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Season 2- Episode 7- World Cup Group Stage Final Week & Premiership Opening Weekend Preview
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It's your weekly dose of those American Rugby boneheads. First off, thanks again to all those that helped and tuned in to the YouTube live last Saturday! This week we talk about the closing of the World Cup group stage, the havoc cause by the typhoon and all big results from last week. Of course, we preview the Quarter-Finals with start or sit advice, and FINALLY the Premiership IS BACK, we preview the opening weekend, also with start or sit recommendations. Tune in and hit us up, to ask your fantasy questions.
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Transcript
Introduction and Weekend Reflections
00:00:08
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Hey, how's it going everybody? It is The Fancy European. My name's Jared Dyke. I'm Ben Glauser. We got ourselves quite the fun weekend. We did. Yeah. Trying new stuff and... Trying to be all in public and stuff. Yeah. What's wrong with us? We should be hiding our faces like we do normally. Yeah, we have faces for radio, not for public. Not for broadcast. Definitely not for YouTube broadcasting. But yeah.
00:00:30
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We had a good time with that.
Event Gratitude and Support Acknowledgements
00:00:32
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So we'll just go right to it. Yeah, thanks a lot for Tag Leader and Tony Propera of the New England Free Jacks and also US Eagles for hanging out with us last Saturday. If you joined us and got even a little bit entertained by it, thank you for tuning in for all of two seconds or whatever it was that you all did. Thanks to 19crines for
00:00:53
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giving us some free product. That mule put me on my ass. That mule definitely put me on my ass. And then patio is obviously for letting us crash their party over there. They were surprisingly cool about it. Yeah, they were just like, oh, whatever. I was like, okay, cool. Thanks. So yeah, thanks a lot of patios for putting up with us.
00:01:12
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you know, letting us invade your space a little bit. We weren't too super invasive. We used to talk to our booth. We were in the corner where we belonged, and we didn't bother anybody too much. No, I don't think so. So yeah, thanks a lot to everybody that helped make that happen. And our wonderful support staff that was with us. Support staff, indeed. To make sure that we had food and drink. We have some amazing women behind us over there, all four of us. So thank you very much, ladies, for helping us out with that one.
Podcast Promotion and Listener Engagement
00:01:39
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All right, so let's crack them.
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00:01:52
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And as always, make sure that you check us out on Google Play, Spotify, iTunes, download us, rate us, review us, send us emails, tweet at us, all that good stuff. Everybody wants the advice. Maybe they're just too afraid to ask because I feel like an idiot, like once upon a time I do. Wait, wait, wait, I still do. Oops.
00:02:12
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And let's remind the folks listening that we're doing this before any rosters have been announced for any of the matches this weekend. So if you have questions, say on Friday or maybe even early Saturday for the premiership.
00:02:29
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Please reach out to us on the Twitters. We'll be more than happy to respond once lineups are up. And if you have additional questions that maybe we didn't get to, or we didn't really answer here because we weren't really expecting to. Yeah. And a really good way to know what those lineups are is to make sure that you have your rugby mag upgrade.
00:02:49
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00:03:05
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And even and that's so much easier to to figure out, you know to predict who a squad might be Premiership you just never know so especially with these guys all the way right now exactly the yeah with the teams are away and You need to know who's playing who's not? The upgrade is a great way to do it. And then Also the recommendations for the players are extremely helpful. Very very helpful. Yeah, so get yourself a rugby mag upgrade. You will not regret it one bit
Impact of Typhoon in Japan and Rugby Community Response
00:03:36
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All right, so we'll skim through most of the games, but let's, I mean, we gotta address the elephant in the room from this past weekend, the typhoon that just ravaged Japan, especially the Tokyo area of Japan. And it was, you know, you get things put in perspective. People were upset about the cancellation of games. We can talk about that in a second, but it just throws things
00:04:04
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Yeah, i'm willing to give them a little bit of a pass in that They didn't I don't think I i'm giving them the benefit of the doubt that they didn't understand How bad it was going to be and the devastation that it would cause right? Um, because again we and and that's especially true I guess for for european countries where they don't see too many hurricanes or you know, obviously they don't see typhoons That's other side of the world. Right? Um, you know, I know that that a couple of the hurricanes recently have gone up and hit in ireland and in england
00:04:32
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Uh, I won't bet general to the uk in general, but i'm not sure that they've seen that kind of devastation and not to this level the power that it has and what it can do to um cities It can just it can rip through things really really badly
00:04:46
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And so I think people are understanding now. Oh, because last I saw 35 people had died. Yeah. And that's you cancel games for that. Yeah. Even if it's the World Cup, you cancel games for that. That should tell you everything you need to know about why they decide these games aren't going to be played. So it's it's OK. It's it's. Ruby, Ruby takes a backseat to this stuff and the the knock on from everything sucks. It does, you know, but it's it's not something that you can really debate.
00:05:14
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You know lives or lives Props to our Canadian neighbors for going out there. Their match was canceled. They said screw it We're gonna go help because hey, you got a bunch of big strong able-bodied boys. They have nothing to do. Let's go help Yeah, you know, they're gonna be stuck there for a little bit. Anyway, that's rugby. We're good people. We help out. That's our boys when we're needed all done boys
00:05:34
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And that's something we've seen before, too. And I think it was the Houston area when Maria tore through Houston, we saw the local rugby team had gone out to rescue people. We got some big, strong, evil-bodied boys. Might as well use them. Yeah. Of course, Canadians are going to be good neighbors like that. That's what they do. I love Canadians.
00:05:57
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I love Canada love fishing in Quebec. So yeah, that was great. That was really good stuff. And I applaud Canada and all the ruggers that pitched into that effort, because that's, that's not easy. And when there's all the strong able bodies needed or have to have to be out there to make this work.
00:06:17
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I saw a tweet from dth he was in the he was in the airport flying home and he said people were people were coming up to him people who didn't live in the area that was affected had come were coming up to him and thanking canada for the work they did so that's great it's obviously appreciated and um yeah and japan were great hosts they've been great hosts the whole time so we yeah we're really as much as people are upset about the canceled matches yeah they did their best and they're doing their best and it's it's tough to
00:06:44
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It's outside of their control. Yeah, it's tough to really really give them too much too much flack here Right, you know, we gotta we gotta consider that the you know, this is actual people. This is actually the real world Rugby rugby is great and we love rugby, but it takes a backseat when it comes to this stuff. So the matches that were played
00:07:00
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Yeah, let's uh, let's jump into them all the way back all the way back to friday the 11th No, even more than that. We got a tuesday, baby. Oh jeez. Yeah, we go to south africa. Canada. Obviously nothing big here. Uh, no surprises. Uh, the real talking point was the larson red card And that was just absolutely hammerheaded
00:07:19
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Yeah, unnecessary like what are you doing? You? You didn't need to get involved in that and you decided to anyway, and then oops, you get red carded. Good job. Sorry, Josh, I know you're a free jack and all but that was not that was not your best decision that you've made in a while I would I would wager
00:07:37
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And then Cobus Reinach gets on the field for a start finally and Hat-trick City baby. He was a magician with that ball too. He was just toying with Canada there and it's making them look silly and that's nothing, no disrespect to Canada.
00:07:52
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It didn't matter who was on the other side of that right? That's pretty good. Reinach was was gonna take it to him. Mm-hmm Absolutely. So the South Africans take down the Canadian 66 to 7 and that was their final pool game The South Africans obviously Canada's last one got got next but it is what it is. So that was a That was that was a wee bit of a beating to say the least And next
00:08:16
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we had our boys yeah that was that was an unfortunate effort that time around we we showed some gusto we also played a very very angry argentinian team that was very mad about the last result so they took it out on us pretty good couldn't they have just played better in their first two matches
00:08:36
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How about instead of taking it out on the u.s. How about you play better against the big fish? No, no argument out of me and and then you know, we can play nice here and you know intro squad america scrimmage But yeah that They gave it to us pretty good. Yeah, the us showing that we're still clearly into your two status, right? Um have some work to do
Rugby Match Reviews and Player Highlights
00:08:57
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definitely some work to do. Uh scully got over for a double which was great Yes, you know if this if there's somebody that deserves a double on this team. He's probably on the shortlist
00:09:06
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So I was happy to see him get over for two policy gay gets over a Fantastic person that let alone a frickin hard-nosed rugby player. So I like I like him I was glad he got over Malia Guy was killing us for large. He's he he was a man man on fire. My goodness
00:09:27
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Couldn't believe it. I thought um, I thought they got a little hard done by With one it was a mall that was trying to go into the tri zone and creepy came in from the side I thought was pretty blatantly but I don't know how much difference over to made in the grand scheme, right? I mean, I thought it was a bit of a unfortunate call but You know when you're you create your own luck sometimes. Yeah, and there's been a lot of it There's been a lot of coming in from the side. I feel like um And and it was actually something back to going back to the south african match that I wanted to point out that
00:09:58
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The referees I feel like treat the tier one and tier two nations differently at times and I thought that for the second half of Canada South Africa, I can't remember who the referee was Might have been Pierce. It was Pierce. It was Luke Pierce. Yeah because he was making South Africa be perfect and
00:10:18
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If they were in like a 45-degree angle at those rocks, if they were coming in from that, he's like, nope, you're in from the side. Like, I want to see you coming straight through the... And I think Elizabeth was like, what the hell? It's like, yeah, you haven't been refereed like that in maybe your entire life. Probably three years, at least. And so for him, he was obviously clearly confused by the call, but it's like,
00:10:41
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The professional teams seem to get those calls, and then if you're not one of those high-level teams, they're like, I didn't really like that. I won't let it go.
00:10:52
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But it's just I think we can if we get that consistency not just between tier one and tier two But if we can get that consistency just everyone say here's what in from the side actually means, right? Whether there be a mall or a ruck Let's clear that up and let everybody be ref to the same standard Yeah, we see that we see that with our clubs here where if you're you know, we we're a d2 team in America and Boston rugby is and We don't get the same quality of refereeing. We don't get the same
00:11:18
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Like not consistency, but the same type of calls that the d1 or the mlr teams would get and it's like how are we supposed to function at a higher level? Yeah, if we're not getting the same we know the referees that are that we see when they see that we see them roll up We go. Oh, no, right and there's other ones where we go. Oh, hey, I like this Yeah, he'll let us do stuff. This is gonna be fun. I like this guy or cool Yeah, or he'll refer evenly and be very clear about what you want swallow either swallow your whistle or be better one of the one of the yeah, please
00:11:47
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I will say, and obviously this will go to the next match too, I don't think Kankohama size has done himself anything bad this tournament. I thought he's played himself pretty well into the light. I don't think he's done anything special, but I also think he's shown that he has a motor, which he definitely does, and that he's just willing to put his nose into all the places that you have to be able to as a flanker.
00:12:09
Speaker
So, um, I hope I hope good things come for him. Uh, and he was, he was pretty even keeled. He didn't get too hot. He never got to, but he always kept working. So I, uh, I applaud him. I was watching him definitely in particular just to see how he did. And I thought, I thought he did pretty well. I thought he did himself quite the service just by, uh, putting in the work that he did this, this tournament. So, uh, good on Hanco. Yeah.
00:12:31
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Yeah, so our G's take down the u.s. 4717 and Somewhat well fought but still one-sided match. Yeah. I don't know how I don't know if both of those can exist at once but it did
00:12:43
Speaker
And then we had, uh, Scotland, Russia. That was, that was a whole lot of nothing right there. Yeah, that's a walk. I mean, yeah, the Russians were just so beat. Yeah. They're just so beat. They're kind of expecting that, but not, I was expecting that this kind of score is 61 nothing. I was expecting that earlier in the tournament for them, but obviously their last match, they're ready to go home. Yeah. I think they were ready to pack it in.
00:13:03
Speaker
And then, well, Wales got themselves quite the scare from the Fijians. So the Fijians do have something. They just gotta do it consistently. It's clear. They had a first half against Australia, and then they had this match. And then they just lit a huge egg against Uruguay. It was just, ugh. It was very painful. Some jackal picked Tui Soba as their sit of the week. Whoops. Yeah, Tui Soba and Rod Rodrod both had days. Yeah, they did. So, oops, Daisy, shows you how much I know.
00:13:33
Speaker
Uh, but I thought I mean the welsh obviously they put a decent team out there too. They didn't put nobody's out there They were you know bigger went down with a concussion. He missed the following match as well for good reason Uh, but they they didn't put nobody's out there and they obviously saw a reason to not do that So going to josh adams just continues to light the whole world cup up. He just
00:13:53
Speaker
Do you get two or three letting it though? Uh, oh i'm not sure. Um, he's letting everyone up I mean, this is this is something that he started back in the six nations and he's just rolling it on through he's uh, Carried it over to wister and obviously he has carried it on here now. He's going to I think cardiff This is where he signed for for the coming season. So cardiff got lucky with that one That's a that's a big pickup for them for sure
00:14:17
Speaker
Uh, but it was a, it was a great match. The Phrygians rocked up for the last one and I was, I was happy that they were not going down without a fight. Um, they certainly showed that they have some amazing players that definitely belong on this type of stage, on this type of level. They just need to provide a little consistency. And I think world rugby can do them a favor. That's a long conversation for another time. Right. But you know, we know that they could get a little help. And if they got that little bit of help, I think you'd be impressed with what happens.
00:14:45
Speaker
Um, but the vegians go down 29 to 17 wales to Put themselves back in control of group group. Uh, was it cd d I think but yeah, they uh, they took that over Yeah d d. Okay
00:15:00
Speaker
And then we went rolled over to with gaming five of our TRM and also the final set of fixtures where we had a little bit of a little bit of a hiccup. Nothing nothing really to be done about it. But you know, Australia, Georgia, Georgia kind of rocked up to a depowered Australian team for a little while. They they made him earn it. That's for sure. This Australian team didn't just like cut through them. They they really had to find ways through that wall because Georgia was really putting the hits on. They were.
00:15:29
Speaker
And that was uh, I mean it was a there's good performance by by Georgia Like you said they're not they weren't backing down From even and it wasn't quite it that that depowered aside that Australia threw at them. I Mean, there's good names on there, but at the same time there's other names I would expect to
00:15:49
Speaker
Beyond this team sheet too. So it was at least like a half Yeah, half power it was and and they had they had the other guys some other halves on the on the back on the bench so it was certainly many familiar names for Australia on the starters and in reserves and Georgia said we're might not be there, but we're knocking on the door. Yes, and that's really you know, Georgia I'd say come out of this World Cup with
00:16:16
Speaker
You know, they got they got a win and they you know, they're they we all we all know that they're knocking on the door, especially for a six nation status. Right. And they kind of show that they're they're not far away, but they still are.
00:16:32
Speaker
On the outside looking in yeah, they're on the outside looking then. Um, it's definitely uh, it's definitely a big A big step for them, but I think it's Not as big a one as no, I mean for them No, you're looking at georgia now and and it's one of these if we slip up just a little bit even, you know like australia They slip up a little bit and georgia's gonna
00:16:51
Speaker
Yeah, definitive base right an appeal right here for teams if they're not paying attention Definitive we got to give a hats off my mooka God says walks away from the game after this World Cup for at least international duty and what what a warrior he's been for the for this team and he's I certainly have a lot of admiration for him. He's been a
00:17:11
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a huge part of this team for a long time. Obviously, he's a very good club player on top of that. So he's he's done a lot of good for his country. And he's just one of those guys that plays the game right. And he's not somebody that pisses him owns by any means. And he just he puts his nose down that big who knows his and does the work. And so hats off to America for for a fantastic career. And for getting Georgia where he got them right, you know, not single handedly, but certainly he had a huge hand in it.
00:17:40
Speaker
And then unfortunately, we couldn't we couldn't say goodbye to Sergio. And that was it was a painful thing. But at the same time, you know, there was there was nothing to be done. But nobody will forget Parise for what he's done. And that's just that that is that's the facts. You know, I think his last match against the All Blacks would have been special. I don't think it would have gone the way he wanted to. No, I think it would have been special for him to play his final World Rugby match on as an international player.
00:18:09
Speaker
against the all blacks, but hats off to him as well. He's been a fantastic player. And again, talk about somebody who's done a lot for their country. Sergio Perez has had a huge impact on that Italy team. And he'll he's he's gonna live on forever as as a legend of that team. So good on Sergio.
00:18:26
Speaker
Unfortunately, just the weather didn't want to cooperate. Yeah, nothing to be done about it Uh, make a good story to tell the grandkids. Yeah, right. It doesn't feel good now, but it's something to he can he can rest on it in about a week or so and be like, okay It wasn't so bad. Right? Yeah, and then la crunch obviously got canceled as well and I don't think that we can really sit there and
00:18:47
Speaker
I don't think anybody outside of france really touted that the english probably would have taken this taking this team down to win the pool Anyway, so right and sorry france. So be it and then we have the match that we watched on youtube While we were on live it was um, I can't say that I paid attention to every second of this match But you know it went the way that we thought it would right maybe with like we said maybe with we thought that some moments might have rocked up a little bit more and
00:19:14
Speaker
maybe the score line is a little bit flattering to ireland but it is and and i what i what i also saw um and i i mentioned it during the during the broadcast was that ireland were getting away from their crash ball rugby which to me says they realized that there's a gap in
00:19:31
Speaker
the way they play their tactics versus other teams. I think they've learned a little bit from that Japan match as far as, oh, we can't just run right into the interior defense and assume that that's going to win us a match against some of the top level teams. But it worked out, I mean, it worked out on the scoreboard. There's obviously some fits and starts with it during the match.
00:19:56
Speaker
I'm not sure the the World Cup in the middle of the World Cup is the place to start changing your tactics But we'll see what happens with Ireland. Yeah one one note that we learned just a few hours ago is a Bandi aki band for three weeks, which would end his world cup pretty much in the world cup room
00:20:15
Speaker
They're appealing. We'll see what happens. So you may have gated down to it a couple weeks or something or something I mean the Samoans all went came to his defense and said he shouldn't be banned. Yeah, I mean that was a that's one of those bang bang plays where It's really it's really difficult for him to get to a good position. He could have that's why I Agree with the red card because it's one of those. Yeah, it doesn't matter what you meant to do this frickin
00:20:39
Speaker
Nailed a guy in the head. Yeah. And I just kind of wish that that world rugby had taken that into consideration that it really, you know, when you're going for a ball and then all of a sudden you're going for a tackle. Yeah. You know, with changing your target really makes things a bit difficult. It does.
00:20:54
Speaker
And I would hope that they would have taken that into account, but it doesn't look like they did. And we'll talk in a little bit about it. Sounds like three weeks is pretty much the standard at this point. Yeah, right. They've set the standard, so I understand them going with it. I'm not at all criticizing World Rugby for this decision. It's a completely fair decision. All I'm saying is I hope they
00:21:18
Speaker
They can read they think better about it. Yep, um, the the silalo lamb red card that was probably the right decision as well. Yeah, um, you know two guys trying to get low trying to get low and just didn't quite get low enough and you know Yeah, he still caught him in the beak, but it my yellow car was probably fair You know, it's still caught him upstairs and that's that sucks. But at least he tried Yeah, you know, he was he was trying to sink his level. It just got really
00:21:43
Speaker
Just the target fell really low right now and it happens So that was that was probably the right to sell result for that the Samoans are they Again, I have to say that was not that was not the was the performance I was expecting out of them for this this world cup. I know they pushed Japan pretty hard but you know other than that and obviously they they trounced Russia, which they should have so I
00:22:06
Speaker
That was that those were the only two games that I would have thought that they would have at least had a shot in and really they didn't Show me anything out of the ordinary. Unfortunately, I think again, they have some fantastic players They need a little bit of help in world rugby. I think they could be a lot more You know you I look down this lineup and I see guys that I know I know right so it's like all right This is not a bad team, but they just need to be able to get together a little bit more often It's basically what it comes down to so
00:22:33
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the Irish take care of the Samoans 47-5 and they got themselves qualified for the knockout round with this win and then they had to sit on their hands and wait and see which pool spot they got, whether they got winner or runner up. Then we found, obviously we found out later on that maybe Canada was canceled but then our boys rocked up.
00:22:56
Speaker
And it was a bit of a disappointing game for both of us. I, I believe would be the accurate way to say it. Yeah. You know, again, appointment is, is, is one way of saying, you know, it was, it was not the effort that I was thinking was going to come out of this team. I thought we played some.
00:23:12
Speaker
some haphazard rugby at points, you know, and just falling again, falling off tackles is a huge thing for tier two teams. If you're going to rock up against, you know, either, either the higher end of tier two or tier one, you have to make your tackles. You can't fall off. And the boys fell off a lot of tackles, unfortunately, and it caused havoc. We got lucky that they kept.
00:23:34
Speaker
Screwing up left and right. Yeah, we're probably pretty fortunate to be in a position We were in definitely, you know come, you know near the end of the game where it was close It was still close at the end. Um, but yeah, this is the final pia tout Um, the viana tribe sealed the deal, but that was pretty much it right there. Yeah and um, but um, first off mikey teo
00:23:56
Speaker
Got to got to put two down it came off the bench for injury or fairly early in the game. Yeah, Scully went down and and Teo just Rocked up and and and found space and did the things that we've been waiting for Teo to do So that's a step forward in my opinion
00:24:15
Speaker
Will hooley I thought was did it did a very good job at 15 He isn't he is this team is so much better when he's playing fullback, right? And you know, maybe it's not that hard of a knock on anybody else Maybe it is but really I think it's I'm what I'm trying to impress on people is that he is that much better than anybody who else we have Because he is that good
00:24:34
Speaker
I think it's time for us to recognize that that tao is a was a wing Yeah, he plays I agree uh 15s not a 15. Um, he just yeah I saw one in one of the earlier matches where he was returning a kick and got tackled by a prop in midfield and it's like Come on, man, dude
00:24:49
Speaker
Dude make those guys you got it. Those are the guys you got to make you got to run around them Especially with his size run around the the big guys and then power over the little guys Don't try to power over a prop in me. No, that's never so his decision making made his life easy, right? This isn't making isn't the best at times at 15, but then he Yeah, he did
00:25:10
Speaker
And then my one down is, and that sounds like it was, and I'm hitting miss on Teo, so I was very happy to see that. My one down was algebra. There was a scrum, there was a scrum where the, where, uh, uh, Vipulu picks and runs and.
00:25:28
Speaker
there's algebra he just hanging on there hanging on the scrum head down what I'm just like he's 20 meters behind you dude get off the scrum come on oh I was shouting at the TV I was like come on come on man you're a seven and you're letting that guy I've been there faster forgot yeah seriously got it
00:25:46
Speaker
So uh just that that's the thing it's it's these uh little That that's the that's to me the difference between the us and everyone else It's not this it's obviously not the the skill or the I mean the one Skill as far as your talent. They're they're they're they're fast. They're strong. They just don't know the game And they don't know, you know, they there's just a little bit where they're just not quite Picking up the the little things that other teams would do and not even think about
00:26:14
Speaker
um, where whereas you can see the the gears grinding in the american players heads and Once you move that's the that's the the the frustration point that we have to move past as a as a country Yeah, well, we have to be able to get these guys to just act on instinct and not necessarily have to think about the decision You know because if they're thinking about it, the other guy's already gone already. It's too late. See ya I thought um again, I thought dahas played pretty darn well. I thought he had some
00:26:40
Speaker
A few aimless kicks, but yeah a couple that were brilliant. So I'll give him you know as a young kid I'll give him credit and I'll let the other stuff slide. I thought that was really good stuff and You know really that was that was pretty much the end. We talked about Teo Fry had a rough go. Yeah, so that I had a decent day Tony Lamb one wasn't was in some sort of mood because he was pissing off nice
00:27:06
Speaker
Yeah Like first off dude, you're American. You're gonna yell at Nigel Owens. Yeah, don't do that. Don't do that You're making all of us look bad that pissed me off. It was like just he'll get it. He's better He he's better at what he does than you are what you do. So let him do what he does Probably giving him any shit about it. Yeah
00:27:23
Speaker
And to look at the Tongons, let's not look at this completely on one side. They obviously had some great plays. This game could have been way more out of hand if they had finished more. Well, you mentioned Savannah having a good game, except was it him that knocked it on? Yep. That pretty much turned the game on its head right there. Right. And because we were on the five meter line banging on the door.
00:27:44
Speaker
And they turned one into it. They turned it right into points. That's the credit to Tonga for picking that up and being on their own doorstep and then seeing the space and scoring the try. That's the kind of stuff that decides the game. It is. In 20 seconds. Those little things right there, man. That's the difference. Obviously, their loose head had a day. Yeah. He had a pretty good day. Toulouse-Viano had a great day, obviously.
00:28:11
Speaker
And then hats off to scally pia tau for being the a true talisman for this tongan team This was his last go around in the you know tongan shirt and he has not He has not disappointed that shirt by any means whatsoever over the years and he's a phenomenal player I look forward to seeing him play more and more Um, somebody said that he's unattached right now or no, not him. Uh, jack lambs unattached lambs unattached. Okay, that's what it was I say that sounds like
00:28:37
Speaker
crime. Well, either one, really, I think would be a crime, but right. Definitely. I'm guessing lamb gets signed in the next like week or two. Yeah. He won't be, he won't be teamless for that long. He won't be jobless by any means. So hats off to the Tongans. They played, they played a phenomenal game. They, we probably made the score look a little closer than they deserved 31 to 19 to the Tongans over our Eagles ends, both teams, world cops.
00:29:02
Speaker
And then we had, we had Wales and Uruguay. The Uruguayans actually played pretty well for a spell. I'll give them that. They were making this a tough one on the Welsh. They obviously, truly the quality just ends up being what the thing that comes to the end and they just don't quite have the right amount of quality you need. You had some hammerhead decisions in their own end, which caused them to get yellow cards and some cynical play. But in the end, they really put
00:29:32
Speaker
They put a pretty good showing on this team. I know 35-13 doesn't sound like it was a good game. For a while, it was. I think Davies ran one in over the end. I mean, they had two tries in the last seven minutes. Wales did. So, I mean... Up until 70 minutes. This was a pretty good game. Right. So, it was 21-13 up until then. Okay, so there you go. That's a pretty good score line for Uruguay. I mean, we know that Uruguayans have something in them. I'm impressed with how far they've come.
00:29:59
Speaker
So I give my hats off to the Uruguay and the Los Terros they did They did their country very proud in this well, obviously they picked up a huge win against Fiji but even some of the other games they really showed that they had some moxie to Shoot back at these other teams and say we are not gonna be the pushovers you know, I think the Australians got them pretty good but the other teams had a really hard time with them and
00:30:22
Speaker
Yeah, you know, well, the whales had a hard time, the Georgians had a hard time with them. So, you know, get on your way. I'm glad to see that we have another team in the Americas that's starting to come through and really start to show that they have a little bit of something to give to the rest of the universe here.
Japan's Landmark Victory and Scotland's Tactical Critique
00:30:38
Speaker
And the end of the week. Oh my god. So my wife hits me and she's like, you know, the Japan-Scotland game kicks off in 15 minutes. I was like, all right, let's go. I was like, you know.
00:30:53
Speaker
For those that don't know it was 6 45 in the morning here And I decide you know what I'm gonna do it because actually they've been for to our benefit They've been really good about not spoiling other games Yeah, I could watch this game and not worry about the other two and knowing the result so I was like, you know what? Let's do it. I'm gonna watch this and I think I think I'll be better for it and I was happy to watch this frickin game absolute classic just
00:31:19
Speaker
Oh my goodness and the emotion that came over both teams both teams really but definitely definitely the japanese obviously with the goings-on in the last 24 48 hours and then obviously this is a huge milestone for this japanese team and I uh I you know you can't be much happier than for these guys because it's just so it's so monumental for them in so many ways that you can't even just you can't even put it all into words
00:31:45
Speaker
And they kept their composure, they kept their composure better than Scotland did. Let's put it that way. I mean, we were both, we both at the same time texted each other. Wow, Jamie Ritchie's being a complete ass. He was a dickhead. Oh man, did not do himself any favors. No, I guess he's not going to be a lion any time soon. No, I wouldn't pick him in a way. Dude, like he was, he played his balls off, but man was he an asshole. Yeah. You know, you, you can,
00:32:10
Speaker
you can play your balls off and not be an asshole just fyi you know you don't you don't have to do that and i thought he was being a complete dickhead he got he got he gave somebody a bump with their with his knee and then he and then he expects they're gonna do nothing about it i would get up and be like i'm gonna kill you right now i appreciate that was tamora yeah but oh come on dude you're a seven don't be bumping a freaking fly half like do it to a prop or something if you want to show some nuts good doing um
00:32:36
Speaker
I will say, and I'm not going to harp on this too hard because he's taking boatloads of shit on right now for this performance at this World Cup, but I do, and it comes down to a lot of questions about this particular topic in so many ways.
00:32:52
Speaker
selection and we talked about it pre world cup and his selections of and omissions of guys but in this game itself to me I saw a lot of names that did well against Russia and this is this was their reward I'm like are you kidding me like these guys should have hosed Russia like
00:33:09
Speaker
I would not put any stock into those performances. I'm sorry. Like, sorry, Russia was at the end of their World Cup. They were battered, they were beaten, they were a team that probably didn't belong there to begin with. So you stack all three of those things on top of it. Of course, you're gonna hose the team. You shouldn't be impressed by any of your guys. If they didn't impress you up until that game, they probably weren't that impressive to begin with. So to reward them for that type of performance against that team, no offense against Russia. But what the fuck are you doing, Gregor? Like, good God.
00:33:39
Speaker
I thought that I thought there was some selections both in their starting lineup and on their bench I was like I like where the fuck was Shawn Maitland? Why was he not a part of this team? Tell me somebody explain this to me because I may not know shit about shit But could he not have made a difference with this fucking game? Like they had to stick Chris Harris on the wing. Mm-hmm. He's not a fucking way. No like
00:34:04
Speaker
I'm done. I lost my words. I'm done. Good job. And to me, it was Stuart McAnally's not starting. Yeah. Carry on. Yeah. Let's go to the good. Fair enough. Can we please talk about Kenki Fukuoka? Yeah. This dude was on fire. So this guy, I mean, if you want a talisman for a team,
00:34:27
Speaker
This is your guy. He just, when he came on against Ireland, he dominated. He won that game against Ireland. He made a huge difference in that game. And he won it late. This game, I feel like he won early with just everything he did. He sees Stuart Hogg creep up from the full back position and join the back line. He's like, oh, I'll just chip it behind and let my guy run onto it.
00:34:50
Speaker
Fuck just little things the one hand grab. Oh, oh like it's nothing. Yeah Like he's done big deal I mean the steel the steel and and take off that he had for his second try to catch it because that's a knock He ripped it he ripped it forward. Yep. That's a knock. We've seen that in countless other matches the wherewithal be like, nope No, I'm catching this and taking off
00:35:12
Speaker
And then yeah, he's stumbling as he's catching it and still can can kept his feet and took off, right? Yeah, that was that was a great, you know, talk about a performance when you need it. And another man that, you know, I haven't exactly spoken highly of in terms of fancy, but obviously we know he's a fantastic person. Mike Leach seemed to be everywhere. Oh, he was everywhere. So I
00:35:33
Speaker
It's not a guy that just puts it when the chips are down and he's gonna put put his put everything on it and come in with a performance He did he did and and if he can continue doing that this is gonna be uh, they might not be done after this coming weekend Yeah, we'll see man. It's uh, it's a opponent they're familiar with so right
00:35:50
Speaker
Because because a lot, you know, a lot of their at least in the forwards, their their fantasy values weren't that high for this for this match. But no, it wasn't really up. They used their they were smart. Japan used their backs to beat Scotland because their backs are, you know, they're.
00:36:06
Speaker
I don't know about the the pack play going up against Scotland whose pack isn't great isn't bad But why would you beat your head against that pack that you don't need to win when your backs are just outclassing them? Oh, dude, they ever yeah I and you know, it's sad to say but the man a man that needed to step up for Scotland and really was invisible was hog
00:36:26
Speaker
Yeah, I didn't notice him more than one or two phases in the whole match, right? Not not a great thing when you're supposed to be a world-class fullback. No, and and he's not he wasn't getting space same thing what we I just criticized um teo for doing There were times where hog took a kick and then just ran it straight back in the line like straight directly up the field and it's like dude
00:36:50
Speaker
That's not where the space around that's not what you do anyway So just odd to see him do that unless he just didn't trust his wings to to be there to support him I mean, maybe he didn't like the wing selection. Just saying Yeah, that's possible to say and I you know, I like Darcy Graham and I like Tommy Seymour, but I don't know why Peter Horne I like Blair King Warner, but I don't know why Peter Horne's the selection for your midfield and or additional backs Yeah
00:37:17
Speaker
Yeah, no bad bad decisions all around I wouldn't depict tastings either. I think you need two back three subs really keep finn rustle on the field Yeah, he was a magician. He was he played he was that was see that I hadn't seen that um That finn rustle. Mm-hmm have that game until this game and And it's it's a shame that that that was that's going to be his last game in the world cup this year because it was fucking hell of a lot fun to watch um
00:37:43
Speaker
Yeah, he was doing some fun stuff. But maybe it would have been helpful if, you know, some guys like McWiggin and Hutchinson were available in the centers. Maybe you would have seen that Finn Russell more often. Because nobody, and I like Sam Johnson, I like Chris Harris, I don't think they're bad players, but
00:38:01
Speaker
I think certainly hutch strikes a little bit more fear into the heart of a defense because he can Burn you right and also he's just willing he's not a big guy, but man He's willing to just take the punishment and crash it up, but he's also not gonna make you miss too sometimes So, you know, he's not he provides a different element that I think these other guys don't and that's that is the difference I think you're right. I think that would have been a huge difference So beats the shit out of me
00:38:26
Speaker
But the Japanese qualify, add their feather to the cap for the knockout stage. And it's it's a great thing for World Rugby. You know, the first Asian team to qualify for the knockout stage at the Rugby World Cup. There's nothing there's nothing sad about this, really. I know Scotland are sad, but that's
00:38:42
Speaker
Really? They're the only ones that are sad.
Japan's Historic World Cup Advancement
00:38:45
Speaker
Sorry. Sorry, not sorry. Yeah. I mean, they're the only ones, everybody else is extremely happy for this team. Again, what they've gone through and all that stuff. They are where they belong for sure. So they got quite a task in front of them, but that's okay.
00:39:03
Speaker
Okay. Two of the top scorers of the week for game week five. I mean, center was Pia Tao. See I like Pia Tao from the Tonga ball centers. Both centers from Tonga. Score really well. So be it. Yeah. Full back again, Vyanu from Tonga. Sorry. Apparently we were porous.
00:39:26
Speaker
Johnny Sexton takes the league at fly half right behind him, Finn Russell. And the flanker position, Gorgadze from Georgia gets 42 and Jamie Ricks actually comes in second. I mean, he was amazing, except for him being a dick. We talked about that. Yeah. Like there was, I think that was the one thing that was keeping him, that was keeping him from and the score line, but he would not have been man in the match just because he was a dick. Yeah, exactly. I thought this guy was an asshole, so he's not getting it. Yeah.
00:39:55
Speaker
Tallulatu from Australia takes the hookers, although Herman Kessler was right behind him. So good on him. CJ Standard for the true eight men out there takes that one, although Jack Lamb again right behind him in the same game. Fisi Hoi from Tonga with the loose head prop takes the score line there for the prop. 64 for long and Rhys Carr right behind him. Oh, wow.
00:40:18
Speaker
Go for a ride in my race car. 48. You know, Tony Lamborn made the dream team for FRD. Yeah, I saw that. There you go. Good on him. Hey, but if we got one in there, it looks all right, at least. Tony's Aqualua takes it for the scrum halves, although he had Murray and Ella Davies right behind him. And we had Johnny Gray take it home for the second rose, along with Kane LaPepe from Samoa. Johnny Gray, who is it?
00:40:43
Speaker
He was everywhere. That's not new. Nothing new. That's the same old Johnny Gray that we know. Kinky Fukuoka takes it home for the wings. Jordan Lammer right behind him. Not right behind him. He was pretty good distance and then another distance behind him was Corvetti. So that tells you what that brings home right there. So that's good stuff. Did we go? Did we do fall back too? Yeah, we did fall back. Okay.
Player Performance Analysis and Predictions
00:41:11
Speaker
About preview. So I went through TRM. I was looking at guys that are either in form or not in form and also guys that are highly selected and then compare that with points against average and all that shit. I didn't count the 19 points that TRM awarded all players that were had their matches canceled because they didn't actually score the bloody points. They just they were just awarded it. And really, if you went over to the games, they didn't even show up. Yeah. So it was just it awarded for your teams, but not necessarily to the player, if that makes sense.
00:41:39
Speaker
So for in on the England side Ben Young's start Sam Underhill and Tom Curry both start Vuna Paula start the Aussies are having a rough go against back rows And I'll I'm gonna say if I say sit it's because they do well it doesn't necessarily mean you can't play them but the the two wings Johnny May and Anthony Watson at least the two of them anticipating and
00:42:03
Speaker
sit and then jinx. They got a couple tall on it. They probably are one of the few teams that can rival England in a line out and they have a bunch of big jumpers so they might cause some trouble. I'm not saying jinx can't get it done. What I'm saying is there might be a better option is what it comes down to.
00:42:20
Speaker
Australia on the other side Again, we talked about this weird little thing England don't do well against fly half. So Tomua is the only one I would start don't start Lele Afano or Foley Tomu is the only one I would start it. Yeah, unfortunately, it might be Lele Afano, but it is what that is what it is Cora Betty and Haley Petty both go ahead and start those guys. They both have been on fire They've both scored plenty of points. I don't see a reason for them to find a way to stop
00:42:47
Speaker
Um, hooper I would start with caution. I have him as a sit, but he's also been again. He's also been on fire So I'd start with him a caution karevi nope karevi and o'conner No, not with two laying in that middle. No, o'conner hasn't been getting points in. No, he hasn't but he's highly selected He's been one of them like the biggest disappointments in my squad who I just never bothered to cut because it's like well, fuck it
00:43:08
Speaker
Now well now we're at to the point where we can which I already did delete our squads. Anyway, so yeah Tolo Latu and Genia sit uh, the second rows I would sit as well and then again David Pocock's been okay, but Cautiously start him if you have to but what are your thoughts on hooper?
00:43:23
Speaker
Uh, the same thing cautiously start him only if you have to, if you have another option that seems a little bit better, maybe you roll with that, but it's jotting that down. Yeah. I mean, again, he's been scoring super well. So if that's your guy, okay. Just mitigate your expectations a little bit. Okay. So yeah, those are your start sits.
00:43:45
Speaker
Onto so I'm lucky enough. I get some some very interesting Rematches coming up so the first one is New Zealand and Ireland rematch Dublin part do yeah So I don't think this is gonna be a high scoring affair
00:44:01
Speaker
So favor favor some forward heavy lineups Ireland like as I said earlier I've been working on a more expensive attack, but I'm guessing that once they get to New Zealand they're gonna run back to home and Because that's what worked that's how they beat them so it's certainly a good option for them
00:44:22
Speaker
So from that means from the New Zealand side And then looking at how Ireland have matched up through throughout the tournament. I'm looking at the back rows Ireland are 15th in points against her but for back grows So I'm looking at Sevilla and read okay, and it shocks me that I'm Suggesting read because I hate the lot of again a lot of the things he does don't show up on fantasy, right? But he's shown up. He's been a big fan He's had a couple of good games. Oh, there you go
00:44:49
Speaker
And then locks. Retallic needs to be on your team. And then whether it's Barrett or Whitelock, it could be either. They could go either way. I can't make a determination now. I go with one of those two, because even though Ireland are 15th in points against for back rowers, they're 17th in points against for locks. So they will give up points to locks. So find yourself a Kiwi lock.
00:45:16
Speaker
Um, for Ireland, you start, uh, uh, tied for long. Um, and then Ryan and hen I'll pick the right. Right. Um, Ryan and Henderson at the locks are going to have big days. Um, Omani and standard, Omani, I, I, I can't expect him to repeat the performance he did.
00:45:37
Speaker
He had against the Kiwis. Probably not. But he's still going to be a tackling machine. He's going to tackle a lot. That's true. And CJ Stander will have... He usually does damage either way. He finds a way to score. That's for sure.
00:45:49
Speaker
And then, uh, so New Zealand have been good against locks, but they haven't played a team like Ireland that really features their locks in South Africa. And that's a best scored well against them. So that's why I'm saying, uh, Ryan Henderson and then Connor Murray should be on your team. Yeah. There should be no question about that. That's a decent nine either way. Um, for sits, uh, the props for New Zealand, uh, one, they don't score enough to, to really warn it. Yeah. Um, and then even though Ireland are giving away loads of points to props, I still wouldn't bother with, with the New Zealand props because you're not going to keep them for that long.
00:46:19
Speaker
I'd sit Whoever is it full back whether it's Ben Smith or one of the Barrett's Ireland are third against a third and points against for full back So they're not giving up points to full back back three is probably not a better anyway So right and for sits for Ireland Rory best New Zealanders stifling hookers. He struggled in the line out. Yeah those are the points that should be easy money for for the hookers and an Ireland are having trouble with it and
00:46:42
Speaker
And then for Ireland, everyone outside the nine. They're in New Zealand are sixth overall against centers and wings and fourth against full backs. They're not going to give up points to those backs, especially not for for Ireland, whose whose backs aren't all that strong in the first place. And then with Bandiaki out, it's that really things real interesting. Right.
00:47:00
Speaker
So yeah, those those are my fair enough news Ed's in Ireland. Yes. Yes the Welsh in the French rematch of the first kick the first game of the Six Nations this year, which Unfortunately France kind of pissed away really? Shocker of the day, right? Yeah, see Sebastian Vamahina
00:47:27
Speaker
In the past to nowhere yeah Yeah, that's supposed to go to him, right? Oh shit anyway the So for the Welsh we're gonna go with There's more starts than sits for sure Alan when tip Rick Moriarty Yes, if he hasn't scored that well if you have to play him play him But you know, I would go with one of the other two first
00:47:51
Speaker
They do I'll say this though the French have done well against wings. They haven't played that many good wings though So Josh Adams go ahead. Oh, you have to that's not still sit north. I still sit north Adams has to be matchup. He's pretty much at that point right now Davies, yes, I would not play Hadley Park. So yeah, he's not scored as well The the one prop that seems to be okay is when Jones so go ahead if you need a if you need a prop there you go and
00:48:15
Speaker
Gareth Davies is a cautious start. They actually do well. Did they do OK against Scrumhouse? But again, he might be another guy that's completely match-up-proof, and they can probably find ways to score either way. All he's got to get is one of those balls and see you. Yeah. I mean, he's a guy. I have him on my bench for this. And that might be a good spot for him, because if he goes off, he'll still get half the points. But you're not wedded to him. Yeah, exactly. And again, George North, even Liam Williams, would probably go ahead and pine and Hadley Parks.
00:48:44
Speaker
For France, whoever the 9 is, go ahead. So Dupont-Sarin, Machno, either one, I would bank on them doing well. The two senators, Fikio and Vacatawa, go ahead. Pains me to say this, but both Lopez and Intimac, the Welsh are stifling fly-haves and I don't, and again, the French have not played a fly-half of this level.
00:49:08
Speaker
So I would go ahead and do go ahead and pine those guys. Vamahina and Gabriela, neither one of them I would play either. They're highly selected, but again, just not not worth it. The likes of Alan, one and Jake Ball are really causing problems for locks, so I would not give them a start. I'd find other options.
00:49:28
Speaker
What about Poirot? I want to pick myself a Jefferson Poirot as well. Let's have a look. Props. I don't think they were that bad. I don't think they were that good. I don't think they were that bad. The French are 15th. They're bottom six. So if that's your prop and you have a man crush or a crush on him, go for it.
00:49:57
Speaker
Yeah, I mean he's just he's been He's been pretty good huge point score this tournament. So i'll give him i'll give him a thumbs up. Okay uh again the second uh fun rematch
00:50:10
Speaker
revenge of the South Africans from Brighton Japan versus South Africa this is going to be you know we talked about the emotion we talked about the emotion in Japan versus Scotland this is going to be on a whole other level because now you have South Africa who are ready to match that because there's so much more this is more than just a quarterfinal for them this is a little bit of revenge too
00:50:31
Speaker
And then Japan obviously are defending their home territory. Of all these other matches, I'm looking forward to all of them obviously, but this is the one I cannot wait to see.
00:50:42
Speaker
That's the last one of the weekends, isn't it? Something like that. Yeah. Let's move away from my notes. So South Africa are going to try to, my take on this is that they're likely to try to bully Japan. So they're going to use their locks, flankers, and centers, and really try to punch holes in the defense, and then attack wide with, I'm guessing, Colby and Mapimpi would be there, that those have been their top line wings.
00:51:10
Speaker
Japan are going to do what they've been doing, which is varying their attack across the field and keep the defense guessing, uh, try to keep South Africa from really being able to set their feet. Um, for, for South Africa, uh, I'm starting at Sabbath. Well, I'm, I'm, I'm encouraging you to start it. So that's about Deogger, any of those guys, uh, Japan are 12th and points against locks. So that's great.
00:51:30
Speaker
They're they there there's a uh, there's definitely a place there. Um, and they're ninth against the back three So I you know, that's a bethin colbay or my two guys who i'd be looking at um for as far as uh, As even though I said that the flanker, you know, they'll use the flankers the flankers don't really fare well against japan. Um, the props do but south african props aren't really great options for points
00:51:55
Speaker
So I would avoid the flankers and basically the entire front row for South Africa, including Malcolm Marks, who's just not scoring well. No, he hasn't scored as well as I thought he would. For Japan, same as always. You need to have on your team, whether they're starters or reserves, Hori, Matsushima, Himino. These are guys that need to be on your roster. And they're going to be because they're really the engine that's been driving Japan. And I guess at this point, we've got to talk about Fukuoka.
00:52:23
Speaker
I'm not sure if he's going to be started because he seems to have earned his way into the starting role. Either him or Lanaki scored well, too. Right. Either or might be OK. But you know, Matsushima is going to be playing. So that's why I would I would definitely be sold on him. And then you tomorrow is a guy who I would just kind of.
00:52:41
Speaker
Keep on you know, don't don't bother putting him on your team. He's you know, he's so highly selected I'm surprised right because he's just not done. Well, I had to pick him a couple times But if he was if he was trustworthy as a kicker, he'd be an excellent option, but he misses too many kicks agreed And and that's and if you want a kicker, there's plenty of there's now at this point plenty of options out there. So Yeah, don't bother. Yeah with a with a full change that you get to make right now. You right you can find you can find one that's better
00:53:09
Speaker
Okay, and this weekend we get to start off the other stuff Back across the universe to the UK Alright, so we had two leagues fill up with FR for FRD. That's amazing. Those you guys are awesome. Thanks for doing that That makes me invented and very happy actually we had one draft this past weekend. I felt pretty good about it You did accept one
00:53:33
Speaker
Except for one fuck-up that I had. Small glitch. Well, as you said, that mule put us on our ass. Clearly. I was looking at my ass. Yeah, we did draft after a YouTube live. That's true. And there I'm seeing Dan Bigger creeping up the chart.
00:53:49
Speaker
The chart and i'm like, oh fuck. I should get damn bigger not realizing that. Oh, I already have george ford Whoops, so now I have two two fly halves more away. I mean look in like six weeks That's gonna be fucking amazing, but not right now
00:54:06
Speaker
Nope. Um, so don't draft too drunk. Yeah, don't do that. Yeah. Yeah. George was talking about, he's like, yeah, I had a couple of work period and pretty much shambles. All right. So I'm going to give the best advice I can for both formats. Um,
00:54:23
Speaker
When it comes to FRD, don't get cute. If you pick the guy high and the guy's highly rated, play him. So that's pretty much what comes down to this one. If you pick the guy to be a starter, you're probably starting him unless you pick somebody that's away right now. But other than that, don't be silly.
00:54:40
Speaker
I'll go down this as quickly and not asinine as I can. Piers O'Connor, both formats, yes. John Afoea, he's only TRM, yes. Harry Randall, both formats, yep. Harry Thacker, yes, obviously, duh, duh, duh. Charles Piatow, both formats, yes. Nathan Hughes, both formats, yes. Big names that I would avoid in both formats. Also, Callum Sheedy, both formats, start, and Bistro Front Row, start, and FRD.
00:55:06
Speaker
Big names that I would avoid are names like Dave Atwood and Jordan Crane in both formats. I would also avoid John Thomas who scored fairly well in his time. But yeah, nope, don't start him in TRM. And then Ed Holmes is one of those funny ones where I would say no in rugby mag, but he's probably started worthy in FRD because you still need
00:55:31
Speaker
There's eight starters out there right now for frd at least if not 10 And there's a couple of them that aren't in the league right now because they're playing they're playing on the woke up. So don't do that bath Big guy the big guns zach mercer both both formats are a big thumbs up Tom don't and Nathan cat both are yeses on that one and then Freddy burns rocking to gooney are both yeses on that one and then
00:56:00
Speaker
Uh, yeah, and then charlie ewels. I would sit in both formats. I would sit the bath front row And sit will stewart. I gotta see it from him first. Yeah, i'm not sure how much he's gonna play yet, right and uh, chris cook Is that is an I wouldn't start it. I assume it's gonna be will chudley, but I wouldn't start him in either format. Um, well chudley is a go though So there you go. There's bath and bristol for the opening of the premiere show
00:56:26
Speaker
On to Exeter versus Quins. This is going to be a tough matchup for both teams. Exeter have the edge being at home. And of course, both teams are missing some top players. But Exeter have a lot of great options, especially in their forwards because they're a forward heavy team. Right. So focus on Exeter's forwards. Kovacic and Armand going to be excellent options in
00:56:49
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TRM, I'm not sure about FRD. I'm guess I think ultimately one of them is gonna score the other one probably won't so you kind of flipping a coin there The front rows Hepburn Williams and Yandel Those are three guys that you should be you know if if if you're looking for the front row for Exeter You're doing well in FRD for the individual players for the rugby magazine Those guys will be scoring points Yandel if you've got him start him
00:57:15
Speaker
Uh, first off, you should have him because he's going to, as we talked about before in, in TRM, his value is going to increase because he's going to be the main hooker until Luke, how Dickie comes back. So he really doesn't have anybody pushing him. So they're going to be, he's going to be the starter. He's going to be playing, getting a lot of minutes, um, bump up his value. And then when you, when Luke, how Dickie comes back, then evaluate your options. He may have given you enough to, to assign somebody
00:57:44
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less of a rotation player. The Quinns are struggling here. They have a lot of guys, they're key players like Sinclair and Marlar who just aren't available for obvious reasons. Yeah, clearly. They're playing some stupid tournament. So they're going to be leading on some
00:58:05
Speaker
They're gonna have to trust some players and I think that's probably gonna go the best for them against Exeter. So if you really wanted some quins, you're looking at Dom Brant, he will lead on heavily for some tough yards. Clifford and Lade too, so really that basically their back row are gonna be the focus I think of their offensive attack.
00:58:27
Speaker
Well as they're just their backs yet. Danny care will probably be firing them all out Mike Brown and Nathan Earl Should be putting up points because they're gonna have to be the ones attacking in space. Oh, you know Earl's healthy, right? Okay
00:58:42
Speaker
Well, I assume I haven't seen anything that says he's not, but man, that was pretty gruesome injury last year. But I assume he's my my assumption is he's healthy again. We're doing this before we know the teams are out. Keep going. I haven't seen any news about that. And then for the twins, just avoid everyone else. And for Exeter, what about Marcus Smith?
00:59:03
Speaker
Yeah, he's yeah, I'm sorry Marcus Smith's out there, but I think if you if you have him He'll do okay. I think there are better options at fly half Okay, so I wouldn't assume that people would have him and if you if you have him
00:59:18
Speaker
He's not a bad option for the game, but I think you probably have better options available. So it's not so maybe for frd go ahead but for frd go ahead but not trm not trm Okay, you have trm then then you you definitely have better options available to you um And for exit or for sits just avoid their backs for now until they get things sorted out that yeah, they're they're back Their back line is a shit show. Um Especially without slightly back there. Yeah, or no, you're right. There's a lot of guys that just
00:59:46
Speaker
Some guys that definitely make things and hagi don't have yeah, and that'll be fun when he comes back obviously, right? Um, well at this point they're missing cord arrow, I guess I would say until hagi comes to replace him Yeah, basically, so they're missing a lot of the guys who are there they're quick strike guys So i'm looking to exit or just pound this pound this pound this
01:00:05
Speaker
All right, for the Saracens, our boys, ha ha, yes, yes, yes. Back to defend the crown and to piss everybody off at the same time because it seems that people are really pissy when it comes to the Saracens. So I'll try and state the obvious names that you need to know about and whether you're questioning yourself, starter, sit. Ben Spencer, Tompkins, Alex Good, Alex Lozowski, and Will Skilton are all yeses in both formats. Sarri's front row is a big yes.
01:00:33
Speaker
Um, there's a couple of names that you're probably going to scratch your head about roads, mail-ins and the sequel. I would start in TRM, but I would not start in FRD. You have better, you have better options in FRD with, with only two, with only needing to lose forwards. Um, again, Jackson Ray, both formats don't, uh, Matt Gallagher and Ben Earl, again, both formats are a big N O sorry guys. Um,
01:00:59
Speaker
And then we have for the Saints. There's actually a lot of names that are thumbs up for both formats here. Nairo Voro, Collins, Tamana Harrison, Hutch, Der, Alex Mitchell. Yes, for sure. Saints Front Row, I would definitely do. And Dave ribbons for the Saints as well as a starter for FRD and TRM. Definitely start both of them. There's a couple of guys in the,
01:01:25
Speaker
and format, so I would go TRM for Gibson, yes, but FRD, no. And then Grayson, I think, is gonna be the fly half in this game. I wouldn't start him in either format, honestly. I know the Saracens generally give the halfbacks fits, not halfbacks, but fly halfs fits, sorry.
01:01:43
Speaker
Dingwall and Tom Wood are both guys that I would definitely not want to want to start at this point. I got to see it from both of them. Tom Wood's a fantastic player, don't get me wrong, but this is fantasy and this is business. You don't mess around with that stuff. So I would say a big no to Mr. Tom Wood.
01:02:03
Speaker
Wooster versus Lester. Lester are going to be missing four of their top five returning point scores from last year for the World Cup. That's four Dan Cole, Johnny May, and Callum Afoni. Plus they're missing Ben Young's Genshin and Tulagi. So who knows what's going to replace them for now?
01:02:21
Speaker
West Worcester are missing Taufetti and Fido Well, they haven't even got yet, but yeah that not really big losses for them So so you wouldn't see too much you wouldn't know what the difference is at this point anyway So at this point with Lester at this point I'm saying don't start anybody if you're looking at starting a Lester player in in in TRM Make better decisions. Okay for now or at least hold off on that. Yeah, I
01:02:46
Speaker
Maybe some of the higher-end FRD players that are available. For FRD, I still don't know. I probably would not... Asking for a friend. I mean, you could do worse. If that's your option, that's your option. It's not bad. It's just if you have a better option, I would go with that. I have other options. It's okay.
01:03:11
Speaker
So for Wooster, though, it's like a pick them here. They do have some good scores. Lester were terrible against fly have last year. So weir is a great start. Yeah, they do. Hougard, Sam Lewis, Ryan Mills, Marko Mama, basically whoever you have for FRD or TRM.
01:03:28
Speaker
for Wooster, just fucking start them because they're probably going to put up a little bit of points. For the sits, though, I would look at maybe the back three players. That's who I would kind of pull back on. Lester were decent against back three players last year. And they might not even play a factor given that the one through 12 or one through 13, sorry, could just be carving up the Lester defense. So they might not even need
01:03:54
Speaker
to have their back three even standing, you know, doing anything other than standing there taking up space and looking pretty with their back hair. That's true. That's true. All right. Sail and Gloucester. So there's some there's some there's a lot of names in this in this match that will be rolled out because these teams have some good players that have not gone away. So they they lucked out a little bit.
01:04:16
Speaker
Um, the big names for the sale sharks that you'll probably ask yourself about, uh, Beaumont, Kerry, both formats. Yes. Ross Harrison and TRM. Yep. Well, Cliff, I would deal with him because obviously Dr. Quirk's gone. Uh, Sam James. Yes. Salomonah Hammersley, John Ross, Byron McGuigan, who's going to be an angry, angry man. Yes, he is. Start him. Um,
01:04:38
Speaker
Some big names that I would probably pine, I would pine the sale front row in FRD if you can help it. Mylon Yard, I gotta see it from him until he comes back to form. James Phillips, I would sit him and then there's some kind of funny ones like Will Cliff, I would start in TRM but I would not start him in FRD. Hopefully you have a better option than that. Couple guys that I still need to see, a guy I definitely need to see it from in both formats.
01:05:05
Speaker
or at least in TRM is JL Dupree. FRD, he's probably, you probably drafted him as a starter. So you're kind of stuck with him. So go ahead. Just mitigate your expectations. Bryn Evans, again, he was actually okay in TRM last year, but I don't know about this year. So FRD, he's probably a starter because I think he's a second row. So yeah, you got to roll him out there. He's higher. He's one of the higher end ones. But again, just don't, don't mess about with it when it comes to TRM. There's other options available, I promise. And they're probably cheaper.
01:05:36
Speaker
Gloucester, oh yes, there are so many games that you can probably count on for their both formats here. Banahan, Morgan, Atkinson, Ackerman, Woodward, Thorley, Cipriani, Ed Slater, Charlie Sharples, Billy 12 Trees, start them all both formats.
01:05:51
Speaker
Fraser Balmain, stardom and TRM, start the Gloucester front row. Tom Hudson, Lewis Ludlow, Freddie Clark are my only no-go's in both formats. Joe Simpson, stardom and TRM, said I'm an FRD, which is bad news for me because I think I have to stardom. Oopsie daisy. So this will be interesting. The Wasps versus the Alumni Irish. I'm excited to see what they do. Right. So it's really hard to tell. Actually, you know, so I wrote my notes, my original note was hard to tell with the Irish will bring.
01:06:20
Speaker
But at the same time, it's hard to tell what the wasps are going to bring at this point because they have injuries out the ass. Yeah, then they turn turn over to and turn over. So stick with the players who are likely to get points for both teams. For so for the wasps, you're looking at Cruz, Nizam Karr, Gaskell, since Roland's going to be out, Gaskell will be getting a heavy workload. It's going to be the whole Roland's workload. Robson and Sopuaga should put up some good points. Yeah, I'm sure Sopuaga will come good this year.
01:06:50
Speaker
Um, yeah, and I would you know, especially looking for him to as a kicking option Um, yep Which is what really one of the more accurate that's going to be in the league Yeah, and that's that's what's going to give him his value in something like um in frd in the in a draft for the draft format, right? Where he's probably not you're not going to have too many tens that are going to be big-time Try scorers. So a kicker like sopolaga is a guy you might want to look into Um, fakito and yang could make quite a good a good pairing Uh, but we don't know yet. Um agreed
01:07:18
Speaker
So that's one of those monitor that if you don't, if you have them, I would recommend playing them. If you don't have a better option, that's not, you don't have any worry about that. If, if they're just, especially in a, uh, the rugby magazine format, uh, have them on your watch list, uh, because those are guys who, who could be putting up points based on what's around them. Uh, for the Irish, um, Sean, really I'm looking at Sean O'Brien and Curtis Rona. As long as he's, as long as he's healthy. That's the one guy I was thinking of actually.
01:07:46
Speaker
Wasps give up points to locks and flankers, but i'm not sure how many irish would be better options than Than than others that are available. So yeah For the sits if you have anybody on the wasps for your team stardom Again, not only an irish new but they still have a little new to the ball New to return to the premiership, but they have a lot of guys who still aren't back yet from from the world cup, right? so
01:08:11
Speaker
the wasps have a really good even with their injuries uh Wasps have a good opportunity here to put up points no matter who they are who's on who they're on the field You you might be you know, it's worth the start. Mm-hmm for the irish. Um patty jackson shouldn't be on your team or their team Uh, no argument out of me. Um, so basically, uh sit anyone whose name definitely sit anyone whose name is not oBrien or rona because what about the hollow?
01:08:36
Speaker
I don't know. We have to see it first. Okay. It's one of those it's not I'm not saying that they're bad players I just don't know how they're gonna work together. Whereas I think as long as they're healthy Oh Brian's obviously, you know, oh the open set flanker is gonna gonna give you some tackle points right and they'll have plenty of opportunity against wasps and I think Rona is gonna do the same I
01:08:55
Speaker
Okay, fair point. All right, so this brings us to our starts and sits of the week for both formats and both competitions. So my start of the week for the Rugby World Cup, TRM, if he plays, Scott Barrett. He's been on fire and the Irish give up a lot of points to Locks, which is surprising. So go ahead, Scottie Barrett's been on fire and play him. And then for premiership, start of the week for both formats.
01:09:24
Speaker
hard to ignore ben spencer really hard to ignore ben spencer yeah so just go ahead and roll him out there for both formats and feel feel good about it too maybe even captain him in tiara um for my my start of the week um and it's gonna be a little bit odd i think but uh and
01:09:42
Speaker
Who we'll see if i'm assuming he's playing and i'm assuming he's starting because you you you don't not start him Um is mako vunipola, okay? Um, because I think he's gonna be a terror those next couple of weeks He's probably motivated and if not, then it's gonna be i'm just gonna roll back to the the old standard of mario toji Who's gonna get you a lot of points? Okay. There you go. Um
01:10:03
Speaker
for uh premiership uh again it's a little bit tougher um but i would go with rory hutchinson i think he's going to be motivated to pick he's got uh yeah there's a little bit of uh some of of players that are missing so he's going to be picking up a lot of other people's work as far as uh carries and meters um so i think i think hutch is going to have himself a little bit of a day yeah i'm and that that goes for both formats i could see him putting one or two over hard pressed to argue with that one
01:10:32
Speaker
My State of the Week for the Rugby World Cup will be Mr. Will Ginnia. Unfortunately, I anticipate that he's going to be the starter for Australia. If he's not, then okay, but I wouldn't start with Nick White either. But Will Ginnia is definitely going to be my State of the Week. He's had some really rough games against the higher end competition in this thing, and I would not pick him as your scrum half, and I would really, really seek other options. I might take Nagari over him, honestly. So there you go.
01:10:57
Speaker
Um, I sit for you're gonna you're gonna laugh at this one my sit of the week for the premiership is actually don armand I just yeah, I just don't I don't I don't so in frd. I don't know Um, if he doesn't have to get to get a garden of the points with other options out there, right? And then trm you have so you have such a litter of options out there
01:11:19
Speaker
And he's probably one of the more expensive ones on top of that. He's not super expensive, but again, you could probably find somebody cheaper and or for the same price and it wouldn't be so bad. So, uh, uh, Armin's definitely a wait and see. So said him. So for, um, as we go for the, the world cup, uh, my sitter of the week, and I, I mentioned it before and I, you know, I like to, uh, I, I, I was wrong last week when I picked Johnny Sexton.
01:11:44
Speaker
Yeah, we had a conversation about that on the live. We did. But this time I'm going with Rory Best. Yeah. Love the guy. I just think he's going to have a little bit of a, he's going to be riding the struggle bus this week. So somebody you should probably steer clear of. There's, again, you have plenty of other options. They'll do better for you. It's not that I think Rory Best is going to suck. It's just that I think he's not somebody you want on your team. There's at least two better options that you can put on your bench and start. So no joke.
01:12:14
Speaker
And then we go to the, um, premiership and this isn't going to be a tough one because again, all these guys are away, um, still. And, uh.
01:12:28
Speaker
I hadn't this. You're good. So I would go with pretty much anybody from Leicester, I really would not. I would I would stay away from them. Just for now. Anyway, anyway, in particular, that comes to mind, in terms of both, like either both formats or one particular format.
01:12:49
Speaker
Really, first off, for the rugby, I'm sorry, for F.R.D., their front row. Just do not touch their front row. They have too many guys who are out and not around. For F.R.D., I'm sorry, for T.R.M., let me... Those who don't know, T.R.M. is the rugby magazine. We're just calling it T.R.M. because we're lazy. You put it the better way, probably.
01:13:16
Speaker
So for Lester in TRM, really, I'm guessing Tom Young's is going to be their hooker. OK. Yeah, you're probably right. And again, the big thing with that is they have Callan Green at second row. Second row. But is that going to be enough? And he's new to the team, if I'm not mistaken. He was a transfer. So who knows what kind of
01:13:42
Speaker
uh connection he's gonna have um for the line outs I don't know that he's gonna be putting up the same kind of points that he did before fair enough all right all right let's do pick them and then we can gtfo here let all these nice people go and do what they're gonna do today um hopefully they're doing it while they're listening to us not doing what they need to do
Rugby World Cup Quarterfinal Predictions
01:14:06
Speaker
Phrasing I realize our voices are very sexy, but no knocking this while you listen into the pot This is this is not the reason that I would listen to this part. All right So let's start with the World Cup quarterfinals England Australia England yeah
01:14:25
Speaker
Yeah, Australia was never, you know, they're, they're in the top eight, but really only because of default almost just about there. Um, the Kiwis in the Irish. I think I know where you're leaning. You know, this is a tough one. I, I'm, I haven't even made a decision on this yet. So I'm kind of going off of the, uh,
01:14:46
Speaker
I think Ireland are going to do it again. As much as I'm going back, I know I said that Ireland are not going to make it out of the quarters, but I also didn't expect them to be playing New Zealand. And the irony of this is that New Zealand is the one team that we know Ireland can beat. And will they do it? I'm going to say they do. It would be very interesting for the rest of the tournament if that's what happened. So I'm going with what would make things interesting.
01:15:16
Speaker
Um, yeah, I'm gonna go with y'all all blacks are going to make the summit to my semi-finals. So I'll go to New Zealand and if I'm wrong, Oh, well, then we get ourselves a hell of a quarter. Hell of a semi-final for team. And we get a new world champion as well. Right. Uh, Japan and the Saffas.
01:15:38
Speaker
See, this is the same thing. That pool really fucked up my predictions because I did not expect Japan to be playing South Africa again. No, a lot of people didn't. Oh, no, nobody did. A lot of people didn't. But Japan versus South Africa, I want Japan to win. Unfortunately, I'm going to go with my head on this one like I did earlier, and I'm going to say South Africa.
01:16:03
Speaker
Yeah, they played earlier in the warmups. I'm going to give it to South Africa too. It pains me, but I think I have to give it to the box. All right, the Welsh and the French.
01:16:20
Speaker
Jeez, this is going to be a tough one. But I'm not saying, the Welsh do look in pretty good form. I think we can count on two Northern Hemisphere teams either way, being in the semi-finals at least. And this, obviously this is two Northern Hemisphere teams, but I think the Welsh will be the one that represents them.
01:16:44
Speaker
So here's the big question. We've talked about it constantly throughout a bunch of across competitions. Have the French had their one game yet?
01:16:54
Speaker
Probably not. Cause then they probably, they might've done it against England, but we don't know. Right. So at that point, it's like, I don't know. Cause they almost had a banana peel against both us and time. So my question is, did France has not had their one game yet and have whales looked that dominant that we can just automatically pick them over a team like France? I don't think they've been that dominant, but they had a semi convincing one against Australia who was a decent team, but I, I rank France well ahead of Australia. So I'm going to go with France here.
01:17:25
Speaker
I think France rock up, get a little bit of revenge for the six nations. And, uh, cause again, that was a, that was a match until the, I mean, uh, through the past. Yeah. Lamahina eat every, every ball you get, don't pass it. Just eat it. I just, I think, uh, this is to me, it's a coin flip. Um, but I, I so, but my prediction is that France put together their one game of the tournament and, and take it. Okay.
01:17:51
Speaker
All right, to the premiership. Same pictures last year that we opened with.
Club Match Predictions and Outcomes
01:17:56
Speaker
Bristol and Bath. Bath pulled off. Bristol have the same result. For me, I think Bath know what they're getting into this time around and didn't understand what they were getting into last time. Yeah. And I think they get the win. Oh, you think so? Yeah. I'm going the other way. Yeah, you go Bristol. I'm going Bristol. I think, again, they got their guys. They still have their players. A lot of their players, yeah.
01:18:20
Speaker
And uh, that they've had that year. I think that they've improved a lot last year as it went on. Um, no, no doubt. And I think, I think that they're going to be in a position to, to know what they need to do to compete at a high level. Yeah, fair enough. All right. Um, Exeter has Sandy Park against the Quinn's. I don't like the Quinn's. I know Exeter at home. I'm going to pick Exeter. Yeah, I'm the same. I mean, we, as we talked about Exeter have a,
01:18:47
Speaker
They're, they're winning this matchup across, you know, well, one through eight. And I think that'll be enough for them to win. I'll probably do it. Um, Allianz Park brings series in North Hampton, which is usually a pretty good match, but I'm going to back the boys in black and say it's, uh, it's there since taking home. I will too. I think that's the difference in this game is, uh, home versus away. Yeah, you're probably right.
01:19:13
Speaker
Wooster and Lester. Wooster at home. Here's the thing, and I wanted to talk about it before, but I didn't want to get into it before we got to this. Wooster have a limited number of points that they know they can nick because of World Cup and Six Nations and all that. And this is a team that they need to be able to pimp in order to even have a chance at surviving.
01:19:35
Speaker
So I'll give this to them because it's Home Opener and it's the opener for the premiership. Yeah, I know they didn't print it out, but let me give this shit. So I'll be back to worries. I will too. Lester is so depowered.
01:19:51
Speaker
And you know, we talked all last year about how Wooster's one bugaboo has been finishing. Like they were great at line breaks, but couldn't finish. And then the question is, can they translate those into tries instead of just long runs and then changes of possession? And I think that Lester, even if they are able to turn it over, won't be able to keep it. And I think that eventually Wooster will turn that into points.
01:20:18
Speaker
I Lester are just far too depowered without they're just they're top line players too many of their top line players or Everything that makes them Lester is not they're missing available. They're missing it right now. Yeah Gloucester sale sale at in Gloucester at the AJ Bell Gloucester are missing very few guys. I'm gonna go ahead pick the cherry and whites. I am NOT gonna pick against them in this match I figured as much
01:20:46
Speaker
I think there's they have and they have motivated guys like danny cipriani who are going to be showing off for the new england coach Yep, whoever it may be whoever it may be he wants to put on some some good tape and and it took them it took Gloucester's back line a little while to gel last year with cipriani and understand what he was doing with the ball but they figured it out at the end and to have edkinson and 12 trees and sharpels and thorley and woodward
01:21:10
Speaker
all still there and all available for this match. And they still have Ben Morgan who when they want to go, yeah, we'll pass it out. Oh, and then we have Morgan to really power over your wing out there. Yeah. Good stuff. And then.
01:21:27
Speaker
wasp and irish we talked about the irish are going to take a little bit to gel i think this is a little too ungelled for them and the wasps at home will will take this one yeah wasps are a bit of a mode of 18 they feel like last year was a disappointment so i think with their new signings and some of the
01:21:45
Speaker
Some of the anger from last year they're going to be able to hang on to it, right? The irish just like lester without their best players from the world cup Are are no or certainly no better than a prem? Cup or the i'm sorry the champion's cup team or whatever. They're not championship team. Yeah, they're not that one They're not a premiership team right now. No, not yet. Not until they get their guys back in jail. So I think it's easy wasps. Yep Okay
01:22:11
Speaker
So that is the first one for Pick'Em. That's a quarterfinal. It's going to be a lot of fun this weekend. A lot of rugby to watch this weekend. Yeah, loads of rugby to watch. I'm going to be freaking overdosed by the time Monday rolls around. Make sure you please review us. Send us an email. Send us a tweet if you have a question because obviously once the lineups come out, we can have more information.
01:22:34
Speaker
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01:22:58
Speaker
Uh, yeah, we filled the league.
Closing Remarks and Listener Engagement
01:23:01
Speaker
Do you guys want to try again? Yeah, sure. Sure enough. And like in two days we filled it. Yeah. Jared was texting me today. He's like, dude, get in the league. I'm like, I haven't even seen a link yet. Yeah. So, um, that's, that's pretty awesome. So I'm, I'm, I'm super happy about that.
01:23:16
Speaker
Review us rate us all that stuff It helps us because we want to know what you guys think and whether you guys think we're a bunch of helmets Or if you think that we might have something going here. I don't know We did get one email that seemed very impressed with our rankings which for FRD. I just like Yeah, I mean we did FRD for for super rugby So this is our first go-around with with that format
01:23:40
Speaker
As far as the points for that. Yeah, first time we've done FRD for premiership, but that's okay. Other than that, again, thank you to the guys that helped us out on Saturday and were willing to hang out with us and make it a fun day for Ben and I and get us a little bit shit-paced, lack of a better term.
01:24:04
Speaker
But that was awesome. We'll be back next week and it'll be semi final time by that time by the time it rolls around. So everybody enjoy the semifinals. Enjoy the opening weekend of the premiership and we will talk to you guys soon. Have a good one later.