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Kick Talk Vol. 8 with Dre The Shoegod
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This week we bring in the prophet, Dre The Shoegod to talk what we think are being brought back. Now some may think we are crazy for mentioning these shoes. However, these companies have proved to reach into the back of the stockroom to proves us right. Dre and I talk about sneakerheads and sneaker culture and how its changed on social media. We also talk about how I got roasted for my recent TikTok video. It's a fun one and let us know what you think of our choices by tagging us in post!
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Transcript
Introduction to Episode 122
00:00:11
Speaker
What's good, everyone? Welcome back to my first kicks. This is episode 122, and this week I'm bringing to you a new episode of Kick Talk. This is volume eight, and we're switching it up because I'm bringing on the one, the only, not only is he the Shoe God, he's also the prophet Dre, the Shoe God. Welcome back to the podcast. I appreciate it. My boy, the prophet knew he was going to be back on the show.
00:00:38
Speaker
It was all right, my guy.
TikTok Backlash Over Air Jordan 16s
00:00:41
Speaker
Listen, man, we first, first, first things first. We got to talk about me getting roasted on TikTok for these Air Jordan 16s. Did you see my video? Also, I didn't even see the 16 video. Oh, my God. You got to watch it. You got to watch it. So I I made a video jumping on Valley Boy's kicks because he's like he was like, yo,
00:01:02
Speaker
If the air, if the bread 16s dropped again, they would sell out immediately. And I was just like, I was like, uh, so instead of like me being like, you're wrong. And then that'll be the end of the video. I was like, I was cracking jokes. I was just basically being like, uh, why did you bring these tap dance shoes out of here? And like, I'm going to keep it a bug though. I seen valley video and he was like the 16s to sell out.
00:01:31
Speaker
And I'm gonna keep it real. You know, I know, bro. They not. I love this Jordan 16. They have never sold out, bro. I can give them every Jordan 16 that came out in the last couple of years. It's not that many, but nobody care about those. And I like the 16. I don't like many colorways, but
00:01:50
Speaker
If some breads, if you're telling me. He said, he said the breads, you're straight up breads. Listen, look at me dead in the camera. You telling me the playoff twills, fire red threes come out. What's all OG colorways that came out?
00:02:08
Speaker
did not sell out steel brick and currently you think the 16 no way it's no way it's probably like one percent i wouldn't even buy him i'm catching up the outlet nobody gonna buy no
00:02:24
Speaker
I mean, listen, that video that went crazy, and I don't understand how it went crazy of Tay on TikTok. He went into the, he's like, I don't want to do it to y'all. I don't want to do it to y'all. And I was like, all right. Okay. I'm like, cause people like to comment on my stuff every day. It's like, oh, y'all over here, y'all love the OGs and all the new shoes. I'm a realist, bro.
Young Sneakerheads' Views on Jordans
00:02:51
Speaker
When I do these predictions, I really know what's going brick. I say, look, and I got to agree, I got to get credit to flex. New generation of sneakerheads don't care about OGs. They have never seen, we barely seen Michael Jordan play. You feel me? Like, he's not an Arab, bro. Like, I love, like Mike, we know Mike the goat, bro. I grew up in the Kobe Arab, bro. But you tell, you tell me a 14, 15, 16 year old,
00:03:19
Speaker
You feel me? They just think it's just shoes. I was just arguing with a kid the other day. He was 18. I'll tell him and he was like, he was discrediting Kobe like crazy the other day. And I'm like, he said, yeah. Cause he'd be listening to TikToks and I'm like, he's a year. Oh, Kobe number nine on my list. 11. I say, what?
00:03:46
Speaker
I said, come on now. I said, give me your valid reason. I said, you know what? I said, how old are you again? He said 18. I said, bro, you was, you was 11 when Kobe retired. I said, bro,
00:04:06
Speaker
When Kobe was winning championships, bro, his last championship, you had to be like two or one, bro. Like, it's no point of arguing with you. I say, I'm like, who your favorite player? He's like LeBron. I said, bro.
00:04:18
Speaker
I'm like, you were 12, you were 11. When you got a high end, you're like, well, give it up. If they barely know Braun, I know damn well they're not finna give a fuck about Jordan and especially not Kobe and all that. I'm like, come on now, let's be real. And that was just 18, your new common sneaker here, it's 14, 15.
00:04:43
Speaker
Bro, they think Michael Jordan is a meme. Like, we don't care. Man. Yeah, it's just 30 year olds going. Oh yeah, OGs over there. Like, it's a generational thing. It's just, it's your era. Travis,
Types of Sneakerheads and Their Preferences
00:05:00
Speaker
Travis. Travis, Travis. How many years? And how many years? And thousands of collabs. They live in a collab era. What's nothing wrong with that, bro? Everybody got a starting point when they started collecting shoes again. For sure.
00:05:10
Speaker
for sure. And I think I mean, we were I was watching on tiktok like technical different. Oh, no. Oh, we go. We go. We go. We go. So the I was like, you know, scrolling through tiktok and that whole like who's gatekeeping and sneakers and stuff like that. And it's just like,
00:05:30
Speaker
A lot of people want to just be like, no, this is for this and this is for that. And you're like, well, when it comes to like, see, this is like, we can like, I got to have like a round table because I think there's different types of sneaker heads and people think that they're all the same sneaker heads, right? Like the same levels of like what your appreciation needs to be the same, like for everything.
00:05:52
Speaker
And I think that like they confuse it with like, okay, oh, I'm only in the Jordans. That means I am a sneakerhead or like, oh, I'm only in the Air Maxes and I appreciate Air Max day. Oh, I'm a sneakerhead. But it's just like, it's like once you start getting a taste of a little bit of each, then you can be like, all right, man, you know, like I understand it. I appreciate everybody tastes. We all suppose had different opinions. Yeah. On my page, have y'all ever seen me talk about SBs?
00:06:19
Speaker
No, never. Well, yeah, at one time you talk about the gifted pair you got. You talk about the gifted pair. Cause you know what? I can care less about them to this day. I appreciate job stable. Give me a pair of dunks, exclusive dunks to this day. I care about that. Don't care about SB side.
00:06:38
Speaker
I respect the old SB community because they was doing it before the hype. I mean, that's where I come from, right? So I understand. Yeah, but it's like that understanding because it was just like this. Everybody has their start. Like we just said in the beginning, I was just like, this is what grabs us in the beginning. Like, you know, I think Jordans are a gateway drug into this.
00:06:58
Speaker
right? But if you just stop at Jordans, and you don't be like, all right, let me look at other models, like, when you start just stopping at Jordans, then I feel like you just you kind of just like you have to be like, all right, opinions of people's other opinions are different. It's like, like I say, I don't I don't I don't
00:07:16
Speaker
I'm not going to say don't respect them. I don't listen to nobody that started wearing dunks pandemic bro. You're okay. I know you wasn't caring about these shoes when it was 30, $40. Now you care about them cause everybody wearing them. Now them type of people. Okay. When I say this, them the type of people that I don't really, I can't connect with. Not saying they can't be sneaky. It's just like,
00:07:41
Speaker
Bro, you only wear what's hot, you know what I mean? Like, you don't have a, you don't have a, you don't think for yourself. Like, people be, when I wear some damn rookies, they be like, why you got them shoes on? I say, bro, who the hell is you this? Shoe cops? Like, you know what I mean? Like, oh, I go get you some dunks or something. I tell you, I click on their profile every time. Every time. It's the three shoes. It's always a pair of designer shoes, dunks, Jordan ones, and a pair of Yeezys.
00:08:09
Speaker
People like that, if I click on your profile and don't see it, your opinions don't matter to me. I ain't gonna lie to you. Like, who are you for me to tell me that I can't wear this shoe or you don't like this shoe or this shoe ain't hot? Go to hell. But this is what I'm trying to say, right? It's like, listen.
00:08:28
Speaker
There isn't like a big thing to call you like to understand like if you are a sneaker head or not. Like I think people like to put like barriers for you to be to do that. For me, it's like you understand like you can be a sneaker head, but then there's also other subjects where you can find yourself and be like, I owe you here. I feel like this, though, like I get what you say, too, like if you just stuck on Jordans. Do we really?
00:08:55
Speaker
We got it, we got it because we can't, we can't be like, all right, now you're not a sneakerhead. For me, it's like, when you, like you are considered a sneakerhead, but then once you start going into trying to be like, oh, you're wrong because your taste is like not good. Like, you know, that's what's happening to me. Like on that, on that post, right? On that 16 post, it's like, oh, you were like, bro, I'm telling you. And I'm literally, I literally, in the, in the video, I say a story. It's not, there's no,
00:09:21
Speaker
There is no like, oh, like, these are just shoes I saw on the internet. No, there's a whole story that I put into the post. And it is that the first time I ever seen that when they first dropped, right, I went to school, and the kid had them on. And we cut his ass all day, all day.
00:09:41
Speaker
Like, we was on him. I was like, yo, son, you tap dance your way into this classroom, man. And he was trying to like, because he had the navy blue ones, because when they dropped, they had the four colorways that dropped. So like, yeah, so he had the navy blue ones on. And so, bro,
00:09:56
Speaker
He was getting so upset he put he put up the the shroud so that it was like flapping So then we just started being like bro. So you you just you just flew into this classroom We was getting on him That just stuck with me because it's not that I it's not that I didn't like the shoe like I'll be like yo This is straight ugly shoe. I'm
00:10:18
Speaker
And personally, me, I'm not a big fan of pant leather. And that's just me. I don't like pant leather. I have one pant leather shoe. When the Space Jam SBs dropped, I was like, I don't want these. When they had a red version of pant leather of the pant leather highs, I was like, I don't want those. So like, I'm just not a big fan of pant leather. But that's just me preference, like, on top of that shoe.
00:10:39
Speaker
I'm not like crazy over it, but I just feel like people crazy over it. I just, no, I agree. Cause you know, every holiday the people do all Jordan 11s. I'm like, so I feel like I, I feel like them red 11s needed Canada flop the humble people because I'm like, gee, they cool with y'all overly salsa. No, man. Like, uh, Pat and I are just the Jordan 11.
00:11:07
Speaker
That's really bad. I'll say some prouders. That's it, bro. Anything I see patted up on, I'm like, eh.
Respect for Older Jordans and Performance Shifts
00:11:15
Speaker
I don't really like it. Oh, man. I'm trying to and or even like like C square toe boxes. I do. I've never liked and those 16s have a squarish toe box. No, I could I could see your frustration with the Jordan 16. I'm just saying I'll just say it. And so so when the comments are just coming at me like, man, you weren't even you were like eight when the shoe came. I was like eight. I wish I was eight.
00:11:41
Speaker
I mean, I like, I'm not gonna lie, anything passed to Jordan 14 is going to cause controversy. If you look at, I can find it on my page, where I got a video trying to convince that.
00:11:53
Speaker
the fake sneaker heads and people that just stop at 14, that is good Jordans pass the Jordan 14. And yeah, they wasn't, I had a 50-50 crowd, you know what I mean? Like, I wasn't expecting that though. Like, I wasn't expecting everybody like, oh my God, he made a video and found some good colorways. I like my knowledge. It was like, eh, they growing on me. Nah, this ain't it. Oh, I start, I do, they do got some good colorway. I feel like, and another thing, they haven't really been,
00:12:21
Speaker
They don't drop that many, so people wouldn't even care about them. You know what I mean? I mean, like, and because I talked to Mr. Miller about this, too, like that people don't realize that at a certain point, the shoes just became performance shoes.
00:12:36
Speaker
So he was just going straight for performance, like on the court. And then when that happened, anything re-retroed, got reworked. They don't, they're not using the same material. Like this stuff, you can't ball in most of this stuff from one to 14. That's being re-retroed out here. No, it's, it's, it's, it's. Oh yeah. People got to think about it. It's old technology. You got to remember this is nineties and eighties and early 2000s, like compared to basketball shoes and that.
00:13:04
Speaker
you can't put on a pair of Jordans. You can, but expect the consequences that come with it. Like basketball, like Jordans are literally for fashion these days. Like unless you ballin' in some 38's or something like that. Like other than that, I wasn't there puttin' no Jordans sixes on. I'm gon' be here like, tell your Achilles.
00:13:28
Speaker
It was just a wild week. And I, and like, I was just like, man, I can't believe I'm getting killed like this. But it's funny because like, I'm getting like for every 10 comments of people being like, yo, nah, you missed out Jordan's sixties of fire. And then there's one guy being like, yo, some guys said these are the, these are the breakaway pants without breakaway.
00:13:57
Speaker
My thing about the 60, like I said, anything past 15 is always going to be questionable. I love the Jordan 15. Do I like every colorway? Hell no. Obsidians, the East Bay Pack, and I like one or two others. Other than that, it's like 20 other colorways I can care less about. In the Jordan 16, I'm going to keep it real.
00:14:18
Speaker
the gingers and the breasts. That's about it. Other than that, I can carry the cherry woods, bro. Oh, cherry woods, too. Yeah. Cherry woods. And I kind of like them soul flies that came out like 2016. It was cool. I mean, because like after that, I did, I was like looking up different pairs because like after I made that video, no, Jordan making the video because I was like, oh, I posted like, OK.
00:14:41
Speaker
the cherry woods are like the only pair that I would buy. So like, I didn't even say like they all whack. I just said, this is the only pair I would buy. I agree. I think it's only like three. That's worth looking at. Like Jordan six, especially, especially like the ones without the Stroud and the moles. Oh, my, they're my hideous bro. Oh, my goodness. Like, you couldn't pay me to wear those. But like I said, really, I'm gonna be real if I'm only picking one and I keep talking about it.
00:15:12
Speaker
It's going to be in a profit. I'm going to save it. As only one 16 really worth mentioning. So before we jump into the format of this specific episode, I do want to talk about how did you come up with being the prophet and
00:15:32
Speaker
Can you, for the listeners who aren't familiar with the picks that you have made these past couple months, can you go over your list and what came out to be true? The profit came up.
00:15:50
Speaker
I always, I don't know, my brain is kind of like a dictionary or a encyclopedia. I say, I just know what came out. I've witnessed, I've been there, I've been collected forever. And every time I go through my collection, cause I got like three shoe rooms, literally, I'm like, man.
00:16:08
Speaker
This shoe hasn't come out in years. Like I got shoes falling apart. And I'm like, man, we need a retro. And I'm like, you know what? Me being silly myself, I just like, it just kind of came to my thought. Like, you know what? Let's do some predictions. I actually, like last year I made like prediction videos. And I'm like, you know what? I'm gonna do a twist with it. I got to make it funny somehow. Like just me and the prophet been
00:16:35
Speaker
been killing it lately. And a lot of shoes, man. I think.
Sneaker Predictions: Retro Recommendations
00:16:44
Speaker
I'm so into shoes like crazy, especially like the basketball, I'm more of a basketball person. And the ones I predicted, it needed to retro, like the KD4. The KD is beloved in the hood, like legendary, especially the four. The four is what really kicked the KD off of people. And I was like,
00:17:06
Speaker
We need to come out with these bro. Like now, like I seen, I wanted to buy some, I wanted to buy a pen that kept falling apart. Every time I look at the pictures, I'm like, nah. And then I'm just looking at a couple old Jordans and just in my collection, military blue fours.
00:17:22
Speaker
Come on, that's a fan favorite. I just look back at stuff like, why are we getting, why are certain shoes coming out before the military force? It's time for a retro, it's been time for a retro. And just another one, it was so many, it's up and coming too. I can give you one.
00:17:43
Speaker
the Wolf Grey Fives. I just saw somebody pull them out and I was like, yeah, those are clean. I forgot how clean those were. Man, look, one of my little woos bought me them back in the day. They still crispy in the back.
00:18:02
Speaker
And man, I took them, I think today, and people gotta remember them sack. I remember them, like we going into DTLR and they was like $80. I'm like, yeah, let me get those. But I think they'll get better, better, the reputation, they get a better,
00:18:26
Speaker
A second calling, I will say, because they definitely didn't get appreciated in 2011.
00:18:33
Speaker
What else? Oh, the galaxy. I'm a big phone posit guy, man. Like- I can't believe you called that, man. I was like- I called that. You called that, man. It's just because I'm like, it hurts my heart to really see kids like really, I'm going on TikTok and really say, man, the phone posits, ass, the phone posit. Ain't nobody wear those no more. Like, oh, that hurts my heart. And then like, I was down this hill. I think I just seen Penny said it too.
00:19:04
Speaker
behind Michael Jordan is literally Penny Hardaway as far as his shoe line. Like any, I agree with Penny. I, he can, he can compete with anybody. Like he said, and he, and his facts and the people downplaying, I'm seeing new sneakers or whatever you want to call them downplay the phone positive. Like this is literally, if I got to like put a top 20 model of all time, you can't mention
00:19:31
Speaker
I, the phone positive has created a lane or just variance for other shoes. Like without the phone positive, we won't, we won't have most LeBron's we won't, we won't have future Barclays. We won't have so many future flight posits. Tim Duncan, like the phone positive started so, so many, so many other shoes, but it's legendary, most legendary. And it just gets disrespected too much.
00:20:00
Speaker
I wanted to shine some light on it and needed some light. But I got my viral video. Somebody has to say it, bro. It was a reason why I had a downfall of the phone positive, bro. As simple as that. They know they was dropping all these tacky colors. I guess it was cool for that moment, but can we get back to the basics now? Y'all disrespecting the phone. Okay. This is why I got mad about the phone positive.
00:20:29
Speaker
The phone posit was famous for what it was made out of. The phone posit material, it bonds to your shoe, overtime for wearing it. I thought, wow, it wasn't even made out of phone posits no more. We got Timberland phone posits and like suede phone posits. I'm like, what the hell? Like, what are we doing that night? That's all it was. I'm like, that's why it's going downhill. Elephant print phone posits. I'm like, okay.
00:20:55
Speaker
We need regular phones. I just had to shine a light on it. And if you wanted a big wave, why not bring back the galaxy?
00:21:05
Speaker
And that's how that started that I know will actually come out. No, but I'm glad they listen. I feel like they listen. I mean, it's see with that, because like I was listening to people talk about this shoe and like I remember how crazy it was. I was. Well, yeah, so I mean, I was like there, there, but I did pass by because I had to like I was on the way to work. But at the same time, it was just like people camping out for weeks, like days, weeks. I mean, and
00:21:35
Speaker
In New York, it was absolute mayhem, right? I remember seeing it on the blogs and stuff like that. I mean, we had mayhem out here too. It just was like, my mama wouldn't let me out. So it was like, eh. Plus I couldn't even afford phone pauses back then anyway. I really, I really started getting into phone pauses, like being able to afford them when I became the shoot guy. Like the phone pauses, me having little feet,
00:22:03
Speaker
And at first, they didn't come to my size. They did come to seven, but it was rare to find a seven. And after that, it was like, if I did find a seven, the market is crazy on them. And then I had to get an eight. And me being broke at that time, I'm not finna spend $250 on no damn shoes. Like, hell no. But once I got a little money, I was like, yeah, I'm bad phone positive. My first phone positive was, believe it or not,
00:22:31
Speaker
I wouldn't wear them today to be honest. The all vote phone posits. Not a vote phone posits. When Nike was doing that campaign to get everybody involved. Yeah, they was voting everything. Everything was vote. Everything was vote. And you know, everybody had to just do it. Shirts and car company. And I got them on accident to be honest. Not accident, but I was just being
00:22:58
Speaker
A twenty year old nineteen year old was like I gotta walk out with something because to be honest I was trying to get the the Pantone pack it came out around that time and uh
00:23:09
Speaker
I thought it was sold at every store and I went to every store. They was like, nah, we don't have these. What are you talking about? I'm like, really? Ah. And then I'm like, I'm walking out with something, man. And I just, I bought them VOTE phone pausing after that. I'm like, ah, man, these cools. They hurt, they hurt like hell. But then I got phone pausing crazy. Then I just, I bought a lot after that. And then recently I've been banning a lot because you found them for cheap.
00:23:33
Speaker
Yeah, for sure. And I mean, like, that's going to be that when that shoe drops, man, I don't know. I'm pretty sure all the resellers that are holding onto that 2014 pair.
00:23:45
Speaker
It's going on in 2016. Whatever. When that came out, 12. I don't know, man. I don't know. Makes me makes me feel old every time I think about it. That once that drops, man, because like I do want that shoe. It's one of those shoes where you just look at and you'd be like, Yeah, I mean, it's crazy. Like for us, it just was like, it's just one of the moments like,
00:24:13
Speaker
You just had to be there, bro. It was chaotic. And for me to get my hands on these again, or try to get my hands on them, now that I got a dope money now, oh man, for sure, I gotta do it. It's like one of the things I gotta do for the culture. I gotta do it for the culture. I gotta do it for the culture.
00:24:33
Speaker
Do you want to make your first pick of what do you think will be coming back in 2024? I mean, you don't have to go 2024. You can go. Just see if it's going to come out. Just see if it's going to come out. Cool gray nines. Cool gray nines. It's time. Yeah. It's really time. I got to get deep in the bag now.
00:25:02
Speaker
It's time because 2012, the profit rules is it has to be over 10 years. It's been over 10 years. 2012 is a very long time. That is arguably the best Jordan nine and or if not top four, top five of all the time. And the Jordan nine, that's the one that need to come out like now.
00:25:28
Speaker
I'm gonna read a little synopsis on on the cool gray. Well, cool gray. Do you need help with that? Because you know, the profit knows everything. I mean, if you want to go ahead, go ahead. A lot of people think a lot of people think the Jordan nine cool gray is an OG colorway, which it is not. The OGs came out what 94?
00:25:51
Speaker
No, this is a colorway that came out in 2002. He played an issue with the Wizards. It's technically not an OG shoe, even though Mike Deere wearing them. Some people count OG's as Mike wearing them, but it didn't come out with the original release. And then we got a retro in 2012, deservedly so. Now that is 2023. We need another one. It's time.
00:26:18
Speaker
And people consider that. Yeah, they slowly doing a cool, great, cool, great run. So like, that's what I'm saying. You can see a lot of, you can see New Balance kind of doing a great, they've been doing a great thing for that state thing, but just calm colors have been the thing lately. And I think what's not the cool gray is perfect timing. It could be a next year summer shoe. Perfect.
Promoting the Drops and Collect App
00:26:42
Speaker
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00:27:04
Speaker
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00:27:25
Speaker
All you have to do is use the link in the description of this podcast or in the link tree for this podcast. Download these apps and grow your collection by helping the podcast. That's right. Just use the links in the description and start expanding your collection today. Man.
00:27:50
Speaker
that that's what I mean. Look, that's an actual pick. Like, that's a real pick for me. For me, I'm going to go out on a limb over here. Let me see what you got. My God. No, I said I said I sent you just the description of the cool grade nines. But for me. Oh, you got the click the link, right? Yeah. Yeah. If you want to. Yeah. Yeah. I sent it to you. But I got it. For me, I'm going to talk about the flight posit threes. Mm.
00:28:19
Speaker
don't come back. I don't know if that's because listen, 2011 never got a retro, right? Like, and there was only like a cup like the black and blue colorway. And I want to say there was like a greenish colorway also that also dropped. But this shoe man when they when Mikey introduced those little like
00:28:42
Speaker
little dots. I don't even know what you want to call them. I don't even know what you could call these things. I don't even think they gave him a name. I don't think they gave him a name.
00:28:58
Speaker
But this shoe, man, I've... Oh, you know what? Every time I see a flag of faucet, I always say they look like flashlights. They definitely look like packing bubbles.
00:29:15
Speaker
They do. They do. I don't know, man. That might not get good reception. I don't know. It's mixed reviews on them. Give me the flight positive one. I thought the one was a lot more sleeker.
00:29:31
Speaker
I don't really like that. I'll be really like none of the flight. I was such a big fan of these when I was growing up that I was just like, once these guys, once these guys retroed, we in there. I mean, listen, they retro and some of these like they had a retro for a flight. Was it the flight pro or whatever? They retroed the Terminator. Yeah. I mean,
00:29:59
Speaker
I could see it or not. I like when Nike do random stuff. They don't have to just always follow like the crowd or the hype because they know what's going on. They're not stupid. So I think this look this came out in 2008. It was I want to say I don't know if that's the last time it came out, but I haven't seen the flight positive one in a minute.
00:30:19
Speaker
Like, yeah, these right here. And then I like the royal colorway. Those were not it. KG played in all three. And I know his feet was hurting. And I mean, like, that's the only reason why I mean, you could get they were in all these colorways were in East Bay and like, you just have to be like, let me get those and then they'll send it to you. Like, I remember my mom used to go from the books when we was little and then the Internet came out.
00:30:47
Speaker
All right. What's your what's your second pair? Arizona flight, the gloves. Oh, I did. I thought they go retro recently. Like, eight years, 13 was the last time they retro. That shoe is it's like they put Gary in a vault or something, man. I forgot about him. Like, don't need the retro. I remembered. Oh, my God. I remembered when they retroed the first time they retroed and
00:31:15
Speaker
I don't know if it was the glove, the first glove. I forgot which glove it was, but there was one where you can buy, they had the switchable outsides. Oh yeah. Yeah. You can buy like a pack of three or something like that when they drop. I seen that. Yeah. Oh yeah. Definitely them gloves, man. That's an all-time classic. I feel like Gary Payton was a
00:31:35
Speaker
top 10 signature athlete for Nike. And I think he's kind of forgotten at this moment. So give him some love for a little minute. Because every time I see a Gary Payton interview, he always, you know, I'm still with Nike. They need to come out with my shoes. I'm like, put them out there for you. My god, like they forgot about and I think they perfect man. I ain't gonna say today's fashion, but they just a cold shoe. That's all. That's that man. They come out with that black and white one.
00:32:02
Speaker
They gonna make a little noise. I feel it, man. It was hard. Wait, when did these get re-retroed? I'm gonna send it to you. Let me see. Yeah, send that link to me, my boy. eBay. I feel like those... Not this colorway. I only like the OG colorway. That's what I'm saying. This is the last time it came out. Man, that's till down 13. It's gotta be till down 13, 14. That was 10 years ago.
00:32:31
Speaker
That black and white colorway, man, that black and white colorway is, yeah, I need though. Yeah, I hear you, I hear you. For me, the next pair is the damn Kobe Bryant, yeah, seventh, but specifically the system
00:32:57
Speaker
where it's like it had all the length, the angle and stuff. Oh, you're talking about the, yeah. Yeah. I know what you're talking about. I like the Christmas joints that came out. No, no, no, not those. No, it's literally just got to send the links. I'm a big Kobe guy, man. I can give you a couple of Kobe's man. Like, uh, man, what's the elite system?
00:33:21
Speaker
and they came with a bunch of different inserts or something like that. I know what you're talking about. I'm a huge Kobe 8 guy. 8 was a peak for me, for Kobe, because he was on another planet around that time when they was releasing them. Kobe 6 is another good model. Really, just really, Kobe 6 to 8 was like, OK, y'all tearing it up with the color waves.
00:33:49
Speaker
If I got to release one, I feel like Nike should bring back the What The Series, man. They got to. That was a fun series. I feel like they do drop them, but people don't get the same look. People don't care about no What The PGs. They got a What The Honors. I mean, Kyrie ain't with them. Here we go. Let me give a little synopsis of this shoot, and I'm going to send it to you real quick. It's actually called the Nike Zoom Kobe 7 Supreme 10, or X. I think it's Supreme X.
00:34:17
Speaker
It gives Kobe Bryant's seventh signature shoe a color scheme of black, white, and bell sole released in December 2011 and designed by Eric Avar. Sneakers customizable based on one style of play. That attack fast midsole insert possesses Nike's zoom air in the forefoot and heel while the attack strong option is compromised of cushion
00:34:41
Speaker
and does not contain air. The shoes upper displays the swoosh in silver and contains a class polyurethane outer shell with with a pattern inspired by three predators, the leopard, great shark and of course, the black mamba. Them leopards was hard. I have the leopards. I just saw they're going crazy. I tried to buy them on eBay.
00:35:04
Speaker
It's as high as ever. Yeah, that was tough. Yeah, these are tough. I love these. Them lepers was so hard. Yeah, that was crazy. Yeah. I think these will come out again because of the whole Kobe-Hike thing.
Kobe Sneakers and Limited Availability
00:35:20
Speaker
Yeah, for sure. I just feel like...
00:35:24
Speaker
Can y'all make the Kobe's highly available though? Like, it's kind of getting annoying at this point. Yeah, we got to call Vanessa. Yeah, I like Vanessa. If you ever come across this video, like, make the Kobe's highly accessible. Like, it's getting ridiculous. Like, don't get me wrong. RPGG, I get it. Oh, these are the ones you were talking about. My bad, my bad. These are the ones you're talking about. The year of the dragons. And you said Christmas colorway. It's a...
00:35:55
Speaker
I like those. I like those. And they got another one. It's the purple, the purple cheetah joints too. Yeah. Them hard. I love these. Yeah. The trackers too. I mean, my favorite, one of my favorite Kobe sevens is the invisibility cloak.
00:36:09
Speaker
Oh my God, I did a video on them, bro. I did, oh my God, you found my Kobe video. Cause I was shining, actually went viral on both. And I just, you know, you know, kids don't know no better. Like I told you, I'm a Kobe guy. Like I was like, man, Kobe, I'm like, y'all only know Grinches. And somebody said the Grinches was top five. I'll say, yeah, I think the Grinches are top five, but I'm like, this is the only one y'all know though. Like it's way more Kobe's than way more Kobe. Cause y'all remember we come from that.
00:36:38
Speaker
they was releasing Kobe's like crazy, but they was like, and the kids was disrespecting them to the point like Kobe's was sitting. I said, no, the general release Laker colorways are sitting. Every time they dropped the black history month, all those gold was flying off the show, bro. Every time you can keep naming the finals scoring title. It's out of the off the show, bro.
00:37:02
Speaker
all them Lakers colorways of just black and white regularly, yeah, they gonna sit. But that's the only ones y'all remember or know, or y'all seen, but I had to shine a light on Kobe. I'm like, nah, y'all trucking. Kobe, Kobe had them boys, yeah, them white. Oh, man, that was hard to me. That was so hard to me. Boy, them on Christmas, man, I'm never gonna forget them ones hard. Yeah, I just had to shine a light on Kobe, man. Visibility clips, oh my God.
00:37:30
Speaker
To this day, I've never seen a shoe like that. That was hard. And for some reason, I really love the Kobe 8. The Kobe 8 is beautiful, bro. No, but it's the Mercurial Kobe 8. Yeah. You got to fan my video, bro. I was so in love with all the Kobe's, bro.
00:37:50
Speaker
I think my favorite one there, man, that Kobe ate, what does, man, them was, oh, man, I don't do anything. I sell my nut sacks for those. I'm not going to. That's the clip. That's definitely the clip. That's the social clip right here. I need those, bro. I need those, man. Them was so tough, bro.
00:38:11
Speaker
It was so tough. Nah, yeah. That's such a, such a, I mean, look, Kobe, Kobe's were definitely like, you could tell he was part of the process of making these damn shoes. Kobe was really involved in this shoe. Like our B4 breakdown. Like the man was going up there like, Hey.
00:38:28
Speaker
If they don't have this, I don't want it. I feel like he represented his shoe very well. I don't really see that with other athletes or them really putting like a big input in their shoe. Kobe NaN was like huge because it was like, for us Kobe family was hurt. We didn't get to see our favorite player play. And then the whole Kobe NaN being a high top was for us Achilles.
00:38:49
Speaker
If you look at the lines, that's supposed to be in the stitches since how they stitched up his achilles or his soils, whatever surgery or whatever the case may be. And like, it had a real story behind it. Like the Kobe now was it was special, even though he never wore him. It's just like, I love that he really had an input on that. Oh, man. Kobe, I can go on for days with Kobe. We hear, we hear. I love Kobe's man. Like the disrespect, that's the disrespect overall my man's get. It's like,
00:39:19
Speaker
It's crazy. So as Kobe stands, we gotta, we gotta, we, we gonna defend them to the end of town. I'm telling you now.
Return of College Blue 17s
00:39:27
Speaker
What's your last, what's your last, uh, profit call? I'm a last profit. Uh, bring something back past the Jordan 15, anything, but the one I have to pick, it has to be the ginger 16. Oh, no, I don't mean no damn ginger 16. I got two. Okay. You can give me, I'll give you another. The college blue seventeens or the wizards.
00:39:49
Speaker
college blue 17s. I mean, listen, and that's, is that the high or is that the mid or the low? The high they come out with lows next year, which is odd to me. And it was like, okay, can we get some highs? Like I learned that y'all coming out with the lightness in my heart. I'm not really a big fan of the UNC, but the college blue 17 is like, come on. Like I look, I'm willing to pay $300 plus for those. Like,
00:40:15
Speaker
This is definitely somebody's, uh, I forgot who's my first kicks. Oh, I think it's, uh, Ma Dudes, Ma Dudes, my first kicks, uh, the 2002 Air Jordan 17, OG college blue as a 17th signature model from Air Jordan, the Air Jordan 17 college blue sneaker is the first colorway released in February of 2002. The performance basketball sneaker features a white leather upper with TPU college blue accents, reinforcing the toe guard and an arch.
00:40:44
Speaker
A mid-foot wraparound cover provides a customizable fit, while a foam-backed mid-top lycra collar enhances comfort. A TPU heel counter with a Jumpman logo and a full-length shank plate with a blow mow. They put a hella technology in that sheet. Max Air UNA reinforces the design, and it came in a goddamn suitcase.
00:41:13
Speaker
I will say this, and a lot of people don't forget that was the first Jordan to be $200. Man, that didn't get retro today with a suitcase. Jesus Christ, prepare for the worst. I'm expecting $350. I'm not gonna lie. It's gotta be close to $400. It's gotta be close to $400. Can I make one more request? Of course, man. You can do whatever you want. Make the Jordan 10 great again. The Jordan 10. Bro.
00:41:41
Speaker
Listen, you know what's funny? All right. So I'm bringing you back. I'm bringing it back to that video that Tay put out about him going to the about I'm probably I'm going to try to get him on an episode because I would like to know his his story and why he has so many Jordans and like to that point. But like at the same time, he did pull out the red, red and white tens. And I was like, and you also pulled them out, too. And I was like, man, these are not good. Oh, you don't like them?
00:42:08
Speaker
You talking about the red steel joints? Yeah, I've never liked those, man. There's a few Jordan 10s I like. Few. I'm gonna say this.
00:42:20
Speaker
Like the Bobcat colorway, when that first drop, I was like, do you hate them? I like the Bobcat colorway, but I'm choosing the red steels over there. But the Bobcat colorway was hard because it was different for the Jordan 10. You don't really see that many Jordan 10s with a icy soul. And that colorway was dope too. I do like the Bobcat 10s a lot. But do I put them on...
00:42:45
Speaker
rest deals, maybe not. Maybe, maybe because I'm being a little nostalgic, but shit, at this point, the Bobcats, almost time for the retro. They came out 2014, like, or the beef and broccoli, beef and broccoli is definitely up there. My thing is with the Jordan team, like I said, like,
00:43:04
Speaker
I like to talk to young sneakerheads, people that's up and coming. And when I hear them say like the Jordan seven is in the Jordan 10 is Mexican or whatever, Puerto Rican mics, it drives me crazy. And it was like, are we really doing this y
Defending Jordan 7s and 10s
00:43:22
Speaker
'all? Like, and they be serious, we don't want to walk them sevens. They I'm like, we really got to this point that is y'all really considering them Puerto Rican and Mexican mics.
00:43:34
Speaker
Did somebody, somebody said they were Miguel's. I hear it all in the comments and I'm like, I'm in shock. And I'm like, we really doing this. Like I can't believe we in this era, like the Jordan team and the Jordan seven is getting this.
00:43:50
Speaker
much disrespect. Like I know I clown them a lot because I say the Jordan 10. I mean, the Jordan seven is the out of all the Jordans he got or silhouettes. They have the worst colorways like the SAS OGs. Okay. For the people that are watching.
00:44:06
Speaker
Besides the OGs and re-releases from the 2000s, name me a Jordan 7 Pass 2014 that we all can agree on that we got. You know what? These is fire. It's none. Flex listening to this like. You're about to be like, come on, boy, man. But you're going to throw down some bullshit. Throw a few roots. I got the trophy roots. And know everybody that there was mixed reviews.
00:44:36
Speaker
the trophy rolls was cool, but it was still like, okay. He loves them. He loves those Ben sevens, man.
00:44:48
Speaker
I made a video talk about the Biz 7s. I said, bro, I don't care how much quality them shits are ugly. They be trying to like, I'm all for quality. I'm a big quality guy too. And I'm just like telling them when the Bins came out, when I seen them in what, 2010 or whatever, they kind of said these shits are ugly.
00:45:08
Speaker
You know, it was all the quality. It comes with a premium box and, and, uh, uh, in souls. I'm like, okay, this shit still is like freaky. I'll be, you pay for, I love, I love when you do your, your rollback videos. Cause when, cause people really, really, really, really thought that the three lab, what is it? Three lab fives, they thought they had some exclusive joints when there was,
00:45:48
Speaker
I'm back. I'm back. That whole collab. I remember when you were dropping them. Yep.
00:45:58
Speaker
Do you hear me? When we say I was saying, I was saying when those three left fives drop those, like when people were rolling, walking around the streets with them bright red for the fours or the threes, the three. Oh yeah. No, I got the fours. They cool. That was, I ain't gonna lie. I made the worst trade in history when I did those.
00:46:19
Speaker
but it wasn't even the worst. It was them fives and them. Bro, did you see the Jordan one? I didn't even know those are part of it. I was like, what? I was doing my research for the video because I knew about the fives and the threes. I'm like, okay. I remember the ones, but I didn't, I didn't think they was like part of the thing. I'm like,
00:46:43
Speaker
When the hell these? Like, I remember coming out, but I didn't know that was part of the laugh series. It was just horrible, bro. Like, Jordan Brennan did an answer for that. That was, that was terrible, bro. That was, that was a tough time, man. And then, I'm gonna give you a reel. The threes was solid. It was real solid. The three M-boats? That three M-boat. It's like you win a little.
00:47:03
Speaker
Yeah, I'm a sucker for 3M, right? So I have, I have the, the raging bull pack that they did for SBs. So they did the raging bull pack, but they did it for SBs, right? So like I had the low and the high and the high is the 3M because they, they were, the raging bull pack had that 3M all five, that five, that was all 3M.
00:47:20
Speaker
so they did a dunk high of it and it was like yeah I still have that same like you see how that that the uh the the three lab fives threes would like crumble and the creases and stuff like that and i like that's happening to those dunks so yeah i can't i can't do it man i was like i got love for three of them but it's like man bro that was
00:47:41
Speaker
It's like wearing aluminum foil, bro. I can't, I spent all this money on his shoe, I need to least get old minimums. Yeah, those retail prices were crazy. 15, 20, where's if I they gonna be looking like this, like? That was like 250, right? And then, hold on, my boy. That pause, people, I'm gonna shut my phone up.
00:48:08
Speaker
Don't interview my bad. OK, my apologies. No, you got people on the way. I'm like, no, don't come yet. I got interviewed. The the the retail for the three lab five series was like it was like it was like two hundred two hundred two fifty. The quality was just.
00:48:34
Speaker
They could've came up with something different with those, bro. I ain't gonna hold you. I think the threes was the fire colorway. It's just like, bro, I've literally seen people wear them one time and they ball up like this. They was unwearable, bro. They should've went back in the drawing board for those, man. And the fours was just... I think they was the coolest one to me because
00:48:59
Speaker
I was not a fan. They give you say they give you those little the tiny. It was like the string laces. It wasn't even like a regular. Yeah. Yeah. They had like it was really like a leather lace or something. It was kind of like a wax lace little bit. And that was the least of the problems for me. I think.
00:49:17
Speaker
they was the best ones to me because i feel like it was more first and you can wear i'm like i want to force a lot and they still look new but other than that it still wasn't like looking back at it now i we can all admit we the bottle shoes like
00:49:31
Speaker
I think H2L. Like I told you, I made the worst trade in history. It's gotta be at least top tier. Like, okay, you gotta remember this all red arrow. We was eating that shit up. Like, I'm a victim. I'm a victim, bro. I'm a victim. I ain't gonna lie. And then, in Jordan 1s, like I always bought Jordan 1s, but I'ma be real with you. To this day, I don't like the first Shatterback boy. Like, I don't. And I had him.
00:49:59
Speaker
And I had the first shot of that board. And I was like, and people got to remember, the market for those wasn't that how it came out. It was like 250, 260 ish. So I'm like, and right now they were 17, $2,000. You could still go into the store and get them two weeks after they dropped. I got them. I bought them for my man's for retail and I was going to resell them. I'm like,
00:50:26
Speaker
I'm like, nah, I ain't gonna lie, but I can make a little money. It ain't nothing, so. And I went to Casama shop. I was like, you know, I'm going to my nearby Casama shop. And he had them all ready for us. I'm like, okay, I like those.
00:50:41
Speaker
Hey, can I make a trade? He was like, sure. Both of us didn't see the vision that the Jordan 1 was going to boom up. If I knew the Jordan 1 was going to boom like it was, I would have kept the shoe, but it was like, we was like, okay, yeah, that's a fair trade. At that time, I won that trade because that shoe was going for like 320. I'm like, okay, yeah, I won that trade for go home happy. Warm next day, I'm like, oh yeah, these fire.
00:51:05
Speaker
And fast forward a couple of years later, Shaq backboards 1200. I said, oh, God. To this day, that shit stings every time. Every time. I was a worst trade in history. I've done a bunch of trades and I have one that's bad. But let me do my third shoe and then I'll tell you the story.
00:51:30
Speaker
So this is just like a wish list right here, because I wasn't able to get these when these drop. But in 2015, Packer Shoes collaborated with Rayquan and Diodora to drop the purple tape Diodora's. And I need them joints to come back. You guys see the length of those. You say Packer's coloring?
00:51:54
Speaker
No, no, no. Packer shoes is the brand. No, it's a purple shoe, purple tape, man. Let me give you a little background right here. Wu-Tang Clan rapper, Weikon teamed up with New Jersey's sneaker boutique, Packer Shoes.
00:52:15
Speaker
an Italian brand, but his version of the iconic N9000 Silhouette, paying tribute to the purple tinted cassette tapes of Rayquan's 1995 solo debut. The shoe features purple suede and mesh on the upper with a translucent purple gum outsole underfoot constructed in Italy. The retro runner also boasts an embroidered 1995 on the heel, a parental advisory label inspired
00:52:43
Speaker
tongue tag when the album's track list printed on the footbed. Nah, them fire, them fire. I ain't gonna lie, them fire. First time seeing them, uh. But that's why I like TikTok, man. Like, everybody think I know everything, huh, though? I never go in there knowing everything. I've never seen that shit in my life. But it lets me, like, when I see y'all post stuff like that, like, y'all put me on SBs. Like, I told y'all be out the loop with SBs. Like, I know a lot of SBs. Like, I know a lot, a lot about SBs, but it's just like,
00:53:12
Speaker
I'll be seeing colorways. I'm like, okay, I didn't know that exists. Okay, y'all be giving me more backstories on it. I thought it'd just be like a colorway. That's why I love TikTok. That's the versatility. I ain't gonna lie, one of my favorites. I think Morgan might be one of my favorites because I ain't gonna lie, he turned me into a hype piece when he came to New Palace.
00:53:33
Speaker
I'm pushing my eBay card. I'm like, okay, no, it's fire. I'm not gonna get it. His head's already big enough, man. Yeah, that's funny because like he
00:53:49
Speaker
And he he he tells me how he's able to get these sneakers and I understand how he's able to get them. I'm not working. Why are you checking it back? It's not even that. So so I mean, like, I'm pretty sure you talked about it before or like, yeah, he definitely talks about it. But if you he doesn't drink.
00:54:08
Speaker
So all his money that like the money I'll be spending on drinking goes to sneakers versus him. So he's able to get a couple of kids. I get all those sneakers too. I don't drink smoke. I've never done drugs. I don't live a day in my life. Yeah, I think I'm going to be 30. I've never been drunk before. Like I'm damn serious. I literally like I always I always tell the shorties like I'm not rich. I'm hood rich.
00:54:38
Speaker
But I'm good at financial stability. I'm really big on that. Because I run a business. I've been running a business for 11 years. Chicago messes me hard. And they need Chicago just really across the world.
Financial Responsibility in Sneaker Collecting
00:54:49
Speaker
I've been doing shoes for a very long time. They created different avenues for me to make money.
00:54:54
Speaker
So, and I can, I can, I can understand like literally like my money goes to like shoes and stuff I like, you know, and which is majority shoes to be honest. No, yeah, I get that. Uh, like it's all about, I mean, like I've, I've posted this on Twitter before. It's just like, whatever, whatever, whatever you find, used to find your happiness, like you shouldn't be like, you know, restricting yourself if you have to, just because you think
00:55:20
Speaker
Oh, if I don't get these, then, you know, how can I phrase this? Because, like, the biggest thing that, like, Squint posted a video. Squint posted a video saying that, like, one thing about sneaker heads, it doesn't matter if we owe a bill or owe money, we still gonna get the shoe when it comes out. And I've never been that way. Like, I will sell sneakers to pay bills if I have to. Like, but I feel like I do both, like,
00:55:47
Speaker
All business owners and entrepreneurs know that things can be slow at times. I got literally over 300 plus shoes in here. And I'll be like, you know what?
00:55:58
Speaker
This month I can sell two, three pair of shoes to get over the hump. I'm trying to get over, for sure. It didn't buy me some more shoes. But the difference is like, my thing, the one thing that I think gets mis-conceptualized when we do content creating or like, we look like we have a ton of sneakers, right? But it's not about always copying. My thing, my bad. My thing is like, I don't care about being the most current with sneakers. I don't need to.
00:56:26
Speaker
I think the majority of my collection has to be older stuff. Do I buy new stuff? Yeah, I bought a couple new things this year, but...
00:56:35
Speaker
I don't care about what come out tomorrow. I've always been OG collected. It ain't just Jordans. I just like vintage stuff. I'm a starter jacket collector. I don't know if you see this. I got a nice jersey collection, starter jacket collection. I collect vintage stuff. I don't care about this stuff like that.
00:56:57
Speaker
But I think it's just like what is shown on the internet is that a lot of these content creators are just like, I gotta get the next shoe before it
Personal Connection vs. Hype in Sneaker Choices
00:57:05
Speaker
comes out. It's a competition thing who can post it first and say you got it. You know what I mean? Like that's why I don't make that type of content because it seemed like it's a race to who can post this first and say I got it first.
00:57:17
Speaker
I care less about that shit. I ain't going to let you. Yeah, me too. And I felt like I posted that on Twitter. Just like my idea of collecting sneakers or buying sneakers isn't about what's hot or like whatever everybody thinks is hyped is more about if does this shoe coming out has a personal connection to me? Because if it does, then I'm going to appreciate it more. Right. And it's in my collection to sum it up.
00:57:42
Speaker
Do you like this shoe for real? I did a video not too long ago. I did a video saying, y'all don't like these shoes for real. Meaning, I said, bro, they never stop making Roshi runs. Y'all can go buy them now. Oh, everybody else ain't wearing them. That's why you don't want to buy them. They never stop making hirachis. They still don't make hirachis. Y'all don't like that shoe for real. But I'm like, I'm big on buying what you like.
00:58:10
Speaker
I never cared about, I love 20s, I don't care what people say, I'm going to buy Jordan 20s because I like them. It's not always a trend, it was never a trend to wear Jordan 20s. It was never a trend. It was never a trend, I liked the show though. People get too caught up in the band, like what's hot, and I understand dunk hype and stuff like that.
00:58:32
Speaker
I never really cared for what's up, you know? No, I mean, I get that. I enjoy dunks. I think they're just comfortable. They're comfortable in the end. Like, I, my biggest thing is like, I don't want to be outside with somebody else wearing the same damn sneakers. No, and I'm really big on that. Like, I think I get that from my cousins because I never like going to school. Like say ever, Jordan came out Saturday and everybody wearing it on Monday.
00:58:58
Speaker
I never would wear it. Don't get me wrong, I'll cop it. I'll wait till everybody beat theirs up and then bring them out later. And then everybody, I bring them out, and say if it came out in December, I would bring mines out at the end of June, last day of school or something like that. They'd be, man, brand new, everybody's beat up. I was always like that.
00:59:22
Speaker
Before we end this episode, let me tell you about my bad trade so that we both share bad trade on this episode. So I go to Sneaker Con, I think it's the first Sneaker Con in New York City, one of those, right? So I go with my boy and I'm carrying, I bought, you know, there's a moment in our lives, right, where we just buy a shoe because we don't think we're gonna get another chance at them, right?
00:59:51
Speaker
I'm not, it was my first time ever seeing a six and it was a six low. And I was like, you know what? I won. I won. I won the Nike, Nike town here. You had to win the chance to buy the sneakers at Nike town. So like, so you, you, you submit for your, your Twitter, your whatever. And then they'll be like, Oh, you want, you got, you're able to cop. So I'm like, Oh snap.
01:00:16
Speaker
I can get these. I might as well. Right. So I go and it's the Olympic six lows and Olympic six lows. I rock them one time and I was like, these got to go. So I go to I go to I go to.
01:00:36
Speaker
to the Sneaker Con. I think it's the first Sneaker Con in New York City. Go there. I win my boy, my boy Chris. Shout out Chris. He's an avid listener. And so like, he, I'm like, yo, man, I'm bringing these two pairs. So I bring, I bring the Olympic six lows and the Katie's five Christmas with me. So
01:00:57
Speaker
I'm telling you i was in this like weird state of just buying sneakers that i thought i would like and i did not like almost there in my closet so i had i had katie five all-star i had katie. Five christmas and i had the joker is falling into the high.
01:01:19
Speaker
We all got our moments. I ain't going to lie. I hated the KD fat. I never wore them. I never wore them. I just bought them because I thought like, okay, if I caught, like I was trying to do the whole, oh, I just get out of wait for these to go up and I'll sell them and make some money. It never worked for me. So like I was just holding on to it. And then so I got to like a niche for that. I ain't gonna lie. I just know what's going to be hot and what people ain't going to buy.
01:01:45
Speaker
Listen, I think I have a better understanding of it now, but when I was doing this, I was literally like, I was, this is like, this is like, this is, it got me out of what Squint was talking about of like, I was, this, I was working retail jobs.
01:01:59
Speaker
Right so these are just the last little hundred dollars i have and i'm like let me just try to flip and they were just in my closet. Right so i'm just like man i'm just making mistakes left or right so i have four pairs of sneakers i like i have there all their that the kd's and the joker threes were size fourteen and i'm a size thirteen so i bought them one size up cuz i knew.
01:02:20
Speaker
I'm not gonna wear them if they don't have my size. So I was like, whatever, blah, blah, blah. Anyway, so I take the Christmas KDs with me and the Olympic sixes lows with me to sneaker con. I'm walking around and I'm just like,
01:02:35
Speaker
I'm just beat. Like this is towards the end. I'm like, I'm trying to make a trade for the entire time I was there to see if I could get rid of these. And so some dude pulls up to me and I see he has the LeBron box and I was just like, I do like LeBron nine. So whatever he shows me the LeBron nines get LeBron nines Hornet colorways. And I'm like, all right, let's do this. So I just did a straight up trade.
01:03:03
Speaker
for the LeBron nine Hornet colorway for my Jordan sixes lows. I took the L because I lost money. I lost, I lost like about 60 bucks in that trade or something like that. Because I think retail retail on the, the sixes were, I want to say, let me see, it's gotta be like one, but the Katie
01:03:32
Speaker
No, the Olympic sixes. Oh, Olympic sixes. Olympic. The fact that you didn't buy Olympics, I could have told you off the real six loads. You ain't got no money for them. But I've never seen a six load ever sell out out there in my life. Like ever. Only one I could say to people that actually cared about was the Crohn's.
01:03:54
Speaker
And them, like, OG collectors, other than that, 6Lo. I own one 6Lo, and that's the Seahawks. I actually like that shoot. Other than that, every Jordan Lo, except 2s and 11s, can go to hell. I can't even find a picture of the Lo's.
01:04:18
Speaker
No, those are not it either. They only just have regular highs or whatever. Oh, here we go. Here's one. Somebody selling them right now for $68 on a fake site because they're not even real. I want to say, let me see, how much was retail for the highs? 160 retail for the highs.
01:04:44
Speaker
Well, another regular 40. Yeah, something like that. Imagine it costs more, but like 180. Let's go. So yeah, I made that trade. I went home with the LeBron nine. I still have the LeBron nines now. Jesus Christ. No, that ain't going nowhere. I'll tell you that. Today's market. No way.
01:05:06
Speaker
So man, I love it. So so I basically made $30 profit because retail for LeBron for the nines were 170. And 170 back there. Yeah. 170 back there. Then they like 210. But shit, they be sitting so much you could find LeBron for like 110. Yeah. But man, that
01:05:31
Speaker
It's just wild. After that, I was just like, I'm not buying sneakers to sell anymore. I'm done. For me, my sneaker resale stories have been pretty good. Like I mentioned in my Yeezy story, do I ever give up the Yeezy story? What happened?
01:05:51
Speaker
Beat a nigga. Oh, no, we saving that we saving that for part two. We saving that for two. That's that's part two. We do any resale stories. No, man. Part two, like an actual part two. This is a profit. This is the profit. This is the profit. This is the profit. Crazy man.
01:06:11
Speaker
I've always pretty much known the market. I've always been a geek because I've been shopping sneakers forever. So I kind of know what was always high and where I can get to. And I really got no horror stories that I could say like, Oh man.
01:06:27
Speaker
I should never got that shoe. Maybe a couple Jordan ones, but I always kind of buy shoes for like personals first. Like it's kind of like a personal, if it's worth a lot, then I'm willing to sell it and I'm not going to lie. Like I always say this.
01:06:44
Speaker
If I buy a shoe and you're willing to give me four times, three times the amount, you can have it. I'm gonna keep it real with you, man. Cause I already got 300 plus shoes, that's dumb. That's cool, but it's like, it's not that serious to me. You want to give me 694?
01:07:02
Speaker
Okay. That's what happened with me with the, uh, I had the fear fives and I just never wore them. And I just think it was tough. I know. I didn't, I didn't, I don't know why. I never, I never felt like I wanted to wear them. Like I can't explain it. Yeah. I can't explain it. My top T and R O G color. That was tough.
01:07:27
Speaker
Oh, you're tweaking, man. And so I sold them for like $600. OK, OK, OK. That was a dub, though. That was a dub. I should say, man, that was tough. And that was limited, too, because remember the only ones that was general was the fours and the threes. The fours and the threes, yeah. And the fives came out. That was like a house of hoops and shit like that. Yeah. I won the raffle for that. It was wild. I won the raffle. See, I didn't get none, because they sold out so quick down here.
01:07:57
Speaker
Both the threes and the fours, I knew I wasn't getting the five. Let me just say, I'm not a huge Jordan friend. I appreciate them. You guys speak up. I mean, yeah, but my first Jordan was a 15. I was let down from the jump on my first Jordan. You got the nerve to be talking about that nigga that was a 16.
01:08:23
Speaker
So I don't even want, I don't even want the 15 back. Like I, it was just like, Oh, you don't want the 15 back. I mean, but I'll do a bread colorway just to have, but I don't think it's going to sell out on, on the show. It's just going to have, I'll have it. I mean, I'll tell you this. They got the retro 2017. They came out with all the, I just feel like they need to come out with the East Bay packs again. But in that they came out with all the OGs, they came out all up. So they're good.
01:08:51
Speaker
I mean, so I think like my experience with Jordans, it's not been like my first, like what took me out of Coppin, what took me out of Coppin SBs for a while was the Fire Red 3s. I was like, Fire Red 3s? All right, now I got to get dreadful. Have you bought any recent Jordans of late? Like, I mean, I'm on Mini Air 3s.
01:09:14
Speaker
I got, I mean, but you talk about like what colorway is like just, just anything in the last year now. I got the twos. I got the twos. I got the twos. I got the two. I got the Chicago twos when they drop into something. I was gonna say, God damn, are you slacking like that? Um, now, you know, I'm, I'm always, I'm a Jordan guy first, but I just like older releases, like,
01:09:39
Speaker
some goddamn Dennis Robbins or something like that. But ain't nobody gonna care about that, but I just feel like show love to everything. You know who's gonna care about that?
Vintage vs. Modern Sneaker Preferences
01:09:51
Speaker
Uncle Schooler. He do now. I ain't going to lie. Me and him, he messaged each other. You need to probably get him on the show, bro. He is a vintage guy. Me and him got the same taste, but I told him, not bump heads, but we had a disagreement and a message. I said, oh gee, man, you got to like shoes past the 2000s. I was like, bro,
01:10:15
Speaker
He's like, man, I ain't like Katie's and LeBron's and stuff like that. I said, I'm like, come on. I'm like, man, that was tough. You're tripping, bro. Like, Katie Kobe's like, nah, I just don't like none of this stuff. And I'm like, nah. I'm like, OG, you got to.
01:10:29
Speaker
You gotta get out the 90s, bro. Like, it's just more shoes than that, bro. You know he's a 90. He's one of the 90s. He's a 90s guy, bro. He won't look at nothing past the 90s. I said, bro, like, it is good shoes. Like, he was just discredited Kobe and LeBron and him. Like, I said, nah, you're a champion, bro.
01:10:54
Speaker
My,
Experiences with Different Sneaker Brands
01:10:55
Speaker
so like, I mean, I don't, I don't think there's a lot of sneakerheads like me, but I definitely think I align more with Morgan. Like me and Morgan would be like, yo, this is hot. Like we will definitely talk about this.
01:11:07
Speaker
I'm gonna keep it real, I've always been like a Nike, Adidas, Reebok guy. That's really, I stay in that. Cause this is my love for basketball. And not just in basketball shoes, but y'all educate me more on the Diodoras and the New Balance and the ASICS and shit like that. That make me explore. And I got this all in my eBay card. I'm like, man, I'm fire, man. What was that when these came? I'm like, I really be typing this in.
01:11:34
Speaker
stuff like that. More basketball related, but when it's exploring, that's not like Morgan be putting me on the tennis shoes. I didn't even know it was that many tennis. I didn't even know what the hell a kiff was. I'm not going to even lie to you, but Morgan be putting me on. Them
Diverse Content for Diverse Tastes
01:11:52
Speaker
kiff shoes was fire.
01:11:57
Speaker
We all got a different taste. We're not supposed to like everything. I'm pretty sure y'all watch my videos and be like, you like this? No, I mean, listen, I think I won't. This is why I tailor my videos this way or like I tailor my conversations this way is like.
01:12:16
Speaker
I'ma talk about what I like so that I can hear you talk about what you like. And then we both can share the stories that makes us like these shoes. But I'm never gonna be like, man, them joints is ugly to you too? Like, you know, like, like, like, like, that's what I think a lot of people need to understand when it comes to this is that
01:12:36
Speaker
You shouldn't be trying to convince somebody, right? When I make content, I just know, I try to make it suitable for everybody. I know everybody ain't gonna like it and everybody got a crowd that's gonna like it and everybody ain't gonna like it. So I try to make it fit for everybody. And I
High Cost of Sneaker Collecting
01:12:52
Speaker
think that's how it should be. We gonna have disagreements, bro.
01:12:56
Speaker
It's kicks, bro. I know people ain't gon' like half the shit I like. I ain't gon' like half the shit they like. Like, I told y'all, I like to listen. Like, who my SB guy I like to listen to?
01:13:08
Speaker
You talk about the SBs. What's my word? SB Freak. He a crazy SB guy. What's a frozen? He like, I didn't know all these SBs exist. I like to listen to the SB stories. I'm like, oh, I didn't know that. Oh, they had a Star Wars colorway. So I didn't know that. I didn't know that. So what else? See, my thing is just like, I don't have all the SBs. Like SB Freak has all the SBs. You don't got to though.
01:13:37
Speaker
Nothing wrong, I do have majority of stuff I talk about, but at the same time, I don't. When I talk about Nike football and shit, I'm missing so many classic silhouettes. That means I don't know about them shit. We know this, we're looking. When it comes to our hobby, we all love sneakers. That's what we all agree on. What we know deep down is that it's shit expensive. I don't care, this is expensive as habit. The hobby, literally, man.
01:14:06
Speaker
And for them, I like to see this in the frozen when he say, oh, man, I got these what the duck said, fucking $1,000. Like, look at the price now. Like, wow, man. It is a while. I mean, so what the squinted that video recently where he was like he posted like, oh, I had a chance to buy these at this and I like I don't like doing that. I don't like like.
01:14:34
Speaker
Like, what's it called? It's like, I don't know if it's like ego. It's a little I beasties. Yeah, like like. I'll tell Squirmy for when I think of the council. I said, Squirmy, but Squirmy, that's why I love it. He can't type, he don't care. I love it, though, because I can admit I got so many shoes on.
01:14:54
Speaker
The Joy and Run rookie of the year has been hurting me since, man. I remember that shoe was $50. Couldn't get a soul to buy that shoe. I look at it now, $800. I definitely regret it. So many. We all got our moments, man. We all, I'll show you this. Every sneaker here got they hype these moments. That's facts. There's tons of facts. If I go back in time,
01:15:15
Speaker
If I was going to start on the SB, the one that started off for me that made me seem like my first SB was the Tiffany's. When the Tiffany's came out, that was so much hype. I had them in 2000, what, seven, six, whatever the date was. It was crazy hype. And I was like, damn, I like this shoe. I do like it. But did I want to spend 300 on it? What's the price on them now? Like $2,000, $3,000.
01:15:41
Speaker
And another one, that one that hurts me to this day. Them Kanye Babsters? Oh yeah. Them used to be sitting on eBay three, $400 back in the day. Look at them now, they're dating like 6K. Like, come on man, I got one more Ray Allen 13. That's one of my grills. I was broke at that time. Well, that shit like $2,000 now. I remember it was sitting on the East Bay site all day.
01:16:07
Speaker
I'm like, oh, and I'm a crazy Ray Allen fan. I said, I ain't got no money, though. Over the years, it's just kind of just been $4,500, $500, $600,000. That's $2,000, $3,000. You're like, let me go sell some of these packs real quick. No, for real, though. That's a couple, man. I can definitely show. I mean, I've literally had shoes in my hand.
01:16:31
Speaker
that I consider them grails now, but I'm so like, I didn't have the money back then. I had like $20 in my hand. Exactly, but look, that's another shoe. What's the Spider-Man joints? The origins, bro. I literally, people forgot them set. Bro, I literally had them in my hand. I was at DTLR and I was like, no, they got the Chicago's in 2015. I don't want these. Oh, they got $100 now. I said, goddamn, I should have bought that damn shoe.
01:17:01
Speaker
I've done it plenty of times, bro. Plenty of time. But I just, you know, I just think like, that's just how it rolls, man. Like, if you don't have the money, you don't have the money, it's fine. Bro, it's okay. Like I said, like, I got homies that ain't got no shoes, but they some sneaker hands, bro. Like, talk, talk that talk like us, bro. Like, he wear Vans all day, bro. Like, we all know this is expensive happen, bro. Like, everybody ain't
01:17:31
Speaker
I've just been doing this for 17 years, man. That's why I got
Connecting on Social Media
01:17:35
Speaker
so many shoes, man. But let everybody know where they can find you, man. Y'all know y'all good family, man. Dre the shoe guy, YouTube, Twitch, TikTok, Instagram, all the same name, literally.
01:17:52
Speaker
Yes, sir. You know where to find me. I am who is hostile social media. Follow the podcast on my first kicks pod. Follow the tick tock and the YouTube at my first kicks. This is going to be on there. And you know, we say each week where your kicks. Peace, sir.