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S3 Ep225: RSS - September - Mango
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Join Dave, Jake, and special guest Mango as they talk about the holidays, milk, butter, Cyberpunk Edgerunners (no spoilers!) and more in this week's episode!
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Podcast Introduction
00:00:19
Speaker
How's it going, everyone? Welcome to another episode of Soapstone. My name is Jake and I'm joined by my co-host is always Dave. How's it going tonight, Dave?
Gaming Shyness and Community
00:00:28
Speaker
It's going okay. Feeling a little, little gamer shy. It'd be cool if we had another gamer in the chat. Yeah, that's unfortunate, isn't it? It'd be great if you just were silent the whole time. We're just like looking at you like, come on, please. I'm not actually here. The girls aren't real.
00:00:49
Speaker
This is true. Girls can't hurt you.
Tumblr's Quirky Culture
00:00:52
Speaker
Person who is real is Sane's Undertale. You guys were talking about it. Resume conversation, provide context if you want. So Tumblr has an obsession with sexy men. It's a whole thing. It's a whole genre. It has a wiki.
00:01:09
Speaker
and the past, I don't know how many days, weeks, they've been holding a Tumblr men, or Tumblr sexy men contest, and it's been like voting, et cetera. And then on the day of another recent historical event, because the sexy Tumblr people are also historical events, it was between Sans and someone else, and either he won or it's just the sheer
00:01:39
Speaker
What is it? Was it Reagan? Reagan's empire from Mob Psycho? Oh, I think it was. Because Rachel tagged me in a, hey, Toby Fox did like this fanfic between Mob Psycho and Undertale. I'm like, what the fuck? So I clicked and read it. I'm like, that seems like an odd standalone thing in my eyes. But now I have more context that it was actually a thing, apparently.
00:02:10
Speaker
Yeah, no, I think they were like toe to toe. And the same day that the queen died, this contest was going on. And Tumblr's like, did we kill the queen with the sheer shockwave of the Tumblr sexyman contest?
00:02:29
Speaker
I like how when you said recent historical event, I was like, oh, the anniversary of 9-11. And you're like, no, no. When you said like, I thought you're joking. You said like Reagan, Reagan, whatever his name is. I'm like, you're talking about Ronald Reagan. That historical event. That was a long time ago, Dave. Well, this was prior to September 11th, I think. Right. This was the ninth couple of days. Yeah. Pretty close. I just looked over at the
00:02:59
Speaker
the time in calendar at the bottom right, I'm like, quickly spin brain. What is what happened recently? Mm hmm.
00:03:07
Speaker
I
Tumblr vs. Reddit
00:03:08
Speaker
do I do think it's funny. I mean obviously This is a tumblr contest. So it's not meant to represent anything actually but right like Sans clothes if I recall correctly, he's basically got like trim shorts and Maybe sandals. I'm not sure if they're actually sandals or not. I'm gonna stand up for a moment here I don't know if I have the right colors, but he had
00:03:31
Speaker
He had a hoodie and gym shorts. Yeah, that's pretty much what I'm rocking. I'm just not wearing the slippers. Uh-huh. Because, you know, that would be hot. And then there's also a big bone skeleton. Yes, I guess. He's got good bones, honestly. That's what Tumblr goes for. I didn't even know that you could vote on things in Tumblr. I thought it was just like... I'm sure they used it. Instagram where you just posted images to your account or something. I have no idea how they did it.
00:04:02
Speaker
But they, they did it. I don't know how anyone does anything on Tumblr anymore. It's, it's been so long and that site is past hands and it's gone through so many controversies and content changes and stuff like that. But that's where you get.
00:04:22
Speaker
really good memes that you know your friends haven't seen yet because tumblr is its own ecosystem and it's like this this is not escaping here and if it does it'll take a while okay so it's a separate microcosm from reddit entirely then it's unhinged but it's not like full of racists unhinged it's we grew up on tumblr and we've lived here for 15 years unhinged
00:04:50
Speaker
I feel like Reddit is very mainstream by comparison right now. Like Facebook maybe like has a place. But as far as just like I saw it on like a YouTube comment, it's going to be like Reddit or Facebook. Right. Like.
00:05:10
Speaker
I literally saw a YouTube video earlier and in the comments, they were just like, uh, R slash nothing happens or something like that. They just like, it was one of those subreddits they use as a response to another comment on Reddit and they used it on Facebook or not Facebook. They used it on YouTube. And I'm like, if I cared about being on a hipster platform, I wouldn't
Halloween Hype
00:05:32
Speaker
be on Reddit anymore, but I don't care about that. Yeah. It's also, um, sans did win.
00:05:39
Speaker
Just so we all know. Oh, did we never actually explicitly say that? I couldn't remember who, but Sans was the winner. Long may he reign, things could happen. I mean, he's a good pick. I mean, I'm not sexually attracted to skeletons, but he's a good character for sure. And why is that, Dave?
00:06:00
Speaker
Yeah. I like flesh and I didn't mean that to come out as weird as it did, but like he's just bones. Is what you're saying, Davis, you don't like good bones. Good bones are a good basis. I wouldn't want to date somebody who like had no bones. They should have some, I would, I would say most bones. Right. But if they had flesh there, you'd have no bones about it. Mm hmm.
00:06:32
Speaker
Looks like they've not gone to the bone zone. It really feels like this should be the Halloween episode and it's not. I mean, I would definitely have one too. Halloween can be whenever you want it to be. That's been my life philosophy. I feel like it now has September through October.
00:06:56
Speaker
It's September 11th. It's part of Halloween. I mean, it was scary. So, um, yeah, I mean, checks out, uh, we went to, um, Sam's club pretty, pretty recently. I can say that because that doesn't dogs me at all. That's all over the place where, what you like Walmart, Walmart places. Uh, yeah, it's the United States and beyond at this point. Um, it'll be harder pretty soon.
00:07:25
Speaker
Uh, if he mentioned a location that's not Walmart, that'll be immediately identifiable regardless of the location. It's just like it's Amazon warehouse. Walmart product. Oh, you're in a local province of Hawaii. Gotcha. Yeah, right. It's just like, uh, I'm at the corner store. It's like, oh, like uppercase, the corner store. There's only one of those left. So, um, but yeah, they had a, they had both Halloween and.
00:07:51
Speaker
Christmas decorations out at the same time. Yeah, that was the picture that I put in the Discord. But you were very intent on the Harmonica Skelly boy, which was a wreath, I realized. And I'm like, I should have gotten the Skelly wreath. But that's OK. It did look kind of cool. But yeah. It seemed very much like Jack Skellington when he infiltrates Christmas Town. It's just like one lone skeleton around Christmas stuff. And he's like, eh?
00:08:21
Speaker
That's the problem though is like we see that stuff and, you know, good holidays. I think most people have a preference for Halloween over Christmas, you know, cause no one has good Christmas memories, obviously. Um, but, uh, like if you, as soon as those decorations come out, where interest is at the maximum, the prices are also at the maximum. Nothing has been discounted. You would be paying unnecessary retail for no reason, right? Like why is this a $300 skeleton?
00:08:51
Speaker
I do think that we should get a skeleton to put in the tree. And we should put a shirt on him of some sort. And I just think it'd be funny. He's just gonna wave. We could put him in like a little Santa outfit. Let the neighbors know that, you know, we're here to celebrate. We're the cool neighbors.
00:09:16
Speaker
Yeah, now that you guys have a house, you can do any type of cool decorations you want outside. Yeah, we can put pumpkins out there. In order to motivate ourselves, we do need to, as a precursor, be like, okay, we will reward ourselves with decorations if we pull weeds or something like that, right?
Decaf and Dairy Debates
00:09:37
Speaker
It's less fun, but it's the only way we're getting stuff done. We'll just say like, oh, I'm making room for this big ass pumpkin.
00:09:44
Speaker
There are like three weeds that I look at most days, and I'm like, I'm going to rip that out of the ground. It's taller than I am, but I'm going to rip it out. And then I won't be able to. I don't know. It's a weed. But I know I won't be able to, so I'll be like, hey, Jake, I need your help. I need you to rip this out of the earth.
00:10:11
Speaker
I had one large pass through for weeding, but it's been a pretty hot summer, and in the days where it wasn't hot, I thought of other excuses. That's not all done yet. It's not hot enough. What do you want to freeze out there? Right. I'll catch a cold. Going outside in 79? Geez, can't imagine.
00:10:38
Speaker
Yeah. I will say I am stoked for the eventual Halloween season. It's always fun. Yeah. Have some decorations in my apartment in the pile and I'm like, I'll do stuff with this. I'll actually even show you off, off camera. I have a candle jammed in a balls bottle and I don't know what I'm going to do with that, but I'm going to have a lot of them for the listeners. Balls is a beverage.
00:11:08
Speaker
There's a candle in there. I like that. That's good. I can confirm this is not a video podcast. See it. It's one of these blobs on my desk. It's a, we got it at Walmart like three years ago. It's a candle. It's like a spine and it's got like a red center. So when you melt it, it's like blood coming out of it. I've never lit it because I'm like, it's too cool. You should light it a little bit. Get some of the blood going.
00:11:38
Speaker
I know I've told this story so many times. I always forget when I've told it and who I've told it to. But the one time I was in Prague, there was a bar called the Alchemist bar. And it's very plague doctor aesthetic, old timey, steampunkish, a little bit. But they had a bunch of red wax candles as for their lighting. I'm like, oh, that's a cool vibe. But they had this giant serving tray. And on it, they had all these candles.
00:12:06
Speaker
But all those candles have melted and then they just kept stacking more candles. But by the time it was there, it was it had been going on for at least several years. It was this giant monolithic like multi candle thing of like wax. I didn't get a picture of it because I'm dumb, but it looks so cool. They kind of have an iron throne of candles, basically. Yes, it was really badass, but it's really cool.
00:12:33
Speaker
Wow. Yawning, yawning on the show. Jeez. Oh my gosh. It's past 7 p.m. I'm sleepy. Honestly, it's past noon. I'm kind of sleepy.
00:12:45
Speaker
speaking of kind of sleepy I recently purchased decaf and I've been weaving that into my day so I don't just like drink three cups of coffee and it's nice I like it it's also really nice to like have it a zero guilt like warm literally coffee beverage
00:13:07
Speaker
at night and then like I feel like there's some sort of psychosomatic I'm still feeling a little bit more alert for a time um because I think we were probably talking on the side and I was like there's still like five milligrams of caffeine and decaf um but uh I don't know not enough that should make a huge difference but it's just nice drink coffee all the time
00:13:35
Speaker
I do like the flavor of, I'm going to say coffee in general. I know there's like different styles of coffee, different flavors, but I always have liked that. I just don't usually think about it in the evening or at least not a hot beverage in the evening. I want it like a nice cold bev. You know, a seasonal one that we actually picked up now, it's not, it's not a hot beverage yet, but we got like a gallon of apple cider. Hell yeah. And like hot cider is, it's freaking great.
00:14:05
Speaker
Yeah, it's like shoveling snow and then having hot cider the best. Fuck Coco, get out of here Coco. That's actually really good too. We're going to lose our guest. I just, I love hot cider so much. So good. It is really good. It's definitely more sophisticated than Coco. Coco was like, I rubbed a piece of chocolate against this for a bit. Here you go.
00:14:29
Speaker
What's an apple? You squeezed it and you set it on fire? That's not very nice. That's kind of mean. The moral argument against apple cider.
00:14:44
Speaker
That was a worm's house. Oh, wow. Hot beverages in winter across the board. I mean, those are the only two I can really think of. Yeah. I mean, you've got like, well, it's still a cop. Like, so PSL, obviously, I don't know how you guys feel about the pumpkin spice latte.
00:15:06
Speaker
I don't like chai, so it only makes sense that I don't like pumpkin spice latte because they're the same thing with like one bonus ingredient. I can't remember, but it's literally the same thing. So I was like, that explains why I don't like pumpkin spice and like beverage. Yeah. It's not, it's not for me. It can be a lot. It just doesn't, doesn't taste very good to me. I'm just like, this doesn't taste like a pumpkin at all.
00:15:36
Speaker
Well, that's true, but I was making this remark earlier because pumpkin doesn't taste like you're not going to take a bite out of a pumpkin, right? It's like you don't know me. I guess not. But yeah, I mean, I like that. That still falls under coffee, I think, though. It's like it's chai coffee. No, I mean, pumpkins, latte is though.
00:16:05
Speaker
Is there any coffee in it? Yeah. Yeah. It's like coffee and milk, right?
00:16:11
Speaker
Yeah, latte is the milk, but I just, for me, I'm not a huge, at some point I just cut out a lot of dairy outside of cheese because never will I cut out cheese. Right. But it's the, I just liked, or I've had my coffee black for so long. Occasionally I'll do like a creamer or something, but I'm just so used to it not having that then to add like so much milk. I'm like, where's my coffee? You've deceived me.
00:16:40
Speaker
I had Taco Bell has this, so of course I've tried it, but the Cinnabon coffee, and it's their iced coffee, so it's very sugary. It tastes good. It's also a bit much.
00:17:00
Speaker
It's been a long time since like Starbucks, Caramel Macchiato at university type situation. And having this drink, it's very much too much, right? It's like, I'm trying to think of something holiday related, like candy cane milk or something like that. It's like just too much. My face immediately scrunched. I was like, yeah. Whoever made candy cane milk,
00:17:28
Speaker
Should be arrested along with the guy who invented wallpaper. They're in it together. That sounds awful. Probably. It's a weird business model. We haven't cracked it yet.
00:17:41
Speaker
So when I go by market, there's lots of different stands and whatnot, one of which has like different flavors of milk, because I guess like a local creamery or whatever. I'm like, ah, milk, plain milk, or someone call it vanilla, even though it's not. You got chocolate and then they get like blueberry milk and they have like orange milk and grape milk.
00:18:00
Speaker
I have to imagine it's like a creamsicle type deal. That sounds awful. But it's, again, very foreign to me. I tried the blueberry milk. It tasted good, but it's not something I'd go out of my way for, you know? Right. I think the most dessert milk could get for me is like a 9% almond. Nice dessert almonds.
00:18:29
Speaker
Now, that sounds good, but I mean, the problem is once you have flavored milk, what do you use it with, right? People just drink. There are people out there who will grab milk out of the fridge, pour it in a glass, and drink it, and it's not chocolate milk. That's safe because it's chocolate. It gets a pass, but anything else, they'll drink plain milk.
00:18:53
Speaker
They'll drink 2% whole milk. Just drink it. I'm like, that's disgusting. Those are two different things. I'm just saying. There's a common there. All right. Okay. Gotcha. Gotcha.
00:19:07
Speaker
but they'll just drink it and be like, wow, that was great. And I'm like, what is this? What's wrong with you? They're a villain. Villains drink milk. This is a fact. Google it. Did you not drink any milk growing up? Cause like I was raised on like, Oh, this is good for your bones. So well, I've heard of it in my grandmother's house and whatnot. I had to cause it's like, try to drink milk, doctor's orders. And I'm like,
00:19:34
Speaker
Ew. So my mom had mercy on me and bought skim milk for me, AKA water that looked at milk. And I'm like, this is great. Um, I still won't drink it, but I'll eat it with my cereal. Um, a nice bowl of huities. Mm-hmm.
00:19:58
Speaker
And then just do a quick shot of just milk at the end. So I didn't waste it. I'm like, that was disgusting. But the Wheaties were great. Yeah. It feels like we're so far removed from cream of the cow now, you know? I think it goes like a cycle every three years. As far as like, oh, people do our natural milk. Oh, now it's almond milk. Now it's oat milk. And three years will be something else. Yeah. I'm still on almond milk. I still think it tastes good.
00:20:28
Speaker
Oh yeah, I like both. It's like really low calorie compared to standard milk. And it's like, yeah, mother nature's teat. It's just water. It's pretty good. I like almonds. I don't like water, but it works out. No.
00:20:45
Speaker
If you search for villains drink milk, uh, the top result is a YouTube video. It's like why villains drink it or something. And it's the scene from like a clockwork orange and you're like, yeah, villains are nice.
00:21:01
Speaker
I think there's probably more to it. I think it's like this sort of disturbing corruption of purity thing, right? Because even in Skyrim... Do they have mommy issues? Milk? Well, as most things, it goes back to Skyrim.
00:21:17
Speaker
Even in Skyrim, you'll be accused of being a milk drinker by the brawny local Nords, right? It's like, oh, okay. Well, you haven't matured enough to move on to the grown-ups beverage, me, obviously. So still drinking milk like a baby? Probably not going to be able to kill me, huh? Baby? And then I die in like two seconds because it's there. Little baby boys. Got it.
00:21:47
Speaker
I mean, I guess we did have that growing up to a degree of like, Oh, you do this thing, you are, you're this demographic. Oh, you were a pink, you're gay. That was like the most classic in high school. I don't remember if the food thing was as big. I don't know. We all had to drink milk in elementary school. So it would be like if you called someone out for drinking milk, it's like, bud, you have it on your desk too. What do you want about? I'm sure that there is an argument to be made somewhere.
00:22:18
Speaker
that like milk for children is actually good, calcium and stuff like that. Particularly in school, you're like, maybe they're not getting it at home, whatever balanced diet. It's fine. It's still cow juice, right? Like at the end of the day, it is because we are not an enlightened society that we must continue to drink this. No, you could live without milk.
00:22:43
Speaker
Yeah. It's possible, but I mean like what else has calcium? I'm sure there's things, but I don't know about them because of big milk. Yeah. I wish for the future where everybody has supplement in the form of like gummies. It's just like a giant or like Flintstones vitamins. It's like everybody has like a candy version of something. Okay. Well, I was so disappointed when I tried Flintstones vitamins for the first time. At what age?
00:23:12
Speaker
That's like 14. Oh dang, this isn't the prime. This is what? Prime Flintstone era. Oh, I have no idea. I just, my grandma had them because like we were visiting. So she's like, I'll get some vitamins for
Bulletproof Coffee Craze
00:23:28
Speaker
the children. Like a good grandma as opposed to an actual good grandma that's just like infinite sugar.
00:23:39
Speaker
Yeah, listen, she smuggled chocolate into the United States for a set that was technically legal, so it's cool. Non-pasteurized chocolate. Yeah.
00:23:50
Speaker
because we didn't bring our normal vitamins because we didn't want to lose them. And we're like, okay, we'll eat whatever's presented to us. And they were like, oh, it's Flintstones. And I'm like, ooh, these are supposed to taste so good. And they were disgusting. I was like, these are so nasty. I did not eat any more of them for like the two weeks we were there. And I was like, no, no, mom, I already took my vitamin.
00:24:18
Speaker
I didn't. I lied. Oh my God. Straight to hell. Vitamin deficiency. You won't even be able to fight back due to the atrophy. Is that why I stopped growing? Doctor looks at your charts like you barely have any Flintstones. A severe Flintstone deficiency, unfortunately.
00:24:42
Speaker
Yeah. I was just going to say, I agree with you though, Dave, I agree with your point, earlier point before the Flintstone thing took off. I do want something like an all in one beverage or meal or placement. I mean, we were even literally doing that for a bit, right? We tried soylent. I've got the same protein, powder. It's been a while since I had any of that because I forgot about it. But it's so much more convenient than trying.
00:25:14
Speaker
Well, I just take supplements, so I'm good. But I mean, if they had something like that for calories too. That's called butter. Just eat some butter. Jenny's going to full Kiko. I'll do my supplements. I'll do a stick of butter. We're done for the day. Protein powder, mix in some butter, call it a day. Oh, I had the thought of you've got your vitamins, right? Pill form.
00:25:42
Speaker
You're like, oh man, I've got to take my vitamins. Let me melt some butter. And you do like a butter shot. Oh, butter shot, yeah. Ew, that's so nasty. It helps it go down really quick, but then the vitamins don't stay in your body. No, because you're going to throw up. That's like a bowl of coffee, right? Yeah, you melt like half a stick of butter into it.
00:26:05
Speaker
It's supposed to taste good, but you got to use Kerrygold, which to be fair, it smells delicious. I never understood people when they were like, yeah, I got Kerrygold butter. And I like wanted to take a bite out of it. I'm like, that sounds disgusting. But then the first time I got Kerrygold butter and I smelled it, I'm like, dang, I get it. I'd take a bite out of that if it wouldn't be the grossest thing I've ever done.
00:26:31
Speaker
You literally just visually see the cow eating the grass. When you have Kerrygold butter. Grass. That's what the kids want. I did want to ask you guys.
Cyberpunk: Edgerunners Impressions
00:26:50
Speaker
So cyberpunk, edge runners, no spoilers. Before people leave, we're not going to spoil anything. It came out recently. Yesterday, at 3am. I've watched it. Did you watch all of it? I've watched it. But I really like it.
00:27:14
Speaker
Like they did a good job as far as like making me care about the characters, making it cool, exciting, flashy and appropriate. And then from like what I remembered of the game, they'd have like some certain shots or scenes. I'm like, that's from the game. So it helped tie into the universe. Oh, yeah.
00:27:31
Speaker
I remember they did the live stream where they were like, we purposefully wanted to make sure it tied into the game. So they like made sure to take like little snapshots to be like, there it is. Yeah, I did that every time. I'm like, I know where this area is. Leonardo, Leonardo, just sitting on the couch pointing.
00:27:56
Speaker
I actually remarked to Jenny while we were watching it. So we haven't finished the whole thing. We got through like episode six, I think. I was like, it's almost like they really went out of their way to use locales from the game, right?
00:28:12
Speaker
There's there's an idea of here's a video game and it's a portrayal of the world and here's a show and it's going to be different, but it's going to portray some of the same scenes and stuff. And they went for like the same art style in some of the rooms. It's literally just like, well, like take a screenshot and then just kind of like paint over it a bit. And like that's going to be that's that's very close to what they did.
00:28:34
Speaker
Yeah. But like, again, if you've played through the game, like when they get to some of those scenes, it feels more immersive because you're like, I know exactly what this is. Yeah. Mm hmm. That's what I have. Sorry, go ahead. Oh, you're good. I was just going to say. Wow. OK, I guess I won't go.
00:28:53
Speaker
Well, I'll take remove sound. Put that in the footnotes. OK, which is going to be hilarious now because I'll remove the sound and now we're talking about it. But it almost took me out of it in a way, right? Because sometimes when I want to watch it, watch medium, I'm just like, OK, well, here's a cyberpunk story. But like it just made me think about the game.
00:29:19
Speaker
Instead of thinking like, ah, this is a super connected world. I was like, it's interesting that they took like this very particular scene from this one particular moment in the game. Like.
00:29:32
Speaker
I don't, this isn't a spoiler, but like the very first mission in the game has a very specific sort of like apartment locale sort of layout. And it's like, well, it's as soon as you reach Night City, actually. It's the first mission in Night City. It's the convergence point, I think, for the storylines from where we started out. And they use that exact same locale.
00:29:58
Speaker
And I was like, it's kind of weird that they just end up in the same place, right? Because it feels like the same apartment almost, as opposed to just like Night City style. Maybe that's because everybody who lives in the slums lives in the same type of thing because it's like mega corporate housing. That is true. Yeah. Yeah. That is established in the world. Right. So that's a good counter argument.
00:30:30
Speaker
It's good though. I'm enjoying it so far. Um, the only thing was like, they use Franz Ferdinand for the intro and I'm like, I've heard this song so many times. Uh, it is another thing that sort of takes me out of it. It's like a good song and then you have an edit for it and everything. It takes you out. Uh-huh.
00:30:53
Speaker
That's the only one I know by then. So I didn't clock that that was their song. Yeah, it's the biggest one by far. Take me out. But yeah, I was just like, I realized that I kind of.
00:31:07
Speaker
is particularly when watching anime. It's nice to have a degree of separation. If you were watching an anime and the intro was the Beatles, you'd be like, maybe this fits, but it's not as novel because it's the Beatles. It's funny to think of Franz Ferdinand being the front
00:31:29
Speaker
like song for this literally fantasy world, near future kind of, but it's interesting. I still enjoy it overall, visually and acoustically for the tracks in the episodes too. Yeah, we'll have to finish it. I'm sure we'll have like quiet agreement. I will save my three page thesis until after I'm done.
00:32:01
Speaker
We had an actual cyberpunk. So we run cyberpunk red, obviously. And we had a cancellation yesterday because someone couldn't make it. They were pulled into work stuff. It wasn't me this time. So it was kind of funny. It was just like, oh, do you still want to spend three hours in cyberpunk? Sure. Let's watch the show. There are those fun moments where it's like,
00:32:29
Speaker
Hey, that character reminds me of this character in our own group. And it's great because you're just sitting there and you're like Leo sitting on the couch a few times like pointing at us. We would do that. Relatable.
00:32:46
Speaker
What do you guys think about the impact of the show on, maybe not the reception of the game, it's probably too late for that, but like the longevity. This is a very adult type conversation, I guess, on the longevity or potential of the IP in CD Projekt Red's hands. I mean, they've got Phantom Liberty coming out, so if anything, they're probably hoping that it gets people hyped.
00:33:13
Speaker
be like, hey, look, we put out something that's in the cyberpunk universe. And I was going to say, and we didn't butcher it, but captions are rough. It's true. Yeah. Everything else is great. The captions are not great, which is unfortunate. Are you saying like CC closed caption or are you saying like the text they have on screen?
00:33:35
Speaker
the subtitles yeah yeah subtitles for it which another we should mention that other fun story but the um the one of the words that start out and jenny actually noted this was they say ice wall
00:33:50
Speaker
Which means something in Cyberpunk, right? It's like hacking. You'll have to find out what. Oh, okay. He said it never mind. Yeah. I said it very quickly, I guess. What's the opposite of a firewall? No, yeah, whatever. And in the English subtitles, it's literally eyes wall. I think it was either eyes wall or eyes was. Eyes was, something like that. It's one or the other.
00:34:19
Speaker
It's just like, that doesn't make any sense. And if you're listening... Eyes was is nowhere near right. It's like the start of a drunk story. So there's eyes was. I don't know. In the context of the rest of the sentence, it's like, what does that mean? But they're saying something else and then the subtitles are just... Someone was just listening to the dub and not going off the script.
00:34:50
Speaker
Or like they had an AI do it, I don't know, but it was bad a lot of times. If you're listening in English, like watching, listening, whatever, and then you have English subtitles on, it's really bad. We had to turn them off. We actually turned them off because it was just, I naturally kind of track the subtitles. And I was like, that doesn't sound right. And then I realized once we turned the subtitles off,
00:35:17
Speaker
I could actually understand the people better because they did all that. Question for Dave. Oh, sorry. Well, this actually leads exactly into my question. Oh, okay. Which one did you watch?
00:35:30
Speaker
Subs not dubs baby. Um, but I think that's how it was presented. Just when I went there by default. Yes. That that's the way it was for us too. Yeah. I might've hit a button cause I had pause it on the controller when we took a break and then came back. But, um, we, we got to like episode three or something and then we switched over to English. I will say I,
00:35:56
Speaker
For most anime, it's typically subtitles. There's a couple where I like English, like Ghost in the Shell. Give me English dub all the time. Also, Samurai Champloo, English dub. For some reason, those two are what I was used to. And the reason is Samuel L. Jackson.
00:36:16
Speaker
No, no, that's Afro-Samurai. That is Afro-Samurai. But I liked hearing some of the voice actors that I recognize. I don't know their names. But the character Faraday, who I think has been in the show by this time. Yeah. His Japanese voice actor also plays a character in Mob Psycho. Gotcha. In season two. And I was like, oh, shit. That's cool. So I'm fairly certain.
00:36:43
Speaker
So for the English dub, that same character I think is played by the guy who plays Gus Fring in Breaking Bad. I'm pretty sure. I should know who that is. I can't remember his name. I can picture the guy's face, but I can't remember his name. We'll give him the credit and actually look it up real quick. I don't pick out voice actors.
00:37:05
Speaker
Someone could be like, oh my gosh, we this guy's in this thing. I'm like, I would never have realized because I just don't pay attention to voice actors. I'm just like, okay, that's that's a person voicing the character. They're doing it. You're doing great, sweetie. And it's like, it's this person. It's like, I don't know who that is. I've never heard of their name before.
00:37:29
Speaker
I think I told Jake this, but I think I get that from my dad who was very much like he'd watch movies and be like, oh, this actor was in this other thing. Or he'd listen to something and be like, oh, this singer was in this other thing. I just picked up the weird pattern recognition from him. I just don't pay attention to celebrities or anything in that sort of circle. I'm just like, I will appreciate if they're in this movie and it was really good. Yeah, that person was in this movie.
00:37:55
Speaker
I will not think of them beyond that. I'm just like, I just, I don't care very much about celebrities or keeping up with what they're doing. There's some where it's like, okay, I recognize you. I recognize your name. And other times people are like, actress name. And I'm like, who the heck is that? And then they'll say the character they were. I'm like, Oh, okay.
00:38:21
Speaker
I remember you. It's Giancarlo Esposito. Esposito, yeah. But yeah, it's really funny because I was just like, I have associations for this character. He's come up a lot. I actually haven't seen Breaking Bad, but he also plays the dentist in Payday 2. That's true. And I immediately identify his voice. And I realized we said no spoilers. So we're not going to spoil anything, but we did spoil a character name in Faraday.
00:38:50
Speaker
Faraday's like white I guess sort of it's an anime so it's kind of hard to tell exactly but I think the character is white so it's really funny actually also to just be like his voice doesn't sound like a white guy particularly to me but it's also because I'm remembering who this character is I'm gonna have to google it yeah I must have missed them
00:39:13
Speaker
I mean, it's not like if you haven't seen Breaking Bad. Oh, wait. Are we not talking about the anime anymore? We are talking about the anime. We're talking about a particular voice actor. Also, Far Cry. I think he's a major villain in Far Cry 6 because I played five. I saw you hold up five. Oh, I played five. I hadn't played Far Cry. It was me giving you the bird on the other hand. Sorry.
00:39:50
Speaker
There's that person. But I'll I definitely also experienced that a bit with the the English dub. It's like I don't even know who the people are, but they picked very popular voice actors for a lot of the main roles. So like, who are they? Spoilers. He's so cool. I like that I'm asking who are they, but I'm like, I will have no idea who these people are. I just I don't I just don't.
00:40:09
Speaker
Oh, he's there that person. Okay. Yeah.
00:40:24
Speaker
Hey, guys, it's me, Mario. Mama Luigi. I just like, if you like somebody in something, or you like somebody's body of work, and then like use later,
Animation Nostalgia
00:40:40
Speaker
It would be funny if it was Chris Pratt actually.
00:40:41
Speaker
if you see like something else that they've done, or you're like, oh, I didn't realize that they did this other thing that I like, it's cool to just connect those dots. Like there's an old animation.
00:40:53
Speaker
The song is by
00:40:56
Speaker
I'm gonna guess on the band name and be wrong. They might be giants. There was an old lady who lived by a dock. That song. No, it's Arrogant Worms. But there's like an old flash animation that like, I think popularized it and was just on YouTube that I saw when I was in like middle school or high school. And it was like catchy and it was like, oh, I get what the joke is. Apparently that animation was done by somebody who I still watch on YouTube today who does Let's Plays. And I was like, oh, holy shit.
00:41:24
Speaker
I had no idea. But it's I like finding those little connections here and there. Yeah, I think it's part of it's part of the entertainment meta game. Right. It's like the people who are best for this are like I love me some Lance Riddick, Zavala type voice. Like I'm going to I'm going to get that right. Like I'm going to pick that one out. Very excellent and identifiable voice.
00:41:52
Speaker
But then there's other people who are like more subtle with it. Um, and like most of the time I can pick out like Matt Mercer, for instance. Right. But sometimes I can't, sometimes he does like a good enough job. I'm just like, Oh, are you sure? Like maybe kind of, no, I think that's him. I think that's him, but I've actually been wrong. And that's how you know that, uh, he does a pretty good job.
00:42:12
Speaker
She's just like, I'm pretty sure this is, it's like not even him. Right. That was Bastion for me. I still thought it was like, Oh, that's Ron Perlman. Nope. Not even close.
00:42:26
Speaker
I think Ron Perlman gets it a lot. And also he's identified a lot as like a voice actor because he's just like the brain navigates to it. He's like a he's a gravity well for voice acting, particularly he's a motherfucker. Yeah. And he got into it early. Right. Like he was the narrator for Fallout.
00:42:48
Speaker
one, right? Like that's that's ground floor. And so it's crazy to think of that. It's the same guy who narrates Fallout one. That's like, Hellboy. But it's a good anime careers. Yeah, so far it is. Well, to finish it at some point.
00:43:14
Speaker
I do think it's probably gonna help the game some. I think that there's probably too much of an attachment to the game. They use some of the same sound effects. Walk, don't walk. It's the same thing from the game. And I hear it and I'm immediately like, that's the video game sound effect. That's the video game UI, something like that. And I think it's just a little direct for me. I'd be fine with it being its own thing to a certain extent.
00:43:42
Speaker
Yeah, I think it can only really help CDPR at this point. It's a good thing VR is true. Yeah, right, pretty much. Yeah. Unless you have a PS4, in which case it sucks to suck, bud. You're not getting a Phantom Liberty, which is for the best because they barely made it playable on PS4. Oh, yeah. Does Phantom Liberty can be the DLC?
00:44:10
Speaker
Yep, expansion. I don't know what the difference is. It's all extra content you pay for it to me. So, but, uh, yeah.
00:44:22
Speaker
I'll be curious to try that at some point because I did want to go back and actually play cyberpunked again Now that I can run it with better feasible specs It's like lots of it was really good. We had a whole episode about it, but it was Just a lot of buggy issues So I'd love to go back without those and then try out new content. They have it because universe is cool as shit Oh, yeah
00:44:50
Speaker
Yeah, I continued my playthrough, I guess. Um, and then I stopped. I think I got, I don't know how many hours and I'm not very far in. I'm just, I got to a part. I'm like, I'm too tired to think about any of this. So what have you been playing outside of that? The Sims. Yeah. Creating your own cyberpunk universe in there.
00:45:16
Speaker
I made our whole cyberpunk crew and I kind of just let them, let the autonomy do its thing. Be like, whatever you all want to do, go for it, which results in them almost starving to death. So you got to like play God a little bit. There was some food in their path. Uh-huh. But then like two Sims were talking.
00:45:44
Speaker
And I'm like, oh, what are they talking about? Let's zoom in. And then they both get very excited, and they start walking away together. I'm like, what are you guys doing? And then they go into someone else's bed. It's not any of theirs. And they're just like, it's time to woo. I'm like, oh, no. How did this happen? This is a family podcast, just so you know. What a good first date, committing a crime. Uh-huh.
00:46:13
Speaker
Another sim got drunk, talked to another sim. And I'm like, all right, what are you two up to? I hover over. They're like, what I'm going to do next. And all it says is try for a baby. And I'm like, honey, no, we're not dealing with that. We're going to cancel that one. And it's so I love just letting them do their own thing and then, you know, keeping them from peeing themselves because they will refuse. They'll go to they'll go to bed.
00:46:44
Speaker
With a full bladder, like, hey, bad things are going to happen in two hours if I don't use the bathroom. And they'll be like, I'm going to bed. I'm like, you are a child. Go to the bathroom. I beg you. Do they have any sort of like stats for intelligence or is it just chaos theory for how they operate?
00:47:06
Speaker
It's just whatever RNG, AI, whatever is controlling them is like, this is what I'm going to do. They have whims just like based on like their interests, likes and dislikes, et cetera, et cetera. But whether or not they'll use the dank bathroom is just in the wind. Also, I made an Olive Garden. So I take them to the Olive Garden sometimes. And it's really good. Oh my gosh.
00:47:38
Speaker
It's beautiful. I heard this from her. It's apparently going free to play, at least the base game.
00:47:49
Speaker
What is included in the base game? Because I know there's a lot of expansions for Sims, right? A Sims. Like a thousand dollars worth of expansions. Well, worth is a strong word, but a thousand dollars in cost. Yeah, you know, worth what they think it's worth. But I don't know, you get the game and then expansions if you're like, I want to add seasons, there's a season expansion.
00:48:20
Speaker
And then you can go snowboarding, you get weather. None of it's necessary, especially because mods exist. They just adds extra stuff. Bass game is good though, which some people would burn me for saying, but I haven't played The Sims since PC.
00:48:44
Speaker
a little bit on PS2 and all I did was try to burn the repo man alive so I don't think that counts. It didn't work. So I stopped playing.
Gaming Monetization Woes
00:48:57
Speaker
I don't think we tear into the Sims enough, though, because I know we've talked about Call of Duty and its terrible monetization scheme. And Sims is peak EA, right? They did that whole Battlefront thing where they're loot boxes, and people were like, this is terrible. And then they made a comment on Reddit, and that was the most downvoted comment in existence. And they just gloss over the Sims because it's been bad.
00:49:25
Speaker
Like we're call of duty is like we're gonna remake the game Every year the Sims is like every three years or so We'll remake the game and then remake all of the DLC and then charge you for all of the DLC again And it's literally the same things. It's like nightlife Sims pets Sims vacations Whatever they want to call it like sim school, which is University or whatever the same expansions. Oh, yeah, it's all the same
00:49:53
Speaker
Uh-huh. They do the Pokemon thing where it's like, hey guys, same game, but like different shiny things inside. And it's like, hot dang, I'm a sucker, let's go. Sign me up.
00:50:07
Speaker
I would like to assume or hope that I don't have any of that in me. I definitely don't jump the gun on certain things like Pokemon. I'm sure I do have an U Shiny somewhere though, where I just get enthralled by it. Even though I know, logically, this is no value to me. It's just that temporary like, wouldn't it be cool if
00:50:30
Speaker
I don't think you're supposed to jump the gun on Pokemon, though. That's discouraged in the community. Well, I mean, people who use a Pokeball, sure. Do they have guns in the Pokemon world? Get in the ball. I don't think I've ever seen a gun in that show. You've really never seen a basket used to threaten the kids?
00:50:58
Speaker
Right? Violence. Violence, I think. Oh, that old classic violence, I got you. I don't know if I've ever seen a gun in Pokemon. I think they just pit fight with animals to solve their problems. Respectable. It's an advanced society. Speaking of Team Rocket, actually, I didn't know this, but again, I didn't really track Pokemon because my parents thought they were demonic. But whenever they pose, they pose in ours.
00:51:29
Speaker
Did you guys realize that anytime that they're standing Team Rocket, even in an individual manner, they'll pose their hair and their body in an hour. I'm going to need you to send me an image on Discord. I believe Rocket Pose. I know I've definitely seen them like pose formally pose like that, but not like just stand like that. I mean, so this is the most this is the most popular one.
00:51:52
Speaker
I'll post it in Discord and the people who are here in our, again, audio podcast will probably not get much out of this, so they're going to have to follow along at home. I don't think it's always an R. They have, maybe not always, but there's a lot of them. I saw like a lot of examples. Okay, Jesse's hair is doing a lot of work on that. I see, I see it. It's carrying it. Team Rock, it's rocking.
00:52:19
Speaker
Yeah. But also guns do exist in Pokemon. I'm looking at a picture of an old man pointing one at Ash. It's the old man's cyberware. You know, it might not have been shown on TV. Maybe that's why I don't remember it. Get out of my house, boy. Fan Pokemon episode with gun.
00:52:43
Speaker
I wonder how many Banto point one episodes they have. I know there's a couple, but that was also like mythos when you were a kid. Oh yeah. Did you ever see like the Pokemon episode with a tentacruel? They wouldn't show it in other countries. Okay. I'm going to have to go back and watch the show. And I say that knowing I will not get past the first episode. Why would you, why would you ever?
00:53:07
Speaker
There's like an episode. I don't know if it was like a bikini contest, but I think this is one of the one of the band ones. So, you know,
Banned Nostalgia
00:53:18
Speaker
they had Jesse in a bikini. They had James in a bikini. And then they had how old is Misty? 12, 12 year old Misty in a bikini for a bikini contest. And I think they realized, hmm, maybe that's a problem.
00:53:36
Speaker
But it's okay because she's a water trainer. Oh, you're right. What are you going to wear? Going out day clothes, dry clothes when you have like a dratini? No, no, no. Just going to how old? It's going to put me on a list. You know what's funny about this. Oh, she's 10. Okay. What's a 10 year old know about bikini contests?
00:54:00
Speaker
I looked this up and according to Bulbapedia, the actual reason the episode is banned, because it was apparently the first one banned in all countries outside Asia, is because James cross-dressed with inflatable breasts for a beauty contest, and it was the cross-dressing.
00:54:20
Speaker
that actually got this episode banned. It makes sense. They would only encourage 10 year olds in anime to be sexy and they do. The cross dressing though is just too far. Anime does some weird stuff. It does. A lot of the time. Yeah.
00:54:42
Speaker
There was, um, this is jumping back to Cyberpunk for a second, but, um, Jenny was telling me about how, like when they were, cause they, they streamed, I guess some of the, some of the early episodes, like right before they launched it. The first three episodes the day before it came out in English, um, and edited.
00:55:04
Speaker
Yeah. And there's like a couple of things that happen there, which I'm not going to go into detail on, but like they're not the explicit parts, but they're still very much adult in nature. And she was remarking that people in the chat were just like, you can't do that. Oh yeah. This was with the, they showed the NSFW trailer on Twitch. And I was like, are you sure about that? Has this been edited? It was not.
00:55:33
Speaker
And like when it reached certain parts, if you've seen the trailer, you probably know. But like Twitch chat was just like, to us, to us, to us. And it was very, very funny. It's just like, they don't know, they don't know. Why didn't anyone tell them?
00:55:58
Speaker
That's gotta be weird. Like you want to promote your thing on Twitch and then you're just blatantly going against their guidelines and it's like, uh-huh. Which is why when, if you watch the like three episode premiere on their Twitch channel, they specifically edited certain things out.
00:56:21
Speaker
And I was like, ah, I see someone told them that you can't put that on Twitch. Good for them.
00:56:30
Speaker
I'm just imagining that preliminary conversation, though. CDPR and Netflix are like, hey, we want to show the NSFW cyberpunk thing on your platform. And they're like, the second word we get, we like that. That's what we want. What was that first thing you said? Can we see the killer? NSFW cyberpunk.
00:56:53
Speaker
It's a code name. Can we see the trailer real quick? Just see what's in it? And they're like, sorry, we're going live. Dave, I've just noticed in Zencaster your name. Yeah. It's been this long and I just looked at it. Anyway, unrelated.
00:57:19
Speaker
It used to be because I'll change it up every like two months or when I feel witty or like, oh, this would be a funny little thing. So for like a good three or four months, it was pocket prints, which is like a term for somebody who's shorter, like shorting pocket prints. But because of like the browser width or just how long the name was, it always showed up as pocket P dot dot dot. And nobody assumed the second word was Prince. I'll tell you that.
00:57:46
Speaker
No fingerprints. Good Animaniacs reference. So what is that? For anybody who's wondering, it is Divas. What's nice is the main protagonist of Edgerunners gets to join the Council of Daves. Wow, spoilers.
00:58:14
Speaker
They'll never know the protagonist's name in the trailer. Yeah, I'm sure that's not me. The precursor, literally the description before you start watching it. I know so many people with the name David and I'm just like, you're all part of the council of Dave's now. And I, you each have to have a unique name. You all can not be called the same thing.
00:58:40
Speaker
Listen, as far as I know, I've had that name first before anybody else. That's true. As far as recorded memory. Yes.
00:58:51
Speaker
Yeah, I actually remember this is this is a video game podcast. So in Fallout three, there's an area called the Republic of Dave.
Fallout Fun
00:59:02
Speaker
And it's basically just like it's just like a guy and his family. And he's just like, I should be the leader. We should call this place the Republic of Dave. And then eventually he was like,
00:59:17
Speaker
A democracy is a more fair form of government and then just like held an election that he then immediately won because no one else ran. And it's really funny. There's a quest where you can kind of like screw with their election and stuff like that and potentially get someone else elected.
00:59:37
Speaker
But I think I took a picture of that when I got there in Fallout 3. I was playing the Tale of Two Wastelands joint Far Cry 3. Not Far Cry 3. That'd be impressive. Fallout 3 and Fallout New Vegas. I sent it over to Dave. I was just like, boom. Now entering the Republic of Dave or whatever.
00:59:58
Speaker
It's fun. I like having a namesake to a degree in other places. Granted, my name is fairly common, but... What?
01:00:11
Speaker
Like anytime I see like mango at the store or like mango something, I always have to be like, yeah. And then I don't I don't spam it because I'm like, I'm sure she gets this a lot. And sometimes it's just like the food mango. All right. You're going to get more mango pictures from the grocery store. Good. It's freaking triple dog dairy. Yeah.
01:00:34
Speaker
I can empathize with that Dave cause there's like, it would be a time I went to a McDonald's or something, right? Yeah. It's like, Oh, do you want like a dessert or something? And like they're smoothie flavors. They've got like mango smoothie and they have like chocolate shake or something like that. Right. And it's like, do you want anything to eat? Like you want anything for dessert? And she's like chocolate shake. And I'm like, what?
01:00:56
Speaker
Part of me is internally disappointed for a second. Just like the briefest moment. And that's kind of just the nature of not playing into or playing into the stereotype. It's the same thing as when people are just like like the State Farm commercial. And I'm like, absolutely not that. Yeah. Right. But to be fair, I don't think I would ever drink something called a Dave Smoothie. And I would question the contents of it greatly. Yeah. But now I do want a smoothie.
01:01:27
Speaker
You want to call the gym? I go to does have a smoothie. Full stand. Nice. That's how they get more of your money. They siphon off. Yes. I miss the we went to L.A. Fitness at one point, right? That's what it was. Mm hmm. I miss movies. They put guava in it. It was really good. That's all the lady was very nice. I remember she was great. I hope she's thriving. Mm hmm.
01:01:56
Speaker
Yeah. I mean, it's a very smart market, right? It's like people who are physically exhausted due to exercise, like nothing is going to taste better than literally like, like fruit sugar and a smoothie protein in it. And they sell their stuff there. It makes sense to have it there in one place because yeah, for the convenience, you'd rather get it there than somewhere else. And they're good. Yeah. They made a good smoothie.
01:02:27
Speaker
And you could tell yourself, Hey, I'm just taking a little break. I'm going to eat this. Then I'm going to get back to exercising. Oh yeah. Like grab the smoothie and walk out of the gym. Love it. Love a good full, uh, full, I guess it would be like 12, 14 ounces of smoothie before going back to exercise. You
Smoothie Reminiscence
01:02:48
Speaker
know what I want to do on a full stomach? Let's do some cardio.
01:02:54
Speaker
Oh, no. I almost went today, but today was not a good day for it. Maybe tomorrow. I thought better of it. Probably tomorrow. That's fair. That's the spirit. Probably tomorrow. Speaking of probably tomorrow, this would be a great segue. I'm going to pocket that one actually and do the thinking thing first. Thank you, Jenny, for being a guest on the podcast.
01:03:23
Speaker
Yeah, glad to have you back. Thank you for handing over all of the rights to the podcast. I was going to say, where is this going? I appreciate it. We had a good run, Dave. Yeah, but hey, we don't have to do any edits or posting anymore. Jenny can do all that. We'll send it over. Yeah, no problem.
01:03:45
Speaker
You're going to have to buy another Reaper license though, because ours only works on two computers. Oh, does it actually? It does, yeah. Oh, shit. No, listen, we've got a Halloween party coming up, right? I just have to sign into Dave's computer, go to the settings, get his password, and we're Gucci.
01:04:08
Speaker
That's fair. I'm going to lock my computer. That's a good idea in general. Which I would do anyway. I know one person at LAN party didn't lock their computer and they got a message posted to Discord because of it. But I think that was the full extent. Yeah, it's become more tame over the years, which I think is fair. If you've got your computer in a place with a lot of people, just lock it before you go. Yeah.
01:04:38
Speaker
Not a bad idea. We're here to represent IT security. Sponsored by, I don't know, Windows Defender. Are people sending you phish links in your email? Don't click on those. There's your phishing information. There you go. Please touch your local wildlife preserve for more information about phishing.
01:05:07
Speaker
Or talk to a friend of the podcast, Ian. Who the heck is that guy? What the heck is an Ian? All I know is about some guy. He does things with the fish. Oh my gosh. What those are? Nobody can say it.
01:05:28
Speaker
All right, well, back, I'm gonna take that out of the pocket. Speaking of running out, we're running out of ideas. You guys should send those in to soapstonepodcast.gmail.com. It's
Podcast Wrap-up
01:05:40
Speaker
an email address. Or you can join the discussion on Facebook, which is much like Reddit in the earlier example. That's a very poor, low concentration callback to the beginning of the episode when we talked about those.
01:05:55
Speaker
Facebook.com slash soapstone podcast and as always we'll see you in the next one. Have a good night. Bye.