, and I think the thing that a lot of referees have put in their brain, the good ones have at least is the tackler bent at the waist. And that is such a huge thing because that clue and to me, along with I think a lot of other people,
00:34:50
Speaker
that clearly shows this person is really trying to actually get low. They're not upright, they're not doing, so yeah, bend at the waist and you can cut out a lot of bullshit in terms of your tackling and the risk that you run of getting sent off or sent to the bin. And we can cut down on that whole confession thing, which would be nice too. But the tots in general didn't play that badly. They were missing little bits and pieces.
00:35:20
Speaker
to get the job done. They just couldn't do it. And I think Jake Gordon would even tell you that that's probably the case too. Yeah. Even, I think it was the halftime interview with Will Harris. He's like, yeah, we're, we're there, but we're, you know, we're, we're botching it here and there. I think that was more or less his words. Yep. I'd agree. You got too close, but you keep fucking it up. Can't do that. Nothing's doing it good. So it needed to channel his inner, um, how Fergus Burke and, and,
00:35:50
Speaker
We got Ted Abed, which isn't bad, but it's not, you know, it's not championship quality yet. No, and he's and he's done quite well for them this season. This was this was one of those growing pain matches for him, unfortunately. Right. It's just it's just what you like. Yeah. Yeah. Marky Mark looks like he's he's back, you know, but he's back to form, which is great. I feel smart for having him on my team, but that didn't really help me because I wasn't playing this week. I had it in my final team.
00:36:19
Speaker
Yeah. So it's, you know, again, another letdown for one of the Aussie teams and Blues proved that they are at the top of the table for a damn good. We are. Yeah. Good for them. And then, oops, Daisy, my guy's kind of laid an egg. A little bit. I have to say it's there's and there's one thing that's been a common denominator amongst the lesser performances for the Hurricanes and it has been Jordy Barrett.
00:36:47
Speaker
most of the time when they've really put in a bit of a, he's been out. So it's something that they have to, it's not an excuse, it's something they have to learn to live with, but it does speak to his quality as well, which is duh, I know.
00:37:04
Speaker
but it's just, it's really kind of starting to rear its ugly head in a lot of ways. So, um, thankfully they're probably not going to be without them knock on wood, um, for the remainder of the season. Cause we're going to, we're down the knockout stage. So, um, there is that.
00:37:18
Speaker
But, you know, this was a team I do want to talk about the force because this was a team going into the last few rounds here. You and I were both very disappointed with this as well. We also had much more ambition for this club and this and the squad where it is year. And it's just kind of gone to all holy hell. And it's really unfortunate because, again, it's a team that I thought was
00:37:45
Speaker
you know, a great surprise last year, and was really hoping it would take the next step. And I think we all can agree they really didn't. No, that sucks. Yeah. But you know, there's there's still hope. I mean, not to Ellie has just been a monster. But what is there, though, else? That's what I'm trying to sort out. Like, Strahan, or however you say that is not strong, not
00:38:14
Speaker
He's not it, like he needs to, and that, you know, kind of goes along with the rest of their back line. It's like, they gotta, they really gotta just pick it up. And maybe this is like a down year. Cause you know, they have, they have had some departures and, um, some guys like Reese, John has to tell us stepping up, like, you know, really getting the reins for, you know, getting a learning season under his belt. So I can see the step backwards. I can kind of, uh, you know, um,
00:38:41
Speaker
I can understand it even if I don't approve that way. Um, and, uh, I don't think they're going to suffer too much having, you know, losing was a Fergus Lee Warner. I'm not really, I don't think you're, he's leaving, right? Can I get that right? Yeah, I think he is. I think he's out because I know that a bunch of the hyphenated guys are leaving Australia. Um, I think he's out too. Yeah. I think he's going to, I think he's one of those guys on the, on the way to Worcester. Okay. Um,
00:39:12
Speaker
Yeah. And, you know, those guys that are hanging them up and hopefully with that, you know, we'll have some youthful guys coming through. Yeah. That's going to take some time, even though there's a standard that's there. So I think they're, they're still ahead of.
00:39:28
Speaker
the island teams. And that's for a reason. Because they still have advantages over them as far as they've been professional for longer. They've been at a club for longer. Even the new guys are coming into established systems, whereas Fiji and Moana are kind of establishing systems and ways of being a professional rugby player. So yeah, that just kind of goes to show what the difference is there too. Because I, you know, fuck.
00:39:57
Speaker
Those two teams are going to climb up the forces ass if they don't get their butts. Oh yeah, they got they got to pull their heads out as it were.
00:40:04
Speaker
Also, I couldn't let this pod go without saying, it's more being time. Yeah, another shocker of the day, another surprise back three. They are going to need to replace him because Wes Houston is on his way out. He's going to Edinburgh. So he will have a spot available to him should he want to take it by the reins. Here's my problem with this movement.
00:40:29
Speaker
The hurricanes to me are the super rugby equivalent of the Pittsburgh Steelers when if we're if we're comparing their back their back line players to like the Steelers wide receivers.
00:40:44
Speaker
just going everywhere else. You leave. And then what happened? What happened to you? Was that a good, was that good for your career? Is the team that you went to happy for signing you? Like it never worked out. So, you know, it's like these guys, I mean, doors always open West, right? Like, yeah. How's, um, fuck, who was it? Like a TJ lamb.
00:41:05
Speaker
Um, or Ben lamb. Sorry. The one who stayed, um, Ben lamb and like some of these other guys, they go off and then they leave and never really. Yeah. I mean, Savannah left and came back. Yeah. I'm not having a great time. I can't remember who else I'm thinking of at the moment, but there's guys who they've had. He's with the tigers now. This is Lester. Yes. I can't remember.
00:41:34
Speaker
Damn it. I can't remember off the top of my head. I'll think of it in a second. But yeah, no, you're not wrong. Yeah. And just disappear. Oh, then the Van Wix. Yeah, that one. I know it's a van, something. Right. He's been all over the place. Yeah. I mean, he was a journeyman. But yeah, like Surveyor being one of them and Ben Lamb being the other.
00:41:57
Speaker
Yeah, it's not done well for all of them. And I can't think of too many that it has gone super well for so far. But that's because he only went to another team.
00:42:12
Speaker
There's good and bads about this match for hurricanes for obvious reasons. I'm glad to see USA is healthy again. That was somebody I was kind of concerned about. I thought we'd see more of him this year. Wait, is he healthy? Yep, he looks good. He looks very good. Yeah, and I still like a lot of what we have in pieces. This is a growing pain scheme for Aiden Morgan, no doubt.
00:42:35
Speaker
You know, I think that's that's that could be said about a few of these boys. Yeah, he had it. He had his week last week, though. Right. And we did allude to it earlier, but that it was a good, you know, well managed situation with duplicity, career fee and Jeremy thrush. So although I don't know how thrush came back in the game and played that one. I don't. Yeah, no, not thrush. It was. Fuck, who was it? Who who did he knock out? Because it didn't know they didn't they never leave.
00:43:05
Speaker
Um, trying to think of nobody. I'm trying to, no, it was Kahui. Okay. He left. Okay. He left. So yeah, he did. He did leave. All right. That's right.
00:43:19
Speaker
Yeah, and it was, again, an unfortunate incident. Again, we play and are watching a violent sport. So it is bound to happen, unfortunately, from time to time. The point is we want to cut it down to a very bare minimum. And if we go forward and that's the one incident where a guy unfortunately has to leave the game permanently because of something like that, I would live with that. And unfortunately, it'd be an unfortunate part of the game. I think a lot of people would. Unfortunately, we still have these
00:43:48
Speaker
really just dumb hammerhead high tackles and you know, people getting dropped on their fucking heads. So, meh. But Karifi was in the right position. He did everything right and Kahui lowered into him. And it's like, because you're trying to duck in and fend him off with your shoulder. And it's like, if you miss, that's not on the defender. That's on you. Yeah, it is. It is, it is. And then, so, over to you, Rebels. And
00:44:17
Speaker
Came up all of seven points short. Yeah, they need the force need the rebels to score another seven. It just didn't happen. But I think we would all agree that this is probably the best game the force played throughout the whole year. I don't think there's anything you know, you could probably say there was a one on par, but this is one of the best games they played throughout the year without without question, right? And the kings are having a down year, but that doesn't mean they're bad.
00:44:45
Speaker
right? And they're still in the playoffs. So right on that. And then the Highlanders obviously got got the job done. Although man, Marty Banks at 10 is just one of those things where it's scary. So why did
00:44:57
Speaker
Why did you do that again? I'm terrified if Marty Banks is my 10. Bar none. I think Karoi came in. I don't know who the hell they slotted in at 10 though, but yeesh. A little bit of hatchwork on that one, no doubt. Yeah, I can't remember. So again, it's a good
00:45:19
Speaker
It was a great, you know, game from, from the rebels, all three of their back three finished one. Um, love to see something like that. And it was, uh, we saw some of their, their youngsters starting to come to form, um, Carter Gordon and James Tullo, the nine 10 there that, um, everybody is definitely raving about what good reason, um, they've got a little bit more seasoning to go, but.
00:45:44
Speaker
they'll be there. And honestly, I think Joe Pilon needs to go find a new place to play because I think James Tullo is going to take that job from him. Yeah, Vi who's only 20 days a kid. He's a kid. He's got, you know, he's got some feet to on him. Right? Ripley. What's Ripley? Let me see. Also 20. Yeah, he's very
00:46:03
Speaker
They were younger than 911. Ripley was born in 2002 by who? Yep. Oh, yeah, seven October 2001. So yeah, these, they have some good things going on. Do the rebels and well, let's see is coming back to form. He looks
00:46:24
Speaker
Not bad this match. That's good for both Australian rugby and for the Rebels. That was a big showing by him. So hopefully he gets a phone call from Dave Rennie. But the Hounders did just enough to keep themselves in the playoffs, although you wouldn't know it by the look on their face at the end of the match. Yeah, they were not. I'm not convinced that they knew that they had done enough.
00:46:47
Speaker
Right. Yeah, I think that's what it comes down to because otherwise you would have just had both teams celebrate. Yeah. Everybody's up for joy. Let's go ahead. So it is enough for the Islanders. Your prize, you get to go to Eden Park and play the Blues. Congratulations. Many of which have been rested. Good luck.
00:47:13
Speaker
Yeah, that's not good. Oopsie daisy. Yeah, that's not really a prize I want. But better than being going home, I suppose. Let's go. Let's come back to each side.
00:47:26
Speaker
MLR bit of a whip around here. Um, first things first, Friday night, free Jack's clinch, the East, the road to the MLR title goes through Fort Quincy. And that is awesome. And that's not a place that's seems to be not a place you really want to play so far. I mean, it's, um, it's loud. It gets loud there. At least it feels like the stance. Um, um, I can only imagine what the players, how they feel it, um,
00:47:57
Speaker
but the fans have really started getting into it, especially because they're good. How can you not? Like, this was a hell of a match. This is a complete shit talking. Good Lord. One of those where you can just kind of focus on drinking some beers and hanging out with your friends about like 20 minutes left. Like we went to go gush over Stacy Fleuler. Yes. Oh man. And she is awesome. Everybody, she is awesome. Like, yeah. So,
00:48:26
Speaker
Yeah, I've met a Blackfern. Yeah, right. Shaking her hand and gushed over and said hi. I think I had to drag us away. I was like, okay, let's go. Let's go before we fucking get too giddy over here. And she was great though. She gave the girl that wears the Fauzi Bear costume a Blackfern's kit. I was like, that's a good day for you, girl. You had a day right there.
00:48:52
Speaker
That was really nice. Yeah, so she's she's really cool. So if you ever get just shake your hand, she's pretty cool. And she would she appease everybody that approached her. She did. She was super nice about it. She was very awesome about it. So, Stacy, you are you are welcome back to Boston anytime you want. Right? I mean, that's Yeah, that's, that's a good step. But to see that many people that were gushing over her. So I agree. I agree as well. It wasn't just us. No, it was not that many people are all about that.
00:49:22
Speaker
As far as the match goes, geez, they just turned it on from word one. They really did. It never felt like they were out of control of this match either. Obviously, they put up a huge number as well, 57 to five. Well, the donut was there for the taking. I mean, they gave it up with all our freaking whatever. I'm not worried about that. How much better is that scrum with a real loose head?
00:49:46
Speaker
Hmm, I can't imagine what's different about that scrum. Not one bit. Oh, wait, nevermind. I know exactly what's different about that scrum. We have a loose head that can actually fucking scrum and play. And they were crushing on the scrum. The scrum has not been a strength
00:50:03
Speaker
No, and we got we got penalties out of that thing. Right. So, right. Should kind of speak to, you know. Right. Things we should probably do. I've learned from this, although newcomers been hurt. So he has had to come back and then he played 50, which is actually pretty good. Yeah.
00:50:22
Speaker
And there's, well, the thing of it is, and that's the other thing that you do have to consider is you can only have so many internationals in your 23. And for me, ideally, one of the places that we
00:50:37
Speaker
If we could have both Q and Alex Johnson in, that is perfect. Q starts, Johnson comes off the bench because he's proven he probably is only about a 25 minute player so far. So fine, still solid though. So I'll take it. And yeah, you're going to have to bite the bullet somewhere else because it needs to be either Canadian or US international eligible. Although I think Alex Johnson is technically one of those.
00:51:05
Speaker
I think so. Born here. Born here in Massachusetts, if I'm not mistaken. Yeah. So those two, and you know, I, because I saw them in the stands and I was like, Alex, what's up? He's like, bit of a rest. I was like,
00:51:18
Speaker
You seem annoyed about it. Most players I would be, I suppose, but yeah. Well, I mean, I would be, I mean, is he a tight head or a loose head? He's a loose head. Well, then I would be too. I'd be a little annoyed because it's one of those like, we know what Kyle can bring and it's not much. He's not the quality that's needed at this level. So at that point, put,
00:51:45
Speaker
Someone else and they put Alex in just because, you know, especially I think I think Matthew's probably kicking himself that he didn't for this match because it's like this is the perfect time to get someone like Alex, you know, a bunch of time because it's going to be a runaway.
00:52:02
Speaker
Although, obviously, he didn't know that it would be a runaway, but about five minutes in, it was pretty clear that that's what it was going to be. Yeah, it turned bad to worse very fast. LaRue Millan and Wayne Vanderbank absolutely superb once again. You cannot say enough about the two of these guys. Like, just, oh, my God. Pretty much. Just good Lord.
00:52:28
Speaker
And you know the back, so here's the fun thing. And we found out later that Slade McDowell suspended until potentially would be the final. Still haven't missed a whole lot in the back row. Terrell Pites is back, which is great to have him back. Joe Johnson's been playing seven as he usually does, being konradis back to being his usual self. And the fun thing is like Justin Johnson's been a healthy scratch for a lot of the year. So he's fresh and ready to go.
00:52:54
Speaker
the the the diamond in the rough that we've discovered this season has been cam brevitz like and i don't say that with you know we hate hate
00:53:06
Speaker
We've talked about this on the drive out and back. We fucking hate Mystic. Everybody hates Mystic. Mystic are a bunch of assholes. It's just the way they are. It's not, you know, jealousy or anything like that. I've been in the parts of teams that were much better than them. I was on a B team that beat their A team. So it's not like it's a thing about
00:53:31
Speaker
know, where they are right now. No, they have just always been just complete assholes. So credit to Cam David if it's for coming out of that. Finally, they're producing something worthy. And that's, yeah, he's been excellent. He's been absolutely a revelation. Right. And from, you know, the talkings amongst
00:53:51
Speaker
Our team, our club mates, he and he has a brother are actually decent folk. So credit to them. Like we actually like them. This is cool. Yeah. You know, you know what Cam did in this match that a lot of people wanted to do is absolutely level Robin Coleman.
00:54:09
Speaker
Oh, yeah. You got to wait. It was just a penalty. It was clean. Oh, no. It was clean. It was a penalty. Yeah. Maybe late. I haven't watched the replay yet. It was like me. Even still, it was hard. It was low. And he rapped. Yeah. Oh, it was anything wrong other than the fact that he hit him a little late and Coleman didn't get up from it. No, he came. He left. You left the game right there. And that is what we call a red tickler right there. That's exactly what it was. And it wasn't like
00:54:37
Speaker
It wasn't late enough for Coleman to have relaxed. It was one of those, if it was a
00:54:50
Speaker
If it was an NFL game, it would be, oh yeah, that's clear roughing the passer, but, you know, you're not stopping at that point. You're just, you're running through the tackle. You're in it. Yeah. Like you can't really pull up so much, but, and, and yeah, that was, to be fair, that was actually the safest that he could have done. Cause he could have backed off that he actually probably got hurt worse. Right. Like that's when you like, I've seen that it goes badly. Like tear someone's knee up or, or knock them out, out, like unconscious.
00:55:20
Speaker
Yeah, just wrap them up around the middle and take them to the deck. So, yeah, free jacks wrap up the East and all roads go through New England. Other action, New York beat O'Glory at home. O'Glory is still pretty bad, apparently. But not here by 10. Yeah, I mean, to that back line, that's pretty shocking. Right. And it's, yeah, like, I get that you, you know, your rugby New Jersey scored 59.
00:55:47
Speaker
And that's kind of expected against the team, you know, with that, you know, especially the imports that they've brought in and the hollow and scuds. Right. And your opponent being maybe the worst team in the league, but to give up at the same time, you gave up 49 points to the worst team in the league. Yeah, they did. And that's not like it was all garbage time. It was 26, 21 and a half.
00:56:10
Speaker
So it was not a, it was not a blowout, you know, at the half. It wasn't until, you know, second half that they all just fucking opened it up, but they let it, you know, got them score too. So I'm not really, I'm not convinced by New Jersey here. No, I'm not either. Um, yeah. Go Gurney beat San Diego. Unfortunately, I think that more or less eliminated San Diego. Um,
00:56:33
Speaker
Utah just nearly lost it to the Guillotines. And again, I think that the tip of them. Rugby ATL did take care of business down at Silverback Park against the Arrows. And Seawolves got just enough to get over the Sabercats, but the Sabercats losing bonus point was what clinched them their spot in the postseason. So I believe all six spots have been given, have been written for ticket wise, but we still have
00:57:04
Speaker
Oh, the track is the Legion or they're done. Yeah. They have no, they have no points. They have no games left, unfortunately. And the sea wolves are too far back. Yeah, definitely. So yeah, Sabercats can't jump Los Angeles, but they can jump Austin, I believe. So although maybe not. No, they can't because Austin have 11 wins and Sabercats only have nine. I think that's the tiebreaker right there. Let's see. Most runs from all matches. So, so really at this point, the only thing the Sabercats can do is just
00:57:25
Speaker
We still have seating to figure out for certain ones.
00:57:34
Speaker
sit back and figure out which opponent they're playing. Yep. Los Angeles can get jumped by Austin, depending on results. So that'll be interesting. And then this coming weekend, New York and Atlanta all up in the air, who's going to who's going to host at this point? And this is all they're going to go back to back, huh? Yeah, they're going to play each other. Well, they're going to play or no. So it's so we're playing New York, obviously. Oh, OK.
00:58:00
Speaker
And Atlanta have their old friends, Nola, they're at home. And here's the thing. And this is an often off discussed topic, the whole rest versus rust thing, women have a bye week, I say played our boys in if for the most part, and if you need to pull guys at halftime, do so, but get them game time this week, because three weeks off is a long time to not play a game.
00:58:26
Speaker
And I'm always encouraging, you know, rest when we can, because it is a sport that you see, I would go the opposite. So here's what my thing is taking your.
00:58:39
Speaker
You're that, that, you know, that three weeks off in the play, I would have them as backups. I would start the, you know, start some shag because it's, it's for two reasons. One, you kind of want to get, you want to, you want them to see what New York are bringing because you want them to see, you know, see scuds and, and, you know, uh, the hollow and all that. Yeah. The wolves that we gave behalf to, right? They can't not play them for this. Um,
00:59:06
Speaker
And, uh, cause ATL are going to talk NOLA. I think NOLA, that, that team looked like it had given up to be fair. Um, both are simul kickoffs too. Yeah. And, uh, New York's going to have to keep up and so it'd be good for, you know, yeah, start like Wilson, but maybe, you know, give Boyle a start instead of WACA and have WACA come in later or maybe, or maybe even not just have him go through the emotions of the, uh,
00:59:36
Speaker
you know, warming up and getting ready for a match without actually playing because that, that sometimes is enough. You know, that's, that's, it's not just the not playing. It's the not doing anything that throws people off. Yeah. I think they need, these guys need action either way because it is a long time off and the rust is a thing. And I understand there's a risk with that, but like,
00:59:56
Speaker
It's either that or you and the other and the flip side of it is you have a couple of guys, you know, you have a handful of guys that are a little rusty and they're going to be playing a team that feels really good about themselves, whoever it is, whether it's Atlanta or New York. Yeah. And they're going to, you know, say what you will about it. Maybe it's not the momentum, but they're going to have some sort of mojo going. So the part that I missed was.
01:00:20
Speaker
if you start kind of a little bit of your shags. So this is, you're going to see what New York are going to bring. Go. This is their New York's going to treat this like a playoff game. So you get to see what they bring without them getting to see what you bring in a playoff game. And that to me is the difference. It's like you get inside information. It's not just keeping your guys off the pitch or, you know, not starting. It's about like, you know what? They don't get to see what we have with more at full strength. So they, you know, they've seen it, may have seen it before, but in the hollow hasn't scuds hasn't. So it's like,
01:00:50
Speaker
let's keep that mystique and we'll see what you got. They're the ones who are going to have to lay it out on the table. I don't think they definitely have to. They're like, hey, that's all you got? I just think we need to find a way to make sure that we don't get too rusty. So the best way to do that is unfortunately it's balanced. We'll find out. But in either case, I'm excited.
01:01:13
Speaker
It's going to be fun. Two weeks time, we'll be talking about playoff and playoff, but it's going to be awesome. And I can't wait for it. We were so close last year and finally we get this year. And so, all right, that does it for our rugby podness. We're going to jump over the fantasy pod in a little bit here. It'll be a nice and should be a fairly short one. Yeah. We can avoid flapping our guns for too long. Right.
01:01:40
Speaker
But yeah, so if you're not joining us on the if you're not joining us on the fancy one we'll catch you next week after this this big round of Premiership games plus plus the prep on the premiere 15th final trip first We'll get into it next week as well But until then if you're not joining us over there, we talked to you next week if we're gonna see you on the fantasy pod We'll see you over there. Everybody have a good one later girls