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Autumn's Kaleidoscope: Kentucky's Fall Colors
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Join us as we delve into the breathtaking beauty of Kentucky's fall foliage. Discover the science behind the changing leaves and explore some of our favorite plants that put on a stunning show in autumn.
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Urgent Cheese Conversations
00:00:17
Alexis
I just need to share this little piece of information with ah you all and the wonderful listeners out here that you...
00:00:19
atack2010
You should.
00:00:23
Brett
such urgency yeah you were you didn't commit a crime did you because i don't want to know oh okay okay sorry
00:00:24
Alexis
you it well When you hear it, you'll you'll understand.
00:00:24
atack2010
Yes.
00:00:25
Jessica
Your breathing kind of heavily.
00:00:29
Alexis
did bunch pro Do No, listen.
00:00:30
atack2010
That thing is an accelerant.
00:00:32
Jessica
Are you okay?
00:00:33
Alexis
It's about cheese, people.
00:00:34
Jessica
Blink twice.
00:00:36
atack2010
That's why she's breathing heavily. She always does not smell cheese.
00:00:38
Jessica
It's cheese.
00:00:39
atack2010
Always.
00:00:41
Alexis
Listen, do you know how much protein is in Parmesan cheese?
00:00:43
atack2010
Did you say wood fiber or protein?
00:00:45
Alexis
Like it's a lot and I just feel like protein in Parmesan cheese.
00:00:50
Jessica
You know what?
00:00:50
atack2010
Okay.
00:00:51
Jessica
That makes me feel so much better after feeding my children spaghetti and just piling that Parmesan cheese on top.
00:00:55
Alexis
Yeah. Yeah.
00:00:57
Brett
no Getting gains.
00:00:57
Alexis
I have a, I have a block of Parmesan cheese and for ah for my breakfast as my snack during the day.
00:01:01
Brett
Every morning.
00:01:02
Jessica
for breakfast.
00:01:05
atack2010
Seven o'clock.
00:01:07
Alexis
And i I suddenly feel so much better knowing I'm getting so much protein in this little chunk of Parmesan cheese.
00:01:07
atack2010
It's the 6.34, gentlemen.
00:01:08
Brett
And I'm jacked.
00:01:13
Alexis
I'm having as my little, little snacky snack during the day.
00:01:15
Jessica
Oh, nice.
00:01:16
Alexis
And it's like, who needs, who needs protein bars when you could just have Parmesan cheese?
00:01:21
Jessica
You could just eat a block of Parmesan cheese.
00:01:22
Alexis
That's what I'm saying. ah black of parmean cheese
00:01:25
Brett
Well, I'm imagining you go into the like go to the gym, like the bros have shakers that they're shaking up their pre-workout, but yours is yours is just one of those shakers of Parmesan cheese.
00:01:25
Alexis
as
00:01:29
Alexis
Yeah, just have like my Yeah that I just I imagine me like bringing in like but's ah Isn't there a comedian bit that's something similar like
00:01:34
Brett
And you shake it and then you just take it, and you then you cough and it just like ah pat like a dust dust out into the, whoa.
00:01:38
atack2010
You like use out. I love it.
00:01:46
Brett
I don't know.
00:01:46
atack2010
There's lots of means where people are doing challenges.
00:01:48
Brett
There is, yeah, there is, I just did it actually.
00:01:50
atack2010
Yeah.
00:01:50
Jessica
Yeah.
00:01:50
Alexis
Oh, right.
00:01:51
atack2010
Yeah.
00:01:51
Alexis
Sorry, Brett. Sorry.
00:01:52
Brett
There is, it's very fresh.
00:01:52
Alexis
No, I just imagine me like walking into a gym, you know, with my gym bag and just like a, like a half a wheel of Parmesan cheese, just kind of like eating it off, off the wheel.
00:01:53
atack2010
Yeah.
00:02:01
atack2010
You say your cheese bag or gym bag.
00:02:03
Brett
Off the wheel.
00:02:04
Alexis
Like I have a separate bag.
00:02:05
atack2010
I walk into the gym with my cheese bag.
00:02:06
Alexis
It's called my cheese bag.
00:02:06
atack2010
Yeah, I love it.
00:02:07
Brett
It's the cheese bag.
00:02:07
Alexis
Yeah. I just needed everybody to know that.
00:02:08
Brett
Yeah. You can grate it onto a plate and there's no one there to tell you, you no one know to tell you to stop.
00:02:10
atack2010
and
00:02:11
Jessica
That's important information.
00:02:13
Alexis
To stop.
00:02:14
Brett
Like that's not enough actually.
00:02:15
Jessica
It's like going into Olive Garden and then the poor waiter is just like standing there and they keep like putting more cheese and it's like, keep it coming.
00:02:20
Alexis
Keep turning. you
00:02:22
atack2010
They think that you didn't hear them when really you did, you're just waiting.
00:02:22
Jessica
Keep coming.
00:02:22
Brett
Yeah.
00:02:26
Jessica
Yeah, I just want a mountain of cheese.
00:02:26
Brett
Yeah.
00:02:26
Alexis
They're like, yeah but tell me when.
00:02:28
Brett
You may want to have a reserve on hand because your arm is going to get tired.
00:02:30
Alexis
Just, you know what, leave it at the table.
00:02:31
Jessica
It's unlimited, right?
00:02:32
Alexis
Just leave it at the table.
00:02:33
atack2010
Leave the grinder, leave the grinder.
00:02:35
Alexis
Leave the grinder like leave the bottle, but it's leave leave the grinder So anyways, I just wanted to share that because I don't feel like ah My wonderful life partner appreciates that information as much as he should so I thought you the listeners will ah So, there you go
00:02:36
Jessica
Leave the block of cheese.
00:02:39
Brett
leave the grinder.
00:02:43
atack2010
Hoagies and grinders, nobody remembers that.
00:02:55
Brett
So what the what the bond of marriage could not achieve the bond of podcast has of ah affirmation about the Parmesan, the protein content of Parmesan cheese.
00:02:59
atack2010
Yeah.
00:03:04
Alexis
Yeah, yeah, there you go.
00:03:06
Brett
And even Parmesan cheese could not make throwback to last episode, could not make candy corn good.
00:03:11
atack2010
No.
00:03:11
Jessica
oh
00:03:13
atack2010
I'm glad that there are others that share my disdain for that culinary failure.
00:03:13
Alexis
He's such a hater. I just want to like, what, but like, okay, when's the last time you had candy and corn?
00:03:20
Brett
I try it every year to remind me of the rage that I feel.
00:03:21
atack2010
On purpose, there's sadness, sorrow, and regret.
00:03:22
Jessica
they
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Alexis
I don't believe you.
00:03:24
Jessica
They have different flavors now, too, of candy corn.
00:03:29
atack2010
There's only three flavors.
00:03:29
Brett
Yeah.
00:03:33
Jessica
oh Oh gosh.
00:03:35
atack2010
you
00:03:35
Alexis
I hate that you- I hate that how good that was. I'm so mad about it.
00:03:39
Brett
The rings on the candy corner to remind you of the circles of a hell that your area Dante's candy cone But it yeah
00:03:43
atack2010
Yes, it's Valentine's candy corn.
00:03:45
Alexis
Jessica, I thank you for not hating candy corn with me.
00:03:47
Jessica
Yeah. I'm like, I'm like on the fence about it. I like will have a piece. And like I told you, I'll eat it with some peanuts and it's nice. My husband loves it. He buys tons of it. And of course my two boys love it because it is pure sugar.
00:04:03
atack2010
Yeah, you know, sometimes the little pumpkins, if they're fresh, like I don't like actively throw up in my mouth with the little pumpkins, like I get a fresh one.
00:04:09
Jessica
Oh.
00:04:09
Brett
ray Ray, don't go back on it now. We have drawn a line in the sand.
00:04:12
atack2010
No, no, I'm not going back on candy corn. The only thing they're good for is making vampire fangs under each gum.
00:04:18
Jessica
You know, a lot of people use it for decoration, have you noticed that?
00:04:21
Brett
I do like the aesthetic of candy corn a lot.
00:04:23
atack2010
I do.
00:04:23
Brett
I love the way it looks.
00:04:26
atack2010
Because when I get a bag, I throw it out in the yard and it looks great.
00:04:26
Alexis
Okay.
00:04:27
Brett
like you you eat eat with and With candy corn, you you eat with the eyes first and then you stop.
00:04:29
Jessica
We throw it in the yard.
00:04:31
atack2010
Yeah, I just throw it in the yard.
00:04:34
Alexis
I, uh, in October, I start making candy corn color, like themed bouquets.
00:04:34
atack2010
It's very colorful, Brett. Yeah.
00:04:38
Alexis
So it's like white, orange, and yellow flowers.
00:04:39
Jessica
oh
00:04:42
Alexis
There's a divide.
00:04:42
Brett
Yeah. I like, I like, I love the look. I love the nostalgia. I wish they were good, but I'll do it on the podcast.
00:04:48
Jessica
You'll have to get like the caramel apple ones.
00:04:49
Alexis
I just, can I, I want to be present for your 2024 trying of candy corn.
00:04:55
Brett
How about that?
00:04:55
Jessica
OK.
00:04:57
Alexis
Okay, okay.
00:04:57
Brett
I won't, I won't chew into the microphone because I know people hate that, but I will.
00:05:01
Alexis
Well, you know, maybe it's an ASMR moment, so.
00:05:03
Brett
I don't think so.
00:05:05
atack2010
that Gagging is not an ASMR moment.
00:05:06
Brett
I think that that's mis of misophonia. Is that what that's called?
00:05:09
atack2010
yeah
00:05:09
Brett
And when people hate like the sound of like mouth noises and stuff.
00:05:12
Jessica
Hmm.
00:05:13
Brett
Yeah.
00:05:13
Alexis
It's a whole genre of ASMR.
00:05:16
Jessica
Yeah.
00:05:16
atack2010
It's called marriage, right?
00:05:17
Brett
This is negative though. Yeah. This is like, they'll, they will cancel us and give us a zero star review.
00:05:24
atack2010
we we we We cannot afford that.
00:05:25
Brett
So, but you know, I like that.
00:05:25
Alexis
But speaking of colors, candy corn, I was like waiting.
00:05:28
Jessica
Yeah, there you go. Connect it.
00:05:29
atack2010
Right into it.
00:05:30
Alexis
I was like, he will not steal this from me.
00:05:35
Alexis
that The colors of candy corn often remind me of the colors of fall trees, of of the splendor of autumn.
00:05:36
atack2010
You should not have it.
00:05:37
Brett
I will not, I will not. I stand down.
00:05:45
Alexis
And I don't know about you all, those yellows and oranges, maybe a little bit of purples and reds thrown in there.
00:05:46
Jessica
It is reds. It's prime time.
00:05:53
atack2010
Yeah, all the good stuff.
00:05:53
Alexis
We're talking about fall trees today. If you haven't figured that out, fall colors.
00:05:56
Brett
Fall color.
Fall Foliage Fascination
00:06:00
Brett
You know I'm a tree, I'm a tree boy.
00:06:01
Alexis
So who can explain why leaves change color in the fall?
00:06:07
atack2010
Oh, the color is always there.
00:06:07
Alexis
Who can give me the science?
00:06:11
atack2010
And I love that fact.
00:06:11
Alexis
Oh, shocker.
00:06:14
atack2010
The colors are always there.
00:06:15
Alexis
Mic drop.
00:06:17
atack2010
Yep. that's That's the one. i When we do programs with kids, it's hard to make them believe that. I'm like, no, no, it's like so many things in life. It's kind of in layers. It's always present.
00:06:27
atack2010
It's just that the dominant color associated with chlorophyll just subsides at a point.
00:06:34
Alexis
And it subsides because the tree stops making food.
00:06:37
atack2010
Yes, it's a...
00:06:38
Alexis
And so it's like, I don't need this green chlorophyll no more.
00:06:38
Jessica
food
00:06:40
Jessica
Because it's getting cooler, right?
00:06:41
Alexis
Let my true colors shine.
00:06:43
atack2010
Yeah.
00:06:44
Jessica
Because it's starting to get cooler, right? And it's telling them it's time, time to change.
00:06:49
atack2010
We talked a lot about seasonality on this show. And this is a perfect time to say it once again. ah But it has to do with that. Different plants have different seasons. And it just so happens here in Kentucky, a lot of our plants are very heavy on the seasonality.
00:07:04
atack2010
So you have lots of trees that are not stopping, but slowing down all in winter season, ah day length and temperature.
00:07:09
Jessica
Uh huh.
00:07:13
Alexis
pulling those sugars down into that root system, pulling them down and exposing.
00:07:17
atack2010
Yep. Really, it's just the trees being beautiful for us, Alexis. and That's truly what it is. Don't get all biological.
00:07:23
Alexis
Okay, get in your feels about it.
00:07:27
atack2010
Thank you. Thank you.
00:07:27
Brett
Yeah, if it if it was all this functional and as you informational process, why would it be so beautiful for just no reason at all?
00:07:27
Alexis
um love
00:07:28
Jessica
But then
00:07:38
Alexis
Because the anthocyanins say so, that's why.
00:07:39
atack2010
A little
00:07:42
Brett
Yeah, I think the the the real the real magic is like the way that our brain finds it beautiful.
00:07:43
atack2010
bit of science. and
00:07:48
atack2010
Yes.
00:07:49
Brett
You know, it's like this is this thing that they're just doing.
00:07:50
Alexis
That's true.
00:07:52
Brett
And
00:07:53
Alexis
I mean, have you ever met somebody who's just like fall color is ugly?
00:07:53
Jessica
I just live in life.
00:07:56
Alexis
I don't think you have.
00:07:57
Jessica
No, I haven't.
00:07:58
atack2010
I've never heard that before, Alexis.
00:08:00
Alexis
Yeah.
00:08:00
Brett
I was less impressed by with it with it when I was a kid.
00:08:03
Jessica
I've heard, heard people complain about leaves, having to pick them up afterwards, but that's good too, right? Just let them, let them be, let things overwinter in them, let them break down and provide nutrients back to the soil, right?
00:08:14
Brett
Yeah.
00:08:17
Brett
Yeah, that's ah that's great news for eco-friendly people.
00:08:17
Jessica
Some organic matter.
00:08:22
Brett
That's great news for lazy people. I happen to be both of those people.
00:08:25
Alexis
effects.
00:08:25
Jessica
Right.
00:08:26
Brett
So like picking up a bunch of leaves and and moving them for me. And now I'm not a turf grass guy, Ray.
00:08:31
atack2010
I was going to say, don't let a mat down on your 3-inch, like, wet, heavy mat on your lawn if you want to.
00:08:38
Brett
You can't see it, but Alexis is covering her face in rage at just the thought of selectively choosing turf.
00:08:41
atack2010
Yes.
00:08:46
atack2010
Everybody has a multi-mower now, so yeah.
00:08:46
Alexis
Although I will take your leave.
00:08:49
Jessica
I will, I, my favorite quote is as long as it's green and a reasonable height, I'm happy. So you can imagine like my lawn at home might just be all wild violet or other things.
00:09:00
Jessica
And I'm fine because it's green. So the leaves aren't going to bother me if they're out on my lawn.
00:09:02
atack2010
Whatever your preference, yes.
00:09:06
Brett
But the other the other type of of ah more out there garden with the leaf stuff is if you have a moss garden, you don't really want leafies on top of it.
00:09:14
atack2010
Yeah.
00:09:14
Jessica
True, true.
00:09:15
Brett
But they don't have a whole lot of people with moss gardens out there necessarily. But yeah, I have a little some little patches of moss that I've been cultivating, but it doesn't stay quite wet enough back in back in my
00:09:21
Alexis
That's the dream.
00:09:32
Alexis
Especially during a drought.
00:09:32
atack2010
Yeah.
00:09:32
Jessica
Alexis and I have visited someone's house before who had a moss yard. It was pretty magical.
00:09:39
Alexis
Wait, whose house was this? I mean, I was like, was it Kay's?
00:09:43
Jessica
Yeah, yeah.
00:09:43
Alexis
Okay. All right. I just want to make sure I was like, wait, was I there?
00:09:46
atack2010
How was you, Alexis?
00:09:46
Alexis
Do I remember?
00:09:46
Jessica
Yes, you're the one who took me there.
00:09:49
Alexis
She lived on the river.
00:09:51
Jessica
Yeah, she's right on.
00:09:51
Alexis
So that was why.
00:09:52
Jessica
Yeah.
00:09:52
Alexis
Yeah, it was all shade right on the river.
00:09:53
Jessica
Lots of moisture.
00:09:56
Alexis
So plenty of moisture for your moss garden.
00:09:58
Brett
Well, how about this for some fall color or some you know winter fall changing color? For me, one of the interesting things that I've noticed more in the last few years ah The fault this fall transitional period of September October is really important for bonsai in a number of ways but the change in color of ah Conifers and evergreens that it's it has evergreen, but there's so many different greens and Whether that be fading to more of like a kind of a purplish dark green Or whether that be some of the cultivars will actually go to this like bright crazy yellow in
00:10:17
Alexis
Mm-hmm.
00:10:21
atack2010
ah Sure. Mm hmm.
00:10:26
Alexis
Mm-hmm.
00:10:31
Alexis
Chartreuse.
00:10:33
Jessica
Mm hmm.
00:10:35
Brett
Yeah, chartreuse, if you're into fishing. I always think of chartreuse as like a little lure. like ah like That's the first time I ever heard that color.
00:10:45
Brett
ah And I think that that is another aspect of, we talked about, I think a little bit on the transitioning to fall episode, but just noticing those shifts and changes in something that is allegedly static and it's not static at all. I've noticed some pine cones starting to either form and some of them opening on some of the trees around here. Yeah.
00:11:08
atack2010
yeah
00:11:08
Alexis
Little baby pine cones.
00:11:10
atack2010
I always think it's interesting how you know you get the fall leaf color prediction models and I'm always kind of a nerd for that sort of stuff because I do love the fall season and all the colors that we have here.
00:11:21
atack2010
in our transitional zone, six and seven. ah But it is must be, I mean, it is very difficult to predict. You know, we get the question a lot, is are we going to have fall good fall leaf color this year?
00:11:31
Alexis
Mm-hmm.
00:11:32
atack2010
And I have never seen, I've seen people that are good at it. They use scientific modeling, weather data. You try to look into the crystal ball and see when the first hard frost is going to be. But you put all those factors together, you know, and then add in, you know, average tree age and and all of these other things.
00:11:47
atack2010
It's really hard to predict. uh, what kind of overall fall leaf color you're going to have. And I'm always looking at the model, just curious. I'm like, should I go north now or should I go to the smokies now?
00:11:59
atack2010
Some of these hot leaf looking spots.
00:11:59
Alexis
Mmhmm.
00:12:01
atack2010
And it's just, it's really tough. Uh, and it's frustrating for me because I want to know the week to go. I want to know the best three day span. but But it's really difficult to predict that.
00:12:12
atack2010
I know here in Kentucky, we've had extended dry spells here in the last little bit.
00:12:12
Alexis
Mmhmm.
00:12:19
atack2010
And I know that does ah have an impact on certain tree species that are, there's some trees out there that's been dropping leaves for a while now.
00:12:27
Brett
Yeah.
00:12:27
Jessica
Yeah, we've really noticed it in our area where Alexis and I are that there's a lot of trees already dropping leaves or changing color early um just because it rained like once in the last month.
00:12:33
Alexis
Mmhmm.
00:12:33
atack2010
Yeah.
00:12:37
Alexis
Yeah.
00:12:39
Jessica
So it's been pretty dry and hot.
00:12:39
Alexis
Yeah.
00:12:39
atack2010
Yeah, especially younger trees, we're getting lots of calls, you know, from, it's not necessarily about leaf color, but lots of folks that have, you know, trees under, you know, five years old, you know, three to five years old, and they're saying, well, what's wrong with our tree?
00:12:51
atack2010
It's dying. Well, if it's not watered, it may just be that it's really dry and it's kind of naturally shutting down.
00:12:55
Alexis
Mmhmm.
00:12:58
atack2010
It may not necessarily be dying, dying, but a lot of these trees are kind of shutting down. They don't have extensive enough root systems to sustain them.
00:13:05
Jessica
I have a baby burroke that's doing that right now.
00:13:06
atack2010
Yeah, it's terrible.
00:13:09
Jessica
It literally has three leaves left and I've been watering it through the summer, but I'm just like, Oh no, baby burroke.
00:13:09
atack2010
Yeah.
00:13:15
Jessica
Hold on. And so I continue to water it with its tiny three leaves that it has left on it.
00:13:16
atack2010
Yeah.
00:13:19
atack2010
Is it one that's been planted or is it just like a young seedling?
00:13:23
Jessica
I planted it two years ago. So I will see.
00:13:25
atack2010
been planted Yeah, gotcha. From an acorn?
00:13:28
Jessica
Uh, I know I bought, bought a tree that would be magical to plant it from an acorn though.
00:13:30
atack2010
Gotcha. Oh, that would be neat, yeah.
00:13:33
Alexis
XD Mm-hmm.
00:13:34
atack2010
But I noticed that lots of leaves are on the ground. I always look when I'm out in the woods kind of walking and lots of crunchy out there right now, even though our leaves technically haven't, you know, started.
00:13:40
Alexis
and
00:13:44
Jessica
speaking, speaking of like magical trees, right?
00:13:45
atack2010
yeah
00:13:50
Jessica
um You know, we actually have like a publication, well, not publication, but like kind of a UK press release that kind of says like, Oh, here's some awesome places around Lexington or other places that you can find.
Celebrating Iconic Trees
00:14:01
Jessica
like really good tree color. um Is it Maxwell maybe? Or they give a different road where they have all the big ginkos that line the streets.
00:14:09
Alexis
Mm hmm.
00:14:10
Jessica
And in, as we all know, ginkos, something, they're truly magical when they all turn that bright yellow and they all believe start falling.
00:14:18
atack2010
Yeah, all at one time.
00:14:18
Jessica
And it's just like all at one time, right?
00:14:20
atack2010
It's the whole thing, yeah.
00:14:22
Alexis
It's just like a carpet overnight.
00:14:22
Jessica
Right?
00:14:24
Brett
I believe I believe the tree ironically, the or the street ironically, where all the ginkos are is called Catalpa.
00:14:24
Jessica
Mm-hmm.
00:14:31
Jessica
Oh yeah, Catawpa Road.
00:14:31
Alexis
Yeah.
00:14:32
Brett
Which is a different type of tree.
00:14:32
Alexis
Yeah.
00:14:33
Brett
ah For the for those at home.
00:14:33
Jessica
Yeah.
00:14:34
atack2010
All together.
00:14:36
Brett
ah Yeah, I was gonna say something about the ginkos because people go sicko for ginkgo in the fall people on Instagram walking through I'm sure the people on that street are like, we had not we didn't know this many people lived in Lexington until till this day.
00:14:47
Alexis
Mmhmm. Yeah, yeah, all photographers are there.
00:14:55
Brett
What about, what about favorite maple fall color?
00:15:05
Alexis
Oh, specifically.
00:15:05
atack2010
Just make them.
00:15:06
Jessica
This maple.
00:15:06
Brett
Yeah, you got silver maples, you got red maples, you got sugar maples, you got amur maples, you got maybe some Japanese maples mixed in, but that's kind of hard because there's so many weird cultivars with a variety of colors.
00:15:16
Jessica
h
00:15:17
atack2010
I'll re-up this one for you, Brett. i' and Because it has to do with color.
00:15:19
Brett
Oh yeah. Mm.
00:15:23
atack2010
ah But we were just talking about, you know, going how to predict and find like the best color. But I found that I've noticed for years, and especially with the maples, I will look for maples of a certain age. You know, when I know that a forest fires burned heavy through an area of the mountains or the woods, and you have trees coming back in succession, you know, that are six, eight years old, there is nothing more beautiful than maples that are six, eight years old, naturally, that have come up after forest fires, or or maybe there's just a a bunch of young maples in an area.
00:15:55
atack2010
There is nothing more vibrant than any type of maple of a young age. They are always the most beautiful color. um As far as there's just something about the way they turn, it just looks like they're on fire.
00:16:08
atack2010
They glow in the woods when you see these young maples that are, you know, six, eight, 10 years old.
00:16:09
Alexis
Mm-hmm.
00:16:10
Jessica
Mm hmm.
00:16:13
Alexis
Yeah, they're like iridescent almost.
00:16:15
atack2010
They do.
00:16:15
Jessica
Mm hmm.
00:16:16
atack2010
It's just, it's absolutely phenomenal. And of all of those, I guess I'm going to be vanilla here. I'm going to be show my pumpkin spice latte. I'm going to say sugar maple.
00:16:25
Brett
I feel like that's a slightly less vanilla choice. I feel like red maple is the most vanilla choice.
00:16:28
atack2010
Okay.
00:16:30
Alexis
Yeah.
00:16:31
atack2010
okay
00:16:31
Jessica
Because there are so many red maples planted, right?
00:16:31
atack2010
okay Okay. There's some different ways.
00:16:33
Brett
Yeah.
00:16:34
Alexis
yeah
00:16:34
Jessica
So I would go with sugar maple dough, too.
00:16:35
atack2010
Yeah.
00:16:37
Brett
but But the red maples are like spectacular.
00:16:37
Jessica
I think
00:16:39
Brett
They're so cool that it's like, I don't, nah, I'm bored with how amazing this is.
00:16:43
atack2010
ah Some of those are just so, so red that it's, they don't look real, they look fake.
00:16:44
Brett
Yeah.
00:16:47
Brett
Yeah.
00:16:48
atack2010
It's so uniformly red.
00:16:50
Brett
How would you describe the color the fall color of sugar maple?
00:16:55
atack2010
I don't know, it's just a softer, it's, ah there's gradients in there is what I like about it.
00:16:55
Jessica
oh
00:17:00
Brett
Mm.
00:17:01
atack2010
That's what I like about ah sugar maples. um You know, we've talked a lot about like the yellows, and probably my least favorite. I'm bearing off of here a little bit. I base everything on probably, um
00:17:12
Alexis
Mm hmm.
00:17:13
atack2010
like a water maple. you know You mentioned the different types of maples or the silver maples.
00:17:14
Alexis
Mm hmm.
00:17:17
atack2010
um they they're little They're my least favorite.
00:17:19
Jessica
Oh.
00:17:20
atack2010
They're like, I don't know, do they're kind of yellowish, dirty yellow.
00:17:21
Jessica
A doll like a doll.
00:17:22
Brett
Yeah.
00:17:24
atack2010
Dull, yeah. And then you progress all the way through to the oranges. You pick up the reds and then the different types of all the way up through the red maples. They can be, those red maples is not red, is that correct?
00:17:35
atack2010
That don't look as red as there are other other colors.
00:17:39
Alexis
Thank you.
00:17:39
Brett
Definitely. There's so many different cultivars.
00:17:40
atack2010
Yeah. But like the yellow is what I love.
00:17:41
Brett
of
00:17:43
atack2010
You guys already mentioned ginkos, but the maples that have that yellow color, I really like those. That's why, you know, I'm picking not the red maple for my favorite.
00:17:48
Jessica
ah
00:17:52
Jessica
Something that, oh, Alexis, you want to go?
00:17:54
Alexis
I was just going to say, I have two, some, the person who owned this house before me, uh, planted red maples around the house, but there's also a big, very old, um, sugar maple.
00:18:07
Alexis
And so it's like, you get the kind of yellow in between the two red and I have a red, like an old brick farmhouse with a red roof.
00:18:12
atack2010
Yeah.
00:18:14
Alexis
And it's, it is really special just because they're like kind of the only red trees in the area, uh, as you like kind of drive down the road.
00:18:21
Brett
how How dare you be so picturesque?
00:18:24
Alexis
It's pretty picturesque. There's like, because it'll be yellow and green everywhere.
00:18:26
Brett
I'm mad.
00:18:28
Alexis
And then there's just bright, fiery pops as you kind of pop over the hill. And so, you know, it is pretty special. um Just saying.
00:18:36
Brett
Yeah.
00:18:37
atack2010
The sugars are one of those that that they vary so much too.
00:18:39
Brett
Mm-hmm.
00:18:40
atack2010
I mean, I'm trying to think of different sugar maple trees, my favorites, and one of them's an orangish, and one's more yellow.
00:18:46
Jessica
That's like, I have two at my house and they're more yellowy orange, right?
00:18:47
Brett
Yeah.
00:18:47
atack2010
They're chameleon.
00:18:50
Alexis
Mm.
00:18:51
Jessica
They're more that orange color.
00:18:52
atack2010
When people describe those, they describe them every everywhere, from red to pure yellow, and they're all correct. That's one of the reasons I love them.
00:18:57
Jessica
h
00:18:58
Alexis
suspicious
00:18:59
Brett
You know, if you're a fan of something in that ballpark of kind of a creamsicle to golden rod, a small tree, small tree shrub that doesn't get a lot of love necessarily, the Washington Hawthorne.
00:18:59
Alexis
to whatever they feel.
00:18:59
atack2010
They're chameleon.
00:19:08
Alexis
oh
00:19:09
atack2010
Huh?
00:19:17
Alexis
ah
00:19:18
atack2010
Oh, wow.
00:19:18
Jessica
Mm hmm.
00:19:19
Brett
beck spectacular fall color. ah It looks kind of in my in my experience, the ones that I've seen they look sometimes they look like a small sugar maple in the fall if you get the ones that yeah.
00:19:22
atack2010
ah
00:19:25
atack2010
Oh, nice.
00:19:31
Alexis
Hmm.
00:19:32
atack2010
Of course, aspens.
00:19:33
Alexis
Yeah.
00:19:33
atack2010
I mean, if you're in different parts of the country, if you're where there's aspen groves, they can be interesting. um The beaches are are neat. um The ones that like hold on to their leaves for so long.
00:19:44
Alexis
A little spookies, a little forest spookies.
00:19:45
Jessica
Mm hmm.
00:19:46
atack2010
Yes. And they rattle and carry on. You get that nice, beautiful, we talked about like fall, you know, plants for fall interest in the winter. They have that white bark and then they hold onto those brown leaves and it's, uh, they're very nice in the fall too. I love those.
00:20:01
Jessica
something I've noticed since moving to our farm that I've always liked, but I didn't realize how vibrant they could be a sassafras.
00:20:10
Alexis
Mmm.
00:20:10
Brett
a
00:20:10
atack2010
Oh yeah.
00:20:10
Jessica
So like, so well, the ones that we have are like red, like they're so, so bright red that they catch your eye and you're like, what the heck is that over there?
00:20:11
atack2010
Yellow.
00:20:16
atack2010
You can make those different too, yeah.
00:20:16
Brett
ah
00:20:19
atack2010
Mm-hmm.
00:20:22
Jessica
Right? And I have like trekked across the field to be like, what is this plant?
00:20:26
atack2010
They'll have a gradient of color in those.
00:20:27
Jessica
Do I not know how to ID? And then it'd be a sassafras.
00:20:30
atack2010
Mm-hmm.
00:20:31
Jessica
And just so, so bright when that sun hits it and just really catches your eye.
00:20:31
Brett
Hmm.
00:20:37
Jessica
It's so pretty.
00:20:37
Brett
Have you ever done any like tea or anything with the sassafras?
00:20:41
atack2010
Mm-hmm.
00:20:41
Jessica
I have not.
00:20:43
atack2010
I've done the bark, went through this whole extractive process of using the bark for sass frass tea before. Pretty interesting, very tasty.
00:20:49
Brett
Was it worth it?
00:20:50
Alexis
When...
00:20:51
atack2010
ah It was because the tree had fallen naturally and, you know, we used to gather a lot of herbs, you know, just, you know, for money off the farm, we had lots of different things in the mountains, but sass frass is one of those that you could sell sass frass leaves for pharmaceutical purposes.
00:21:05
Brett
Yeah.
00:21:05
atack2010
And then not to waste a tree because, you know, we would do lots of stuff with, there wasn't anything wasted. But one of the things that grandmother would want was the bark off of that to make sassafras tea. So yeah, I think it was worth it.
00:21:15
atack2010
That's probably the first tea I ever had was sassafras tea. It was very good stuff. Yeah, but sassafras is one of my favorite trees. I love the smell of sassafras and the color in the fall.
00:21:26
atack2010
That's a good one. Yeah.
00:21:27
Alexis
That's like thinking back to like my some of you know your first experiences with plants. And um I remember my parents had like this little plot of land on Cumberland Lake, just like, I mean, it was probably like a quarter acre and it was, had nothing on it. And we would just like go tent camping there.
00:21:46
Alexis
And I remember like we'd go out and find sassafras and make sassafras tea over the campfire.
00:21:53
atack2010
Oh, nice.
00:21:54
Alexis
And I just thought that was like the coolest thing when I was, you know, seven.
00:21:57
atack2010
Yeah. Well, it is the coolest thing, absolutely.
00:21:59
Alexis
And yeah, yeah, I like looking back, like thinking how my mom kind of came up with that. And I don't know.
00:22:05
atack2010
That's awesome.
00:22:06
Alexis
It's it's fun that you mentioned that. But speaking of like tea fall color, can we talk about the sumac for a second? Because, uh, like.
00:22:13
atack2010
Mm, that is a good one, yeah.
00:22:15
Alexis
You see sumacs in the fall?
00:22:16
atack2010
And the berries along with that too, yeah.
00:22:18
Alexis
yeah Yeah, they're so, I think, underappreciated.
00:22:20
atack2010
So. It's almost like a cornucopia vibe for me, because you combine the berries with the colors. They look so cool when the when they really have big pods on there.
00:22:30
Alexis
Mm-hmm.
00:22:31
atack2010
They can be very showy. Even naturally, out in natural stands of those, they can just be they they can look so awesome.
00:22:33
Jessica
Mm
00:22:37
atack2010
And I hadn't thought about that one. That's a good one.
00:22:39
Alexis
Yeah, and when they all, they're all like clustered together, you know, and they're, they grow in such, um, you know, random, I mean, they're not technically random, but places where you don't usually see like trees, right?
00:22:39
atack2010
Yeah.
00:22:40
Jessica
-hmm.
00:22:41
atack2010
Yeah.
00:22:50
Alexis
Like they, they stick it up and it's kind of some unrulier places. And so you get this like really special pop of color.
00:22:55
atack2010
Yeah, kind of early successionary understory trees.
00:22:58
Alexis
Yeah. Yeah. And kind of these, uh, areas you wouldn't expect them to look nice. Uh, so.
00:23:03
atack2010
Yeah, persimmon is another one that I love in the fall. I love it because it's got that complex um orange and yellow coloration. It's not one color usually for our native persimmons, but you know, I like persimmon.
00:23:11
Alexis
Hmm.
00:23:14
atack2010
It's one of my favorites. It's a smaller tree mid-story and it's one that I really enjoy is persimmons.
00:23:20
Jessica
One, the um ah city of Harrodsburg, maybe we're going to overplant because we've all, I'll love it and keep using it, but it's surface berry, right? Because it's one of those natives.
00:23:30
atack2010
oh yeah that's a great
00:23:32
Jessica
It can be like shrub or you can have it like in a tree form. It has beautiful white flowers in the spring, berries that you can eat as well. You can beat the birds, but the fall color can vary from like this orangey, yellow, like really nice pop of fall color.
00:23:45
Alexis
Mhmm.
00:23:48
Jessica
And I assume it probably varies based on like whatever cultivar or whatever that you're getting. But they're nice.
00:23:56
Alexis
Mhmm.
00:23:56
Jessica
like You're looking more for like a shrub or a smaller tree to add to your yard.
00:23:56
atack2010
Oh yeah, that's a great. who
00:24:02
Jessica
That's a native as well. It's a very pretty fall color with that one.
00:24:06
Brett
Yeah, so if you've got a space where you don't want to put a tree, we've got, ah you just mentioned service barrier, Lexus shouted out Sumac and I shouted out ah Washington Hawthorne and the Cretaceous stuff is all three. like I think shrubs, is shrubs, native shrubs, especially like that, are are so underutilized, it feels like, or it's just kind of like, they don't get the love like the big trees do or that the small little plants do, so.
00:24:33
Jessica
Mm hmm.
00:24:33
Brett
Shout that out. Well, what about a color that's maybe a fall color that's um not so pleasant? ah all my My white pine is turning kind of yellowish color right now. Is it dying?
00:24:48
Alexis
Just losing those needles, baby.
00:24:48
atack2010
Maybe.
00:24:48
Jessica
Yep.
00:24:51
atack2010
There's season two.
00:24:52
Alexis
They get old too.
00:24:52
Brett
Yeah, not it's not yet. Give it a couple of years, it will be dead. But didn't before then, yeah.
00:24:55
Alexis
no
00:24:55
atack2010
ah Yeah.
00:24:56
Alexis
Yeah, if it's a white pine, it's dying, but you know, not today.
00:24:59
Brett
So this time of year, kind of late summer into fall starts losing those needles.
00:24:59
atack2010
Yeah.
00:25:01
atack2010
Needle cast. Yeah.
00:25:04
Brett
Cause that's, you know, some of them, some, some pine trees actually hold onto the needles for a really long time.
00:25:06
atack2010
Yeah.
00:25:08
Brett
Most of them around here, though, not as as long.
00:25:08
atack2010
yeah
00:25:08
Jessica
Mm hmm.
00:25:10
atack2010
I mean,
00:25:11
Brett
Apparently there's like some bristle cones out in the like high, whatever they'll keep, keep needles for like 20 years.
00:25:18
Jessica
Wow.
00:25:18
Alexis
Wow.
00:25:19
atack2010
They have optimum growing conditions. It's insane that they would hold on to their needles like that. I mean, it's just incredible.
00:25:23
Brett
Yeah.
00:25:24
atack2010
We just don't see that in Kentucky for our trees.
00:25:26
Brett
Yeah, we're moving it we're we're moving moving nutrients through.
00:25:27
atack2010
Yeah.
00:25:30
Brett
we're you know It's not not quite the slow process.
00:25:31
Alexis
ah Our trees go through a lot in Kentucky.
00:25:31
atack2010
Making way.
00:25:34
Alexis
Let's just.
00:25:35
atack2010
Something's always making our our our evergreens lose needles for good or bad reasons. So yeah.
00:25:41
Alexis
Yeah. Is there a, uh, I know we talk about, we talk a lot about like reds and yellows and oranges, but man, when you see one of those like deep purpley reds, like they're not as is they're not something, the only one, um huh?
00:25:50
atack2010
Oh, gosh, yeah.
00:25:53
Brett
Like oak tree?
00:25:54
atack2010
Some of the oaks are lucky.
00:25:55
Brett
Like a red oak?
00:25:57
Alexis
Yeah. Yeah. It was because if there's not that many. I mean, it used to be the ash and of course, black gum is the one I think of.
00:25:59
Jessica
Would you say like black gum with black gum fall on that? Yeah.
00:26:03
atack2010
Ash was one of my favorites.
00:26:03
Jessica
Yeah.
00:26:04
atack2010
In the past, I loved Ash. And the yeah, the the black gum and sweet gums. I mean, sweet gums are a lesser extent, yeah.
00:26:09
Alexis
I think ash is going to be like more of a, quote unquote, true purple, like more plummy.
00:26:14
Jessica
Mm-hmm.
00:26:14
Alexis
that And the the other ones, like the oaks and stuff are more um than like burgundy, but like still that purple-y color. I have a black gum. That was like it was the second tree I planted on the farm was a black gum.
00:26:27
Alexis
So excited about it.
00:26:27
atack2010
I don't know.
00:26:29
Alexis
It's going to be so pretty one day.
00:26:31
Brett
You ever have Kookaburrows that sit in there?
00:26:34
Alexis
No.
00:26:35
Brett
Oh, okay.
00:26:36
Alexis
I don't think so.
00:26:37
Jessica
Just checking, right?
00:26:37
Brett
I got you.
00:26:38
Alexis
No,
00:26:38
Brett
That was just a quick lab check.
00:26:39
atack2010
Let's check it. Has anybody mentioned sour wood? That's another little, it's a smaller tree.
00:26:43
Brett
Oh, rain.
00:26:44
atack2010
Sour wood.
00:26:44
Jessica
um
00:26:45
Brett
Good shout.
00:26:45
atack2010
I love sour wood. Somebody was talking about mid-sizers. It's one of the ultra classics for me is sour wood. I grew up with a lot of those.
00:26:53
Brett
From sweet gum to sour wood.
00:26:55
atack2010
Yeah, that's indeed, we're covering the entire gambit.
00:26:56
Brett
It's like first they're sour, then they're sweet.
00:26:56
Alexis
That's a good dark red too.
00:26:59
atack2010
Yes, yes, it's all good. I was trying to think what else, ah what other smaller things like vining or trellis, I mean like berries.
00:27:02
Alexis
Oxygen.
00:27:07
atack2010
I'm trying to think, we talked some about, you know, the plants for winter interest, you can get more ornamental brambles, but as far as like natively what occurs, I can't think of a lot of color in those.
00:27:18
atack2010
Can you guys?
00:27:19
Alexis
Uh, smokebush. So, I mean, it's, it has potential of color kind of all year, different shades of it, but, uh, right now my smokebush is looking pretty, pretty phenomenal.
00:27:21
atack2010
Oh yeah, yeah, that's true. Yeah, that's true. Yeah.
00:27:29
atack2010
Yeah.
00:27:29
Alexis
Um, and then, I mean, we talked about pawpaw on our pawpaw episode has really great, like that pretty gold and those big, big bat leaves, uh, get pretty color.
00:27:33
Jessica
Mm-hmm.
00:27:37
atack2010
Yeah, the gold yellow.
00:27:40
Jessica
Some of the dogwoods.
00:27:40
Alexis
Um, Oh yeah.
00:27:42
atack2010
Yeah.
00:27:43
Alexis
And the, um, shrub dogwoods too are really pretty.
00:27:44
Jessica
Mm-hmm.
00:27:46
atack2010
Mm hmm.
00:27:46
Alexis
Yeah. The seventh?
00:27:49
Brett
So just briefly, briefly a little shout out for our colorblind friends out there. I think that there's also elements of like the form of fall that can be really cool.
00:27:56
Alexis
Mm-hmm.
00:27:58
Brett
Like when, when some of the grasses start to die back and they're still, but they're still there. and You know, I said shout out to the color bomb people, but the color of it's actually pretty cool too. But the the form of like some of those, either the dead, like herbaceous stuff that dies back to the ground, but all that biomass is woody enough to to hang in place.
00:28:17
Brett
I mean, there's a reason why people do cut flower or dried cut flower bouquets is because there's something really strange and striking and something about that like life in a dead form.
00:28:29
Alexis
Spooky season!
00:28:29
Brett
I don't know. It's a really cool. Yeah, it's very it's very ah metal.
00:28:36
Alexis
Um, seven suns, speaking of like form, I was thinking of, I think of seven suns tree, heptacodium, heptacodium.
Kentucky's Autumn Highlights
00:28:45
Alexis
And, uh, what is it?
00:28:47
Alexis
Paperbark? Paperbark maple or paperbark? There's another one.
00:28:51
atack2010
virtue
00:28:51
Alexis
Paperbark elm.
00:28:52
Brett
Birch? Oh.
00:28:53
Alexis
The Paperbark elm, I think is the one I'm thinking of. They have some outside of some of the buildings on campus, outside the plant science building. And that,
00:29:01
Brett
Oh, yeah.
00:29:02
Alexis
Yeah, those are just leaves, no leaves, color, no color.
00:29:03
Brett
Those are elms, yeah.
00:29:06
Alexis
Those are pretty phenomenal in the landscape and can be a little bit a little bit smaller of a tree.
00:29:08
atack2010
Yeah, yeah of
00:29:13
Alexis
So that's exciting.
00:29:14
atack2010
Before we run out of time I want to know because I'm greedy and I'm always looking for the best spots to see fall color but I want to hear from you guys locally and we're most of us we're all kind of in central Kentucky here ah but if you drive a couple hours that's fine too but what's your ah favorite places to go like do you have a go-to spot for fall color to leave people
00:29:36
Jessica
Um, I say take advantage. If you go to football games this time of year, I've seen, I, we like to park on the other side of the Arboretum and walk through, um, to get to the stadium.
00:29:47
Jessica
And I have walked through sometimes right at peak fall color through the Arboretum. That has been fantastic where I have stopped and taken photos of trying to like not get all the people or the drunk football fans in the photo.
00:29:54
atack2010
Oh yeah.
00:30:00
Alexis
yeah
00:30:01
Jessica
and have the bright blue fall you know sky with the all the maples they have and all the different varieties of trees that are just popping right in the the sun.
00:30:04
atack2010
Oh yeah.
00:30:05
Alexis
you
00:30:08
atack2010
Yeah.
00:30:09
Alexis
Yeah.
00:30:11
Jessica
So that's like an easy one to get to when fall color is like really peak.
00:30:12
atack2010
Hmm.
00:30:12
Alexis
In Central Kentucky, yeah. There's a lot of little so like small arboretums. I know there's Western Kentucky University has like a nice little arboretum down there that they have a lot of different cultivars and species we're going to see those like different pops of color.
00:30:27
Alexis
ah Northern Kentucky has the zoo, but also the Boone County.
00:30:30
atack2010
Yep. Oh yeah.
00:30:31
Jessica
Well, yeah.
00:30:32
Alexis
Arboretum, they're all going to, when you have um places like that that are going to have lots of different species, you're going to see lots of those different shades of color. So from that perspective, you you just want to see a bunch of different color, ah those any type of little arboretum or art.
00:30:40
atack2010
Yeah.
00:30:44
Jessica
I imagine um Alexis and I have been there a couple of times, but Udall up in Louisville, I imagine they have a lot of different fall color going on.
00:30:52
Alexis
Yeah. yeah
00:30:55
Alexis
You know, and then of course, if you're looking for natural out in the ah out in the elements, Ray's favorite home away from home, Red River Gorge.
00:30:55
atack2010
Yeah.
00:31:07
atack2010
Oh, yeah. Yeah. They have lots of nice areas. My favorite trail there is Oxford Ridge. Just look it up.
00:31:14
Brett
Yeah.
00:31:14
atack2010
You're going to find it. It was listed as like one of the top 10 places to leaf look in the eastern US. It's a.
00:31:18
Brett
A-U-X-I-E-R. It's also a cool just a cool trail with some cool rock features, and yeah, good show ray i it's We haven't really gone gone many places like for that reason per se, but we my wife's from Eastern Pennsylvania, and so we end up kind of going up through
00:31:22
atack2010
Yeah. Yeah. Lots of beautiful overlooks. Yeah. Yeah. It's one of my favorite. Thanks, Alexis.
00:31:35
atack2010
Oh, wow.
00:31:38
Brett
Appalachia up through West Virginia, into Maryland, up into Pennsylvania. and there's you know If you time it right, it's pretty beautiful. You can see some of the like species transition um towards some of those older oak forests and um some of the stuff that's been cut and regrown. You can see too. and But I don't know that um one of our friends just moved up to Vermont, which is like one of the baller leaf places, I think. like That's like you know where the true leaf heads go.
00:32:06
atack2010
Yeah, get the early leaf color up there.
00:32:07
Brett
ah Yeah.
00:32:09
Alexis
Yeah, it's like right now. she
00:32:11
atack2010
I love one of my favorite things in the world in that area is when you see leaf color, but you also have these beautiful big swaths of evergreens and the transitions between an evergreen zone and deciduous.
00:32:23
Brett
yeah Yeah.
00:32:23
atack2010
There's nothing more awesome to me than that contradiction there. I love it. Love it.
00:32:28
Brett
And like the elevation difference too.
00:32:30
atack2010
Mm-hmm.
00:32:31
Brett
Like you could see like a really moist like beach and maple stand and then it kind of transitions to oaks and then transitions up to some
00:32:38
atack2010
Yeah. You get these awesome overviews. and so You just see so many strata there, yeah.
00:32:43
Brett
Yeah, that's, that's one of the things about that trail use at Oxford Ridge, you get like a good sense of that, like elevation change in a way that we don't really have a ton of that in like Kentucky, the way that they do out West, at least, where it's within a short, little manageable span, you can see this, this variability and difference.
00:32:48
atack2010
Mm-hmm.
00:32:53
Jessica
Mm
00:32:56
atack2010
Yeah.
00:33:02
atack2010
Mm-hmm.
00:33:04
Alexis
Awesome.
00:33:05
atack2010
Awesome.
00:33:06
Alexis
Well, it's fall season.
Reflecting on Fall Transitions
00:33:09
Alexis
It's leaf color. It's, you know, last time I asked what your fall like flavors and are and, you know, Halloween candy.
00:33:17
Alexis
So embrace the season of fall, right?
00:33:18
Jessica
-hmm
00:33:20
Alexis
That's what I'm saying. I'm i'm mostly trying to tell myself that I'm like, just embraced it.
00:33:24
Brett
Do you have trouble embracing it?
00:33:26
Alexis
Um, um, it's like, I'm almost scared to embrace it because I know all of the transition that comes with it. So I'm like, no, no, no, no, but it's not yet.
00:33:32
atack2010
oh
00:33:33
Jessica
Not yet, not yet.
00:33:34
atack2010
have
00:33:34
Alexis
I'm not ready yet. I'm not ready.
00:33:37
atack2010
Just ease into the lecture.
00:33:37
Alexis
Cuz fall is the new spring of growers.
00:33:39
Brett
Are we ever, are we ever ready, Alexis?
00:33:41
Alexis
We're never ready. That's why it's still 90 degrees outside when we're recording this.
00:33:43
atack2010
It was warm.
00:33:47
Alexis
But anyways, we hope you enjoyed just something a little fun. Maybe you got some ideas for that new tree or a new little spot you want to put a nice shrub with some good color hopefully you pulled out some ideas ah for that and or maybe just a place a cool trail to go see ah here over the next couple weeks and that's a cool trail to see anytime of year um but if you've got any questions about trees whether or not any of these trees might do well in your space or not you can feel free you to shoot us an email we've got that link in the show notes you can also follow us on Instagram
00:34:21
Alexis
at Hort Culture Podcast. You can drop us a line there, comment on a a photo and just you know tell us how much you love a tree or your maybe your favorite fall tree. Actually, drop that as a review.
00:34:32
Alexis
Tell me your favorite fall tree. I want to know. And while you're at it, give us a few stars. Five would be great. Just throwing it out there for you. ah We really appreciate it.
00:34:40
Brett
I would just do what she says it's easier that way.
00:34:42
Alexis
Just do what I say. It's easier that way. He's right. um But we really thank you all for being with us today. And we hope that as we grow this podcast, you'll grow with us and you'll join us next time. Have a great one.